Jeff: Five people, three generations
Wiped out in one moment.
The entire family was shot.
Joanie harper had also been stabbed five times.
Whoever did this crime,
Whoever the killer was
Is still out there.
Michelle: Bakersfield was just in shock.
Jeff: Was this a burglary?
Was this a robbery gone bad?
Michelle: She had a passion for helping those
Who she felt were wrongly accused.
Jeff: And because she was an activist
There was a higher chance of somebody threatening
The lives of family members that lived there.
Avis: How could you do that to those children?
Donald: Whoever's responsible is as evil as it gets.
[theme music playing]
[phone ringing]
911 operator: 3rd street.
Jeff: On July 8th, 2003
I was assigned as a homicide detective
For the bakersfield police department.
When a call for service came in over the police radio.
[sirens wailing]
Jeff: Bakersfield police department
Had officer scott miller respond to that scene.
He met kelsey spann
Who had gone to the residence in order to determine
If something was wrong with their friends
And then called 911.
Donald: The officer made its way around the house
Into the backyard
And he had found a westside sliding door
Not completely closed.
Jeff: Officer miller quickly entered the residence
And determined that there were four victims.
He requested medical aid respond
And backup.
Michelle: I was at home
And I got a call from my friend, kelsey.
And very upset,
Couldn't understand her.
Yelling, screaming, crying.
Finally I was able to put together,
"you need to get here, you need to get to joey's."
I says, "I'm coming, I'll be there as soon as I can."
And I'm at a red light
And I look up the street
And all I could see was black and yellow tape
And red and blue lights.
And I immediately started to shake
Because I knew something was wrong.
Donald: We arrived about 20 minutes after
The original officers arrived.
I noticed that the house appeared to be fortified,
Bars on the windows,
To secure them from people coming inside the residence.
Jeff: The front door was secure.
There were no points of forced entry.
I first entered the residence through the sliding glass door.
I walked through a small hallway into a large bedroom.
And inside that bedroom
Were the bodies of the victims.
Donald: There was three victims on the bed.
Initially I saw the woman
And she had been shot in the head.
And I also saw about a two-year-old
Who was also on the bed had been shot as well.
[melancholic music playing]
Jeff: And then directly on the opposite side of the bed
Was a young, uh, child.
I could see that he has sustained
A gunshot wound to the right temple.
Jeff: So we had three bodies
On a large queen-size bed in the bedroom.
And the victims were deceased.
At that point we searched more of the house.
And saw another woman in the hallway.
And she was deceased.
Jeff: She had what appeared to me two gunshot wounds,
One above an eye and one below an eye.
And I also noticed a handgun next to her,
It was a revolver.
I thought to myself
Do I have a multiple murder suicide?
And I could see that the gun had live bullets.
The gun had not been fired.
I noticed that around the house
Were spent .22 bullet casings.
The gun that was at the scene
Was not the firearm that was used
To shoot these victims.
And the firearm that was used to shoot the victims
Was outstanding.
Michelle: A officer told me that there was four bodies
In the house.
But when he said four bodies
That was a red flag for me.
Because I knew that there was five people
That lived in that house at that time.
And I says, "well, it should be an older lady
Which was earnestine."
I said "it should be, um, a younger one,
In her late 30s, joanie harper."
And I said "there should be a four-year-old child,
Marques, and a two-year-old child,
Lyndsey, and a new born."
Jeff: We were still missing an infant.
A 45-day-old infant by the name of marshall harper.
We decided to do a room-to-room search
Looking for the infant because we could not find the infant
In the house,
Then perhaps he may have been kidnapped
Or outside of the residence
Injured and needing help.
Within five to seven minutes of starting our search
Looking for marshall
He was actually discovered on the bed
With the other three victims in the bedroom.
He was covered with pillows.
The baby had been shot one time in the back.
I just really had a hard time wrapping my mind around this.
Looking at it as being a father myself,
I just thought,
You know, who could harm a baby like this?
Donald: When I saw this,
All these children murdered,
Grandma, mom, dead,
Five people.
I had never seen anything like it.
Three generations being wiped out in one moment.
There's just no way that I think any of us
Can really fully understand that.
It was like nothing else I'd dealt with.
We were going to do everything humanly possible
To get to the bottom of this.
During my initial walkthrough of that residence
It looked like it'd been ransacked.
There's a purse in another room
That had been tipped upside down.
But it looked like nothing was missing from the purse.
I also saw that in the bedroom
Where the victims were,
There was cash that was in clear view.
Um, whoever killed these people it was not taken.
Donald: Credit cards, the tv,
And other things of value are left behind.
Not the behavior of a home invader,
Some stranger attack.
Jeff: Which really suggest
That whoever committed this crime
Staged the scene to make it look like
This was an attempt burglary.
There's a lot of thoughts I had in my mind.
It's a family of five people executed for some reason.
And I had to think
Is there a immediate threat to the community?
And is there a threat to anybody else
Related to this family?
Because if you're gonna take the time to kill
Five members of a family,
Was there any other close family members
That maybe in danger?
Donald: Earnestine had a history of community activism.
Jeff: So there was a higher chance
Of somebody threatening earnestine's life.
And the autopsies confirmed
That everybody was a victim of a homicide.
And the very personal nature
In which joanie harper was attacked,
That's a lot of hate.
Ars of friends and family members
Of the harper family have been confirmed.
The coroner has positively identified the five people
Shot to death this morning.
Donald: This particular case was a standout case
In terms of the violence,
The number of victims.
Never before we dealt with anything like this.
Before the end of the day
We had satellite trucks all over the place.
The whole world was interested in this thing.
Woman: This horrendous, horrible thing that happened.
There's a plan and a purpose that you have too, father god.
-Woman: Oh, yes lord. -Let that be known.
Michelle: Bakersfield as a city was just in shock.
There's crime in every city.
But this was one
That just turned bakersfield upside down.
Man: It is truly, truly traumatic
To lose someone as valuable as that.
Michelle: Joanie and earnestine were both so popular,
And well-known, and respected in the community.
Earnestine she was involved in a lot of civil rights stuff.
Michelle: She had a passion for helping those
Who she felt were wrongly accused.
So she was strong into injustices
And trying to right the wrongs of the community.
Matthew: Joanie was in the 10th grade
When I met her.
Joanie at that time was one of the better
Basketball players here in town.
I went to see several of her games.
Her aspiration was to be
An nba basketball official.
Michelle: She joined the pac-10
And did it for a couple of years
Before she had marques.
She was marrying the father of her child,
His name was vincent.
Avis: Vincent was the vice principal at fremont.
Michelle: Vincent was very popular in the community,
Well-liked, well-respected.
When she had her baby, she had a husband
And it was a happy time for her.
Marques, he was the oldest, he was four.
He had already had a love for basketball.
Just a sweet little boy.
Lyndsey she was two at the time.
She loved to hug and cuddle
Like she would just crawl up in your lap,
Just precious.
And then marshall, unfortunately,
At six weeks, we didn't get to know marshall.
Um...
Joanie definitely tried to live
According to how god calls us to live.
Forgiving, very gentle spirit she had.
Avis: Her and earnestine were very strong in their faith,
She did not miss not one service,
Not one bible class.
That was number one.
Donald: My first responsibility was to contact kelsey spann,
The person who discovered the victims
In the house that morning.
And I took her to the police station and interviewed her.
Jeff: Kelsey had last seen the entire family,
All five victims,
Sunday, July 6th, 2003
At a restaurant in bakersfield.
Prior to that the entire family had gone to attend church.
Jeff: Uh-huh.
Donald: It was a practice to go to church
In the middle of the day, and then go home,
Rest up and return to church later in the day.
Jeff: Kelsey had told me that she thought something was odd
Because the family did not show back up for church
Later that afternoon.
And this timeline make sense
Because when we found earnestine in the hallway
She's still wearing part of her Sunday outfit.
Also at that point we were getting things back
From the coroner's office.
The autopsies confirmed the food content
In the victim's digestive tract.
That was consistent with food that was eaten
At the black angus restaurant
On Sunday, July 6th, 2003.
So, the murders occurred
Somewhere after 1:00 p.M. The afternoon
Because the food they ate is still in their system.
So whoever did this crime
Might have had firsthand knowledge
Of the family member's whereabouts on Sunday.
Donald: During my discussion with kelsey sann,
I asked who was close to the family.
She said that joanie was married to vincent brothers.
She also said that he had taken a trip to ohio
To see his brother and then drove to see his mother,
Who was back east as well
In elizabeth city, north carolina.
Before the end of this first day,
We received a phone call
From elizabeth city, north carolina police department
Telling us that vincent brothers,
And his mother, and sister, and his brother melvin
Were at the police department there
Because he heard about what happened to his family.
And they waited there several hours
Until jeff watts and I were able to fly there
And contact him.
Jeff: My plan was to ask him,
Do you know who'd wanna do this?
Do you have any ideas?
When was the last time
You spoke with your wife, joanie?
Jeff: When I started to speak with him,
He started to scream.
I said, "I know you're upset, I recognize that
But understand that we are trying to find out
What happened.
We're trying to get an understanding
Of potential timelines."
He still kept on screaming.
Jeff: I was, kind of, concerned
And then I thought is he just so distraught,
He's out of his mind here.
But it looked like he was gonna vomit.
Donald: And there really wasn't much
That he was capable of telling us at that point,
So the interview was concluded.
And vincent brothers was released.
But until we could check his alibi,
Vincent was now a subject of interest in this investigation.
Jeff: After the interview,
We get a phone call from the other detectives.
They had determined
That vincent brothers' cell phone
Was pinging in columbus, ohio
During the time of the murders.
Also his credit cards were used in columbus
On Sunday, July 6th, 2003.
Now, that in our opinion
Was the date of the murders.
So it looked like vincent was across the country
When the murders happened giving him an alibi.
So whoever did this crime,
Who--whoever the killer was is still out there.
Reporter: A family torn by five senseless murders
Reaches deeply into its faith for comfort.
Preacher: Because we don't understand
Does not make what god does wrong.
Vincent came back into town,
So grief-stricken over their deaths.
Avis: His family was there.
He--he cried. He broke down.
Matthew: It was such a large funeral
There had to be about 3,000 people there.
Michelle: I remember someone saying,
"I didn't even know the family
But I just felt, like, I needed to be there."
-Uh-hmm. -And here we are,
We knew them and loved them,
And struggled being there.
It was just hard.
Jeff: Seven days in this investigation,
We decided to slow down
And really just look at everybody around the harpers.
Earnestine had a history of community activism
And family members referred to her as paranoid
As a result of this activity
And she got an antique revolver.
Jeff: Earnestine had been involved in protecting people
That may have been slighted or wronged within the community.
And because she was an activist,
There was a higher chance of somebody
Threatening earnestine's life
Or threatening the lives of family members
That lived there.
So we looked to see if earnestine or joanie
Had ever filed a police report
For any threats against them.
Donald: We also looked into the area itself
Around the crime scene, the neighborhood,
For any possible suspects.
Jeff: Our computer searches of people in the neighborhood
That might be parolees with violent past,
Gangs, sexual offenders.
Nothing came back as a match.
And we also found out,
They never filed a police report
For any threats against them.
Since we can also eliminate attempted burglary
Or burglary in progress
Because nothing was missing from the residence.
So it seemed whoever committed this crime
Had to have a specific reason to kill those people.
The autopsies confirmed
That everybody was a victim of a homicide.
Everybody also was shot.
The three children each had one bullet wounding them.
Earnestine harper had two bullet wounds in the head.
Joanie harper had five bullet wounds in her.
She had also been stabbed five times
In the area of the back.
Donald: And the very personal nature
In which joanie harper was attacked,
That's a lot of hate.
That's personal.
Which we thought had made joanie harper the main target.
We did speak with kelsey spann,
A good friend of joanie harper's numerous times.
And on one occasion,
She talked about the relationship
Between joanie and vincent brothers.
Jeff: Joanie was married to vincent brothers
But they were separated during the time of the murders.
Jeff: Uh-huh.
Donald: She said that there was some bad blood so to speak
Going on between those two
Leading up to this event.
Michelle: Joanie was struggling with
Keeping her family together
And trying to reconcile her faith
With the struggles that they have within their relationship.
Jeff: At the time in my career
I was also a domestic violence expert.
I was well aware of the fact
That it is not uncommon
For one spouse to murder the other.
But I was trying to figure a motive.
Why would he kill his entire family?
I mean, why would he do that?
So until we had more evidence,
I decided we cannot rule vincent out as a suspect.
Even though, his credit card was in columbus.
We knew his cell phone was in columbus but was he?
Donald: And we started looking into vincent brothers'
Credit card being used in columbus, ohio.
If he really did use those credit cards at the stores
Then there should be video surveillance showing
Vincent brothers using those cards
At that time on that date.
If we find that, that completely eliminates
Vincent brothers.
Donald: As we looked into this,
Jeff and I returned to columbus
To get the surveillance tapes
From where vincent brothers' credit card was used.
We picked up the surveillance tapes
And then interviewed vincent brothers' brother,
Melvin brothers.
Jeff: Since I was not able to get a statement
From vincent brothers,
I still need to build this timeline,
So I try to get some information
As to when vincent arrived in columbus, ohio.
And we made a determination it was, uh, Wednesday, July 2nd.
We asked him about the credit card usage,
If he knew what vincent was doing.
Melvin brothers denied
Knowing about the credit cards being used.
Donald: The more we talk to melvin,
The more he changed his story.
Jeff: I remember telling melvin, "we have a videotape.
And if you're lying to me,
You could be an accessory to murder."
And I told him to think about it.
[dramatic music playing]
Jeff: After hours of viewing those tapes,
We found that on July 6th,
The day of the murders.
Lo and behold it was not vincent brothers
On those videotapes.
It was another person,
And that other person turned out to be...
Melvin brothers.
Donald: During the course of the investigation,
We were looking at the financials
Of vincent brothers.
There were transactions
With vincent brothers' credit card
During the weekend of the murders.
Jeff: So we looked at the video surveillance tapes
From the stores.
And it was not vincent brothers on those videotapes.
It was melvin brothers.
So we interviewed melvin again.
Initially, melvin brothers denied
Knowing about the credit cards
Being used on July 6th, 2003.
And I told melvin that,
"we looked at the video surveillance tapes,
So if you're lying to me,
You could be an accessory to murder."
So this time melvin says,
"yes, I used...
Vincent's credit cards."
Melvin told us that his brother said,
"I want you to buy certain items,
They have to be bought on Sunday, July 6th,
And you sign my name, vincent brothers."
Now, I had melvin brothers to give me a timeline.
So I asked him,
"when did vincent arrive in columbus?"
He said, "vincent arrived, July 2nd, Wednesday.
This is a planned trip."
Vincent is gonna stay at melvin brothers house
For seven to ten days.
We asked melvin, if he had seen vincent from Friday morning,
4th of July
Through July 8th, 2003.
Donald: He admitted that he didn't in fact see
Vincent brothers at the house
During these critical periods of time.
And melvin brothers was released
And was not charged with a crime.
But there was increasing evidence
That the credit card activity was being used
By vincent brothers as part of his alibi effort.
Jeff: Now, we had enough probable cause
To place vincent brothers under surveillance.
And he's constantly trying to evade our surveillance.
We're doing our title iii wiretaps.
And the whole time we were building this timeline
Of vincent brothers.
Vincent arrived in columbus, ohio on July 2nd
And then we know vincent was in north carolina
On July 8th
When he had showed up at the police department,
Which led us to start thinking,
Could vincent brothers leave columbus, ohio
On July 3rd,
Somehow go back to the city of bakersfield,
Commit murders,
And then arrive in north carolina,
July 8th.
If he was to fly, we'd be able to query databases
On records for the airplane passengers.
Donald: We determined that on July 2nd,
He had taken a flight out of lax back east to columbus, ohio.
Jeff: And we showed no round-trip ticket for him
To return flight to bakersfield.
So if he was gonna drive then we knew that
That was going to be a huge feat.
Donald: And as we looked into this,
We discovered that vincent brothers
Had rented a blue dodge neon
At the columbus, ohio airport on July 2nd.
Jeff: That rental car was still in service,
We knew where it was,
So we decided to take a look at it.
Donald: When vincent brothers rented the car,
We have the mileage on record when he started the rental
And the mileage when he turned it in
To the rental car agency on July 11th.
So we determined that the mileage isolated
To the activity with vincent brothers
Was just over 5,400 miles.
Jeff: That was a big moment in this investigation
Because when we did a simple query indicated that
The drive from columbus to bakersfield
And then back coupled with the mileage
From the drive from columbus to elizabeth city
To visit their mother and returned the rental car.
Total up about 5,400 plus miles.
So now we're thinking, okay, we got mileage on this car.
This is a big deal.
But I did not know how it was gonna prove
That vincent brothers drove that rental car
Across the country and back
During the time of the murders.
And our question still was...
Why would you kill your entire family?
I really could not come up with an answer.
But I knew we needed to link vincent brothers
And the vehicle.
So, in thinking outside of the box
In this investigation, we came up with the idea that
If you're gonna drive from one end of the country
To the other end of the country,
You're most likely gonna have a bunch of bugs
Splattered on your windshield.
Donald: Many insects are indigenous
To certain regions and that may be an indicator
Of where this vehicle was
When it was rented by vincent brothers.
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Donald: We worked with the fbi to recover
Parts of this vehicle to analyze the bug evidence.
Jeff: We learned vincent was quite the lady's man.
Many of those relationships were occurring months
Before the murders.
He just had a baby with joanie 45 days prior
But you're having affairs with these other women.
Donald: Weeks into the investigation,
We determined that vincent brothers
Had rented a blue dodge neon
And we had the mileage on record
That totaled just over 5,400 miles.
Jeff: And the drive from columbus to bakersfield
And then back coupled with the mileage
From the drive from columbus to elizabeth city
Also totaled up about 5,400 plus miles.
But I knew we needed to link vincent brothers
And the vehicle.
Donald: The car was very new
Prior to being rented by vincent brothers.
A couple others rented the car before him
And we interviewed all these people
Leading up to the time
When vincent brothers rented the car
About where they traveled.
All these people remained no further west
Than michigan.
We worked with the fbi to recover
Parts of this vehicle,
Radiator and air intakes.
[dramatic music playing]
Jeff: I contacted dr. Lynn kimsey,
Chief entomologist at uc davis.
Our question was if we send you this radiator,
Can you please see if there's any bug parts on there
That you can identify.
And could you tell us where those bugs
May primarily be located?
Dr. Lynn: We do a lot of odd things in here,
Working with the public and law enforcement
In some cases, but this had to be the oddest.
We didn't know if we'd be able to do this or not.
So, we started one corner of the radiator.
We found fragments of bugs and lacewings
And the kinds of things that would fly at night,
Which suggested that a lot of the driving
Was done at night.
Then the other things we found were insects
Where just looking at the fragments,
We had a pretty good idea that they were only found
In the southwestern us.
Jeff: That was another big moment
In this investigation.
Dr. Kimsey was able to identify three bugs.
Those three bugs are only indigenous
To areas west of the rocky mountains.
So now we knew that rental car was in bakersfield
Or at least the greater southern california area
In a timeframe that's contemporaneous
With the murders and a timeframe
That vincent brothers could not account for
Nor could he alibi himself for.
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Jeff: But we still need to build this case up a lot
More than what we had.
And figure out a motive,
Why did a father kill his three children,
His wife, his mother-in-law?
So, we needed evidence to support
That vincent brothers was in the house
During the time of the murders
On July 6th, 2003.
So, we reached out to the community
And said we need your help to solve this crime.
[dramatic music playing]
Donald: The community where this crime occurred
Is what we call the east side
And it's a lower income area and there's a lot of crime
And somewhat of a distrust of law enforcement.
So, residents in the area become conditioned
To avoid talking to law enforcement.
Jeff: But I think the impact of this case
For the neighborhood as a couple weeks went by
Allowed the community members to step up and tell us,
When's the last time you saw him?
Donald: One person, uh, worked at a rite aid
And she said in the early evening of July 4th
She saw brothers at her store
And actually interacted with him.
And then later that evening around midnight,
Two other men who have known vincent brothers for many years
Saw him in front of the house, the crime scene,
Pacing around looking nervously
For about 20 minutes.
Jeff: Now, we had a lot of evidence
Against vincent brothers,
But I was trying to figure a motive,
Why would he kill his entire family?
We started to really dig into vincent brothers' life,
His history, his education.
We were literally interviewing hundreds of people.
Donald: Vincent brothers was well known in the community,
He was a vice principal of a school,
Actively involved with school activities
And the community itself.
You might say he was a stellar citizen.
Jeff: Through further investigation,
We learned vincent was quite the ladies' man.
All of the girlfriends, ex-girlfriends,
Women that he had relationships with
Were interviewed.
Many of those relationships were concurrent
And they were occurring months before the murders.
They gave the impression that they really continue
After the murders.
Not of 'em really knew that the other women existed.
He just had a baby with joanie 45 days prior
But you're having affairs with these other women.
In talking with peers that he worked with,
He wasn't the nice person that he tried to present.
And there were individuals we talked with,
They were afraid of vincent brothers
Or he had made threats to them.
Donald: There is some prior evidence
Of domestic violence involving vincent brothers
In these prior relationships.
Jeff: Vincent brothers was not the individual
That he attempted to paint himself as.
All of those appearances
Started getting wiped away.
Donald: I came across an incident involving
A prior relationship with a woman 10 years
Before the killings, who was the mother
Of one of vincent brothers' children.
In a court hearing, vincent brothers says,
"I need my child support payments
To this woman reduced
Because I've got another child."
And the judge substantially increased
Vincent brothers' child support payments.
It illustrated to me a desire to reduce his burden,
His cost, because he led a freewheeling lifestyle
With a number of different women and it lead me to believe
That this may very well be the basis
Or motive for the killings.
He's got three young children he's gonna have to pay for.
What better way in his twisted mind
Than to murder everyone and avoid that expense.
Jeff: In late April of 2004,
I felt that we had enough compelling evidence
To convince a jury that vincent brothers
Was guilty of being a mass murderer.
It was based upon that car that vincent rented.
We have witnesses.
The false alibi, his credit cards,
Vincent brothers' affairs with other women.
Donald: And vincent brothers illustrated a desire
To reduce his burden, his child support payments,
So he murdered everyone to avoid that expense.
Jeff: We all agreed that we did have enough evidence
To support warrants for arrest.
Reporter: Vincent brothers faces five charges
Of first degree murder and a special charge
Because of the multiple deaths.
Jeff: He was subsequently booked at the kern county jail
For five counts of murder one
And that's where he sat in jail until trial
Which began in January of 2007.
[dramatic music playing]
I was present every day of that trial.
And the prosecution began making their case
And they told the jury,
The sequence of events for vincent
On July 6th, 2003, the day of the murders.
Donald: So, after church on Sunday,
July 6th,
Earnestine harper and joanie and the kids
Went out to have lunch.
And then came back home and took their naps.
Jeff: And that's when vincent made entry to the residence
Through the sliding glass door.
Donald: And then vincent brothers
Had made his way down the hallway
Into the bedroom.
Jeff: Where joanie and her three children
Were sleeping.
And joanie is shot and killed immediately
And shot five times.
And then vincent brothers shot and killed
Lyndsey and marshall.
Donald: There's a lot of noise, gunfire, screaming,
And that prompted earnestine down the hall
From her bedroom to emerge.
She's probably yelling out announcing her approach
With her antique revolver.
That gives vincent brothers time
To move down the hallway
And shoot her twice.
And then venture back to the bedroom
Where marques was--
He was the final victim.
Jeff: So, four-year-old marques was sitting there in bed
Awake witnessing these other people being killed.
And he is so terrified,
So scared that he bit
Through his own finger into the bone.
Donald: And then vincent brothers
Shot marques at close range.
And this guy is as evil as it gets.
Avis: When you get the details of how it was done,
It-it just--it just takes a lot out of you.
I mean it just drained me.
Michelle: It was very shocking and very hard to accept.
[dramatic music playing]
Jeff: After four months of trial,
This case was given to the jury
And deliberation lasted three days.
Donald: Keep in mind this was the biggest investigation
I'd ever dealt with.
I was on pins and needles.
Woman: First count,
We the jury and panel tried the above-entitled cause
Find the defendant, vincent edward brothers
Guilty of felony to wit murder of earnestine harper
And do hereby fix the degree as murder in the first degree.
Second account, guilty of felony
To wit murder of joanie harper
And do hereby fix the degree as murder in the first degree--
Jeff: Marques harper,
Murder in the first degree, guilty.
Lyndsey harper,
Murder in the first degree, guilty.
Marshall harper,
Murder in the first degree, guilty.
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Michelle: The emotional rollercoaster was over.
But it was still hard to grasp that concept
Of a father killing his wife
And three children.
Jeff: I felt a huge obligation
To make sure that this case was put together properly
And fortunately we did the right job.
So, I'm happy that, uh, it worked out
The way it did.
For the harper family, you know, I was grateful
That, uh, you know, they were able to find some,
You know, closure in this nightmare.
It is a nightmare.
Matthew: What would they have been?
What if joanie had become an nba basketball official?
Who knows what those children could have become.
What would have happened had this not happened?
Michelle: I've lost joanie and earnestine.
I've lost my niece, my nephews.
We were creating memories
And we will always have those memories with us.
But nothing's gonna bring them back.