1 00:00:04,047 --> 00:00:05,798 I remember when I took my high heels off 2 00:00:05,798 --> 00:00:08,468 on the red carpet one year, 3 00:00:08,468 --> 00:00:11,471 and I mean, the poor assistant publicist 4 00:00:11,471 --> 00:00:13,473 who was there, she was like, "Oh, God, Minnie, please! 5 00:00:13,473 --> 00:00:15,308 Please, put your shoes back on. Please, put 'em back on." 6 00:00:15,308 --> 00:00:17,060 I was like, "It's really fine." 7 00:00:17,060 --> 00:00:18,311 "Oh my God, just please tell me you had a pedicure." 8 00:00:18,311 --> 00:00:19,937 "Yeah, no, we're all good. 9 00:00:19,937 --> 00:00:22,106 "I don't have Hobbit feet today, love. 10 00:00:22,106 --> 00:00:24,817 "But these fucking shoes are killing me, 11 00:00:24,817 --> 00:00:26,652 "and I can't do it anymore. 12 00:00:26,652 --> 00:00:29,781 Don't worry, your job is safe." 13 00:00:29,781 --> 00:00:34,494 But the level of panic attached to any woman breaking rank 14 00:00:34,494 --> 00:00:39,373 and not looking the prescribed way, 15 00:00:39,373 --> 00:00:44,712 I mean, it just makes you wish everyone was Bjork 16 00:00:44,712 --> 00:00:46,005 wearing a swan. 17 00:00:56,432 --> 00:00:59,435 - Absolutely gorgeous! - Thank you, so do you. 18 00:00:59,435 --> 00:01:01,354 - I mean, that stunning dress. - Thank you so much. 19 00:01:01,354 --> 00:01:04,941 And in it, girl, you look hot throughout. 20 00:01:04,941 --> 00:01:07,610 Award season is a big deal in Hollywood, 21 00:01:07,610 --> 00:01:10,822 and sex appeal is a big part of the PR push, 22 00:01:10,822 --> 00:01:13,491 especially for actresses walking the red carpet. 23 00:01:16,369 --> 00:01:17,870 When I was promoting "Slumdog," 24 00:01:17,870 --> 00:01:19,622 Dev would always get asked questions 25 00:01:19,622 --> 00:01:21,916 about his past project, "Skins," 26 00:01:21,916 --> 00:01:25,044 or how-- how was it working with Danny Boyle? 27 00:01:25,044 --> 00:01:28,422 And-- and I would always get asked what I was wearing. 28 00:01:28,422 --> 00:01:29,298 What are you wearing? - I'm joking. 29 00:01:29,298 --> 00:01:30,925 John Galliano. 30 00:01:30,925 --> 00:01:33,469 And so, pretty early on, I was programmed 31 00:01:33,469 --> 00:01:36,514 to think that that's how it goes, so I would smile and like, you know, 32 00:01:36,514 --> 00:01:39,058 do the, like, little head tilt, and tell them what I was wearing. 33 00:01:39,058 --> 00:01:40,434 - Tell me about your dress. - Who are you wearing? 34 00:01:40,434 --> 00:01:42,228 I'm loving this Prada dress. 35 00:01:42,228 --> 00:01:43,646 Just wanna know the dress for "InStyle" real quick. 36 00:01:43,646 --> 00:01:45,273 Oh, it's Elie Saab. 37 00:01:45,273 --> 00:01:47,400 Sometimes a journalist on the red carpet 38 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,277 has just one question to ask, 39 00:01:49,277 --> 00:01:50,778 and you wanna talk about your movie, 40 00:01:50,778 --> 00:01:52,446 and you wanna talk about your character. 41 00:01:52,446 --> 00:01:54,866 And that question is always about clothes. 42 00:01:54,866 --> 00:01:58,661 Do-- I'm just wondering, do you do that to the guys? 43 00:01:58,661 --> 00:02:00,746 Yes, yes we do. - It's a thing that's just-- 44 00:02:00,746 --> 00:02:02,748 it just happens. 45 00:02:02,748 --> 00:02:04,250 What do you think's gonna happen down there 46 00:02:04,250 --> 00:02:06,961 that is so fascinating? 47 00:02:06,961 --> 00:02:09,797 It's just, I guess, the culture that we live in. 48 00:02:09,797 --> 00:02:11,549 Do you wanna do the Mani-Cam so we can see your jewels, 49 00:02:11,549 --> 00:02:13,050 - or your mani, or no? - No, no Mani-Cam. 50 00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:14,719 No? Okay, well, we won't do that. 51 00:02:14,719 --> 00:02:16,971 I knew the jig was up with the Mani-Cam. 52 00:02:16,971 --> 00:02:19,307 It was literally, like, you'd put your hand 53 00:02:19,307 --> 00:02:23,227 inside a thing that would do a close-up of your manicure. 54 00:02:23,227 --> 00:02:25,730 Oh, I don't-- no, I'm not doing that. 55 00:02:25,730 --> 00:02:29,150 I'm here on this carpet to talk about the film that I made 56 00:02:29,150 --> 00:02:31,444 that I've been nominated for this award, 57 00:02:31,444 --> 00:02:34,822 and you want me to talk about nail polish. 58 00:02:34,822 --> 00:02:36,949 No. 59 00:02:36,949 --> 00:02:38,910 I mean, what, the revolution starts here? 60 00:02:38,910 --> 00:02:42,830 Saying no to the Mani-Cam? Jesus Christ. 61 00:02:42,830 --> 00:02:44,999 It's culminated in a social media campaign 62 00:02:44,999 --> 00:02:47,543 called Ask Her More. 63 00:02:47,543 --> 00:02:49,212 We wanna know about the ladies in the dress. 64 00:02:49,212 --> 00:02:51,130 We wanna know about their passions, 65 00:02:51,130 --> 00:02:52,924 and what they're excited about, and what books they're reading. 66 00:02:52,924 --> 00:02:54,634 She suffered from depression. 67 00:02:54,634 --> 00:02:56,677 How did you find the balance in this role? 68 00:02:56,677 --> 00:02:58,930 I was watching or listening to something 69 00:02:58,930 --> 00:03:00,431 where they actually-- they compared you 70 00:03:00,431 --> 00:03:02,183 and your work to Meryl Streep. 71 00:03:02,183 --> 00:03:04,310 What's your reaction to something like that? 72 00:03:04,310 --> 00:03:05,937 Have you heard from families who are saying, "Hey, thank you"? 73 00:03:05,937 --> 00:03:09,148 It just requires education. 74 00:03:09,148 --> 00:03:12,026 You know, it requires having thoughtful conversations with press 75 00:03:12,026 --> 00:03:14,820 about the things they should ask. 76 00:03:14,820 --> 00:03:17,531 And it's empowering to clients on those red carpets 77 00:03:17,531 --> 00:03:20,826 to not feel obligated to do the twirl 78 00:03:20,826 --> 00:03:21,911 or the over-the-shoulder. 79 00:03:24,330 --> 00:03:26,457 One of Hollywood's most famous parties 80 00:03:26,457 --> 00:03:28,209 turned into a protest Sunday night. 81 00:03:28,209 --> 00:03:30,127 Time's up! 82 00:03:30,127 --> 00:03:33,047 Time's Up, which began as a meeting 83 00:03:33,047 --> 00:03:35,508 of Hollywood women last fall 84 00:03:35,508 --> 00:03:38,052 to address sexual harassment in the workplace, 85 00:03:38,052 --> 00:03:42,431 has become a movement for victims everywhere. 86 00:03:42,431 --> 00:03:44,433 Time's Up was an awakening. 87 00:03:44,433 --> 00:03:48,104 It was a gut reaction to collective trauma 88 00:03:48,104 --> 00:03:51,065 from true survivors, 89 00:03:51,065 --> 00:03:53,943 and then just being a woman in the world. 90 00:03:53,943 --> 00:03:56,320 Right at that Golden Globes, 91 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,615 I started getting talking points from publicists saying, 92 00:03:59,615 --> 00:04:04,829 "Please ask my client about pay equity, sexual harassment," 93 00:04:04,829 --> 00:04:06,872 which are the very things I've been trying to ask them about 94 00:04:06,872 --> 00:04:09,917 for a decade, and being told, 95 00:04:09,917 --> 00:04:11,961 "She doesn't wanna talk about that on the record." 96 00:04:11,961 --> 00:04:13,838 Time's Up became an advocate 97 00:04:13,838 --> 00:04:16,340 and a little bit of a watchdog. It's like, these are the things. 98 00:04:16,340 --> 00:04:22,013 We're gonna keep pointing out the bullshit 99 00:04:22,013 --> 00:04:25,766 that goes on, both conscious and unconscious, 100 00:04:25,766 --> 00:04:27,393 but it's bullshit. 101 00:04:27,393 --> 00:04:29,478 Two years after the start of the Me Too movement, 102 00:04:29,478 --> 00:04:31,605 a record number of women 103 00:04:31,605 --> 00:04:34,317 brought big films to life in 2019. 104 00:04:34,317 --> 00:04:37,403 Yet, none is being recognized. 105 00:04:37,403 --> 00:04:39,613 Awards in general, and the Oscars in particular, 106 00:04:39,613 --> 00:04:41,991 are extremely important. 107 00:04:41,991 --> 00:04:44,910 It is an objective marker of quality and success 108 00:04:44,910 --> 00:04:47,371 that everybody in the industry can hang their hat on. 109 00:04:47,371 --> 00:04:49,040 But the fact of the matter is, 110 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,001 the people who are deciding on these awards 111 00:04:52,001 --> 00:04:54,587 are overwhelmingly white, overwhelmingly male. 112 00:04:54,587 --> 00:04:57,673 It's baked into the system that the male sensibility 113 00:04:57,673 --> 00:04:59,759 is what is determining quality, 114 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:03,220 and those awards then determine opportunity. 115 00:05:03,220 --> 00:05:05,139 In response to Oscars So White, 116 00:05:05,139 --> 00:05:07,475 the Academy set a goal of doubling the number of women 117 00:05:07,475 --> 00:05:09,643 and minority members by 2020. 118 00:05:09,643 --> 00:05:12,188 It has already partially succeeded. 119 00:05:12,188 --> 00:05:16,108 16% of members are now people of color, up from 8%. 120 00:05:16,108 --> 00:05:17,943 But female membership only rose 121 00:05:17,943 --> 00:05:21,197 from 25% to 32%. 122 00:05:21,197 --> 00:05:23,699 In the last few years, the Academy has made 123 00:05:23,699 --> 00:05:26,952 a very dramatic effort to diversify. 124 00:05:26,952 --> 00:05:30,039 But the challenge for the Academy is they're drawing from an industry 125 00:05:30,039 --> 00:05:32,833 that has the same inclusion issues. 126 00:05:32,833 --> 00:05:35,378 If the studios and the independents 127 00:05:35,378 --> 00:05:39,924 don't give women and people of color a chance, 128 00:05:39,924 --> 00:05:42,843 the Academy can't say, "Oh, well, if you made a film, 129 00:05:42,843 --> 00:05:45,012 we'd be happy to," you know. 130 00:05:45,012 --> 00:05:47,556 Because the Academy only is looking 131 00:05:47,556 --> 00:05:51,394 at the best material that's out there. 132 00:05:51,394 --> 00:05:53,938 A lot of the men that win these awards 133 00:05:53,938 --> 00:05:56,107 have done these amazing movies, and a lot of them 134 00:05:56,107 --> 00:05:59,860 come from fantastic source material, which is great. 135 00:05:59,860 --> 00:06:03,239 It costs a million dollars to option that book, or whatever. 136 00:06:03,239 --> 00:06:06,492 And then they had a wonderful producer, 137 00:06:06,492 --> 00:06:09,412 producing team, and a studio backing them-- great. 138 00:06:09,412 --> 00:06:12,873 That takes a lot of support to get to the level of a movie 139 00:06:12,873 --> 00:06:15,835 that would be considered for Best Picture. 140 00:06:15,835 --> 00:06:19,797 The distributor plays such a crucial role, 141 00:06:19,797 --> 00:06:22,258 because an awards campaign is very expensive. 142 00:06:22,258 --> 00:06:25,302 All of the ads, all of the press, 143 00:06:25,302 --> 00:06:27,888 all of the screenings then drive 144 00:06:27,888 --> 00:06:30,015 Academy voters, 145 00:06:30,015 --> 00:06:31,725 and the Hollywood Foreign Press, 146 00:06:31,725 --> 00:06:34,145 and all of the other sort of voting organizations 147 00:06:34,145 --> 00:06:36,105 to want to see your movie. 148 00:06:36,105 --> 00:06:38,399 It's a huge amount of money, and a huge machine. 149 00:06:38,399 --> 00:06:40,693 It is hard to get that level of support 150 00:06:40,693 --> 00:06:42,862 so they can get into that tier 151 00:06:42,862 --> 00:06:45,239 of top ten best films that year. 152 00:06:45,239 --> 00:06:48,409 We have to break out of the old definition of "best," 153 00:06:48,409 --> 00:06:51,829 and we have to say best might be a fresh voice, 154 00:06:51,829 --> 00:06:53,831 a different voice, a diverse voice. 155 00:06:56,083 --> 00:06:59,670 The Academy released a new set of guidelines 156 00:06:59,670 --> 00:07:02,715 that says in order to be nominated for Best Picture, 157 00:07:02,715 --> 00:07:06,719 you have to adhere to these guidelines for diversity. 158 00:07:06,719 --> 00:07:11,056 There's a lot of different ways you can satisfy the requirements. 159 00:07:11,056 --> 00:07:14,393 But it is, by far, the most aggressive thing 160 00:07:14,393 --> 00:07:18,606 that Hollywood has seen to promote inclusive casting 161 00:07:18,606 --> 00:07:20,774 and inclusive people behind the scenes on movies. 162 00:07:20,774 --> 00:07:24,487 The Academy derives most of its revenue 163 00:07:24,487 --> 00:07:27,656 from the Academy Awards, their telecast. 164 00:07:27,656 --> 00:07:31,452 If that is perceived as out of touch, 165 00:07:31,452 --> 00:07:36,081 if people don't see themselves on that stage, 166 00:07:36,081 --> 00:07:37,791 that's bad for the Academy's business. 167 00:07:39,919 --> 00:07:43,839 Awards can mean the difference between a project 168 00:07:43,839 --> 00:07:46,926 getting seen widely, globally. 169 00:07:46,926 --> 00:07:49,512 It creates opportunity for everyone involved, 170 00:07:49,512 --> 00:07:53,098 from behind the scenes to in front of the camera. 171 00:07:53,098 --> 00:07:56,852 There are very few opportunities for women in the business, 172 00:07:56,852 --> 00:07:59,980 and that nomination, or that win, 173 00:07:59,980 --> 00:08:03,526 will definitely get your phone ringing. 174 00:08:03,526 --> 00:08:05,736 Hollywood is at a turning point right now. 175 00:08:05,736 --> 00:08:08,781 There is a reckoning going on at every level. 176 00:08:08,781 --> 00:08:10,908 What kind of stories does Hollywood want to tell, 177 00:08:10,908 --> 00:08:13,244 and how does it navigate the new rules 178 00:08:13,244 --> 00:08:15,579 about workplace behavior between the genders? 179 00:08:15,579 --> 00:08:16,372 That's what we all wanna find out.