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Darling.

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Rama.

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You were calling for your mother.

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What?

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You were saying, "Mom, Mom."

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Don't be ridiculous.

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Wait, please.

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They are young.

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They are heroes with no imagination.

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They shave my head carefully
till they're done.

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They believe it's their duty
to shave the women's heads well.

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Are you ashamed for them, my love?

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No.

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You are dead.

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I'm far too busy suffering.

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Night falls.

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All I hear is the sound of scissors
cutting my hair.

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It slightly eases the pain of your death.

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Oh the pain!

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The pain in my heart...
it's unbelievable.

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All around,
they're singing the Marseillaise.

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My father's drug store is closed
because of the disgrace.

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I am alone.

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Some of them laugh.

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At night, I return home.

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This week's class will focus
on the work of Marguerite Duras.

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More precisely,

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how the author
uses the power of her narrative

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to sublimate reality.

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The images you have just seen...

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I chose to link their direct violence

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and full on historic significance,
to the shaved-headed woman that Duras

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creates in Hiroshima, my love,

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to demonstrate how the author
managed to transform the shock

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and feeling of revolt
in the face of these acts,

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which were commonplace
at the end of the war,

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into an almost lyrical song.

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Listening to the text,

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the author's intention is crystal clear.

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This woman is humiliated,

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distraught,

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branded like a prisoner,

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all be it temporarily
as hair does grow back,

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but branded forever on her memory

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and that of those around her.

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This woman, an object of shame,

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becomes, thanks to the author's words,

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not only a heroine

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but a human being in a state of grace.

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Hello.

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- Hello, Mrs. Fall.
- Hello, Adrien.

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- How are you?
- I'm OK.

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Hi.

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Hi, Tenning.

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You OK?

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I'd better check on the food.

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I'll come with you.

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Here's your medication, Mom.

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Don't worry, Mom, it's nothing.

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I'm really enjoying this.

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- So I see.
- Bravo.

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- It's delicious.
- Thank you.

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Adrien, tell me about your work.

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It's going really well.

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It was our bass player's birthday
at the last concert.

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The audience sang Happy Birthday to him.

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He was thrilled.

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We're doing alright.

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We have work.

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Touch wood.

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How about you, Rama,
is the new book coming on well?

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- And you?
- I'm OK.

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A bit tired from work, but I'm OK.

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It doesn't show, you look well.

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- Good.
- Those earrings really suit you.

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- That's true.
- Thank you.

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You don't often wear earrings,
they suit you.

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Where are you going on holiday this year?

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I don't think we'll go away this year.

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We have some major work
to do on the house.

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What kind of work?

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Nothing very important.

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Nothing very important, yeah.

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Right.

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By the way,

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can you take Mom to physio on Monday?
I finish too late.

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I can't on Monday.
I'm in meetings all day.

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How about you, Rama,

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- can you take her?
- No, I can't.

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You could make an effort.

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But I can't. I won't be here.

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There's Dad.

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Do you remember that cousin?
We never see him.

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- I think that's Uncle Bamba.
- I don't know.

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Yeah, I think it's him.

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There were so many of us!

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Those were happy times.

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You can't tell Dad was sick at the time.

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It didn't show.

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There's Mom. What memories.

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Incredible.

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Look at her!

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Incredible.

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There's Rama.

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- Always calm.
- She was shy.

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Incredible.

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She was already a wild little thing.

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Mom?

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Mom?

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Will you be OK?

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Yes.

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- Call me when you arrive.
- OK.

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Ciao.

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All rise.

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Please be seated.

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Ask the journalists to leave.

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Would all journalists please leave.

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Bailiff, bring in the defendant.

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Gentlemen, please remove the handcuffs.

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Please state your full name,

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date and place of birth
and your parents' full names.

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My name is Laurence Coly.

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I was born March 15, 1980,
in Dakar, Senegal.

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My father's name is Robert Coly,

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my mother's name, Odile Diatta.

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What is your profession?

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I'm a student.

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At the time of your arrest,
you were living with Mr. Luc Dumontet,

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at 29, Avenue du Général De Gaulle,
in Saint-Mandé.

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- Is that correct, Ms. Coly?
- Yes.

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You may be seated.

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The court will now proceed
with jury selection.

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If any of you, ladies and gentlemen,

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are related to the defendant
or her family,

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to any of the attorneys

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or judges, you must say so now.

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Juror number fifteen.

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Mrs. Evelyne Pringent.

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Born February 28, 1958, in Lille.

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Lives in Saint-Omer.

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Profession: Chartered accountant.

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Dismissed.

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Juror number seventeen.

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Mrs. Yasmina Belhadj.

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Born June 22, 1990, in Paris.

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Lives in Clairmarais.

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Profession: Project manager.

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Dismissed.

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Juror number eighteen.

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Mrs. Sandrine Deportaire.

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Born February 19, 1986, in Lille.

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Lives in Armentières.

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Profession: Nurse.

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Please be seated.

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Juror number twenty-one.

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Mr. Julien Titrain.

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Born August 9, 1986, in Calais...

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Ms. Coly, please stand up.

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Ms. Coly,

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you are accused of the murder
of your 15-month-old daughter, Elise.

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The indictment we will now read,
details the facts

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that led to your arrest.

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On November 11, 2015,

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a man went into a police station
in Berck-sur-Mer.

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He reported finding the body of a child
on the beach that morning.

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He told the police officers
that while he was shore fishing,

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he noticed a shape
washed up on the sand.

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At first, he thought it was a seal.

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He went over to it
and discovered the corpse of a child.

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A medical examiner inspected the body

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and confirmed that the corpse
was that of a little girl,

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the cause of death:
drowning, suffocated by saltwater.

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There were no toxic substances

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or signs of abuse on the child's body.

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The investigators first thought the child
was a migrant drowned in a shipwreck.

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That same evening,

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the manager of Les Embruns hotel
went to the police station.

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He remembered a female guest and a child
who had spent a night at the hotel.

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The name given by the guest
enabled the officers to search

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the national immigration database.

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The name was Ms. Laurence Coly,

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living with Mr. Luc Dumontet,

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at 29, Avenue du Général De Gaulle,
in Saint-Mandé,

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in the Paris metropolitan area.

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The officers went
to your place of residence

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on November 20, 2015,

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nine days after the corpse was found.

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At first, you told them you'd sent
your daughter to your mother in Dakar

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to give yourself time
to write your thesis.

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You were informed that you were seen
with the child at the Gare du Nord,

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on the beach
and at the hotel in Berck-sur-Mer.

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Images from the CCTV cameras show

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that you returned to Paris alone,

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without the child.

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This was when you confessed.

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You told the detectives
that you killed your daughter because,

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I quote, "It would make life easier."

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You claimed to have committed the crime
after a violent clash with Mr. Dumontet.

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You claimed to have left
your daughter on the beach

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believing that the sea
would carry away her body.

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You claimed to have been, I quote,

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"Drawn into a tragic and vile venture."

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And although you claim
to have Western values,

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you describe "hallucinatory" phenomena

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of which you claim to be the victim.

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You talk of an "evil-eye,"

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you say you were cursed
by your family in Senegal

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and by Mr. Dumontet's family.

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Ms. Coly,

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do you know why you killed your daughter?

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I don't know.

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I hope this trial
will give me the answer.

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- Do you accept the alleged facts?
- Yes, I do.

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How do you plead?

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I plead not guilty, Your Honor.

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I don't think I'm the responsible party
in this case.

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What do you mean by,
"I don't think I'm the responsible party?"

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The two years before my daughter's death
were the worst of my life.

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Ms. Coly,

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we are here to try to understand,
you must explain.

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Mrs. Coly, we will now talk
about you and your life.

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You were born in Dakar.

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Your mother, Odile Diatta, is unemployed
and your father,

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Robert Coly,
a United Nations translator.

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They were in a relationship
for seven years.

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Could you tell us about your childhood?

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Shortly after I was born, my father
left my mother for another woman.

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I grew up with my mother
and my maternal grandmother.

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I was very close to my grandmother,
she took care of me.

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She was very affectionate with me.

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I was devastated by her death.

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She was called Elise,

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like my daughter.

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What were you like as a child?

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Materially, I lacked for nothing.

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We lived with others in a large house.

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We were comfortable.

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I think my childhood was quite ordinary.

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Cousins, birthday parties,
baptisms, Christmases...

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I was brought up as an only child.

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They say I was chatty, jolly...

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yet I remember sometimes,
I distanced myself from the others.

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It worried my grandmother,
but I needed time alone.

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I read a lot too.

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I was mad about literature.

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- Did you have friends?
- Not really.

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Why do you think that was?

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I don't know.

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Perhaps because my parent's situation
was rather unusual.

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Or because my mother
forbade me to speak Wolof.

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It distanced me from the others.

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Why were you forbidden to speak Wolof?

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She wanted me to speak perfect French
and only French.

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She wanted me to succeed in life.

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She was obsessed by my education.

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What about your father?

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- Did you see him regularly?
- Yes, I did.

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I went to his house
one Sunday per month.

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My father is a calm person.

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He can be severe, but...

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he is sensitive and very cultured.

262
00:27:06,626 --> 00:27:08,544
We share a taste for the arts.

263
00:27:09,754 --> 00:27:11,881
With my mother, on the other hand,

264
00:27:14,467 --> 00:27:16,552
you could say it's more charged.

265
00:27:18,846 --> 00:27:21,474
- She is more hotheaded.
- Meaning?

266
00:27:22,517 --> 00:27:26,187
How would you describe
your relationship with your mother?

267
00:27:27,271 --> 00:27:29,815
When I was young,
my mother was often absent.

268
00:27:30,233 --> 00:27:33,569
She worked hard, she was always tired.

269
00:27:34,570 --> 00:27:37,865
Even if she had high expectations of me,

270
00:27:40,409 --> 00:27:43,412
- there was always a distance between us.
- Meaning?

271
00:27:44,247 --> 00:27:46,290
What do you mean by "distance"?

272
00:27:47,583 --> 00:27:49,085
I don't know.

273
00:27:51,128 --> 00:27:53,005
We don't have much in common.

274
00:27:53,589 --> 00:27:55,800
We're not interested in the same things.

275
00:27:56,551 --> 00:27:58,302
We are very different.

276
00:27:58,678 --> 00:28:01,472
Your mother has lived in Italy
for several years.

277
00:28:01,514 --> 00:28:03,933
She told the detectives

278
00:28:03,975 --> 00:28:07,937
that you called each other regularly,
at least once a week.

279
00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:11,440
This statement suggests

280
00:28:12,024 --> 00:28:15,486
that you were close,
Ms. Coly, not distant.

281
00:28:15,528 --> 00:28:17,154
I don't know.

282
00:28:17,196 --> 00:28:18,990
We called each other because...

283
00:28:19,407 --> 00:28:21,742
one has to call one's mother,
that's how it is.

284
00:28:23,202 --> 00:28:25,955
Would you say you were a wanted child?

285
00:28:26,414 --> 00:28:27,790
I don't know.

286
00:28:28,165 --> 00:28:31,377
You should ask them,
it didn't feel that way.

287
00:28:35,548 --> 00:28:37,758
What was your education like?

288
00:28:38,843 --> 00:28:42,305
My education was classic, literary.

289
00:28:42,346 --> 00:28:45,099
I attended the same Catholic school
all the way through.

290
00:28:45,808 --> 00:28:47,143
I was a good student.

291
00:28:47,810 --> 00:28:49,562
I knew what I wanted to study.

292
00:28:50,062 --> 00:28:51,480
My father supported me.

293
00:28:52,064 --> 00:28:53,608
I wanted to study law.

294
00:28:53,649 --> 00:28:55,943
Why did you decide to come to France?

295
00:28:57,945 --> 00:28:59,697
To get away from my parents.

296
00:29:02,617 --> 00:29:05,077
You just described a happy childhood,

297
00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:07,914
yet you wanted
to get away from your parents.

298
00:29:07,955 --> 00:29:09,999
That's contradictory.

299
00:29:12,502 --> 00:29:16,255
On the outside, everything was fine,
but it was oppressive.

300
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:19,258
My father

301
00:29:20,009 --> 00:29:22,720
put a lot of pressure on me.

302
00:29:22,762 --> 00:29:25,139
I am his only biological child.

303
00:29:28,851 --> 00:29:31,103
I carried a lot of weight
on my shoulders.

304
00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:35,399
As for my mother, like I said,

305
00:29:35,441 --> 00:29:37,610
it was more or less the same thing.

306
00:29:37,652 --> 00:29:39,028
Sometimes,

307
00:29:39,403 --> 00:29:42,448
I felt she was projecting
her own desires onto me.

308
00:29:46,244 --> 00:29:49,288
Their obsession with my success
tormented me.

309
00:29:56,587 --> 00:30:00,508
You came to France in 1998.

310
00:30:00,550 --> 00:30:04,262
You lived with one of your maternal aunts

311
00:30:04,303 --> 00:30:06,639
in the 5th arrondissement, in Paris.

312
00:30:06,681 --> 00:30:09,433
How were your first years in Paris?

313
00:30:11,894 --> 00:30:13,980
I stayed with my aunt for two years.

314
00:30:14,438 --> 00:30:17,775
After that, I shared an apartment
with a cousin, Marthe.

315
00:30:18,651 --> 00:30:20,319
My father paid the rent,

316
00:30:20,361 --> 00:30:22,363
I attended university.

317
00:30:23,531 --> 00:30:25,700
It should have gone well, but...

318
00:30:26,576 --> 00:30:28,619
there were problems with Marthe.

319
00:30:29,203 --> 00:30:31,998
She caused trouble,
she was jealous of me.

320
00:30:33,207 --> 00:30:35,418
The year I spent with her was horrible.

321
00:30:37,962 --> 00:30:40,548
At that time,
something inside me snapped.

322
00:30:42,967 --> 00:30:44,385
After that...

323
00:30:46,637 --> 00:30:50,391
I went back to Dakar for a while
for my grandmother's funeral.

324
00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:51,809
There,

325
00:30:52,143 --> 00:30:54,645
everyone was weird around me.

326
00:30:54,687 --> 00:30:56,272
They called me an Oreo

327
00:30:56,314 --> 00:30:59,066
because I acted like
a white Parisian woman.

328
00:31:00,109 --> 00:31:02,361
It was a very difficult trip.

329
00:31:03,321 --> 00:31:06,324
I argued a lot with my mother.

330
00:31:08,201 --> 00:31:09,952
She also said I had changed.

331
00:31:11,704 --> 00:31:14,332
My only desire was to return to France,

332
00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:16,834
but I didn't want to live
with my cousin again.

333
00:31:18,211 --> 00:31:20,463
I went back to my aunt's place,

334
00:31:20,505 --> 00:31:22,673
but I only stayed for three months.

335
00:31:22,715 --> 00:31:26,511
I found a room
in exchange for child minding.

336
00:31:26,886 --> 00:31:30,598
Yes, the mother of those children,
Mrs. Vincent,

337
00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:33,518
said you were
very affectionate with them.

338
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:37,855
She said you were, "Kind, intelligent,"

339
00:31:37,897 --> 00:31:40,066
it seems she really liked you.

340
00:31:40,816 --> 00:31:42,944
I got on well with the children.

341
00:31:43,277 --> 00:31:46,197
I looked after them for a few years,
then I stopped.

342
00:31:47,073 --> 00:31:49,200
My father stopped sending me money.

343
00:31:49,575 --> 00:31:53,412
He was disappointed that I decided
to do philosophy and not law.

344
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:56,582
He refused to support me.

345
00:31:57,333 --> 00:31:58,417
He...

346
00:32:00,294 --> 00:32:01,838
When he found out...

347
00:32:11,764 --> 00:32:14,725
Your father wasn't able
to attend your trial,

348
00:32:14,767 --> 00:32:17,520
he claimed he had
an urgent job in Cameroun.

349
00:32:18,062 --> 00:32:20,606
I will read an extract
from his statement.

350
00:32:21,899 --> 00:32:26,320
"Laurence was an obedient,
intelligent and gifted child.

351
00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:31,534
"Our relationship became complicated
when she went to France."

352
00:32:34,370 --> 00:32:37,206
Your father mentions
an argument you had in 2002,

353
00:32:37,248 --> 00:32:39,125
after which, you cut ties.

354
00:32:41,669 --> 00:32:43,921
What was the argument about?

355
00:32:47,091 --> 00:32:50,344
It was at Christmas, over the phone.

356
00:32:51,888 --> 00:32:54,682
He'd found out
that I'd stopped attending university.

357
00:32:55,016 --> 00:32:56,809
He was very cross.

358
00:32:58,227 --> 00:33:00,104
I told him

359
00:33:01,314 --> 00:33:05,484
I wanted to swap law for philosophy,
but he was against it.

360
00:33:06,694 --> 00:33:09,822
He said he'd stop supporting me
if I didn't change my mind.

361
00:33:13,075 --> 00:33:15,661
So that was when all ties were cut?

362
00:33:16,078 --> 00:33:17,078
Yes.

363
00:33:19,540 --> 00:33:22,335
When your father stopped supporting you,

364
00:33:22,919 --> 00:33:27,006
was that when things started
to go badly with Mrs. Vincent?

365
00:33:27,882 --> 00:33:29,509
Yes, it was then.

366
00:33:30,051 --> 00:33:31,761
I had no income.

367
00:33:32,303 --> 00:33:35,473
I couldn't pay the rent
and my mother couldn't help me.

368
00:33:38,601 --> 00:33:42,730
When Mrs. Vincent asked you to move out,

369
00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:45,733
she says you emotionally blackmailed her.

370
00:33:45,775 --> 00:33:48,402
That's not true.
I just asked her for some time.

371
00:33:48,694 --> 00:33:50,571
I had to find a solution.

372
00:33:50,613 --> 00:33:52,782
I didn't want to go back to my aunt's.

373
00:33:57,245 --> 00:33:59,705
Was it at that time

374
00:33:59,747 --> 00:34:02,583
that you moved in with Mr. Dumontet?

375
00:34:03,042 --> 00:34:04,085
Yes.

376
00:34:05,628 --> 00:34:07,505
How did you meet him?

377
00:34:08,589 --> 00:34:10,925
At a dinner at my aunt's place.

378
00:34:11,843 --> 00:34:13,636
He knew her from Senegal.

379
00:34:14,762 --> 00:34:16,722
I think my aunt had her eye on him.

380
00:34:16,763 --> 00:34:18,683
What made you think that?

381
00:34:20,977 --> 00:34:22,270
I don't know.

382
00:34:22,854 --> 00:34:25,106
She seemed flattered
that he came to see her.

383
00:34:26,649 --> 00:34:28,234
I always suspected it.

384
00:34:29,694 --> 00:34:31,654
She flirted with him.

385
00:34:32,530 --> 00:34:34,991
Luc always denied it when I asked him.

386
00:34:37,326 --> 00:34:39,912
I think she invited me to impress him.

387
00:34:40,370 --> 00:34:43,499
Having a well-educated niece
made her look good.

388
00:34:46,169 --> 00:34:49,546
We spoke a lot that night.

389
00:34:50,881 --> 00:34:53,759
Luc knew Senegal well,
he'd spent some time there.

390
00:34:55,052 --> 00:34:57,889
He invited me to an exhibition
the next day.

391
00:34:59,265 --> 00:35:01,392
We started to spend time together.

392
00:35:02,185 --> 00:35:04,896
We got on well
despite our age difference.

393
00:35:05,563 --> 00:35:07,023
He was 57,

394
00:35:07,523 --> 00:35:08,900
I was 24.

395
00:35:10,943 --> 00:35:14,989
Did you have any romantic relationships
before Mr. Dumontet?

396
00:35:15,031 --> 00:35:17,825
The only relationship I've ever had
was with Mr. Dumontet.

397
00:35:18,910 --> 00:35:23,164
Did you have sexual relations
with anyone other than Mr. Dumontet?

398
00:35:23,206 --> 00:35:24,373
No.

399
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:33,424
Did you both agree
that you'd live together?

400
00:35:34,842 --> 00:35:37,053
I think Luc was reluctant.

401
00:35:37,094 --> 00:35:39,055
But for me, living with him made sense,

402
00:35:39,096 --> 00:35:41,599
I couldn't continue
living with Mrs. Vincent.

403
00:35:41,641 --> 00:35:42,683
And

404
00:35:43,226 --> 00:35:44,936
I spent all my time with him.

405
00:35:44,977 --> 00:35:49,065
What did you know about Luc Dumontet
when you met him?

406
00:35:50,149 --> 00:35:53,027
I knew he had spent time in Africa.

407
00:35:54,695 --> 00:35:57,740
I knew he worked for
a major transport company,

408
00:35:58,115 --> 00:36:01,536
that he'd left his job
to follow his passion, sculpture.

409
00:36:02,537 --> 00:36:05,248
Shortly after we met,

410
00:36:05,289 --> 00:36:08,292
he moved into an artist's studio
in St. Mandé.

411
00:36:08,918 --> 00:36:12,630
Were you in love
when you decided to move in with him?

412
00:36:12,672 --> 00:36:13,714
Yes.

413
00:36:15,174 --> 00:36:18,553
Was it at this time
that you went back to university?

414
00:36:18,594 --> 00:36:20,263
Luc encouraged me to study again.

415
00:36:21,681 --> 00:36:25,768
He offered to pay for my studies
so I could be independent later on.

416
00:36:26,227 --> 00:36:28,896
When you moved in with Luc Dumontet,

417
00:36:29,397 --> 00:36:31,899
did you know he had a daughter?

418
00:36:32,316 --> 00:36:33,776
That he was still married?

419
00:36:33,818 --> 00:36:35,903
Even if he wasn't living with them.

420
00:36:35,945 --> 00:36:36,945
Yes.

421
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,823
I knew from the start.

422
00:36:39,699 --> 00:36:42,702
I saw his daughter
once or twice in St. Mandé.

423
00:36:42,743 --> 00:36:44,620
I saw his wife once.

424
00:36:50,459 --> 00:36:52,128
Any questions?

425
00:36:56,048 --> 00:36:57,592
Counselor Vaudenay.

426
00:37:01,179 --> 00:37:04,265
How was your relationship
with Mr. Dumontet's family

427
00:37:04,307 --> 00:37:06,309
when you moved in with him?

428
00:37:07,185 --> 00:37:09,061
He didn't introduce me to any of them.

429
00:37:10,104 --> 00:37:13,274
Luc lunched with his wife once a week,
I had no say in it.

430
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:17,069
I don't know what he told her about me,
he wouldn't say.

431
00:37:18,738 --> 00:37:20,948
I didn't exist when she was around.

432
00:37:21,657 --> 00:37:25,119
He said they were just friends
but I didn't know if it was true.

433
00:37:25,953 --> 00:37:28,247
I wasn't invited
to his daughter's wedding,

434
00:37:28,289 --> 00:37:30,625
but he did ask me to cook the meal.

435
00:37:31,250 --> 00:37:35,129
When the reception began at the studio,
Luc booked me into a hotel.

436
00:37:35,963 --> 00:37:38,382
He slipped me out through the back door.

437
00:37:41,219 --> 00:37:43,721
No further questions, Your Honor.

438
00:37:46,098 --> 00:37:48,893
Ms. Coly, at what point

439
00:37:48,935 --> 00:37:53,397
did your relationship with Mr. Dumontet
start to deteriorate?

440
00:37:58,945 --> 00:38:01,280
Certain facts distanced me from him.

441
00:38:01,322 --> 00:38:02,615
What do you mean?

442
00:38:04,325 --> 00:38:05,826
I had visions.

443
00:38:06,619 --> 00:38:07,954
A flash.

444
00:38:08,621 --> 00:38:09,956
About a secret of his.

445
00:38:11,249 --> 00:38:12,917
A secret he keeps to himself.

446
00:38:13,543 --> 00:38:16,337
You didn't mention that
during the investigation.

447
00:38:16,921 --> 00:38:19,423
You described recurrent harassment,

448
00:38:19,465 --> 00:38:22,718
disdain, indifference, lack of interest.

449
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,096
Those were your grievances.

450
00:38:25,137 --> 00:38:29,141
In addition, you resented him
for visiting his brother in Auvergne.

451
00:38:29,183 --> 00:38:30,351
No.

452
00:38:30,810 --> 00:38:34,188
I meant it was Luc's attitude
and behavior that puzzled me.

453
00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:38,776
Parties or birthdays spent with the wife
he had supposedly left, not with me.

454
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,653
It was as if...

455
00:38:41,153 --> 00:38:44,323
someone or something
wanted to distance him from me.

456
00:38:49,453 --> 00:38:50,580
Did you want a child?

457
00:38:50,621 --> 00:38:51,956
No.

458
00:38:51,998 --> 00:38:55,585
- Did you use contraception?
- No, we had sex sporadically.

459
00:38:55,626 --> 00:38:59,797
When Luc Dumontet noticed the pregnancy,
you told him you wouldn't terminate it.

460
00:39:00,590 --> 00:39:01,716
Why?

461
00:39:02,466 --> 00:39:05,386
When Luc found out,
it was too late for an abortion.

462
00:39:08,848 --> 00:39:12,101
I didn't get pregnant on purpose
as he told the investigator.

463
00:39:12,810 --> 00:39:14,729
Throughout my entire pregnancy,

464
00:39:14,770 --> 00:39:17,148
he kept looking at me, saying

465
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:19,901
"What will you do?",
never "What will we do?"

466
00:39:20,651 --> 00:39:22,111
I said to him,

467
00:39:23,821 --> 00:39:25,198
"Don't worry,

468
00:39:27,158 --> 00:39:28,910
"you'll still have your life,

469
00:39:30,411 --> 00:39:33,331
"you'll still deny my existence
and that of the child,"

470
00:39:35,041 --> 00:39:36,918
he always found a way to do that.

471
00:39:45,134 --> 00:39:46,761
You may sit down.

472
00:40:01,108 --> 00:40:03,653
Mr. Dumontet, come forward please.

473
00:40:04,153 --> 00:40:05,863
The court will hear you.

474
00:40:13,412 --> 00:40:16,582
Mr. Dumontet, with hindsight,

475
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,963
how do you explain what Ms. Coly did?

476
00:40:23,714 --> 00:40:27,510
It's incomprehensible, Your Honor.

477
00:40:27,552 --> 00:40:30,596
What Laurence did is incomprehensible.

478
00:40:32,014 --> 00:40:35,768
She was a wonderful mother,
the way she took care of Lili...

479
00:40:35,810 --> 00:40:37,937
She massaged her every day.

480
00:40:38,229 --> 00:40:42,066
Lili was loved by both of us.

481
00:40:43,901 --> 00:40:45,528
Laurence Coly said earlier

482
00:40:45,570 --> 00:40:49,282
that you were reluctant
for her to move in with you.

483
00:40:49,574 --> 00:40:51,409
Do you agree with that?

484
00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:52,535
No.

485
00:40:53,786 --> 00:40:56,956
I was somewhat surprised
about the way it happened

486
00:40:56,998 --> 00:40:59,709
but I welcomed her gladly.

487
00:41:01,127 --> 00:41:03,504
We agreed on a three-year period,

488
00:41:03,546 --> 00:41:08,176
so that she could finish her studies
and find work as a university lecturer.

489
00:41:08,759 --> 00:41:10,678
That was our agreement.

490
00:41:13,306 --> 00:41:16,517
For the most part,
I believe we got on well.

491
00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:19,353
I would go as far as to say
that we were happy.

492
00:41:20,104 --> 00:41:22,106
At least in the beginning.

493
00:41:22,148 --> 00:41:24,066
We went out a lot.

494
00:41:24,692 --> 00:41:28,654
I was proud to have a woman like her
by my side.

495
00:41:30,990 --> 00:41:33,242
Sometimes, when she spoke

496
00:41:35,369 --> 00:41:37,705
about her struggles with the thesis,

497
00:41:37,747 --> 00:41:40,958
I admit, I didn't understand anything,

498
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,127
I couldn't help her, but...

499
00:41:43,169 --> 00:41:45,338
I was very impressed by

500
00:41:45,379 --> 00:41:47,173
how knowledgeable she was.

501
00:41:56,057 --> 00:41:57,433
But...

502
00:41:59,435 --> 00:42:01,562
I should add that

503
00:42:01,896 --> 00:42:04,607
Laurence is a very difficult person.

504
00:42:05,274 --> 00:42:08,152
She is extremely jealous of everyone.

505
00:42:08,194 --> 00:42:10,613
Whenever a woman spoke to me,

506
00:42:10,655 --> 00:42:15,326
she became paranoid, crazy.

507
00:42:15,368 --> 00:42:17,787
She could stay angry for days

508
00:42:17,828 --> 00:42:20,039
and give me the silent treatment.

509
00:42:20,456 --> 00:42:25,127
Her silence was very aggressive.

510
00:42:25,545 --> 00:42:29,507
She often told me that if she felt
I'd become too old and helpless,

511
00:42:30,132 --> 00:42:31,676
she would leave me.

512
00:42:33,010 --> 00:42:36,055
I took it for granted
that she'd leave me one day.

513
00:42:36,848 --> 00:42:39,851
Would you say
you had a romantic relationship

514
00:42:39,892 --> 00:42:42,144
with Ms. Coly?

515
00:42:43,229 --> 00:42:44,272
Yes.

516
00:42:44,981 --> 00:42:47,859
Yes, I think it was a love affair

517
00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:51,863
that went wrong and I don't know why.

518
00:42:53,781 --> 00:42:55,616
But it was a love affair.

519
00:42:55,658 --> 00:43:00,162
We conceived a child whom we both adored.

520
00:43:00,204 --> 00:43:03,291
And despite Laurence's temper,

521
00:43:04,542 --> 00:43:06,961
when the three of us lay in bed,

522
00:43:07,003 --> 00:43:10,756
I felt like the happiest man alive.

523
00:43:10,798 --> 00:43:15,386
Yet you never introduced Ms. Coly
to your friends or family.

524
00:43:16,387 --> 00:43:19,432
You told nobody about Elise's birth.

525
00:43:19,932 --> 00:43:21,434
How do you explain that?

526
00:43:21,475 --> 00:43:23,895
I thought Laurence
was embarrassed about us,

527
00:43:23,936 --> 00:43:27,523
she kept saying I was too old,
I didn't want to push her.

528
00:43:27,565 --> 00:43:29,650
And her jealousy...

529
00:43:30,193 --> 00:43:33,196
I was always afraid
she'd take things the wrong way,

530
00:43:33,237 --> 00:43:35,072
so I avoided certain subjects.

531
00:43:35,114 --> 00:43:38,075
And it was better for Elise, too.

532
00:43:38,910 --> 00:43:41,495
It was simpler for everyone.

533
00:43:46,792 --> 00:43:50,630
You said your relationship deteriorated

534
00:43:50,671 --> 00:43:53,257
before the child's birth.

535
00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:56,552
Didn't you think about contraception?

536
00:43:57,011 --> 00:43:58,095
No.

537
00:43:58,137 --> 00:44:02,225
Laurence told me that due to an illness
she didn't need it.

538
00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:05,019
Didn't you notice her pregnancy?

539
00:44:07,146 --> 00:44:09,815
When did you realize she was pregnant?

540
00:44:09,857 --> 00:44:12,568
Of course I had my suspicions.

541
00:44:12,610 --> 00:44:16,405
But when I asked her,
she systematically denied it.

542
00:44:16,697 --> 00:44:18,866
When she did tell me, it was too late.

543
00:44:20,451 --> 00:44:22,495
I was away a lot.

544
00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:26,374
I went to Clermont often
to visit my brother

545
00:44:26,415 --> 00:44:28,251
who was dying.

546
00:44:31,671 --> 00:44:35,508
Strangely, we were getting on better
at that time.

547
00:44:36,467 --> 00:44:38,803
Laurence seemed calmer.

548
00:44:41,305 --> 00:44:44,559
Then in August,
after one of those visits,

549
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,812
when I returned, Lili was there.

550
00:44:49,397 --> 00:44:53,150
How did you feel when you arrived home
and saw the child?

551
00:44:53,943 --> 00:44:55,695
I was shocked.

552
00:44:56,737 --> 00:45:00,032
I was shocked to find Laurence
in bed with a baby,

553
00:45:00,074 --> 00:45:02,410
I was shocked she hadn't called me.

554
00:45:02,451 --> 00:45:04,161
Yet, I had returned

555
00:45:04,203 --> 00:45:07,665
two days before the delivery date
she had given me.

556
00:45:08,249 --> 00:45:11,878
Soon afterwards, Laurence told me
Lili had to go to Senegal

557
00:45:11,919 --> 00:45:15,381
while she finished her studies
and found a job.

558
00:45:15,756 --> 00:45:19,260
She said I was too old
to look after a baby properly,

559
00:45:19,302 --> 00:45:22,471
that her mother was in Dakar
and would look after Lili.

560
00:45:28,186 --> 00:45:30,813
Your Honor, if I may,

561
00:45:30,855 --> 00:45:33,691
I'd like to talk about Lili.
Nobody has mentioned her.

562
00:45:33,733 --> 00:45:36,485
I'd like to talk about her,
I took care of her.

563
00:45:36,527 --> 00:45:40,823
Each morning, weather permitting,
I took her to the Bois de Vincennes.

564
00:45:41,365 --> 00:45:44,243
The nannies would see me,

565
00:45:44,285 --> 00:45:47,330
occasionally,
one of them would peek into the stroller

566
00:45:47,371 --> 00:45:50,708
and tell me how cute she was.

567
00:45:56,005 --> 00:45:58,216
One day, I...

568
00:45:59,509 --> 00:46:03,095
I was heavy handed with Lili,
it was nothing,

569
00:46:03,137 --> 00:46:07,350
Laurence was furious,
she accused me of not loving her.

570
00:46:07,391 --> 00:46:12,605
I said I'd get a divorce, marry her,
that I'd do anything for her and Lili.

571
00:46:12,647 --> 00:46:14,732
But during her pregnancy,

572
00:46:14,774 --> 00:46:16,400
did you look after Ms. Coly?

573
00:46:16,442 --> 00:46:20,655
Did you go with her to the scans
or doctor's appointments?

574
00:46:22,031 --> 00:46:25,618
No, I didn't know how to,
we didn't do that.

575
00:46:25,660 --> 00:46:29,747
When I had my daughter,
men didn't do those things.

576
00:46:29,789 --> 00:46:32,083
Nor did you acknowledge paternity.

577
00:46:34,210 --> 00:46:37,296
What's more, the first time
the detectives called you,

578
00:46:37,964 --> 00:46:40,591
you answered the phone and you told them,

579
00:46:41,008 --> 00:46:44,470
"Yes, a child lives here,
but I'm not the father."

580
00:46:44,512 --> 00:46:47,640
You told them
it was your girlfriend's daughter.

581
00:46:48,266 --> 00:46:50,518
How do you explain that, Mr. Dumontet?

582
00:46:53,187 --> 00:46:56,440
Laurence always said to me,
"She's mine, she's mine."

583
00:46:57,108 --> 00:47:00,611
When I asked her
if she'd registered the child,

584
00:47:00,653 --> 00:47:03,030
she said she had, but in her name.

585
00:47:04,115 --> 00:47:06,701
I thought perhaps it was for the better,

586
00:47:06,742 --> 00:47:09,328
that it would be complicated for Lili

587
00:47:09,370 --> 00:47:12,748
to bear the name Dumontet, in Senegal.

588
00:47:13,499 --> 00:47:17,628
You never mentioned Lili
to your eldest daughter, Adeline?

589
00:47:22,675 --> 00:47:25,553
I thought it was
too complicated to explain,

590
00:47:25,595 --> 00:47:28,306
she'd just given birth herself...

591
00:47:29,891 --> 00:47:33,811
When Ms. Coly returned without Lili,
you had packed up her baby clothes

592
00:47:33,853 --> 00:47:35,563
to donate them to charity.

593
00:47:35,980 --> 00:47:38,566
You didn't tell a soul about her birth.

594
00:47:39,150 --> 00:47:44,155
You never questioned her mother's decision
to send the child to Senegal.

595
00:47:44,197 --> 00:47:47,992
Ms. Coly claims
you didn't care about Lili and her.

596
00:47:48,951 --> 00:47:51,746
Neither did you attend
the child's funeral.

597
00:47:53,289 --> 00:47:55,791
How should we interpret all that,
Mr. Dumontet?

598
00:47:56,292 --> 00:47:57,627
I don't know.

599
00:47:58,336 --> 00:47:59,837
I don't know.

600
00:48:02,715 --> 00:48:05,009
The funeral was too far away,

601
00:48:05,051 --> 00:48:06,636
I couldn't go there.

602
00:48:10,181 --> 00:48:14,227
The idea of Lili's death
was rather abstract for me.

603
00:48:14,268 --> 00:48:16,187
It's hard to grasp.

604
00:48:17,855 --> 00:48:21,317
I don't know, I don't know!

605
00:48:26,197 --> 00:48:28,866
Does the Prosecuting Attorney
have any questions?

606
00:48:29,867 --> 00:48:33,079
Mr. Dumontet, I do not doubt

607
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,165
your good intentions towards Ms. Coly.

608
00:48:36,499 --> 00:48:39,085
When she moved in with you,
her situation was critical.

609
00:48:39,126 --> 00:48:41,546
She was jobless, homeless,

610
00:48:41,587 --> 00:48:44,632
she wasn't even studying.
You took her in.

611
00:48:44,674 --> 00:48:48,928
You found her a job,
enabled her to go back to her studies,

612
00:48:49,637 --> 00:48:52,014
you even funded her studies.

613
00:48:52,765 --> 00:48:55,393
What didn't you do for this woman?

614
00:48:55,434 --> 00:48:56,435
And she...

615
00:48:56,727 --> 00:48:58,354
in return,

616
00:48:58,396 --> 00:49:01,023
I would love to know
what Ms. Coly gave you.

617
00:49:01,065 --> 00:49:05,027
While I don't doubt
your love for this woman,

618
00:49:05,069 --> 00:49:10,074
did she not move in with you
purely out of self-interest?

619
00:49:13,536 --> 00:49:16,122
No, I don't think so.

620
00:49:17,999 --> 00:49:21,961
I believe we were genuinely in love.

621
00:49:27,049 --> 00:49:28,259
Counselor.

622
00:49:33,764 --> 00:49:38,769
Mr. Dumontet, do you believe you have
moral responsibility in this case?

623
00:49:41,355 --> 00:49:42,356
Yes.

624
00:49:43,149 --> 00:49:46,027
I am responsible for everything.

625
00:49:47,153 --> 00:49:51,115
I blame myself for everything,
I didn't protect Lili.

626
00:49:53,659 --> 00:49:56,954
I am paying for that.
I can never make amends.

627
00:49:58,414 --> 00:50:00,666
I've lost everything.
My life is worthless.

628
00:50:00,708 --> 00:50:03,711
My gown is black, Mr. Dumontet, not red.

629
00:50:03,753 --> 00:50:06,005
My role is not to judge you.

630
00:50:06,797 --> 00:50:09,133
But I will talk of your cowardice,

631
00:50:09,467 --> 00:50:12,512
your lack of involvement
in your daughter's birth.

632
00:50:13,179 --> 00:50:14,889
You didn't want the pregnancy.

633
00:50:15,306 --> 00:50:17,016
You didn't want the child.

634
00:50:17,058 --> 00:50:20,311
You had no intention
of changing your life in any way.

635
00:50:21,062 --> 00:50:24,815
You claim to speak of Lili,
but you speak only of yourself.

636
00:50:25,900 --> 00:50:28,819
Laurence Coly's distress
was staring you in the face,

637
00:50:28,861 --> 00:50:30,696
but you chose to turn a blind eye,

638
00:50:30,738 --> 00:50:33,241
because you didn't want to see it.

639
00:50:33,282 --> 00:50:35,284
Because you didn't care.

640
00:50:51,676 --> 00:50:53,386
Thank you, Mr. Dumontet.

641
00:51:08,192 --> 00:51:09,861
Stand up, Ms. Coly.

642
00:51:12,238 --> 00:51:13,238
Ms. Coly,

643
00:51:13,656 --> 00:51:16,450
how are your prison conditions?

644
00:51:19,787 --> 00:51:21,205
It's calm.

645
00:51:21,914 --> 00:51:24,167
For the first three months,

646
00:51:24,208 --> 00:51:26,252
I didn't leave my cell.

647
00:51:28,588 --> 00:51:30,506
I was afraid to go out alone.

648
00:51:33,092 --> 00:51:34,343
Then...

649
00:51:35,595 --> 00:51:39,599
it was only after two or three months,

650
00:51:40,308 --> 00:51:42,602
that I began to have contact with others.

651
00:51:44,562 --> 00:51:48,566
The report from Sequedin prison
describes you as calm,

652
00:51:48,608 --> 00:51:52,111
smiling, undemanding and very respectful.

653
00:51:54,197 --> 00:51:55,239
Yes.

654
00:51:56,574 --> 00:52:00,036
Generally speaking,
my imprisonment is very dignified.

655
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:04,081
A few months after your arrival,

656
00:52:04,582 --> 00:52:06,626
you mentioned some bullying.

657
00:52:15,676 --> 00:52:18,513
A woman who has killed her baby

658
00:52:19,138 --> 00:52:21,599
can't really expect any sympathy.

659
00:52:23,434 --> 00:52:25,269
I shared their horror.

660
00:52:30,483 --> 00:52:32,276
The hearing is adjourned.

661
00:53:54,901 --> 00:53:58,154
- Excuse me, I don't know your name.
- Rama.

662
00:53:59,906 --> 00:54:01,199
Pleased to meet you.

663
00:54:27,266 --> 00:54:28,809
This is my hotel.

664
00:54:31,395 --> 00:54:33,356
Mine is a bit further on.

665
00:54:35,024 --> 00:54:37,193
- See you tomorrow.
- Yes.

666
00:54:37,944 --> 00:54:41,072
I would have liked us
to eat together tonight,

667
00:54:41,113 --> 00:54:44,867
but it's a little late
and I need to sleep.

668
00:54:44,909 --> 00:54:45,993
Of course.

669
00:54:46,577 --> 00:54:49,372
We could have lunch tomorrow
if you want.

670
00:54:49,413 --> 00:54:51,374
OK. With pleasure.

671
00:54:52,291 --> 00:54:53,584
See you tomorrow.

672
00:54:53,626 --> 00:54:55,086
Good evening.

673
00:55:29,036 --> 00:55:31,706
- Hello, Jean-Claude.
- Hi, Rama.

674
00:55:31,747 --> 00:55:34,750
Sorry, I didn't have time
to call you back earlier.

675
00:55:34,792 --> 00:55:36,335
Don't worry, it's OK.

676
00:55:36,669 --> 00:55:39,547
How is the trial? What is she like?

677
00:55:40,298 --> 00:55:42,175
She sounds fascinating.

678
00:55:42,592 --> 00:55:46,053
The press says she talks
in a very sophisticated French.

679
00:55:46,095 --> 00:55:49,265
She talks like an educated woman,
that's all.

680
00:55:49,307 --> 00:55:51,392
That's true, you're right.

681
00:55:52,310 --> 00:55:55,271
So, it went really well this morning.

682
00:55:55,313 --> 00:55:57,815
Everyone is raving about your project.

683
00:55:58,191 --> 00:56:00,860
They're just not sure about the title.

684
00:56:00,902 --> 00:56:03,613
They think "Medea Castaway"
isn't very evocative.

685
00:56:03,654 --> 00:56:06,240
Not everyone knows the story of Medea.

686
00:56:06,282 --> 00:56:09,243
They think it should refer to the trial.

687
00:56:09,285 --> 00:56:12,121
I told them it was a working title.

688
00:56:12,955 --> 00:56:16,167
But doesn't everyone know
the story of Medea?

689
00:56:18,252 --> 00:56:19,337
Well, OK.

690
00:56:19,837 --> 00:56:22,548
I'm not at all worried, you go for it.

691
00:56:22,882 --> 00:56:26,135
I'll read it when you're ready.
I just wanted to give you the news

692
00:56:26,177 --> 00:56:29,889
and to tell you we're thrilled
with the sales of your last book.

693
00:56:29,931 --> 00:56:32,975
We received the figures,
it's very impressive.

694
00:56:33,017 --> 00:56:35,061
We were well received by the press.

695
00:56:37,021 --> 00:56:38,856
That's great. Wonderful.

696
00:56:39,649 --> 00:56:42,193
Come see me when you get back.

697
00:56:42,610 --> 00:56:43,986
We'll have lunch.

698
00:56:44,028 --> 00:56:47,114
With pleasure. Thank you for the update.

699
00:56:47,156 --> 00:56:48,533
Well, see you soon.

700
00:56:49,283 --> 00:56:51,202
- See you soon.
- Goodbye.

701
00:57:11,264 --> 00:57:13,266
He didn't introduce me to anyone.

702
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:17,395
Luc lunched with his wife once a week,
I had no say in it.

703
00:57:18,145 --> 00:57:21,190
I don't know what he told her about me,
he wouldn't say.

704
00:57:22,733 --> 00:57:24,944
I didn't exist when she was around.

705
00:57:25,862 --> 00:57:29,198
He said they were just friends
but I didn't know if it was true.

706
00:57:30,074 --> 00:57:32,201
I wasn't invited
to his daughter's wedding,

707
00:57:32,243 --> 00:57:34,370
but he did ask me to cook the meal.

708
00:57:34,412 --> 00:57:38,291
When the party began at the studio,
Luc booked me into a hotel.

709
00:57:39,083 --> 00:57:41,419
He slipped me out through the back door.

710
00:57:41,460 --> 00:57:43,421
She was a wonderful mother,

711
00:57:43,462 --> 00:57:46,132
the way she took care of Lili...

712
00:57:46,174 --> 00:57:48,259
She massaged her every day.

713
00:57:50,386 --> 00:57:53,973
Lili was loved by both of us.

714
00:57:57,143 --> 00:58:02,023
Laurence said earlier, that you were
reluctant for her to move in with you.

715
00:58:02,064 --> 00:58:03,524
Do you agree?

716
00:58:06,861 --> 00:58:10,323
How would you describe
your relationship with your mother?

717
00:58:11,490 --> 00:58:13,993
When I was young,
my mother was often absent.

718
00:58:14,452 --> 00:58:17,705
She worked hard, she was always tired.

719
00:58:18,748 --> 00:58:21,918
Even if she had high expectations of me,

720
00:58:24,670 --> 00:58:27,548
- there was always a distance between us.
- Meaning?

721
00:58:28,466 --> 00:58:30,426
What do you mean by "distance"?

722
00:58:31,802 --> 00:58:33,304
I don't know.

723
00:58:35,431 --> 00:58:37,308
We don't have much in common.

724
00:58:37,850 --> 00:58:39,977
We're not interested in the same things.

725
00:58:40,811 --> 00:58:42,271
We are very different.

726
01:00:37,261 --> 01:00:38,888
Stand up, Ms. Coly.

727
01:00:42,892 --> 01:00:44,435
Ms. Coly,

728
01:00:44,477 --> 01:00:47,271
you often refer
to the extreme loneliness

729
01:00:47,313 --> 01:00:49,565
of your situation before Elise's birth.

730
01:00:50,525 --> 01:00:52,068
How did you spend your days?

731
01:00:52,109 --> 01:00:55,488
You no longer went to classes,
what did you do?

732
01:00:56,822 --> 01:01:00,076
I had never felt so low
as the year before Lili's birth.

733
01:01:02,286 --> 01:01:04,163
I was becoming very depressed.

734
01:01:06,249 --> 01:01:09,627
I spent hours walking in the woods.

735
01:01:11,462 --> 01:01:15,091
I liked walking in the woods,
nobody bothered me there.

736
01:01:16,008 --> 01:01:18,719
In the studio,
the silence was different.

737
01:01:19,762 --> 01:01:21,389
I was afraid to be alone there.

738
01:01:21,430 --> 01:01:23,057
What were you afraid of?

739
01:01:24,892 --> 01:01:26,978
The atmosphere was becoming hostile.

740
01:01:28,563 --> 01:01:31,691
For months,
I couldn't get out of bed in the morning.

741
01:01:32,525 --> 01:01:35,987
I couldn't lift my head up,
I suffered from headaches.

742
01:01:42,410 --> 01:01:44,078
And from blurred vision.

743
01:01:47,039 --> 01:01:50,209
I heard strange noises
like echoes in the walls.

744
01:01:51,586 --> 01:01:54,172
My feet were throbbing, I couldn't walk.

745
01:01:55,756 --> 01:01:59,093
When I talked to Luc about it,
he didn't want to know,

746
01:01:59,510 --> 01:02:00,845
he didn't listen to me.

747
01:02:01,512 --> 01:02:04,140
He was obsessed with his sick brother,
he ignored me.

748
01:02:04,182 --> 01:02:06,434
Did you consult a doctor?

749
01:02:07,268 --> 01:02:11,063
I saw a physiotherapist
and an osteopath, but that didn't help.

750
01:02:12,565 --> 01:02:15,526
Sorcery was the only logical conclusion.

751
01:02:16,652 --> 01:02:18,821
I consulted various

752
01:02:19,614 --> 01:02:23,951
clairvoyants by telephone,
everything they said made sense.

753
01:02:25,286 --> 01:02:26,913
So I trusted them.

754
01:02:27,371 --> 01:02:29,665
Yet the investigation found

755
01:02:29,707 --> 01:02:33,753
that none of the clairvoyants
you supposedly consulted remembers you.

756
01:02:34,712 --> 01:02:36,964
The officers found no trace

757
01:02:37,215 --> 01:02:39,008
of any financial transactions.

758
01:02:39,050 --> 01:02:43,179
Neither do your telephone records
show any trace of the calls.

759
01:02:43,221 --> 01:02:45,139
But I did call them.

760
01:02:45,181 --> 01:02:47,475
I'm surprised they don't remember me.

761
01:02:47,517 --> 01:02:50,686
I called one every day at 7 a.m.
Her name is Patricia.

762
01:02:51,604 --> 01:02:54,273
Patricia Antonia testified.

763
01:02:55,066 --> 01:02:56,734
She doesn't remember you.

764
01:03:00,696 --> 01:03:02,949
I don't know why she says that.

765
01:03:04,450 --> 01:03:05,868
I told her everything.

766
01:03:07,245 --> 01:03:09,247
I felt she understood me.

767
01:03:13,084 --> 01:03:15,086
When I told her about my dream

768
01:03:16,128 --> 01:03:19,298
in which giant butterflies
invaded the studio, she got it.

769
01:03:20,258 --> 01:03:22,176
She said people wanted to hurt me.

770
01:03:22,218 --> 01:03:24,679
How is there no proof?

771
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,764
Not a single telephone record.

772
01:03:28,391 --> 01:03:29,559
I don't know.

773
01:03:30,726 --> 01:03:35,106
You say your problems began
one year before Elise was born.

774
01:03:35,147 --> 01:03:38,693
Roughly the time Elise was conceived,
is that correct?

775
01:03:39,110 --> 01:03:41,821
Yes, perhaps. That might be so.

776
01:03:42,405 --> 01:03:43,573
I don't remember the dates.

777
01:03:43,614 --> 01:03:48,119
Did you deliberately conceal
your pregnancy?

778
01:03:49,453 --> 01:03:52,498
I acted as if I wasn't pregnant,
I didn't try to conceal it.

779
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,460
When you fell pregnant,
did you consult a doctor?

780
01:03:56,502 --> 01:03:58,963
I didn't see a doctor,
I didn't tell anyone.

781
01:04:00,339 --> 01:04:02,175
Tell us about the birth.

782
01:04:03,634 --> 01:04:05,386
Lili was born at the studio, I was alone.

783
01:04:05,428 --> 01:04:07,013
Why didn't you go to hospital?

784
01:04:07,054 --> 01:04:09,182
I don't know, I was in a black hole.

785
01:04:10,224 --> 01:04:11,767
I didn't go out.

786
01:04:12,602 --> 01:04:14,270
I didn't see anyone.

787
01:04:15,146 --> 01:04:16,939
I was afraid, I wanted to protect Lili.

788
01:04:16,981 --> 01:04:18,733
Protect her from what?

789
01:04:18,774 --> 01:04:20,234
From malicious intent.

790
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,492
What was your frame of mind
just before the birth?

791
01:04:35,500 --> 01:04:36,918
I was worried.

792
01:04:40,213 --> 01:04:41,881
I was scared of not succeeding.

793
01:04:41,923 --> 01:04:44,008
Had you prepared for the birth?

794
01:04:48,513 --> 01:04:49,639
Yes.

795
01:04:51,724 --> 01:04:54,018
I think I prepared for it at some point.

796
01:04:59,607 --> 01:05:01,943
I researched how to do it.

797
01:05:03,361 --> 01:05:07,698
I asked my mom, without telling her why,
how to care for a newborn.

798
01:05:16,457 --> 01:05:18,167
Lili was born during the night.

799
01:05:19,085 --> 01:05:21,128
On August 9, 2014, at 4:44 a.m.

800
01:05:21,170 --> 01:05:22,797
Did you feel alone?

801
01:05:31,681 --> 01:05:33,683
When I had the first contractions,

802
01:05:35,017 --> 01:05:36,686
I could feel she was coming.

803
01:05:37,979 --> 01:05:39,647
I was agitated but...

804
01:05:40,439 --> 01:05:42,441
it was a special moment for me.

805
01:05:44,443 --> 01:05:46,612
When she was born, I was in awe.

806
01:05:48,823 --> 01:05:50,658
I was entranced by that tiny creature.

807
01:05:50,700 --> 01:05:54,287
Didn't you worry that this secret birth
might go wrong?

808
01:05:55,580 --> 01:05:57,957
Lili didn't seem to be in trouble.

809
01:05:57,999 --> 01:06:00,001
She barely cried.

810
01:06:01,085 --> 01:06:04,547
There was this incredible serenity
about her.

811
01:06:04,839 --> 01:06:07,425
When you felt the first contractions,

812
01:06:07,466 --> 01:06:10,011
why didn't you inform Luc Dumontet?

813
01:06:10,052 --> 01:06:11,470
Luc was in Auvergne.

814
01:06:11,846 --> 01:06:13,306
Yet he'd promised to be with me.

815
01:06:13,347 --> 01:06:15,933
- Did you tell him the date?
- Yes.

816
01:06:16,225 --> 01:06:17,977
Yet in your statement

817
01:06:18,728 --> 01:06:21,397
you said you weren't sure
of the date of conception.

818
01:06:21,439 --> 01:06:23,900
I knew when my daughter was conceived.

819
01:06:25,818 --> 01:06:28,321
Luc promised
he'd be back in time for the birth.

820
01:06:28,362 --> 01:06:30,448
When Lili was born,

821
01:06:31,032 --> 01:06:34,160
you didn't call Mr. Dumontet
to tell him to come.

822
01:06:36,078 --> 01:06:37,830
I didn't think it was necessary.

823
01:06:39,999 --> 01:06:41,792
I wanted that moment for myself.

824
01:06:41,834 --> 01:06:46,339
What did you tell him when he came back
and saw you with Lili?

825
01:06:51,677 --> 01:06:52,970
Luc arrived,

826
01:06:55,014 --> 01:06:56,933
he saw me holding a baby.

827
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,104
He came over and looked at the child.

828
01:07:08,402 --> 01:07:09,654
He seemed

829
01:07:10,238 --> 01:07:11,572
appalled,

830
01:07:12,114 --> 01:07:13,282
speechless.

831
01:07:15,701 --> 01:07:17,703
When he finally spoke, he said,

832
01:07:17,745 --> 01:07:19,413
"Are you sure she's mine?"

833
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,292
I said to him, "Don't worry,

834
01:07:24,877 --> 01:07:26,212
"she's mine."

835
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,593
I was upset he questioned his paternity
so I said she was mine.

836
01:07:35,555 --> 01:07:39,100
I was in a state of beatitude
and his words were so vulgar,

837
01:07:39,392 --> 01:07:41,853
I found it deeply insulting.

838
01:07:41,894 --> 01:07:45,147
What did you tell him about the birth?

839
01:07:45,606 --> 01:07:47,984
That I'd given birth
at Les Bluets clinic.

840
01:07:48,025 --> 01:07:49,694
You told him

841
01:07:49,735 --> 01:07:51,863
that you had registered Lili's birth.

842
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,407
Why didn't you do so?

843
01:07:54,448 --> 01:07:56,492
I didn't register her

844
01:07:57,535 --> 01:07:59,495
because I gave birth at home,

845
01:08:00,746 --> 01:08:02,582
because I never left the studio,

846
01:08:02,623 --> 01:08:04,709
and because it didn't even occur to me.

847
01:08:06,669 --> 01:08:09,797
Luc asked me if I'd registered her,
I don't know why I lied.

848
01:08:09,839 --> 01:08:12,216
What was your life with Elise like?

849
01:08:16,304 --> 01:08:18,054
At first, I didn't take her out.

850
01:08:18,598 --> 01:08:20,641
My days were structured around her.

851
01:08:20,933 --> 01:08:23,311
She was calm, she barely cried.

852
01:08:25,021 --> 01:08:27,315
My routine was shaped by Lili's needs.

853
01:08:27,356 --> 01:08:29,150
- Did you breastfeed her?
- Yes.

854
01:08:29,983 --> 01:08:32,111
When did you take her out of the studio?

855
01:08:34,197 --> 01:08:37,241
I didn't take her out
for at least six months.

856
01:08:38,867 --> 01:08:41,411
Luc was a bit more present at that time,

857
01:08:41,454 --> 01:08:43,748
as soon as Lili could hold her head up,

858
01:08:43,789 --> 01:08:44,999
he began to take her out.

859
01:08:45,041 --> 01:08:47,835
But you,
nobody ever saw you with the baby.

860
01:08:48,126 --> 01:08:50,630
Nobody saw me pregnant or with the baby.

861
01:08:50,922 --> 01:08:52,673
I barely left the studio.

862
01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:56,719
Did you buy any baby equipment?

863
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:57,969
Not much.

864
01:08:58,012 --> 01:09:00,681
A few child care items,

865
01:09:00,723 --> 01:09:03,309
a bouncy chair, baby clothes.

866
01:09:05,937 --> 01:09:08,147
Keeping her birth a secret,

867
01:09:08,188 --> 01:09:11,483
was that a decision
you took with Luc Dumontet?

868
01:09:11,526 --> 01:09:13,903
I don't remember it that way.

869
01:09:13,945 --> 01:09:16,489
- Why didn't he tell anyone?
- I don't know.

870
01:09:16,531 --> 01:09:20,409
Early on, you told him that
your mother would take Lili to Senegal.

871
01:09:20,451 --> 01:09:21,827
I said it as he was worried.

872
01:09:21,869 --> 01:09:23,996
You told him, "She's mine."

873
01:09:24,746 --> 01:09:27,166
Did you decide Lili's future all alone?

874
01:09:27,208 --> 01:09:29,626
The plan to send her to Senegal?

875
01:09:29,669 --> 01:09:32,797
I said that because
Luc didn't want a child at the studio.

876
01:09:32,839 --> 01:09:35,007
- Was Lili ever sick?
- No.

877
01:09:35,049 --> 01:09:36,425
Yes, she was.

878
01:09:36,467 --> 01:09:38,052
She had chicken pox.

879
01:09:38,635 --> 01:09:40,470
Did you take her to the doctor?

880
01:09:42,264 --> 01:09:43,391
No.

881
01:09:45,601 --> 01:09:48,062
Does the Prosecuting Attorney
have any questions?

882
01:09:49,230 --> 01:09:52,441
Ms. Coly, you have strung us along
from the start.

883
01:09:53,985 --> 01:09:57,697
You distance yourself
from the questions asked.

884
01:09:57,738 --> 01:10:01,617
You avoid the awkward questions
and you lie to us.

885
01:10:01,659 --> 01:10:03,286
Do you take us for fools?

886
01:10:04,078 --> 01:10:06,372
You didn't love Luc Dumontet.

887
01:10:06,414 --> 01:10:10,251
You didn't want a child with him,
you didn't want the pregnancy.

888
01:10:10,293 --> 01:10:13,504
You deliberately concealed
the child's existence.

889
01:10:13,921 --> 01:10:17,049
You told nobody about her,
not even your mother.

890
01:10:17,091 --> 01:10:18,509
The truth...

891
01:10:18,551 --> 01:10:22,221
is that you killed the child
because she got in your way.

892
01:10:22,263 --> 01:10:25,433
That's nonsense.
Can you read my mind or my heart?

893
01:10:25,474 --> 01:10:28,519
You think as I might get a life sentence
I'm going to lie?

894
01:10:28,561 --> 01:10:30,021
What have I got to lose?

895
01:10:30,354 --> 01:10:32,523
Please, ma'am, sorcery?

896
01:10:32,565 --> 01:10:34,192
You are lying to yourself.

897
01:10:34,233 --> 01:10:36,068
Yes, I speak of sorcery.

898
01:10:36,402 --> 01:10:38,404
Why would I torment myself like that?

899
01:10:38,446 --> 01:10:39,947
Killing my daughter

900
01:10:39,989 --> 01:10:41,407
ruined my life.

901
01:10:43,075 --> 01:10:44,827
Am I merely being dishonest?

902
01:10:47,330 --> 01:10:49,540
When I speak of sorcery, I'm not lying.

903
01:10:52,460 --> 01:10:55,755
Not even a dead-drunk idiot
would have done what I did.

904
01:10:56,756 --> 01:10:58,633
And they say I'm intelligent.

905
01:10:59,884 --> 01:11:01,677
So why did I do it?

906
01:14:09,198 --> 01:14:10,408
Hello?

907
01:14:10,449 --> 01:14:13,828
Hello, this is reception.
A lady is asking for you.

908
01:14:51,616 --> 01:14:53,075
Hello.

909
01:15:16,766 --> 01:15:19,477
Hello, are you ready to order?

910
01:15:19,519 --> 01:15:22,438
Hello, I'll have the carpaccio.

911
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:24,565
- And you?
- Steak and fries.

912
01:15:24,607 --> 01:15:25,691
OK.

913
01:15:25,733 --> 01:15:27,318
That's a lot.

914
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,445
Why don't you have the fish?

915
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:32,782
And half a pint, please.

916
01:15:32,823 --> 01:15:35,117
- I'll be right back.
- Thank you.

917
01:15:48,881 --> 01:15:51,259
This must be hard for you.

918
01:15:53,052 --> 01:15:54,846
Well, I trust in God.

919
01:15:56,597 --> 01:15:59,183
Have you seen all the press coverage?

920
01:15:59,225 --> 01:16:01,018
It's incredible.

921
01:16:06,065 --> 01:16:07,984
Laurence should be careful.

922
01:16:08,401 --> 01:16:10,653
She was rude this morning.

923
01:16:11,737 --> 01:16:14,407
I don't understand
why her attorney didn't advise her.

924
01:16:15,992 --> 01:16:18,452
It makes a bad impression.

925
01:16:18,494 --> 01:16:21,956
Education and politesse
are the two most important things.

926
01:16:22,832 --> 01:16:25,084
That's how I raised Laurence.

927
01:16:25,126 --> 01:16:26,961
And it always helped her.

928
01:16:27,461 --> 01:16:30,923
People talk about her appearance
and the way she talks.

929
01:16:32,216 --> 01:16:34,218
That means she was well brought up.

930
01:16:34,260 --> 01:16:36,470
- Here you are.
- Thank you.

931
01:16:48,107 --> 01:16:50,401
- Were you born here?
- Yes.

932
01:16:50,902 --> 01:16:52,737
Are your parents here too?

933
01:16:53,237 --> 01:16:55,406
My father's dead but my mother is here.

934
01:16:56,365 --> 01:16:59,410
- Any brothers or sisters?
- I have two sisters.

935
01:17:07,543 --> 01:17:09,462
How many months pregnant are you?

936
01:17:17,261 --> 01:17:18,596
Four months.

937
01:17:20,264 --> 01:17:22,266
I guessed as soon as I saw you.

938
01:17:22,683 --> 01:17:24,685
I'm very good at that.

939
01:17:31,901 --> 01:17:33,027
Here you are.

940
01:17:34,445 --> 01:17:35,738
Enjoy your meal.

941
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,057
No, I said I was planning
to do a thesis.

942
01:18:45,099 --> 01:18:47,268
I never said I was a PhD student.

943
01:18:47,310 --> 01:18:49,437
That's not entirely true, Ms. Coly.

944
01:18:49,478 --> 01:18:52,648
From the start,
you claimed to be a PhD student.

945
01:18:52,690 --> 01:18:55,693
That's what you told everyone,
the police,

946
01:18:55,735 --> 01:18:57,653
Luc Dumontet, your family.

947
01:18:58,821 --> 01:19:01,282
I attended the classes,
for me, it was the same thing.

948
01:19:01,991 --> 01:19:03,326
Mrs. Jobard,

949
01:19:03,367 --> 01:19:06,245
you stated that Ms. Coly,
didn't complete her degree.

950
01:19:06,287 --> 01:19:09,248
That's right.
She didn't complete the year

951
01:19:09,290 --> 01:19:11,375
because she didn't hand in her work.

952
01:19:11,417 --> 01:19:14,754
She sent me an email
saying that she couldn't do it

953
01:19:14,795 --> 01:19:18,049
as she was in hospital in Senegal,
but I didn't believe that.

954
01:19:18,549 --> 01:19:19,926
Ms. Coly?

955
01:19:20,384 --> 01:19:22,303
I don't remember saying that.

956
01:19:22,553 --> 01:19:24,931
What was Ms. Coly like as a student?

957
01:19:24,972 --> 01:19:28,684
What struck me was the ease
and eloquence of her speech

958
01:19:28,726 --> 01:19:31,145
compared to her written work.

959
01:19:31,187 --> 01:19:35,775
She spoke with ease,
but on the page, she wasn't convincing,

960
01:19:35,816 --> 01:19:37,693
as if her thoughts weren't clear.

961
01:19:39,529 --> 01:19:40,780
Ms. Coly,

962
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:46,160
you claimed to be writing a thesis
on Wittgenstein, the philosopher.

963
01:19:46,911 --> 01:19:48,496
Why Wittgenstein?

964
01:19:49,038 --> 01:19:50,248
I don't know.

965
01:19:52,291 --> 01:19:54,919
Mrs. Jobard,
what do you make of this choice?

966
01:19:54,961 --> 01:19:56,170
She is making it up.

967
01:19:57,296 --> 01:20:01,384
What is curious is that Wittgenstein's
is a philosophy of language,

968
01:20:01,425 --> 01:20:06,264
but I think she is hiding behind
a philosophy that is not about her.

969
01:20:06,305 --> 01:20:09,225
What do you mean by,
"A philosophy that is not about her?"

970
01:20:09,976 --> 01:20:14,605
Isn't it rather odd, an African woman
interested in an Austrian philosopher

971
01:20:14,647 --> 01:20:19,402
from the early 20th century, why not
choose someone closer to her own culture?

972
01:20:24,073 --> 01:20:25,825
Thank you, Mrs. Jobard.

973
01:20:31,747 --> 01:20:35,376
You must remain standing
during the proceedings, ma'am.

974
01:20:42,508 --> 01:20:44,802
The university told the investigators

975
01:20:44,844 --> 01:20:48,222
you obtained a general studies diploma
after two years.

976
01:20:48,764 --> 01:20:52,143
After that,
you enrolled for a bachelor's degree,

977
01:20:52,185 --> 01:20:56,564
but you didn't complete it.
So you only have the general diploma.

978
01:20:57,732 --> 01:20:58,774
If you say so.

979
01:20:59,150 --> 01:21:01,277
I told you I attended the classes.

980
01:21:01,319 --> 01:21:04,071
I thought I had a bachelor's degree.

981
01:21:04,113 --> 01:21:07,533
Surely you knew
you didn't have a bachelor's degree.

982
01:21:07,575 --> 01:21:09,869
You didn't turn up for any of the exams.

983
01:21:23,508 --> 01:21:27,512
I was caught in a web of lies
at that time.

984
01:21:31,891 --> 01:21:33,601
Later on, it collapsed.

985
01:21:39,899 --> 01:21:41,400
Any questions?

986
01:21:47,698 --> 01:21:50,493
Ms. Coly, are you talented?

987
01:21:50,743 --> 01:21:52,161
I don't know.

988
01:21:52,203 --> 01:21:55,122
- As a child, were you a good student?
- Yes.

989
01:21:55,831 --> 01:22:00,461
Were you a perfect little girl,
overidealized in your parents' eyes?

990
01:22:00,503 --> 01:22:02,547
I don't know, you should ask them.

991
01:22:02,588 --> 01:22:06,008
What were your secret ambitions
when you came to France?

992
01:22:07,385 --> 01:22:09,178
I wanted to leave my mark.

993
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:13,432
I've always been impressed
by the great thinkers

994
01:22:13,891 --> 01:22:16,519
who shed light on the world
through their thoughts.

995
01:22:17,562 --> 01:22:19,689
I dreamed of becoming
a great philosopher.

996
01:22:20,022 --> 01:22:21,816
My ambition was cut short.

997
01:22:22,358 --> 01:22:23,818
Certain things

998
01:22:25,403 --> 01:22:27,280
made me stray from my path.

999
01:22:30,074 --> 01:22:31,576
No further questions.

1000
01:22:37,415 --> 01:22:39,834
Counselor Darcourt, we are listening.

1001
01:22:41,544 --> 01:22:43,004
Ms. Coly,

1002
01:22:44,005 --> 01:22:46,257
you mentioned a web of lies.

1003
01:22:46,966 --> 01:22:48,759
Have you escaped from it now?

1004
01:22:48,801 --> 01:22:50,720
Isn't the death of my daughter enough?

1005
01:22:51,179 --> 01:22:55,308
I consider your reply intolerable,
it is not worthy.

1006
01:22:55,349 --> 01:22:57,852
And it is unacceptable in a courthouse!

1007
01:22:57,894 --> 01:23:00,688
- Sir, I am being frank.
- It is hard to understand you.

1008
01:23:00,730 --> 01:23:03,232
Your persistent ambiguity...

1009
01:23:03,274 --> 01:23:07,111
I'm not being ambiguous.
Some things, we can't be clear about.

1010
01:23:07,153 --> 01:23:08,404
And...

1011
01:23:10,948 --> 01:23:13,451
If I'm lying, I can't know why.

1012
01:23:18,331 --> 01:23:21,626
Mrs. Diatta,
I'd like to ask you a few questions.

1013
01:23:29,050 --> 01:23:30,343
Mrs. Diatta.

1014
01:23:30,593 --> 01:23:35,431
When Laurence was pregnant, you spoke
twice a week, yet she didn't tell you.

1015
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:38,142
How do you explain that?

1016
01:23:40,144 --> 01:23:41,521
Mrs. Diatta?

1017
01:23:45,149 --> 01:23:47,360
Why do you think she didn't tell you?

1018
01:23:47,902 --> 01:23:51,614
Both during the pregnancy
and after the child was born,

1019
01:23:52,532 --> 01:23:56,953
you never heard any crying or babbling?

1020
01:23:58,454 --> 01:23:59,539
No.

1021
01:24:00,373 --> 01:24:02,041
She didn't tell me.

1022
01:24:02,667 --> 01:24:04,502
I don't understand.

1023
01:24:05,044 --> 01:24:08,172
That void, the void inside her,

1024
01:24:08,214 --> 01:24:10,091
it was made deliberately.

1025
01:24:13,177 --> 01:24:14,971
Before you Westerners,

1026
01:24:15,012 --> 01:24:16,514
I can't explain it.

1027
01:24:16,556 --> 01:24:19,308
Explain what, Mrs. Diatta?

1028
01:24:21,978 --> 01:24:26,232
I came to wonder,
who they wanted to hurt in this case,

1029
01:24:26,858 --> 01:24:28,067
Laurence,

1030
01:24:28,818 --> 01:24:31,195
her father, or me?

1031
01:24:31,946 --> 01:24:33,865
It was all orchestrated.

1032
01:24:34,907 --> 01:24:36,576
I can hear you smiling.

1033
01:24:36,909 --> 01:24:39,537
But it doesn't make me laugh.

1034
01:24:40,371 --> 01:24:42,582
Sorcery was involved, I promise you.

1035
01:24:42,623 --> 01:24:44,333
A curse even.

1036
01:24:44,834 --> 01:24:48,004
Since my daughter left Senegal,
nothing went well for her.

1037
01:24:49,672 --> 01:24:52,884
In my opinion,
nothing else can explain her failure.

1038
01:24:54,135 --> 01:24:56,637
I even have proof of mystical blockages.

1039
01:24:58,097 --> 01:25:01,642
It was no accident that I couldn't
see my daughter for two years.

1040
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:03,895
How about that?

1041
01:25:04,187 --> 01:25:05,813
How do you explain that?

1042
01:25:17,992 --> 01:25:20,912
Would the bailiff bring in
the investigating judge,

1043
01:25:20,953 --> 01:25:23,414
Mr. Simon Jonquet.

1044
01:25:44,227 --> 01:25:47,939
Sir, you were assigned
to investigate Mrs. Coly's case

1045
01:25:47,980 --> 01:25:51,108
when the Public Prosecutor
brought her before the court.

1046
01:25:51,609 --> 01:25:55,071
You interviewed her
on November 20, 2015.

1047
01:25:55,613 --> 01:25:59,825
How did the issue of sorcery
come up during the interview?

1048
01:26:02,828 --> 01:26:07,458
Before me is a woman who killed her baby
in circumstances that are shocking

1049
01:26:07,500 --> 01:26:09,252
by our standards.

1050
01:26:10,086 --> 01:26:14,257
I tried to ascertain whether
the cultural aspect played a part.

1051
01:26:15,299 --> 01:26:17,927
I wondered if there was something
she couldn't say

1052
01:26:17,969 --> 01:26:20,596
and asked her to draw on her culture
to try to explain.

1053
01:26:21,681 --> 01:26:25,393
Sir, do you not think
that you opened the door to sorcery

1054
01:26:25,434 --> 01:26:27,895
and that Ms. Coly dived in?

1055
01:26:30,106 --> 01:26:33,067
Before me stood a woman
of African origin.

1056
01:26:33,109 --> 01:26:36,529
I tried to understand her
with the available elements.

1057
01:26:36,571 --> 01:26:38,364
As with Female Genital Mutilation,

1058
01:26:38,406 --> 01:26:41,993
we cannot judge without taking
the ethnological aspect into account.

1059
01:26:42,451 --> 01:26:47,415
Sir, the example of FGM
has true cultural value,

1060
01:26:47,456 --> 01:26:49,542
killing one's child has none.

1061
01:26:49,584 --> 01:26:51,294
I will be frank, sir,

1062
01:26:51,335 --> 01:26:55,423
I have here, the interview transcripts.

1063
01:26:56,716 --> 01:27:01,596
P32, file reference 421.
It is 3:52 p.m.

1064
01:27:02,054 --> 01:27:03,931
You ask her a question, I quote,

1065
01:27:03,973 --> 01:27:07,143
"Ms. Coly,
do not be ashamed of your culture,

1066
01:27:07,185 --> 01:27:11,063
"if it might help us
to understand your actions."

1067
01:27:11,105 --> 01:27:15,735
She replies, "I am a Cartesian thinker,
I don't believe in all that."

1068
01:27:27,163 --> 01:27:30,124
Ms. Coly begins to evoke
hallucinatory phenomena

1069
01:27:30,166 --> 01:27:34,003
and says she believes her aunts
may have put a curse on her.

1070
01:27:34,045 --> 01:27:39,425
Do you not think you handed her
an easy defense strategy?

1071
01:27:39,467 --> 01:27:41,344
And possibly even worse,

1072
01:27:41,385 --> 01:27:44,347
that you let her become stuck
with the idea of sorcery?

1073
01:27:44,388 --> 01:27:46,432
I strongly oppose that idea.

1074
01:27:46,474 --> 01:27:49,727
I stuck scrupulously
to the rules of criminal procedure.

1075
01:27:51,646 --> 01:27:55,525
I'd like to read you a few extracts
from a conversation recorded

1076
01:27:55,566 --> 01:28:00,112
at Sequedin prison, between Ms. Coly
and her mother, Mrs. Diatta.

1077
01:28:00,905 --> 01:28:02,198
Ms. Coly says,

1078
01:28:03,032 --> 01:28:06,160
"The investigating judge
is buying into it."

1079
01:28:06,827 --> 01:28:09,038
Mrs. Diatta replies, "What do you mean?"

1080
01:28:09,747 --> 01:28:11,499
Laurence Coly replies,

1081
01:28:12,083 --> 01:28:15,086
"The investigating judge
believes it was sorcery.

1082
01:28:15,503 --> 01:28:18,506
"I'm not your run of the mill
infanticide mother,

1083
01:28:18,548 --> 01:28:20,508
"that bothers them.

1084
01:28:20,550 --> 01:28:22,844
"What's funny is that I killed my child,

1085
01:28:22,885 --> 01:28:25,596
"but not in the way people usually do.

1086
01:28:26,848 --> 01:28:29,016
"Before I get a 30-year sentence,

1087
01:28:29,058 --> 01:28:33,062
"they must know who really killed her."

1088
01:30:39,146 --> 01:30:40,606
Fuck!

1089
01:31:19,604 --> 01:31:21,689
Hello, this is Adrien's phone...

1090
01:31:24,901 --> 01:31:27,028
It's me...

1091
01:34:25,831 --> 01:34:27,124
Ms. Coly,

1092
01:34:27,500 --> 01:34:28,960
stand up.

1093
01:34:35,842 --> 01:34:37,343
Ms. Coly,

1094
01:34:38,803 --> 01:34:42,682
what was your state of mind on that day?

1095
01:34:44,475 --> 01:34:47,311
Why did you decide to take the train

1096
01:34:47,979 --> 01:34:52,400
to travel to Berck-sur-Mer
at that precise moment?

1097
01:34:58,322 --> 01:35:00,408
Why did I take the train then?

1098
01:35:01,868 --> 01:35:04,787
One might be tempted to say,
"She's growing up,

1099
01:35:05,913 --> 01:35:08,916
"it's getting complicated,"
but that's not a reason.

1100
01:35:10,710 --> 01:35:12,253
Why Berck?

1101
01:35:13,087 --> 01:35:14,463
Why the sea?

1102
01:35:15,464 --> 01:35:18,342
Because the tide was high enough
at that time of year.

1103
01:35:19,468 --> 01:35:21,512
The tide was very high that day.

1104
01:35:23,890 --> 01:35:26,851
I had decided to go to Berck
the previous evening.

1105
01:35:29,228 --> 01:35:31,022
I took a train there.

1106
01:35:32,565 --> 01:35:34,525
I boarded a bus.

1107
01:35:35,776 --> 01:35:39,113
I asked a charming lady
which hotel was closest to the sea.

1108
01:35:40,031 --> 01:35:41,657
She told me.

1109
01:35:42,575 --> 01:35:44,243
She was a tourist guide.

1110
01:35:46,621 --> 01:35:48,414
I arrived at the hotel.

1111
01:35:49,540 --> 01:35:51,334
I dropped my things off.

1112
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,046
I think I played with Lili for a while.

1113
01:35:55,755 --> 01:35:57,215
I fed her.

1114
01:35:59,550 --> 01:36:02,428
At around 9 p.m., it was dark enough.

1115
01:36:07,225 --> 01:36:08,935
It was high tide.

1116
01:36:11,229 --> 01:36:13,022
The moon rose before me,

1117
01:36:13,272 --> 01:36:16,192
lighting the path like a spotlight.

1118
01:36:18,069 --> 01:36:21,531
I knew the path from the hotel
led to the beach, so I took it.

1119
01:36:23,950 --> 01:36:26,452
It was pitch black
when I got to the beach.

1120
01:36:29,163 --> 01:36:30,498
I rocked her.

1121
01:36:31,290 --> 01:36:32,792
I breastfed her.

1122
01:36:34,544 --> 01:36:35,837
Lili was content.

1123
01:36:37,296 --> 01:36:39,048
She fell asleep in my arms.

1124
01:36:40,842 --> 01:36:42,677
So I laid her on the beach.

1125
01:36:44,095 --> 01:36:45,304
And...

1126
01:36:46,347 --> 01:36:48,599
as she didn't react or make a noise,

1127
01:36:49,559 --> 01:36:50,810
I left.

1128
01:36:54,730 --> 01:36:57,191
I imagined the sea
would carry her body away.

1129
01:37:00,361 --> 01:37:02,238
I went back to the hotel.

1130
01:37:04,574 --> 01:37:06,993
That night, I slept like a log.

1131
01:37:07,827 --> 01:37:09,370
I barely dreamt.

1132
01:37:12,415 --> 01:37:13,958
Ms. Coly,

1133
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,880
when you went down to the beach
that night,

1134
01:37:21,174 --> 01:37:24,427
were you absolutely sure
that the tide was rising?

1135
01:37:25,094 --> 01:37:26,345
Yes.

1136
01:37:27,763 --> 01:37:29,515
I saw the sea coming.

1137
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:34,896
When you were first
questioned by the police, you said

1138
01:37:34,937 --> 01:37:39,025
that you entered the water,
that the water came up to your knees.

1139
01:37:40,568 --> 01:37:41,569
Later on,

1140
01:37:42,361 --> 01:37:45,823
you said you couldn't remember
going into the water.

1141
01:37:48,492 --> 01:37:49,827
That's true.

1142
01:37:51,204 --> 01:37:52,747
I don't remember.

1143
01:37:58,377 --> 01:38:00,087
Prosecuting Attorney.

1144
01:38:04,133 --> 01:38:05,760
Ma'am,

1145
01:38:05,801 --> 01:38:09,138
your amnesia is very convenient.

1146
01:38:10,181 --> 01:38:13,100
The water up to your knees,
that you say you forgot,

1147
01:38:13,142 --> 01:38:18,064
sheds a much harsher light
on the story you have just told.

1148
01:38:18,814 --> 01:38:22,610
Ms. Coly, you are not
on the stage of some theatre,

1149
01:38:22,652 --> 01:38:25,112
you are in a court of law.

1150
01:38:25,154 --> 01:38:28,282
The moon that lights your path
like a spotlight,

1151
01:38:28,324 --> 01:38:31,118
the sea that will carry away her body...

1152
01:38:32,286 --> 01:38:33,704
The truth is

1153
01:38:33,746 --> 01:38:36,290
if the sea had carried away her body,

1154
01:38:36,707 --> 01:38:38,709
nobody would have known

1155
01:38:38,751 --> 01:38:42,964
that a little girl, called Elise,
had disappeared,

1156
01:38:43,005 --> 01:38:46,384
because nobody knew that Elise existed.

1157
01:38:46,425 --> 01:38:49,846
Everything had been set up
so nobody would know she had died.

1158
01:38:49,887 --> 01:38:54,267
You condemned her to anonymity
from the moment she was born.

1159
01:38:54,308 --> 01:38:57,019
Nobody saw you pregnant.

1160
01:38:57,061 --> 01:38:58,646
You never took her out.

1161
01:38:58,688 --> 01:39:02,567
Lili's existence was a total secret
from beginning to end.

1162
01:39:13,536 --> 01:39:18,082
You have one new message,
received today at 1:19 p.m.

1163
01:39:57,830 --> 01:39:59,790
I didn't see the child.

1164
01:40:01,834 --> 01:40:03,377
What child?

1165
01:40:06,005 --> 01:40:07,924
The child, Lili...

1166
01:40:14,931 --> 01:40:16,557
I didn't see her.

1167
01:40:21,187 --> 01:40:23,523
I didn't even think about her.

1168
01:40:24,899 --> 01:40:27,610
I was obsessed with her, with Laurence.

1169
01:40:28,903 --> 01:40:30,905
You can't stay here.

1170
01:40:32,114 --> 01:40:33,699
Rama, listen...

1171
01:40:34,867 --> 01:40:37,870
this case has nothing to do with you,

1172
01:40:38,663 --> 01:40:40,248
or with us.

1173
01:41:02,562 --> 01:41:04,647
I'm scared I'll be like her.

1174
01:41:05,189 --> 01:41:06,732
Like who?

1175
01:41:11,904 --> 01:41:13,447
Like my mother.

1176
01:41:22,707 --> 01:41:25,251
Your mother is a broken woman.

1177
01:41:28,171 --> 01:41:30,339
She is scarred by her own life.

1178
01:41:31,591 --> 01:41:33,134
That's not you.

1179
01:41:34,051 --> 01:41:35,720
That's not your life.

1180
01:45:02,969 --> 01:45:06,430
Members of the jury, this is the story

1181
01:45:06,472 --> 01:45:08,516
of a phantom woman.

1182
01:45:09,392 --> 01:45:11,310
A woman whom nobody sees.

1183
01:45:11,978 --> 01:45:13,437
Whom nobody knows.

1184
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:19,360
It's the story of a slow disappearance.

1185
01:45:19,402 --> 01:45:23,614
A tragic descent into hell,
into which a mother led her child.

1186
01:45:25,199 --> 01:45:27,618
This woman committed the worst crime.

1187
01:45:27,660 --> 01:45:29,412
Infanticide.

1188
01:45:30,329 --> 01:45:33,457
She killed her daughter
and she admits it.

1189
01:45:34,959 --> 01:45:38,504
It is unbearable for us,
beyond comprehension.

1190
01:45:39,213 --> 01:45:43,384
A mother who allows herself to kill
the child she's cherished for 15 months.

1191
01:45:45,052 --> 01:45:47,346
It is easier to see her as a monster.

1192
01:45:47,847 --> 01:45:50,474
A monster must be overcome.

1193
01:45:51,392 --> 01:45:55,104
So you open the volumes of Penal Law
and you find her guilty.

1194
01:45:56,522 --> 01:45:58,983
But if you do that, members of the jury,

1195
01:45:59,942 --> 01:46:02,153
you will have handed down a judgement,

1196
01:46:02,403 --> 01:46:04,864
but you won't have delivered justice.

1197
01:46:05,907 --> 01:46:08,826
You will have answered
only the easiest question.

1198
01:46:09,452 --> 01:46:13,998
Not the one that, as jury members,
you should be asking yourselves.

1199
01:46:15,374 --> 01:46:18,002
If you can't ask yourself this question,

1200
01:46:18,461 --> 01:46:20,296
you will stay on the beach,

1201
01:46:20,630 --> 01:46:22,965
staggered by the horror of the crime.

1202
01:46:24,675 --> 01:46:25,843
Why?

1203
01:46:27,428 --> 01:46:30,723
What made Laurence Coly
kill her daughter

1204
01:46:30,765 --> 01:46:33,518
whom she had loved
and taken care of so well?

1205
01:46:34,477 --> 01:46:36,812
Why didn't she kill her at birth?

1206
01:46:38,314 --> 01:46:41,526
Why did Elise die?

1207
01:46:43,486 --> 01:46:45,071
Elise died

1208
01:46:45,696 --> 01:46:47,448
because her mother is mad.

1209
01:46:48,449 --> 01:46:51,869
And in her madness,
she believed she was protecting her.

1210
01:46:54,789 --> 01:46:58,459
Consider the two extremes of her journey,
if you may.

1211
01:46:59,210 --> 01:47:01,254
Consider this young lady,

1212
01:47:01,295 --> 01:47:04,465
full of ambitions and desires,
arriving in Paris,

1213
01:47:04,966 --> 01:47:06,592
and ask yourself this question,

1214
01:47:07,552 --> 01:47:10,596
how did she become that isolated,

1215
01:47:10,638 --> 01:47:14,433
invisible woman,
hiding in her partner's studio?

1216
01:47:16,185 --> 01:47:18,479
When she moved in with Luc Dumontet,

1217
01:47:19,188 --> 01:47:21,482
Laurence Coly had no financial resources,

1218
01:47:21,858 --> 01:47:24,944
she no longer had a bank account
nor social security cover.

1219
01:47:25,236 --> 01:47:27,446
She wasn't enrolled at the university.

1220
01:47:28,489 --> 01:47:30,616
She started to hear voices.

1221
01:47:31,367 --> 01:47:34,662
She experienced hallucinations,
terrifying dreams,

1222
01:47:34,704 --> 01:47:37,748
strange signs
that she struggled to decipher.

1223
01:47:39,417 --> 01:47:41,836
Other than a few phone calls
with her mother,

1224
01:47:41,878 --> 01:47:44,380
she had no more contact
with the outside world.

1225
01:47:45,590 --> 01:47:48,968
Her loneliness was so palpable

1226
01:47:49,719 --> 01:47:51,387
that she could almost touch it.

1227
01:47:53,306 --> 01:47:56,392
That was when she found out
that she was pregnant

1228
01:47:56,434 --> 01:47:58,686
and would give birth to her daughter.

1229
01:48:01,063 --> 01:48:05,902
In actual fact, Laurence Coly
didn't hide her pregnancy or the birth,

1230
01:48:06,736 --> 01:48:08,487
she hid herself.

1231
01:48:09,238 --> 01:48:11,073
She couldn't allow herself to be seen,

1232
01:48:11,574 --> 01:48:12,909
she was too afraid.

1233
01:48:15,453 --> 01:48:17,496
So, sorcery...

1234
01:48:18,915 --> 01:48:22,210
Sorcery...
a young attorney, even a rookie,

1235
01:48:22,251 --> 01:48:25,880
would destroy a defense strategy
based on sorcery.

1236
01:48:27,089 --> 01:48:29,926
If I mention it now,
it is only to remind you

1237
01:48:29,967 --> 01:48:32,887
of the conclusions
of the psychiatric evaluation.

1238
01:48:33,846 --> 01:48:38,601
Sorcery is just the manifestation
of Laurence Coly's hallucinations.

1239
01:48:39,644 --> 01:48:41,854
This woman needs medical care

1240
01:48:41,896 --> 01:48:44,106
and in prison, she won't receive it.

1241
01:48:44,857 --> 01:48:47,109
Condemning her to a lengthy sentence

1242
01:48:47,151 --> 01:48:49,987
is, strictly speaking,
condemning her to madness.

1243
01:48:54,450 --> 01:48:58,871
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
I will conclude by mentioning something

1244
01:48:58,913 --> 01:49:01,082
that I found deeply touching.

1245
01:49:02,667 --> 01:49:05,670
Laurence Coly learned how to be a mother
on the internet.

1246
01:49:06,587 --> 01:49:08,965
She tried to do the right thing,

1247
01:49:09,423 --> 01:49:11,008
she tried to fight,

1248
01:49:11,634 --> 01:49:12,969
to keep going,

1249
01:49:13,386 --> 01:49:15,054
but she lost.

1250
01:49:16,013 --> 01:49:17,932
There was nobody to help her.

1251
01:49:18,558 --> 01:49:20,393
Nobody could understand.

1252
01:49:21,269 --> 01:49:24,021
And we still don't understand
Laurence Coly.

1253
01:49:25,523 --> 01:49:29,402
Some would have you believe
she's a liar, arrogant,

1254
01:49:29,819 --> 01:49:33,030
a manipulator, in short, a monster.

1255
01:49:34,115 --> 01:49:35,658
But this very morning,

1256
01:49:36,367 --> 01:49:38,327
Laurence told me about a dream,

1257
01:49:38,369 --> 01:49:40,913
in which Elise was with her in prison.

1258
01:49:41,914 --> 01:49:44,167
When I opened the door of her cell,

1259
01:49:44,834 --> 01:49:47,879
Elise ran to hide
under my attorney's gown.

1260
01:49:49,463 --> 01:49:52,592
Laurence knows that her daughter
will always be with her,

1261
01:49:53,759 --> 01:49:55,261
she is inside her.

1262
01:49:56,554 --> 01:49:58,973
What I'm telling you is not poetry,

1263
01:49:59,015 --> 01:50:00,558
it is science.

1264
01:50:01,475 --> 01:50:03,603
We know that during pregnancy,

1265
01:50:03,644 --> 01:50:07,815
the mother's cells and DNA
migrate to the fetus.

1266
01:50:08,649 --> 01:50:11,986
It is less known
that the exchange works both ways.

1267
01:50:12,612 --> 01:50:16,574
The child's cells also migrate
towards the mother's organs.

1268
01:50:16,866 --> 01:50:18,659
They lodge themselves in her body,

1269
01:50:18,993 --> 01:50:21,579
from her brain to her toes.

1270
01:50:22,580 --> 01:50:24,373
Even after birth,

1271
01:50:24,665 --> 01:50:27,543
even if the pregnancy
is not carried to term,

1272
01:50:27,585 --> 01:50:29,295
those cells live on,

1273
01:50:29,337 --> 01:50:31,797
sometimes throughout a woman's life.

1274
01:50:33,633 --> 01:50:36,886
A mother and her child
are thus intertwined

1275
01:50:37,303 --> 01:50:40,598
with one another,
in an inextricable manner.

1276
01:50:41,224 --> 01:50:43,851
It's inevitable, it's biology.

1277
01:50:45,436 --> 01:50:48,773
Do you know what scientists
call these cells?

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01:50:49,357 --> 01:50:51,192
Chimeric cells.

1279
01:50:51,651 --> 01:50:53,986
Like the Chimera, the mythical monster.

1280
01:50:54,820 --> 01:50:58,324
A hybrid creature
composed of different animal parts.

1281
01:50:58,574 --> 01:51:01,410
A lion's head, a goat's body,

1282
01:51:01,827 --> 01:51:03,538
a snake's tail.

1283
01:51:04,664 --> 01:51:05,790
So,

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01:51:06,374 --> 01:51:09,335
members of the jury,
I have come to believe that

1285
01:51:09,377 --> 01:51:11,087
we women,

1286
01:51:11,754 --> 01:51:13,965
we are all chimeras.

1287
01:51:14,674 --> 01:51:17,927
We carry within us,
the traces of our mothers

1288
01:51:17,969 --> 01:51:19,554
and of our daughters,

1289
01:51:19,595 --> 01:51:22,181
who in turn, will carry ours.

1290
01:51:22,807 --> 01:51:24,559
It is a never-ending chain.

1291
01:51:25,643 --> 01:51:28,646
In a way, us women, we are all monsters.

1292
01:51:29,438 --> 01:51:31,983
But we are terribly human monsters.

1293
01:52:28,497 --> 01:52:29,790
Thank you.

1294
01:52:31,792 --> 01:52:33,169
Sorry.

1295
01:57:57,493 --> 01:57:59,120
So tired.

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02:02:40,860 --> 02:02:43,487
Subtitles: Katie Henfrey

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