1 00:00:13,346 --> 00:00:15,647 Rusty: When I opened the door, 2 00:00:15,649 --> 00:00:18,683 It was like, "oh, my god, this is just unbelievable." 3 00:00:18,685 --> 00:00:21,453 The family had been beaten seriously, 4 00:00:21,455 --> 00:00:22,989 And even stabbed. 5 00:00:22,991 --> 00:00:26,024 Joe: Was this a stranger just roaming in the area 6 00:00:26,026 --> 00:00:28,695 Or was it connected to the family? 7 00:00:28,697 --> 00:00:30,662 The sole person to get 8 00:00:30,664 --> 00:00:33,131 Anything from mr. Kenney's estate 9 00:00:33,133 --> 00:00:36,001 Would've been his son. 10 00:00:36,003 --> 00:00:39,137 We found a nurse who worked for the victims. 11 00:00:39,139 --> 00:00:42,307 He had been abusive to mrs. Kenney. 12 00:00:42,309 --> 00:00:44,410 Rusty: He did have the violent tendency. 13 00:00:44,412 --> 00:00:47,312 He could've committed this act. 14 00:00:47,314 --> 00:00:48,681 Joe: We found out 15 00:00:48,683 --> 00:00:50,983 That adrienne had a former boyfriend. 16 00:00:50,985 --> 00:00:53,985 Rusty: Adrienne's friends, when asked directly 17 00:00:53,987 --> 00:00:56,488 Was he capable of doing the murder, 18 00:00:56,490 --> 00:00:59,759 Every one of them answered, "yes, definitely." 19 00:00:59,761 --> 00:01:01,827 Joe: And we were notified by the lab 20 00:01:01,829 --> 00:01:04,029 That they had lifted a print off the club 21 00:01:04,031 --> 00:01:06,965 That had been used to kill the family. 22 00:01:06,967 --> 00:01:09,367 Rusty: If this was our suspect's fingerprint, 23 00:01:09,369 --> 00:01:12,771 He was the person that brutally beat 24 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:14,140 These people to death. 25 00:01:16,010 --> 00:01:19,211 [sinister music playing] 26 00:01:29,991 --> 00:01:33,058 Joe: Kerrville is a town about 60 miles 27 00:01:33,060 --> 00:01:36,929 West of san antonio in the texas hill country. 28 00:01:36,931 --> 00:01:38,997 Rusty: Kerrville's very friendly, 29 00:01:38,999 --> 00:01:41,267 He knew most everybody in town. 30 00:01:41,269 --> 00:01:43,935 Margaret: It's a very small-town personality 31 00:01:43,937 --> 00:01:46,539 And so we have a lot of retirees 32 00:01:46,541 --> 00:01:49,074 Who settle there to enjoy the weather 33 00:01:49,076 --> 00:01:51,277 And get away from crime. 34 00:01:51,279 --> 00:01:54,546 Joe: The crime in kerrville is very, very low. 35 00:01:54,548 --> 00:01:57,816 We have minor things like burglaries, 36 00:01:57,818 --> 00:01:59,217 Might have one a year, 37 00:01:59,219 --> 00:02:00,886 It's that safe. 38 00:02:00,888 --> 00:02:03,555 [sober music playing] 39 00:02:03,557 --> 00:02:06,091 [phone ringing] 40 00:02:06,093 --> 00:02:07,826 Man: 911, what is your emergency? 41 00:02:07,828 --> 00:02:09,228 Man: My neighbor's maid came over 42 00:02:09,230 --> 00:02:10,762 And said there are neighbors 43 00:02:10,764 --> 00:02:12,764 Laying in the front hall like they're dead. 44 00:02:12,766 --> 00:02:14,167 Man: And how many people are down? 45 00:02:14,169 --> 00:02:16,201 Man: Three, one is about eighty-four. 46 00:02:16,203 --> 00:02:17,602 A lady about seventy, 47 00:02:17,604 --> 00:02:19,839 And, uh, young woman about fifty. 48 00:02:19,841 --> 00:02:23,075 [suspense music playing] 49 00:02:25,946 --> 00:02:28,314 Joe: On March 30th, 1992, 50 00:02:28,316 --> 00:02:30,782 A call came in to the sheriff's office 51 00:02:30,784 --> 00:02:33,785 That three people had been found in their residence 52 00:02:33,787 --> 00:02:37,890 And it appeared to be three murders. 53 00:02:37,892 --> 00:02:40,159 Rusty: We had officers dispatched, 54 00:02:40,161 --> 00:02:41,626 Heard the call 55 00:02:41,628 --> 00:02:43,529 So another officer and I went out there. 56 00:02:47,268 --> 00:02:50,869 When we got there, we talked to margaret duran, 57 00:02:50,871 --> 00:02:53,038 The maid that found the victims. 58 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,108 Joe: Mrs. Duran worked for the, uh, family 59 00:02:56,110 --> 00:02:59,611 And she told us she had a master key into the house 60 00:02:59,613 --> 00:03:01,948 And was able to open the front door 61 00:03:01,950 --> 00:03:04,583 And immediately when she did... 62 00:03:04,585 --> 00:03:06,818 She saw the bodies. 63 00:03:08,256 --> 00:03:12,023 Rusty: After we talked to margaret duran, 64 00:03:12,025 --> 00:03:14,559 We started to do a walk-through of the crime scene. 65 00:03:14,561 --> 00:03:17,762 [suspense music playing] 66 00:03:17,764 --> 00:03:19,865 Rusty: When I opened the door, it was like, 67 00:03:19,867 --> 00:03:22,268 "oh, my god, this is just unbelievable." 68 00:03:25,305 --> 00:03:27,472 There's blood splatter all over 69 00:03:27,474 --> 00:03:30,508 Everywhere in that foyer. 70 00:03:30,510 --> 00:03:34,113 It was an elderly male laying on the floor 71 00:03:34,115 --> 00:03:37,850 And it was a middle-aged female also laying on the floor, 72 00:03:37,852 --> 00:03:39,785 Both covered in blood, 73 00:03:39,787 --> 00:03:42,187 It was obviously they have been beaten 74 00:03:42,189 --> 00:03:44,590 Seriously and possibly even stabbed. 75 00:03:46,193 --> 00:03:49,094 It was by far one of the most gruesome 76 00:03:49,096 --> 00:03:51,730 Things that I had seen. 77 00:03:51,732 --> 00:03:53,398 Joe: We noticed a knife 78 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,968 That was laying on a small table in the foyer, 79 00:03:56,970 --> 00:04:00,205 Appeared to have blood on it. 80 00:04:00,207 --> 00:04:02,808 We then walked into the living room area, 81 00:04:02,810 --> 00:04:05,544 And I saw a deceased older woman 82 00:04:05,546 --> 00:04:07,646 Sitting in a chair. 83 00:04:07,648 --> 00:04:11,416 She had a tray on her lap and was eating a meal there. 84 00:04:11,418 --> 00:04:13,953 She had a bowl of beans on the dinner tray. 85 00:04:13,955 --> 00:04:16,689 She had a spoon still in her hand 86 00:04:16,691 --> 00:04:21,159 And she was just sitting there and her throat had been cut 87 00:04:21,161 --> 00:04:23,161 And her head bashed in 88 00:04:23,163 --> 00:04:25,598 All the way down to the bridge of her nose. 89 00:04:27,234 --> 00:04:29,668 So, we've had an elderly man, 90 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:31,304 A middle-aged female, 91 00:04:31,306 --> 00:04:32,838 And then an elderly female 92 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:35,141 Were the three victims. 93 00:04:36,843 --> 00:04:38,711 Joe: Going through the dining room, 94 00:04:38,713 --> 00:04:41,380 It appeared that two people had been sitting 95 00:04:41,382 --> 00:04:43,783 At the dining room table. 96 00:04:43,785 --> 00:04:45,717 Rusty: Walking around through the rest of the house, 97 00:04:45,719 --> 00:04:47,520 There's a large purse in the kitchen 98 00:04:47,522 --> 00:04:49,187 That had been dumped out 99 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:52,257 And he had paperwork scattered all over the floor, 100 00:04:52,259 --> 00:04:53,592 He had a drawer open 101 00:04:53,594 --> 00:04:55,727 Where some knives were moved around 102 00:04:55,729 --> 00:04:57,663 And we thought pretty sure the knife in the foyer 103 00:04:57,665 --> 00:04:59,197 That was sitting on the table, 104 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:02,067 The bloody knife, probably came from there. 105 00:05:02,069 --> 00:05:04,136 It was very odd that we did find 106 00:05:04,138 --> 00:05:05,805 On the initial walkthrough 107 00:05:05,807 --> 00:05:09,774 A lot of cedar barks laying around on the floor 108 00:05:09,776 --> 00:05:15,080 And then we also found blood tracks on the carpet, 109 00:05:15,082 --> 00:05:18,049 The shoe tracks went out the back of the house. 110 00:05:19,921 --> 00:05:22,954 Joe: Going back further towards the driveway, 111 00:05:22,956 --> 00:05:25,290 Some car tracks was found. 112 00:05:25,292 --> 00:05:27,292 Rusty: So we thought, "well, maybe that's where 113 00:05:27,294 --> 00:05:29,794 The suspect turned in and parked." 114 00:05:29,796 --> 00:05:33,331 Joe: Near the car tracks was a couple of gloves, 115 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:35,634 One of the gloves appeared to have blood on it. 116 00:05:36,938 --> 00:05:39,437 We also found a silver spoon 117 00:05:39,439 --> 00:05:41,740 That was laying on the ground. 118 00:05:41,742 --> 00:05:43,375 Rusty: Wasn't sure where that came from, 119 00:05:43,377 --> 00:05:45,878 We didn't know about anything being stolen. 120 00:05:47,715 --> 00:05:50,082 And just a little bit farther, I could see 121 00:05:50,084 --> 00:05:54,619 What I'd describe now as a cedar club. 122 00:05:54,621 --> 00:05:58,356 It was a cedar stick, about two inches in diameter 123 00:05:58,358 --> 00:06:00,191 And about three feet long. 124 00:06:00,193 --> 00:06:04,129 Appeared to have some blood and hair on it. 125 00:06:04,131 --> 00:06:06,331 Rusty: So we felt that very well may have been 126 00:06:06,333 --> 00:06:08,267 What was used in beating 127 00:06:08,269 --> 00:06:11,103 The, uh, deceased people with. 128 00:06:12,305 --> 00:06:14,005 Joe: As the, uh, suspect 129 00:06:14,007 --> 00:06:16,375 Or suspects, were coming up to the house, 130 00:06:16,377 --> 00:06:19,010 They probably picked up that piece of cedar 131 00:06:19,012 --> 00:06:23,481 Out of the firewood pile that was next to the house. 132 00:06:23,483 --> 00:06:25,918 Rusty: Cedar is a really unique wood up here. 133 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,119 It's got kind of a stringy bark 134 00:06:28,121 --> 00:06:30,889 And that's what we were seeing in the living room, 135 00:06:30,891 --> 00:06:33,825 In the foyer, was this bark coming off this club, 136 00:06:33,827 --> 00:06:36,227 And when bark comes off cedars like that, 137 00:06:36,229 --> 00:06:38,963 It leaves a real slick wood underneath. 138 00:06:38,965 --> 00:06:42,467 So, I was hoping maybe we had a fingerprint on it. 139 00:06:45,139 --> 00:06:47,839 Joe: Mrs. Duran, the, uh, maid 140 00:06:47,841 --> 00:06:50,509 Who worked for the, uh, victims told us 141 00:06:50,511 --> 00:06:52,611 That the older gentleman in the foyer 142 00:06:52,613 --> 00:06:56,914 Who was clayton kenney, 83 years of age, 143 00:06:56,916 --> 00:06:59,818 His wife, uh, the older woman that was in the chair 144 00:06:59,820 --> 00:07:05,524 Was juliana kenney, she was 75. 145 00:07:05,526 --> 00:07:06,992 And adrienne arnot, 146 00:07:06,994 --> 00:07:10,328 The woman that was in the foyer, was 44 147 00:07:10,330 --> 00:07:13,632 And she was, uh, mrs. Kenney's only daughter. 148 00:07:16,836 --> 00:07:20,372 Ron: Mr. Kenney was a retired businessman. 149 00:07:20,374 --> 00:07:24,176 Julian, his wife, was a retired school teacher, 150 00:07:25,212 --> 00:07:28,347 And adrienne arnot had semi-retired 151 00:07:28,349 --> 00:07:31,850 From being a real estate agent in houston. 152 00:07:31,852 --> 00:07:34,219 Joe: Mr. And mrs. Kenney had lived a good life 153 00:07:34,221 --> 00:07:38,123 And moved to kerrville to enjoy their retirement years. 154 00:07:38,125 --> 00:07:41,159 Rusty: Mrs. Kenney had a stroke back in the '80s 155 00:07:41,161 --> 00:07:44,629 And was paralyzed on the--on the left side 156 00:07:44,631 --> 00:07:48,433 And we found she was in and out of the nursing homes. 157 00:07:48,435 --> 00:07:50,201 Considering clayton's age, 158 00:07:50,203 --> 00:07:52,003 It was difficult for him 159 00:07:52,005 --> 00:07:55,073 To care for juliana. 160 00:07:55,075 --> 00:07:58,309 Joe: Mrs. Kenney's daughter, adrienne arnot, 161 00:07:58,311 --> 00:08:00,712 Actually moved from houston to kerrville 162 00:08:00,714 --> 00:08:03,915 To help take care of her mother. 163 00:08:03,917 --> 00:08:06,484 Margaret: Before she came to kerrville, 164 00:08:06,486 --> 00:08:09,688 Adrienne had a career 165 00:08:09,690 --> 00:08:11,789 And she gave it all up 166 00:08:11,791 --> 00:08:14,292 So that she could come take care of her mother. 167 00:08:16,196 --> 00:08:17,929 Rusty: Margaret duran told us 168 00:08:17,931 --> 00:08:19,732 How nice and sweet you might say 169 00:08:19,734 --> 00:08:21,700 That the couple was. 170 00:08:21,702 --> 00:08:24,068 They kept to themselves. 171 00:08:24,070 --> 00:08:26,070 Adrienne was a little more outspoken 172 00:08:26,072 --> 00:08:28,072 And she might tell you what's on her mind 173 00:08:28,074 --> 00:08:32,143 But mom and daddy were just very good people. 174 00:08:32,145 --> 00:08:34,746 Ron: They were members of the episcopal church 175 00:08:34,748 --> 00:08:36,114 Here in kerrville 176 00:08:36,116 --> 00:08:39,150 And were well respected by everybody. 177 00:08:42,489 --> 00:08:44,590 [sinister music playing] 178 00:08:44,592 --> 00:08:47,692 Rusty: Once we got the scene secured, 179 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:49,961 We took the maid, margaret duran, 180 00:08:49,963 --> 00:08:52,131 Back in the house to see if she could help us 181 00:08:52,133 --> 00:08:55,567 Identify if anything was missing. 182 00:08:55,569 --> 00:08:57,235 She was able to tell us 183 00:08:57,237 --> 00:08:59,637 That mrs. Kenney had some spoon collections, 184 00:08:59,639 --> 00:09:01,773 Those were missing 185 00:09:01,775 --> 00:09:04,076 And supposedly the collections were 186 00:09:04,078 --> 00:09:06,077 Worth quite a bit of money. 187 00:09:06,079 --> 00:09:08,447 Joe: One of the silver spoons apparently 188 00:09:08,449 --> 00:09:10,983 Was one of the spoons dropped outside 189 00:09:10,985 --> 00:09:14,053 Near where the car tracks were found. 190 00:09:14,055 --> 00:09:16,055 Rusty: And then she also pointed out 191 00:09:16,057 --> 00:09:18,723 Some other small trinkets missing. 192 00:09:18,725 --> 00:09:22,827 There was a brass horse and a brass egg. 193 00:09:22,829 --> 00:09:25,196 Margaret also was able to tell us 194 00:09:25,198 --> 00:09:27,866 That the knife we saw in the foyer area 195 00:09:27,868 --> 00:09:30,135 Was missing out of the kitchen. 196 00:09:31,004 --> 00:09:32,470 Margaret told us 197 00:09:32,472 --> 00:09:35,073 That the purse that was in the kitchen area 198 00:09:35,075 --> 00:09:37,709 Belonged to adrienne, the daughter, 199 00:09:37,711 --> 00:09:41,680 And then we have a wallet missing from mr. Kenney. 200 00:09:43,784 --> 00:09:45,817 So what is the motive? 201 00:09:45,819 --> 00:09:47,552 If it was just robbery, 202 00:09:47,554 --> 00:09:51,490 Why do you kill elderly people that viciously 203 00:09:51,492 --> 00:09:55,694 Just to take some silver spoons and trinkets? 204 00:09:56,863 --> 00:09:58,296 Was it just rage? 205 00:09:58,298 --> 00:10:01,199 Were these people killed just to kill them? 206 00:10:01,201 --> 00:10:04,436 What really struck us is the cedar club 207 00:10:04,438 --> 00:10:06,338 Was from the scene, 208 00:10:06,340 --> 00:10:09,407 The knife was from the scene, 209 00:10:09,409 --> 00:10:11,643 If it was just murder, you would think 210 00:10:11,645 --> 00:10:13,045 They would've brought weapons with them 211 00:10:13,047 --> 00:10:14,813 To commit the murder. 212 00:10:14,815 --> 00:10:17,182 Joe: To me, it appeared overkill, 213 00:10:17,184 --> 00:10:19,117 And so you immediately start thinking 214 00:10:19,119 --> 00:10:22,386 About somebody that had a grudge against them 215 00:10:22,388 --> 00:10:25,457 And we knew that really we need to go at it hard, and fast 216 00:10:25,459 --> 00:10:28,359 And finally solve this quickly as we could. 217 00:10:30,964 --> 00:10:32,398 Rusty: Mr. Kenney had complained 218 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,466 About a nurse's aide, daniel diaz. 219 00:10:35,468 --> 00:10:38,804 Diaz had come back to the house drunk one night 220 00:10:38,806 --> 00:10:40,938 And knocked things off the table, 221 00:10:40,940 --> 00:10:44,609 And broke mr. Kenney's hearing aid. 222 00:10:44,611 --> 00:10:47,346 Joe: We discovered that clayton kenney had a son, 223 00:10:47,348 --> 00:10:49,081 Bryan kenney. 224 00:10:49,083 --> 00:10:50,882 Rusty: The thing that struck me about bryan 225 00:10:50,884 --> 00:10:53,050 Was he was very calm, you know. 226 00:10:53,052 --> 00:10:54,386 Here he lost his dad, 227 00:10:54,388 --> 00:10:57,055 His stepmother, and his stepsister. 228 00:10:57,057 --> 00:10:58,590 Joe: Then you get to wondering 229 00:10:58,592 --> 00:10:59,892 If there might be a reason there 230 00:10:59,894 --> 00:11:08,766 For bryan kenney to kill his family. 231 00:11:08,768 --> 00:11:11,302 Nse music playing] rusty: Clayton kenney, juliana kenney, 232 00:11:11,304 --> 00:11:14,172 And mrs. Kenney's daughter, adrienne arnot, 233 00:11:14,174 --> 00:11:16,174 Had been brutally murdered. 234 00:11:16,176 --> 00:11:17,775 You don't normally see 235 00:11:17,777 --> 00:11:20,045 Three members of a family killed. 236 00:11:23,950 --> 00:11:25,517 Rusty: And looking at the scene, 237 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:28,119 We felt the murders occurred Sunday evening, 238 00:11:28,121 --> 00:11:29,721 Which was the day before, 239 00:11:29,723 --> 00:11:32,424 Between 8:00 and 10:00. 240 00:11:32,426 --> 00:11:34,592 It looked like some of them were still eating 241 00:11:34,594 --> 00:11:38,797 When the suspect or suspects entered the house. 242 00:11:38,799 --> 00:11:41,999 Rusty: Juliana kenney, she had had a stroke 243 00:11:42,001 --> 00:11:44,737 And so she was paralyzed on the left side 244 00:11:44,739 --> 00:11:47,239 So she could not even move. 245 00:11:48,242 --> 00:11:49,742 And so it really looked like 246 00:11:49,744 --> 00:11:52,677 She had to actually sit in that chair 247 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,015 And watch her husband and her daughter 248 00:11:56,017 --> 00:11:58,817 Get brutally, brutally murdered 249 00:11:58,819 --> 00:12:00,052 Right there in the foyer 250 00:12:00,054 --> 00:12:01,819 And she couldn't do anything. 251 00:12:01,821 --> 00:12:05,690 She couldn't even turn loose of the spoon in her hand 252 00:12:05,692 --> 00:12:09,360 And then this brutal killer pushes her head back 253 00:12:09,362 --> 00:12:12,430 And cuts her throat and bashes her in the head. 254 00:12:15,001 --> 00:12:18,136 That probably sticks with me more than anything else, 255 00:12:18,138 --> 00:12:19,504 What that lady went through 256 00:12:19,506 --> 00:12:21,005 In the last minutes of her life. 257 00:12:23,243 --> 00:12:26,177 Margaret: As a mother, I cannot even imagine 258 00:12:26,179 --> 00:12:29,281 Watching your child being bludgeoned 259 00:12:29,283 --> 00:12:31,282 And stabbed to death, 260 00:12:31,284 --> 00:12:33,618 And not being able to do anything about it, 261 00:12:33,620 --> 00:12:35,353 And then know 262 00:12:35,355 --> 00:12:38,790 That eventually they were going to come for you. 263 00:12:38,792 --> 00:12:41,025 [dramatic music playing] 264 00:12:43,530 --> 00:12:45,897 Rusty: In looking at where mr. Kenney 265 00:12:45,899 --> 00:12:48,000 And adrienne arnot were laying, 266 00:12:48,002 --> 00:12:50,268 There was some blood spatter on the door, 267 00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:52,003 But it did not appear 268 00:12:52,005 --> 00:12:54,606 That there was any type of forced entry 269 00:12:54,608 --> 00:12:58,075 And so it really looked like somebody knocked on the door 270 00:12:58,077 --> 00:13:01,680 And then they were attacked as they opened the door. 271 00:13:01,682 --> 00:13:03,681 Ron: It was one of the most horrendous 272 00:13:03,683 --> 00:13:05,817 Murder cases you could imagine, 273 00:13:05,819 --> 00:13:07,418 The family had been stabbed 274 00:13:07,420 --> 00:13:09,321 And beat over the head with clubs 275 00:13:09,323 --> 00:13:11,722 And it was a terrible, terrible scene. 276 00:13:11,724 --> 00:13:13,424 It did not seem to be, 277 00:13:13,426 --> 00:13:15,293 Uh, a burglary of any significance 278 00:13:15,295 --> 00:13:18,396 Provided if somebody crazed went in there 279 00:13:18,398 --> 00:13:20,732 And did this. 280 00:13:20,734 --> 00:13:23,801 Based on the crime scene, you pretty well assume 281 00:13:23,803 --> 00:13:27,305 One person would have a hard time doing all that 282 00:13:27,307 --> 00:13:29,841 Because you're killing three people. 283 00:13:29,843 --> 00:13:33,578 Adrienne arnot should possibly escape out the door 284 00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:35,179 If there's one person. 285 00:13:35,181 --> 00:13:39,118 Two persons, they could keep her under control. 286 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,887 Rusty: With three victims and that brutally beaten, 287 00:13:41,889 --> 00:13:44,590 And then it appeared that the killer had overpowered 288 00:13:44,592 --> 00:13:47,391 At least the two right there in the front foyer 289 00:13:47,393 --> 00:13:48,727 At the same time, 290 00:13:48,729 --> 00:13:51,128 We really felt we had more than one suspect 291 00:13:51,130 --> 00:13:52,998 Involved in this. 292 00:13:54,801 --> 00:13:57,736 Joe: That same day, we interviewed mr. Abernethy, 293 00:13:57,738 --> 00:14:00,238 The, uh, neighbor of the kenneys, 294 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,608 We asked him if he--you have anything 295 00:14:02,610 --> 00:14:06,745 Or anyone that the victims might have had a problem with. 296 00:14:06,747 --> 00:14:09,447 Rusty: Mr. Abernethy told us that 297 00:14:09,449 --> 00:14:11,449 Mr. Kenney had complained to him 298 00:14:11,451 --> 00:14:14,086 About a nurse's aide that they had hired 299 00:14:14,088 --> 00:14:16,487 To help take care of ms. Kenney in the house 300 00:14:16,489 --> 00:14:20,058 Who ended up being a man by the name of daniel diaz. 301 00:14:21,761 --> 00:14:24,328 Joe: Diaz was a live-in nurse. 302 00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:27,432 Apparently, he had been abusive to mrs. Kenney. 303 00:14:27,434 --> 00:14:29,333 And called her all kind of names, 304 00:14:29,335 --> 00:14:30,869 Was very rough with her, 305 00:14:30,871 --> 00:14:35,173 And that she would like to see him get fired. 306 00:14:35,175 --> 00:14:37,709 And the daughter, adrienne arnot, 307 00:14:37,711 --> 00:14:39,243 Was gonna fire him. 308 00:14:39,245 --> 00:14:41,412 And she did. 309 00:14:41,414 --> 00:14:44,148 And because of that, he was mad at the kenneys, 310 00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:47,619 That he would have a grudge against them for being fired. 311 00:14:47,621 --> 00:14:49,922 Rusty: He did have the violent tendency. 312 00:14:49,924 --> 00:14:52,423 He could've committed this act. 313 00:14:52,425 --> 00:14:56,527 And talking to the neighbor, mr. Abernathy, 314 00:14:56,529 --> 00:14:59,196 We found out that there was even a time 315 00:14:59,198 --> 00:15:01,300 That the sheriff's office had been called out 316 00:15:01,302 --> 00:15:02,867 To their house 317 00:15:02,869 --> 00:15:04,736 Few months before the murders 318 00:15:04,738 --> 00:15:07,005 Because of mr. Diaz. 319 00:15:08,341 --> 00:15:10,975 After adrienne fired him, 320 00:15:10,977 --> 00:15:13,744 Diaz had come back to the house, drunk one night, 321 00:15:13,746 --> 00:15:15,848 And knocked things off at the table, 322 00:15:15,850 --> 00:15:18,482 And broke mr. Kenney's hearing aid. 323 00:15:18,484 --> 00:15:21,019 And that's when the sheriff's officer got called, 324 00:15:21,021 --> 00:15:22,420 Went out there, 325 00:15:22,422 --> 00:15:24,322 Had to deal with the criminal mischief. 326 00:15:24,324 --> 00:15:26,291 Joe: So at that point at the time, 327 00:15:26,293 --> 00:15:28,160 We wanted to talk to daniel diaz 328 00:15:28,162 --> 00:15:30,696 And to see if he might be a possible suspect 329 00:15:30,698 --> 00:15:32,563 In the murders. 330 00:15:32,565 --> 00:15:34,166 Rusty: So we send a couple people 331 00:15:34,168 --> 00:15:36,435 To go find mr. Diaz. 332 00:15:36,437 --> 00:15:38,303 Let's get started on that suspect 333 00:15:38,305 --> 00:15:40,739 But leave as quick as we can. 334 00:15:40,741 --> 00:15:44,609 [ominous music playing] 335 00:15:44,611 --> 00:15:47,312 Rusty: Then we had margaret duran help us. 336 00:15:47,314 --> 00:15:50,014 She found the appraisal paperwork on the house. 337 00:15:50,016 --> 00:15:52,383 She found the wills that mr. Kenney had. 338 00:15:52,385 --> 00:15:56,520 So, we're able to find out who the other relatives were. 339 00:15:56,522 --> 00:15:59,557 Joe: We discovered that clayton kenney had a son 340 00:15:59,559 --> 00:16:01,092 That lived in georgia, 341 00:16:01,094 --> 00:16:02,861 Bryan kenney. 342 00:16:02,863 --> 00:16:06,564 Sherriff kaiser located a phone number 343 00:16:06,566 --> 00:16:11,969 And made that call to bryan kenney, the son. 344 00:16:11,971 --> 00:16:15,240 She advised him of, uh, what had happened. 345 00:16:15,242 --> 00:16:18,643 And he advised that he would fly down 346 00:16:18,645 --> 00:16:20,345 And would, uh, contact us there. 347 00:16:21,447 --> 00:16:23,547 Anytime you have something like this, 348 00:16:23,549 --> 00:16:25,684 Three members of a family killed, 349 00:16:25,686 --> 00:16:28,920 You cannot just automatically eliminate family members 350 00:16:28,922 --> 00:16:30,688 As possible suspects. 351 00:16:32,192 --> 00:16:34,025 Rusty: I'm looking at the wills and the paperwork 352 00:16:34,027 --> 00:16:35,960 That we came up with in the house 353 00:16:35,962 --> 00:16:38,230 And I found that, you know, just a few months before, 354 00:16:38,232 --> 00:16:41,532 Mr. Kenney had redone his will 355 00:16:41,534 --> 00:16:43,869 And the sole person to get anything 356 00:16:43,871 --> 00:16:45,903 From mr. Kenney's estate 357 00:16:45,905 --> 00:16:48,773 Would've been the son, bryan kenney. 358 00:16:51,377 --> 00:16:53,844 Joe: Sine we learned that mr. Kenney had changed his will, 359 00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:56,848 We decided to dig into their financial situation 360 00:16:56,850 --> 00:16:58,883 A little more. 361 00:16:58,885 --> 00:17:01,652 Rusty: The kenneys property was probably worth 362 00:17:01,654 --> 00:17:04,755 Close to $250,300. 363 00:17:04,757 --> 00:17:06,657 Of course now that's 30 years ago. 364 00:17:06,659 --> 00:17:09,995 We found that they did have savings account 365 00:17:09,997 --> 00:17:12,396 And safety deposit boxes, 366 00:17:12,398 --> 00:17:14,131 They had stocks and bonds. 367 00:17:14,133 --> 00:17:16,801 So, they were probably living pretty comfortably 368 00:17:16,803 --> 00:17:18,970 At that time. 369 00:17:20,973 --> 00:17:23,340 Joe: Sometimes a change in the will 370 00:17:23,342 --> 00:17:27,111 Or some type of argument escalates, 371 00:17:27,113 --> 00:17:28,447 Then you get to wondering 372 00:17:28,449 --> 00:17:30,147 If there might be a reason there 373 00:17:30,149 --> 00:17:32,917 For byran kenney to kill his family, 374 00:17:32,919 --> 00:17:35,587 Motive might've been for financial gain. 375 00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:45,797 Joe: This is crime wher 376 00:17:45,799 --> 00:17:47,198 Murdered in their own home. 377 00:17:49,135 --> 00:17:50,902 We had two suspects. 378 00:17:50,904 --> 00:17:53,805 One was his son, bryan kenney. 379 00:17:53,807 --> 00:17:58,176 Rusty: Byran would've been entitled to mr. Kenney's estate. 380 00:17:58,178 --> 00:18:00,712 So now, it being a family murder 381 00:18:00,714 --> 00:18:04,583 Could it be a family member that did this? 382 00:18:04,585 --> 00:18:06,951 Joe: And the other suspect was danny diaz. 383 00:18:06,953 --> 00:18:10,921 He had worked for the kenneys at one time. 384 00:18:10,923 --> 00:18:12,756 And he was the one that was fired 385 00:18:12,758 --> 00:18:16,461 And had been abusive apparently to mrs. Kenney. 386 00:18:16,463 --> 00:18:19,865 With diaz, the motive could've been revenge. 387 00:18:22,603 --> 00:18:25,402 There was one person close to the kenneys 388 00:18:25,404 --> 00:18:26,871 We had to eliminate. 389 00:18:26,873 --> 00:18:28,772 Margaret duran, the maid who's found them. 390 00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:33,611 Her and her husband agreed to take a polygraph. 391 00:18:35,249 --> 00:18:37,281 And they both passed it. 392 00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:41,953 Joe: Then we check the tire tracks on their vehicle 393 00:18:41,955 --> 00:18:44,455 Just to see if they match with the car tracks 394 00:18:44,457 --> 00:18:45,756 At the murder scene. 395 00:18:45,758 --> 00:18:48,893 And the tires were different. 396 00:18:48,895 --> 00:18:51,796 Rusty: So we pretty well eliminated her and her husband. 397 00:18:55,301 --> 00:18:57,436 Joe: We then located danny diaz 398 00:18:57,438 --> 00:19:00,138 And did a background check on him. 399 00:19:00,140 --> 00:19:01,805 Rusty: He did have a criminal history 400 00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:04,341 That he abused women. 401 00:19:04,343 --> 00:19:06,177 Joe: We then found out that diaz 402 00:19:06,179 --> 00:19:10,181 Lived out south of kerrville in a mobile home. 403 00:19:10,183 --> 00:19:13,284 Rusty hierholzer and myself interviewed him. 404 00:19:14,253 --> 00:19:15,921 We had informed him of course 405 00:19:15,923 --> 00:19:18,989 That the kenneys had been killed. 406 00:19:18,991 --> 00:19:21,893 He stated he knew nothing about that. 407 00:19:21,895 --> 00:19:25,629 Rusty: Diaz tried to say he left on good terms 408 00:19:25,631 --> 00:19:28,499 With the kenneys, but adrienne fired him 409 00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:30,134 Because of the abuse. 410 00:19:30,136 --> 00:19:32,804 So we already knew right then he was lying to us. 411 00:19:34,774 --> 00:19:36,942 Joe: As an alibi, diaz had told us he had worked 412 00:19:36,944 --> 00:19:39,009 The day of the murders and he got off 413 00:19:39,011 --> 00:19:41,079 And then went to a girlfriend's house 414 00:19:41,081 --> 00:19:43,415 From 8:00 pm to 11:00 pm. 415 00:19:43,417 --> 00:19:45,316 Rusty: Which would've given him an alibi 416 00:19:45,318 --> 00:19:48,920 For the best we could come up with about the timeframe. 417 00:19:48,922 --> 00:19:51,423 Joe: We then asked him if he would give us permission 418 00:19:51,425 --> 00:19:52,924 To search his residence. 419 00:19:54,027 --> 00:19:55,860 And he stated he would. 420 00:19:57,130 --> 00:19:58,762 Of course we're looking for 421 00:19:58,764 --> 00:20:00,699 A tennis shoe that might match 422 00:20:00,701 --> 00:20:02,833 The track that was left at the scene 423 00:20:02,835 --> 00:20:04,868 Or any of the missing items 424 00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:07,438 That had been reported to us. 425 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,907 Rusty: He had a motorcycle, he didn't have a car. 426 00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:12,877 So motorcycle tire tracks definitely weren't what-- 427 00:20:12,879 --> 00:20:15,112 We're made at the scene. 428 00:20:15,114 --> 00:20:18,249 So we just didn't have anything right then 429 00:20:18,251 --> 00:20:20,985 To be able to make an arrest or anything. 430 00:20:22,956 --> 00:20:25,422 Joe: We went to kelly brown's residence 431 00:20:25,424 --> 00:20:27,258 And interviewed her. 432 00:20:27,260 --> 00:20:29,327 She was diaz's girlfriend. 433 00:20:29,329 --> 00:20:31,395 We wanted to see if she would verify 434 00:20:31,397 --> 00:20:33,765 What diaz had told us. 435 00:20:33,767 --> 00:20:35,967 She pretty well confirmed his alibi 436 00:20:35,969 --> 00:20:37,468 That he was with her that night, 437 00:20:37,470 --> 00:20:40,337 But she gave us some interesting points 438 00:20:40,339 --> 00:20:43,540 That, like, kind of made red flags go up. 439 00:20:43,542 --> 00:20:45,609 She did say when he came into her house, 440 00:20:45,611 --> 00:20:48,413 That he had washed his arms all the way up to his elbows, 441 00:20:48,415 --> 00:20:50,782 That he didn't have his gloves on, 442 00:20:50,784 --> 00:20:54,685 And he did normally wear them because he's on a motorcycle. 443 00:20:54,687 --> 00:20:57,355 Joe: And so we went back to diaz 444 00:20:57,357 --> 00:21:00,357 And asked him if he would be willing to take 445 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,795 A polygraph which he said he would agree to. 446 00:21:05,131 --> 00:21:06,697 Rusty: A lot of times a polygraph 447 00:21:06,699 --> 00:21:08,166 Is a very useful tool 448 00:21:08,168 --> 00:21:10,668 Because once somebody does fail it, 449 00:21:10,670 --> 00:21:12,771 A good majority of the time after that, 450 00:21:12,773 --> 00:21:14,405 They will confess to the crime 451 00:21:14,407 --> 00:21:16,707 And give you a good confession statement. 452 00:21:16,709 --> 00:21:20,878 But a polygraph is not admissible in court either way. 453 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,483 So mr. Diaz was taken and given a polygraph. 454 00:21:25,485 --> 00:21:28,920 We asked him, "did you commit the murder?" 455 00:21:28,922 --> 00:21:31,555 He said, "no," 456 00:21:31,557 --> 00:21:33,491 And he failed the polygraph. 457 00:21:37,030 --> 00:21:42,366 So we ended up polygraphing kelly brown, the girlfriend, 458 00:21:42,368 --> 00:21:48,105 And lo and behold, she failed the polygraph, too. 459 00:21:48,107 --> 00:21:51,909 Ron: Officers were ready to arrest him and I said no. 460 00:21:51,911 --> 00:21:55,479 In this situation, uh, they both flunked the polygraph 461 00:21:55,481 --> 00:21:58,182 But no other physical facts 462 00:21:58,184 --> 00:22:02,753 Would indicate that danny diaz had anything to do with it. 463 00:22:04,758 --> 00:22:06,357 Rusty: So at that time, 464 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,959 Bryan kenney, clayton kenney's son, 465 00:22:08,961 --> 00:22:11,295 Had flown in from georgia. 466 00:22:11,297 --> 00:22:15,933 The sole person to get anything from mr. Kenney estate 467 00:22:15,935 --> 00:22:17,368 Would've been bryan. 468 00:22:19,138 --> 00:22:21,805 Joe: He told us there was no major problems 469 00:22:21,807 --> 00:22:25,843 Between him and his dad or his, uh, stepmother. 470 00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:28,212 Rusty: It didn't appear him and his dad were real close, 471 00:22:28,214 --> 00:22:31,148 And the thing that struck me about bryan 472 00:22:31,150 --> 00:22:33,217 Was he was very calm, you know. 473 00:22:33,219 --> 00:22:35,919 Here he lost his dad, his stepmother 474 00:22:35,921 --> 00:22:37,755 And his stepsister, 475 00:22:37,757 --> 00:22:41,391 That's three people in one family wiped out. 476 00:22:41,393 --> 00:22:44,762 So I thought well, you know, I--I'm just not sure there. 477 00:22:44,764 --> 00:22:46,498 He gave us a pretty good alibi. 478 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:49,300 He was in georgia, atlanta at the time and everything. 479 00:22:50,636 --> 00:22:52,870 Joe: So at that time, bryan kenney agreed 480 00:22:52,872 --> 00:22:54,939 That he would take a polygraph. 481 00:22:58,511 --> 00:23:02,079 And he was cleared by the polygraph. 482 00:23:02,081 --> 00:23:04,815 He had been in georgia that was verified. 483 00:23:04,817 --> 00:23:07,751 And he was really eliminated at that time, 484 00:23:07,753 --> 00:23:10,655 Unless other information showed up. 485 00:23:14,627 --> 00:23:17,694 The next day or so, danny diaz's girlfriend, 486 00:23:17,696 --> 00:23:21,064 Kelly brown, contacted us and advised that 487 00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:24,235 She hadn't been completely truthful with us. 488 00:23:24,237 --> 00:23:27,905 She was basically his alibi at the time. 489 00:23:27,907 --> 00:23:30,508 She called us and said that he confessed to her. 490 00:23:31,811 --> 00:23:35,979 That he told her he murdered three people. 491 00:23:35,981 --> 00:23:38,749 Joe: She said that she had lied, and that danny diaz 492 00:23:38,751 --> 00:23:40,884 Had told her that he had actually 493 00:23:40,886 --> 00:23:44,188 Killed the kenneys and adrienne arnot. 494 00:23:44,190 --> 00:23:46,224 Rusty: Now I'm thinking, "okay, we got it." 495 00:23:46,226 --> 00:23:48,660 This possibly could be the break we needed 496 00:23:48,662 --> 00:23:59,403 To arrest danny diaz for the three murders. 497 00:23:59,405 --> 00:24:01,939 Usic plajoe: Danny diaz was our prime suspect 498 00:24:01,941 --> 00:24:04,408 In the murder of clayton kenney, 499 00:24:04,410 --> 00:24:08,213 His wife, juliana kenney, and adrienne arnot. 500 00:24:08,215 --> 00:24:10,715 We interviewed him, but we didn't have any evidence 501 00:24:10,717 --> 00:24:12,751 To put him at the crime scene. 502 00:24:12,753 --> 00:24:14,818 So we'd release him, 503 00:24:14,820 --> 00:24:17,254 And then we were shocked to learn 504 00:24:17,256 --> 00:24:20,291 That danny diaz had confessed 505 00:24:20,293 --> 00:24:23,794 To the crime to his girlfriend, kelly brown. 506 00:24:25,764 --> 00:24:28,165 So we actually had kelly brown 507 00:24:28,167 --> 00:24:31,268 Call diaz to see if he would admit 508 00:24:31,270 --> 00:24:33,304 That he had killed the kenney family. 509 00:24:35,208 --> 00:24:36,974 Rusty: She asked him during that conversation, 510 00:24:36,976 --> 00:24:38,642 "you know, you told me about killing them." 511 00:24:38,644 --> 00:24:41,245 And, at that point, he blew up at her. 512 00:24:41,247 --> 00:24:42,779 Said she was a liar. 513 00:24:42,781 --> 00:24:46,217 He never said all that kind of stuff. 514 00:24:46,219 --> 00:24:49,386 And that conversation didn't get us anywhere. 515 00:24:49,388 --> 00:24:50,955 Then she recanted again. 516 00:24:53,158 --> 00:24:55,959 She said "no, he didn't actually tell me 517 00:24:55,961 --> 00:24:58,195 That he murdered the kenneys." 518 00:24:58,197 --> 00:24:59,597 And I'm going, 519 00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:01,399 "where are we with this young lady?" 520 00:25:01,401 --> 00:25:05,002 I mean, she's just all over the--the map on this thing, 521 00:25:05,004 --> 00:25:08,273 And I had no earthly idea why kelly brown 522 00:25:08,275 --> 00:25:11,842 Kept changing her stories or why she kept telling us 523 00:25:11,844 --> 00:25:13,411 The things she told us. 524 00:25:16,449 --> 00:25:18,816 Joe: When kelly brown admitted that she had lied 525 00:25:18,818 --> 00:25:20,050 About the whole thing, 526 00:25:20,052 --> 00:25:21,785 We pretty well eliminated 527 00:25:21,787 --> 00:25:23,420 Kelly brown as a witness. 528 00:25:23,422 --> 00:25:25,556 She couldn't really tell us anything 529 00:25:25,558 --> 00:25:28,693 About who might have murdered that family. 530 00:25:34,267 --> 00:25:35,832 Rusty: The funerals were conducted 531 00:25:35,834 --> 00:25:39,102 For all three of the victims. 532 00:25:39,104 --> 00:25:40,571 I wanted to say, 533 00:25:40,573 --> 00:25:43,941 "who all else is attending that funeral?" 534 00:25:43,943 --> 00:25:47,445 So, you know, I had officers out in the parking around the church 535 00:25:47,447 --> 00:25:49,913 Actually go through the parking lot, look at tires. 536 00:25:49,915 --> 00:25:52,950 Could we match that tire from the crime scene 537 00:25:52,952 --> 00:25:54,718 To any vehicles in the parking lot 538 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,187 At the funeral? 539 00:25:57,389 --> 00:25:59,991 But none of them matched the tire tracks. 540 00:26:02,460 --> 00:26:05,163 So after the funeral, we sat and visited 541 00:26:05,165 --> 00:26:07,931 With different relatives. 542 00:26:07,933 --> 00:26:10,901 Adrienne's friends out of houston came up. 543 00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:13,872 They said adrienne had been in a relationship 544 00:26:13,874 --> 00:26:17,074 And actually have a fiancee in houston, 545 00:26:18,277 --> 00:26:20,711 A mr. Thompson. 546 00:26:20,713 --> 00:26:22,981 Joe: Adrienne and ronald thompson 547 00:26:22,983 --> 00:26:24,881 Had been going together in houston, 548 00:26:24,883 --> 00:26:28,051 And had a disagreement and were not getting along 549 00:26:28,053 --> 00:26:29,353 And had broken up. 550 00:26:30,689 --> 00:26:32,222 Rusty: Adrienne's friends said 551 00:26:32,224 --> 00:26:34,257 That he was really jealous. 552 00:26:34,259 --> 00:26:36,760 They said that he went through a lot of her money. 553 00:26:36,762 --> 00:26:40,031 He took a lot of her money. There was alcohol. 554 00:26:40,033 --> 00:26:41,866 There's all kinds-- I thought, "uh-oh. 555 00:26:41,868 --> 00:26:45,202 Here comes another, you know, kind of red flag." 556 00:26:45,204 --> 00:26:49,272 But could he murder three people in one family? 557 00:26:49,274 --> 00:26:51,208 You know, the potential for violence 558 00:26:51,210 --> 00:26:53,044 Was in that relationship. 559 00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:57,614 And those friends when asked directly, 560 00:26:57,616 --> 00:26:58,949 Do they think mr. Thompson 561 00:26:58,951 --> 00:27:01,952 Was capable of doing the murders, 562 00:27:01,954 --> 00:27:06,323 Every one of them answered yes, definitely. 563 00:27:06,325 --> 00:27:09,827 And that was the first time we heard of mr. Thompson. 564 00:27:09,829 --> 00:27:12,462 At that time, he became an immediate suspect 565 00:27:12,464 --> 00:27:16,467 Because of his relationship with adrienne arnot. 566 00:27:16,469 --> 00:27:19,102 Rusty: So we got to check in on him, and, sure enough, 567 00:27:19,104 --> 00:27:20,705 He had actually been through kerrville 568 00:27:20,707 --> 00:27:22,874 Several times before in the past, 569 00:27:22,876 --> 00:27:26,510 So we wanted to interview mr. Thompson. 570 00:27:29,281 --> 00:27:30,615 About a week later, 571 00:27:30,617 --> 00:27:33,150 We found him in lubbock, texas. 572 00:27:33,152 --> 00:27:35,385 We interviewed him. 573 00:27:35,387 --> 00:27:36,687 And he had an alibi. 574 00:27:36,689 --> 00:27:38,889 He had a girlfriend in lubbock. 575 00:27:38,891 --> 00:27:41,091 He was with her on the night off the murder. 576 00:27:41,093 --> 00:27:42,659 Said he didn't do it. 577 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:44,895 Joe: So, at that time, ronald thompson 578 00:27:44,897 --> 00:27:47,398 Agreed that he would take a polygraph 579 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,032 At a later date. 580 00:27:49,034 --> 00:27:51,602 Rusty: So we wanted him interviewed with the girlfriend 581 00:27:51,604 --> 00:27:54,304 About his alibi. 582 00:27:54,306 --> 00:27:56,173 Joe: The girlfriend was interviewed 583 00:27:56,175 --> 00:27:58,443 And she stated that ronald thompson 584 00:27:58,445 --> 00:28:00,578 Had been with her during this time period 585 00:28:00,580 --> 00:28:02,713 That the victims were murdered. 586 00:28:05,284 --> 00:28:07,717 Rusty: But then a couple days later, 587 00:28:07,719 --> 00:28:09,219 Mr. Thompson called me 588 00:28:09,221 --> 00:28:11,054 And said, nope, he changed his mind. 589 00:28:11,056 --> 00:28:13,757 He's not gonna take a polygraph. 590 00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:15,793 He said he had talked with an attorney 591 00:28:15,795 --> 00:28:18,495 And the attorney told him, "don't take the polygraph." 592 00:28:18,497 --> 00:28:21,531 So now that threw up more red flags. 593 00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:22,866 If he had nothing to do with it, 594 00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:25,169 Why won't he take the polygraph? 595 00:28:27,139 --> 00:28:30,108 It was really getting frustrating at that point. 596 00:28:30,110 --> 00:28:32,476 So now since we've gone down these 597 00:28:32,478 --> 00:28:35,245 Kind of rabbit trails with mr. Thompson, 598 00:28:35,247 --> 00:28:38,249 Brian kenney, and danny diaz, 599 00:28:38,251 --> 00:28:40,117 We're kind of at a stalemate. 600 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:42,753 So let's start looking at some of the other evidence 601 00:28:42,755 --> 00:28:45,923 And see if we can start tying another link into it. 602 00:28:49,628 --> 00:28:52,063 We still had that bloody shoe track. 603 00:28:53,532 --> 00:28:56,567 I ended up going to our local jcpenny store here 604 00:28:56,569 --> 00:28:59,570 And just going through their tennis shoes. 605 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,408 Joe: Shoe print was identified as a nike air, 606 00:29:04,410 --> 00:29:06,777 Size nine, nine and a half. 607 00:29:09,048 --> 00:29:11,648 And we found that department store at kerville 608 00:29:11,650 --> 00:29:14,251 Had sold that particular tennis shoe. 609 00:29:16,121 --> 00:29:17,854 Rusty: Then we're about three weeks 610 00:29:17,856 --> 00:29:19,589 Into the investigation itself. 611 00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:22,392 I was talking to the head of the dps lab, 612 00:29:22,394 --> 00:29:26,663 And he told me they were able to find a very small, 613 00:29:26,665 --> 00:29:29,099 Almost the size of your little fingernail, 614 00:29:29,101 --> 00:29:33,271 Identifiable print on that cedar club 615 00:29:33,273 --> 00:29:37,174 That had been found at the scene. 616 00:29:37,176 --> 00:29:42,312 I was ecstatic that we got that type of evidence now. 617 00:29:42,314 --> 00:29:44,214 Joe: This was great news to us at the time 618 00:29:44,216 --> 00:29:47,083 Because this was, hopefully, the break we needed 619 00:29:47,085 --> 00:29:48,819 To solve these murders. 620 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,326 Rusty: We got all of our suspect's 621 00:29:56,328 --> 00:29:57,895 Finger and palm prints, 622 00:29:57,897 --> 00:30:00,465 And we had all those submitted to the dps lab 623 00:30:00,467 --> 00:30:02,265 To compare them to the fingerprint 624 00:30:02,267 --> 00:30:03,667 On that club. 625 00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:05,803 And at that time we all got shocked. 626 00:30:07,072 --> 00:30:10,040 And then we got two phone calls, 627 00:30:10,042 --> 00:30:12,577 And they both identified a guy 628 00:30:12,579 --> 00:30:15,379 That was at our kerrville state hospital 629 00:30:15,381 --> 00:30:18,448 Saying that he was part of those murders. 630 00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:18,515 What would have the connection been to kenneys? 631 00:30:18,649 --> 00:30:28,859 Joe: We had three family members that were murdered, 632 00:30:28,861 --> 00:30:30,927 And we were notified by the lab 633 00:30:30,929 --> 00:30:33,296 That they had lifted a print off the club 634 00:30:33,298 --> 00:30:36,733 That had been used to kill the kenney family. 635 00:30:36,735 --> 00:30:39,069 Rusty: If this was our suspect's fingerprint, 636 00:30:39,071 --> 00:30:42,739 He was the person that held that club 637 00:30:42,741 --> 00:30:46,176 And so brutally beat these people to death. 638 00:30:49,615 --> 00:30:52,650 Rusty: Then we went back to mr. Diaz, 639 00:30:52,652 --> 00:30:55,620 And he did give us a copy of his finger and palm prints. 640 00:30:55,622 --> 00:30:57,821 We got a copy of diaz's girlfriend, 641 00:30:57,823 --> 00:30:59,656 Kelly's finger and palm prints. 642 00:30:59,658 --> 00:31:01,626 We even got a copy of mr. Thompson's 643 00:31:01,628 --> 00:31:03,193 Finger and palm print. 644 00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:04,796 And we had all those submitted 645 00:31:04,798 --> 00:31:06,763 To the dps lab to compare them 646 00:31:06,765 --> 00:31:08,732 To the fingerprint on that club. 647 00:31:08,734 --> 00:31:11,535 And they called me back the next day. 648 00:31:13,306 --> 00:31:15,372 And at that time, we all got shocked 649 00:31:15,374 --> 00:31:18,208 Because none of them matched what was on that club. 650 00:31:19,544 --> 00:31:21,913 And that was extremely frustrating, 651 00:31:21,915 --> 00:31:23,847 Kind of like that roller coaster. 652 00:31:23,849 --> 00:31:25,983 Has been on a high, we got a fingerprint. 653 00:31:25,985 --> 00:31:28,118 Now went on that low again. 654 00:31:29,454 --> 00:31:33,123 So now where are we? Are we back at step one? 655 00:31:33,125 --> 00:31:36,226 We were at a stalemate for months. 656 00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:37,994 And it was torment. 657 00:31:37,996 --> 00:31:39,997 Obsession just dragged out. 658 00:31:39,999 --> 00:31:43,600 Our community going through a total hell. 659 00:31:43,602 --> 00:31:46,871 Margaret: It left a cloud of insecurity. 660 00:31:46,873 --> 00:31:48,673 We weren't sure if this person 661 00:31:48,675 --> 00:31:50,340 Was going to strike again. 662 00:31:50,342 --> 00:31:53,209 Ron: There was no sufficient evidence 663 00:31:53,211 --> 00:31:55,646 To really point at any particular person 664 00:31:55,648 --> 00:31:58,281 Or group of persons, and it was beginning 665 00:31:58,283 --> 00:32:01,151 To kind of die on the vine, so to speak. 666 00:32:02,988 --> 00:32:05,121 Rusty: When the case appeared to have stalled, 667 00:32:05,123 --> 00:32:06,957 We're racking our brains trying to figure out, 668 00:32:06,959 --> 00:32:08,892 "what else can we do?" 669 00:32:10,363 --> 00:32:12,762 About a year after the murders, we reached out 670 00:32:12,764 --> 00:32:16,299 To the san antonio police department, 671 00:32:16,301 --> 00:32:18,568 And they actually stepped up 672 00:32:18,570 --> 00:32:21,372 With their crime stoppers program. 673 00:32:21,374 --> 00:32:23,907 Margaret: Crime stoppers is an organization 674 00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:27,844 That works with law enforcement to gather information 675 00:32:27,846 --> 00:32:31,949 About crimes and what the public might know 676 00:32:31,951 --> 00:32:33,650 And offers a reward. 677 00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:35,919 In March of '93, 678 00:32:35,921 --> 00:32:38,455 Crime stoppers aired on texas tv, 679 00:32:38,457 --> 00:32:41,959 Looking for information about the kenney murders. 680 00:32:44,664 --> 00:32:46,730 Rusty: In July of '93, 681 00:32:46,732 --> 00:32:49,933 We got two, actually, crime stoppers phone calls, 682 00:32:49,935 --> 00:32:53,003 And they both identified a guy 683 00:32:53,005 --> 00:32:55,405 That was at our kerville state hospital 684 00:32:55,407 --> 00:32:58,475 Seeking drug and mental treatment, 685 00:32:58,477 --> 00:33:01,011 Named james john steiner. 686 00:33:01,013 --> 00:33:05,016 Jimmy steiner had told people at the state hospital 687 00:33:05,018 --> 00:33:07,017 Where he was a patient 688 00:33:09,421 --> 00:33:11,188 That he was part of those murders. 689 00:33:12,457 --> 00:33:14,891 Joe: He admitted to one of the employees 690 00:33:14,893 --> 00:33:18,895 That he killed three people at the kenney home. 691 00:33:18,897 --> 00:33:20,630 Rusty: And I thought, "oh, wow. 692 00:33:20,632 --> 00:33:24,367 Now, let's look into this. It's a new lead." 693 00:33:24,369 --> 00:33:28,104 So I started digging on to jimmy steiner. 694 00:33:28,106 --> 00:33:30,308 Well, I found jimmy steiner's sister, 695 00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:32,777 And she told me how jimmy would check himself 696 00:33:32,779 --> 00:33:34,778 Into the state hospital a lot of times 697 00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:36,379 'cause of his drug addiction. 698 00:33:36,381 --> 00:33:38,316 But that he did have the violent tendency. 699 00:33:38,318 --> 00:33:41,519 He could have committed this act. 700 00:33:41,521 --> 00:33:44,254 With three victims and that brutally beaten, 701 00:33:44,256 --> 00:33:47,857 We really felt we had more than one suspect involved in this. 702 00:33:47,859 --> 00:33:51,228 So I asked, "who did he run around with?" 703 00:33:52,497 --> 00:33:54,264 Joe: James steiner's sister 704 00:33:54,266 --> 00:33:55,865 Told us that james steiner 705 00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:59,035 And a friend of his named sam gallamore 706 00:33:59,037 --> 00:34:00,637 Were living there in kerville 707 00:34:00,639 --> 00:34:03,807 During the time these murders occurred. 708 00:34:03,809 --> 00:34:05,275 Rusty: I knew sam gallamore since he was probably 709 00:34:05,277 --> 00:34:07,110 About eight or nine years old. 710 00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:11,214 A little community east of us called center point, 711 00:34:11,216 --> 00:34:14,751 Sam grew up in center point. I went to that school. 712 00:34:14,753 --> 00:34:17,220 I had known him, his family. 713 00:34:17,222 --> 00:34:19,423 We had a few assaults, a few drug charges, 714 00:34:19,425 --> 00:34:21,424 But he was petty criminal. 715 00:34:21,426 --> 00:34:23,893 It was really hard to believe to me 716 00:34:23,895 --> 00:34:26,296 That sam would commit murder. 717 00:34:28,234 --> 00:34:32,169 What would have the connection been between these two 718 00:34:32,171 --> 00:34:34,171 And the kenneys? I needed to know. 719 00:34:34,173 --> 00:34:38,041 So I asked jimmy's sister, if there was any connection. 720 00:34:38,043 --> 00:34:41,511 Jimmy had told her that he worked at a nursing home 721 00:34:41,513 --> 00:34:43,413 Here called edgewater. 722 00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:46,115 And at that time, ms. Kenney was a patient 723 00:34:46,117 --> 00:34:49,752 At that nursing home, and he helped take care of her 724 00:34:49,754 --> 00:34:52,522 At the nursing home. 725 00:34:52,524 --> 00:34:55,125 And that was the only connection 726 00:34:55,127 --> 00:35:00,430 Between the kenneys and these two people. 727 00:35:00,432 --> 00:35:03,467 The next day we found out through the employment records 728 00:35:03,469 --> 00:35:06,736 At the nursing home that at one point, 729 00:35:06,738 --> 00:35:10,340 Mr. Kenney hired jimmy to come to their house 730 00:35:10,342 --> 00:35:11,808 And help take care of her. 731 00:35:11,810 --> 00:35:15,679 One weekend a year before the murders. 732 00:35:17,516 --> 00:35:19,015 Joe: This was a huge break 733 00:35:19,017 --> 00:35:21,651 Because now we can put james steiner 734 00:35:21,653 --> 00:35:23,486 At the kenney home. 735 00:35:23,488 --> 00:35:25,155 Rusty: So what is the motive? 736 00:35:25,157 --> 00:35:28,525 Why would they murder three people in one family? 737 00:35:29,728 --> 00:35:31,762 We had one young man 738 00:35:31,764 --> 00:35:33,430 Who had gone to that house 739 00:35:33,432 --> 00:35:36,267 To help take care of this lady, 740 00:35:36,269 --> 00:35:38,768 And they go back a year later 741 00:35:38,770 --> 00:35:41,137 And commit one of the most brutal killings 742 00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:43,507 This community has ever seen. 743 00:35:43,509 --> 00:35:45,508 A man, his wife, and a daughter 744 00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:47,945 Killed in their home. 745 00:35:47,947 --> 00:35:50,647 To me that just didn't make sense. 746 00:35:51,716 --> 00:35:53,117 But jimmy's sister said, 747 00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:55,786 "well, sam had a girlfriend then." 748 00:35:55,788 --> 00:35:58,856 And so she agreed to call sam's girlfriend 749 00:35:58,858 --> 00:36:01,057 And have her come over to her house 750 00:36:01,059 --> 00:36:02,593 Where I could visit with her too. 751 00:36:02,595 --> 00:36:05,729 And so sam gallamore's girlfriend came 752 00:36:05,731 --> 00:36:08,998 To jimmy steiner's sister's house. 753 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,768 And I sat and interviewed her. 754 00:36:11,770 --> 00:36:14,905 And she told me back during the time period of the murder, 755 00:36:14,907 --> 00:36:18,441 Jimmy steiner and gallamore would use her car. 756 00:36:19,979 --> 00:36:23,948 We had good solid tracks at the crime scene. 757 00:36:23,950 --> 00:36:26,683 And I walk over to her car, 758 00:36:26,685 --> 00:36:30,420 And the first thing I saw was... 759 00:36:30,422 --> 00:36:32,223 The tires we were looking for 760 00:36:32,225 --> 00:36:35,693 On sam gallamore's girlfriend's car. 761 00:36:39,631 --> 00:36:41,431 So I got a hold of the lab 762 00:36:41,433 --> 00:36:45,702 And we told them to pull sam gallamore's fingerprint. 763 00:36:45,704 --> 00:36:47,037 He had a criminal record 764 00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,206 So we had fingerprints on file. 765 00:36:50,308 --> 00:36:51,975 And compare them to the fingerprint 766 00:36:51,977 --> 00:36:54,611 On that cedar club from the scene. 767 00:36:56,448 --> 00:36:58,581 Joe: On July 20th, 1993, 768 00:36:58,583 --> 00:37:00,717 I got the call we've been looking for. 769 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,520 Dps lab advised us 770 00:37:02,522 --> 00:37:05,556 That that fingerprint on that club... 771 00:37:07,325 --> 00:37:11,328 Matched sam gallamore's left index finger. 772 00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:15,064 Rusty: I was on cloud nine. 773 00:37:15,066 --> 00:37:18,302 We finally had the guy that held that club. 774 00:37:19,504 --> 00:37:20,670 I was ecstatic. 775 00:37:20,672 --> 00:37:22,205 I mean, I couldn't sit still. 776 00:37:22,207 --> 00:37:23,640 It was just, "we got it. 777 00:37:23,642 --> 00:37:26,176 Let's go find sam gallamore." 778 00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:34,851 Rusty: Sam gallamore's girlfriend had told me 779 00:37:34,853 --> 00:37:37,988 Sam gallamore was living with his aunt 780 00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:40,123 In indianapolis. 781 00:37:40,125 --> 00:37:43,660 Well, I found his aunt and interviewed her. 782 00:37:43,662 --> 00:37:47,297 She told me, "yeah, sam was over in niles, 783 00:37:47,299 --> 00:37:48,699 Suburb of chicago, right now 784 00:37:48,701 --> 00:37:51,067 Doing work remodeling a hair salon." 785 00:37:52,438 --> 00:37:54,237 Jimmy was in the state hospital 786 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,073 So we knew where he was gonna be. 787 00:37:56,075 --> 00:37:59,242 So it was within a day joe and were on a plane 788 00:37:59,244 --> 00:38:02,479 To see if we could find sam gallamore. 789 00:38:06,017 --> 00:38:08,751 Joe: Rusty hierholzer and I proceeded to niles 790 00:38:08,753 --> 00:38:11,554 And contacted the local police department, 791 00:38:11,556 --> 00:38:15,993 And they said, "we'd be more than happy to help." 792 00:38:15,995 --> 00:38:19,496 So the next morning we went to the beauty shop. 793 00:38:20,866 --> 00:38:22,332 Rusty: We walked in. 794 00:38:23,335 --> 00:38:25,835 And when I saw him and he saw me, 795 00:38:25,837 --> 00:38:27,838 Everything went still for a minute. 796 00:38:29,207 --> 00:38:31,974 Sam was up on a ladder, and he looked at me 797 00:38:31,976 --> 00:38:33,843 And he said, "hi, rusty. How are you?" 798 00:38:33,845 --> 00:38:35,611 And I said, "do you know why I'm here, sam?" 799 00:38:35,613 --> 00:38:36,913 And he said, "yup." 800 00:38:36,915 --> 00:38:38,347 And he came down and we arrested him 801 00:38:38,349 --> 00:38:40,116 Without any incident. 802 00:38:40,118 --> 00:38:42,653 I think he was tired of living with what he had done. 803 00:38:45,857 --> 00:38:48,792 And we took him to the niles police department. 804 00:38:57,001 --> 00:39:00,370 Rusty: And he gave a very detailed total confession. 805 00:39:09,381 --> 00:39:10,680 Man: Okay. 806 00:39:17,956 --> 00:39:20,590 Rusty: He said jimmy had thought about it. 807 00:39:20,592 --> 00:39:24,060 They were going to rob somebody for drug money. 808 00:39:24,062 --> 00:39:26,664 Joe: They thought they knew these people had money, 809 00:39:26,666 --> 00:39:28,499 And they were willing to kill for it. 810 00:39:41,413 --> 00:39:43,147 Rusty: They were drug-crazed, 811 00:39:43,149 --> 00:39:44,614 And they decided that if they got in their way, 812 00:39:44,616 --> 00:39:45,883 They were gonna kill them. 813 00:39:54,425 --> 00:39:57,393 Rusty: Mr. Kenney started to close the door on them. 814 00:39:57,395 --> 00:40:00,129 At that point, sam just pushed the door. 815 00:40:00,131 --> 00:40:01,964 Jimmy who was hiding around the corner, 816 00:40:01,966 --> 00:40:04,667 Came running in with the club, 817 00:40:04,669 --> 00:40:07,237 And they started beating him right there. 818 00:40:08,873 --> 00:40:12,976 Joe: Adrienne ran up there, saw what was happening, 819 00:40:12,978 --> 00:40:15,145 And they knocked her down. 820 00:40:15,147 --> 00:40:19,983 That's when she was attacked and beaten to death. 821 00:40:28,027 --> 00:40:29,892 Rusty: Sam told us the gloves, 822 00:40:29,894 --> 00:40:31,394 They only had one pair, 823 00:40:31,396 --> 00:40:33,763 So they each wore one glove. 824 00:40:45,443 --> 00:40:47,743 Rusty: Sam said he was the one that went around 825 00:40:47,745 --> 00:40:50,880 To juliana kenney, the mother, 826 00:40:50,882 --> 00:40:52,483 And killed her. 827 00:40:57,556 --> 00:41:01,191 Joe: And then they started looking for various items, 828 00:41:01,193 --> 00:41:05,095 Silver spoons and other items that they had taken. 829 00:41:08,768 --> 00:41:10,500 Rusty: Sam also told me, I asked him, 830 00:41:10,502 --> 00:41:12,369 "what did you all do with all the trinkets 831 00:41:12,371 --> 00:41:14,238 And the spoons and that?" 832 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:17,474 He said, "well, we didn't wanna get caught with those 833 00:41:17,476 --> 00:41:19,509 So I took them out to my parent's property," 834 00:41:19,511 --> 00:41:21,412 And he said, "I buried them." 835 00:41:21,414 --> 00:41:26,683 And sam told me, "mr. Kenney's wallet may have had $25 cash, 836 00:41:26,685 --> 00:41:29,019 And we bought a baggy of marijuana." 837 00:41:29,021 --> 00:41:31,087 And I said, "so you killed three people 838 00:41:31,089 --> 00:41:33,189 For a baggy of marijuana." 839 00:41:36,461 --> 00:41:39,061 While we were coming back to kerville, 840 00:41:39,063 --> 00:41:40,663 Other officers ended up going out 841 00:41:40,665 --> 00:41:42,399 To the state hospital 842 00:41:42,401 --> 00:41:45,368 And arrest jimmy steiner. 843 00:41:45,370 --> 00:41:48,939 And jimmy also wanted to confess. 844 00:41:48,941 --> 00:41:51,107 So we had two total confessions, 845 00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:54,477 And they both told us the same story. 846 00:41:58,050 --> 00:42:01,117 Joe: The next day, we took sam gallamore 847 00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:04,620 To center point, where his parents lived, 848 00:42:04,622 --> 00:42:09,259 To show us where they buried everything they had taken. 849 00:42:10,361 --> 00:42:12,728 They were all in a plastic bag, 850 00:42:12,730 --> 00:42:14,897 All the spoons, a brass horse, 851 00:42:14,899 --> 00:42:16,633 Everything they had taken. 852 00:42:16,635 --> 00:42:18,701 -Man: Just a bag. -Man: Yup. There it is. 853 00:42:18,703 --> 00:42:21,337 Rusty: It was a good closure at that point. 854 00:42:23,007 --> 00:42:25,575 Ron: To steal something and to kill whoever was there 855 00:42:25,577 --> 00:42:27,143 Just for the hell of it, 856 00:42:27,145 --> 00:42:29,912 Just like you'd kill a chicken or a rattlesnake, 857 00:42:29,914 --> 00:42:32,716 In my opinion, they should be executed 858 00:42:32,718 --> 00:42:35,384 And put to death for what they did. 859 00:42:35,386 --> 00:42:40,289 And so I personally sought the death penalty. 860 00:42:40,291 --> 00:42:42,591 Margaret: Sam gallamore was convicted 861 00:42:42,593 --> 00:42:46,462 And he got the death penalty. 862 00:42:46,464 --> 00:42:49,398 Ron: James steiner was convicted of capital murder. 863 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,370 He was given a life sentence. 864 00:42:53,372 --> 00:42:56,139 Rusty: Being that he had been in and out of the state hospital, 865 00:42:56,141 --> 00:42:58,007 His father had been killed at a young age 866 00:42:58,009 --> 00:43:01,177 In a motorcycle wreck, so the jury, in that one, 867 00:43:01,179 --> 00:43:03,546 Found that there were mitigating circumstance, 868 00:43:03,548 --> 00:43:05,581 And jimmy got life in the penitentiary. 869 00:43:25,737 --> 00:43:28,171 Margaret: I don't know if you can ever find closure 870 00:43:28,173 --> 00:43:31,073 With a vicious triple murder 871 00:43:31,075 --> 00:43:33,042 For the kenney family 872 00:43:33,044 --> 00:43:34,977 And adrienne's friends. 873 00:43:34,979 --> 00:43:37,213 It will never be over for them. 874 00:43:37,215 --> 00:43:41,450 As long as jimmy steiner is eligible for parole, 875 00:43:41,452 --> 00:43:43,787 There will be no resolution.