1 00:00:04,572 --> 00:00:07,906 - This is the one, all right? 2 00:00:08,009 --> 00:00:09,608 [dramatic music] 3 00:00:09,710 --> 00:00:13,679 - girls come from a small town or from all over the world 4 00:00:13,781 --> 00:00:17,583 to try to vie for the 12 slots for playmate of the month 5 00:00:17,685 --> 00:00:20,519 or that one position of playmate of the year. 6 00:00:20,621 --> 00:00:21,854 - "playboy," I've always wanted to be in since I was a kid, 7 00:00:21,956 --> 00:00:25,624 so I'm very excited. 8 00:00:25,726 --> 00:00:27,826 - Only a handful will make it. 9 00:00:27,928 --> 00:00:28,227 What happens to the rest of them? 10 00:00:28,329 --> 00:00:31,063 ♪ ♪ 11 00:00:31,165 --> 00:00:34,166 - in the early '90s, "playboy" was so popular. 12 00:00:34,268 --> 00:00:37,102 - Playmates like pam anderson and jenny mccarthy 13 00:00:37,204 --> 00:00:38,404 were very successful. 14 00:00:38,506 --> 00:00:40,472 - So many girls wanted to be a playmate, 15 00:00:40,574 --> 00:00:44,710 and for one reason or another, they wouldn't make it. 16 00:00:44,812 --> 00:00:47,813 - If the girls didn't make the cut at playboy, 17 00:00:47,915 --> 00:00:50,582 they were shuffled off into the shadow mansions. 18 00:00:50,684 --> 00:00:51,483 ♪ ♪ 19 00:00:51,585 --> 00:00:53,152 now, the shadow mansions, 20 00:00:53,254 --> 00:00:56,188 my father and the inner circle from playboy 21 00:00:56,290 --> 00:01:00,392 created clones of the playboy mansion 22 00:01:00,494 --> 00:01:03,996 on a smaller scale to sort of lure these young girls in. 23 00:01:04,098 --> 00:01:05,764 It was very predatory. 24 00:01:05,866 --> 00:01:07,833 These young girls have no idea 25 00:01:07,935 --> 00:01:10,536 what's gonna hit them next. 26 00:01:10,638 --> 00:01:11,937 ♪ ♪ 27 00:01:12,039 --> 00:01:13,906 - my name is hugh hefner. 28 00:01:14,008 --> 00:01:16,408 I'm editor/publisher of "playboy" magazine. 29 00:01:16,510 --> 00:01:17,376 - When hugh hefner was just 27, 30 00:01:17,478 --> 00:01:20,479 he fashioned himself and playboy 31 00:01:20,581 --> 00:01:21,613 as the face of sexual liberation. 32 00:01:21,715 --> 00:01:24,049 - Playboy is one of the most famous brand names 33 00:01:24,151 --> 00:01:26,051 in the world. 34 00:01:26,153 --> 00:01:27,586 - I would like to be remembered 35 00:01:27,688 --> 00:01:28,787 as somebody who played some positive part 36 00:01:28,889 --> 00:01:32,925 in changing the social-sexual values of my time. 37 00:01:33,027 --> 00:01:37,796 - I believe that hef pulled one over on the whole world. 38 00:01:37,898 --> 00:01:40,599 - The fantasy of playboy that he created 39 00:01:40,701 --> 00:01:43,402 did not allow for the consent of the women. 40 00:01:43,504 --> 00:01:45,971 - When it came to hefner's buddies, 41 00:01:46,073 --> 00:01:47,940 you had to keep those secrets quiet. 42 00:01:48,042 --> 00:01:49,541 - What have you got for free? 43 00:01:49,643 --> 00:01:51,677 - When you get someone that powerful, 44 00:01:51,779 --> 00:01:53,145 anything could happen-- anything. 45 00:01:53,247 --> 00:01:55,714 - The people who were really there-- 46 00:01:55,816 --> 00:01:56,715 they're the ones who know the real truth. 47 00:01:56,817 --> 00:01:59,885 - I want to be a voice for the women 48 00:01:59,987 --> 00:02:02,020 that suffered the most at his hands. 49 00:02:02,123 --> 00:02:09,061 ♪ ♪ 50 00:02:12,533 --> 00:02:15,000 - he was the ultimate celebrity insider-- 51 00:02:15,102 --> 00:02:17,503 a doctor who took care of hugh hefner and had the run 52 00:02:17,605 --> 00:02:19,438 of the playboy mansion, but not anymore. 53 00:02:19,540 --> 00:02:22,441 Witnesses say the doctor could end up in jail. 54 00:02:22,543 --> 00:02:23,709 - Mark saginor, 55 00:02:23,811 --> 00:02:25,711 hefner's personal doctor and party pal for two decades. 56 00:02:25,813 --> 00:02:29,515 ♪ ♪ 57 00:02:29,617 --> 00:02:33,652 - my father, mark saginor, was hugh hefner's best friend, 58 00:02:33,754 --> 00:02:37,623 and doctor for about 40 years. 59 00:02:37,725 --> 00:02:38,590 Their friendship was, like, next level. 60 00:02:38,692 --> 00:02:41,660 Like, they were just, like, soul mates. 61 00:02:41,762 --> 00:02:44,129 All the girls would sort of come and go over the years, 62 00:02:44,231 --> 00:02:46,598 but they would remain constant. 63 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:50,135 - Mark was a very prominent, prestigious doctor. 64 00:02:50,237 --> 00:02:52,905 - The public should simply be aware 65 00:02:53,007 --> 00:02:55,107 that there are inherent dangers to this. 66 00:02:55,209 --> 00:02:58,677 Dieting without the addition of significant exercise 67 00:02:58,779 --> 00:03:00,679 is just inappropriate. 68 00:03:00,781 --> 00:03:04,016 - Mark was given credit for saving hef's life 69 00:03:04,118 --> 00:03:07,886 when hef had the stroke back in the mid-'80s. 70 00:03:07,988 --> 00:03:10,989 - Dr.. Saginor had carte blanche at the mansion. 71 00:03:11,091 --> 00:03:14,793 He had the keys to the kingdom 72 00:03:14,895 --> 00:03:16,495 and he took that opportunity 73 00:03:16,597 --> 00:03:18,664 to live his life to the fullest. 74 00:03:18,766 --> 00:03:20,766 - Mark and I were friends. 75 00:03:20,868 --> 00:03:25,871 I didn't see the side of mark that I guess other people saw. 76 00:03:25,973 --> 00:03:28,674 - The 19-year-old told police he drugged her, 77 00:03:28,776 --> 00:03:30,842 forced her to perform oral sex. 78 00:03:30,945 --> 00:03:31,810 ♪ ♪ 79 00:03:31,912 --> 00:03:34,513 - back in 2004, my father was partying 80 00:03:34,615 --> 00:03:38,383 at one of the playboy mansion parties with a few girls 81 00:03:38,485 --> 00:03:42,387 who ended up going back to his house afterwards. 82 00:03:42,489 --> 00:03:44,056 And I believe, 83 00:03:44,158 --> 00:03:45,524 you know, they were partying there as well. 84 00:03:45,626 --> 00:03:46,858 - She said saginor called in a second man 85 00:03:46,961 --> 00:03:52,531 to take polaroid photos of her drugged out and seminude. 86 00:03:52,633 --> 00:03:54,666 Saginor was banned from the playboy mansion 87 00:03:54,768 --> 00:03:57,169 after he was investigated by the lapd. 88 00:03:57,271 --> 00:03:58,403 ♪ ♪ 89 00:03:58,505 --> 00:03:59,605 - hef, of course, heard this news, 90 00:03:59,707 --> 00:04:04,977 and hef distanced himself publicly from my father. 91 00:04:05,079 --> 00:04:06,878 ♪ ♪ 92 00:04:06,981 --> 00:04:09,915 he always wanted to be one step removed from every situation 93 00:04:10,017 --> 00:04:12,818 so that nothing would ever come back 94 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,454 as, like, a direct negative reflection on him. 95 00:04:15,556 --> 00:04:17,889 - He would actually be trying to convince me 96 00:04:17,992 --> 00:04:20,626 that smoking crack cocaine would cure my asthma. 97 00:04:20,728 --> 00:04:23,662 He's misusing his position as a doctor 98 00:04:23,764 --> 00:04:24,696 and as hefner's friend. 99 00:04:24,798 --> 00:04:25,631 He's using it to ruin young girls' lives. 100 00:04:25,733 --> 00:04:33,505 ♪ ♪ 101 00:04:33,607 --> 00:04:38,510 - my father reacted very poorly to hef distancing himself, 102 00:04:38,612 --> 00:04:41,046 because he felt that he was the fall guy, 103 00:04:41,148 --> 00:04:44,549 and he felt that he was a part of something much bigger. 104 00:04:44,652 --> 00:04:49,521 There are so many other men in hef's inner circle 105 00:04:49,623 --> 00:04:52,157 who were part of this underground system. 106 00:04:52,259 --> 00:04:56,728 The bigger picture is a operation 107 00:04:56,830 --> 00:04:57,629 that had been in place for many decades. 108 00:04:57,731 --> 00:04:59,731 ♪ ♪ 109 00:04:59,833 --> 00:05:01,500 - all right, here we go, boys. - Now? 110 00:05:01,602 --> 00:05:02,067 - I'm rolling. - 15 in a row. 111 00:05:02,169 --> 00:05:04,569 - 15 in a row, eh? 112 00:05:04,672 --> 00:05:07,072 [indistinct chatter] 113 00:05:07,174 --> 00:05:07,606 ♪ ♪ 114 00:05:07,708 --> 00:05:09,675 - for hefner 115 00:05:09,777 --> 00:05:12,344 and all the inner circle from the mansion, 116 00:05:12,446 --> 00:05:13,478 it was a mindset. 117 00:05:13,580 --> 00:05:15,047 It was a mentality of men 118 00:05:15,149 --> 00:05:16,982 who look at women as commodities, 119 00:05:17,084 --> 00:05:20,452 as objects that are disposable. 120 00:05:20,554 --> 00:05:24,890 Girls were another form of a game to these men. 121 00:05:24,992 --> 00:05:26,725 - Ooh, ah! 122 00:05:26,827 --> 00:05:28,060 Oh! 123 00:05:28,162 --> 00:05:30,028 Fantastic! - That was a good game. 124 00:05:30,130 --> 00:05:33,932 - Oh, that was a great one, huh? 125 00:05:34,034 --> 00:05:35,367 - In the late '70s and the '80s, 126 00:05:35,469 --> 00:05:38,704 there was this place where hefner and my father 127 00:05:38,806 --> 00:05:40,906 and a lot of the men 128 00:05:41,008 --> 00:05:42,808 in the inner circle from the mansion 129 00:05:42,910 --> 00:05:46,645 would go enjoy a night out playing games, 130 00:05:46,747 --> 00:05:49,514 and it was called pips. 131 00:05:49,616 --> 00:05:51,950 - Where are the really in places? 132 00:05:52,052 --> 00:05:54,519 - The best one right now seems to be pips, 133 00:05:54,621 --> 00:05:55,487 which was started by my man. [chuckles] 134 00:05:55,589 --> 00:05:59,057 it's a discotheque, backgammon club. 135 00:05:59,159 --> 00:06:02,561 - Pips was a place that hefner invested in 136 00:06:02,663 --> 00:06:03,462 along with bernie cornfeld, 137 00:06:03,564 --> 00:06:06,064 who was my father's good friend 138 00:06:06,166 --> 00:06:07,999 and was also hefner's really good friend. 139 00:06:08,102 --> 00:06:10,602 In the front room at pips, there was a dance floor, 140 00:06:10,704 --> 00:06:12,604 and it just looked like a regular club. 141 00:06:12,706 --> 00:06:17,776 And then in the back, there was a private vip area 142 00:06:17,878 --> 00:06:19,878 for people who were very well-known 143 00:06:19,980 --> 00:06:22,681 or established. 144 00:06:22,783 --> 00:06:25,117 Backgammon and monopoly and poker, 145 00:06:25,219 --> 00:06:26,651 and it was even girls. 146 00:06:26,754 --> 00:06:27,586 I mean, anything you could think of was there 147 00:06:27,688 --> 00:06:29,421 and available. 148 00:06:29,523 --> 00:06:31,656 ♪ ♪ 149 00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:35,093 as a teenager, I had a bedroom myself at the playboy mansion, 150 00:06:35,195 --> 00:06:38,430 and I would tag along with the guys 151 00:06:38,532 --> 00:06:39,030 when they'd go to pips. 152 00:06:39,133 --> 00:06:42,000 ♪ ♪ 153 00:06:42,102 --> 00:06:43,502 part of my job was running downstairs 154 00:06:43,604 --> 00:06:45,504 and greeting a bunch of the girls 155 00:06:45,606 --> 00:06:46,138 that would pile out of the limo. 156 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,641 They were brought in 157 00:06:49,743 --> 00:06:52,010 almost like you would bring in a backgammon set 158 00:06:52,112 --> 00:06:55,647 or, you know, you'd put chips on the table for poker. 159 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:57,382 They were just part of the game. 160 00:06:57,484 --> 00:06:59,618 You know, you can bet on a girl like, 161 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,987 "oh, which one do you want," you know? 162 00:07:02,089 --> 00:07:04,589 If I win something, I get this one. 163 00:07:04,691 --> 00:07:07,526 Who should this one go to? Who gets that one? 164 00:07:07,628 --> 00:07:08,760 It was a system of trading girls. 165 00:07:08,862 --> 00:07:13,331 They were not aware of what was happening to them, 166 00:07:13,434 --> 00:07:14,900 that they were being wagered on 167 00:07:15,002 --> 00:07:18,670 or used as sort of collateral gifts within the games. 168 00:07:18,772 --> 00:07:19,604 ♪ ♪ 169 00:07:19,706 --> 00:07:20,539 the girls that would attend pips, 170 00:07:20,641 --> 00:07:23,542 some of them could be playmates. 171 00:07:23,644 --> 00:07:25,844 Some of them were just guests who showed up for the night. 172 00:07:25,946 --> 00:07:28,613 But I think a lot of these young women 173 00:07:28,715 --> 00:07:29,748 were coming from the shadow mansions. 174 00:07:29,850 --> 00:07:33,418 ♪ ♪ 175 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,753 by shadow mansion, 176 00:07:34,855 --> 00:07:38,356 I mean that these men in hef's inner circle 177 00:07:38,459 --> 00:07:41,059 would try to emulate what he created 178 00:07:41,161 --> 00:07:44,863 in his own empire at the playboy mansion. 179 00:07:44,965 --> 00:07:46,531 And they would have smaller versions 180 00:07:46,633 --> 00:07:48,567 of the playboy mansions, 181 00:07:48,669 --> 00:07:51,636 which I would refer to as mini mansions. 182 00:07:51,738 --> 00:07:53,538 They would house these young girls 183 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,407 who would come to los angeles 184 00:07:55,509 --> 00:07:59,478 looking for opportunities to become actresses or models. 185 00:07:59,580 --> 00:08:00,278 ♪ ♪ 186 00:08:00,380 --> 00:08:04,716 in the '70s, bernie cornfeld, 187 00:08:04,818 --> 00:08:05,984 the guy who owned pips, 188 00:08:06,086 --> 00:08:06,918 was one of the first men 189 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:09,621 to set up his own shadow mansion. 190 00:08:09,723 --> 00:08:16,895 ♪ ♪ 191 00:08:19,099 --> 00:08:22,334 - I have diaries from every year of my life 192 00:08:22,436 --> 00:08:23,702 from the time I was seven. 193 00:08:23,804 --> 00:08:27,372 That's not the one. Here, '73 and '74 right here. 194 00:08:27,474 --> 00:08:29,508 ♪ ♪ 195 00:08:29,610 --> 00:08:32,944 my name is sharmagne leland-st. John-sylbert. 196 00:08:33,046 --> 00:08:35,881 In the early '70s, I had already been a playboy bunny, 197 00:08:35,983 --> 00:08:38,483 but I was no longer a bunny. 198 00:08:38,585 --> 00:08:40,819 Instead, I was partners with bernie 199 00:08:40,921 --> 00:08:42,954 in this modeling agency. 200 00:08:43,056 --> 00:08:45,590 ♪ ♪ 201 00:08:45,692 --> 00:08:49,027 just up the road a bit from the playboy mansion, 202 00:08:49,129 --> 00:08:51,129 there was the house that was called grayhall, 203 00:08:51,231 --> 00:08:53,765 which was the home of bernie cornfeld. 204 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:56,568 Bernie had a talent agency 205 00:08:56,670 --> 00:08:59,704 for actresses and models, 206 00:08:59,806 --> 00:09:01,373 and he had a dormitory upstairs, 207 00:09:01,475 --> 00:09:04,309 where he would invite these young women 208 00:09:04,411 --> 00:09:05,877 to come and live in his home. 209 00:09:05,979 --> 00:09:07,145 ♪ ♪ 210 00:09:07,247 --> 00:09:09,814 by the time I understood what was going on at grayhall, 211 00:09:09,917 --> 00:09:13,051 it had already been going on for some time. 212 00:09:13,153 --> 00:09:15,520 Bernie, he would go prowling at night. 213 00:09:15,622 --> 00:09:17,622 He'd go prowling up in the dormitory 214 00:09:17,724 --> 00:09:18,957 and be having sex with the girls up there. 215 00:09:19,059 --> 00:09:22,627 I realized that the modeling agency 216 00:09:22,729 --> 00:09:26,498 apparently fronted for bernie's sexual appetite. 217 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,334 So, if you moved into the house, you became prey. 218 00:09:29,436 --> 00:09:32,637 You became one of his next conquests. 219 00:09:32,739 --> 00:09:35,006 ♪ ♪ 220 00:09:35,108 --> 00:09:37,108 - bernie cornfeld had a really nice house, 221 00:09:37,210 --> 00:09:39,744 and we used to shoot there a lot 222 00:09:39,846 --> 00:09:41,346 for "playboy" magazine. 223 00:09:41,448 --> 00:09:42,080 ♪ ♪ 224 00:09:42,182 --> 00:09:43,882 marilyn grabowski, my boss, 225 00:09:43,984 --> 00:09:45,584 was the west coast photo editor. 226 00:09:45,686 --> 00:09:48,486 She says, "I'm gonna have dinner with bernie, 227 00:09:48,589 --> 00:09:49,821 and I want you to come with me." 228 00:09:49,923 --> 00:09:52,891 and so I went there. 229 00:09:52,993 --> 00:09:54,826 I said, "now, let me know when you leave 230 00:09:54,928 --> 00:09:56,027 'cause I'm not staying here without you." 231 00:09:56,129 --> 00:09:59,397 and so I'm sitting at the end of this big living room, 232 00:09:59,499 --> 00:10:03,535 and all of a sudden, I see her walking to the door, 233 00:10:03,637 --> 00:10:04,769 and I'm like... 234 00:10:04,871 --> 00:10:06,371 So I grab my purse, and I start to walk out, 235 00:10:06,473 --> 00:10:09,074 and bernie goes, "are you leaving?" 236 00:10:09,176 --> 00:10:11,543 and I said, "yeah, I got work tomorrow," you know? 237 00:10:11,645 --> 00:10:13,545 And he goes, "well, I know a better way out 238 00:10:13,647 --> 00:10:15,914 so you don't have to walk all the way to the front door." 239 00:10:16,016 --> 00:10:18,917 and so he walks me into a frickin' bedroom 240 00:10:19,019 --> 00:10:20,518 and throws me down on the bed. 241 00:10:20,621 --> 00:10:23,521 And I'm like, "[bleep], bernie, let me up!" 242 00:10:23,624 --> 00:10:25,657 and I'm hitting him. 243 00:10:25,759 --> 00:10:28,526 I said, "you know, who do you think I am?" 244 00:10:28,629 --> 00:10:31,396 so he finally lets me go... 245 00:10:31,498 --> 00:10:33,898 And the next day I said to marilyn, 246 00:10:34,001 --> 00:10:36,067 "how dare you? 247 00:10:36,169 --> 00:10:38,003 "I told you to let me know when you were leaving, 248 00:10:38,105 --> 00:10:40,905 and you didn't do it," you know? 249 00:10:41,008 --> 00:10:42,807 And for a woman to do that to another woman is not right. 250 00:10:42,909 --> 00:10:46,077 That's not cool. 251 00:10:46,179 --> 00:10:49,714 ♪ ♪ 252 00:10:49,816 --> 00:10:52,717 - in the '70s, it was just bernie cornfeld 253 00:10:52,819 --> 00:10:54,619 and the grayhall mansion. 254 00:10:54,721 --> 00:10:56,488 ♪ ♪ 255 00:10:56,590 --> 00:10:58,423 and as time went on, 256 00:10:58,525 --> 00:10:59,891 so many other men 257 00:10:59,993 --> 00:11:02,427 in the inner circle from playboy 258 00:11:02,529 --> 00:11:05,030 really wanted to emulate hef's lifestyle. 259 00:11:05,132 --> 00:11:07,632 The shadow-mansion system 260 00:11:07,734 --> 00:11:10,035 really became much larger during the '90s. 261 00:11:10,137 --> 00:11:14,472 It became this predatory movement 262 00:11:14,574 --> 00:11:17,642 where the girls that didn't make the cut at playboy 263 00:11:17,744 --> 00:11:23,381 were being really shuffled off into this underground system. 264 00:11:23,483 --> 00:11:24,549 ♪ ♪ 265 00:11:26,853 --> 00:11:29,854 ntroduce you 266 00:11:29,956 --> 00:11:31,322 to our new 1995 playmate of the year, 267 00:11:31,425 --> 00:11:33,324 julie cialini. 268 00:11:33,427 --> 00:11:36,461 [cheers and applause] 269 00:11:36,563 --> 00:11:39,898 - I feel like in the '90s at the playboy mansion 270 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,068 was, like, a whole different era. 271 00:11:43,170 --> 00:11:43,735 It was all about more press 272 00:11:43,837 --> 00:11:45,336 and bringing attention 273 00:11:45,439 --> 00:11:48,840 to the women of playboy, 274 00:11:48,942 --> 00:11:51,910 and that's definitely not anything that happened 275 00:11:52,012 --> 00:11:52,444 in the '80s. 276 00:11:52,546 --> 00:11:54,179 [dramatic music] 277 00:11:54,281 --> 00:11:57,082 the women in the '80s at playboy, 278 00:11:57,184 --> 00:12:00,985 I believe they didn't really have as much of a voice. 279 00:12:01,088 --> 00:12:04,289 It was more about keeping them enclosed, you know, 280 00:12:04,391 --> 00:12:07,192 within the mansion community and culture. 281 00:12:07,294 --> 00:12:10,161 And then as the '90s came about, 282 00:12:10,263 --> 00:12:11,730 there was a shift. 283 00:12:11,832 --> 00:12:14,699 - Though millions buy the magazine and video cassettes, 284 00:12:14,801 --> 00:12:16,267 much of the playboy mystique has come to an end. 285 00:12:16,369 --> 00:12:20,238 Hefner's private plane, the "big bunny," sold. 286 00:12:20,340 --> 00:12:22,807 Playboy's casinos, closed. 287 00:12:22,909 --> 00:12:24,175 Hefner's bachelorhood, endangered. 288 00:12:24,277 --> 00:12:27,378 He says he's getting hitched, to a centerfold, of course. 289 00:12:27,481 --> 00:12:30,982 - As you reached into the '90s, 290 00:12:31,084 --> 00:12:31,983 it was a big, big change. 291 00:12:32,085 --> 00:12:34,352 ♪ ♪ 292 00:12:34,454 --> 00:12:36,855 still in the aids epidemic. 293 00:12:36,957 --> 00:12:39,190 And in that time, 294 00:12:39,292 --> 00:12:41,493 the party kind of ended, I mean, for everybody. 295 00:12:41,595 --> 00:12:44,796 So maybe it was time 296 00:12:44,898 --> 00:12:47,966 for hef to settle down a little bit. 297 00:12:48,068 --> 00:12:51,436 - Hugh hefner, do you take kimberly conrad, 298 00:12:51,538 --> 00:12:55,039 here present, to be your wife? 299 00:12:55,142 --> 00:12:56,141 - I do. 300 00:12:56,243 --> 00:12:58,243 - Hef settled down 301 00:12:58,345 --> 00:13:02,147 in the midst of this pandemic. 302 00:13:02,249 --> 00:13:03,014 - It was a sad day for all of us. 303 00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:05,350 [laughing] 304 00:13:05,452 --> 00:13:06,818 you didn't need to be a fortune teller 305 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,188 to see that his lifestyle was going to take a drastic turn. 306 00:13:10,290 --> 00:13:11,856 - Yeah, it is more of like a family house. 307 00:13:11,958 --> 00:13:14,392 You know, they all have to get their sleep now. 308 00:13:14,494 --> 00:13:14,926 [laughs] 309 00:13:18,131 --> 00:13:18,763 - oh, during the kimberly years? 310 00:13:18,865 --> 00:13:21,366 Oh, hell, no. [chuckles] 311 00:13:21,468 --> 00:13:23,835 hef did not hit on any of the playmates. 312 00:13:23,937 --> 00:13:25,336 Kimberly's presence 313 00:13:25,438 --> 00:13:27,338 was definitely known around the mansion. 314 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,240 - As far as talking to him, 315 00:13:29,342 --> 00:13:30,875 we were told that's a good way 316 00:13:30,977 --> 00:13:34,746 to get yourself blacklisted from the mansion. 317 00:13:34,848 --> 00:13:37,115 You know, if we saw him coming one way, 318 00:13:37,217 --> 00:13:38,116 we'd go the other way. 319 00:13:38,218 --> 00:13:39,317 ♪ ♪ 320 00:13:39,419 --> 00:13:40,985 - the irony of the '90s 321 00:13:41,087 --> 00:13:44,489 is that the mansion was sort of shut down to the public, 322 00:13:44,591 --> 00:13:48,059 and yet there was more opportunities for women, 323 00:13:48,161 --> 00:13:50,662 and then these women happened to have personalities, 324 00:13:50,764 --> 00:13:52,897 where they really stepped into those opportunities 325 00:13:52,999 --> 00:13:54,432 and owned it. 326 00:13:54,534 --> 00:13:55,767 [photographers chattering] 327 00:13:55,869 --> 00:13:59,204 - I first started going to the mansion with my friend 328 00:13:59,306 --> 00:14:01,239 anna nicole smith. 329 00:14:01,341 --> 00:14:02,774 Anna nicole was the it girl at the mansion 330 00:14:02,876 --> 00:14:05,343 and all through the '90s. 331 00:14:05,445 --> 00:14:07,278 She was playmate of the month, 1992. 332 00:14:07,380 --> 00:14:09,681 - Anna. [applause] 333 00:14:09,783 --> 00:14:12,083 - and then she became playmate of the year, '93. 334 00:14:12,185 --> 00:14:13,351 - I feel like the '90s in los angeles 335 00:14:13,453 --> 00:14:15,720 and especially the playboy mansion 336 00:14:15,822 --> 00:14:17,922 is defined by someone like anna nicole smith. 337 00:14:18,024 --> 00:14:20,091 ♪ ♪ 338 00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:22,460 - it's a big check. [laughter] 339 00:14:22,562 --> 00:14:25,296 - during the year that she was becoming playmate of the year, 340 00:14:25,398 --> 00:14:27,131 she became an international sort of sensation 341 00:14:27,234 --> 00:14:27,999 with the campaign for guess. 342 00:14:28,101 --> 00:14:31,035 ♪ ♪ 343 00:14:31,137 --> 00:14:32,871 and then you have jenny mccarthy, 344 00:14:32,973 --> 00:14:34,873 pamela anderson. 345 00:14:34,975 --> 00:14:37,175 These women are sort of branding themselves 346 00:14:37,277 --> 00:14:38,943 outside the mansion. 347 00:14:39,045 --> 00:14:41,412 - I did my first cover for "playboy" in October of '89, 348 00:14:41,514 --> 00:14:43,848 and I've got "baywatch" now. 349 00:14:43,950 --> 00:14:45,049 It's so exciting. It's great. 350 00:14:45,151 --> 00:14:48,019 - All of a sudden, the public was noticing them. 351 00:14:48,121 --> 00:14:50,188 It became a lot more mainstream and acceptable 352 00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:51,923 to be a playmate. 353 00:14:52,025 --> 00:14:55,827 - When you see somebody make it really big because of playboy, 354 00:14:55,929 --> 00:14:57,195 like pam anderson and jenny mccarthy and stuff, 355 00:14:57,297 --> 00:14:59,731 you're like, "wow. 356 00:14:59,833 --> 00:15:01,099 "like, look at all the opportunities that it brings 357 00:15:01,201 --> 00:15:03,067 and how amazing that is." 358 00:15:03,169 --> 00:15:05,236 and I was like, "I want that." 359 00:15:05,338 --> 00:15:08,072 - as a result, women flock to los angeles from all over 360 00:15:08,174 --> 00:15:10,141 trying to become playmates. 361 00:15:10,243 --> 00:15:13,011 - This sophomore is into advertising, 362 00:15:13,113 --> 00:15:16,414 and she is not ashamed of trying out for playboy 363 00:15:16,516 --> 00:15:19,717 ♪ ♪ 364 00:15:19,819 --> 00:15:21,953 - people come from other places 365 00:15:22,055 --> 00:15:24,923 trying to be the celebrity or the star. 366 00:15:25,025 --> 00:15:27,058 That's their dream, and they're wishing for it, 367 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,360 but the competition is so stiff 368 00:15:29,462 --> 00:15:30,061 to be a playmate. 369 00:15:30,163 --> 00:15:33,331 So that handful makes it. 370 00:15:33,433 --> 00:15:35,266 The rest slip through the cracks 371 00:15:35,368 --> 00:15:39,704 and get preyed on by whomever is out there, 372 00:15:39,806 --> 00:15:41,773 knowing that they didn't make the cut. 373 00:15:41,875 --> 00:15:44,208 ♪ ♪ 374 00:15:44,311 --> 00:15:48,046 - in the '90s, I believe that these men around hef 375 00:15:48,148 --> 00:15:49,881 saw a very big opportunity. 376 00:15:49,983 --> 00:15:52,684 For many years, 377 00:15:52,786 --> 00:15:56,054 hef had different men who were out there recruiting. 378 00:15:56,156 --> 00:15:58,222 My father was a scout. 379 00:15:58,325 --> 00:16:00,658 They would put ads out in the different newspapers. 380 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,027 "want to be a playmate? Do you want to be a model?" 381 00:16:03,129 --> 00:16:04,796 ♪ ♪ 382 00:16:04,898 --> 00:16:07,031 and when you moved into the '90s, 383 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:08,933 the scouts would be circulating 384 00:16:09,035 --> 00:16:11,102 throughout the nightclubs in los angeles, 385 00:16:11,204 --> 00:16:12,670 'cause all the young girls 386 00:16:12,772 --> 00:16:15,039 that would come from out of town would obviously show up 387 00:16:15,141 --> 00:16:16,107 at the nightclubs. 388 00:16:16,209 --> 00:16:18,209 And they would number the level of girl 389 00:16:18,311 --> 00:16:18,943 that they would meet. 390 00:16:19,045 --> 00:16:21,079 ♪ ♪ 391 00:16:21,181 --> 00:16:24,749 if they were super hot and, you know, great physique 392 00:16:24,851 --> 00:16:25,817 and they were, like, a ten, 393 00:16:25,919 --> 00:16:29,387 then they would be brought to the mansion 394 00:16:29,489 --> 00:16:30,855 and brought to a party 395 00:16:30,957 --> 00:16:33,791 and given maybe an opportunity to pose in "playboy." 396 00:16:33,893 --> 00:16:36,227 and then you have nine. 397 00:16:36,329 --> 00:16:37,729 That was maybe given, 398 00:16:37,831 --> 00:16:38,830 you know, a lesser opportunity, 399 00:16:38,932 --> 00:16:40,164 but still would be introduced to people 400 00:16:40,266 --> 00:16:43,868 that could possibly bring her career to the next level. 401 00:16:43,970 --> 00:16:46,337 And then you have the girls that are, like, you know, 402 00:16:46,439 --> 00:16:48,039 the sevens and the eights. 403 00:16:48,141 --> 00:16:49,374 ♪ ♪ 404 00:16:49,476 --> 00:16:51,175 these girls didn't make the cut for playboy, 405 00:16:51,277 --> 00:16:53,177 but you don't want to just throw away nice girls. 406 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:56,247 They're still pretty. 407 00:16:56,349 --> 00:16:58,316 You know, "what can we do with them?" 408 00:16:58,418 --> 00:17:02,086 these scouts would invite these girls 409 00:17:02,188 --> 00:17:04,022 to these mini mansions 410 00:17:04,124 --> 00:17:05,323 for these modeling-agency parties 411 00:17:05,425 --> 00:17:08,059 and offer them a place to live 412 00:17:08,161 --> 00:17:10,328 and offer them modeling contracts. 413 00:17:10,430 --> 00:17:11,429 ♪ ♪ 414 00:17:11,531 --> 00:17:14,732 the young girls believed an opportunity 415 00:17:14,834 --> 00:17:17,068 to really move your dreams forward, 416 00:17:17,170 --> 00:17:20,405 when, in fact, it was really just all a facade. 417 00:17:20,507 --> 00:17:22,874 Very quickly they're crossing boundaries 418 00:17:22,976 --> 00:17:25,176 that they never thought that they would cross. 419 00:17:25,278 --> 00:17:27,245 Once you're on this path, 420 00:17:27,347 --> 00:17:29,814 it's very hard to find your way out. 421 00:17:29,916 --> 00:17:31,215 ♪ ♪ 422 00:17:31,317 --> 00:17:32,183 [dramatic music] 423 00:17:32,285 --> 00:17:35,186 - we're ready to go. - Copy. All right. 424 00:17:35,288 --> 00:17:37,221 [speaking indistinctly] 425 00:17:37,323 --> 00:17:38,122 ♪ ♪ 426 00:17:38,224 --> 00:17:40,291 - I'm rachel myers, 427 00:17:40,393 --> 00:17:44,962 and I was a guest at many of the playboy mansion parties. 428 00:17:45,065 --> 00:17:46,364 When I first moved to l.A., 429 00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:49,600 I was working at a clothing store in beverly hills. 430 00:17:49,702 --> 00:17:53,504 Two older gentlemen came in and said to me, 431 00:17:53,606 --> 00:17:56,574 "would you like to attend the playboy mansion party? 432 00:17:56,676 --> 00:17:59,477 If so, I can get you in. You have to see someone." 433 00:17:59,579 --> 00:18:00,678 ♪ ♪ 434 00:18:00,780 --> 00:18:04,248 I went to someone's house. 435 00:18:04,350 --> 00:18:08,653 This is someone in the inner circle at the playboy mansion, 436 00:18:08,755 --> 00:18:12,256 and I was told that the way to get into the playboy mansion 437 00:18:12,358 --> 00:18:15,726 was to show my boobs. 438 00:18:15,829 --> 00:18:18,096 ♪ ♪ 439 00:18:18,198 --> 00:18:21,399 I don't know. I just did it. 440 00:18:21,501 --> 00:18:23,234 ♪ ♪ 441 00:18:23,336 --> 00:18:26,003 photos were taken, and there were photos 442 00:18:26,106 --> 00:18:28,005 on the table of multiple women, 443 00:18:28,108 --> 00:18:31,008 and so I just thought it was normal. 444 00:18:31,111 --> 00:18:34,545 And so that's how I got into the playboy mansion. 445 00:18:34,647 --> 00:18:37,014 ♪ ♪ 446 00:18:37,117 --> 00:18:40,051 at the mansion, I went with an older gentleman 447 00:18:40,153 --> 00:18:41,352 who picked me up in a limo. 448 00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:45,223 I was actually brought to hugh hefner's table 449 00:18:45,325 --> 00:18:46,491 and introduced to hugh. 450 00:18:46,593 --> 00:18:50,528 And I met some other older men, 451 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:54,098 and they would invite me to the mini mansions. 452 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,233 ♪ ♪ 453 00:18:55,335 --> 00:18:56,434 the mini mansions were similar parties 454 00:18:56,536 --> 00:19:01,506 to the playboy mansion parties on a lower scale. 455 00:19:01,608 --> 00:19:03,975 I would see the same guys at the mini mansions 456 00:19:04,077 --> 00:19:07,411 that I would see at the playboy mansion. 457 00:19:07,514 --> 00:19:10,281 So I think there was definitely a learned behavior 458 00:19:10,383 --> 00:19:12,517 from the mansion to the mini mansions. 459 00:19:12,619 --> 00:19:14,619 These men got some ideas 460 00:19:14,721 --> 00:19:18,256 on how to manipulate women. 461 00:19:18,358 --> 00:19:20,558 ♪ ♪ 462 00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:21,592 - the experience I had at the mini-mansion parties 463 00:19:21,694 --> 00:19:24,996 is immediately walking in, 464 00:19:25,098 --> 00:19:28,032 having all the men glom on to you 465 00:19:28,134 --> 00:19:31,002 offering you, you know, lines of coke 466 00:19:31,104 --> 00:19:33,271 or a bowl of, you know, ecstasy. 467 00:19:33,373 --> 00:19:35,540 If you refuse those, 468 00:19:35,642 --> 00:19:37,441 they're trying to shove champagne in your face. 469 00:19:37,544 --> 00:19:39,143 You know, who knows what's in the champagne, 470 00:19:39,245 --> 00:19:41,546 if they've dropped anything in there? 471 00:19:41,648 --> 00:19:43,281 I've just seen it too many times. 472 00:19:43,383 --> 00:19:44,549 ♪ ♪ 473 00:19:44,651 --> 00:19:48,419 I just would refrain and get my own drink or my own water 474 00:19:48,521 --> 00:19:50,688 and make sure I opened it myself, 475 00:19:50,790 --> 00:19:51,656 and that's how I avoided being prey. 476 00:19:51,758 --> 00:19:56,160 So that's the first red flag. 477 00:19:56,262 --> 00:19:58,362 Second red flag is they're promising you, 478 00:19:58,464 --> 00:19:59,697 to come to this party, 479 00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:01,499 you're going to get a modeling contract. 480 00:20:01,601 --> 00:20:04,302 - At the mini mansions, these men had come up to me 481 00:20:04,404 --> 00:20:06,437 and given me their cards 482 00:20:06,539 --> 00:20:08,239 and told me that they would sign me. 483 00:20:08,341 --> 00:20:12,176 - Who's signing a contract at night at a party? 484 00:20:12,278 --> 00:20:13,077 So the grooming that's happening 485 00:20:13,179 --> 00:20:15,713 at these mini-mansion parties 486 00:20:15,815 --> 00:20:18,382 is pretty obviously not for modeling. 487 00:20:18,484 --> 00:20:20,651 ♪ ♪ 488 00:20:20,753 --> 00:20:23,588 - at these parties, in many of the rooms, 489 00:20:23,690 --> 00:20:24,922 they were, like, you know, setting up 490 00:20:25,024 --> 00:20:28,059 these, like, fake photo shoots where the girls would feel 491 00:20:28,161 --> 00:20:29,393 like they were being given this opportunity 492 00:20:29,495 --> 00:20:30,394 to be a model. 493 00:20:30,496 --> 00:20:32,530 ♪ ♪ 494 00:20:32,632 --> 00:20:33,698 maybe they were given a drink to relax 495 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,435 and then whenever that sort of would kick in, 496 00:20:37,537 --> 00:20:40,438 then the girls were, like, posing 497 00:20:40,540 --> 00:20:41,739 without their clothes on. 498 00:20:41,841 --> 00:20:43,441 ♪ ♪ 499 00:20:43,543 --> 00:20:45,476 I just remember walking in on them 500 00:20:45,578 --> 00:20:47,545 and being, like, horrified. 501 00:20:47,647 --> 00:20:50,147 These girls were clearly drugged 502 00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:52,550 and not coherent. 503 00:20:52,652 --> 00:20:53,584 Maybe they would also 504 00:20:53,686 --> 00:20:56,420 have somebody, like, videotaping them, 505 00:20:56,522 --> 00:21:00,024 and then that videotape could be used as blackmail, 506 00:21:00,126 --> 00:21:02,727 so they wouldn't tell anyone or so that they'd sort of fall 507 00:21:02,829 --> 00:21:08,266 into this underground system of being available. 508 00:21:08,368 --> 00:21:11,435 Basically, any powerful, wealthy man in los angeles 509 00:21:11,537 --> 00:21:13,070 who was on the guest list 510 00:21:13,172 --> 00:21:15,339 to attend the mini-mansion parties 511 00:21:15,441 --> 00:21:17,041 was given an opportunity 512 00:21:17,143 --> 00:21:19,310 to spend time with particular girls. 513 00:21:19,412 --> 00:21:21,412 "spending time with her" is code for "having sex with her." 514 00:21:21,514 --> 00:21:26,150 ♪ ♪ 515 00:21:26,252 --> 00:21:28,519 I think many of the girls stayed 516 00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:31,389 in the mini-mansion system because they were scared 517 00:21:31,491 --> 00:21:33,457 of being blackmailed with videotapes. 518 00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:36,527 I believe others really didn't have other opportunities, 519 00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:39,330 and they thought that perhaps if they would just sleep 520 00:21:39,432 --> 00:21:41,565 with this next guy and get it over with 521 00:21:41,668 --> 00:21:43,334 that they could offer you a certain opportunity. 522 00:21:43,436 --> 00:21:44,669 ♪ ♪ 523 00:21:44,771 --> 00:21:45,670 - it's very hard for me 524 00:21:45,772 --> 00:21:49,640 to look back on those times 525 00:21:49,742 --> 00:21:52,276 because it's something 526 00:21:52,378 --> 00:21:56,580 that I don't necessarily want to remember or admit, 527 00:21:56,683 --> 00:21:57,315 but it was a part of my life. 528 00:21:57,417 --> 00:22:00,184 ♪ ♪ 529 00:22:00,286 --> 00:22:02,520 as a young girl, I was molested, 530 00:22:02,622 --> 00:22:05,389 so I probably detached from my body at a young age. 531 00:22:05,491 --> 00:22:09,460 And so having that trauma... 532 00:22:09,562 --> 00:22:11,195 ♪ ♪ 533 00:22:11,297 --> 00:22:13,097 made it easier... [chuckles] 534 00:22:13,199 --> 00:22:15,566 ♪ ♪ 535 00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:18,436 'cause I didn't own my body, someone else did. 536 00:22:18,538 --> 00:22:19,370 ♪ ♪ 537 00:22:19,472 --> 00:22:24,342 I would say to my younger self now 538 00:22:24,444 --> 00:22:27,445 to not use your body for opportunities. 539 00:22:27,547 --> 00:22:34,218 ♪ ♪ 540 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:39,256 - in the '90s, there was at least six or seven guys 541 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,058 that I knew in hef's inner circle 542 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,229 that ended up setting up these shadow mansions... 543 00:22:45,331 --> 00:22:47,064 Guys like peter nygard. 544 00:22:47,166 --> 00:22:47,832 ♪ ♪ 545 00:22:47,934 --> 00:22:49,667 - for decades, peter nygard 546 00:22:49,769 --> 00:22:51,469 has been fashion royalty. 547 00:22:51,571 --> 00:22:54,071 - I met peter nygaard about 30 years ago 548 00:22:54,173 --> 00:22:56,240 at one of the mini-mansion parties. 549 00:22:56,342 --> 00:22:59,243 He wanted to be the next hef. 550 00:22:59,345 --> 00:23:01,078 He would roll over to the mansion 551 00:23:01,180 --> 00:23:02,713 and just go see hef and hang out. 552 00:23:02,815 --> 00:23:04,548 They'd play cards. 553 00:23:04,650 --> 00:23:06,050 ♪ ♪ 554 00:23:06,152 --> 00:23:09,687 - peter nygard has a house in marina del rey. 555 00:23:09,789 --> 00:23:12,089 It's huge. It's, like, on the beach. 556 00:23:12,191 --> 00:23:14,358 When I went to a party at peter nygard's house, 557 00:23:14,460 --> 00:23:18,262 he tried to pull down my top, kiss my boob, and kiss me. 558 00:23:18,364 --> 00:23:19,130 And I was like, "what are you doing?" 559 00:23:19,232 --> 00:23:20,498 like, peter nygard is a predator. 560 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,736 The news is completely true, what they're saying about him. 561 00:23:25,838 --> 00:23:28,105 - The fbi calls nygard a predator, 562 00:23:28,207 --> 00:23:30,408 and they allege he sexually assaulted dozens, 563 00:23:30,510 --> 00:23:33,177 if not hundreds, of women and girls over a 25-year period. 564 00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:35,980 ♪ ♪ 565 00:23:36,082 --> 00:23:39,417 - when I was in l.A. Doing the shooting for playboy, 566 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:41,986 nygard called me up. 567 00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:42,653 I'm sure that he got the information from playboy. 568 00:23:42,755 --> 00:23:45,089 I mean, where else? 569 00:23:45,191 --> 00:23:46,590 I was stupid enough to go to his house 570 00:23:46,692 --> 00:23:48,426 when I was invited there. 571 00:23:48,528 --> 00:23:49,527 ♪ ♪ 572 00:23:49,629 --> 00:23:53,497 he was hinting about anal sex, 573 00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:56,600 like certain kind of things that he really liked. 574 00:23:56,702 --> 00:24:00,171 And what he said to me was the same allegations 575 00:24:00,273 --> 00:24:02,139 that women were telling about him. 576 00:24:02,241 --> 00:24:07,011 - He held me down, and he sodomized me. 577 00:24:07,113 --> 00:24:10,581 I didn't know what to do. 578 00:24:10,683 --> 00:24:13,050 I had never felt that kind of pain before, 579 00:24:13,152 --> 00:24:13,784 and I was scared 580 00:24:13,886 --> 00:24:15,753 ♪ ♪ 581 00:24:15,855 --> 00:24:19,089 - when I was there, he probably could have raped me 582 00:24:19,192 --> 00:24:20,791 or drugged me or something. 583 00:24:20,893 --> 00:24:25,162 I was really lucky to be able to escape that situation. 584 00:24:25,264 --> 00:24:31,101 ♪ ♪ 585 00:24:38,377 --> 00:24:40,478 - oh, I think hef knew 586 00:24:40,580 --> 00:24:41,512 definitely what was going on at the parties, 587 00:24:41,614 --> 00:24:43,214 because most of the people 588 00:24:43,316 --> 00:24:45,249 throwing the mini-mansion parties 589 00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:47,384 had partied at the mansion. 590 00:24:47,487 --> 00:24:49,253 - That's really what it is. 591 00:24:49,355 --> 00:24:51,655 Of course hefner's aware of the system. 592 00:24:51,757 --> 00:24:54,258 All of his friends were, you know, housing these girls, 593 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,327 and they were the ones who owned the mini mansions. 594 00:24:56,429 --> 00:24:56,994 ♪ ♪ 595 00:24:57,096 --> 00:24:58,162 in the '80s and '90s, 596 00:24:58,264 --> 00:25:01,499 even my father's house was a mini mansion, 597 00:25:01,601 --> 00:25:03,067 a shadow mansion. 598 00:25:03,169 --> 00:25:04,668 There were so many different young models 599 00:25:04,770 --> 00:25:08,372 living at my father's house. 600 00:25:08,474 --> 00:25:10,407 Bernie cornfeld and these different men 601 00:25:10,510 --> 00:25:11,342 who owned their own shadow mansions 602 00:25:11,444 --> 00:25:12,676 would stop by my father's house 603 00:25:12,778 --> 00:25:13,410 to sort of check out the cattle. 604 00:25:13,513 --> 00:25:16,714 ♪ ♪ 605 00:25:16,816 --> 00:25:20,150 and then in 2004, my father was made the fall guy 606 00:25:20,253 --> 00:25:23,487 for this mini-mansion system. 607 00:25:23,589 --> 00:25:27,191 Hef then publicly distanced himself from my father. 608 00:25:27,293 --> 00:25:30,528 My father was hefner's very good friend of 40 years, 609 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:33,364 and he was really upset 610 00:25:33,466 --> 00:25:36,100 that hef would sort of turn his back on him 611 00:25:36,202 --> 00:25:37,635 in that moment publicly. 612 00:25:37,737 --> 00:25:39,637 At the time, I didn't understand 613 00:25:39,739 --> 00:25:43,307 why he felt so betrayed. 614 00:25:43,409 --> 00:25:47,545 It led me to reevaluate their relationship. 615 00:25:47,647 --> 00:25:51,115 I started to connect the dots over the decades. 616 00:25:55,154 --> 00:25:57,555 That it was much more than a friendship. 617 00:25:57,657 --> 00:26:02,092 ♪ ♪ 618 00:26:02,194 --> 00:26:04,495 - say, aren't you brigham young? 619 00:26:04,597 --> 00:26:05,496 - I am. 620 00:26:05,598 --> 00:26:06,630 - The man with 50 wives? - I am. 621 00:26:06,732 --> 00:26:07,765 - The man with 240 children? 622 00:26:07,867 --> 00:26:12,269 - I am. - Why, you should be hung. 623 00:26:12,371 --> 00:26:12,903 - I am. 624 00:26:13,005 --> 00:26:17,708 [cheers and applause] 625 00:26:17,810 --> 00:26:20,277 - in my mind, for many years, 626 00:26:20,379 --> 00:26:23,714 my father and hef were in a very close friendship 627 00:26:23,816 --> 00:26:24,448 for many, many decades. 628 00:26:24,550 --> 00:26:27,618 [dramatic music] 629 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,321 what I've realized over time is that their connection 630 00:26:30,423 --> 00:26:34,224 was much more than just best friends. 631 00:26:34,327 --> 00:26:38,095 It's my personal belief that the love of hef's life 632 00:26:38,197 --> 00:26:39,063 was my father. 633 00:26:39,165 --> 00:26:41,198 ♪ ♪ 634 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:42,433 over the years, 635 00:26:42,535 --> 00:26:45,803 my father, you know, really gave up his family life, 636 00:26:45,905 --> 00:26:50,507 his practice to be with him. 637 00:26:50,610 --> 00:26:51,609 I don't know many men 638 00:26:51,711 --> 00:26:54,378 who just basically give up their own life 639 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,348 and then move into some other man's house. 640 00:26:57,450 --> 00:27:00,217 - So, during my tenure at the playboy mansion, 641 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:02,186 as far as dr. Saginor and mr. Hefner, 642 00:27:02,288 --> 00:27:05,656 I experienced those two becoming very close. 643 00:27:05,758 --> 00:27:07,224 I remember 644 00:27:07,326 --> 00:27:08,826 "a midsummer night's dream" party, 645 00:27:08,928 --> 00:27:11,362 and I noticed that, you know, mr. Hefner, 646 00:27:11,464 --> 00:27:13,697 mr. Hefner's girlfriend, 647 00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:15,532 and dr. Saginor 648 00:27:15,635 --> 00:27:16,500 made their way up to the bedroom-- 649 00:27:16,602 --> 00:27:19,370 bedroom one-- that's mr. Hefner's room. 650 00:27:19,472 --> 00:27:20,471 You could paint the picture 651 00:27:20,573 --> 00:27:23,440 I don't know, but they didn't come back down. 652 00:27:23,542 --> 00:27:26,543 - You have admitted to some homosexual curiosities. 653 00:27:26,646 --> 00:27:28,579 How serious have any of those dalliances been? 654 00:27:28,681 --> 00:27:31,081 - Not serious at all. 655 00:27:31,183 --> 00:27:34,151 When you're involved in the swing period 656 00:27:34,253 --> 00:27:36,620 or the orgy period of the '70s, 657 00:27:36,722 --> 00:27:39,456 there was more than a little bisexuality. 658 00:27:39,558 --> 00:27:42,526 - Mark became his best friend. 659 00:27:42,628 --> 00:27:46,730 They took things really far. 660 00:27:46,832 --> 00:27:49,266 They became more than best friends. 661 00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:51,502 ♪ ♪ 662 00:27:51,604 --> 00:27:53,170 yeah. 663 00:27:53,272 --> 00:27:55,172 Yeah, they became that. 664 00:27:55,274 --> 00:27:58,208 - My father and hef had a spiritual connection 665 00:27:58,310 --> 00:28:02,846 that I don't believe any of these wives or girlfriends 666 00:28:02,948 --> 00:28:04,648 could ever compete against. 667 00:28:04,750 --> 00:28:06,116 ♪ ♪ 668 00:28:06,218 --> 00:28:07,818 they had a physical relationship 669 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,620 in the context of these different orgies. 670 00:28:09,722 --> 00:28:13,190 The orgy sort of started as something 671 00:28:13,292 --> 00:28:14,425 that was an opportunity for people 672 00:28:14,527 --> 00:28:18,529 to sort of experience their open sexuality, 673 00:28:18,631 --> 00:28:20,330 and then that sort of turned into something 674 00:28:20,433 --> 00:28:23,567 that was a little bit more sinister. 675 00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:25,436 It was just more of a transaction 676 00:28:25,538 --> 00:28:27,571 that was exciting 677 00:28:27,673 --> 00:28:31,341 and that probably stemmed from their own childhood. 678 00:28:31,444 --> 00:28:32,576 ♪ ♪ 679 00:28:32,678 --> 00:28:35,579 growing up, they were both these weird, nerdy guys 680 00:28:35,681 --> 00:28:37,815 who didn't date a lot of women. 681 00:28:37,917 --> 00:28:38,716 ♪ ♪ 682 00:28:38,818 --> 00:28:40,784 so having control and power 683 00:28:40,886 --> 00:28:44,054 over these types of women at the mansion 684 00:28:44,156 --> 00:28:45,823 was something that is very exciting. 685 00:28:45,925 --> 00:28:49,226 You know, the breaking down of a woman, 686 00:28:49,328 --> 00:28:51,695 watching them sort of fall into something 687 00:28:51,797 --> 00:28:53,130 where they're now doing something 688 00:28:53,232 --> 00:28:55,733 that maybe thought they would never do. 689 00:28:55,835 --> 00:28:56,867 Maybe they're crossing boundaries 690 00:28:56,969 --> 00:28:58,836 that they never thought that they would cross. 691 00:28:58,938 --> 00:29:02,506 There's some kind of rush in that. 692 00:29:02,608 --> 00:29:03,440 And then it's like anything. 693 00:29:03,542 --> 00:29:05,175 You know, once you have something, 694 00:29:05,277 --> 00:29:06,176 you need, you know, more of that 695 00:29:06,278 --> 00:29:09,346 to sort of create the same feeling. 696 00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:12,750 "so how do we recruit more girls like this," you know? 697 00:29:12,852 --> 00:29:14,585 How do we bring in fresh meat?" 698 00:29:14,687 --> 00:29:15,853 the bigger the situations they created, 699 00:29:15,955 --> 00:29:18,655 the more their energy was on the girls, 700 00:29:18,758 --> 00:29:21,759 seducing them into the world 701 00:29:21,861 --> 00:29:24,595 and really just breaking them down. 702 00:29:24,697 --> 00:29:25,696 ♪ ♪ 703 00:29:25,798 --> 00:29:28,532 and that, over time, I believe, 704 00:29:28,634 --> 00:29:34,104 became something that turned into a bigger picture. 705 00:29:34,206 --> 00:29:34,872 ♪ ♪ 706 00:29:34,974 --> 00:29:36,473 when you moved into the '90s 707 00:29:36,575 --> 00:29:37,674 when hef married kimberly 708 00:29:37,777 --> 00:29:41,712 and all the big orgies shut down at the mansion, 709 00:29:41,814 --> 00:29:43,714 all of a sudden, we're taking the party elsewhere. 710 00:29:47,386 --> 00:29:48,452 - Yeah. - They moved. 711 00:29:48,554 --> 00:29:49,753 At mark's, yeah. - Yeah. 712 00:29:51,357 --> 00:29:52,256 - Yeah. - Yeah. 713 00:29:52,358 --> 00:29:54,191 He only went to my father's house, 714 00:29:54,293 --> 00:29:56,193 'cause they're still partying and doing-- 715 00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:58,595 you know, they're "partying" together. 716 00:29:58,697 --> 00:30:00,564 I mean, you can't just stop the machine, right? 717 00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:02,533 The machine must go on, and that is something 718 00:30:02,635 --> 00:30:05,536 that was now taking place off the property. 719 00:30:05,638 --> 00:30:07,671 ♪ ♪ 720 00:30:07,773 --> 00:30:09,540 - one time I remember being in a limo 721 00:30:09,642 --> 00:30:12,643 with hef and anna nicole. 722 00:30:12,745 --> 00:30:15,579 We were heading to a mini-mansion party 723 00:30:15,681 --> 00:30:16,446 at mark saginor's house. 724 00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:19,683 At the party, it just seemed 725 00:30:19,785 --> 00:30:22,186 like all the girls were on the menu. 726 00:30:22,288 --> 00:30:23,353 - There was, like, 10, 15 girls 727 00:30:23,455 --> 00:30:26,089 living at my father's house. 728 00:30:26,192 --> 00:30:30,227 Literally, they would just come one by one down the staircase. 729 00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:31,361 - Even anna nicole-- 730 00:30:31,463 --> 00:30:33,864 I got the feeling when we were at the party 731 00:30:33,966 --> 00:30:37,234 that she was up for grabs for whoever. 732 00:30:37,336 --> 00:30:39,636 Anna nicole was right around 30 at the time. 733 00:30:39,738 --> 00:30:40,871 Hef made some comment, 734 00:30:40,973 --> 00:30:42,739 like, you know, she's being phased out. 735 00:30:42,842 --> 00:30:46,176 - That's how it works, 736 00:30:46,278 --> 00:30:48,478 even for someone like anna nicole smith. 737 00:30:48,581 --> 00:30:51,515 They're used for a certain period of time. 738 00:30:51,617 --> 00:30:53,784 They are then easily disposable. 739 00:30:53,886 --> 00:30:55,152 ♪ ♪ 740 00:30:55,254 --> 00:30:57,321 I believe that there's something exciting 741 00:30:57,423 --> 00:31:00,524 in meeting these young girls 742 00:31:00,626 --> 00:31:02,292 that will come from small towns 743 00:31:02,394 --> 00:31:04,261 that still kind of had that light in them 744 00:31:04,363 --> 00:31:08,565 and watching them slowly burn that light out. 745 00:31:08,667 --> 00:31:14,605 ♪ ♪ 746 00:31:14,707 --> 00:31:17,374 - in the '90s, 747 00:31:17,476 --> 00:31:19,343 once I moved into my father's house, 748 00:31:19,445 --> 00:31:21,778 he had these different pictures of women 749 00:31:21,881 --> 00:31:26,516 who were on all fours naked 750 00:31:26,619 --> 00:31:28,385 with a leash around the girl's neck. 751 00:31:28,487 --> 00:31:31,355 When I would try to say something to him, he was like, 752 00:31:31,457 --> 00:31:32,556 "well, they actually like to be submissive." 753 00:31:32,658 --> 00:31:34,825 they want to be dominated. 754 00:31:34,927 --> 00:31:37,861 He was on drugs at the time 755 00:31:37,963 --> 00:31:40,731 and offering drugs to these young girls. 756 00:31:40,833 --> 00:31:42,633 ♪ ♪ 757 00:31:42,735 --> 00:31:43,967 I remember walking into his bedroom 758 00:31:44,069 --> 00:31:50,407 and seeing these young girls really incoherent, 759 00:31:50,509 --> 00:31:53,744 and he would be, you know, injecting them with something. 760 00:31:53,846 --> 00:31:57,714 I grew up watching these girls come in looking one way 761 00:31:57,816 --> 00:32:01,919 and slowly becoming 762 00:32:02,021 --> 00:32:03,587 someone that they probably don't even recognize. 763 00:32:03,689 --> 00:32:06,890 ♪ ♪ 764 00:32:06,992 --> 00:32:08,258 one of the girls who was spending time 765 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,994 at my father's house for a while, 766 00:32:11,096 --> 00:32:12,729 her name was paulina. 767 00:32:12,831 --> 00:32:17,634 She came here from europe, wanted to become a model, 768 00:32:17,736 --> 00:32:21,905 and she's someone who I became friends with instantly. 769 00:32:22,007 --> 00:32:23,674 She was just so sweet and nice 770 00:32:23,776 --> 00:32:24,908 and had such a light in her spirit. 771 00:32:25,010 --> 00:32:27,377 ♪ ♪ 772 00:32:27,479 --> 00:32:30,480 at one of the parties-- I believe it was in malibu. 773 00:32:30,582 --> 00:32:32,649 Again, it was one of the fake modeling-agency parties. 774 00:32:32,751 --> 00:32:35,819 She was really high. 775 00:32:35,921 --> 00:32:39,489 She kept looking for a guy to help her get coke. 776 00:32:39,591 --> 00:32:40,958 She's found the next guy, 777 00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:42,993 and she went in the bathroom with him, 778 00:32:43,095 --> 00:32:45,862 and they did a bunch of blow, I believe. 779 00:32:45,965 --> 00:32:47,397 ♪ ♪ 780 00:32:47,499 --> 00:32:50,734 for the longest time, nobody came out. 781 00:32:50,836 --> 00:32:51,568 ♪ ♪ 782 00:32:51,670 --> 00:32:54,037 I walked in on the bathroom 783 00:32:54,139 --> 00:32:56,907 and saw her laying down in a pool of blood. 784 00:32:57,009 --> 00:32:58,275 ♪ ♪ 785 00:32:58,377 --> 00:33:01,211 I was scared. I didn't know what to do. 786 00:33:01,313 --> 00:33:02,713 And so I started screaming for help. 787 00:33:02,815 --> 00:33:04,948 No one came. 788 00:33:05,050 --> 00:33:06,383 And then all of a sudden, 789 00:33:06,485 --> 00:33:10,620 the owner of this particular mini mansion called security. 790 00:33:10,723 --> 00:33:14,658 Security came and literally picked up her lifeless body 791 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,461 and brought it into, like, the back. 792 00:33:17,563 --> 00:33:19,496 And I'm like, "wait a minute. Where are you taking her?" 793 00:33:19,598 --> 00:33:23,266 and they're like, "we got it from here, kid." 794 00:33:23,369 --> 00:33:24,468 ♪ ♪ 795 00:33:24,570 --> 00:33:26,970 and I never saw her again. 796 00:33:27,072 --> 00:33:28,638 ♪ ♪ 797 00:33:28,741 --> 00:33:31,742 [knock at door] 798 00:33:31,844 --> 00:33:35,278 many months later, there was a knock at my father's door, 799 00:33:35,381 --> 00:33:38,248 and there was this cute little old man. 800 00:33:38,350 --> 00:33:40,817 He pulled out, like, a polaroid picture, 801 00:33:40,919 --> 00:33:43,387 and he said, "you know, have you seen my daughter? 802 00:33:43,489 --> 00:33:44,688 Her name is paulina." 803 00:33:44,790 --> 00:33:47,624 ♪ ♪ 804 00:33:47,726 --> 00:33:49,693 I was conditioned from such a young age, of course, 805 00:33:49,795 --> 00:33:51,762 to be loyal to the men, 806 00:33:51,864 --> 00:33:52,496 and so the last thing I'm gonna do 807 00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:56,500 is be honest with this man 808 00:33:56,602 --> 00:34:00,337 about what I saw happen to his daughter. 809 00:34:00,439 --> 00:34:02,572 And so I just said, "no," you know, 810 00:34:02,674 --> 00:34:04,274 "I haven't seen paulina. 811 00:34:04,376 --> 00:34:07,310 Maybe you have the wrong house." 812 00:34:07,413 --> 00:34:08,745 ♪ ♪ 813 00:34:08,847 --> 00:34:11,982 and he put his head down, and, you know, he walked away. 814 00:34:12,084 --> 00:34:15,452 ♪ ♪ 815 00:34:15,554 --> 00:34:16,953 I was too scared to say anything myself 816 00:34:17,056 --> 00:34:19,890 or to tell anybody. 817 00:34:19,992 --> 00:34:22,926 I just I feel guilty that I watched these young girls, 818 00:34:23,028 --> 00:34:25,729 you know, many of them... 819 00:34:25,831 --> 00:34:29,232 That were drugged and... 820 00:34:29,334 --> 00:34:30,834 I just knew what was gonna happen to them, 821 00:34:30,936 --> 00:34:32,602 and I didn't do anything. 822 00:34:32,704 --> 00:34:34,638 ♪ ♪ 823 00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:37,974 - how old were you at this point? 824 00:34:38,077 --> 00:34:39,509 - Um... 825 00:34:39,611 --> 00:34:41,511 I mean, it was all the years. 826 00:34:41,613 --> 00:34:44,714 [chuckles] 827 00:34:46,718 --> 00:34:50,687 I feel guilty that I was there attending these parties 828 00:34:50,789 --> 00:34:52,389 and having fun, and, you know, 829 00:34:52,491 --> 00:34:53,990 and I thought it was fun. 830 00:34:54,093 --> 00:34:56,259 I did have fun. 831 00:34:56,361 --> 00:34:57,961 But it's devastating 832 00:34:58,063 --> 00:35:00,730 that these young girls were basically-- 833 00:35:00,833 --> 00:35:03,533 their spirits were really sucked out of them, 834 00:35:03,635 --> 00:35:06,970 and that's something that I can relate to. 835 00:35:07,072 --> 00:35:08,371 I thought since I was the doctor's daughter 836 00:35:08,474 --> 00:35:11,208 that I was protected, I was shielded, you know, 837 00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:14,911 against being taken advantage of. 838 00:35:15,013 --> 00:35:18,482 And then these same experiences happened to me 839 00:35:18,584 --> 00:35:19,549 that happened to so many of these girls. 840 00:35:19,651 --> 00:35:21,618 ♪ ♪ 841 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:24,955 as a teenager, 842 00:35:25,057 --> 00:35:28,625 I turned to one of my father's friends for advice 843 00:35:28,727 --> 00:35:30,927 and showed up at his house. 844 00:35:31,029 --> 00:35:32,796 ♪ ♪ 845 00:35:32,898 --> 00:35:34,764 he ended up offering me a drink 846 00:35:34,867 --> 00:35:36,766 and putting something in my drink. 847 00:35:36,869 --> 00:35:39,536 ♪ ♪ 848 00:35:39,638 --> 00:35:41,838 before I knew it, I was, you know, out of body 849 00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:45,542 and came to with him trying to have sex with me... 850 00:35:45,644 --> 00:35:46,910 ♪ ♪ 851 00:35:47,012 --> 00:35:49,546 telling me I had to take my, like, clothes off, 852 00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:50,447 and I was in his bed, 853 00:35:50,549 --> 00:35:54,351 and the whole thing was so horrific. 854 00:35:54,453 --> 00:35:57,654 ♪ ♪ 855 00:35:57,756 --> 00:36:00,257 for me, growing up in that setting, 856 00:36:00,359 --> 00:36:03,760 I was the only female that's welcomed into this boys' club. 857 00:36:03,862 --> 00:36:05,362 You know, I felt good about myself. 858 00:36:05,464 --> 00:36:07,564 I felt special and different. 859 00:36:07,666 --> 00:36:09,199 And really at the end of the day, I'm not. 860 00:36:09,301 --> 00:36:11,401 I'm just the same as, you know, 861 00:36:11,503 --> 00:36:13,603 any other girl who's coming to los angeles 862 00:36:13,705 --> 00:36:15,372 who's, you know-- 863 00:36:15,474 --> 00:36:18,542 who eventually is gonna be sucked up by the system. 864 00:36:18,644 --> 00:36:21,411 ♪ ♪ 865 00:36:23,215 --> 00:36:26,082 [dramatic music] 866 00:36:26,185 --> 00:36:27,250 ♪ ♪ 867 00:36:27,352 --> 00:36:30,053 - he's misusing his position as a doctor 868 00:36:30,155 --> 00:36:31,955 and as hefner's friend. 869 00:36:32,057 --> 00:36:35,025 He's using it to ruin young girls' lives. 870 00:36:35,127 --> 00:36:36,159 ♪ ♪ 871 00:36:36,261 --> 00:36:39,162 - over the years, I've seen it so much-- 872 00:36:39,264 --> 00:36:42,666 girls who were subject to... 873 00:36:42,768 --> 00:36:44,901 These--especially the mini mansions, 874 00:36:45,003 --> 00:36:49,372 but, you know, really taken in, you know, and their innocence 875 00:36:49,474 --> 00:36:51,541 and their spirits were really sucked out of them. 876 00:36:51,643 --> 00:36:53,310 ♪ ♪ 877 00:36:53,412 --> 00:36:55,912 in 2004, 878 00:36:56,014 --> 00:36:59,115 when the girls made claims against my father, 879 00:36:59,218 --> 00:37:00,450 his medical license was suspended 880 00:37:00,552 --> 00:37:01,985 for a short period of time. 881 00:37:02,087 --> 00:37:05,589 - Mark saginor is not allowed to practice medicine 882 00:37:05,691 --> 00:37:09,526 because he is a danger to his patients. 883 00:37:09,628 --> 00:37:11,127 - It was definitely a turning point for my father. 884 00:37:11,230 --> 00:37:16,099 He checked into rehab. He became sober. 885 00:37:16,201 --> 00:37:17,033 During that time period 886 00:37:17,135 --> 00:37:20,036 when hef distanced himself publicly 887 00:37:20,138 --> 00:37:23,440 hef and my father still spoke on the phone 888 00:37:23,542 --> 00:37:25,642 and then they did start spending time together again, 889 00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:30,447 especially towards the end of hef's life. 890 00:37:30,549 --> 00:37:33,350 When hef was passing, 891 00:37:33,452 --> 00:37:35,418 the one that was by his side in the end was my father. 892 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,389 ♪ ♪ 893 00:37:39,491 --> 00:37:41,658 after hefner passed, 894 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,295 my father decided to marry a young woman he met in rehab. 895 00:37:45,397 --> 00:37:48,298 ♪ ♪ 896 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,166 I remember showing up to this wedding, 897 00:37:50,269 --> 00:37:53,336 and it was so surreal 898 00:37:53,438 --> 00:37:58,908 to see these giant, blown-up posters on easels 899 00:37:59,011 --> 00:38:01,945 of hefner and mary o'connor and keith hefner. 900 00:38:02,047 --> 00:38:04,347 ♪ ♪ 901 00:38:04,449 --> 00:38:06,650 my father and this woman were at the altar, 902 00:38:06,752 --> 00:38:10,053 and I remember my father, 903 00:38:10,155 --> 00:38:12,489 you know, asked for this moment of silence 904 00:38:12,591 --> 00:38:17,060 within the group to honor and remember hef. 905 00:38:17,162 --> 00:38:22,299 And he asked the orchestra who is there to please play, 906 00:38:22,401 --> 00:38:25,035 you know, hefner's favorite song. 907 00:38:25,137 --> 00:38:29,506 And my father, you know, had tears at the altar. 908 00:38:29,608 --> 00:38:31,074 ♪ ♪ 909 00:38:31,176 --> 00:38:34,144 and I just remember being 910 00:38:34,246 --> 00:38:37,514 just so, you know, surprised this was happening. 911 00:38:37,616 --> 00:38:39,082 Like, we're basically celebrating somebody 912 00:38:39,184 --> 00:38:41,217 who's not here. 913 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,486 We're celebrating hef. 914 00:38:43,588 --> 00:38:44,587 ♪ ♪ 915 00:38:44,690 --> 00:38:46,656 and I just remember looking at everybody. 916 00:38:46,758 --> 00:38:50,493 All the mansion regulars were there 917 00:38:50,595 --> 00:38:52,028 with their playboy pins, 918 00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:53,496 and there was just something about it 919 00:38:53,598 --> 00:38:57,367 that just reminded me 920 00:38:57,469 --> 00:39:00,070 of being in this sort of, like, private cult. 921 00:39:00,172 --> 00:39:03,506 Everyone in this environment put hef on a pedestal 922 00:39:03,608 --> 00:39:07,010 and everything he believed in on a pedestal. 923 00:39:07,112 --> 00:39:08,178 I just felt alone. 924 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,247 I felt like I was the only one 925 00:39:11,350 --> 00:39:14,384 seeing playboy for what it is. 926 00:39:14,486 --> 00:39:16,319 ♪ ♪ 927 00:39:16,421 --> 00:39:19,289 when I see this, it reiterates in my mind even more 928 00:39:19,391 --> 00:39:20,724 that it wasn't about connection. 929 00:39:20,826 --> 00:39:23,526 I do believe that with all these men, 930 00:39:23,628 --> 00:39:26,763 it was really about knowing 931 00:39:26,865 --> 00:39:30,667 that you had power over someone else. 932 00:39:30,769 --> 00:39:33,470 And my father, although he played a role, 933 00:39:33,572 --> 00:39:38,141 he still wasn't the master puppeteer. 934 00:39:38,243 --> 00:39:40,677 - One man did this-- hugh hefner. 935 00:39:40,779 --> 00:39:43,213 - Instead of giving the young women 936 00:39:43,315 --> 00:39:45,682 the right to consent to any of it, 937 00:39:45,784 --> 00:39:46,416 he simply took it. 938 00:39:46,518 --> 00:39:47,650 - When I was 18 years old, 939 00:39:47,753 --> 00:39:52,188 I didn't get the opportunity that night in hef's room 940 00:39:52,290 --> 00:39:54,090 to make any choice. 941 00:39:54,192 --> 00:39:57,627 People should know he was not a hero. 942 00:39:57,729 --> 00:40:00,196 - He was a predator. That's what he was. 943 00:40:00,298 --> 00:40:05,368 Let's get it out in the open. It's time to talk about it. 944 00:40:05,470 --> 00:40:07,537 ♪ ♪ 945 00:40:47,412 --> 00:40:48,878 for god sakes, 946 00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:51,347 it's time for the playboy women to come forward. 947 00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:53,316 - This whole thing that had to be a secret, 948 00:40:53,418 --> 00:40:55,385 I've got to tell somebody. 949 00:40:55,487 --> 00:40:57,086 - It wasn't just hefner's buddies, 950 00:40:57,189 --> 00:40:58,354 the big vips. 951 00:40:58,457 --> 00:41:01,090 It was hugh hefner himself. 952 00:41:01,193 --> 00:41:03,026 I think he hated women underneath it all. 953 00:41:03,128 --> 00:41:04,227 - It was a total giveaway 954 00:41:04,329 --> 00:41:05,962 when he brought out his skeleton key and he told me, 955 00:41:06,064 --> 00:41:10,333 why wouldn't I want a key to every room in this house? 956 00:41:10,435 --> 00:41:11,701 - There was nothing in the relationship with dorothy 957 00:41:11,803 --> 00:41:12,936 that I am less than proud of. 958 00:41:13,038 --> 00:41:16,873 - Dorothy stratten-- she was psychically destroyed. 959 00:41:16,975 --> 00:41:17,740 - Hold hef accountable. 960 00:41:17,843 --> 00:41:20,443 - Hefner was a sexual predator... 961 00:41:20,545 --> 00:41:26,416 That didn't care who he damaged.