1 00:00:05,482 --> 00:00:07,717 [Remy Ma] How far would you go to come up 2 00:00:07,784 --> 00:00:10,353 within a system built to hold you down? 3 00:00:13,857 --> 00:00:16,860 These are the true stories of real people 4 00:00:16,860 --> 00:00:18,328 who had good intentions 5 00:00:18,328 --> 00:00:20,463 but got caught up by bad decisions. 6 00:00:24,434 --> 00:00:25,802 It's a wild ride 7 00:00:25,969 --> 00:00:29,105 from all the way up to all the way down 8 00:00:29,205 --> 00:00:30,774 and back around again. 9 00:00:31,107 --> 00:00:31,841 I'm Remy Ma, 10 00:00:32,442 --> 00:00:34,411 and I'm proof that even a wrong turn 11 00:00:34,511 --> 00:00:36,313 can still lead to redemption. 12 00:00:36,613 --> 00:00:39,683 This is "My True Crime Story." 13 00:00:41,407 --> 00:00:44,166 {\an7}I didn‘t have any fear. 14 00:00:44,166 --> 00:00:48,100 {\an7}Once you give me that power, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hit‘s over. 15 00:00:48,308 --> 00:00:49,275 {\an7}I‘m going into the stores, 16 00:00:49,275 --> 00:00:52,704 {\an7}I‘m swiping millions of dollars of electronics 17 00:00:52,704 --> 00:00:55,506 {\an7}\h\h\h\hand I had access to endless credit cards. 18 00:00:55,506 --> 00:00:57,473 {\an7}It was like, limitless. 19 00:01:00,100 --> 00:01:02,341 {\an7}[Remy] This is a cautionary tal about how a young girl 20 00:01:02,341 --> 00:01:04,374 {\an7}from Brooklyn, New York, \h\h\h\hwho started out 21 00:01:04,374 --> 00:01:07,166 {\an7}just trying to take care \h\h\h\hof her parents, 22 00:01:07,166 --> 00:01:12,638 {\an7}\hLike my mom is the best person in the world to me. 23 00:01:12,836 --> 00:01:15,836 {\an7}[Remy] But became the swipe \h\h\h\h\hqueen of New York. 24 00:01:15,836 --> 00:01:18,704 {\an7}She‘s like the credit \h\hcard fraud queen, 25 00:01:18,704 --> 00:01:20,671 {\an7}Shawana King. 26 00:01:20,671 --> 00:01:24,407 {\an7}\h\h\h\hI had no idea that she was so young. 27 00:01:28,374 --> 00:01:31,737 {\an7}\hI always made sure I looked like money, 28 00:01:31,737 --> 00:01:33,067 {\an7}smelled like money. 29 00:01:33,067 --> 00:01:37,308 {\an7}\h\h\hWhen you put yourself in a position to get money, 30 00:01:37,308 --> 00:01:38,308 {\an7}you can get it. 31 00:01:38,308 --> 00:01:40,704 {\an7}[Remy] This was a full-blown \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\henterprise 32 00:01:40,704 --> 00:01:44,440 {\an7}\h\hand Shawana King was on the come up. 33 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,572 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIn my head, I knew I was that [bleep]. 34 00:01:48,770 --> 00:01:49,704 {\an7}I knew I was the bomb. 35 00:01:49,704 --> 00:01:51,440 {\an7}[Remy] But in the world \h\h\h\h\h\h\hof fraud, 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,605 {\an7}there‘s no such thing \has without a trace. 37 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,902 {\an7}[Shawana] Security comes up to \h\h\h\h\hme and they‘re like, 38 00:02:00,902 --> 00:02:02,133 {\an7}"can you come to the back?" 39 00:02:02,133 --> 00:02:03,869 {\an7}\h\hI‘m like, "yes, is there a problem?" 40 00:02:03,869 --> 00:02:07,374 {\an7}And they like, "yeah, \hthere is a problem." 41 00:02:09,506 --> 00:02:11,539 {\an7}[Remy] Is the swipe queen \h\h\h\h\h\h\hof New York 42 00:02:11,539 --> 00:02:12,869 {\an7}in her multimillion-dollar scam 43 00:02:12,869 --> 00:02:16,836 {\an7}really about to go down \h\hin flames like this? 44 00:02:16,836 --> 00:02:18,374 {\an7}Well, you have more proof? 45 00:02:18,374 --> 00:02:19,308 {\an7}Oh, of course I have-- 46 00:02:19,308 --> 00:02:20,803 {\an7}[Remy] This is definitely not 47 00:02:20,803 --> 00:02:24,539 {\an7}how Shawana saw this \h\hall going down. 48 00:02:28,407 --> 00:02:29,770 {\an7}Today, Brooklyn may be known as 49 00:02:29,770 --> 00:02:31,407 {\an7}the hipster capital \h\h\hof the world, 50 00:02:31,407 --> 00:02:34,869 {\an7}\h\hbut back in the 90s when Shawana King was growing up, 51 00:02:34,869 --> 00:02:38,803 {\an7}Crooklyn was on the map \h\h\hfor other reasons. 52 00:02:38,803 --> 00:02:43,506 {\an7}At the time, Brooklyn‘s Finest told the stories to the world 53 00:02:43,506 --> 00:02:44,539 {\an7}through joints and rhymes, 54 00:02:44,539 --> 00:02:46,671 {\an7}and if you don‘t know, \h\h\h\hnow you know. 55 00:02:46,671 --> 00:02:50,836 {\an7}\hSeventy-seven neighborhoods, two million different stories. 56 00:02:50,836 --> 00:02:53,737 {\an7}\hThe one thing all BK natives have in common 57 00:02:53,737 --> 00:02:57,803 {\an7}is crazy resilience \h\hand O.D. pride. 58 00:02:58,275 --> 00:03:02,638 {\an7}Shawana King and her family \h\h\h\h\hwere no different. 59 00:03:05,242 --> 00:03:06,034 {\an7}[Shawana] So growing up, 60 00:03:06,034 --> 00:03:08,275 {\an7}\h\hI was with my mom from Monday to Friday 61 00:03:08,275 --> 00:03:11,275 {\an7}‘cause I went to school \hwhere my mother lived 62 00:03:11,275 --> 00:03:14,737 {\an7}and I lived with my dad \h\h\h\hon the weekends. 63 00:03:14,935 --> 00:03:16,869 {\an7}Growing up, my mom was a \h\h\h\h\hworking woman. 64 00:03:16,869 --> 00:03:19,572 {\an7}You know, she didn‘t have \h\h\h\h\h\h\hthe best job 65 00:03:19,572 --> 00:03:21,770 {\an7}and things got difficult \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor her. 66 00:03:21,770 --> 00:03:24,803 {\an7}She never showed it \h\hbut I sensed it. 67 00:03:24,803 --> 00:03:30,440 {\an7}You know, she was always \h\h\h\h\h\h\hvery down. 68 00:03:31,869 --> 00:03:36,242 {\an7}But my mom and my dad, \hthey were opposites. 69 00:03:36,605 --> 00:03:39,067 {\an7}At my dad‘s house 70 00:03:39,067 --> 00:03:41,968 {\an7}it was fun. [chuckles] 71 00:03:41,968 --> 00:03:45,605 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hEveryone was loud so it‘s just more excitement. 72 00:03:45,605 --> 00:03:47,605 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hYou could do whatever you want to do. 73 00:03:47,605 --> 00:03:49,275 {\an7}I had my sister there. 74 00:03:49,275 --> 00:03:51,869 {\an7}[Yakia] Shawana has a different mom from me 75 00:03:51,869 --> 00:03:55,034 {\an7}and her mother and my father \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhad like this 76 00:03:55,034 --> 00:03:57,275 {\an7}little jealousy streak \h\h\hwith each other 77 00:03:57,275 --> 00:03:59,605 {\an7}‘cause my father used \h\hto always spoil us 78 00:03:59,605 --> 00:04:02,308 {\an7}[Remy] And Shawana had \h\h\hher dad, Leslie, 79 00:04:02,308 --> 00:04:04,539 {\an7}wrapped around her finger. 80 00:04:04,539 --> 00:04:06,737 {\an7}She was my first born, is like, 81 00:04:06,737 --> 00:04:08,803 {\an7}we just had a special bond. 82 00:04:08,803 --> 00:04:11,671 {\an7}She was like a perfect baby. 83 00:04:11,671 --> 00:04:15,001 {\an7}Everything about her \h\h\hwas just wow. 84 00:04:15,001 --> 00:04:18,704 {\an7}And me being like 16, \h\h17 when I had her, 85 00:04:18,704 --> 00:04:20,374 {\an7}we just grew up with each other. 86 00:04:20,374 --> 00:04:23,034 {\an7}I tried to give her whatever she wanted 87 00:04:23,034 --> 00:04:24,341 {\an7}[Remy] And like most kids, 88 00:04:24,341 --> 00:04:26,935 {\an7}\h\h\hShawana was all up in grown folks business. 89 00:04:26,935 --> 00:04:31,001 {\an7}I watched everything like a hawk when it came to my dad. 90 00:04:31,001 --> 00:04:35,902 {\an7}[Remy] She was especially \hwatching his brown coat. 91 00:04:36,770 --> 00:04:38,374 {\an7}[Leslie] Before I even knew \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat she 92 00:04:38,374 --> 00:04:41,638 {\an7}knew that I was telling drugs, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hshe knew. 93 00:04:41,968 --> 00:04:42,869 {\an7}Basically, 94 00:04:42,869 --> 00:04:45,341 {\an7}that‘s the only way \h\hof making money 95 00:04:45,341 --> 00:04:47,638 {\an7}to take care of your family. 96 00:04:47,836 --> 00:04:50,968 {\an7}[Remy] So one day, when Shawana saw her father in the coat 97 00:04:50,968 --> 00:04:54,836 {\an7}\h\h\h\hand the police officer lurking just around the corner, 98 00:04:54,836 --> 00:04:55,737 {\an7}she made a connection. 99 00:04:55,737 --> 00:05:00,902 {\an7}\h\h\hI‘m seeing the police, so I want to protect my dad. 100 00:05:00,902 --> 00:05:02,638 {\an7}\h\h\hSo I ran over and I‘m hugging him 101 00:05:02,638 --> 00:05:04,836 {\an7}and I‘m like, "Daddy, \h\h\h\hgive me candy. 102 00:05:04,836 --> 00:05:06,473 {\an7}\h\h\hYou have candy. I know you have candy 103 00:05:06,473 --> 00:05:08,803 {\an7}in your pocket daddy, \h\h\h\hgive me candy. 104 00:05:08,803 --> 00:05:09,836 {\an7}So I go into the pocket 105 00:05:09,836 --> 00:05:15,407 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hand I took the drugs and I put the drugs in my pocket 106 00:05:15,407 --> 00:05:16,605 {\an7}and I just ran back upstairs. 107 00:05:16,605 --> 00:05:21,869 {\an7}\h[Remy] It‘s crazy what kids figure out at such a young age. 108 00:05:24,836 --> 00:05:27,770 {\an7}After they left the police and everything, I‘m like, 109 00:05:27,770 --> 00:05:28,671 {\an7}"where the stuff at?" 110 00:05:28,671 --> 00:05:32,704 {\an7}\hShe like, "oh, daddy, I took it out... Here." 111 00:05:32,704 --> 00:05:34,100 {\an7}"I didn‘t want you to get arrested." 112 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:35,100 {\an7}I‘m like, wow. 113 00:05:35,100 --> 00:05:36,539 {\an7}I could‘ve done a lot of time 114 00:05:36,539 --> 00:05:38,440 {\an7}\hif they would‘ve caught me with it. 115 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:39,968 {\an7}You know, so she saved me. 116 00:05:39,968 --> 00:05:45,100 {\an7}\h[Remy] At seven years old, Shawana the savior was born. 117 00:05:50,638 --> 00:05:53,671 {\an7}And by the time Shawana \h\h\hhit seventh grade, 118 00:05:53,671 --> 00:05:55,803 {\an7}\h\h\h\hshe realized there was some perks 119 00:05:55,803 --> 00:05:58,770 {\an7}to her dad‘s hustlin‘ status . 120 00:05:58,770 --> 00:06:03,440 {\an7}So my dad would give me \h\h500 dollars a week. 121 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,704 {\an7}[Remy] Wait, what? 122 00:06:06,638 --> 00:06:10,034 {\an7}When you‘re a kid and \hyou don‘t experience 123 00:06:10,034 --> 00:06:11,001 {\an7}anything else. 124 00:06:11,001 --> 00:06:12,671 {\an7}That was normal to me. 125 00:06:12,671 --> 00:06:13,572 {\an7}Everyone knew me. 126 00:06:13,572 --> 00:06:18,605 {\an7}\h\h\h"Oh, Shawana, she‘s fly. She has all the new sneakers." 127 00:06:18,605 --> 00:06:21,737 {\an7}I‘d be buying everyone lunch. You know, if you‘re my friend. 128 00:06:21,737 --> 00:06:24,506 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHere you go. I get more money next week. 129 00:06:24,506 --> 00:06:28,067 {\an7}Whatever it was to my friends \h\h\h\h\hto make them happy, 130 00:06:28,067 --> 00:06:29,001 {\an7}I would give it to them. 131 00:06:29,001 --> 00:06:33,133 {\an7}And I‘m like, the queen \h\hwhen I go to school. 132 00:06:33,133 --> 00:06:34,638 {\an7}And when my dad gave me money, 133 00:06:34,638 --> 00:06:36,638 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hI would save it and I‘d go to my mom, like, 134 00:06:36,638 --> 00:06:38,473 {\an7}"mom, I wanna give it \h\hto you as a gift." 135 00:06:38,473 --> 00:06:41,539 {\an7}And I just wanted \hto help my mom. 136 00:06:42,704 --> 00:06:45,671 {\an7}I love that feeling, \h\h\h\h\hhonestly. 137 00:06:45,869 --> 00:06:49,638 {\an7}\h\h[Remy] But everything came to a screeching halt real quick 138 00:06:49,638 --> 00:06:52,737 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hwhen her dad left the game for good. 139 00:06:52,737 --> 00:06:54,605 {\an7}[Leslie] My friend got life \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hplus 20. 140 00:06:54,605 --> 00:06:58,100 {\an7}That made me kind of change \h\hmy life ‘cause I‘m like, 141 00:06:58,100 --> 00:07:00,001 {\an7}I don‘t wanna do 20 or 30 years. 142 00:07:00,001 --> 00:07:03,704 {\an7}\hFive years would‘ve killed me just to be away from my family. 143 00:07:03,704 --> 00:07:06,242 {\an7}And so I just never \hsold drugs again. 144 00:07:06,242 --> 00:07:09,209 {\an7}‘Cause I was like, it‘s over. 145 00:07:10,770 --> 00:07:12,968 {\an7}So the money got lower. 146 00:07:12,968 --> 00:07:17,100 {\an7}That was an extremely hard pill to swallow. 147 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:20,473 {\an7}[Remy] And Shawana‘s friend, \h\h\hChyna, peeped it all. 148 00:07:20,473 --> 00:07:24,803 {\an7}To take away all those items. \hand like the luxury things, 149 00:07:24,803 --> 00:07:26,605 {\an7}I think that scared her so much 150 00:07:26,605 --> 00:07:29,605 {\an7}because she already \h\h\hhad an image. 151 00:07:30,605 --> 00:07:31,473 {\an7}And where we come from, 152 00:07:31,473 --> 00:07:33,473 {\an7}\h\heven though a majority of people are struggling, 153 00:07:33,473 --> 00:07:35,166 {\an7}there‘s a lot of people \h\h\h\h\h\hthat‘s not. 154 00:07:35,166 --> 00:07:38,572 {\an7}\h\hAnd you don‘t wanna be the one that‘s struggling, 155 00:07:38,572 --> 00:07:39,374 {\an7}you get made fun of, 156 00:07:39,374 --> 00:07:42,034 {\an7}You get treated like \hyou ain‘t nobody. 157 00:07:42,034 --> 00:07:44,100 {\an7}I think that changed her. 158 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:48,539 {\an7}[Remy] But that change was only the beginning of what‘s to come 159 00:07:48,539 --> 00:07:51,704 {\an7}[Shawana] I started to catch \h\h\h\hfeelings for Dennis. 160 00:07:51,704 --> 00:07:54,275 {\an7}\h\h\hHe was a senior and I was a freshman. 161 00:07:54,275 --> 00:07:56,034 {\an7}[Chyna] Dennis was handsome. 162 00:07:56,034 --> 00:07:57,935 {\an7}He was flashy. 163 00:07:57,935 --> 00:07:58,605 {\an7}He was like "that guy" \h\h\h\h\hin our hood. 164 00:07:58,605 --> 00:08:00,902 {\an7}He was the man and her father \h\h\h\h\h\hwas like, the man. 165 00:08:00,902 --> 00:08:04,100 {\an7}\h\h\hSo I think she kind of saw similarities in the two. 166 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:07,242 {\an7}[Remy] That sounds like trouble 167 00:08:10,968 --> 00:08:13,836 {\an7}[Chyna] They were like \h\h\h\h\hinseparable. 168 00:08:14,737 --> 00:08:17,001 {\an7}She was madly in love. 169 00:08:17,001 --> 00:08:20,968 {\an7}[Remy] And Dennis had money, \h\hbut she knew Den‘s money 170 00:08:20,968 --> 00:08:22,275 {\an7}wasn‘t drug money, 171 00:08:22,275 --> 00:08:24,001 {\an7}so where did it come from? 172 00:08:24,001 --> 00:08:28,968 {\an7}I‘m wondering what he does. \h\hHe has four cell phones. 173 00:08:29,166 --> 00:08:32,770 {\an7}So I started just observing him and watching everything he did. 174 00:08:32,770 --> 00:08:36,308 {\an7}\hAnd I noticed that he did everything over the computer 175 00:08:36,308 --> 00:08:39,133 {\an7}and he always was getting \h\h\h\h\hpackages coming. 176 00:08:39,133 --> 00:08:42,737 {\an7}\h\h\h[Remy] Packages? What kind of packages? 177 00:08:42,737 --> 00:08:43,671 {\an7}And then I realized 178 00:08:43,671 --> 00:08:46,308 {\an7}he‘s doing something \hwith credit cards. 179 00:08:46,308 --> 00:08:49,341 {\an7}\hI said, "listen, I know how you making your money. 180 00:08:49,341 --> 00:08:51,902 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hYou‘re using stolen credit cards." 181 00:08:51,902 --> 00:08:54,836 {\an7}And he‘s like, "uh, not really." 182 00:08:54,836 --> 00:08:58,803 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h"What I‘m doing is buying accounts online 183 00:08:58,803 --> 00:09:02,770 {\an7}and I‘m using people‘s accounts to purchase stuff. 184 00:09:02,770 --> 00:09:05,638 {\an7}And they are sending it to me \h\h\hand I am reselling it." 185 00:09:05,638 --> 00:09:09,935 {\an7}[Remy] And that 17-year-old min started working overtime 186 00:09:09,935 --> 00:09:11,902 {\an7}to up his game. 187 00:09:12,242 --> 00:09:14,836 {\an7}A lightbulb went off in my head. 188 00:09:14,836 --> 00:09:19,704 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h"I have a plan. We can make a lot of money. 189 00:09:19,704 --> 00:09:23,133 {\an7}We can make millions of dollars like, seriously." 190 00:09:23,133 --> 00:09:26,803 {\an7}[Remy] The hustle blood \h\h\h\h\h\h\hruns deep, 191 00:09:26,803 --> 00:09:28,836 {\an7}but there‘s more to the story \h\h\h\h\hthan just the money. 192 00:09:28,836 --> 00:09:33,034 {\an7}[Shawana] Like, my mom is my guardian angel. 193 00:09:33,034 --> 00:09:35,341 {\an7}And I just wanted to help my mom because 194 00:09:35,341 --> 00:09:39,034 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hI knew she struggled even though she didn‘t show it. 195 00:09:39,034 --> 00:09:41,374 {\an7}[Remy] It was time \hto get started. 196 00:09:41,374 --> 00:09:44,308 {\an7}[Shawana] Dennis is like a \h\h\h\h\h\hcomputer geek. 197 00:09:44,308 --> 00:09:48,001 {\an7}He can go on the computer \h\hand find out anything. 198 00:09:48,001 --> 00:09:52,374 {\an7}So he goes on the dark web \h\hand we learned a lot. 199 00:09:52,374 --> 00:09:53,407 {\an7}[Remy] On the dark web 200 00:09:53,407 --> 00:09:57,242 {\an7}\h\h\hyou can find anything you‘re not supposed to have. 201 00:09:57,242 --> 00:10:00,242 {\an7}Drugs, guns, counterfeit money, 202 00:10:00,242 --> 00:10:01,374 {\an7}hacked streaming accounts. 203 00:10:01,374 --> 00:10:04,341 {\an7}But Shawana was looking \h\h\hfor credit cards. 204 00:10:04,341 --> 00:10:08,133 {\an7}\h\h\h\hAnd that‘s how we met this guy named Ray from China. 205 00:10:08,133 --> 00:10:13,869 {\an7}[Remy] Yo, this immediately \h\h\h\hsounds even shadier- 206 00:10:14,133 --> 00:10:15,133 {\an7}if that‘s possible. 207 00:10:15,133 --> 00:10:18,440 {\an7}[Shawana] So I do not know who Ray is, never met him, 208 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,308 {\an7}but he just gave us so much information. 209 00:10:23,308 --> 00:10:28,308 {\an7}The plan I worked out with Ray \hwas I‘ll send you the money, 210 00:10:28,308 --> 00:10:30,968 {\an7}you send me credit card tracks. 211 00:10:30,968 --> 00:10:34,737 {\an7}\h\h[Remy] A track is all your credit card information stored 212 00:10:34,737 --> 00:10:35,935 {\an7}on that magnetic strip. 213 00:10:35,935 --> 00:10:39,473 {\an7}\h[Shawana] So I started buying tracks from Ray. 214 00:10:39,473 --> 00:10:40,869 {\an7}And I‘m like, you know what? 215 00:10:40,869 --> 00:10:43,275 {\an7}This is actually a business. 216 00:10:43,473 --> 00:10:44,308 {\an7}I just felt confident. 217 00:10:44,308 --> 00:10:49,770 {\an7}Like, when you put yourself in a position to get money, 218 00:10:49,968 --> 00:10:51,737 {\an7}you can get it. 219 00:10:51,737 --> 00:10:53,671 {\an7}All you have to do is position \h\h\h\h\hyourself to get it. 220 00:10:53,671 --> 00:10:55,902 {\an7}My father positioned himself \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto get it. 221 00:10:55,902 --> 00:10:57,308 {\an7}Dennis positioned himself \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto get it. 222 00:10:57,308 --> 00:11:02,034 {\an7}Now I‘m about to position \h\h\hmyself to get money. 223 00:11:04,034 --> 00:11:05,001 {\an7}[Remy] And with that, 224 00:11:05,001 --> 00:11:08,067 {\an7}\h\h\hthe swipe queen of New York was born, 225 00:11:08,275 --> 00:11:09,209 {\an7}I didn‘t have any fear, 226 00:11:09,209 --> 00:11:12,275 {\an7}I know how to take control. \h\h\hIt was like limitless. 227 00:11:12,275 --> 00:11:15,374 {\an7}[Remy] But that intricate house of cards she was building- 228 00:11:15,374 --> 00:11:17,836 {\an7}\h[Shawana] I didn‘t know if he was gonna set us up, 229 00:11:17,836 --> 00:11:19,737 {\an7}\h\h\hget us robbed or call the police- 230 00:11:19,737 --> 00:11:24,737 {\an7}[Remy] -was one plastic card \h\h\haway from collapsing. 231 00:11:27,938 --> 00:11:31,235 {\an7}[Remy] Twelve-grade Shawana Kin has an idea to transform 232 00:11:31,235 --> 00:11:33,971 {\an7}her boyfriend‘s low key \h\h\h\hInternet hustle 233 00:11:33,971 --> 00:11:39,136 {\an7}\h\h\h\hinto a full fledged credit card fraud operation. 234 00:11:39,136 --> 00:11:42,268 {\an7}\h\hAll it took was a dark web connect from China named Ray. 235 00:11:42,268 --> 00:11:44,905 {\an7}[Shawana] We‘re buying \h\hcredit card tracks 236 00:11:44,905 --> 00:11:48,037 {\an7}and Ray was charging me \h\habout 125 per track. 237 00:11:48,037 --> 00:11:52,707 {\an7}[Remy] And we all know it‘s eas as hell to use your info online 238 00:11:52,707 --> 00:11:53,806 {\an7}but to use it in a store, 239 00:11:53,806 --> 00:11:57,971 {\an7}\hthat information had to be attached to a physical card. 240 00:11:57,971 --> 00:12:02,070 {\an7}Now, all they needed was any card with a magnetic strip. 241 00:12:02,070 --> 00:12:05,103 {\an7}\h\h[Shawana] So we‘d go to our local drugstores 242 00:12:05,103 --> 00:12:07,004 {\an7}and we‘d steal gift cards. 243 00:12:07,004 --> 00:12:07,872 {\an7}[Remy] Step two. 244 00:12:07,872 --> 00:12:09,037 {\an7}[Shawana] We bought a machine. 245 00:12:09,037 --> 00:12:11,235 {\an7}And what this machine does-- \h\h\h-[Remy] Whoa, hold up. 246 00:12:11,235 --> 00:12:14,169 {\an7}We‘re not gonna tell you how to \h\hactually commit the crime, 247 00:12:14,169 --> 00:12:18,773 {\an7}just know, Den and Shawana \h\h\hwere doing the most. 248 00:12:18,773 --> 00:12:21,707 {\an7}And they were up and running. 249 00:12:21,905 --> 00:12:22,707 {\an7}Things started to flow. 250 00:12:22,707 --> 00:12:25,905 {\an7}\h\h\h\hNow I‘m understanding what it is that I have to do. 251 00:12:25,905 --> 00:12:30,169 {\an7}[Remy] OK, but can you \htrust this dude Ray? 252 00:12:30,905 --> 00:12:35,542 {\an7}[Shawana] So now we‘re on our \h\hway to test out our cards. 253 00:12:37,806 --> 00:12:39,542 {\an7}[Remy] Here we go. 254 00:12:39,542 --> 00:12:42,433 {\an7}[Shawana] And I‘m nervous \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\has hell. 255 00:12:43,476 --> 00:12:47,235 {\an7}I wanted to buy two Xboxes. 256 00:12:47,872 --> 00:12:49,004 {\an7}I was scared, 257 00:12:49,004 --> 00:12:52,202 {\an7}but at the same time \h\h\hI was so eager 258 00:12:52,202 --> 00:12:55,773 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hto find out if it was gonna work. 259 00:13:05,301 --> 00:13:06,433 {\an7}If it says approved, 260 00:13:06,433 --> 00:13:11,136 {\an7}\hthen I know exactly what my future holds. 261 00:13:15,070 --> 00:13:16,542 {\an7}[machine beeps] 262 00:13:16,971 --> 00:13:19,103 {\an7}And the receipt comes out- 263 00:13:19,103 --> 00:13:20,400 {\an7}[register beeps] 264 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,334 {\an7}and it said approved. 265 00:13:23,136 --> 00:13:27,169 {\an7}We both looked at each other \h\h\h\h\h\hand we were like 266 00:13:27,169 --> 00:13:30,433 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hat bliss, like, it was just like, "what?" 267 00:13:30,433 --> 00:13:32,476 {\an7}We was lost for words. 268 00:13:33,872 --> 00:13:35,509 {\an7}[whispers] I was like- 269 00:13:35,509 --> 00:13:37,872 {\an7}we ‘bout to make some money. 270 00:13:37,872 --> 00:13:39,674 {\an7}[chuckles] 271 00:13:39,674 --> 00:13:41,367 {\an7}[Remy] Crazy money. It was on. 272 00:13:41,367 --> 00:13:44,575 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hAnd Shawana‘s mind was already thinking bigger. 273 00:13:44,575 --> 00:13:47,509 {\an7}[Shawana] We knew everyone \h\h\hwanted electronics. 274 00:13:47,509 --> 00:13:53,400 {\an7}So our plan was to resell electronics on Craigslist 275 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,169 {\an7}at a discount price. 276 00:13:55,169 --> 00:13:58,938 {\an7}So basically if I bought a laptop that was 2,800, 277 00:13:58,938 --> 00:14:01,476 {\an7}I would resell it for 2,200. 278 00:14:01,476 --> 00:14:04,367 {\an7}[Remy] There‘s a reason boostin has been around so long. 279 00:14:04,367 --> 00:14:08,301 {\an7}\h\h\hShawana and Den started pocketing thousands in profits. 280 00:14:08,301 --> 00:14:10,542 {\an7}[Shawana] It‘s so crazy \h\h\h‘cause it‘s like, 281 00:14:10,542 --> 00:14:12,608 {\an7}\h\h\hI was actually in people‘s wallets 282 00:14:12,608 --> 00:14:14,400 {\an7}without taking anything \h\h\h\h\h\h\hfrom them. 283 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:20,542 {\an7}[Remy] Um, let‘s be clear. You were taking something. 284 00:14:20,542 --> 00:14:23,905 {\an7}Money can make you like, \h\h\h\h\h\h\hruthless. 285 00:14:23,905 --> 00:14:25,400 {\an7}You know, money is power. 286 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,971 {\an7}And money can make you do things that you never want to do. 287 00:14:30,971 --> 00:14:33,334 {\an7}\h\h\h\hYou know, I look back at certain stuff and I‘m like, 288 00:14:33,334 --> 00:14:37,400 {\an7}\h\h"damn, I can‘t believe I‘ve done that," you know? 289 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,235 {\an7}[Remy] But her newfound cash \h\hflow provided the funds 290 00:14:40,235 --> 00:14:44,575 {\an7}for Shawana to help the person \h\h\hthat needed it the most. 291 00:14:44,575 --> 00:14:45,367 {\an7}Her mom. 292 00:14:45,367 --> 00:14:48,202 {\an7}[Shawana] My mom worked in a hospital as a patient escort 293 00:14:48,202 --> 00:14:52,268 {\an7}and she probably was making minimum wages at that time. 294 00:14:52,268 --> 00:14:56,575 {\an7}\hShe wanted to make sure I was well taken care of, 295 00:14:56,575 --> 00:15:00,334 {\an7}but things always got \h\hdifficult for her. 296 00:15:00,542 --> 00:15:03,235 {\an7}[Remy] Of course they did, \h\h\hbecause we all know 297 00:15:03,235 --> 00:15:06,037 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hminimum wage is not a living wage. 298 00:15:06,037 --> 00:15:08,103 {\an7}Back in 97, someone earning \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hminimum wage 299 00:15:08,103 --> 00:15:13,268 {\an7}\hlike Shawana‘s mom made 20% below the federal poverty line. 300 00:15:13,268 --> 00:15:16,938 {\an7}The line for qualifying \h\h\h\h\h\hfor welfare, 301 00:15:16,938 --> 00:15:20,301 {\an7}working full time. That‘s backwards. 302 00:15:20,301 --> 00:15:21,608 {\an7}And that gap hasn‘t shifted. 303 00:15:21,608 --> 00:15:24,608 {\an7}The working poor been \h\h\h\h\hstruggling, 304 00:15:24,608 --> 00:15:27,235 {\an7}still struggling. 305 00:15:27,235 --> 00:15:32,004 {\an7}But that wasn‘t the only thing \h\h\h\hgoing on at her mom‘s. 306 00:15:32,004 --> 00:15:36,169 {\an7}[Shawana] She was also in a \h\hreally bad relationship. 307 00:15:36,169 --> 00:15:39,070 {\an7}Certain things that happened \h\h\h\hin the relationship, 308 00:15:39,070 --> 00:15:41,608 {\an7}she didn‘t want me to notice. 309 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,608 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hShe was abused and it was just horrible. 310 00:15:47,608 --> 00:15:52,509 {\an7}I was extremely young \h\h\hand I felt like, 311 00:15:52,509 --> 00:15:54,641 {\an7}how am I gonna help my mom? 312 00:15:54,641 --> 00:15:58,367 {\an7}I wanna say stuff like, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"Mommy-" 313 00:16:04,971 --> 00:16:06,542 {\an7}[sniffs] 314 00:16:06,740 --> 00:16:09,400 {\an7}I seen a lot, you know. 315 00:16:13,367 --> 00:16:16,301 {\an7}\h\h[Remy] And that little seven-year-old savior mode 316 00:16:16,301 --> 00:16:19,103 {\an7}was still in full effect. 317 00:16:19,301 --> 00:16:21,367 {\an7}[Shawana] I got her an apartment 318 00:16:21,367 --> 00:16:23,707 {\an7}and I paid all of the bills. 319 00:16:23,707 --> 00:16:26,674 {\an7}\hI wanted to fix things that made her stressed, 320 00:16:26,674 --> 00:16:30,509 {\an7}depressed, especially when it came to money. 321 00:16:30,509 --> 00:16:33,674 {\an7}I seen the happiness in her. 322 00:16:33,872 --> 00:16:38,136 {\an7}So I felt good because, \h\h\h\hlike, my mom is 323 00:16:38,136 --> 00:16:42,367 {\an7}the best person in the world \h\h\h\h\h\hto me, you know. 324 00:16:49,806 --> 00:16:54,400 {\an7}\h\h\hOnce I started to lift the heaviness of her chest, 325 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,641 {\an7}I felt like this can‘t stop. 326 00:16:58,070 --> 00:17:00,608 {\an7}I‘ve got to continue to go hard 327 00:17:00,608 --> 00:17:02,674 {\an7}\h\h\hbecause I have someone to support. 328 00:17:02,674 --> 00:17:07,037 {\an7}[Remy] More mouths to feed mean it was time to up the ante. 329 00:17:07,037 --> 00:17:10,674 {\an7}You know, we started off \h\hhaving four laptops, 330 00:17:10,674 --> 00:17:11,433 {\an7}five laptops. 331 00:17:11,433 --> 00:17:14,268 {\an7}But, you know, it got to the \h\hpoint where we had about 332 00:17:14,268 --> 00:17:15,202 {\an7}30 and 40 laptops. 333 00:17:15,202 --> 00:17:18,103 {\an7}\h[Remy] That‘s probably gonna take some time on Craigslist. 334 00:17:18,103 --> 00:17:22,136 {\an7}\h[Shawana] So we had to search for someone to actually purchase 335 00:17:22,136 --> 00:17:23,476 {\an7}that large inventory. 336 00:17:23,476 --> 00:17:25,037 {\an7}[Remy] And as luck \h\hwould have it, 337 00:17:25,037 --> 00:17:28,301 {\an7}a connect felt right \h\h\hin their laps. 338 00:17:28,301 --> 00:17:32,542 {\an7}\h\h[Shawana] We find this guy and he owns electronics stores 339 00:17:32,542 --> 00:17:35,268 {\an7}\h\h\hand since we have such a large inventory, 340 00:17:35,268 --> 00:17:37,641 {\an7}he wanted to buy everything. 341 00:17:38,334 --> 00:17:41,202 {\an7}And I was nervous as [bleep]. 342 00:17:42,301 --> 00:17:45,268 {\an7}Because I want this money, \h\h\h\hbut I didn‘t know 343 00:17:45,268 --> 00:17:46,334 {\an7}if he was going to set us up, 344 00:17:46,334 --> 00:17:48,740 {\an7}\h\hget us robbed or take all the laptops 345 00:17:48,740 --> 00:17:49,608 {\an7}or call the police. 346 00:17:49,608 --> 00:17:53,103 {\an7}I didn‘t know what the hell \h\h\h\h\hwas gonna happen. 347 00:17:53,103 --> 00:17:54,367 {\an7}[Remy] If this dude was legit 348 00:17:54,367 --> 00:17:57,608 {\an7}it meant going from making \h\ha few thousand dollars 349 00:17:57,608 --> 00:18:00,839 {\an7}to hundreds of thousands. 350 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,433 {\an7}[Shawana] My heart is racing, \h\h\h\hmy heart is pounding, 351 00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:08,400 {\an7}I‘m sweating, 352 00:18:11,235 --> 00:18:14,773 {\an7}I‘m watching what‘s going on \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\haround me. 353 00:18:22,542 --> 00:18:26,542 {\an7}So Dennis gives me the bag \h\h\h\h\h\hand I open it. 354 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,707 {\an7}I was like, "how much is this?" 355 00:18:31,707 --> 00:18:34,202 {\an7}He was like, "68,000.‘ 356 00:18:35,202 --> 00:18:38,542 {\an7}[whispers] And I‘m like, wow. 357 00:18:39,334 --> 00:18:40,674 {\an7}That‘s a lot of [bleep] money, 358 00:18:40,674 --> 00:18:43,433 {\an7}[Remy] That is a lot of \h\h\h\h\h[bleep] money. 359 00:18:43,433 --> 00:18:46,905 {\an7}So, y‘all know there‘s definitely some drama 360 00:18:46,905 --> 00:18:48,971 {\an7}coming with it. 361 00:18:48,971 --> 00:18:49,872 {\an7}\h\hI‘m like, "yes, is there a problem?" 362 00:18:49,872 --> 00:18:53,433 {\an7}And they‘re like, "yeah, \h\hthere is a problem." 363 00:19:01,973 --> 00:19:03,842 [Remy] Shawana King and her boyfriend, Dennis, 364 00:19:03,842 --> 00:19:07,112 were flying high because they found a legit hookup 365 00:19:07,112 --> 00:19:11,750 to unload large quantities of their not-so-legit goods. 366 00:19:13,919 --> 00:19:15,954 But to get down on this new level, 367 00:19:15,954 --> 00:19:18,023 they were going to have to up their game. 368 00:19:18,123 --> 00:19:20,492 I'm like, "listen, we got to switch it up 369 00:19:20,592 --> 00:19:22,961 and this is how we're going to change it. 370 00:19:23,461 --> 00:19:26,264 We're not using those gift cards anymore. 371 00:19:26,731 --> 00:19:29,534 We're gonna have Ray send us real cards. 372 00:19:29,601 --> 00:19:31,169 [Remy] Gift cards have limits, 373 00:19:31,469 --> 00:19:34,673 but a real card with a matching I.D.- 374 00:19:35,173 --> 00:19:36,107 limitless. 375 00:19:36,641 --> 00:19:38,243 [Shawana] So when we did get those cards in the mail, 376 00:19:38,243 --> 00:19:41,313 it was like, it was the best feeling. 377 00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:43,849 So my confidence was all the way up there 378 00:19:43,849 --> 00:19:46,785 because now I don't care if they look at the card, 379 00:19:46,785 --> 00:19:49,321 it says my name and I got an I.D. to match it. 380 00:19:51,022 --> 00:19:55,961 Now, I'm confident that what I'm doing is about to take off. 381 00:19:58,530 --> 00:20:00,398 [Remy] And that new puff in her chest 382 00:20:00,732 --> 00:20:02,834 had her playing the role to the fullest. 383 00:20:03,068 --> 00:20:05,370 [Shawana] Anytime I went into the stores 384 00:20:05,470 --> 00:20:08,206 I always made sure I looked like money, 385 00:20:08,373 --> 00:20:09,674 smelled like money. 386 00:20:10,442 --> 00:20:13,378 In my head, I knew I was that [bleep]. 387 00:20:13,378 --> 00:20:15,113 I knew I was the bomb. 388 00:20:15,247 --> 00:20:16,915 [Remy] She was so gassed. 389 00:20:16,915 --> 00:20:18,717 [Shawana] I don't know what it is. 390 00:20:18,717 --> 00:20:20,385 It's just when I'm dealing with a sales person, 391 00:20:20,385 --> 00:20:22,287 I know how to take control. 392 00:20:23,221 --> 00:20:24,856 I try to think ahead. 393 00:20:25,257 --> 00:20:28,660 You know, I always try to be ten steps ahead of the store, 394 00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:30,896 ten steps ahead of my game, period. 395 00:20:31,062 --> 00:20:33,465 [Remy] Just like that brown coat. 396 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,605 [Shawana] I remember one day, oh, my God, 397 00:20:41,306 --> 00:20:42,440 it was crazy. 398 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,543 I went into this electronics store. 399 00:20:48,113 --> 00:20:49,948 And the cashier was like, 400 00:20:49,948 --> 00:20:52,651 just giving me a real crazy vibe. 401 00:20:56,488 --> 00:20:58,757 Even though I was dressed the part, 402 00:20:59,157 --> 00:21:01,593 she just wasn't really feeling it. 403 00:21:02,060 --> 00:21:05,497 [Remy] Well, it is hard to pass game on another sister. 404 00:21:05,564 --> 00:21:08,567 [Shawana] So she takes the card as she swipes it. 405 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:10,468 And it goes through. 406 00:21:10,468 --> 00:21:12,737 When it goes through, she's even more mad. 407 00:21:14,539 --> 00:21:18,210 She's like, "just give me one second," 408 00:21:18,543 --> 00:21:20,445 so she runs off with the card. 409 00:21:23,381 --> 00:21:24,816 Security comes up to me and they like, 410 00:21:24,816 --> 00:21:26,084 "can you come to the back?" 411 00:21:26,084 --> 00:21:27,919 I'm like, "yes, is there a problem?" 412 00:21:27,986 --> 00:21:30,021 And they like, "yeah, there is a problem." 413 00:21:30,088 --> 00:21:33,658 "You purchased this laptop with a stolen credit card." 414 00:21:34,626 --> 00:21:37,729 [Remy] Looks like they smell something other than money. 415 00:21:40,398 --> 00:21:44,769 [Shawana] I was shaking on the inside, but not on the outside. 416 00:21:44,769 --> 00:21:48,507 I did not want that guy to feel that I was nervous. 417 00:21:48,940 --> 00:21:52,644 [Remy] And that Brooklyn fast talking street corner flex 418 00:21:52,644 --> 00:21:53,578 she grew up watching, 419 00:21:53,778 --> 00:21:55,580 kicked in big time. 420 00:21:55,580 --> 00:21:58,583 I felt like I was going to control that situation. 421 00:21:59,918 --> 00:22:02,354 You know, so I'm going back and forth with the security 422 00:22:02,354 --> 00:22:04,122 and I'm kind of yelling at him. 423 00:22:04,122 --> 00:22:05,824 I'm like, "do you want to see my I.D.? 424 00:22:05,824 --> 00:22:07,459 "If you wanna see my ID, you could've just asked me 425 00:22:07,459 --> 00:22:08,426 for my I.D." 426 00:22:08,493 --> 00:22:10,395 What's the issue? 427 00:22:11,129 --> 00:22:12,597 [Shawana] So he's looking at it. 428 00:22:13,732 --> 00:22:15,567 He give me back my I.D., 429 00:22:15,567 --> 00:22:18,203 but he's still holding this card for some reason. 430 00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:21,673 I can't seem to comprehend why I'm back here. 431 00:22:21,873 --> 00:22:23,775 So that's when I remembered something. 432 00:22:23,775 --> 00:22:25,510 Oh, of course, I have more proof. 433 00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:27,078 Let me show it. 434 00:22:28,213 --> 00:22:30,415 I said, "listen, you see this paper? 435 00:22:32,684 --> 00:22:35,720 " It says congratulations. It says my name. 436 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,889 "It says that I was approved for 50,000 dollars 437 00:22:37,889 --> 00:22:40,425 for a credit card and this is the card I'm using." 438 00:22:40,625 --> 00:22:42,060 [Remy] Wait a minute. 439 00:22:42,060 --> 00:22:44,496 This girl had a fake congratulations letter 440 00:22:44,496 --> 00:22:46,531 standing by in her purse. 441 00:22:46,965 --> 00:22:48,767 And he looks at the letter. 442 00:22:48,767 --> 00:22:51,236 And he gives it back to me and he gives me back my card. 443 00:22:51,236 --> 00:22:55,507 And he said, "Ma'am, I apologize." 444 00:22:56,041 --> 00:22:57,242 "I'm so sorry." 445 00:22:58,210 --> 00:23:00,412 [Remy] I mean, what's there left to say? 446 00:23:00,779 --> 00:23:02,247 Don't hate the player. 447 00:23:03,515 --> 00:23:06,918 I'ma let Shawana's girl, Aisha Hall, break it down. 448 00:23:06,918 --> 00:23:09,554 I think that sometimes the intellectual side 449 00:23:09,554 --> 00:23:11,656 and the creative side and the genius side 450 00:23:11,656 --> 00:23:13,358 of what's being done is lost 451 00:23:13,358 --> 00:23:16,394 because it's in the form of a criminal act. 452 00:23:16,628 --> 00:23:18,797 But you can't take away from the fact that 453 00:23:18,797 --> 00:23:21,967 you have to be extremely, extremely smart 454 00:23:21,967 --> 00:23:24,970 to be able to do some of the things that Shawana was doing. 455 00:23:25,403 --> 00:23:26,438 [Remy] Right. 456 00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:29,374 And when you feel like you're unstoppable, 457 00:23:29,608 --> 00:23:31,743 well, it's hard to stop. 458 00:23:36,615 --> 00:23:38,183 [Shawana] As time progressed, 459 00:23:38,183 --> 00:23:41,386 I started spending my money on big things, you know, 460 00:23:41,386 --> 00:23:43,555 so now I needed more money 461 00:23:43,555 --> 00:23:47,392 and my wants got bigger and my needs got bigger 462 00:23:47,392 --> 00:23:49,161 and everything just got bigger. 463 00:23:50,395 --> 00:23:53,098 I can buy all the clothes I want, jewelry, 464 00:23:53,231 --> 00:23:56,601 I can buy shoes, I can buy anything I pretty much want 465 00:23:56,601 --> 00:23:58,737 'cause I had endless credit cards. 466 00:23:58,737 --> 00:24:00,672 It was like limitless. 467 00:24:01,706 --> 00:24:03,441 I didn't have any fear. 468 00:24:03,775 --> 00:24:05,143 Money is just coming in 469 00:24:05,143 --> 00:24:07,646 and everything just seems so great. 470 00:24:08,113 --> 00:24:10,715 [Remy] Shawana was way beyond just trying 471 00:24:10,715 --> 00:24:12,350 to take care of her family. 472 00:24:12,818 --> 00:24:14,419 [Chyna] I remember when she got a Birkin. 473 00:24:14,419 --> 00:24:15,787 I thought that was like, insane. 474 00:24:15,987 --> 00:24:18,256 That's like, more expensive than a car. 475 00:24:18,490 --> 00:24:22,861 ♪ I probably don't need it, but damn, I need it ♪♪ 476 00:24:22,928 --> 00:24:25,397 And I remember thinking like, "Shawana, what happened?" 477 00:24:25,463 --> 00:24:27,732 So I think she started out saying, like, you know, 478 00:24:27,732 --> 00:24:29,634 "I'm tired of seeing my mother struggle. 479 00:24:29,634 --> 00:24:30,769 I want to help her." 480 00:24:31,002 --> 00:24:32,370 And then it was all about pocketbooks 481 00:24:32,370 --> 00:24:36,374 and jewelry and Rolexes and cars and clubs. 482 00:24:36,374 --> 00:24:37,609 She got so caught up. 483 00:24:38,376 --> 00:24:41,379 [Remy] And no one benefiting asked questions. 484 00:24:41,379 --> 00:24:42,781 Right, baby sis Yakia? 485 00:24:42,781 --> 00:24:45,650 I never cared how she was getting it. 486 00:24:46,051 --> 00:24:47,786 I was just so infatuated with the things 487 00:24:47,786 --> 00:24:49,421 that was coming my way. 488 00:24:49,421 --> 00:24:51,289 I was like, "oh, this is nice." 489 00:24:51,389 --> 00:24:54,259 Like, I got a new bag. I got some shoes. 490 00:24:54,259 --> 00:24:55,961 She was always giving to us. 491 00:24:58,763 --> 00:25:01,633 [Remy] But the thing about stolen credit cards is - 492 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,935 you gotta keep changing them 493 00:25:04,035 --> 00:25:07,038 once the person realizes their card was stolen. 494 00:25:07,339 --> 00:25:10,642 So Shawana and Den had to keep paying Ray 495 00:25:10,642 --> 00:25:12,043 for more card shipments. 496 00:25:12,377 --> 00:25:14,813 Their whole game depended on him. 497 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,348 So there was one particular day 498 00:25:16,348 --> 00:25:18,550 we were waiting for a shipment to come in 499 00:25:19,351 --> 00:25:23,455 and this shipment didn't come in on that Tuesday. 500 00:25:23,955 --> 00:25:26,124 Wednesday came, Thursday came. 501 00:25:26,124 --> 00:25:28,126 So now I'm getting a bit worried. 502 00:25:28,493 --> 00:25:31,263 I just felt like, it was something in my gut. 503 00:25:31,363 --> 00:25:34,099 It was just butterflies. It just felt so weird. 504 00:25:34,666 --> 00:25:36,801 So I go to the computer and it says 505 00:25:36,801 --> 00:25:38,370 that my package is in customs 506 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:40,372 and had been in there for three days 507 00:25:40,572 --> 00:25:43,708 so I write Ray to find out what's up. 508 00:25:44,109 --> 00:25:47,379 Ray said, "be careful." That's all he said. 509 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,650 [Remy] Be careful- of what? 510 00:25:59,065 --> 00:26:02,535 Nineteen-year-old Shawana King's entire scheme 511 00:26:02,602 --> 00:26:05,371 rests on her credit card shipments from China, 512 00:26:05,371 --> 00:26:08,641 and when one of her packages gets delayed at Customs, 513 00:26:09,008 --> 00:26:11,877 Shawana can sense something is off. 514 00:26:12,411 --> 00:26:15,414 Ray said, "Be careful." That's all he said. 515 00:26:16,449 --> 00:26:19,452 And I'm like, "what do you mean, be careful?" 516 00:26:20,286 --> 00:26:23,022 "Please elaborate, what the hell does that mean?" 517 00:26:23,889 --> 00:26:25,558 And Ray didn't respond. 518 00:26:26,225 --> 00:26:31,030 [Remy] Um, how much clearer can "be careful" be? 519 00:26:31,297 --> 00:26:32,698 I told Den, I said, 520 00:26:32,698 --> 00:26:35,334 "yo, there's something about this package. 521 00:26:35,668 --> 00:26:37,203 Like, I don't know what it is." 522 00:26:38,638 --> 00:26:41,207 And for some reason, that whole week 523 00:26:41,707 --> 00:26:43,242 felt crazy to me. 524 00:26:44,777 --> 00:26:47,146 I just felt like I was being watched 525 00:26:47,146 --> 00:26:50,416 or I felt like something was going on. 526 00:26:52,118 --> 00:26:55,354 What really was going on was the feds was on us. 527 00:26:58,524 --> 00:27:02,995 Ray was getting hot in China, so they started to watch him 528 00:27:02,995 --> 00:27:04,563 and when they were watching him, 529 00:27:04,563 --> 00:27:06,866 they were watching everyone that he was shipping, too. 530 00:27:06,933 --> 00:27:09,802 So any package that he shipped out, 531 00:27:09,902 --> 00:27:11,871 they opened it, they sealed it back 532 00:27:11,871 --> 00:27:13,506 and they shipped it to us. 533 00:27:13,506 --> 00:27:16,275 [Remy] Yo, the feds be on some sneaky [bleep]. 534 00:27:16,275 --> 00:27:18,311 That's how they set the trap. 535 00:27:18,644 --> 00:27:20,313 Be careful. 536 00:27:23,215 --> 00:27:26,786 [Shawana] Within a week, Dennis called me and he's like, 537 00:27:26,786 --> 00:27:29,288 "Yo, yo-" 538 00:27:29,755 --> 00:27:31,691 And I'm like, "What?" He's like, 539 00:27:31,691 --> 00:27:33,559 "Yo, I think I'm being followed." 540 00:27:33,626 --> 00:27:36,696 I'm like, "You're being followed by whom?" 541 00:27:38,464 --> 00:27:41,901 He said, "I don't know but it's like some Secret Service 542 00:27:41,901 --> 00:27:43,336 or something going on." 543 00:27:44,036 --> 00:27:46,439 And I'm like, screaming into the phone, 544 00:27:46,505 --> 00:27:48,741 "what do you mean, you being followed?" 545 00:27:48,741 --> 00:27:51,344 "OK, I'm getting in the car now." 546 00:27:51,344 --> 00:27:53,045 [tires screeching] 547 00:27:53,379 --> 00:27:55,681 As I'm driving, I'm like shaking, 548 00:27:55,748 --> 00:27:59,218 I barely could hold the steering wheel straight. 549 00:28:01,954 --> 00:28:05,157 My mind is just racing, is just like all over the place. 550 00:28:06,392 --> 00:28:09,629 I don't know how I can save my man at this time, 551 00:28:09,862 --> 00:28:12,898 so I need to figure this out. 552 00:28:13,332 --> 00:28:14,533 [Remy] And when she caught up to him, 553 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,569 it was wilder than she even thought. 554 00:28:16,569 --> 00:28:21,941 I'm like, "yo, there's a bunch of [bleep] cars following you." 555 00:28:23,442 --> 00:28:25,945 I'm trying my best to think of something, 556 00:28:26,012 --> 00:28:28,080 I'm like, how is he gonna get away? 557 00:28:30,316 --> 00:28:32,618 Let me think, let me think, let me think. 558 00:28:32,985 --> 00:28:36,255 [Remy] And then a crazy ass plan clicked. 559 00:28:36,255 --> 00:28:38,057 It involved their boy, B. 560 00:28:38,190 --> 00:28:41,627 [Shawana] So I say, "yo listen, go to your mom's job 561 00:28:41,627 --> 00:28:45,298 and have B meet you there and let me go in front of you 562 00:28:45,298 --> 00:28:48,401 so I can get to the warehouse before you. 563 00:28:49,402 --> 00:28:51,604 So you're gonna jump in my car 564 00:28:51,604 --> 00:28:55,508 and B is gonna jump in your car, when you get into the warehouse, 565 00:28:55,574 --> 00:28:57,276 make sure you do that. 566 00:28:57,276 --> 00:28:59,178 So as I'm in the warehouse, 567 00:28:59,245 --> 00:29:01,847 his friend is in the warehouse as well waiting. 568 00:29:04,150 --> 00:29:07,753 I'm stressed the hell out because he's about to 569 00:29:07,753 --> 00:29:09,789 potentially get arrested. 570 00:29:11,791 --> 00:29:14,593 And I didn't know if this plan was even gonna work. 571 00:29:14,961 --> 00:29:17,296 [Remy] But that definitely wasn't gonna stop her. 572 00:29:17,463 --> 00:29:19,599 [Shawana] You know, about three minutes later, 573 00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:21,400 Den pulls up in the warehouse. 574 00:29:26,005 --> 00:29:29,275 I was trying to make it seem like he was Dennis. 575 00:29:29,275 --> 00:29:32,578 Denny's jumped in my car, his friend jumps in his car. 576 00:29:39,185 --> 00:29:40,519 [Remy] Once the switch was made, 577 00:29:40,586 --> 00:29:43,189 their boy B pulled out in Den's car 578 00:29:44,924 --> 00:29:47,326 and the feds fell for it. 579 00:29:48,494 --> 00:29:51,297 [Aisha] And the police continued to follow this car 580 00:29:51,364 --> 00:29:54,333 thinking that it was Den and Shawana and Den 581 00:29:54,333 --> 00:29:56,969 were going the complete opposite direction. 582 00:29:57,470 --> 00:29:59,205 I mean, that was a sick maneuver. 583 00:29:59,205 --> 00:30:01,374 I was like, [bleep]. 584 00:30:02,174 --> 00:30:04,143 [Remy] Straight out of a movie. 585 00:30:04,243 --> 00:30:05,678 And they got away. 586 00:30:06,145 --> 00:30:10,149 But Shawana knew it wasn't over. Everything was different. 587 00:30:11,384 --> 00:30:14,153 [Shawana] I knew that if they were following Den, 588 00:30:14,153 --> 00:30:17,156 if he was in trouble, I was in trouble too. 589 00:30:19,425 --> 00:30:22,194 [Remy] And so was everyone else in her family. 590 00:30:22,194 --> 00:30:24,463 Look, if her money dried up, 591 00:30:24,530 --> 00:30:27,166 the rug was getting pulled on everybody 592 00:30:27,166 --> 00:30:28,601 just like when she was a kid. 593 00:30:29,001 --> 00:30:32,538 So the two decided to lay low at her mom's house. 594 00:30:33,806 --> 00:30:37,343 So two weeks passes, three weeks passes, 595 00:30:37,343 --> 00:30:39,779 and then is just like- 596 00:30:40,513 --> 00:30:42,815 yo, nobody's coming for us. 597 00:30:42,815 --> 00:30:44,350 Like, we're good. 598 00:30:46,419 --> 00:30:49,088 But I felt like there was more to come. 599 00:30:49,422 --> 00:30:50,856 [Remy] And there was. 600 00:30:50,856 --> 00:30:53,392 [shouting] 601 00:30:55,327 --> 00:30:57,696 Shawana King and her boyfriend, Dennis, 602 00:30:57,696 --> 00:31:01,132 had hoped they outsmarted the feds and were in the clear. 603 00:31:01,132 --> 00:31:03,868 But as Shawana feared, it wasn't over. 604 00:31:03,868 --> 00:31:05,937 It was just the beginning. 605 00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:13,845 [Shawana] Den and I are sleeping, 606 00:31:14,112 --> 00:31:15,780 and I'm in my room, 607 00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:20,952 my mom is there and I hear, "boom, boom, boom, boom." 608 00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:24,422 And I'm like, "what the hell is that?" 609 00:31:26,024 --> 00:31:27,492 So my mother say, 610 00:31:27,492 --> 00:31:30,262 "who the hell is knocking on my door like that?" 611 00:31:33,965 --> 00:31:35,700 My mom opens the door-- 612 00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:37,335 [indistinguishable shouting] 613 00:31:37,402 --> 00:31:39,070 Freeze! Who's in the house with you? 614 00:31:39,070 --> 00:31:40,005 Who's in the house with you? 615 00:31:40,005 --> 00:31:41,106 This way, this way. 616 00:31:41,172 --> 00:31:42,874 Let's go! 617 00:31:42,874 --> 00:31:44,576 [Shawana] I hear them say, "who's in the house with you?" 618 00:31:45,510 --> 00:31:47,279 You would have thought they was coming there 619 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:48,647 for murder or something. 620 00:31:48,647 --> 00:31:50,181 [police shouting] Who's in the house? 621 00:31:50,181 --> 00:31:51,983 [woman] Don't shoot! Don't shoot! 622 00:31:52,284 --> 00:31:54,352 [Shawana] I'm like shaking. 623 00:31:55,253 --> 00:31:58,123 I'm like, what the hell? 624 00:32:00,425 --> 00:32:02,594 Just seeing my mom's face, 625 00:32:03,495 --> 00:32:06,264 my mom looks so destroyed. 626 00:32:06,965 --> 00:32:11,136 She just looked so hurt, I felt horrible. 627 00:32:15,273 --> 00:32:17,442 [Remy] Because it was her first ofense, Shawana 628 00:32:17,442 --> 00:32:19,611 was released on bail later that night, 629 00:32:19,611 --> 00:32:23,081 but Den had prior, so he was stuck for a minute. 630 00:32:23,815 --> 00:32:26,885 So I come home and I'm destroyed. 631 00:32:27,819 --> 00:32:31,056 Den is not there. We don't have no money. 632 00:32:31,056 --> 00:32:32,257 I don't know what to do. 633 00:32:32,891 --> 00:32:35,994 [Yakia] She was just lost like a deer in the headlights. 634 00:32:36,061 --> 00:32:38,263 I never saw her like that before. 635 00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:41,499 Like I never saw her, like, not know a way. 636 00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:44,836 [Remy] With the trial pending, the two of them were put 637 00:32:44,836 --> 00:32:46,238 under federal supervision, 638 00:32:46,605 --> 00:32:49,040 which means they couldn't leave the state of New York. 639 00:32:49,140 --> 00:32:50,842 Shawana found a decent 9:00 to 5:00. 640 00:32:50,842 --> 00:32:53,245 And when Den was released, he did, too. 641 00:32:53,245 --> 00:32:55,547 And they were good for a minute . 642 00:32:55,547 --> 00:33:00,151 Until the reality of an hourly wage lifestyle really set in. 643 00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:03,555 I wanted to make fast money 644 00:33:03,555 --> 00:33:06,558 and I wasn't taught another way to make money. 645 00:33:06,558 --> 00:33:12,497 I was only 19, 20 years old, and that's all I knew. 646 00:33:12,797 --> 00:33:14,466 ♪ Money, money, money all the time ♪ 647 00:33:14,466 --> 00:33:15,901 ♪ what I'm thinking about ♪♪ 648 00:33:16,268 --> 00:33:19,437 And that's not surprising because the same obstacles 649 00:33:19,437 --> 00:33:22,340 her parents faced to not only survive, 650 00:33:22,340 --> 00:33:26,011 but for the chance to move up and out was still true 651 00:33:26,011 --> 00:33:27,545 two decades later, 652 00:33:27,612 --> 00:33:30,448 not much in her community had gotten better. 653 00:33:30,448 --> 00:33:33,485 In fact, where you grow up plays a significant role 654 00:33:33,485 --> 00:33:35,120 on your future earnings. 655 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,823 Census data can pinpoint specific hindering factors 656 00:33:38,823 --> 00:33:40,959 down to the block you were raised on. 657 00:33:40,959 --> 00:33:45,397 In Brooklyn, the kids who grew up in the 80s and 90s, 658 00:33:45,397 --> 00:33:50,468 only 6% moved from the bottom 20% to the top 20%. 659 00:33:50,535 --> 00:33:52,904 That left 94% of folks 660 00:33:52,904 --> 00:33:56,074 that more or less remain status quo 661 00:33:56,074 --> 00:33:58,843 from generation to generation. 662 00:33:59,177 --> 00:34:01,279 So it's no wonder Shawana did 663 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:03,348 just like everyone else on her block. 664 00:34:03,882 --> 00:34:07,118 I seen hustlers go to jail, come out and do it again 665 00:34:07,118 --> 00:34:08,987 and make more money, you know, 666 00:34:08,987 --> 00:34:11,389 so I figured in my head, OK, 667 00:34:11,389 --> 00:34:13,124 maybe that's just a part of the game. 668 00:34:13,191 --> 00:34:15,694 You know, you [bleep] and you have to 669 00:34:15,694 --> 00:34:18,563 do it the smarter way. That's just a part of life. 670 00:34:18,697 --> 00:34:20,899 [Remy] So Shawana and Dennis did what they do, 671 00:34:20,899 --> 00:34:23,368 they read up and got back in the game. 672 00:34:23,835 --> 00:34:26,204 And didn't give a damn about the consequences. 673 00:34:26,204 --> 00:34:28,473 So we cut Ray out completely. 674 00:34:29,140 --> 00:34:32,143 [Remy] Sorry, Ray, but out goes the middleman. 675 00:34:32,210 --> 00:34:34,579 We bought all of the machines. 676 00:34:36,381 --> 00:34:39,451 And we started having people work for us, you know, 677 00:34:39,451 --> 00:34:42,854 so he got two friends, I got two friends. 678 00:34:43,355 --> 00:34:45,991 [Remy] And they went from a mom and pop shop 679 00:34:45,991 --> 00:34:48,426 to a full on franchise. 680 00:34:48,493 --> 00:34:50,395 Shawana was CEO. 681 00:34:50,395 --> 00:34:52,697 I was good at strategizing 682 00:34:52,697 --> 00:34:56,668 and figuring out ways that we can make more money. 683 00:34:56,968 --> 00:34:58,770 I did feel like a boss-- 684 00:34:58,770 --> 00:35:01,439 [Remy] And she was. But for her family, 685 00:35:01,439 --> 00:35:03,575 the slip back was hard to watch. 686 00:35:03,575 --> 00:35:06,912 I'm like, listen, you got to chill, right? 687 00:35:07,078 --> 00:35:09,481 You get caught again, you gonna do some real time 688 00:35:09,481 --> 00:35:11,216 'cause you on probation 689 00:35:11,216 --> 00:35:13,285 and you on federal probation. 690 00:35:13,785 --> 00:35:15,787 [Remy] But Shawana wasn't trying to hear none of that. 691 00:35:15,787 --> 00:35:17,789 There was money to be made. 692 00:35:20,792 --> 00:35:22,160 So, you know, things are rolling. 693 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,796 Money is coming in. We are good. 694 00:35:24,796 --> 00:35:26,565 [Remy] To continue their business growth 695 00:35:26,565 --> 00:35:28,533 operations needed to expand, 696 00:35:28,633 --> 00:35:30,802 so they hit the road. 697 00:35:31,803 --> 00:35:33,572 [Shawana] We were in the state of Pennsylvania 698 00:35:33,572 --> 00:35:36,207 and Den's friend, Young B, was with us, 699 00:35:36,207 --> 00:35:38,209 he got two laptops. 700 00:35:39,344 --> 00:35:41,313 We drive off. 701 00:35:43,915 --> 00:35:47,519 We hear sirens and we look back like, oh, my God. 702 00:35:49,321 --> 00:35:52,057 [Remy] Neither one of them was supposed to leave the state. 703 00:35:52,123 --> 00:35:55,493 So no amount of fast talking was going to fix this. 704 00:35:56,194 --> 00:36:00,198 Everything in my world, I felt it was coming down, 705 00:36:00,198 --> 00:36:01,967 was coming to an end. 706 00:36:04,826 --> 00:36:05,826 {\an7}[Remy] Swipe queen Shawana King 707 00:36:05,826 --> 00:36:08,750 {\an7}\h\hthought she could still make moves under the radar, 708 00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:13,222 {\an7}\h\h\hbut the cops may see it just a little bit differently. 709 00:36:13,222 --> 00:36:14,519 {\an7}They asked me for my I.D. 710 00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:17,618 {\an7}They noticed that I‘m on \h\hfederal supervision, 711 00:36:17,618 --> 00:36:20,486 {\an7}Den is on federal supervision. 712 00:36:20,486 --> 00:36:21,859 {\an7}[Remy] And without hesitation, 713 00:36:21,859 --> 00:36:26,453 {\an7}they‘re both thrown in jail \h\h\hto await their trial. 714 00:36:26,651 --> 00:36:29,651 {\an7}Shawana pled guilty to credit card fraud 715 00:36:29,651 --> 00:36:31,925 {\an7}and was sentenced \hto a combination 716 00:36:31,925 --> 00:36:33,717 {\an7}of five years in prison. 717 00:36:33,717 --> 00:36:36,859 {\an7}Dennis ultimately got six. 718 00:36:40,387 --> 00:36:44,717 {\an7}[Shawana] That day just felt so bad, 719 00:36:44,717 --> 00:36:46,453 {\an7}not even because of my situation, 720 00:36:46,453 --> 00:36:50,925 {\an7}just because of how I was making the people around me feel. 721 00:36:50,925 --> 00:36:52,420 {\an7}My family. 722 00:36:52,420 --> 00:36:54,354 {\an7}[Leslie] I was scared for her \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hgoing to jail 723 00:36:54,354 --> 00:36:56,519 {\an7}\h\h\h‘cause I didn‘t know how she was gonna take it. 724 00:36:56,519 --> 00:36:59,255 {\an7}\h\h\hI didn‘t know if it was gonna kill her 725 00:36:59,255 --> 00:37:02,255 {\an7}or teach her a lesson. 726 00:37:02,453 --> 00:37:04,585 {\an7}She had to humble herself. 727 00:37:04,585 --> 00:37:06,958 {\an7}We all gotta humble ourselves. 728 00:37:06,958 --> 00:37:07,925 {\an7}[Remy] She was 19. 729 00:37:07,925 --> 00:37:13,321 {\an7}It was time to grow up and star looking at the bigger picture. 730 00:37:13,321 --> 00:37:14,387 {\an7}[Shawana] I started to think \h\h\h\h\habout the victims 731 00:37:14,387 --> 00:37:18,651 {\an7}and think about the people who are possibly hurting, 732 00:37:18,651 --> 00:37:21,486 {\an7}the people I stole from. 733 00:37:21,684 --> 00:37:23,925 {\an7}They were hardworking people. 734 00:37:23,925 --> 00:37:27,519 {\an7}I started to disconnect \h\hmyself from Dennis. 735 00:37:27,519 --> 00:37:30,717 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hI love him but our whole relationship, 736 00:37:30,717 --> 00:37:31,585 {\an7}was just based on money, 737 00:37:31,585 --> 00:37:34,892 {\an7}[Remy] She may have moved on \hfrom her partner in crime, 738 00:37:34,892 --> 00:37:37,859 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbut in prison, she found another right hand. 739 00:37:37,859 --> 00:37:39,354 {\an7}[Aisha] My lawyer mentioned \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hher name. 740 00:37:39,354 --> 00:37:41,420 {\an7}He said there‘s another case \h\h\h\h\hthat I heard about 741 00:37:41,420 --> 00:37:45,453 {\an7}\hwith this girl, she‘s like the credit card fraud queen 742 00:37:45,453 --> 00:37:46,156 {\an7}Shawana King. 743 00:37:46,156 --> 00:37:48,651 {\an7}\h\h\h\hI had no idea that she was so young. 744 00:37:48,651 --> 00:37:52,255 {\an7}[Remy] Aisha immediately took \hthe new kid under her wing. 745 00:37:52,255 --> 00:37:54,859 {\an7}\h[Aisha] We would walk around the prison and I would really 746 00:37:54,859 --> 00:37:57,991 {\an7}talk to her about what you wanna do when you get out of here? 747 00:37:57,991 --> 00:37:59,618 {\an7}You‘re not going to go \hget a 9:00 to 5:00. 748 00:37:59,618 --> 00:38:01,859 {\an7}\h\h\h\hThat‘s not your thing. You know, you‘re a boss chick. 749 00:38:01,859 --> 00:38:07,958 {\an7}\hSo let‘s start planning out what it is that you wanna do. 750 00:38:08,585 --> 00:38:10,387 {\an7}[Remy] Aisha was right \h\h\h\habout Shawana. 751 00:38:10,387 --> 00:38:14,519 {\an7}Shawana already proved she was \h\ha successful entrepreneur. 752 00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:18,859 {\an7}\h\h\h\hShe just needed to get on the right side of the law. 753 00:38:19,057 --> 00:38:20,024 {\an7}And the timing was right 754 00:38:20,024 --> 00:38:22,651 {\an7}because despite the lack \hof capital from banks 755 00:38:22,651 --> 00:38:26,717 {\an7}for all African-Americans, \h\h\hthere was good news. 756 00:38:26,717 --> 00:38:29,024 {\an7}Between 2007 and 2018, 757 00:38:29,024 --> 00:38:32,387 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hblack women were starting a businesses faster 758 00:38:32,387 --> 00:38:33,826 {\an7}than any other racial group. 759 00:38:33,826 --> 00:38:39,024 {\an7}In that time, black women \h\h\h\h\hfirms grew 164%. 760 00:38:39,024 --> 00:38:42,618 {\an7}There was black girl magic \h\hhappening everywhere, 761 00:38:42,618 --> 00:38:45,321 {\an7}and the possibilities \h\hgave Shawana life. 762 00:38:45,321 --> 00:38:48,651 {\an7}So when Shawana was finally \h\h\hreleased from prison, 763 00:38:48,651 --> 00:38:50,925 {\an7}she already had big plans. 764 00:38:50,925 --> 00:38:53,552 {\an7}I wanted to help the girls \hcoming home from prison. 765 00:38:53,552 --> 00:38:57,958 {\an7}And because I know how hard \hit was for me coming home. 766 00:38:57,958 --> 00:39:01,826 {\an7}\h\h[Remy] So she and Aisha teamed up to form a company 767 00:39:01,826 --> 00:39:02,826 {\an7}called Real Credit Pro. 768 00:39:02,826 --> 00:39:05,057 {\an7}What‘s up y‘all? It‘s your girl, Aisha Hall. 769 00:39:05,057 --> 00:39:07,387 {\an7}And it‘s your girl, Shawana. Oh, let me take off my shades. 770 00:39:07,387 --> 00:39:10,925 {\an7}So people get their credit up and get mad Hollywood. 771 00:39:10,925 --> 00:39:11,991 {\an7}Whatever, whatever, whatever. 772 00:39:11,991 --> 00:39:16,090 {\an7}\h\h\h\hSo we are actually able to help people fix their credit 773 00:39:16,090 --> 00:39:19,651 {\an7}and get access to a large \h\h\h\hlump sum of money 774 00:39:19,651 --> 00:39:20,519 {\an7}to start their business. 775 00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:24,420 {\an7}And it gives them a better shot at living a good life 776 00:39:24,420 --> 00:39:26,453 {\an7}and living a law abiding life. 777 00:39:26,453 --> 00:39:29,519 {\an7}[Remy] Trust me, with a felony \h\h\h\h\h\h\hon your record, 778 00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:32,783 {\an7}it can be damn near impossible \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto get a loan 779 00:39:32,783 --> 00:39:33,826 {\an7}for the rest of your life. 780 00:39:33,826 --> 00:39:38,958 {\an7}\h\hSo salutes to these ladies for reaching back to lift up. 781 00:39:39,486 --> 00:39:42,552 {\an7}\h\h\h\hJust to see her entering this entrepreneurship lifestyle 782 00:39:42,552 --> 00:39:45,486 {\an7}and just like thriving in it, \h\h\hit‘s like so refreshing 783 00:39:45,486 --> 00:39:49,222 {\an7}\h\hto see her tap back into her, her old self. 784 00:39:49,222 --> 00:39:51,958 {\an7}Shawana is still popular \hShawana is still fly. 785 00:39:51,958 --> 00:39:52,925 {\an7}Just the difference is now 786 00:39:52,925 --> 00:39:55,783 {\an7}is that she‘s doing it \h\h\h\hthe right way. 787 00:39:55,783 --> 00:39:57,750 {\an7}[Shawana] Maybe this was \h\h\h\h\h\hmy calling. 788 00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:59,783 {\an7}My calling was to help people 789 00:39:59,783 --> 00:40:01,387 {\an7}Had I not gone to prison, 790 00:40:01,387 --> 00:40:03,684 {\an7}it would just all be \habout me, me, me. 791 00:40:03,684 --> 00:40:05,826 {\an7}Now it‘s like I live my life 792 00:40:05,826 --> 00:40:11,189 {\an7}on helping other people be happy and be successful. 793 00:40:11,684 --> 00:40:13,024 {\an7}[Yakia] I always saw more \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin her, 794 00:40:13,024 --> 00:40:17,958 {\an7}\hbut I ain‘t never know if she, like, thought that for herself. 795 00:40:17,958 --> 00:40:20,519 {\an7}I‘m really proud of her. 796 00:40:21,123 --> 00:40:23,090 {\an7}[whispers] I‘m proud. 797 00:40:24,925 --> 00:40:27,783 {\an7}[Remy] But perhaps Shawana‘s \h\h\h\hbest accomplishment, 798 00:40:27,783 --> 00:40:32,090 {\an7}\his starting a family with her new fiancee. 799 00:40:32,090 --> 00:40:34,024 {\an7}[Shawana] I have a beautiful \h\h\h\h\h\h\htwo year old. 800 00:40:34,024 --> 00:40:36,024 {\an7}Her name is Zori, 801 00:40:36,024 --> 00:40:41,453 {\an7}and she is such an amazing soul. 802 00:40:45,090 --> 00:40:48,057 {\an7}\h\hSo now I know how to teach my daughter. 803 00:40:48,057 --> 00:40:50,859 {\an7}I‘m so happy because she came at the time 804 00:40:50,859 --> 00:40:52,189 {\an7}that I learned my lesson, 805 00:40:52,189 --> 00:40:54,519 {\an7}I would never put myself \h\h\h\h\hin a situation 806 00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:59,189 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hand take myself away from anyone in my family again. 807 00:40:59,189 --> 00:41:00,057 {\an7}Look at my twin, y‘all. 808 00:41:00,057 --> 00:41:02,618 {\an7}My twin, she squishes me, right? 809 00:41:02,618 --> 00:41:05,222 {\an7}[chuckles] No, she squishes me. 810 00:41:05,222 --> 00:41:06,717 {\an7}[laughs] 811 00:41:06,717 --> 00:41:08,189 {\an7}[Remy] So use Shawana‘s story \h\has a life lesson learned. 812 00:41:08,189 --> 00:41:13,222 {\an7}\h\hBe careful what you chase because in the blink of an eye 813 00:41:13,222 --> 00:41:14,991 {\an7}anyone can get caught up 814 00:41:14,991 --> 00:41:18,618 {\an7}and you don‘t want that, trust.