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My son's killers were identified
13 years ago.

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I thought the killers
would just be arrested.

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Never expected getting justice
to be my job.

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Stephen's body was covered
in bruises and abrasions

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from being kicked and punched.

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There were two stab wounds, on the
right collarbone and left shoulder.

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We've found Stephen's blood.
Found it where?

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On Gary Dobson's jacket.

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We're looking at a 15-year game
of pass-the-parcel

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when it comes to exhibits.

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If I was the defence,

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I would be saying the blood stain
was the result of contamination.

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So why do you need me?

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Because forensics alone
won't be enough.

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The DPP has agreed
that we can charge Gary Dobson

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and David Norris
for Stephen's murder.

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I hope to execute the arrests
within the week.

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We're ready.

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OK?

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Yeah.
Yeah, just thought I should, er...

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you know.

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He's had a long wait.

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Today's the day.

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Today's the day.

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Let's get to work.

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The world and his dog knows that,
for the last five years,

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we've been investigating
young Stephen's murder.

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One of our suspects
is a definite flight risk,

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and if he gets a whiff
of what we're up to,

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he'll be on the first flight out
to Belarus.

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So, timeline.

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The targets themselves
are in two separate locations,

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so we need to synchronise
their arrests.

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Number one... is Gary Dobson.

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How are we gonna find him?
Yeah, yeah.

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He's, er, in Belmarsh,
doing a five-year stretch

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for trafficking
350Ks' worth of cannabis.

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To preserve
the secrecy of the operation,

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we won't execute the arrests until
he's out of earshot of the screws.

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Norris - bit more difficult.

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No fixed address.
He's been crashing at mates' houses.

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Currently residing in a room
above a pub in Greenwich.

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Once we pick him up,
we take him to Sutton nick,

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where there's a video link
to Camberwell Magistrates' Court,

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so we can get proceedings underway
as quickly as possible.

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So the boys at Sutton nick do know,
then?

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I'm glad you asked me that.

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Welcome to Operation Sirwoy -

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a highly sensitive action
against a Tamil drug gang

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operating out of East Ham.

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Well, we had to tell them something.
CHUCKLES

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Operation Sirwoy's targets
are Gurutither Dobaranga

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and Daaresh Nattar.

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GD and DN for short.

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Any questions?
Sirwoy?

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After Sir Roy Hodgson,

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who took Fulham FC
all the way to the UEFA Cup Final.

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You can be as indiscreet as you like
about Operation Sirwoy

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because, of course,
it doesn't actually exist.

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So, ladies and gentlemen,

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I'm gonna have to ask you all
to hand in your phones

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for the duration of this operation.

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Today, you'll be going out
to arrest Gary Dobson

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and David Norris on suspicion
of the murder of Stephen Lawrence.

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Good luck.

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You coming with?
Thought you'd hang back here.

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If this goes wrong,
I'm gonna answer for it myself.

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What's this all about?

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Police! Open the door.

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Hands behind your back. Stand still.

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David Norris, I'm arresting you

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on suspicion of the murder
of Stephen Lawrence.

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You do not have to say anything,
but it may harm your defence...

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..if you do not mention
when questioned

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something which you later rely on
in court.

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Anything you do say
may be given in evidence.

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This again? Sweet.

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For a minute there,
I thought it was something serious.

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The riot squad's a bit much, innit?

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Feel sorry for you.

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Wasting your time,
to be honest, mate.

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You could be out there,
chasing real criminals.

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Book him in, quick as you like.

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There's another one coming in
a minute, and I don't them to meet.

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So I suppose you won't be needing
the Tamil translator, then?

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Name?

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I'd like you to tell me how
Stephen Lawrence's hair was found

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on the jeans seized from
your bedroom on May 7th, 1993.

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No comment.

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I am asking you to account for the
presence of Stephen Lawrence's blood

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on a grey jacket
found in your possession

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at the time of your arrest.
No comment.

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Is there any account
that you can give us right now,

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so that we can go away
and prove your innocence?

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No comment.

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David Norris, you're charged that,
on the April 22nd, 1993,

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you did murder Stephen Lawrence,
contrary to common law.

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You do not have to say anything,
but it may harm your defence

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if you do not mention now something
which you later rely on in court.

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Anything you do say
may be given in evidence.

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Do you have any response, Gary,
to the charge of murder?

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Nothing whatever. No comment.

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Done?

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Done.

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Hello?

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'Mr Lawrence? It's Clive.'

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Clive.

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Oh, sorry.
I always forget the time difference.

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Is it...?
It's five in the morning. Go on?

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We arrested and remanded them
this morning.

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'We're going to trial.'

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Thank you, Clive.

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Now... Thank you.

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After a lifetime
of waiting,

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the parents of Stephen Lawrence
were in court today

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for the start of a trial of two men

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accused of stabbing
the Black teenager to death.

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What forensic scientists
found on clothes,

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including a bomber jacket and jeans
alleged to belong to the accused,

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Gary Dobson and David Norris,
is at the centre of this trial.

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The question facing the jury is how
the fibres and fragments got there.

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The prosecution case against
Gary Dobson and David Norris

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is that they participated in
a joint attack on Stephen Lawrence.

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This was a group
of likeminded young white men

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who acted together in
the execution of this attack as one

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on seeing two young Black men.

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The only discernible reason
for the attack

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was the colour of their skin.

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Members of the jury,
on the night of his murder,

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Stephen was wearing
a red polo shirt.

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Fibres from that shirt
were found on the clothing

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of both Dobson and Norris,

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and a human hair matching Stephen's
DNA was found on Norris' jeans,

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and a spec of Stephen's blood
was found on the collar

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of Dobson's jacket.

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The charge brought against
Gary Dobson

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is based on unreliable evidence.

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At the time Stephen Lawrence
was being attacked,

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Gary Dobson was at home,
at his parents' house.

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He is innocent of this charge.

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Now, the, er, papers in this case
are voluminous...

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..but the actual physical evidence
upon which this charge is based

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wouldn't fill a teaspoon.

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The truth is...

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that, in the 13 years preceding
this apparent forensic breakthrough,

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there were manifold opportunities

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for blood and fibres
from Stephen Lawrence

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to make their way
onto Gary Dobson's clothing.

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Members of the jury,
the simple fact is...  Clive.

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..David Norris was not in Eltham
on the night of April 22nd, 1993.

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The clothing seized from his home
did not belong to him.

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He is entirely innocent of...

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Sure.

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Yeah, bye.

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It's Duwayne.
What about him?

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He's here, isn't he? He's on soon.

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He's here, he's here,
but... his dad died.

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Oh, God.
He passed away last night.

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We'll just have to reschedule,
won't we?

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Let me talk to him.

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Here.

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Thank you.

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I wanna do this... for Steve.

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And you will, but, er...
take a few days, eh?

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I'm sure we can shuffle
things around.  I'm here now.

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It's amazing that you are,
and we're grateful.

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But this is gonna be tough.
No.

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They've been let off the hook
for long enough.

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I'm ready.

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I heard a voice from my left,
so I turned.

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These guys were
running across the road.

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One of them shouts,
"What, what, nigger?"

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I was afraid, so I ran.

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I shouted to Steve to run.

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I thought he was just behind me,
but when I turned...

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..when I turned around...

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The jury should be aware

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that Mr Brooks' father
sadly passed away last night.

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He has chosen to give evidence
as planned.

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If you require a break at any point,
Mr Brooks...

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I'm OK.

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The group converged on Steve.

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When I looked back,
I saw one of the guys had a weapon,

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ran straight into him, and then...

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..wham.

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Just like that.

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What was the approximate size
of the weapon you saw?

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It was about this big,
and it was shiny.

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But then Steve jumped up,
so I was relieved.

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He caught up, and we were running.

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We were both running.

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Then he kept asking me,
"What's wrong?

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"What's wrong with me?"

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That's when I saw blood
was streaming out

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from around his neck...

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..through... through his jacket.

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I'm sorry.

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We was running...

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..and Steve's blood
was dripping on the floor...

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Mr Brooks,
would you like to take a break?

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I can deal with this quite quickly.
No. No.

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I wanna say what happened.

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He kept saying to me,
"What's happened to me?"

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And I told him to just keep running

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because I was frightened that
the guys would come back round.

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He then said to me...
One last time, he said,

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"Duwayne..."
and his voice was all funny.

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And that's when he fell...
at the tree.

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Thank you, Mr Brooks.

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No further questions.

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Mr Brooks?

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Um...

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..you did him proud.

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I hope it works.

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It's time we had some justice.

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Come on, Mum.

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He was asking questions.

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Who was?
Your brother.

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He was scared.

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He wanted to know what was
happening, and I wasn't there to...

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..to answer him.

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Mum...

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I wasn't there...

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to hear him, to comfort him.

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The motive for the murder

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of the London teenager
Stephen Lawrence

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was set out in court today.

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It was, said the prosecution,
the colour of his skin.

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The jury heard how he was swallowed
up by a gang of white youths

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who had shouted a racist insult.

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Our crime correspondent Jon Clements
was at the Stephen Lawrence trial

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and heard today's evidence.

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You searched Mr Dobson's bedroom
on May 7th,

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seizing a cardigan and a jacket,
exhibit LH/5.

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Where did you find the jacket?

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It was in the wardrobe,
hanging up with some other clothes.

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I took it off the coat hanger,

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folded it up
and put it in an exhibits bag.

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Miss Holden... in your role
liaising with the victim's family,

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you visited the Lawrence household
on April 23rd, 1993,

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the day after Stephen died.

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Then again April 25th,
27th and 28th,

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with a final trip on April 29th.

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Is that correct?
That is correct.

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Hmm.

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When you searched
Mr Dobson's bedroom on May 7th,

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did you not think to yourself,
"Just a minute -

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"I was in the Lawrence household
just last week.

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"It might not be a good idea for me
to be at the two different scenes"?

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It was over a week later,
and I was wearing different clothes.

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Also, I do wash fairly frequently.

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Hm.

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I didn't think there was any risk
of contamination.

254
00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:10,360
Are you absolutely sure?

255
00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:12,360
And can you swear, on oath,

256
00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:14,400
that you didn't wear
any of the same clothing?

257
00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,920
Positive.

258
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,480
We're talking about events
almost 18 years ago.

259
00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,240
How can you be so sure?

260
00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,360
I knew I was going into a search,

261
00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:27,600
so I chose clothes that, if they got
soiled or whatever, didn't matter.

262
00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:39,520
We support Mr Roberts.

263
00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,920
The jury has been
sufficiently educated

264
00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,520
on the clear opportunities
for contamination.

265
00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:51,840
That didn't go too well today,
did it?

266
00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,640
The defence are just doing
their job, sowing doubt.

267
00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,160
Long way to go yet.

268
00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,600
The jury only wanna know one thing -
how did Stephen's blood get there?

269
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:05,400
In the end, they can't answer
that question, and we can, tomorrow.

270
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,320
I hope you're right.

271
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,600
Mr Jarman, you and your team
carried out microscopic analysis

272
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,000
of the suspects' clothing.

273
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,640
Could you tell the court
what you found?

274
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,480
We made a number of finds.

275
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,680
There were fibres
matching Stephen's polo shirt

276
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,600
found on Gary Dobson's jacket,

277
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,840
and fibres matching
Stephen Lawrence's green trousers

278
00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,600
and red polo shirt were found
on David Norris' sweatshirt.

279
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,880
Fibres that matched the cuff
and wristband of Stephen's jacket

280
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,440
found on Gary Dobson's cardigan.

281
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:49,400
The two hairs found on David Norris'
trousers were a 1,000-to-1

282
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,400
mitochondrial DNA match
to Stephen Lawrence.

283
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,200
A blood stain matching Stephen's

284
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,880
was found on the collar
of Gary Dobson's jacket.

285
00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,920
The defence have repeatedly
raised concerns

286
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,560
regarding cross-contamination.

287
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,000
In your view, is it possible

288
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,920
that the blood staining
to Mr Dobson's jacket

289
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,320
could have occurred later, at
Eltham Police Station, for example?

290
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,080
The nature of the staining,
the fact that the blood

291
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,240
has been absorbed into the fibres
of the jacket,

292
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,240
indicates that the blood
was still liquid

293
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,160
when it made contact
with the jacket.

294
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,200
Er, you said earlier that
the blood... Where are we now?

295
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,960
.."must have been wet" when
it was transferred to the jacket.

296
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,080
Is it possible that blood fragments
were moistened

297
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,560
during the course of the tests

298
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,720
you and your team carried out
on the jacket?

299
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,360
Well,
this was a hypothesis we explored.

300
00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:44,840
In the event, we discovered that
exposing the fragments to moisture

301
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,720
caused them to become gel-like,
but not liquid.

302
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,960
This did not produce
a comparable stain.

303
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,000
It couldn't soak
into the weave of the fabric.

304
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,840
Isn't it true
that different blood samples

305
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,680
taken from the same individual
can have different compositions,

306
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,520
different characteristics?
Well, yes, there are a number...

307
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,880
Simple yes or no will suffice.

308
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,280
And the rigorous tests
you carried out,

309
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,520
exposing blood samples to moisture,

310
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:13,240
they have not actually been carried
out with the specific blood sample

311
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,440
on the collar of the jacket.
Well, no, that wouldn't be possible.

312
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,480
But that does mean, does it not,

313
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,520
that we cannot completely exclude
the possibility

314
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,240
that the stain was produced
by your own testing?

315
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,160
In terms of likelihood,
the probability...

316
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,160
It wouldn't be right to exclude it,
would it?

317
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,120
We haven't excluded it.

318
00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:40,400
However, it is
a statistical impossibility.

319
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,320
The probability is so low as to bear
no mention in any reasonable,

320
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,920
rational argument, which leaves us
with the more viable conclusion...

321
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,120
Thank you, Mr Jarman.
..that the...  Thank you.

322
00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:53,240
..that the wearer of the jacket
was involved in the attack

323
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,120
on Stephen Lawrence.

324
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,120
Is this right?
The defence are trying to stop us

325
00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:11,280
from showing surveillance footage
of Dobson and Norris?

326
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,480
Yeah, they claim that
character evidence isn't relevant

327
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,200
and could prejudice the jury.

328
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,720
But this is
a racially motivated murder.

329
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,960
Whether those two are racist
or not is very relevant.

330
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,040
That's exactly
what Mr Ellison is arguing.

331
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,000
Let's hope the judge sees sense.

332
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,040
But for now, all we can do is wait.

333
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,720
On the bright side, Mr Jarman didn't
do too badly yesterday, did he?

334
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,360
Not what the papers are saying.

335
00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:38,080
I told her not to look at them.

336
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,040
I wanted to see
what the jury are reading.

337
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,480
The jury aren't allowed
to read the papers.  Oh, please.

338
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,320
"Stephen Lawrence trial.
Forensics do not fit."

339
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,520
Well, th-that's not right!

340
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,040
The defence haven't proven
any contamination.

341
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,320
I mean, where are they
getting this stuff?

342
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,840
Excuse me. Excuse me.
Are you in court 15?

343
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,520
Er, no, I'm 16, the Lawrence case.
Your case.

344
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,680
Are you sure?

345
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,560
Because from
what you've been writing,

346
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,880
I'd swear you were watching
a different trial.

347
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,120
I mean, anyone reading it

348
00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:20,200
would think the prosecution
was about to collapse.

349
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,080
Where are you
getting your information from?

350
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,840
To be honest, we're getting
most of it from your press office.

351
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,640
They seem, er, pessimistic.

352
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,600
The Met are feeding you this?

353
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,760
What are you doing?

354
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,200
Think I know where all the negative
coverage is coming from.

355
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,720
Unbelievable.
That's how the brass work.

356
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,360
They wanna lower expectations
in case it doesn't go our way.

357
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:52,600
Or maybe
they don't want a conviction.

358
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,840
We're getting called back in.

359
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,280
The judge said yes to the tapes.
Oh, that is a result!

360
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,160
And now,
we get to cross-examine them.

361
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,320
How come?

362
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,600
Well, the defence
aren't gonna want that horror show

363
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,000
to be the only impression
the jury get of their clients,

364
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,040
so they'll have to put 'em
on the stand.

365
00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:30,880
'He got my arm,
twisted it behind my back,

366
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,160
'started mucking about.

367
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,200
'And I had a Stanley knife
in my pocket,

368
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,760
'so I pulled it out,
I bit the thing off, and I said,

369
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,920
' "That'll do there, Mick, before
I end up fucking cutting you."

370
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,720
'All fucking day, he was
getting on my nerves, you know?

371
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,840
'I said, "You tap me once more,
you silly cunt,

372
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,800
' "I'm gonna just
fucking slice this down you." '

373
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,320
'If I was gonna kill
myself, do you know what I'd do?

374
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,440
'I'd go and kill every Black cunt,
every Paki, every copper,

375
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,920
'every mug that I know.
I'm telling you, right?'

376
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,000
'I'd go down Catford,
places like that, I'm telling you,

377
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,080
'with two sub-machine guns.

378
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,680
'I'd take one of them,
skin the Black cunt alive, mate.

379
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,240
'Torture him, set him alight.

380
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,320
'I'd blow the two legs and arms off
and say, "Go on, swim now." '

381
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,920
The court has just watched footage

382
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,120
filmed 17 years ago,
when you were a young man.

383
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:23,600
We heard you frequently use
racial slurs.

384
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,480
How do you feel about that language?

385
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,360
Well... I think, with that, like,

386
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:31,560
I've always listened
to hip-hop over the years,

387
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,240
so I used to use the N-word.

388
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,080
We heard you threaten violence
against a Black colleague.

389
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,400
Were you a violent man at that time?
No, not at all.

390
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,640
All it was
was a bit of friendly banter.

391
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,880
Workplace banter kind of thing.
A bit of bravado.

392
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,640
Can you account for your whereabouts
on the evening of April 22nd, 1993?

393
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,880
I was at home. I stayed in.

394
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,600
I had some curry,
played on the computer,

395
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,160
and then later, about half 11,
I went to Neil and Jamie's house.

396
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,320
Why did you visit
the Acourt brothers' house?

397
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,960
Just visiting my mates.

398
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,560
I wanted to borrow
a Bob Marley CD off 'em.

399
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,080
So, to confirm, at 10:40pm, the time
of the attack on Stephen Lawrence,

400
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,120
you were at home?
Yeah.

401
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:16,800
Gary, did you have anything
to do with the events

402
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,800
that led to the death
of Stephen Lawrence?

403
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,520
No, I didn't.

404
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,240
Mr Dobson,
how can you account for a jacket

405
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,320
stained with Stephen Lawrence's
blood being found in your wardrobe?

406
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,960
I never even wore that jacket.

407
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,640
Never?  Well, I wore it to school
once or twice,

408
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,680
and I had the complete mick taken
out of me, so I never wore it.

409
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,440
The problem is, the jacket
appeared to be heavily worn.

410
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,360
It had cigarette burns,
a broken zipper.

411
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:46,080
Yeah, it was worn.
It got worn, but not by me.

412
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,880
Who had been wearing it, Mr Dobson?

413
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,600
My mum, my auntie, my brother.
Your auntie?

414
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,680
Yeah.

415
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:58,560
I suggest to you that you went out
with your friends that night.

416
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,440
You were coming home across Well
Hall Road at about ten thirty,

417
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,240
and you saw two Black boys
on your manor.

418
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,280
You saw their very presence
as a provocation.  No.

419
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,040
And you attacked them, didn't you?
Definitely not. Absolutely not.

420
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,840
Did you have anything to do
with the death of Stephen Lawrence?

421
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,200
No. Certainly not, no, sir.

422
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:28,560
The jeans seized by police
from your home on May 7th, 1993...

423
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,880
..did they belong to you?
No, sir.

424
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,800
They were my brother's jeans.
They'd have been too loose for me.

425
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,680
How, Mr Norris, can you be so sure

426
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,920
you were not in Eltham
the night of the murder?

427
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,080
Cos I'm innocent.

428
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,520
You insist you were nowhere near
the scene of this murder,

429
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,120
and yet, as we have seen, fibres
matching Stephen Lawrence's clothing

430
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,880
and hairs matching
Stephen Lawrence's DNA

431
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,640
were found on your clothing.

432
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,600
Is there any innocent explanation

433
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,440
for how those hairs and fibres
could have got on your clothing?

434
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,240
Nothing at all.

435
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,160
A little earlier,
we heard a recording of you

436
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,200
saying you would like to kill
Black people.

437
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,840
You have a murderous hatred
of Black people,

438
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,720
don't you, Mr Norris?
No. No, not at all, sir.

439
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,640
The truth is, you and your mates
attacked that young Black boy

440
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,520
that night, didn't you?
No, absolutely not, sir.

441
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,800
It was a school night.

442
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,680
There's no way David
would have been out at that time.

443
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,120
How can you be sure?

444
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:39,080
I had a routine,
and I was very strict with it.

445
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,040
They all knew they had to be back.

446
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,120
Mrs Norris, isn't it true
that this is the first time

447
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,520
there has been a breath
of this alibi?

448
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,640
It is, is it not,
a recent invention?

449
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,120
No, that's not right.

450
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,480
Why has it only just occurred to you
that your son

451
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,080
was at home at the time
of the murder?

452
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,320
I didn't realise at the time
that it was a school night.

453
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,360
Of course, David wasn't actually
going to school, was he?

454
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,240
At 16, he'd finished school.

455
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,920
Why would a school night
have any relevance to him?

456
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,080
He had to stick to my rules,
the same as the rest of my kids.

457
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,280
My son would have been at home.

458
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,000
I went into the kitchen at 10:30pm,

459
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,000
and that's when Gary came in
and made toast.

460
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,240
He had a pair of shorts on,
so I could see he hadn't been out.

461
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,440
Mrs Dobson, in your 1993 statement,

462
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:39,680
you say that Gary came down
to the kitchen at 10:45pm.

463
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,320
Why has this changed?

464
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,360
Well, 10:30,
give or take a few minutes.

465
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,520
Stephen Lawrence was killed
shortly after 10:30pm,

466
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,120
a few minutes away from your home.

467
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:59,280
If we give Gary ten minutes, if we
have him in the kitchen at 10:45pm,

468
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,200
the time you gave
in your original statement,

469
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,640
then he no longer has an alibi.

470
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,520
No, he didn't do it.
He wasn't there.

471
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,520
Gary was in all evening.

472
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,400
Those two women.
If it was your son...

473
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,120
..wouldn't you encourage them
to take responsibility?

474
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,520
I mean, if you don't
give your children a conscience,

475
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,120
then what have you given them?

476
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,960
I think you've got
an optimistic view of human nature.

477
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,600
I meet a lot of young people
in my work in schools.

478
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,080
Some of them tough, you know.

479
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,600
Have to fend for themselves.
Mothers working shifts.

480
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,120
But most of these kids, when you
take the time to get to know them...

481
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,800
..they ain't bad.

482
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,480
You can see that
they've been given some goodness.

483
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,000
My grandmother raised me.

484
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,920
She was tough, but she was kind.

485
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:07,440
She drummed it into me -
be kind to everyone.

486
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,200
She didn't have much, but...

487
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,640
..she gave me that.

488
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,000
And I gave it to my children.

489
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,640
There are a few
key questions you must answer

490
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,760
before reaching a verdict.

491
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,520
You must decide
if the blood and fibres

492
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,960
found on the accused clothing
came from Stephen Lawrence.

493
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,160
If you're satisfied on this point,
you must then consider

494
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,840
whether you can exclude
the possibility of contamination.

495
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,800
The character of the defendants
is irrelevant,

496
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,520
unless you are convinced
by the physical evidence

497
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,800
putting them at the scene
of Stephen Lawrence's murder.

498
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,840
We shall reconvene on January 3rd

499
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,080
for the jury
to consider their verdict.

500
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,240
And I wish you all, in advance,
a happy New Year.

501
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,680
Got you some birch
for the fireplace.

502
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,640
Yeah, it, er...
burns hotter than pine.

503
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,280
Smells nicer, too.

504
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,560
You don't need to chop down a tree
just to pop over for a cup of tea,

505
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,240
you know, Clive.

506
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:32,880
Thank you.

507
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,360
Any plans for New Year?
Oh, I'm too old for all that.

508
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,880
I'm on baby-sitting duty.

509
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,320
You're worried, aren't you?

510
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,960
It's the waiting.

511
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,320
This festive break
is not good for my nerves.

512
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,240
Well, I've had plenty of practice
with waiting.

513
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,480
Normally, when the jury retires,
that's it.

514
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,760
Whatever will be will be.

515
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,040
But, er... this case...

516
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,760
..your family, er, needs justice.

517
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,680
Clive, I've sacrificed
18 years of my life

518
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,160
fighting for justice for Stephen,

519
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,720
but even if we win this case,
it won't be job done,

520
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,440
not for me.

521
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,760
To get this close...

522
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:43,080
You did all you could, but justice
is bigger than this case.

523
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,040
# For auld lang syne, my dear

524
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,600
# For auld lang syne

525
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,880
# I'll take a cup of kindness yet

526
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,880
# For auld lang syne

527
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,800
# For old lang syne, my Joe

528
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,840
# For auld lang syne

529
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,400
# I'll take a cup of kindness yet

530
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,040
# For old lang syne. #

531
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,880
The judge said
a reinvestigation of the case

532
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,680
had led to new scientific evidence.

533
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,120
The two accused men questioned
the handling of that evidence.

534
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,800
'Would all parties
in the case of Dobson and Norris

535
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,720
'please report to court 16?'

536
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,480
'Would all parties in the case
of Dobson and Norris

537
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,440
'please go to court 16?'

538
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,440
Time to be put out of our misery.

539
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,000
Will the defendants please stand?

540
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,440
Would the foreman of the jury
please stand?

541
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,360
Have you reached a verdict on both
cases on which you are all agreed?

542
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,800
We have.

543
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,360
The verdicts in this case will
be received in complete silence.

544
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,920
Do you find the defendant
David Norris guilty

545
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,840
or not guilty
on this indictment of murder?

546
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,080
Guilty.

547
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,720
Do you find the defendant
Gary Dobson guilty

548
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:17,600
or not guilty on this indictment
of murder?

549
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:21,520
Guilty.

550
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,040
He's innocent!
He did not kill that man!

551
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,680
You've condemned an innocent man
here today.

552
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:27,840
Hope you can live with that.

553
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,080
Is DCI Driscoll in court?

554
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,520
Yes, sir, My Lord.

555
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,320
You've been leading
this investigation since 2006.

556
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,480
Yes, My Lord.

557
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,800
This is a case that has shamed
and humbled the Metropolitan Police.

558
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,280
However, you and your officers
have worked incredibly hard,

559
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,440
and you deserve to be commended.

560
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,680
A measure of justice
has finally been achieved.

561
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,440
On the evidence before the court,

562
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,680
there are at least
three other killers at large.

563
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,680
I expect you will continue your
efforts to bring them to justice.

564
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,240
Yes, My Lord. Thank you, My Lord.

565
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:45,360
Congratulations, Mrs Lawrence,
Mr Lawrence.

566
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,040
We got there in the end, eh?

567
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,960
Mr Lawrence.
Yeah?

568
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,320
Congratulations.

569
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,920
Thank you, Clive.

570
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,080
- Do you have a statement?
- Why did this take so long?

571
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,240
What's your reaction
to the verdict?

572
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:12,760
What about the other suspects?

573
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:18,040
As senior investigating officer,
I welcome today's verdicts.

574
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,040
This is a case
of extraordinary importance,

575
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,200
not just to
the Metropolitan Police...

576
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,160
And all this time,
I thought you were SIO.

577
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,880
..but to society at large.
Only if we'd lost.

578
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,280
We know that
there were more than two attackers

579
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,040
involved in this murder.

580
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:40,080
I would encourage any member
of the public who has information

581
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,640
that could support our ongoing
investigation to come forward.

582
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,840
Today is not
a cause for celebration.

583
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,280
How can I celebrate
when my son lies buried?

584
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,000
Now that we have
some sort of justice,

585
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,960
I want people to think of Stephen

586
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,840
not only as a Black teenager
murdered in a racist attack.

587
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:24,240
I want people to remember him
as a bright, beautiful young man

588
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:27,680
that any mother
would have been proud of.

589
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,640
I miss him with a passion.

590
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,040
My greatest hope...

591
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,920
..is that these people now realise

592
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,920
that they've been found out...

593
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,840
..and they're gonna lie down
in their bed

594
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,480
and think that
they are not the only ones

595
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,920
responsible for the death of my son.

596
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,680
And they're gonna give up
the rest of the people

597
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,360
so that I can come out here again
in a year's time

598
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,400
and talk to you people again.

599
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,600
Mr Lawrence, do you...?
Thank you.

600
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,200
Do you have a message
for the other suspects?

601
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,760
You know, for so many years,

602
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,640
I resented those men
for not repenting.

603
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,640
But seeing them in the court...
HE SCOFFS

604
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,960
..I pitied them,
to be honest with you.

605
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,320
You must have felt
as though a great weight was lifted.

606
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,920
I'm not ready to forgive. Not yet.

607
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,200
But, for the first time...

608
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,520
..it feels possible.

609
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,640
I can imagine leaving them behind.

610
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,680
The Home Secretary,
Theresa May,

611
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,760
has ordered a review
into allegations

612
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,320
that police corruption hampered
the original failed investigation

613
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,320
into the murder
of Stephen Lawrence.

614
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,360
Mark Ellison QC, the barrister
who secured convictions

615
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,640
against two of Stephen's murderers
earlier this year,

616
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:13,720
will head the review.

617
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,040
Stephen's mother, Doreen Lawrence,

618
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,640
is meeting with the Home Secretary
to clarify the terms of reference.

619
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,600
Mr Ellison.
How lovely to see you again.

620
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,240
Do you know how many man hours I've
spent trying to get hold of these?

621
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:35,040
That's funny, it took me about
15 minutes to dig 'em out.

622
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,960
Thank you.

623
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,280
Anything else I can do,
just let me know.

624
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,360
We're all on the same side,
after all.

625
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,560
Like the judge said, we've got
three killers still at large.

626
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:10,040
The way I see it, your case is
only as good as your best witness,

627
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:16,560
and my hope is that the convictions
will sway a few key people

628
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,320
who were previously, er, reluctant.

629
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,840
As you can see, the following people
came forward in '93,

630
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,360
but were never followed up on.

631
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,880
We're very hopeful
of being able to track them down.

632
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,920
Before we get into the detail,

633
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,520
I think we should discuss
the oversight of the case

634
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,120
and management of the investigation
going forward.

635
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,840
Dropping off those tickets.
Fulham-Arsenal.

636
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,760
One for you, one for Stuart.
Ah, looking forward to it.

637
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,320
Stuart said
he'll try and go easy on you.

638
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,600
What is it?

639
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,000
They're letting me go.

640
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,600
They're sacking you?

641
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,760
Compulsory retirement.
Huh!

642
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,360
There'll be a handover.

643
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,680
They asked me
to hand over my rapport with you,

644
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,920
as a matter of fact.

645
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,920
They can't do that.
I'll talk to the Home Secretary.

646
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,160
I'm two years over my 30.

647
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,200
It's, er...
It's at their discretion.

648
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,160
They could keep me
on if they wanted to, but, er, well,

649
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,040
they don't want to.

650
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,920
This is how they reward you
for getting convictions?

651
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,320
They should be giving you medals.

652
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,120
It's all right, Doreen.

653
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,720
It's like you said - justice is
bigger than a couple of convictions.

654
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:40,760
I mean, they can stop me,
but no-one's ever gonna stop you.

655
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,920
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