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DIANA WILLIAMS: People talk
about how there's a fear of
change.

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I disagree.
It's not the change

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that people are fearful
of, it's the actual transition,

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because that
transition is muddy,

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it is opaque, it is scary,
it is messy.

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And right now, we're in
scary, messy, opaque period

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before we get to change.

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REBECCA KEEGAN: As the
international box office has
gotten more important,

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as movies based on
preexisting intellectual
properties

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have gotten
more important,

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the movie business--
and it is business, you know--

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the movie business, it's still
in these big tent-pole movies

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that cost more than
200 million dollars.

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[roaring]

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It's important, though, I think,
that women participate

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in those big, expensive movies,

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because they are such
a central part of the business.

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REPORTER: It was a wonderful
weekend for "Wonder Woman."

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The superheroine shattered
the box office,

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raking in 223 million dollars in
the U.S. and foreign markets--

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the highest opening weekend ever
for a movie

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made by a female director.

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REPORTER: It's a huge win
for women in Hollywood

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who can now hang their hat
on a multipronged victory--

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female director,
female protagonist,

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big-budget superhero film,

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a genre always reserved
for the boys.

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GINA PRINCE-BYTHEWOOD: I
will always give praise to
Patty.

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The amount of pressure she
was under to get that right.

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Like, she absolutely
opened the doors.

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It's on us now.
When you get through that door,

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give it everything you have,

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because that keeps that door--
it keeps it open

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and maybe pushes it open even a
little wider for the next one.

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NISHA GANATRA: Movies are judged
by their opening weekend

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and how economically successful
they are.

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And I always said
that I go to movies

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and I look at
it like voting.

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You know, so if I go
opening weekend,

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of course I want to see,
you know, the big "Avengers"
movie.

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But I'll always go opening
weekend to the smaller indie
film,

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because then I'm telling
Hollywood, basically,

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please make more
movies like this.

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Otherwise, it's gonna be all big
superhero movies all the time,

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which, I love a superhero movie,

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but we need
some other movies too.

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MINNIE DRIVER: Movie
studios always say

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they're only giving people
what people want.

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I fundamentally
disagree with that.

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I believe if you feed people
subpar stuff,

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they'll get used to it, and
they'll say that's what they
want.

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If you start offering up things
that require a level

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of intellectual connection,

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that people will want more of
that, but you gotta offer it up.

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And I think that women
are a key to that.

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NISHA: There are so many
stupid committees,

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and conversations,
and initiatives,

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and fucking, like,
all this bullshit talking.

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Just hire women.
Just, that's it!

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Like, you want to make it 50/50?

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Give us a job,
and that's it, done.

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And you might screw up.
Like, guess what?

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David Fincher had some shitty
films in the beginning too that
bombed.

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But you kept hiring him.

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So, like, give some women
some chances.

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REBECCA: Some people got used
to having, like, the whole cake.

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And now, they're slicing
more pieces for more people,

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and it just, I think to some
people, it's like, "Wait, wait,
whoa!

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I used to get this whole cake,
and now... that little piece?"

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RACHAEL HOROVITZ: Men have the
cake because men were given the
cake.

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Women baked it
and gave it to them.

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And that's, you know,
that's gonna be a while

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before, like,
men figure out

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that, you know,
somebody baked that cake.

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MICHELLE RODRIGUEZ: When women
throw away the idea

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that has been perpetuated by men

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of what they're supposed
to be as women,

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and discover
for themselves,

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because they're allowed
to discover for themselves,

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what that truly is,

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I think women
are gonna get in touch

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with something very powerful

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that they haven't been able
to get in touch with

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because they've been
too busy trying to survive.

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KARYN KUSAMA: The model
in a typical hierarchical,

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patriarchal system,

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is that women who ascend
to places of power

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have to naturally be more
competitive with each other.

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And then, I think there's this
whole other kind of woman

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who works in the business
who is like,

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"I'm gonna make more room
for not just myself,

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but for all these other women."

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ADELE LIM: We are all we have.

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If we don't fight for
ourselves, who's going to fight
for us?

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It's not going to
be on the good will

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of some white knight
who's gonna come to our rescue.

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We have to--
we have to fight for it,

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like every inch of the way.

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MAHA DAKHIL JACKSON: In a town
that used to blacklist people,

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you cannot underestimate
the courage it takes

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to take that platform
and put it on the line

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for feminism, for equality.

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ZACKARY DRUCKER: It takes
all of us doing our part.

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This is my one
life to live,

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and I got things to do,
I have things to say.

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I want to be out there,
I'm not gonna wait.

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MATTHEW BELLONI: There is a
culture of fear throughout
Hollywood right now.

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And I've heard it from
many, many men in power.

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They know they are
being scrutinized.

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Abuse has not gone away,

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and inappropriate and harassing
behavior has not gone away.

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But there is a sense that there
will be accountability now,

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and people are less afraid
to speak up.

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Until we stop expecting men
to behave in a certain way--

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on movie sets, in board rooms--

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until they stop believing
they have to behave that way,

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I don't know that it changes.

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We can carry on
our evolution as women

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in the way that we want to
behave and move through the
world.

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But it's so interesting how men
feel like that if they admit

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that change is due or needed,
it's an admission of guilt,

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as opposed to just seeing it
as an evolution.

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Like, I don't think it's wrong
that I don't have a tail
anymore.

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Like, just my spine evolved on.
I don't need it anymore.

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Don't mourn it,
just get on with it.

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Get on with it being different.

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KIERSEY CLEMONS: I think about
leaving the business all of the
time

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in terms of not just
the microaggressions

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and violence against me
as a woman,

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but also as a Black person,
and as a queer person.

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And I always go over in my mind,
like, oh, that's what the system
wants.

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So, I have to continue
to tell my stories

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in whichever way possible.

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ADELE: Here's the
paradox of Hollywood,

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which is, it can be such a
complete nightmare behind the
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but it's magic.

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It's still magic,
and you wanna be part of it.