1 00:00:01,335 --> 00:00:03,129 [soft music] 2 00:00:08,259 --> 00:00:13,931 KARYN KUSAMA: Hollywood, it's an industry powered on fantasy. 3 00:00:13,931 --> 00:00:16,517 It's the collective fantasies of the audience. 4 00:00:16,517 --> 00:00:18,644 It's the collective fantasies of the filmmakers. 5 00:00:20,188 --> 00:00:22,523 All of us are in this... 6 00:00:22,523 --> 00:00:24,859 unconscious soup 7 00:00:24,859 --> 00:00:29,906 in which we are attempting to claim 8 00:00:29,906 --> 00:00:31,866 our piece of a dream. 9 00:00:34,077 --> 00:00:37,789 This is so much a business 10 00:00:37,789 --> 00:00:40,833 built on who has the power 11 00:00:40,833 --> 00:00:43,169 to enact... 12 00:00:43,169 --> 00:00:46,005 and execute on that collective fantasy. 13 00:00:48,341 --> 00:00:52,053 And so what I would say, the beast of Hollywood 14 00:00:52,053 --> 00:00:55,515 and the thing that it's reckoning with at this very moment 15 00:00:55,515 --> 00:00:58,392 is, what is our relationship to power? 16 00:00:58,392 --> 00:01:01,020 And does power have anything to do 17 00:01:01,020 --> 00:01:02,480 with the creative impulse? 18 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,483 [music] 19 00:01:10,238 --> 00:01:12,073 REBECCA KEEGAN: Hollywood on-screen is all about 20 00:01:12,073 --> 00:01:14,283 sex and glamor and excitement, 21 00:01:14,283 --> 00:01:16,244 but the hard reality is, 22 00:01:16,244 --> 00:01:18,621 it's a multi-billion dollar business. 23 00:01:18,621 --> 00:01:20,581 And, like any big business, 24 00:01:20,581 --> 00:01:22,542 it has its own unique power structure. 25 00:01:22,542 --> 00:01:25,128 The stakes are so high 26 00:01:25,128 --> 00:01:27,922 because movies cost hundreds of millions of dollars, 27 00:01:27,922 --> 00:01:30,925 and they're seen by millions of people all over the world. 28 00:01:30,925 --> 00:01:34,595 - I grew up in a different country, and my views of the world 29 00:01:34,595 --> 00:01:36,597 were shaped by Hollywood. 30 00:01:36,597 --> 00:01:38,808 With the amount of content we are all consuming, 31 00:01:38,808 --> 00:01:42,728 how we view the world is absolutely dictated by Hollywood. 32 00:01:42,728 --> 00:01:44,605 For us to pretend otherwise is ridiculous and nĂ¯ve. 33 00:01:46,899 --> 00:01:48,609 FREIDA PINTO: The whole world looks up to Hollywood, and it's 34 00:01:48,609 --> 00:01:51,737 a very shiny little piece of... a dream. 35 00:01:51,737 --> 00:01:54,115 [laughing] And if you get it, wow. 36 00:01:54,115 --> 00:01:56,409 Pretty much from my first film, 37 00:01:56,409 --> 00:01:59,245 I was starting at the highest high you can think of. 38 00:01:59,245 --> 00:02:04,834 I compare that entire experience to the "Alice in Wonderland" effect. 39 00:02:04,834 --> 00:02:08,337 Everything is big and large and.. deep and wide 40 00:02:08,337 --> 00:02:10,631 and colorful and scary, 41 00:02:10,631 --> 00:02:13,843 and... it's all happening at the same time. 42 00:02:13,843 --> 00:02:16,846 So, the feeling was truly like, 43 00:02:16,846 --> 00:02:19,015 "I'm in a fairy tale land." 44 00:02:19,015 --> 00:02:20,433 [chuckling] That's what it is. 45 00:02:23,686 --> 00:02:26,063 MATTHEW BELLONI: The dynamic of sex in Hollywood 46 00:02:26,063 --> 00:02:29,817 plays out in dollars and cents. 47 00:02:29,817 --> 00:02:33,529 There, for decades, has been an expectation 48 00:02:33,529 --> 00:02:36,365 that certain types of roles, 49 00:02:36,365 --> 00:02:40,494 from women, are more likely to lead to box office. 50 00:02:40,494 --> 00:02:42,830 Everything from the definition of, you know, 51 00:02:42,830 --> 00:02:45,291 the bombshell, the femme fatale, 52 00:02:45,291 --> 00:02:47,335 You know, all of these types of monikers 53 00:02:47,335 --> 00:02:49,545 lead to the presumption 54 00:02:49,545 --> 00:02:52,840 that the woman in the movie is going to be sexy. 55 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,052 - We're used to women being objectified on-screen. 56 00:02:56,052 --> 00:03:00,431 And in fact, we get trained to think that that is quality. 57 00:03:00,431 --> 00:03:04,435 That the way these... mostly male directors 58 00:03:04,435 --> 00:03:08,397 shoot women is the best way to shoot women. 59 00:03:13,611 --> 00:03:15,613 - Hollywood has played a big part 60 00:03:15,613 --> 00:03:18,157 in shaping our views on sex and sexuality. 61 00:03:18,157 --> 00:03:19,742 If it is being created, it's gotta be 62 00:03:19,742 --> 00:03:22,203 some sort of reflection on society. 63 00:03:22,203 --> 00:03:25,206 And if it is a lens that looks at women 64 00:03:25,206 --> 00:03:28,501 that is intrusive and voyeuristic, 65 00:03:28,501 --> 00:03:31,879 then it's because that's how society has 66 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:33,256 seen the women in the world as. 67 00:03:36,384 --> 00:03:38,094 MATTHEW: Sex is Hollywood's main currency 68 00:03:38,094 --> 00:03:40,304 in the sense that it powers 69 00:03:40,304 --> 00:03:42,974 a lot of the images we see, 70 00:03:42,974 --> 00:03:45,268 a lot of the relationships that are depicted, 71 00:03:45,268 --> 00:03:48,396 and who is allowed to be in these movies. 72 00:03:50,856 --> 00:03:52,817 TRACEY GOESSEL: There are women and men in the industry 73 00:03:52,817 --> 00:03:54,735 who achieve their fame, 74 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:57,029 their power, their wealth, 75 00:03:57,029 --> 00:03:59,365 through the sexuality 76 00:03:59,365 --> 00:04:03,703 of their bodies and their being. 77 00:04:03,703 --> 00:04:07,957 KIERSEY CLEMONS: I found strength in trying to do 78 00:04:07,957 --> 00:04:10,209 the "sex sells" thing. 79 00:04:10,209 --> 00:04:12,753 I did what everyone was telling me to do, 80 00:04:12,753 --> 00:04:15,923 but the people that wanna groom you and get you to that place, 81 00:04:15,923 --> 00:04:18,968 they don't let it go easily. 82 00:04:22,471 --> 00:04:26,309 MATTHEW: Abuses of power and sex are baked into the industry. 83 00:04:26,309 --> 00:04:29,937 From the very beginning, there was this group of men, 84 00:04:29,937 --> 00:04:32,565 and they were all men, who were making decisions 85 00:04:32,565 --> 00:04:36,235 about who got to be a star and who didn't get to be a star. 86 00:04:36,235 --> 00:04:38,237 And when you have those kinds of situations, 87 00:04:38,237 --> 00:04:41,282 it breeds abuses of power. 88 00:04:41,282 --> 00:04:46,871 RACHAEL HOROVITZ: One of the ways that my whole career flourished-- 89 00:04:46,871 --> 00:04:49,040 and please don't take this the wrong way-- 90 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,710 but being quote-unquote "attractive" 91 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:55,755 was a big factor. 92 00:04:55,755 --> 00:04:59,633 And that is just less true for men. 93 00:04:59,633 --> 00:05:02,553 Men can look like anything, 94 00:05:02,553 --> 00:05:04,722 and, if they're liked, 95 00:05:04,722 --> 00:05:06,974 they do well. 96 00:05:06,974 --> 00:05:10,770 For women, 99% of being liked 97 00:05:10,770 --> 00:05:12,563 is being physically appealing 98 00:05:12,563 --> 00:05:14,190 and not threatening. 99 00:05:16,901 --> 00:05:19,278 MATTHEW: A lot of people have been mistreated by Hollywood. 100 00:05:19,278 --> 00:05:21,322 There is a long, long history of people being mistreated. 101 00:05:21,322 --> 00:05:23,908 I think, as a category of men, 102 00:05:23,908 --> 00:05:27,119 I think gay men have really been mistreated. 103 00:05:27,119 --> 00:05:29,955 For women, obviously, it's much worse. 104 00:05:29,955 --> 00:05:31,123 - The new headline tonight, involving one of the most 105 00:05:31,123 --> 00:05:33,000 powerful figures in Hollywood. 106 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,919 Several allegations of sexual harassment 107 00:05:34,919 --> 00:05:36,754 against movie producer Harvey Weinstein. 108 00:05:36,754 --> 00:05:38,714 REPORTER: After years of denial 109 00:05:38,714 --> 00:05:41,384 and claims that the encounter was consensual, 110 00:05:41,384 --> 00:05:45,054 Bill Cosby for the first time faces criminal charges. 111 00:05:45,054 --> 00:05:48,057 - One of television's most powerful executives has resigned. 112 00:05:48,057 --> 00:05:51,227 CBS chairman and CEO Les Moonves 113 00:05:51,227 --> 00:05:53,312 has been forced to step down 114 00:05:53,312 --> 00:05:56,065 after more allegations of sexual misconduct. 115 00:05:56,065 --> 00:05:59,068 KIERSEY: The way that #MeToo happened 116 00:05:59,068 --> 00:06:02,321 and the way that women are... 117 00:06:02,321 --> 00:06:04,490 earning respect right now in the industry 118 00:06:04,490 --> 00:06:06,826 is through... 119 00:06:06,826 --> 00:06:08,744 these men being afraid. 120 00:06:08,744 --> 00:06:10,871 They didn't do it because they made the choice to, 121 00:06:10,871 --> 00:06:13,290 'cause they thought we deserve respect. 122 00:06:13,290 --> 00:06:17,336 They're doing it 'cause they're afraid that we're gonna tweet about them. 123 00:06:17,336 --> 00:06:20,923 - There's a boys' club that is safe and secure, 124 00:06:20,923 --> 00:06:22,883 and they take care of each other, 125 00:06:22,883 --> 00:06:25,511 and I'm actually not saying that that's not a nice thing. 126 00:06:25,511 --> 00:06:28,013 That's a very nice way to feel. 127 00:06:28,013 --> 00:06:30,808 There is not a girls' club... 128 00:06:30,808 --> 00:06:33,894 that makes you feel anything other than shatter-able, 129 00:06:33,894 --> 00:06:36,647 fragile, breakable. 130 00:06:36,647 --> 00:06:40,568 MAHA DAKHIL JACKSON: What we want is... pretty basic. 131 00:06:40,568 --> 00:06:42,778 And we don't have what's pretty basic, 132 00:06:42,778 --> 00:06:46,240 which is... a fair shot 133 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,200 at everything, all the time. 134 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,327 That's what we want. 135 00:06:50,327 --> 00:06:51,912 NISHA GANATRA: There's an awareness now 136 00:06:51,912 --> 00:06:54,957 of how discriminated female directors have been. 137 00:06:54,957 --> 00:06:58,294 I, and a lot of other women I know, 138 00:06:58,294 --> 00:07:01,172 had this moment where we thought, "Oh, it's not just me." 139 00:07:01,172 --> 00:07:03,716 I thought I wasn't able to break in, 140 00:07:03,716 --> 00:07:05,843 and I thought I wasn't doing anything right. 141 00:07:05,843 --> 00:07:07,970 And it turned out the cards were stacked against me. 142 00:07:10,139 --> 00:07:11,640 NINA MENKES: You didn't wanna talk about the fact 143 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,684 that you were discriminated against 144 00:07:13,684 --> 00:07:16,729 'cause you thought that it made you look weak, you know? 145 00:07:16,729 --> 00:07:18,189 Or, "Maybe I didn't work hard enough." 146 00:07:20,232 --> 00:07:22,443 DIANA WILLIAMS: I don't like to berate the past. 147 00:07:22,443 --> 00:07:24,862 The past is done, it's happened. 148 00:07:24,862 --> 00:07:26,822 We have... an opportunity now to kind of... 149 00:07:26,822 --> 00:07:30,075 to change our future. 150 00:07:30,075 --> 00:07:33,370 RACHAEL: We are at a moment right now 151 00:07:33,370 --> 00:07:36,582 where the old power structures 152 00:07:36,582 --> 00:07:40,294 are being re-examined. 153 00:07:40,294 --> 00:07:45,549 Whether change is really going to happen or not, 154 00:07:45,549 --> 00:07:49,261 I think, is still to be seen. 155 00:07:49,261 --> 00:07:53,974 - It's not to share these negative stories. 156 00:07:53,974 --> 00:07:56,727 To say, well, just, "Woe is me." 157 00:07:56,727 --> 00:08:00,648 It's not, it's: "Look at this boat we've all been in 158 00:08:00,648 --> 00:08:03,400 just because it's been a conditioning." 159 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,945 It's amazing, isn't it? 160 00:08:05,945 --> 00:08:09,365 2020? It's just now starting? 161 00:08:09,365 --> 00:08:11,659 [music]