1 00:00:06,745 --> 00:00:09,313 This is the one, all right? 2 00:00:09,444 --> 00:00:11,315 [dramatic music] 3 00:00:11,402 --> 00:00:15,537 Girls come from a small town or from all over the world 4 00:00:15,624 --> 00:00:19,367 to try to vie for the 12 slots for Playmate of the Month 5 00:00:19,497 --> 00:00:22,326 or that one position of Playmate of the Year. 6 00:00:22,413 --> 00:00:24,720 "Playboy," I've always wanted to be in since I was a kid, 7 00:00:24,850 --> 00:00:27,375 so I'm very excited. 8 00:00:27,462 --> 00:00:29,899 Only a handful will make it. 9 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:31,553 What happens to the rest of them? 10 00:00:31,683 --> 00:00:33,250 ♪ ♪ 11 00:00:33,381 --> 00:00:36,471 In the early '90s, "Playboy" was so popular. 12 00:00:36,601 --> 00:00:39,300 Playmates like Pam Anderson and Jenny McCarthy 13 00:00:39,430 --> 00:00:40,779 were very successful. 14 00:00:40,910 --> 00:00:43,782 So many girls wanted to be a Playmate, 15 00:00:43,913 --> 00:00:47,351 and for one reason or another, they wouldn't make it. 16 00:00:47,438 --> 00:00:50,485 If the girls didn't make the cut at Playboy, 17 00:00:50,615 --> 00:00:52,922 they were shuffled off into the shadow mansions. 18 00:00:53,053 --> 00:00:54,184 ♪ ♪ 19 00:00:54,315 --> 00:00:55,968 Now, the shadow mansions, 20 00:00:56,056 --> 00:00:59,233 my father and the inner circle from Playboy 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,324 created clones of the Playboy Mansion 22 00:01:03,454 --> 00:01:07,241 on a smaller scale to sort of lure these young girls in. 23 00:01:07,328 --> 00:01:08,807 It was very predatory. 24 00:01:08,938 --> 00:01:11,723 These young girls have no idea 25 00:01:11,854 --> 00:01:13,421 what's gonna hit them next. 26 00:01:13,551 --> 00:01:16,206 ♪ ♪ 27 00:01:16,337 --> 00:01:17,773 My name is Hugh Hefner. 28 00:01:17,903 --> 00:01:19,775 I'm editor/publisher of "Playboy" magazine. 29 00:01:19,905 --> 00:01:21,559 When Hugh Hefner was just 27, 30 00:01:21,690 --> 00:01:23,953 he fashioned himself and Playboy 31 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:25,824 as the face of sexual liberation. 32 00:01:25,955 --> 00:01:28,523 Playboy is one of the most famous brand names 33 00:01:28,653 --> 00:01:29,872 in the world. 34 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,308 I would like to be remembered 35 00:01:31,439 --> 00:01:33,267 as somebody who played some positive part 36 00:01:33,397 --> 00:01:37,140 in changing the social-sexual values of my time. 37 00:01:37,227 --> 00:01:41,797 I believe that Hef pulled one over on the whole world. 38 00:01:41,884 --> 00:01:44,669 The fantasy of Playboy that he created 39 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,282 did not allow for the consent of the women. 40 00:01:48,412 --> 00:01:50,110 When it came to Hefner's buddies, 41 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,373 you had to keep those secrets quiet. 42 00:01:52,503 --> 00:01:53,809 What have you got for free? 43 00:01:53,896 --> 00:01:55,941 When you get someone that powerful, 44 00:01:56,072 --> 00:01:58,509 anything could happen-- anything. 45 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,163 The people who were really there-- 46 00:02:00,294 --> 00:02:01,817 they're the ones who know the real truth. 47 00:02:01,904 --> 00:02:04,428 I want to be a voice for the women 48 00:02:04,559 --> 00:02:06,474 that suffered the most at his hands. 49 00:02:06,604 --> 00:02:13,611 ♪ ♪ 50 00:02:18,225 --> 00:02:20,009 He was the ultimate celebrity insider-- 51 00:02:20,096 --> 00:02:22,490 a doctor who took care of Hugh Hefner and had the run 52 00:02:22,620 --> 00:02:24,579 of the Playboy Mansion, but not anymore. 53 00:02:24,666 --> 00:02:27,277 Witnesses say the doctor could end up in jail. 54 00:02:27,408 --> 00:02:28,931 Mark Saginor, 55 00:02:29,018 --> 00:02:32,543 Hefner's personal doctor and party pal for two decades. 56 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:34,763 ♪ ♪ 57 00:02:34,850 --> 00:02:39,115 My father, Mark Saginor, was Hugh Hefner's best friend, 58 00:02:39,246 --> 00:02:43,206 and doctor for about 40 years. 59 00:02:43,293 --> 00:02:44,903 Their friendship was, like, next level. 60 00:02:44,990 --> 00:02:47,471 Like, they were just, like, soul mates. 61 00:02:47,558 --> 00:02:49,995 All the girls would sort of come and go over the years, 62 00:02:50,082 --> 00:02:52,433 but they would remain constant. 63 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,046 Mark was a very prominent, prestigious doctor. 64 00:02:57,177 --> 00:02:58,917 The public should simply be aware 65 00:02:59,004 --> 00:03:01,137 that there are inherent dangers to this. 66 00:03:01,268 --> 00:03:04,445 Dieting without the addition of significant exercise 67 00:03:04,575 --> 00:03:06,882 is just inappropriate. 68 00:03:07,012 --> 00:03:10,277 Mark was given credit for saving Hef's life 69 00:03:10,407 --> 00:03:14,368 when Hef had the stroke back in the mid-'80s. 70 00:03:14,498 --> 00:03:18,502 Dr.. Saginor had carte blanche at the Mansion. 71 00:03:18,633 --> 00:03:21,331 He had the keys to the kingdom 72 00:03:21,462 --> 00:03:23,028 and he took that opportunity 73 00:03:23,159 --> 00:03:25,335 to live his life to the fullest. 74 00:03:25,466 --> 00:03:27,555 Mark and I were friends. 75 00:03:27,685 --> 00:03:32,777 I didn't see the side of Mark that I guess other people saw. 76 00:03:32,908 --> 00:03:35,606 The 19-year-old told police he drugged her, 77 00:03:35,693 --> 00:03:37,913 forced her to perform oral sex. 78 00:03:38,043 --> 00:03:39,262 ♪ ♪ 79 00:03:39,349 --> 00:03:42,526 Back in 2004, my father was partying 80 00:03:42,657 --> 00:03:46,400 at one of the Playboy Mansion parties with a few girls 81 00:03:46,530 --> 00:03:49,316 who ended up going back to his house afterwards. 82 00:03:49,446 --> 00:03:51,448 And I believe, 83 00:03:51,579 --> 00:03:53,842 you know, they were partying there as well. 84 00:03:53,929 --> 00:03:56,018 She said Saginor called in a second man 85 00:03:56,105 --> 00:04:00,152 to take Polaroid photos of her drugged out and seminude. 86 00:04:00,283 --> 00:04:02,329 Saginor was banned from the Playboy Mansion 87 00:04:02,459 --> 00:04:04,940 after he was investigated by the LAPD. 88 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:06,942 ♪ ♪ 89 00:04:07,029 --> 00:04:09,031 Hef, of course, heard this news, 90 00:04:09,161 --> 00:04:12,948 and Hef distanced himself publicly from my father. 91 00:04:13,078 --> 00:04:15,211 ♪ ♪ 92 00:04:15,298 --> 00:04:18,736 He always wanted to be one step removed from every situation 93 00:04:18,867 --> 00:04:20,956 so that nothing would ever come back 94 00:04:21,086 --> 00:04:23,698 as, like, a direct negative reflection on him. 95 00:04:23,785 --> 00:04:26,222 He would actually be trying to convince me 96 00:04:26,353 --> 00:04:29,007 that smoking crack cocaine would cure my asthma. 97 00:04:29,138 --> 00:04:32,097 He's misusing his position as a doctor 98 00:04:32,184 --> 00:04:33,577 and as Hefner's friend. 99 00:04:33,664 --> 00:04:35,797 He's using it to ruin young girls' lives. 100 00:04:35,927 --> 00:04:43,108 ♪ ♪ 101 00:04:43,195 --> 00:04:47,330 My father reacted very poorly to Hef distancing himself, 102 00:04:47,461 --> 00:04:50,246 because he felt that he was the fall guy, 103 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:54,468 and he felt that he was a part of something much bigger. 104 00:04:54,555 --> 00:04:58,646 There are so many other men in Hef's inner circle 105 00:04:58,776 --> 00:05:02,258 who were part of this underground system. 106 00:05:02,389 --> 00:05:06,044 The bigger picture is a operation 107 00:05:06,131 --> 00:05:07,829 that had been in place for many decades. 108 00:05:07,959 --> 00:05:09,134 ♪ ♪ 109 00:05:09,265 --> 00:05:10,658 - All right, here we go, boys. - Now? 110 00:05:10,745 --> 00:05:12,224 - I'm rolling. - 15 in a row. 111 00:05:12,355 --> 00:05:14,009 15 in a row, eh? 112 00:05:14,139 --> 00:05:16,533 [indistinct chatter] 113 00:05:16,664 --> 00:05:17,926 ♪ ♪ 114 00:05:18,013 --> 00:05:19,449 For Hefner 115 00:05:19,536 --> 00:05:22,713 and all the inner circle from the Mansion, 116 00:05:22,844 --> 00:05:23,975 it was a mindset. 117 00:05:24,106 --> 00:05:25,803 It was a mentality of men 118 00:05:25,934 --> 00:05:27,849 who look at women as commodities, 119 00:05:27,979 --> 00:05:31,287 as objects that are disposable. 120 00:05:31,374 --> 00:05:35,813 Girls were another form of a game to these men. 121 00:05:35,944 --> 00:05:37,511 Ooh, ah! 122 00:05:37,598 --> 00:05:39,208 Oh! 123 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:41,166 Fantastic! - That was a good game. 124 00:05:41,297 --> 00:05:44,169 Oh, that was a great one, huh? 125 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:46,520 In the late '70s and the '80s, 126 00:05:46,650 --> 00:05:49,740 there was this place where Hefner and my father 127 00:05:49,871 --> 00:05:51,351 and a lot of the men 128 00:05:51,481 --> 00:05:53,396 in the inner circle from the Mansion 129 00:05:53,483 --> 00:05:58,009 would go enjoy a night out playing games, 130 00:05:58,096 --> 00:06:00,272 and it was called Pips. 131 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,753 Where are the really in places? 132 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:05,408 The best one right now seems to be Pips, 133 00:06:05,495 --> 00:06:07,932 which was started by my man. [chuckles] 134 00:06:08,019 --> 00:06:11,066 It's a discotheque, backgammon club. 135 00:06:11,196 --> 00:06:13,634 Pips was a place that Hefner invested in 136 00:06:13,764 --> 00:06:15,244 along with Bernie Cornfeld, 137 00:06:15,375 --> 00:06:17,333 who was my father's good friend 138 00:06:17,420 --> 00:06:19,335 and was also Hefner's really good friend. 139 00:06:19,422 --> 00:06:21,903 In the front room at Pips, there was a dance floor, 140 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:24,862 and it just looked like a regular club. 141 00:06:24,949 --> 00:06:29,214 And then in the back, there was a private VIP area 142 00:06:29,345 --> 00:06:32,348 for people who were very well-known 143 00:06:32,479 --> 00:06:34,263 or established. 144 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:36,700 Backgammon and Monopoly and poker, 145 00:06:36,787 --> 00:06:38,398 and it was even girls. 146 00:06:38,485 --> 00:06:40,008 I mean, anything you could think of was there 147 00:06:40,095 --> 00:06:41,096 and available. 148 00:06:41,226 --> 00:06:43,620 ♪ ♪ 149 00:06:43,707 --> 00:06:48,103 As a teenager, I had a bedroom myself at the Playboy Mansion, 150 00:06:48,190 --> 00:06:50,366 and I would tag along with the guys 151 00:06:50,497 --> 00:06:51,933 when they'd go to Pips. 152 00:06:52,063 --> 00:06:54,065 ♪ ♪ 153 00:06:54,196 --> 00:06:55,676 Part of my job was running downstairs 154 00:06:55,763 --> 00:06:57,721 and greeting a bunch of the girls 155 00:06:57,808 --> 00:06:59,897 that would pile out of the limo. 156 00:06:59,984 --> 00:07:01,986 They were brought in 157 00:07:02,117 --> 00:07:04,511 almost like you would bring in a backgammon set 158 00:07:04,641 --> 00:07:08,123 or, you know, you'd put chips on the table for poker. 159 00:07:08,210 --> 00:07:10,778 They were just part of the game. 160 00:07:10,865 --> 00:07:12,344 You know, you can bet on a girl like, 161 00:07:12,475 --> 00:07:14,608 "Oh, which one do you want," you know? 162 00:07:14,738 --> 00:07:17,393 If I win something, I get this one. 163 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,265 Who should this one go to? Who gets that one? 164 00:07:20,396 --> 00:07:23,225 It was a system of trading girls. 165 00:07:23,355 --> 00:07:26,271 They were not aware of what was happening to them, 166 00:07:26,402 --> 00:07:28,012 that they were being wagered on 167 00:07:28,143 --> 00:07:31,668 or used as sort of collateral gifts within the games. 168 00:07:31,799 --> 00:07:33,322 ♪ ♪ 169 00:07:33,409 --> 00:07:34,932 The girls that would attend Pips, 170 00:07:35,063 --> 00:07:36,891 some of them could be Playmates. 171 00:07:36,978 --> 00:07:39,981 Some of them were just guests who showed up for the night. 172 00:07:40,068 --> 00:07:42,026 But I think a lot of these young women 173 00:07:42,157 --> 00:07:43,985 were coming from the shadow mansions. 174 00:07:44,115 --> 00:07:46,509 ♪ ♪ 175 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,380 By shadow mansion, 176 00:07:48,511 --> 00:07:51,949 I mean that these men in Hef's inner circle 177 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,083 would try to emulate what he created 178 00:07:55,170 --> 00:07:58,652 in his own empire at the Playboy Mansion. 179 00:07:58,782 --> 00:08:01,045 And they would have smaller versions 180 00:08:01,176 --> 00:08:02,612 of the Playboy Mansions, 181 00:08:02,699 --> 00:08:05,615 which I would refer to as mini mansions. 182 00:08:05,702 --> 00:08:07,574 They would house these young girls 183 00:08:07,704 --> 00:08:09,445 who would come to Los Angeles 184 00:08:09,576 --> 00:08:13,362 looking for opportunities to become actresses or models. 185 00:08:13,493 --> 00:08:16,017 ♪ ♪ 186 00:08:16,104 --> 00:08:18,846 In the '70s, Bernie Cornfeld, 187 00:08:18,933 --> 00:08:20,456 the guy who owned Pips, 188 00:08:20,587 --> 00:08:21,979 was one of the first men 189 00:08:22,110 --> 00:08:24,199 to set up his own shadow mansion. 190 00:08:24,329 --> 00:08:31,336 ♪ ♪ 191 00:08:33,861 --> 00:08:36,864 I have diaries from every year of my life 192 00:08:36,994 --> 00:08:38,692 from the time I was seven. 193 00:08:38,779 --> 00:08:42,260 That's not the one. Here, '73 and '74 right here. 194 00:08:42,347 --> 00:08:44,611 ♪ ♪ 195 00:08:44,698 --> 00:08:48,136 My name is Sharmagne Leland-St. John-Sylbert. 196 00:08:48,223 --> 00:08:51,966 In the early '70s, I had already been a Playboy Bunny, 197 00:08:52,096 --> 00:08:53,707 but I was no longer a bunny. 198 00:08:53,837 --> 00:08:56,318 Instead, I was partners with Bernie 199 00:08:56,405 --> 00:08:59,103 in this modeling agency. 200 00:08:59,190 --> 00:09:01,845 ♪ ♪ 201 00:09:01,976 --> 00:09:04,718 Just up the road a bit from the Playboy Mansion, 202 00:09:04,805 --> 00:09:07,764 there was the house that was called Grayhall, 203 00:09:07,851 --> 00:09:10,201 which was the home of Bernie Cornfeld. 204 00:09:10,332 --> 00:09:13,030 Bernie had a talent agency 205 00:09:13,161 --> 00:09:15,467 for actresses and models, 206 00:09:15,555 --> 00:09:18,122 and he had a dormitory upstairs, 207 00:09:18,253 --> 00:09:20,255 where he would invite these young women 208 00:09:20,342 --> 00:09:21,778 to come and live in his home. 209 00:09:21,909 --> 00:09:23,519 ♪ ♪ 210 00:09:23,606 --> 00:09:25,913 By the time I understood what was going on at Grayhall, 211 00:09:26,043 --> 00:09:29,481 it had already been going on for some time. 212 00:09:29,569 --> 00:09:31,788 Bernie, he would go prowling at night. 213 00:09:31,875 --> 00:09:33,921 He'd go prowling up in the dormitory 214 00:09:34,051 --> 00:09:36,097 and be having sex with the girls up there. 215 00:09:36,184 --> 00:09:39,187 I realized that the modeling agency 216 00:09:39,317 --> 00:09:43,147 apparently fronted for Bernie's sexual appetite. 217 00:09:43,234 --> 00:09:46,716 So, if you moved into the house, you became prey. 218 00:09:46,847 --> 00:09:50,154 You became one of his next conquests. 219 00:09:50,241 --> 00:09:51,808 ♪ ♪ 220 00:09:51,939 --> 00:09:54,898 Bernie Cornfeld had a really nice house, 221 00:09:55,029 --> 00:09:56,552 and we used to shoot there a lot 222 00:09:56,683 --> 00:09:57,945 for "Playboy" magazine. 223 00:09:58,075 --> 00:09:59,076 ♪ ♪ 224 00:09:59,207 --> 00:10:00,861 Marilyn Grabowski, my boss, 225 00:10:00,948 --> 00:10:03,603 was the West Coast photo editor. 226 00:10:03,690 --> 00:10:05,561 She says, "I'm gonna have dinner with Bernie, 227 00:10:05,692 --> 00:10:07,737 and I want you to come with me." 228 00:10:07,824 --> 00:10:10,131 And so I went there. 229 00:10:10,261 --> 00:10:12,176 I said, "Now, let me know when you leave 230 00:10:12,307 --> 00:10:14,309 'cause I'm not staying here without you." 231 00:10:14,396 --> 00:10:17,704 And so I'm sitting at the end of this big living room, 232 00:10:17,791 --> 00:10:20,750 and all of a sudden, I see her walking to the door, 233 00:10:20,881 --> 00:10:22,404 and I'm like... 234 00:10:22,534 --> 00:10:24,798 So I grab my purse, and I start to walk out, 235 00:10:24,928 --> 00:10:26,930 and Bernie goes, "Are you leaving?" 236 00:10:27,061 --> 00:10:29,367 And I said, "Yeah, I got work tomorrow," you know? 237 00:10:29,454 --> 00:10:31,282 And he goes, "Well, I know a better way out 238 00:10:31,413 --> 00:10:33,850 so you don't have to walk all the way to the front door." 239 00:10:33,981 --> 00:10:37,898 And so he walks me into a frickin' bedroom 240 00:10:38,028 --> 00:10:39,421 and throws me down on the bed. 241 00:10:39,508 --> 00:10:42,163 And I'm like, "God damn it, Bernie, let me up!" 242 00:10:42,293 --> 00:10:43,773 And I'm hitting him. 243 00:10:43,860 --> 00:10:46,733 I said, "You know, who do you think I am?" 244 00:10:46,863 --> 00:10:49,649 So he finally lets me go... 245 00:10:49,779 --> 00:10:52,913 and the next day I said to Marilyn, 246 00:10:53,043 --> 00:10:54,610 "How dare you? 247 00:10:54,697 --> 00:10:57,526 "I told you to let me know when you were leaving, 248 00:10:57,613 --> 00:10:59,571 and you didn't do it," you know? 249 00:10:59,702 --> 00:11:03,053 And for a woman to do that to another woman is not right. 250 00:11:03,184 --> 00:11:04,576 That's not cool. 251 00:11:04,664 --> 00:11:08,537 ♪ ♪ 252 00:11:08,668 --> 00:11:12,323 In the '70s, it was just Bernie Cornfeld 253 00:11:12,454 --> 00:11:14,195 and the Grayhall Mansion. 254 00:11:14,325 --> 00:11:15,457 ♪ ♪ 255 00:11:15,544 --> 00:11:17,372 And as time went on, 256 00:11:17,502 --> 00:11:19,026 so many other men 257 00:11:19,156 --> 00:11:21,506 in the inner circle from Playboy 258 00:11:21,637 --> 00:11:24,988 really wanted to emulate Hef's lifestyle. 259 00:11:25,119 --> 00:11:26,947 The shadow-mansion system 260 00:11:27,034 --> 00:11:31,125 really became much larger during the '90s. 261 00:11:31,212 --> 00:11:34,868 It became this predatory movement 262 00:11:34,955 --> 00:11:38,175 where the girls that didn't make the cut at Playboy 263 00:11:38,262 --> 00:11:42,745 were being really shuffled off into this underground system. 264 00:11:42,876 --> 00:11:44,834 ♪ ♪ 265 00:11:53,756 --> 00:11:56,716 So I would like now to introduce you 266 00:11:56,803 --> 00:11:59,109 to our new 1995 Playmate of the Year, 267 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,458 Julie Cialini. 268 00:12:00,589 --> 00:12:03,723 [cheers and applause] 269 00:12:03,810 --> 00:12:07,074 I feel like in the '90s at the Playboy Mansion 270 00:12:07,161 --> 00:12:10,077 was, like, a whole different era. 271 00:12:10,164 --> 00:12:12,296 It was all about more press 272 00:12:12,427 --> 00:12:14,342 and bringing attention 273 00:12:14,429 --> 00:12:17,127 to the women of Playboy, 274 00:12:17,214 --> 00:12:19,129 and that's definitely not anything that happened 275 00:12:19,216 --> 00:12:20,217 in the '80s. 276 00:12:20,304 --> 00:12:21,741 [dramatic music] 277 00:12:21,871 --> 00:12:24,918 The women in the '80s at Playboy, 278 00:12:25,005 --> 00:12:28,922 I believe they didn't really have as much of a voice. 279 00:12:29,009 --> 00:12:32,186 It was more about keeping them enclosed, you know, 280 00:12:32,273 --> 00:12:35,145 within the Mansion community and culture. 281 00:12:35,232 --> 00:12:38,018 And then as the '90s came about, 282 00:12:38,105 --> 00:12:39,759 there was a shift. 283 00:12:39,889 --> 00:12:42,762 Though millions buy the magazine and video cassettes, 284 00:12:42,849 --> 00:12:45,547 much of the Playboy mystique has come to an end. 285 00:12:45,634 --> 00:12:48,768 Hefner's private plane, the "Big Bunny," sold. 286 00:12:48,855 --> 00:12:51,161 Playboy's casinos, closed. 287 00:12:51,248 --> 00:12:53,468 Hefner's bachelorhood, endangered. 288 00:12:53,555 --> 00:12:56,950 He says he's getting hitched, to a centerfold, of course. 289 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,561 As you reached into the '90s, 290 00:12:59,691 --> 00:13:01,519 it was a big, big change. 291 00:13:01,606 --> 00:13:03,086 ♪ ♪ 292 00:13:03,173 --> 00:13:05,523 Still in the AIDS epidemic. 293 00:13:05,610 --> 00:13:08,048 And in that time, 294 00:13:08,135 --> 00:13:11,225 the party kind of ended, I mean, for everybody. 295 00:13:11,355 --> 00:13:13,880 So maybe it was time 296 00:13:13,967 --> 00:13:17,057 for Hef to settle down a little bit. 297 00:13:17,144 --> 00:13:20,756 Hugh Hefner, do you take Kimberly Conrad, 298 00:13:20,843 --> 00:13:24,064 here present, to be your wife? 299 00:13:24,194 --> 00:13:26,066 I do. 300 00:13:26,153 --> 00:13:27,763 Hef settled down 301 00:13:27,850 --> 00:13:31,680 in the midst of this pandemic. 302 00:13:31,811 --> 00:13:33,377 It was a sad day for all of us. 303 00:13:33,508 --> 00:13:34,857 [laughing] 304 00:13:34,988 --> 00:13:36,859 You didn't need to be a fortune teller 305 00:13:36,946 --> 00:13:39,906 to see that his lifestyle was going to take a drastic turn. 306 00:13:40,036 --> 00:13:42,430 Yeah, it is more of like a family house. 307 00:13:42,517 --> 00:13:44,084 You know, they all have to get their sleep now. 308 00:13:44,171 --> 00:13:45,302 [laughs] 309 00:13:47,957 --> 00:13:49,350 Oh, during the Kimberly years? 310 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,526 Oh, hell, no. [chuckles] 311 00:13:51,656 --> 00:13:53,745 Hef did not hit on any of the Playmates. 312 00:13:53,876 --> 00:13:55,443 Kimberly's presence 313 00:13:55,530 --> 00:13:57,619 was definitely known around the Mansion. 314 00:13:57,706 --> 00:14:00,317 As far as talking to him, 315 00:14:00,404 --> 00:14:01,971 we were told that's a good way 316 00:14:02,058 --> 00:14:05,061 to get yourself blacklisted from the Mansion. 317 00:14:05,192 --> 00:14:07,150 You know, if we saw him coming one way, 318 00:14:07,237 --> 00:14:08,586 we'd go the other way. 319 00:14:08,673 --> 00:14:09,849 ♪ ♪ 320 00:14:09,936 --> 00:14:11,851 The irony of the '90s 321 00:14:11,981 --> 00:14:15,071 is that the Mansion was sort of shut down to the public, 322 00:14:15,158 --> 00:14:18,858 and yet there was more opportunities for women, 323 00:14:18,945 --> 00:14:21,425 and then these women happened to have personalities, 324 00:14:21,512 --> 00:14:23,601 where they really stepped into those opportunities 325 00:14:23,732 --> 00:14:25,168 and owned it. 326 00:14:25,299 --> 00:14:27,692 [photographers chattering] 327 00:14:27,779 --> 00:14:29,999 I first started going to the Mansion with my friend 328 00:14:30,086 --> 00:14:32,262 Anna Nicole Smith. 329 00:14:32,349 --> 00:14:34,569 Anna Nicole was the it girl at the Mansion 330 00:14:34,656 --> 00:14:36,440 and all through the '90s. 331 00:14:36,527 --> 00:14:39,139 She was Playmate of the Month, 1992. 332 00:14:39,269 --> 00:14:40,880 Anna. [applause] 333 00:14:40,967 --> 00:14:43,447 And then she became Playmate of the Year, '93. 334 00:14:43,578 --> 00:14:45,754 I feel like the '90s in Los Angeles 335 00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:47,669 and especially the Playboy Mansion 336 00:14:47,756 --> 00:14:50,150 is defined by someone like Anna Nicole Smith. 337 00:14:50,237 --> 00:14:51,629 ♪ ♪ 338 00:14:51,716 --> 00:14:54,110 It's a big check. [laughter] 339 00:14:54,241 --> 00:14:57,026 During the year that she was becoming Playmate of the Year, 340 00:14:57,113 --> 00:14:59,550 she became an international sort of sensation 341 00:14:59,637 --> 00:15:01,465 with the campaign for GUESS. 342 00:15:01,552 --> 00:15:02,814 ♪ ♪ 343 00:15:02,945 --> 00:15:05,382 And then you have Jenny McCarthy, 344 00:15:05,469 --> 00:15:06,862 Pamela Anderson. 345 00:15:06,993 --> 00:15:08,995 These women are sort of branding themselves 346 00:15:09,082 --> 00:15:11,084 outside the Mansion. 347 00:15:11,171 --> 00:15:13,695 I did my first cover for "Playboy" in October of '89, 348 00:15:13,782 --> 00:15:16,089 and I've got "Baywatch" now. 349 00:15:16,176 --> 00:15:17,699 It's so exciting. It's great. 350 00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:20,354 All of a sudden, the public was noticing them. 351 00:15:20,484 --> 00:15:23,357 It became a lot more mainstream and acceptable 352 00:15:23,444 --> 00:15:25,272 to be a Playmate. 353 00:15:25,402 --> 00:15:28,318 When you see somebody make it really big because of Playboy, 354 00:15:28,405 --> 00:15:30,494 like Pam Anderson and Jenny McCarthy and stuff, 355 00:15:30,581 --> 00:15:32,279 you're like, "Wow. 356 00:15:32,366 --> 00:15:33,758 "Like, look at all the opportunities that it brings 357 00:15:33,845 --> 00:15:35,717 and how amazing that is." 358 00:15:35,804 --> 00:15:38,067 And I was like, "I want that." 359 00:15:38,198 --> 00:15:41,636 As a result, women flock to Los Angeles from all over 360 00:15:41,723 --> 00:15:42,985 trying to become Playmates. 361 00:15:43,072 --> 00:15:46,119 This sophomore is into advertising, 362 00:15:46,206 --> 00:15:49,339 and she is not ashamed of trying out for Playboy 363 00:15:49,426 --> 00:15:53,648 ♪ ♪ 364 00:15:53,735 --> 00:15:55,128 People come from other places 365 00:15:55,258 --> 00:15:58,174 trying to be the celebrity or the star. 366 00:15:58,305 --> 00:16:00,350 That's their dream, and they're wishing for it, 367 00:16:00,481 --> 00:16:02,700 but the competition is so stiff 368 00:16:02,787 --> 00:16:04,441 to be a Playmate. 369 00:16:04,572 --> 00:16:07,009 So that handful makes it. 370 00:16:07,096 --> 00:16:09,577 The rest slip through the cracks 371 00:16:09,664 --> 00:16:13,320 and get preyed on by whomever is out there, 372 00:16:13,407 --> 00:16:15,235 knowing that they didn't make the cut. 373 00:16:15,322 --> 00:16:18,107 ♪ ♪ 374 00:16:18,238 --> 00:16:21,981 In the '90s, I believe that these men around Hef 375 00:16:22,111 --> 00:16:24,461 saw a very big opportunity. 376 00:16:24,548 --> 00:16:26,594 For many years, 377 00:16:26,681 --> 00:16:30,119 Hef had different men who were out there recruiting. 378 00:16:30,250 --> 00:16:32,469 My father was a scout. 379 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,820 They would put ads out in the different newspapers. 380 00:16:35,907 --> 00:16:38,084 "Want to be a Playmate? Do you want to be a model?" 381 00:16:38,171 --> 00:16:39,563 ♪ ♪ 382 00:16:39,694 --> 00:16:41,391 And when you moved into the '90s, 383 00:16:41,478 --> 00:16:43,437 the scouts would be circulating 384 00:16:43,524 --> 00:16:45,352 throughout the nightclubs in Los Angeles, 385 00:16:45,439 --> 00:16:47,180 'cause all the young girls 386 00:16:47,310 --> 00:16:49,269 that would come from out of town would obviously show up 387 00:16:49,356 --> 00:16:50,792 at the nightclubs. 388 00:16:50,879 --> 00:16:53,012 And they would number the level of girl 389 00:16:53,099 --> 00:16:54,404 that they would meet. 390 00:16:54,491 --> 00:16:56,015 ♪ ♪ 391 00:16:56,102 --> 00:16:59,366 If they were super hot and, you know, great physique 392 00:16:59,453 --> 00:17:01,455 and they were, like, a ten, 393 00:17:01,585 --> 00:17:04,327 then they would be brought to the Mansion 394 00:17:04,458 --> 00:17:06,025 and brought to a party 395 00:17:06,155 --> 00:17:08,810 and given maybe an opportunity to pose in "Playboy." 396 00:17:08,940 --> 00:17:11,378 And then you have nine. 397 00:17:11,465 --> 00:17:12,944 That was maybe given, 398 00:17:13,075 --> 00:17:14,990 you know, a lesser opportunity, 399 00:17:15,077 --> 00:17:16,861 but still would be introduced to people 400 00:17:16,992 --> 00:17:20,256 that could possibly bring her career to the next level. 401 00:17:20,343 --> 00:17:22,041 And then you have the girls that are, like, you know, 402 00:17:22,128 --> 00:17:23,433 the sevens and the eights. 403 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,000 ♪ ♪ 404 00:17:25,131 --> 00:17:27,916 These girls didn't make the cut for Playboy, 405 00:17:28,003 --> 00:17:30,527 but you don't want to just throw away nice girls. 406 00:17:30,614 --> 00:17:31,963 They're still pretty. 407 00:17:32,094 --> 00:17:34,183 You know, "What can we do with them?" 408 00:17:34,270 --> 00:17:37,882 These scouts would invite these girls 409 00:17:37,969 --> 00:17:39,971 to these mini mansions 410 00:17:40,102 --> 00:17:42,409 for these modeling-agency parties 411 00:17:42,496 --> 00:17:44,063 and offer them a place to live 412 00:17:44,193 --> 00:17:46,326 and offer them modeling contracts. 413 00:17:46,413 --> 00:17:47,805 ♪ ♪ 414 00:17:47,936 --> 00:17:50,982 The young girls believed an opportunity 415 00:17:51,070 --> 00:17:53,376 to really move your dreams forward, 416 00:17:53,463 --> 00:17:56,858 when, in fact, it was really just all a facade. 417 00:17:56,988 --> 00:17:59,295 Very quickly they're crossing boundaries 418 00:17:59,426 --> 00:18:01,906 that they never thought that they would cross. 419 00:18:01,993 --> 00:18:03,778 Once you're on this path, 420 00:18:03,865 --> 00:18:06,128 it's very hard to find your way out. 421 00:18:06,259 --> 00:18:07,260 ♪ ♪ 422 00:18:16,660 --> 00:18:18,401 [dramatic music] 423 00:18:18,488 --> 00:18:20,751 - We're ready to go. - Copy. All right. 424 00:18:20,838 --> 00:18:22,840 [speaking indistinctly] 425 00:18:22,927 --> 00:18:24,538 ♪ ♪ 426 00:18:24,668 --> 00:18:26,235 I'm Rachel Myers, 427 00:18:26,322 --> 00:18:30,805 and I was a guest at many of the Playboy Mansion parties. 428 00:18:30,935 --> 00:18:32,459 When I first moved to L.A., 429 00:18:32,546 --> 00:18:35,723 I was working at a clothing store in Beverly Hills. 430 00:18:35,810 --> 00:18:39,727 Two older gentlemen came in and said to me, 431 00:18:39,857 --> 00:18:42,860 "Would you like to attend the Playboy Mansion party? 432 00:18:42,947 --> 00:18:46,690 If so, I can get you in. You have to see someone." 433 00:18:46,777 --> 00:18:48,823 ♪ ♪ 434 00:18:48,910 --> 00:18:51,695 I went to someone's house. 435 00:18:51,782 --> 00:18:55,351 This is someone in the inner circle at the Playboy Mansion, 436 00:18:55,438 --> 00:18:59,573 and I was told that the way to get into the Playboy Mansion 437 00:18:59,703 --> 00:19:02,402 was to show my boobs. 438 00:19:02,489 --> 00:19:05,622 ♪ ♪ 439 00:19:05,753 --> 00:19:08,059 I don't know. I just did it. 440 00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:10,279 ♪ ♪ 441 00:19:10,366 --> 00:19:13,064 Photos were taken, and there were photos 442 00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:15,893 on the table of multiple women, 443 00:19:16,024 --> 00:19:18,287 and so I just thought it was normal. 444 00:19:18,374 --> 00:19:22,726 And so that's how I got into the Playboy Mansion. 445 00:19:22,813 --> 00:19:24,424 ♪ ♪ 446 00:19:24,511 --> 00:19:27,470 At the Mansion, I went with an older gentleman 447 00:19:27,557 --> 00:19:29,951 who picked me up in a limo. 448 00:19:30,038 --> 00:19:32,475 I was actually brought to Hugh Hefner's table 449 00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:34,869 and introduced to Hugh. 450 00:19:34,956 --> 00:19:38,307 And I met some other older men, 451 00:19:38,394 --> 00:19:41,571 and they would invite me to the mini mansions. 452 00:19:41,658 --> 00:19:43,138 ♪ ♪ 453 00:19:43,225 --> 00:19:46,010 The mini mansions were similar parties 454 00:19:46,097 --> 00:19:49,623 to the Playboy Mansion parties on a lower scale. 455 00:19:49,753 --> 00:19:52,800 I would see the same guys at the mini mansions 456 00:19:52,887 --> 00:19:55,672 that I would see at the Playboy Mansion. 457 00:19:55,803 --> 00:19:58,588 So I think there was definitely a learned behavior 458 00:19:58,719 --> 00:20:01,678 from the Mansion to the mini mansions. 459 00:20:01,765 --> 00:20:03,898 These men got some ideas 460 00:20:03,985 --> 00:20:07,467 on how to manipulate women. 461 00:20:07,554 --> 00:20:09,208 ♪ ♪ 462 00:20:09,295 --> 00:20:11,906 The experience I had at the mini-mansion parties 463 00:20:11,993 --> 00:20:14,387 is immediately walking in, 464 00:20:14,474 --> 00:20:16,780 having all the men glom on to you 465 00:20:16,911 --> 00:20:19,740 offering you, you know, lines of coke 466 00:20:19,827 --> 00:20:22,786 or a bowl of, you know, ecstasy. 467 00:20:22,917 --> 00:20:24,440 If you refuse those, 468 00:20:24,571 --> 00:20:26,442 they're trying to shove champagne in your face. 469 00:20:26,529 --> 00:20:28,183 You know, who knows what's in the champagne, 470 00:20:28,270 --> 00:20:30,620 if they've dropped anything in there? 471 00:20:30,751 --> 00:20:32,318 I've just seen it too many times. 472 00:20:32,405 --> 00:20:34,015 ♪ ♪ 473 00:20:34,102 --> 00:20:37,627 I just would refrain and get my own drink or my own water 474 00:20:37,758 --> 00:20:39,977 and make sure I opened it myself, 475 00:20:40,064 --> 00:20:42,719 and that's how I avoided being prey. 476 00:20:42,850 --> 00:20:45,679 So that's the first red flag. 477 00:20:45,766 --> 00:20:47,594 Second red flag is they're promising you, 478 00:20:47,681 --> 00:20:49,378 to come to this party, 479 00:20:49,465 --> 00:20:51,250 you're going to get a modeling contract. 480 00:20:51,337 --> 00:20:54,731 At the mini mansions, these men had come up to me 481 00:20:54,862 --> 00:20:56,167 and given me their cards 482 00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:58,909 and told me that they would sign me. 483 00:20:58,996 --> 00:21:02,130 Who's signing a contract at night at a party? 484 00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:03,784 So the grooming that's happening 485 00:21:03,871 --> 00:21:05,612 at these mini-mansion parties 486 00:21:05,699 --> 00:21:09,180 is pretty obviously not for modeling. 487 00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:10,834 ♪ ♪ 488 00:21:10,921 --> 00:21:13,837 At these parties, in many of the rooms, 489 00:21:13,968 --> 00:21:15,622 they were, like, you know, setting up 490 00:21:15,752 --> 00:21:18,233 these, like, fake photo shoots where the girls would feel 491 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,453 like they were being given this opportunity 492 00:21:20,540 --> 00:21:21,541 to be a model. 493 00:21:21,628 --> 00:21:23,020 ♪ ♪ 494 00:21:23,151 --> 00:21:25,066 Maybe they were given a drink to relax 495 00:21:25,196 --> 00:21:28,025 and then whenever that sort of would kick in, 496 00:21:28,156 --> 00:21:31,115 then the girls were, like, posing 497 00:21:31,202 --> 00:21:32,203 without their clothes on. 498 00:21:32,334 --> 00:21:34,205 ♪ ♪ 499 00:21:34,336 --> 00:21:36,251 I just remember walking in on them 500 00:21:36,338 --> 00:21:38,297 and being, like, horrified. 501 00:21:38,384 --> 00:21:41,038 These girls were clearly drugged 502 00:21:41,125 --> 00:21:43,476 and not coherent. 503 00:21:43,563 --> 00:21:44,912 Maybe they would also 504 00:21:44,999 --> 00:21:47,654 have somebody, like, videotaping them, 505 00:21:47,741 --> 00:21:51,397 and then that videotape could be used as blackmail, 506 00:21:51,484 --> 00:21:55,139 so they wouldn't tell anyone or so that they'd sort of fall 507 00:21:55,226 --> 00:21:59,753 into this underground system of being available. 508 00:21:59,883 --> 00:22:02,756 Basically, any powerful, wealthy man in Los Angeles 509 00:22:02,843 --> 00:22:04,540 who was on the guest list 510 00:22:04,627 --> 00:22:06,629 to attend the mini-mansion parties 511 00:22:06,716 --> 00:22:08,762 was given an opportunity 512 00:22:08,849 --> 00:22:11,982 to pay the owners of the mini mansions. 513 00:22:12,113 --> 00:22:14,898 "Spending time with her" is code for "having sex with her." 514 00:22:14,985 --> 00:22:18,859 ♪ ♪ 515 00:22:18,946 --> 00:22:20,643 I think many of the girls stayed 516 00:22:20,774 --> 00:22:23,385 in the mini-mansion system because they were scared 517 00:22:23,472 --> 00:22:25,692 of being blackmailed with videotapes. 518 00:22:25,779 --> 00:22:28,782 I believe others really didn't have other opportunities, 519 00:22:28,912 --> 00:22:31,654 and they thought that perhaps if they would just sleep 520 00:22:31,741 --> 00:22:33,917 with this next guy and get it over with 521 00:22:34,004 --> 00:22:36,442 that they could offer you a certain opportunity. 522 00:22:36,529 --> 00:22:37,965 ♪ ♪ 523 00:22:38,095 --> 00:22:39,836 It's very hard for me 524 00:22:39,923 --> 00:22:43,144 to look back on those times 525 00:22:43,274 --> 00:22:44,972 because it's something 526 00:22:45,059 --> 00:22:49,150 that I don't necessarily want to remember or admit, 527 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,934 but it was a part of my life. 528 00:22:51,021 --> 00:22:52,762 ♪ ♪ 529 00:22:52,849 --> 00:22:55,504 As a young girl, I was molested, 530 00:22:55,635 --> 00:22:58,202 so I probably detached from my body at a young age. 531 00:22:58,333 --> 00:23:02,293 And so having that trauma... 532 00:23:02,424 --> 00:23:05,035 ♪ ♪ 533 00:23:05,122 --> 00:23:06,950 Made it easier... [chuckles] 534 00:23:07,037 --> 00:23:08,822 ♪ ♪ 535 00:23:08,909 --> 00:23:11,651 'Cause I didn't own my body, someone else did. 536 00:23:11,738 --> 00:23:13,130 ♪ ♪ 537 00:23:13,261 --> 00:23:17,787 I would say to my younger self now 538 00:23:17,874 --> 00:23:21,661 to not use your body for opportunities. 539 00:23:21,748 --> 00:23:28,842 ♪ ♪ 540 00:23:28,972 --> 00:23:33,237 In the '90s, there was at least six or seven guys 541 00:23:33,324 --> 00:23:35,805 that I knew in Hef's inner circle 542 00:23:35,936 --> 00:23:39,200 that ended up setting up these shadow mansions... 543 00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:40,810 guys like Peter Nygard. 544 00:23:40,897 --> 00:23:42,072 ♪ ♪ 545 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:43,770 For decades, Peter Nygard 546 00:23:43,857 --> 00:23:45,685 has been fashion royalty. 547 00:23:45,772 --> 00:23:48,339 I met Peter Nygaard about 30 years ago 548 00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:50,603 at one of the mini-mansion parties. 549 00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:53,649 He wanted to be the next Hef. 550 00:23:53,736 --> 00:23:55,477 He would roll over to the Mansion 551 00:23:55,564 --> 00:23:58,045 and just go see Hef and hang out. 552 00:23:58,132 --> 00:23:59,176 They'd play cards. 553 00:23:59,263 --> 00:24:00,700 ♪ ♪ 554 00:24:00,787 --> 00:24:04,355 Peter Nygard has a house in Marina del Rey. 555 00:24:04,486 --> 00:24:06,836 It's huge. It's, like, on the beach. 556 00:24:06,967 --> 00:24:10,274 When I went to a party at Peter Nygard's house, 557 00:24:10,405 --> 00:24:13,147 he tried to pull down my top, kiss my boob, and kiss me. 558 00:24:13,277 --> 00:24:14,627 And I was like, "What are you doing?" 559 00:24:14,757 --> 00:24:17,368 Like, Peter Nygard is a predator. 560 00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:20,850 The news is completely true, what they're saying about him. 561 00:24:20,937 --> 00:24:23,418 The FBI calls Nygard a predator, 562 00:24:23,549 --> 00:24:25,855 and they allege he sexually assaulted dozens, 563 00:24:25,942 --> 00:24:29,032 if not hundreds, of women and girls over a 25-year period. 564 00:24:29,163 --> 00:24:31,426 ♪ ♪ 565 00:24:31,513 --> 00:24:34,734 When I was in L.A. doing the shooting for Playboy, 566 00:24:34,864 --> 00:24:37,432 Nygard called me up. 567 00:24:37,563 --> 00:24:39,042 I'm sure that he got the information from Playboy. 568 00:24:39,129 --> 00:24:40,740 I mean, where else? 569 00:24:40,827 --> 00:24:43,307 I was stupid enough to go to his house 570 00:24:43,394 --> 00:24:45,048 when I was invited there. 571 00:24:45,135 --> 00:24:46,267 ♪ ♪ 572 00:24:46,354 --> 00:24:49,444 He was hinting about anal sex, 573 00:24:49,575 --> 00:24:52,578 like certain kind of things that he really liked. 574 00:24:52,708 --> 00:24:56,233 And what he said to me was the same allegations 575 00:24:56,364 --> 00:24:59,019 that women were telling about him. 576 00:24:59,149 --> 00:25:03,980 He held me down, and he sodomized me. 577 00:25:04,111 --> 00:25:06,896 I didn't know what to do. 578 00:25:06,983 --> 00:25:09,420 I had never felt that kind of pain before, 579 00:25:09,551 --> 00:25:11,074 and I was scared 580 00:25:11,161 --> 00:25:13,294 ♪ ♪ 581 00:25:13,424 --> 00:25:15,514 When I was there, he probably could have raped me 582 00:25:15,644 --> 00:25:17,516 or drugged me or something. 583 00:25:17,603 --> 00:25:21,432 I was really lucky to be able to escape that situation. 584 00:25:21,563 --> 00:25:28,527 ♪ ♪ 585 00:25:36,099 --> 00:25:37,666 Oh, I think Hef knew 586 00:25:37,797 --> 00:25:39,668 definitely what was going on at the parties, 587 00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:41,061 because most of the people 588 00:25:41,148 --> 00:25:43,237 throwing the mini-mansion parties 589 00:25:43,324 --> 00:25:44,717 had partied at the Mansion. 590 00:25:44,804 --> 00:25:46,545 That's really what it is. 591 00:25:46,632 --> 00:25:49,156 Of course Hefner's aware of the system. 592 00:25:49,286 --> 00:25:51,811 All of his friends were, you know, housing these girls, 593 00:25:51,941 --> 00:25:53,639 and they were the ones who owned the mini mansions. 594 00:25:53,769 --> 00:25:54,727 ♪ ♪ 595 00:25:54,814 --> 00:25:56,642 In the '80s and '90s, 596 00:25:56,729 --> 00:25:59,819 even my father's house was a mini mansion, 597 00:25:59,906 --> 00:26:01,690 a shadow mansion. 598 00:26:01,821 --> 00:26:04,214 There were so many different young models 599 00:26:04,301 --> 00:26:06,303 living at my father's house. 600 00:26:06,434 --> 00:26:08,305 Bernie Cornfeld and these different men 601 00:26:08,392 --> 00:26:10,090 who owned their own shadow mansions 602 00:26:10,177 --> 00:26:11,744 would stop by my father's house 603 00:26:11,874 --> 00:26:13,136 to sort of check out the cattle. 604 00:26:13,223 --> 00:26:14,921 ♪ ♪ 605 00:26:15,051 --> 00:26:19,055 And then in 2004, my father was made the fall guy 606 00:26:19,186 --> 00:26:21,928 for this mini-mansion system. 607 00:26:22,015 --> 00:26:25,714 Hef then publicly distanced himself from my father. 608 00:26:25,801 --> 00:26:29,762 My father was Hefner's very good friend of 40 years, 609 00:26:29,849 --> 00:26:31,981 and he was really upset 610 00:26:32,112 --> 00:26:34,723 that Hef would sort of turn his back on him 611 00:26:34,810 --> 00:26:37,334 in that moment publicly. 612 00:26:37,465 --> 00:26:39,249 At the time, I didn't understand 613 00:26:39,336 --> 00:26:42,165 why he felt so betrayed. 614 00:26:42,252 --> 00:26:46,605 It led me to reevaluate their relationship. 615 00:26:46,692 --> 00:26:49,912 I started to connect the dots over the decades. 616 00:26:54,351 --> 00:26:56,005 That it was much more than a friendship. 617 00:26:56,136 --> 00:26:58,617 ♪ ♪ 618 00:27:07,582 --> 00:27:10,324 [applause] 619 00:27:10,454 --> 00:27:11,891 Say, aren't you Brigham Young? 620 00:27:11,978 --> 00:27:12,979 I am. 621 00:27:13,109 --> 00:27:14,981 - The man with 50 wives? - I am. 622 00:27:15,111 --> 00:27:17,200 The man with 240 children? 623 00:27:17,287 --> 00:27:19,899 - I am. - Why, you should be hung. 624 00:27:19,986 --> 00:27:21,248 I am. 625 00:27:21,335 --> 00:27:25,600 [cheers and applause] 626 00:27:25,731 --> 00:27:28,211 In my mind, for many years, 627 00:27:28,342 --> 00:27:32,651 my father and Hef were in a very close friendship 628 00:27:32,738 --> 00:27:34,217 for many, many decades. 629 00:27:34,348 --> 00:27:35,828 [dramatic music] 630 00:27:35,958 --> 00:27:39,266 What I've realized over time is that their connection 631 00:27:39,353 --> 00:27:42,661 was much more than just best friends. 632 00:27:42,748 --> 00:27:46,403 It's my personal belief that the love of Hef's life 633 00:27:46,534 --> 00:27:47,404 was my father. 634 00:27:47,535 --> 00:27:49,668 ♪ ♪ 635 00:27:49,755 --> 00:27:51,495 Over the years, 636 00:27:51,582 --> 00:27:55,325 my father, you know, really gave up his family life, 637 00:27:55,412 --> 00:27:58,981 his practice to be with him. 638 00:27:59,112 --> 00:28:00,461 I don't know many men 639 00:28:00,548 --> 00:28:03,246 who just basically give up their own life 640 00:28:03,333 --> 00:28:06,293 and then move into some other man's house. 641 00:28:06,380 --> 00:28:09,252 So, during my tenure at the Playboy Mansion, 642 00:28:09,383 --> 00:28:12,125 as far as Dr. Saginor and Mr. Hefner, 643 00:28:12,212 --> 00:28:14,562 I experienced those two becoming very close. 644 00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:16,433 I remember 645 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,131 "A Midsummer Night's Dream" party, 646 00:28:18,261 --> 00:28:21,308 and I noticed that, you know, Mr. Hefner, 647 00:28:21,438 --> 00:28:22,962 Mr. Hefner's girlfriend, 648 00:28:23,092 --> 00:28:24,877 and Dr. Saginor 649 00:28:25,007 --> 00:28:26,226 made their way up to the bedroom-- 650 00:28:26,356 --> 00:28:28,881 Bedroom One-- that's Mr. Hefner's room. 651 00:28:28,968 --> 00:28:30,447 You could paint the picture 652 00:28:30,534 --> 00:28:33,146 I don't know, but they didn't come back down. 653 00:28:33,276 --> 00:28:36,323 You have admitted to some homosexual curiosities. 654 00:28:36,410 --> 00:28:39,021 How serious have any of those dalliances been? 655 00:28:39,108 --> 00:28:40,936 Not serious at all. 656 00:28:41,067 --> 00:28:44,070 When you're involved in the swing period 657 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,681 or the orgy period of the '70s, 658 00:28:46,768 --> 00:28:50,206 there was more than a little bisexuality. 659 00:28:50,337 --> 00:28:53,383 Mark became his best friend. 660 00:28:53,470 --> 00:28:56,909 They took things really far. 661 00:28:56,996 --> 00:28:59,476 They became more than best friends. 662 00:28:59,563 --> 00:29:01,783 ♪ ♪ 663 00:29:01,914 --> 00:29:03,524 Yeah. 664 00:29:03,654 --> 00:29:06,483 Yeah, they became that. 665 00:29:06,570 --> 00:29:09,704 My father and Hef had a spiritual connection 666 00:29:09,835 --> 00:29:13,752 that I don't believe any of these wives or girlfriends 667 00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:15,492 could ever compete against. 668 00:29:15,579 --> 00:29:16,929 ♪ ♪ 669 00:29:17,059 --> 00:29:18,713 They had a physical relationship 670 00:29:18,844 --> 00:29:21,281 in the context of these different orgies. 671 00:29:21,411 --> 00:29:24,110 The orgy sort of started as something 672 00:29:24,197 --> 00:29:26,547 that was an opportunity for people 673 00:29:26,634 --> 00:29:29,724 to sort of experience their open sexuality, 674 00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:32,335 and then that sort of turned into something 675 00:29:32,422 --> 00:29:34,816 that was a little bit more sinister. 676 00:29:34,903 --> 00:29:37,732 It was just more of a transaction 677 00:29:37,863 --> 00:29:39,560 that was exciting 678 00:29:39,647 --> 00:29:42,693 and that probably stemmed from their own childhood. 679 00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:44,565 ♪ ♪ 680 00:29:44,695 --> 00:29:47,176 Growing up, they were both these weird, nerdy guys 681 00:29:47,263 --> 00:29:49,526 who didn't date a lot of women. 682 00:29:49,613 --> 00:29:50,571 ♪ ♪ 683 00:29:50,658 --> 00:29:52,573 So having control and power 684 00:29:52,660 --> 00:29:55,881 over these types of women at the Mansion 685 00:29:55,968 --> 00:29:58,666 was something that is very exciting. 686 00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:01,234 You know, the breaking down of a woman, 687 00:30:01,321 --> 00:30:03,714 Watching them sort of fall into something 688 00:30:03,845 --> 00:30:06,021 where they're now doing something 689 00:30:06,152 --> 00:30:07,849 that maybe thought they would never do. 690 00:30:07,936 --> 00:30:09,242 Maybe they're crossing boundaries 691 00:30:09,329 --> 00:30:11,984 that they never thought that they would cross. 692 00:30:12,071 --> 00:30:14,813 There's some kind of rush in that. 693 00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:16,205 And then it's like anything. 694 00:30:16,292 --> 00:30:17,554 You know, once you have something, 695 00:30:17,641 --> 00:30:19,339 you need, you know, more of that 696 00:30:19,469 --> 00:30:21,994 to sort of create the same feeling. 697 00:30:22,081 --> 00:30:25,214 "So how do we recruit more girls like this," you know? 698 00:30:25,301 --> 00:30:27,260 How do we bring in fresh meat?" 699 00:30:27,347 --> 00:30:29,610 The bigger the situations they created, 700 00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:32,308 the more their energy was on the girls, 701 00:30:32,395 --> 00:30:34,571 seducing them into the world 702 00:30:34,658 --> 00:30:37,574 and really just breaking them down. 703 00:30:37,661 --> 00:30:39,663 ♪ ♪ 704 00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:42,623 And that, over time, I believe, 705 00:30:42,753 --> 00:30:46,932 became something that turned into a bigger picture. 706 00:30:47,019 --> 00:30:47,976 ♪ ♪ 707 00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:49,673 When you moved into the '90s 708 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,675 when Hef married Kimberly 709 00:30:51,762 --> 00:30:55,114 and all the big orgies shut down at the Mansion, 710 00:30:55,244 --> 00:30:56,855 all of a sudden, we're taking the party elsewhere. 711 00:31:00,815 --> 00:31:01,990 - Yeah. - They moved. 712 00:31:02,121 --> 00:31:03,035 At Mark's, yeah. - Yeah. 713 00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:06,429 - Yeah. - Yeah. 714 00:31:06,516 --> 00:31:07,953 He only went to my father's house, 715 00:31:08,083 --> 00:31:09,911 'cause they're still partying and doing-- 716 00:31:10,042 --> 00:31:12,479 you know, they're "partying" together. 717 00:31:12,566 --> 00:31:14,481 I mean, you can't just stop the machine, right? 718 00:31:14,611 --> 00:31:16,439 The machine must go on, and that is something 719 00:31:16,570 --> 00:31:19,616 that was now taking place off the property. 720 00:31:19,703 --> 00:31:21,792 ♪ ♪ 721 00:31:21,923 --> 00:31:24,404 One time I remember being in a limo 722 00:31:24,491 --> 00:31:26,928 with Hef and Anna Nicole. 723 00:31:27,059 --> 00:31:30,018 We were heading to a mini-mansion party 724 00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:31,541 at Mark Saginor's house. 725 00:31:31,628 --> 00:31:34,109 At the party, it just seemed 726 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,633 like all the girls were on the menu. 727 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,548 There was, like, 10, 15 girls 728 00:31:38,635 --> 00:31:40,550 living at my father's house. 729 00:31:40,681 --> 00:31:44,946 Literally, they would just come one by one down the staircase. 730 00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:46,861 Even Anna Nicole-- 731 00:31:46,948 --> 00:31:48,819 I got the feeling when we were at the party 732 00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:52,171 that she was up for grabs for whoever. 733 00:31:52,258 --> 00:31:54,695 Anna Nicole was right around 30 at the time. 734 00:31:54,825 --> 00:31:56,001 Hef made some comment, 735 00:31:56,088 --> 00:31:59,439 like, you know, she's being phased out. 736 00:31:59,526 --> 00:32:01,310 That's how it works, 737 00:32:01,441 --> 00:32:03,704 even for someone like Anna Nicole Smith. 738 00:32:03,834 --> 00:32:06,794 They're used for a certain period of time. 739 00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:08,839 They are then easily disposable. 740 00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:10,537 ♪ ♪ 741 00:32:10,624 --> 00:32:13,409 I believe that there's something exciting 742 00:32:13,496 --> 00:32:16,021 in meeting these young girls 743 00:32:16,108 --> 00:32:17,892 that will come from small towns 744 00:32:18,023 --> 00:32:20,721 that still kind of had that light in them 745 00:32:20,808 --> 00:32:24,855 and watching them slowly burn that light out. 746 00:32:24,986 --> 00:32:27,946 ♪ ♪ 747 00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:38,957 [dramatic music] 748 00:32:39,044 --> 00:32:41,089 In the '90s, 749 00:32:41,176 --> 00:32:44,092 once I moved into my father's house, 750 00:32:44,179 --> 00:32:47,400 he had these different pictures of women 751 00:32:47,487 --> 00:32:50,446 who were on all fours naked 752 00:32:50,533 --> 00:32:53,536 with a leash around the girl's neck. 753 00:32:53,623 --> 00:32:55,451 When I would try to say something to him, he was like, 754 00:32:55,538 --> 00:32:57,366 "Well, they actually like to be submissive." 755 00:32:57,453 --> 00:33:00,065 They want to be dominated. 756 00:33:00,152 --> 00:33:02,154 He was on drugs at the time 757 00:33:02,241 --> 00:33:04,983 and offering drugs to these young girls. 758 00:33:05,070 --> 00:33:06,985 ♪ ♪ 759 00:33:07,072 --> 00:33:09,552 I remember walking into his bedroom 760 00:33:09,639 --> 00:33:14,862 and seeing these young girls really incoherent, 761 00:33:14,949 --> 00:33:19,562 and he would be, you know, injecting them with something. 762 00:33:19,649 --> 00:33:24,306 I grew up watching these girls come in looking one way 763 00:33:24,393 --> 00:33:26,961 and slowly becoming 764 00:33:27,092 --> 00:33:29,572 someone that they probably don't even recognize. 765 00:33:29,659 --> 00:33:31,966 ♪ ♪ 766 00:33:32,053 --> 00:33:34,142 One of the girls who was spending time 767 00:33:34,229 --> 00:33:36,014 at my father's house for a while, 768 00:33:36,101 --> 00:33:38,103 her name was Paulina. 769 00:33:38,190 --> 00:33:43,108 She came here from Europe, wanted to become a model, 770 00:33:43,195 --> 00:33:47,547 and she's someone who I became friends with instantly. 771 00:33:47,634 --> 00:33:49,157 She was just so sweet and nice 772 00:33:49,244 --> 00:33:51,333 and had such a light in her spirit. 773 00:33:51,420 --> 00:33:53,118 ♪ ♪ 774 00:33:53,205 --> 00:33:56,338 At one of the parties-- I believe it was in Malibu. 775 00:33:56,425 --> 00:33:58,645 Again, it was one of the fake modeling-agency parties. 776 00:33:58,732 --> 00:34:01,735 She was really high. 777 00:34:01,822 --> 00:34:05,130 She kept looking for a guy to help her get coke. 778 00:34:05,217 --> 00:34:06,870 She's found the next guy, 779 00:34:06,957 --> 00:34:09,177 and she went in the bathroom with him, 780 00:34:09,264 --> 00:34:11,788 and they did a bunch of blow, I believe. 781 00:34:11,875 --> 00:34:14,313 ♪ ♪ 782 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,793 For the longest time, nobody came out. 783 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,317 ♪ ♪ 784 00:34:18,404 --> 00:34:20,406 I walked in on the bathroom 785 00:34:20,493 --> 00:34:23,235 and saw her laying down in a pool of blood. 786 00:34:23,322 --> 00:34:25,672 ♪ ♪ 787 00:34:25,759 --> 00:34:27,804 I was scared. I didn't know what to do. 788 00:34:27,891 --> 00:34:29,980 And so I started screaming for help. 789 00:34:30,111 --> 00:34:31,765 No one came. 790 00:34:31,852 --> 00:34:33,636 And then all of a sudden, 791 00:34:33,723 --> 00:34:37,466 the owner of this particular mini mansion called security. 792 00:34:37,553 --> 00:34:41,514 Security came and literally picked up her lifeless body 793 00:34:41,601 --> 00:34:45,300 and brought it into, like, the back. 794 00:34:45,387 --> 00:34:47,563 And I'm like, "Wait a minute. Where are you taking her?" 795 00:34:47,650 --> 00:34:50,088 And they're like, "We got it from here, kid." 796 00:34:50,175 --> 00:34:51,567 ♪ ♪ 797 00:34:51,698 --> 00:34:54,092 And I never saw her again. 798 00:34:54,179 --> 00:34:56,833 ♪ ♪ 799 00:34:56,964 --> 00:34:59,140 [knock at door] 800 00:34:59,227 --> 00:35:02,709 Many months later, there was a knock at my father's door, 801 00:35:02,796 --> 00:35:05,886 and there was this cute little old man. 802 00:35:05,973 --> 00:35:08,454 He pulled out, like, a Polaroid picture, 803 00:35:08,541 --> 00:35:10,934 and he said, "You know, have you seen my daughter? 804 00:35:11,021 --> 00:35:12,284 Her name is Paulina." 805 00:35:12,371 --> 00:35:15,504 ♪ ♪ 806 00:35:15,591 --> 00:35:17,724 I was conditioned from such a young age, of course, 807 00:35:17,854 --> 00:35:19,595 to be loyal to the men, 808 00:35:19,682 --> 00:35:21,336 and so the last thing I'm gonna do 809 00:35:21,423 --> 00:35:24,557 is be honest with this man 810 00:35:24,644 --> 00:35:28,387 about what I saw happen to his daughter. 811 00:35:28,474 --> 00:35:30,650 And so I just said, "No," you know, 812 00:35:30,737 --> 00:35:33,261 "I haven't seen Paulina. 813 00:35:33,348 --> 00:35:35,307 Maybe you have the wrong house." 814 00:35:35,394 --> 00:35:37,178 ♪ ♪ 815 00:35:37,265 --> 00:35:40,312 And he put his head down, and, you know, he walked away. 816 00:35:40,399 --> 00:35:44,054 ♪ ♪ 817 00:35:44,185 --> 00:35:46,361 I was too scared to say anything myself 818 00:35:46,448 --> 00:35:48,581 or to tell anybody. 819 00:35:48,711 --> 00:35:52,498 I just I feel guilty that I watched these young girls, 820 00:35:52,585 --> 00:35:55,196 you know, many of them... 821 00:35:55,283 --> 00:35:58,156 that were drugged and... 822 00:35:58,243 --> 00:36:00,767 I just knew what was gonna happen to them, 823 00:36:00,897 --> 00:36:02,334 and I didn't do anything. 824 00:36:02,421 --> 00:36:04,423 ♪ ♪ 825 00:36:04,510 --> 00:36:06,816 How old were you at this point? 826 00:36:06,903 --> 00:36:09,428 Um... 827 00:36:09,515 --> 00:36:11,647 I mean, it was all the years. 828 00:36:11,734 --> 00:36:13,693 [chuckles] 829 00:36:16,174 --> 00:36:20,178 I feel guilty that I was there attending these parties 830 00:36:20,308 --> 00:36:22,528 and having fun, and, you know, 831 00:36:22,615 --> 00:36:24,356 and I thought it was fun. 832 00:36:24,443 --> 00:36:25,966 I did have fun. 833 00:36:26,053 --> 00:36:28,708 But it's devastating 834 00:36:28,795 --> 00:36:30,492 that these young girls were basically-- 835 00:36:30,579 --> 00:36:33,408 their spirits were really sucked out of them, 836 00:36:33,495 --> 00:36:36,977 and that's something that I can relate to. 837 00:36:37,064 --> 00:36:39,327 I thought since I was the doctor's daughter 838 00:36:39,458 --> 00:36:42,025 that I was protected, I was shielded, you know, 839 00:36:42,112 --> 00:36:45,115 against being taken advantage of. 840 00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:48,771 And then these same experiences happened to me 841 00:36:48,858 --> 00:36:50,686 that happened to so many of these girls. 842 00:36:50,773 --> 00:36:53,559 ♪ ♪ 843 00:36:53,646 --> 00:36:55,430 As a teenager, 844 00:36:55,517 --> 00:36:59,129 I turned to one of my father's friends for advice 845 00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:01,393 and showed up at his house. 846 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,351 ♪ ♪ 847 00:37:03,438 --> 00:37:05,353 He ended up offering me a drink 848 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,399 and putting something in my drink. 849 00:37:07,486 --> 00:37:10,402 ♪ ♪ 850 00:37:10,489 --> 00:37:13,796 Before I knew it, I was, you know, out of body 851 00:37:13,883 --> 00:37:16,408 and came to with him trying to have sex with me... 852 00:37:16,495 --> 00:37:18,018 ♪ ♪ 853 00:37:18,105 --> 00:37:20,238 Telling me I had to take my, like, clothes off, 854 00:37:20,325 --> 00:37:21,543 and I was in his bed, 855 00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:25,243 and the whole thing was so horrific. 856 00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:28,942 ♪ ♪ 857 00:37:29,029 --> 00:37:31,597 For me, growing up in that setting, 858 00:37:31,727 --> 00:37:35,296 I was the only female that's welcomed into this boys' club. 859 00:37:35,427 --> 00:37:36,863 You know, I felt good about myself. 860 00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:39,082 I felt special and different. 861 00:37:39,169 --> 00:37:41,520 And really at the end of the day, I'm not. 862 00:37:41,607 --> 00:37:43,086 I'm just the same as, you know, 863 00:37:43,173 --> 00:37:45,088 any other girl who's coming to Los Angeles 864 00:37:45,175 --> 00:37:47,221 who's, you know-- 865 00:37:47,308 --> 00:37:51,007 who eventually is gonna be sucked up by the system. 866 00:37:51,094 --> 00:37:53,096 ♪ ♪ 867 00:38:03,368 --> 00:38:06,284 [dramatic music] 868 00:38:06,371 --> 00:38:07,807 ♪ ♪ 869 00:38:07,894 --> 00:38:10,418 He's misusing his position as a doctor 870 00:38:10,549 --> 00:38:12,638 and as Hefner's friend. 871 00:38:12,725 --> 00:38:15,467 He's using it to ruin young girls' lives. 872 00:38:15,554 --> 00:38:17,077 ♪ ♪ 873 00:38:17,164 --> 00:38:20,733 Over the years, I've seen it so much-- 874 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:24,606 girls who were subject to... 875 00:38:24,693 --> 00:38:26,869 these--especially the mini mansions, 876 00:38:26,956 --> 00:38:30,569 but, you know, really taken in, you know, and their innocence 877 00:38:30,656 --> 00:38:33,572 and their spirits were really sucked out of them. 878 00:38:33,659 --> 00:38:35,225 ♪ ♪ 879 00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:37,097 In 2004, 880 00:38:37,184 --> 00:38:40,448 when the girls made claims against my father, 881 00:38:40,535 --> 00:38:42,581 his medical license was suspended 882 00:38:42,668 --> 00:38:44,322 for a short period of time. 883 00:38:44,409 --> 00:38:48,195 Mark Saginor is not allowed to practice medicine 884 00:38:48,282 --> 00:38:51,285 because he is a danger to his patients. 885 00:38:51,416 --> 00:38:53,635 It was definitely a turning point for my father. 886 00:38:53,722 --> 00:38:57,944 He checked into rehab. He became sober. 887 00:38:58,074 --> 00:38:59,641 During that time period 888 00:38:59,728 --> 00:39:02,122 when Hef distanced himself publicly 889 00:39:02,209 --> 00:39:05,647 Hef and my father still spoke on the phone 890 00:39:05,734 --> 00:39:08,911 and then they did start spending time together again, 891 00:39:09,042 --> 00:39:13,351 especially towards the end of Hef's life. 892 00:39:13,438 --> 00:39:15,788 When Hef was passing, 893 00:39:15,875 --> 00:39:18,660 the one that was by his side in the end was my father. 894 00:39:18,747 --> 00:39:22,751 ♪ ♪ 895 00:39:22,838 --> 00:39:24,318 After Hefner passed, 896 00:39:24,405 --> 00:39:28,844 my father decided to marry a young woman he met in rehab. 897 00:39:28,931 --> 00:39:30,977 ♪ ♪ 898 00:39:31,064 --> 00:39:33,588 I remember showing up to this wedding, 899 00:39:33,675 --> 00:39:36,286 and it was so surreal 900 00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:41,814 to see these giant, blown-up posters on easels 901 00:39:41,944 --> 00:39:45,687 of Hefner and Mary O'Connor and Keith Hefner. 902 00:39:45,774 --> 00:39:47,472 ♪ ♪ 903 00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:50,736 My father and this woman were at the altar, 904 00:39:50,823 --> 00:39:53,391 and I remember my father, 905 00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:55,958 you know, asked for this moment of silence 906 00:39:56,089 --> 00:40:01,573 within the group to honor and remember Hef. 907 00:40:01,660 --> 00:40:06,665 And he asked the orchestra who is there to please play, 908 00:40:06,752 --> 00:40:09,624 you know, Hefner's favorite song. 909 00:40:09,711 --> 00:40:13,236 And my father, you know, had tears at the altar. 910 00:40:13,323 --> 00:40:14,934 ♪ ♪ 911 00:40:15,021 --> 00:40:18,198 And I just remember being 912 00:40:18,285 --> 00:40:21,636 just so, you know, surprised this was happening. 913 00:40:21,767 --> 00:40:23,769 Like, we're basically celebrating somebody 914 00:40:23,856 --> 00:40:25,292 who's not here. 915 00:40:25,379 --> 00:40:27,512 We're celebrating Hef. 916 00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:29,122 ♪ ♪ 917 00:40:29,209 --> 00:40:32,778 And I just remember looking at everybody. 918 00:40:32,865 --> 00:40:35,041 All the Mansion regulars were there 919 00:40:35,171 --> 00:40:36,434 with their Playboy pins, 920 00:40:36,521 --> 00:40:39,741 and there was just something about it 921 00:40:39,828 --> 00:40:41,961 that just reminded me 922 00:40:42,048 --> 00:40:44,833 of being in this sort of, like, private cult. 923 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,315 Everyone in this environment put Hef on a pedestal 924 00:40:48,402 --> 00:40:51,492 and everything he believed in on a pedestal. 925 00:40:51,579 --> 00:40:53,799 I just felt alone. 926 00:40:53,886 --> 00:40:56,236 I felt like I was the only one 927 00:40:56,323 --> 00:40:59,282 seeing Playboy for what it is. 928 00:40:59,369 --> 00:41:01,459 ♪ ♪ 929 00:41:01,546 --> 00:41:04,462 When I see this, it reiterates in my mind even more 930 00:41:04,592 --> 00:41:07,029 that it wasn't about connection. 931 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,554 I do believe that with all these men, 932 00:41:09,641 --> 00:41:12,339 it was really about knowing 933 00:41:12,426 --> 00:41:16,169 that you had power over someone else. 934 00:41:16,256 --> 00:41:19,868 And my father, although he played a role, 935 00:41:19,955 --> 00:41:23,785 he still wasn't the master puppeteer. 936 00:41:23,872 --> 00:41:26,701 One man did this-- Hugh Hefner. 937 00:41:26,788 --> 00:41:28,964 Instead of giving the young women 938 00:41:29,051 --> 00:41:31,358 the right to consent to any of it, 939 00:41:31,445 --> 00:41:32,925 he simply took it. 940 00:41:33,012 --> 00:41:35,057 When I was 18 years old, 941 00:41:35,144 --> 00:41:38,191 I didn't get the opportunity that night in Hef's room 942 00:41:38,278 --> 00:41:40,236 to make any choice. 943 00:41:40,367 --> 00:41:43,762 People should know he was not a hero. 944 00:41:43,849 --> 00:41:47,417 He was a predator. That's what he was. 945 00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:51,683 Let's get it out in the open. It's time to talk about it. 946 00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:53,685 ♪ ♪ 947 00:42:30,417 --> 00:42:31,940 For God sakes, 948 00:42:32,027 --> 00:42:34,508 it's time for the Playboy women to come forward. 949 00:42:34,595 --> 00:42:36,554 This whole thing that had to be a secret, 950 00:42:36,641 --> 00:42:39,557 I've got to tell somebody. 951 00:42:39,644 --> 00:42:41,254 It wasn't just Hefner's buddies, 952 00:42:41,341 --> 00:42:42,516 the big VIPs. 953 00:42:42,603 --> 00:42:44,518 It was Hugh Hefner himself. 954 00:42:44,605 --> 00:42:46,346 I think he hated women underneath it all. 955 00:42:46,476 --> 00:42:48,087 It was a total giveaway 956 00:42:48,174 --> 00:42:51,264 when he brought out his skeleton key and he told me, 957 00:42:51,351 --> 00:42:54,006 why wouldn't I want a key to every room in this house? 958 00:42:54,093 --> 00:42:56,051 There was nothing in the relationship with Dorothy 959 00:42:56,138 --> 00:42:57,531 that I am less than proud of. 960 00:42:57,662 --> 00:43:00,534 Dorothy Stratten-- she was psychically destroyed. 961 00:43:00,665 --> 00:43:03,015 Hold Hef accountable. 962 00:43:03,102 --> 00:43:06,105 Hefner was a sexual predator... 963 00:43:06,235 --> 00:43:10,109 that didn't care who he damaged.