1 00:00:12,913 --> 00:00:14,080 [suspenseful music playing] 2 00:00:15,717 --> 00:00:16,716 Grace: Four deaths 3 00:00:16,718 --> 00:00:18,517 In one household. 4 00:00:19,753 --> 00:00:22,722 Dorinda: We lost three generations 5 00:00:22,724 --> 00:00:24,490 In one night. 6 00:00:26,994 --> 00:00:28,927 Summer had been having some troubles 7 00:00:28,929 --> 00:00:31,497 With the neighbors shooting guns 8 00:00:31,499 --> 00:00:34,032 Up towards the house. 9 00:00:34,034 --> 00:00:35,935 Det. Weisman: Two nine-millimeter casings 10 00:00:35,937 --> 00:00:38,171 Had been found in the bedroom. 11 00:00:38,173 --> 00:00:40,106 Grace: There had been some past relationship 12 00:00:40,108 --> 00:00:43,142 Where an angry boyfriend came after summer. 13 00:00:43,144 --> 00:00:45,143 Det. Weisman: He stated to me 14 00:00:45,145 --> 00:00:47,479 He had loaned him a firearm. 15 00:00:47,481 --> 00:00:49,147 Grace: As soon as I heard that, 16 00:00:49,149 --> 00:00:51,984 They were like, "wow." 17 00:00:51,986 --> 00:00:53,452 Officer gillet: What type of person 18 00:00:53,454 --> 00:00:56,054 Would kill babies? 19 00:00:56,056 --> 00:00:58,091 Dorinda: I wanted answers. 20 00:00:58,093 --> 00:01:00,827 Grace: The courtroom is completely silent, 21 00:01:00,829 --> 00:01:02,628 And then the bombshell. 22 00:01:04,865 --> 00:01:07,967 [ominous music playing] 23 00:01:18,979 --> 00:01:20,712 Officer gillet: The town of corydon, 24 00:01:20,714 --> 00:01:22,381 It's a small community. 25 00:01:22,383 --> 00:01:24,583 Darrell: A lot of farm people. 26 00:01:24,585 --> 00:01:26,919 You know, country good old boys. 27 00:01:26,921 --> 00:01:29,787 Grace: I mean, you talk about low crime rate. 28 00:01:29,789 --> 00:01:30,790 A lot of people didn't lock 29 00:01:30,792 --> 00:01:32,724 Their doors at night. 30 00:01:32,726 --> 00:01:34,926 Det. Weisman: The fact that this incident happened 31 00:01:34,928 --> 00:01:37,863 Within our community, it shattered a lot of people. 32 00:01:44,204 --> 00:01:46,905 Officer gillet: At 4:30 am 33 00:01:46,907 --> 00:01:49,141 Kelly howland called the harrison county 34 00:01:49,143 --> 00:01:50,675 Sheriff's department 35 00:01:50,677 --> 00:01:53,478 From his job in louisville, kentucky, 36 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,013 And asked for us to do a welfare check 37 00:01:55,015 --> 00:01:57,850 That he couldn't get a hold of his wife. 38 00:01:57,852 --> 00:01:59,585 [radio chatter] 39 00:01:59,587 --> 00:02:02,187 Officer gillet: When I arrived at that location, 40 00:02:02,189 --> 00:02:05,558 The storm door was ajar 41 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,694 And the front door was open. 42 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:11,530 And there were smoke stain 43 00:02:11,532 --> 00:02:14,833 On the overhang above that front door 44 00:02:14,835 --> 00:02:17,002 And on the gutter. 45 00:02:17,004 --> 00:02:18,704 I entered the house. 46 00:02:20,908 --> 00:02:23,308 The house was pitch black. 47 00:02:23,310 --> 00:02:25,845 The only light I had was my flashlight. 48 00:02:27,348 --> 00:02:29,682 There's a smell of gasoline. 49 00:02:29,684 --> 00:02:32,517 Everything was covered in black soot. 50 00:02:32,519 --> 00:02:34,753 And there was dense black smoke 51 00:02:34,755 --> 00:02:36,955 About two foot 52 00:02:36,957 --> 00:02:39,224 Down from the ceiling. 53 00:02:39,226 --> 00:02:41,226 It was obviously that there had a fire 54 00:02:41,228 --> 00:02:43,429 Of some kind. 55 00:02:43,431 --> 00:02:46,332 I went up the steps to my left. 56 00:02:46,334 --> 00:02:49,033 I could see a person sitting in a doorway 57 00:02:49,035 --> 00:02:52,070 On the right-hand side of the hallway. 58 00:02:52,072 --> 00:02:54,005 Black soot covering her. 59 00:02:54,007 --> 00:02:55,874 Blood on her face. 60 00:02:55,876 --> 00:02:58,177 It was obvious she was deceased. 61 00:02:59,914 --> 00:03:02,647 I was understanding it might be a crime scene 62 00:03:02,649 --> 00:03:04,549 And everything you touch or move 63 00:03:04,551 --> 00:03:07,153 Could destroy evidence. 64 00:03:07,155 --> 00:03:08,453 I stepped over that body 65 00:03:08,455 --> 00:03:10,823 And went into the bedroom. 66 00:03:10,825 --> 00:03:13,259 And there's a female in bed. 67 00:03:13,261 --> 00:03:15,227 And she's dead also. 68 00:03:17,264 --> 00:03:19,331 Went back out into the hallway. 69 00:03:19,333 --> 00:03:21,333 Went into a bedroom. 70 00:03:21,335 --> 00:03:23,536 There's a little girl 71 00:03:23,538 --> 00:03:25,971 Laying on a bed covered in soot, 72 00:03:25,973 --> 00:03:28,374 Obviously deceased. 73 00:03:30,010 --> 00:03:32,377 I checked another bedroom 74 00:03:32,379 --> 00:03:34,480 And found a little boy... 75 00:03:36,050 --> 00:03:39,251 In between the bed and the wall. 76 00:03:39,253 --> 00:03:42,088 There was claw marks on the wall 77 00:03:42,090 --> 00:03:44,924 Where he had tried to escape. 78 00:03:44,926 --> 00:03:46,458 His handprints on the wall 79 00:03:46,460 --> 00:03:49,494 Told you that he struggled for his life 80 00:03:49,496 --> 00:03:51,897 Until life left his body. 81 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,833 I never saw anything like this 82 00:03:54,835 --> 00:03:58,002 In my life experiences ever. 83 00:03:58,004 --> 00:03:59,571 It gives me cold feels to sit here 84 00:03:59,573 --> 00:04:02,007 And think about that little baby 85 00:04:02,009 --> 00:04:04,609 Trying to fight his way out 86 00:04:04,611 --> 00:04:06,411 Of that smoke. 87 00:04:06,413 --> 00:04:09,281 I hope what little time I have left on this earth 88 00:04:09,283 --> 00:04:11,650 I never seen anything like it again. 89 00:04:12,819 --> 00:04:14,420 Went back down the hallway and outside, 90 00:04:14,422 --> 00:04:17,390 And brian byrne was there. 91 00:04:17,392 --> 00:04:19,391 Sgt. Byrne: This was this badass vietnam 92 00:04:19,393 --> 00:04:21,626 Vet cop who obviously doesn't get flustered 93 00:04:21,628 --> 00:04:23,695 Or anything, and you could see he was pale 94 00:04:23,697 --> 00:04:25,497 And he was visibly upset. 95 00:04:25,499 --> 00:04:28,500 He's like, "crime scene, detectives, coroner." 96 00:04:28,502 --> 00:04:30,336 So I asked dispatch to go ahead 97 00:04:30,338 --> 00:04:32,604 And contact the sheriff, contact detectives, 98 00:04:32,606 --> 00:04:34,373 Contact the coroner, and continue 99 00:04:34,375 --> 00:04:35,907 The fire department, everybody. 100 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:40,279 And we started to set up the crime scene. 101 00:04:40,281 --> 00:04:42,514 Officer gillet: At that time, the state police 102 00:04:42,516 --> 00:04:45,284 Came in to assist with scene techs, 103 00:04:45,286 --> 00:04:47,452 Including state police detectors. 104 00:04:47,454 --> 00:04:48,987 [sirens wailing] 105 00:04:48,989 --> 00:04:50,555 Sgt. Byrne: After the fire department got there, 106 00:04:50,557 --> 00:04:53,058 The fire departments and paramedics 107 00:04:53,060 --> 00:04:55,661 -Entered the residence. -Det. Weisman: At this point, 108 00:04:55,663 --> 00:04:59,397 We had four deceased victims. 109 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:02,000 It seemed the two children had succumbed 110 00:05:02,002 --> 00:05:03,836 To smoke inhalation. 111 00:05:05,072 --> 00:05:06,472 The paramedics indicated 112 00:05:06,474 --> 00:05:10,709 That the two adult female victims 113 00:05:10,711 --> 00:05:13,546 Had gunshots to their heads. 114 00:05:15,682 --> 00:05:17,416 Det. Gibson: With the gunshot wounds, 115 00:05:17,418 --> 00:05:20,652 We knew we had a murder investigation. 116 00:05:22,757 --> 00:05:24,422 Sgt. Byrne: At that point, there's a blue car 117 00:05:24,424 --> 00:05:26,659 That showed up on the driveway. 118 00:05:26,661 --> 00:05:28,259 The driver jumps out. 119 00:05:28,261 --> 00:05:29,861 He sees what we're doing, 120 00:05:29,863 --> 00:05:32,764 And he tries to run past us into the house. 121 00:05:32,766 --> 00:05:35,567 And gilley and I both stopped and grabbed him. 122 00:05:35,569 --> 00:05:37,569 Told him he's going in the house. 123 00:05:37,571 --> 00:05:40,705 Officer gillet: I asked him who he was, 124 00:05:40,707 --> 00:05:44,175 And he said, "that's my family." 125 00:05:44,177 --> 00:05:46,044 Det. Weisman: The husband, kelly holland, 126 00:05:46,046 --> 00:05:48,447 Had been unable to get a hold of his wife. 127 00:05:48,449 --> 00:05:50,515 That he had tried to call the residence several times 128 00:05:50,517 --> 00:05:52,184 And there was no answer. 129 00:05:52,186 --> 00:05:53,853 Det. Gibson: Kelly stated he had worked nights 130 00:05:53,855 --> 00:05:56,054 With the kroger distribution center 131 00:05:56,056 --> 00:05:57,990 In louisville, kentucky. 132 00:05:57,992 --> 00:05:59,657 Officer gillet: We told him the persons in there 133 00:05:59,659 --> 00:06:01,594 Were all deceased. 134 00:06:01,596 --> 00:06:03,829 And kelly gets on his hands and knees, 135 00:06:03,831 --> 00:06:07,065 And he starts retching and vomiting. 136 00:06:07,067 --> 00:06:08,867 There's really no words 137 00:06:08,869 --> 00:06:11,703 That can explain truly what it means 138 00:06:11,705 --> 00:06:13,738 That he's lost his family. 139 00:06:15,476 --> 00:06:18,343 Det. Gibson: We learned that the younger adult female 140 00:06:18,345 --> 00:06:21,580 Was summer holland, the wife of kelly holland, 141 00:06:21,582 --> 00:06:23,014 Who lived at the residence 142 00:06:23,016 --> 00:06:26,552 With her husband and her two kids. 143 00:06:26,554 --> 00:06:29,988 They were the two deceased children. 144 00:06:29,990 --> 00:06:33,091 Det. Weisman: The woman found slumped in the doorway 145 00:06:33,093 --> 00:06:35,292 Was summer holland's mother, 146 00:06:35,294 --> 00:06:37,129 Donna daley. 147 00:06:39,433 --> 00:06:43,635 Dorinda: My mom, donna, was a good mom. 148 00:06:43,637 --> 00:06:45,103 She worked hard. 149 00:06:45,105 --> 00:06:47,172 She provided for us, 150 00:06:47,174 --> 00:06:49,174 Protected us. 151 00:06:49,176 --> 00:06:51,843 Everything a mom should be. 152 00:06:51,845 --> 00:06:56,047 Summer, growing up, was a firecracker. 153 00:06:56,049 --> 00:06:58,283 She was mischievous 154 00:06:58,285 --> 00:07:00,218 But she was mostly just spunky, 155 00:07:00,220 --> 00:07:02,354 And no matter what she did, 156 00:07:02,356 --> 00:07:04,389 We loved her. 157 00:07:04,391 --> 00:07:06,991 Mom and summer were always together. 158 00:07:06,993 --> 00:07:09,127 And mom was there for the births 159 00:07:09,129 --> 00:07:12,298 Of both her kids dillian and marissa. 160 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,201 Dillian is my little clown. 161 00:07:16,203 --> 00:07:18,170 I love him to death. 162 00:07:19,539 --> 00:07:20,873 He had this smile 163 00:07:20,875 --> 00:07:23,875 That just would lighten up the room. 164 00:07:23,877 --> 00:07:26,878 And he'd stick his little tongue out 165 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,615 And be just like this little goofball. 166 00:07:30,551 --> 00:07:33,485 Marissa was beautiful. 167 00:07:33,487 --> 00:07:36,622 She used to look like a little china doll. 168 00:07:36,624 --> 00:07:40,024 She had a little attitude like her mama, 169 00:07:40,026 --> 00:07:42,595 Full of smiles. 170 00:07:42,597 --> 00:07:45,431 Both of the children just-- 171 00:07:45,433 --> 00:07:48,766 They didn't have a care in the world. 172 00:07:48,768 --> 00:07:51,703 Summer worked. Mom babysitted. 173 00:07:51,705 --> 00:07:54,973 They worked together to raise the kids. 174 00:07:56,977 --> 00:08:00,378 And then summer met kelly. 175 00:08:00,380 --> 00:08:03,248 About six months into their relationship, 176 00:08:03,250 --> 00:08:06,184 They-they started getting really serious. 177 00:08:06,186 --> 00:08:08,987 They did wind up getting married. 178 00:08:08,989 --> 00:08:11,189 Grace: Everyone saw kelly holland 179 00:08:11,191 --> 00:08:13,459 And summer holland as just head over heels 180 00:08:13,461 --> 00:08:15,093 Over each other. 181 00:08:15,095 --> 00:08:16,861 The minister who married them said 182 00:08:16,863 --> 00:08:19,664 That they were just so in love. 183 00:08:19,666 --> 00:08:21,266 Det. Gibson: From what I could gather, he had 184 00:08:21,268 --> 00:08:23,935 A close relationship with the children. 185 00:08:23,937 --> 00:08:25,403 I didn't learn they were stepchildren 186 00:08:25,405 --> 00:08:28,406 Till probably 24 hours into the investigation. 187 00:08:28,408 --> 00:08:30,275 Grace: Everyone said that kelly holland 188 00:08:30,277 --> 00:08:34,679 Was kind and caring to the two children, 189 00:08:34,681 --> 00:08:38,884 And he was more than happy to have a family. 190 00:08:38,886 --> 00:08:40,585 Dorinda: After they got married, 191 00:08:40,587 --> 00:08:43,421 They started their life in corydon, 192 00:08:43,423 --> 00:08:45,957 Kelly, summer, dillian, and marissa, 193 00:08:45,959 --> 00:08:49,161 In a nice tri-level house. 194 00:08:50,163 --> 00:08:52,096 That was several months 195 00:08:52,098 --> 00:08:53,899 Before all this happened. 196 00:08:53,901 --> 00:08:55,534 [phone rings] 197 00:08:55,536 --> 00:08:56,834 Dorinda: The next thing I knew 198 00:08:56,836 --> 00:08:59,304 I was getting a phone call 199 00:08:59,306 --> 00:09:00,840 From the police department 200 00:09:00,842 --> 00:09:04,043 Saying that there was a fire in her house. 201 00:09:07,581 --> 00:09:09,881 This was horrific news 202 00:09:09,883 --> 00:09:12,250 For my family 203 00:09:12,252 --> 00:09:15,587 Because not only did we lose our mother 204 00:09:15,589 --> 00:09:17,523 And our baby sister 205 00:09:17,525 --> 00:09:21,527 And the littlest niece and nephew of our family. 206 00:09:21,529 --> 00:09:25,129 We lost three generations 207 00:09:25,131 --> 00:09:26,999 In one night. 208 00:09:30,504 --> 00:09:32,136 I was in shock. 209 00:09:32,138 --> 00:09:34,539 Summer didn't have any enemies. 210 00:09:34,541 --> 00:09:37,276 And then I was just like in my head going, 211 00:09:37,278 --> 00:09:40,111 "who-who could do this? 212 00:09:40,113 --> 00:09:42,146 Why take the whole family?" 213 00:09:42,148 --> 00:09:44,449 I wanted answers. 214 00:09:45,553 --> 00:09:47,418 [suspenseful music playing] 215 00:09:47,420 --> 00:09:49,554 Det. Weisman: Sometime afternoon 1:00, 2:00, 216 00:09:49,556 --> 00:09:52,891 The officers on the scene searched the residence. 217 00:09:52,893 --> 00:09:54,660 Two nine-millimeter casings 218 00:09:54,662 --> 00:09:56,461 Had been found in the bedroom 219 00:09:57,898 --> 00:09:59,364 And a nine-millimeter round 220 00:09:59,366 --> 00:10:02,034 Was recovered from underneath the bed. 221 00:10:04,971 --> 00:10:06,204 Det. Gibson: The fire marshal stated 222 00:10:06,206 --> 00:10:07,972 There were signs of arson. 223 00:10:09,509 --> 00:10:12,912 You could see that there was an obvious 224 00:10:12,914 --> 00:10:16,014 Fire pattern that started from the downstairs 225 00:10:16,016 --> 00:10:17,382 Living room 226 00:10:17,384 --> 00:10:19,317 And went up the staircase 227 00:10:19,319 --> 00:10:20,952 Indicating pour pattern 228 00:10:20,954 --> 00:10:22,854 For some kind of accelerant. 229 00:10:25,192 --> 00:10:28,326 The reason the residents did not completely burn 230 00:10:28,328 --> 00:10:30,361 Was because the fire had burned 231 00:10:30,363 --> 00:10:32,196 All the oxygen in the air, 232 00:10:32,198 --> 00:10:33,932 Putting the fire out. 233 00:10:35,870 --> 00:10:38,002 Det. Gibson: That day, we were surprised 234 00:10:38,004 --> 00:10:41,307 To learn that the night before 235 00:10:41,309 --> 00:10:42,874 The harrison county sheriff's department 236 00:10:42,876 --> 00:10:45,110 Had responded to the holland residence, 237 00:10:46,212 --> 00:10:47,712 They met with summer. 238 00:10:47,714 --> 00:10:49,614 She had made a complaint against some neighbors 239 00:10:49,616 --> 00:10:51,850 That she was concerned and scared about 240 00:10:51,852 --> 00:10:55,687 That lived in the adjoining property. 241 00:10:55,689 --> 00:10:57,456 Dorinda: Summer had been having some troubles 242 00:10:57,458 --> 00:10:59,424 With the neighbor shooting guns 243 00:10:59,426 --> 00:11:01,559 Up towards the house, 244 00:11:01,561 --> 00:11:03,561 Then actually penetrating 245 00:11:03,563 --> 00:11:05,697 The siding on the house. 246 00:11:07,335 --> 00:11:09,033 It kind of escalated 247 00:11:09,035 --> 00:11:12,404 So summer called the police. 248 00:11:12,406 --> 00:11:14,038 Officer gillet: Just the night before, 249 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,074 I had been dispatched 250 00:11:15,076 --> 00:11:17,643 To the same house 251 00:11:17,645 --> 00:11:20,344 Because of disruptive neighbors. 252 00:11:20,346 --> 00:11:23,682 Being called to this house 24 hours apart... 253 00:11:25,185 --> 00:11:26,852 Seemed very strange. 254 00:11:28,488 --> 00:11:31,022 Det. Gibson: So we did wanna talk to these neighbors. 255 00:11:35,696 --> 00:11:37,795 Grace: I did find some court records 256 00:11:37,797 --> 00:11:39,798 That indicated that summer holland 257 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,800 Had some entanglements 258 00:11:41,802 --> 00:11:44,135 With her ex-boyfriend. 259 00:11:44,137 --> 00:11:45,737 Det. Gibson: It appeared there could have been 260 00:11:45,739 --> 00:11:48,706 Some past violence or even some jealousy 261 00:11:48,708 --> 00:11:50,642 That her and kelly had married. 262 00:11:50,644 --> 00:11:53,811 Det. Weisman: We got a phone call from a guardsman, 263 00:11:53,813 --> 00:11:56,748 And he said that he had information. 264 00:11:56,750 --> 00:11:58,649 Det. Gibson: This guardsman was able to produce 265 00:11:58,651 --> 00:12:00,318 Some of the ammunition 266 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,687 Along with the pistol. 267 00:12:02,689 --> 00:12:03,956 Grace: As soon as they heard that, 268 00:12:03,958 --> 00:12:13,164 They were like, "wow." 269 00:12:13,166 --> 00:12:15,967 Music playing] det. Gibson: There had been a quadruple homicide. 270 00:12:17,937 --> 00:12:20,271 You're talking three generations. 271 00:12:20,273 --> 00:12:22,240 A whole family wiped out, 272 00:12:22,242 --> 00:12:24,409 Summer holland and her two children 273 00:12:24,411 --> 00:12:26,845 And summer holland's mother. 274 00:12:28,482 --> 00:12:30,715 Det. Weisman: The two children had succumbed 275 00:12:30,717 --> 00:12:33,518 To smoke inhalation. 276 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,587 And on donna daley and summer holland, 277 00:12:36,589 --> 00:12:37,989 It was due to the injuries 278 00:12:37,991 --> 00:12:40,958 From being shot in the head. 279 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,793 The husband, kelly holland, 280 00:12:42,795 --> 00:12:44,795 Had called into the sheriff's office 281 00:12:44,797 --> 00:12:47,231 'cause he hadn't been able to get a hold of his wife, 282 00:12:47,233 --> 00:12:49,233 And he was concerned because they apparently 283 00:12:49,235 --> 00:12:51,302 Had problems with neighbors. 284 00:12:52,673 --> 00:12:55,239 The night before summer called the-- 285 00:12:55,241 --> 00:12:57,074 The sheriff's office. 286 00:12:57,076 --> 00:12:58,877 Summer had made a complaint against them 287 00:12:58,879 --> 00:13:00,611 For loud noise. 288 00:13:00,613 --> 00:13:02,281 The sheriff's department responded 289 00:13:02,283 --> 00:13:04,415 To the holland residents 'cause summer holland 290 00:13:04,417 --> 00:13:07,118 Felt a little threatened and a little scared, 291 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,821 So we did wanna talk to these neighbors 292 00:13:09,823 --> 00:13:11,323 About the homicides. 293 00:13:12,927 --> 00:13:14,326 During--in the meantime, 294 00:13:14,328 --> 00:13:16,594 Like in all criminal investigations 295 00:13:16,596 --> 00:13:18,629 Where the wife is killed, 296 00:13:18,631 --> 00:13:21,867 Your first primary suspect should be the husband. 297 00:13:21,869 --> 00:13:24,469 He was gonna be heavily scrutinized. 298 00:13:26,207 --> 00:13:27,840 Det. Gibson: At this point in the investigation, 299 00:13:27,842 --> 00:13:29,740 Myself and the detective clements 300 00:13:29,742 --> 00:13:31,776 Interviewed summer's husband, 301 00:13:31,778 --> 00:13:33,110 Kelly holland, 302 00:13:33,112 --> 00:13:35,780 At the residence of his mother. 303 00:13:35,782 --> 00:13:37,415 There was a lot of emotion. 304 00:13:37,417 --> 00:13:39,584 You know, someone had just murdered his wife, 305 00:13:39,586 --> 00:13:41,720 His mother-in-law, and stepkids 306 00:13:41,722 --> 00:13:44,722 So you feel extremely bad for kelly. 307 00:13:46,326 --> 00:13:48,360 Det. Weisman: As a police officer, you have to 308 00:13:48,362 --> 00:13:51,629 Kind of detach yourself from your feelings 309 00:13:51,631 --> 00:13:53,197 When you're doing these kind of cases 310 00:13:53,199 --> 00:13:55,132 And go on with your job 311 00:13:55,134 --> 00:13:57,035 And do what has to be done. 312 00:13:57,037 --> 00:13:59,904 But, at this point, we needed to check off the list 313 00:13:59,906 --> 00:14:04,576 To make sure that kelly was not involved. 314 00:14:04,578 --> 00:14:06,911 Det. Gibson: Because we knew we had accelerants 315 00:14:06,913 --> 00:14:10,748 Involved in this crime, standard operating procedure, 316 00:14:10,750 --> 00:14:14,719 We asked kelly if he would let us have his clothing. 317 00:14:14,721 --> 00:14:16,187 He stated that he would. 318 00:14:16,189 --> 00:14:18,590 And we took this clothing from him 319 00:14:18,592 --> 00:14:21,392 For test. 320 00:14:21,394 --> 00:14:24,161 We asked kelly, "any problems with anyone? 321 00:14:24,163 --> 00:14:26,365 Who would have wanted to do this?" 322 00:14:26,367 --> 00:14:28,332 He did say about the neighbors, 323 00:14:28,334 --> 00:14:30,468 But he really didn't have any good leads 324 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:32,737 For us to go on. 325 00:14:32,739 --> 00:14:34,605 I asked kelly if he owned 326 00:14:34,607 --> 00:14:36,907 Or possessed a firearm. He said he did not. 327 00:14:36,909 --> 00:14:40,545 He did not own a firearm, did not have access to one. 328 00:14:40,547 --> 00:14:42,847 Kelly stated he had worked the night before 329 00:14:42,849 --> 00:14:44,983 At the kroger distribution center 330 00:14:44,985 --> 00:14:46,317 In louisville, kentucky 331 00:14:46,319 --> 00:14:50,021 At the time the murder happened. 332 00:14:50,023 --> 00:14:52,323 We felt he was telling the truth 333 00:14:52,325 --> 00:14:54,726 So, at that time, the interview was ended. 334 00:14:58,031 --> 00:15:01,200 Kelly was a very likeable guy. 335 00:15:01,202 --> 00:15:02,867 He was clean-cut 336 00:15:02,869 --> 00:15:06,204 And very low-key, soft spoken. 337 00:15:06,206 --> 00:15:07,471 He was a veteran. 338 00:15:07,473 --> 00:15:09,273 He was in the army reserve. 339 00:15:09,275 --> 00:15:10,675 He worked every day, 340 00:15:10,677 --> 00:15:13,979 Provided for his wife and his stepkids. 341 00:15:13,981 --> 00:15:15,614 Grace: He had been a high school wrestler 342 00:15:15,616 --> 00:15:17,214 And a football player. 343 00:15:17,216 --> 00:15:19,351 Not a troublemaker. 344 00:15:19,353 --> 00:15:21,152 No juvenile delinquency. 345 00:15:21,154 --> 00:15:22,887 Nothing that would have pointed 346 00:15:22,889 --> 00:15:26,891 To some violence or some criminal past at all. 347 00:15:26,893 --> 00:15:29,995 All he'd had was a speeding ticket. 348 00:15:29,997 --> 00:15:31,763 Det. Gibson: The prosecutor at the time 349 00:15:31,765 --> 00:15:34,565 Of harrison county told me, he said, 350 00:15:34,567 --> 00:15:37,435 "you're gonna have to find out who did this. It wasn't kelly." 351 00:15:37,437 --> 00:15:40,771 He said, "I coached him in little league baseball, 352 00:15:40,773 --> 00:15:42,173 And he's a good guy. 353 00:15:42,175 --> 00:15:44,643 He'd never do anything like this." 354 00:15:47,881 --> 00:15:51,415 We felt that we had to prove or disapproved his story, 355 00:15:51,417 --> 00:15:54,185 So we went to the kentucky distribution center 356 00:15:54,187 --> 00:15:55,787 For kroger's, 357 00:15:55,789 --> 00:15:57,455 Interviewed kelly's supervisor, 358 00:15:57,457 --> 00:15:59,590 And--and checked his work schedules. 359 00:15:59,592 --> 00:16:01,959 It showed that he was there that night 360 00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:04,195 When these homicides had happened. 361 00:16:05,732 --> 00:16:07,598 Sgt. Byrne: We were able to confirm kelly's alibi 362 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:08,999 That he had worked that night 363 00:16:09,001 --> 00:16:11,069 At the kroger distribution center 364 00:16:11,071 --> 00:16:14,206 So we had to keep looking for other leads. 365 00:16:16,010 --> 00:16:17,475 Det. Gibson: At that point in time 366 00:16:17,477 --> 00:16:19,011 We knew that the night before, 367 00:16:19,013 --> 00:16:20,612 Harrison county sheriff's department 368 00:16:20,614 --> 00:16:22,947 Had received a call from summer holland 369 00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:24,415 About the neighbors, 370 00:16:24,417 --> 00:16:27,184 And had responded into the residence 371 00:16:27,186 --> 00:16:30,088 And had also spoke to summer. 372 00:16:31,624 --> 00:16:33,224 Sgt. Byrne: Summer's sister, dorinda, 373 00:16:33,226 --> 00:16:35,626 Said that the neighbors had been shooting guns 374 00:16:35,628 --> 00:16:37,761 Next to her house and that some of the bullets 375 00:16:37,763 --> 00:16:40,532 Had actually struck summer's residence. 376 00:16:40,534 --> 00:16:42,401 [gunshot] 377 00:16:42,403 --> 00:16:44,602 Dorinda: They were rambunctious neighbors 378 00:16:44,604 --> 00:16:45,970 And kept popping off. 379 00:16:45,972 --> 00:16:48,472 And summer would go out and run her mouth 380 00:16:48,474 --> 00:16:51,409 'cause she had a bit of a mouth on her, 381 00:16:51,411 --> 00:16:53,611 And would yell, you know, down the street, 382 00:16:53,613 --> 00:16:55,813 "stop shooting up at my house, you know? 383 00:16:55,815 --> 00:16:58,883 You're gonna hit one of my kids." 384 00:16:58,885 --> 00:17:00,951 The commotion with the neighbors 385 00:17:00,953 --> 00:17:04,989 Escalated that night so summer called my mom 386 00:17:04,991 --> 00:17:08,392 And got my mom to come out there and stay with her 387 00:17:08,394 --> 00:17:10,428 In case something happened. 388 00:17:12,165 --> 00:17:13,731 Sgt. Byrne: The night before the murder, 389 00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:15,666 I was on duty and I was dispatched 390 00:17:15,668 --> 00:17:17,135 To a loud noise complaint 391 00:17:17,137 --> 00:17:20,438 At the holland residence. 392 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,006 Officer gillet: And we spoke to mrs. Holland 393 00:17:22,008 --> 00:17:23,775 And she was very, very upset. 394 00:17:23,777 --> 00:17:26,310 The neighbors were-- were loud and disruptive, 395 00:17:26,312 --> 00:17:28,613 And loud music and loud vehicles. 396 00:17:28,615 --> 00:17:30,582 Sgt. Byrne: Her husband wasn't there. 397 00:17:30,584 --> 00:17:32,416 Her husband worked nights. 398 00:17:32,418 --> 00:17:34,819 She seemed like a really nice, really sweet young lady. 399 00:17:34,821 --> 00:17:37,155 Mainly was just concerned for herself and her family. 400 00:17:37,157 --> 00:17:39,758 And we walked into the woods, 401 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,293 Which is a pretty good distance from the house, 402 00:17:42,295 --> 00:17:44,862 Found the neighbors who were having a party, 403 00:17:44,864 --> 00:17:47,298 And they were pretty loud. 404 00:17:47,300 --> 00:17:49,867 Officer gillet: They were having a very good time. 405 00:17:49,869 --> 00:17:52,536 Had a bonfire. 406 00:17:52,538 --> 00:17:54,205 Sgt. Byrne: And we talked to them 407 00:17:54,207 --> 00:17:55,973 And I said, "hey, man, there's been-- 408 00:17:55,975 --> 00:17:57,575 Been complaints. Go ahead and calm it down. 409 00:17:57,577 --> 00:17:59,377 We need you to respect your neighbors." 410 00:17:59,379 --> 00:18:00,878 Officer gillet: Oh, they didn't like it. 411 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:01,980 That's for sure. 412 00:18:01,982 --> 00:18:04,915 Well, they were upset that a person 413 00:18:04,917 --> 00:18:07,384 Who just moved into the neighborhood 414 00:18:07,386 --> 00:18:09,121 Would call the police on them. 415 00:18:09,123 --> 00:18:11,923 Sgt. Byrne: A little over 24 hours later, 416 00:18:11,925 --> 00:18:22,667 Summer and her family were victims of a homicide. 417 00:18:22,669 --> 00:18:24,969 Music playing] det. Gibson: We start getting information together 418 00:18:24,971 --> 00:18:27,004 To interview the neighbors 419 00:18:27,006 --> 00:18:29,373 Who lived behind the holland's 420 00:18:29,375 --> 00:18:33,277 'cause they had problems the night before. 421 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:34,879 Sgt. Byrne: Summer was complaining 422 00:18:34,881 --> 00:18:36,881 Because her next-door neighbors were in... 423 00:18:36,883 --> 00:18:39,583 The woods behind them having a bonfire party 424 00:18:39,585 --> 00:18:41,619 And you could hear it from the house. 425 00:18:41,621 --> 00:18:44,054 Officer gillet: We went back on the neighbor's property 426 00:18:44,056 --> 00:18:47,091 And had a discussion with them and warned them. 427 00:18:47,093 --> 00:18:50,494 They were very upset that we were there. I asked them, 428 00:18:50,496 --> 00:18:52,429 I said, "please don't make us come back here 429 00:18:52,431 --> 00:18:53,931 Over this again." 430 00:18:56,169 --> 00:18:58,370 Det. Gibson: The next day, when we talked to the neighbors 431 00:18:58,372 --> 00:18:59,971 About the homicides, 432 00:18:59,973 --> 00:19:02,973 They stated they had had a bonfire, a cookout, 433 00:19:02,975 --> 00:19:06,710 But they were all gone or in bed by midnight that night 434 00:19:06,712 --> 00:19:09,814 And had never made contact with the hollands. 435 00:19:11,084 --> 00:19:13,452 But summer had called the police on them 436 00:19:13,454 --> 00:19:15,353 The night before. 437 00:19:15,355 --> 00:19:19,591 People do not like having the police called on them. 438 00:19:19,593 --> 00:19:23,494 Were they upset enough to come over and commit murder? 439 00:19:25,732 --> 00:19:27,599 We ran them through ncic 440 00:19:27,601 --> 00:19:30,669 And also checked them for local warrants. 441 00:19:30,671 --> 00:19:33,338 Nothing was found on them. 442 00:19:33,340 --> 00:19:35,806 So we had to continue with our investigation, 443 00:19:35,808 --> 00:19:37,442 Looking somewhere else. 444 00:19:37,444 --> 00:19:41,279 However, we kept them as a potential suspect. 445 00:19:43,616 --> 00:19:45,549 At this point in the investigation, 446 00:19:45,551 --> 00:19:48,552 We decided it would be best to canvass the neighborhood 447 00:19:48,554 --> 00:19:50,087 To see if any of the neighbors 448 00:19:50,089 --> 00:19:53,391 Had possibly heard or seen anything. 449 00:19:53,393 --> 00:19:56,026 Any neighbors seen any suspicious vehicles, 450 00:19:56,028 --> 00:19:57,528 Seen anyone coming and going, 451 00:19:57,530 --> 00:20:00,098 And, in this case, heard any gunshots, 452 00:20:01,234 --> 00:20:03,634 But nothing really substantial came 453 00:20:03,636 --> 00:20:05,069 From the neighborhood canvas. 454 00:20:06,739 --> 00:20:08,639 You know, you got people living in the community 455 00:20:08,641 --> 00:20:10,641 That are thinking, 456 00:20:10,643 --> 00:20:12,576 "is it gonna happen at my house next?" 457 00:20:12,578 --> 00:20:15,312 So we've got a job to do 458 00:20:15,314 --> 00:20:16,715 Before it happens again. 459 00:20:16,717 --> 00:20:19,851 [dramatic music playing] 460 00:20:21,454 --> 00:20:24,723 Through the week, we're not getting much information 461 00:20:24,725 --> 00:20:27,359 From the police at all. 462 00:20:27,361 --> 00:20:31,162 They just said they were talking to various suspects. 463 00:20:33,399 --> 00:20:36,767 I did find some court records in another county 464 00:20:36,769 --> 00:20:39,671 Where there was either a protective order 465 00:20:39,673 --> 00:20:44,575 Or some other court-related document 466 00:20:44,577 --> 00:20:48,212 That indicated that summer had some entanglements 467 00:20:48,214 --> 00:20:49,981 With a boyfriend. 468 00:20:51,383 --> 00:20:54,219 Det. Weisman: Summer had-- had a acquaintance 469 00:20:54,221 --> 00:20:56,220 With a male subject. 470 00:20:56,222 --> 00:20:59,824 She had tried to file a protective order. 471 00:20:59,826 --> 00:21:01,358 Det. Gibson: It appeared that it was possible 472 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:03,227 There could have been some past violence 473 00:21:03,229 --> 00:21:05,529 Or even some jealousy 474 00:21:05,531 --> 00:21:07,832 That her and kelly had married, 475 00:21:07,834 --> 00:21:10,601 And that was something we had to consider. 476 00:21:13,473 --> 00:21:17,441 [dramatic music playing] 477 00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:20,311 Dorinda: The family made arrangements. 478 00:21:20,313 --> 00:21:22,847 We had a three-and-a-half-mile-long 479 00:21:22,849 --> 00:21:26,584 Procession from corydon 480 00:21:26,586 --> 00:21:29,220 All the way back to the gravesite. 481 00:21:30,990 --> 00:21:33,057 So you had mom on one side, 482 00:21:33,059 --> 00:21:34,693 You had summer on one side, 483 00:21:34,695 --> 00:21:38,128 And then you had dillian and marissa in the middle. 484 00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:41,733 And that's how they were laid to rest. 485 00:21:41,735 --> 00:21:44,802 They had a whole life still to live. 486 00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:48,339 It's not fair to family. It's not fair to her. 487 00:21:48,341 --> 00:21:51,876 It's not fair to her little babies. 488 00:21:51,878 --> 00:21:54,879 Officer gillet: I'm not sure what type of person 489 00:21:54,881 --> 00:21:57,114 Would kill babies. 490 00:21:57,116 --> 00:21:59,149 Twenty years later, my mind still 491 00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:01,885 Doesn't accept that thought. 492 00:22:01,887 --> 00:22:04,689 I struggle with that thought. 493 00:22:04,691 --> 00:22:06,357 Dorinda: The hurt is there, 494 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,327 And it's never ever gonna go away. 495 00:22:12,064 --> 00:22:15,133 [dramatic music playing] 496 00:22:19,439 --> 00:22:21,505 Grace: There had been some past relationship 497 00:22:21,507 --> 00:22:24,875 Where an angry boyfriend came after summer. 498 00:22:24,877 --> 00:22:28,613 I questioned the police about this boyfriend. 499 00:22:28,615 --> 00:22:31,381 They apparently have reconciled 500 00:22:31,383 --> 00:22:34,118 So investigators did not get the sense 501 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,321 That they were in any way embattled. 502 00:22:37,823 --> 00:22:39,858 Det. Gibson: Detective clemons has spoken to him 503 00:22:39,860 --> 00:22:42,659 And we concluded that the ex-boyfriend 504 00:22:42,661 --> 00:22:44,995 Didn't have anything to do with these murders. 505 00:22:44,997 --> 00:22:48,099 [dramatic music playing] 506 00:22:52,471 --> 00:22:54,072 [phone ringing] 507 00:22:54,074 --> 00:22:55,606 Det. Weisman: Later in the week, 508 00:22:55,608 --> 00:22:58,610 We got a phone call from a guardsman 509 00:22:58,612 --> 00:23:01,211 From a national guard unit over in kentucky 510 00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:04,548 Where kelly was a guardsman. 511 00:23:05,684 --> 00:23:07,018 He was a little concerned 512 00:23:07,020 --> 00:23:09,020 With what he'd seen on the news 513 00:23:09,022 --> 00:23:10,621 And what happened to-- 514 00:23:10,623 --> 00:23:13,257 With kelly holland's family. 515 00:23:13,259 --> 00:23:16,026 And he said that he had information 516 00:23:16,028 --> 00:23:18,630 On kelly holland. 517 00:23:18,632 --> 00:23:22,900 Det. Gibson: We interviewed that guardsman in a phone call. 518 00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:26,970 He stated to me that he wanted me to know 519 00:23:26,972 --> 00:23:29,574 That two days prior to this, 520 00:23:31,712 --> 00:23:34,111 He had loaned kelly a firearm. 521 00:23:34,113 --> 00:23:37,214 [dramatic music playing] 522 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,985 Kelly had stated to us 523 00:23:41,987 --> 00:23:44,389 He did not own or have access to a firearm. 524 00:23:45,491 --> 00:23:47,324 It appeared to me 525 00:23:47,326 --> 00:23:50,027 Kelly was not telling the truth. 526 00:23:52,665 --> 00:23:54,399 I asked this guardsman if he would 527 00:23:54,401 --> 00:23:56,267 Make a phone call to kelly. 528 00:23:56,269 --> 00:23:57,869 We want him to ask him about 529 00:23:57,871 --> 00:23:59,803 Where the firearm was. 530 00:23:59,805 --> 00:24:02,841 And, you know, we got him on a recorded telephone line 531 00:24:02,843 --> 00:24:06,444 Stating that he does have this firearm. 532 00:24:06,446 --> 00:24:09,347 Det. Weisman: We went back to the kroger distribution center. 533 00:24:09,349 --> 00:24:11,483 We interviewed people 534 00:24:11,485 --> 00:24:13,283 Who was working with him on that shift. 535 00:24:13,285 --> 00:24:14,686 Det. Gibson: I asked one of the gentleman, 536 00:24:14,688 --> 00:24:17,287 "is there any someone could slip out 537 00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:20,758 And be gone an hour or two and come back?" 538 00:24:27,099 --> 00:24:30,200 [dramatic music playing] four deaths in one household. 539 00:24:30,202 --> 00:24:33,237 A community so safe where everybody knows each other, 540 00:24:33,239 --> 00:24:35,572 Everybody trusts each other. 541 00:24:35,574 --> 00:24:37,441 That's the unsettling part 542 00:24:37,443 --> 00:24:41,245 With three generations killed in a single night. 543 00:24:43,383 --> 00:24:44,915 Det. Weisman: We got a phone call 544 00:24:44,917 --> 00:24:46,450 From a national guardsman 545 00:24:46,452 --> 00:24:48,887 Over in kentucky where kelly holland, 546 00:24:48,889 --> 00:24:52,056 The husband of the female victim, 547 00:24:52,058 --> 00:24:54,124 Was a guardsman at duty. 548 00:24:54,126 --> 00:24:55,859 Kelly had told him that 549 00:24:55,861 --> 00:24:58,462 There were wild dogs in the neighborhood. 550 00:24:58,464 --> 00:25:00,532 He wanted to borrow a firearm 551 00:25:00,534 --> 00:25:04,001 To protect himself and his family. 552 00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:06,003 His guard friend told him, 553 00:25:06,005 --> 00:25:09,274 "yeah, I got a handgun. I'll let you borrow that." 554 00:25:09,276 --> 00:25:10,875 So this has given us a little more information 555 00:25:10,877 --> 00:25:12,276 To think that maybe kelly 556 00:25:12,278 --> 00:25:14,545 Had something to do with this. 557 00:25:18,218 --> 00:25:20,851 At that time, I asked this guardsman 558 00:25:20,853 --> 00:25:22,353 If he would allow me 559 00:25:22,355 --> 00:25:25,088 And harrison county detective roy weisman 560 00:25:25,090 --> 00:25:27,391 To accompany him to his house. 561 00:25:27,393 --> 00:25:30,495 We wanted him to make a phone call to kelly. 562 00:25:31,431 --> 00:25:33,430 He stated that he would. 563 00:25:33,432 --> 00:25:35,967 And during the phone call, we really want him to ask him 564 00:25:35,969 --> 00:25:38,069 About the firearm he had loaned him 565 00:25:38,071 --> 00:25:40,137 And where the firearm was. 566 00:25:40,139 --> 00:25:43,340 Kelly made a statement to him that, yes, 567 00:25:43,342 --> 00:25:46,009 He did still have his firearm. 568 00:25:46,011 --> 00:25:48,912 So--and we've got kelly saying to us 569 00:25:48,914 --> 00:25:50,681 He doesn't have a firearm, 570 00:25:50,683 --> 00:25:53,551 And now we got him on a recorded telephone line 571 00:25:53,553 --> 00:25:57,721 Stating that he does have this firearm. 572 00:25:57,723 --> 00:26:00,390 As soon as they heard that, they were like, "wow." 573 00:26:00,392 --> 00:26:01,592 You could tell that they-- 574 00:26:01,594 --> 00:26:03,894 This was a huge piece of evidence. 575 00:26:03,896 --> 00:26:05,796 Det. Weisman: This guardsman was able to produce 576 00:26:05,798 --> 00:26:08,132 Some of the ammunition that 577 00:26:08,134 --> 00:26:11,469 He had given kelly along with the pistol. 578 00:26:11,471 --> 00:26:13,037 Det. Gibson: What was significant about that 579 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:15,340 Was two nine-millimeter casings 580 00:26:15,342 --> 00:26:17,008 Were recovered in the residence 581 00:26:17,010 --> 00:26:20,878 Where summer holland and donna daley had been shot. 582 00:26:23,482 --> 00:26:25,249 In the meantime, the fire marshal 583 00:26:25,251 --> 00:26:27,886 Was doing an investigation for the clothing 584 00:26:27,888 --> 00:26:31,155 That kelly had on that morning. 585 00:26:31,157 --> 00:26:33,458 And we met with the indiana fire marshal 586 00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:36,727 With a accelerant-sniffing k9 dog. 587 00:26:36,729 --> 00:26:39,163 We laid kelly's clothes out in different piles, 588 00:26:39,165 --> 00:26:40,565 His work overalls, his shoes, 589 00:26:40,567 --> 00:26:41,965 Different things. 590 00:26:41,967 --> 00:26:46,904 And the k9 did hit on both his coveralls 591 00:26:46,906 --> 00:26:50,240 And both of his shoes, so we knew that 592 00:26:50,242 --> 00:26:53,710 We've had accelerant on mr. Holland's clothes. 593 00:26:53,712 --> 00:26:56,680 [dramatic music playing] 594 00:26:58,050 --> 00:26:59,250 Det. Gibson: We sent the shell casings 595 00:26:59,252 --> 00:27:01,119 Found at the scene of the crime 596 00:27:01,121 --> 00:27:04,121 And also the shell casings obtained from the guardsman 597 00:27:04,123 --> 00:27:06,757 To the indiana state police crime lab. 598 00:27:09,095 --> 00:27:11,029 The shell casing at the crime scene 599 00:27:11,031 --> 00:27:13,263 Did match up with the shell casings 600 00:27:13,265 --> 00:27:15,265 That we obtained from the guardsman. 601 00:27:15,267 --> 00:27:17,401 It was starting to get stronger 602 00:27:17,403 --> 00:27:19,671 And stronger evidence against kelly. 603 00:27:19,673 --> 00:27:22,005 What we couldn't figure out was the motive. 604 00:27:22,007 --> 00:27:24,942 Why he would wanna kill his entire family. 605 00:27:24,944 --> 00:27:27,444 That part just didn't add up. 606 00:27:29,515 --> 00:27:30,681 At that time, 607 00:27:30,683 --> 00:27:32,750 We obtained another search warrant 608 00:27:32,752 --> 00:27:35,152 To reenter the residence of kelly holland 609 00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:37,354 To search for this firearm. 610 00:27:37,356 --> 00:27:39,656 No firearm was located. 611 00:27:39,658 --> 00:27:42,325 Grace: They don't know where the murder weapon is, 612 00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:45,062 But so much of the physical evidence 613 00:27:45,064 --> 00:27:49,833 Ties kelly holland to the crime scene. 614 00:27:49,835 --> 00:27:51,702 Det. Gibson: With the evidence starting to pile up 615 00:27:51,704 --> 00:27:53,003 Against kelly holland, 616 00:27:53,005 --> 00:27:55,305 We decided to recheck his alibi 617 00:27:55,307 --> 00:27:56,573 That he had worked all night 618 00:27:56,575 --> 00:27:59,711 At the kroger distribution center. 619 00:27:59,713 --> 00:28:01,111 Det. Weisman: We interviewed people 620 00:28:01,113 --> 00:28:03,947 Who was working with him on that shift. 621 00:28:03,949 --> 00:28:05,583 When we talk to his coworkers, 622 00:28:05,585 --> 00:28:07,517 A different side of kelly holland 623 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:09,253 Began to emerge. 624 00:28:09,255 --> 00:28:12,623 They talk about kelly could be hot and cold, 625 00:28:12,625 --> 00:28:15,727 Either moody and doesn't say anything to you 626 00:28:15,729 --> 00:28:18,396 Or he's talking your head off. 627 00:28:18,398 --> 00:28:20,063 A couple of the guys did mention that, 628 00:28:20,065 --> 00:28:22,266 Yeah, he had told them that he thought his wife, 629 00:28:22,268 --> 00:28:24,135 Summer, was cheating on him. 630 00:28:24,137 --> 00:28:26,971 And he even said to one of them he thought about, 631 00:28:26,973 --> 00:28:28,639 "I just thought to leave for work one night 632 00:28:28,641 --> 00:28:30,741 And I'd go to work, and go back home later 633 00:28:30,743 --> 00:28:32,409 And see what's going on." 634 00:28:32,411 --> 00:28:35,212 I asked one of the gentleman who I knew personally, 635 00:28:35,214 --> 00:28:39,416 "is there anyway someone could work here 636 00:28:39,418 --> 00:28:43,153 And slip out and be gone an hour or two and come back?" 637 00:28:43,155 --> 00:28:46,556 And he stated it depended on what job 638 00:28:46,558 --> 00:28:48,225 You were assigned that evening. 639 00:28:48,227 --> 00:28:50,161 [dramatic music playing] 640 00:28:50,163 --> 00:28:52,829 Det. Weisman: We found kelly holland 641 00:28:52,831 --> 00:28:56,266 Was not doing his usual job that night. 642 00:28:56,268 --> 00:28:59,403 That night he was doing what they called a porter job, 643 00:28:59,405 --> 00:29:03,207 Which was basically someone who cleans up messes, 644 00:29:03,209 --> 00:29:05,342 And so there's long periods of time there 645 00:29:05,344 --> 00:29:08,578 Where no one sees kelly. 646 00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:11,181 It would easy to leave out of this warehouse 647 00:29:11,183 --> 00:29:14,651 Out of a back dock bay and not be seen leaving 648 00:29:14,653 --> 00:29:16,854 Or seen coming back. 649 00:29:16,856 --> 00:29:18,855 Det. Gibson: So we knew it would be possible 650 00:29:18,857 --> 00:29:22,058 For him to leave and kill his family 651 00:29:22,060 --> 00:29:24,829 And return to work. 652 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:28,732 We had a lot of evidence piling up 653 00:29:28,734 --> 00:29:30,200 Against kelly holland, 654 00:29:30,202 --> 00:29:32,936 And we now had information that he would have had 655 00:29:32,938 --> 00:29:35,372 The opportunity to commit this crime. 656 00:29:36,543 --> 00:29:38,876 Det. Weisman: Because of the totality 657 00:29:38,878 --> 00:29:41,812 Of the evidence coming out against kelly, 658 00:29:41,814 --> 00:29:43,514 He was asked if he would consent 659 00:29:43,516 --> 00:29:45,382 To a polygraph, 660 00:29:45,384 --> 00:29:47,817 Which he did say he would take a polygraph. 661 00:29:47,819 --> 00:29:50,253 Det. Gibson: Polygraphs are not admissible in court 662 00:29:50,255 --> 00:29:52,656 But they are a good tool to use 663 00:29:52,658 --> 00:29:56,593 To eliminate someone or to gain information. 664 00:30:06,305 --> 00:30:07,905 Det. Gibson: The polygraph examiner 665 00:30:07,907 --> 00:30:12,376 Came out and told me his opinion was that... 666 00:30:12,378 --> 00:30:14,512 Kelly had failed every question 667 00:30:14,514 --> 00:30:18,415 Pertaining to the questions asked about the homicides. 668 00:30:18,417 --> 00:30:22,652 At that time, we went into the room where kelly was 669 00:30:22,654 --> 00:30:25,655 And just laid our case out to him. 670 00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:33,597 I thought, "now, we've got him. 671 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:35,031 Se music playing] det. Gibson: At this point in time, 672 00:30:35,033 --> 00:30:38,435 Kelly holland is a major suspect 673 00:30:38,437 --> 00:30:40,138 In the murder of his family. 674 00:30:40,140 --> 00:30:43,073 The idea that someone like this could wipe out a family, 675 00:30:43,075 --> 00:30:46,343 It was just extremely coldblooded. 676 00:30:46,345 --> 00:30:48,278 Det. Gibson: He had proven to be deceitful 677 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,547 On the polygraph examination. 678 00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:52,215 After the polygraph, 679 00:30:52,217 --> 00:30:54,885 Kelly stated that... 680 00:30:54,887 --> 00:30:57,087 He was telling the truth. 681 00:30:57,089 --> 00:30:59,756 I advised kelly again we had accelerants 682 00:30:59,758 --> 00:31:02,626 On his clothing. 683 00:31:02,628 --> 00:31:05,429 Det. Weisman: Kelly said he had taken a couple of gallon 684 00:31:05,431 --> 00:31:08,331 Windshield washer plastic bottles with him 685 00:31:08,333 --> 00:31:10,168 To work that day 'cause he was gonna stop 686 00:31:10,170 --> 00:31:12,603 And get gas 'cause he and summer 687 00:31:12,605 --> 00:31:14,504 Were gonna do yard work the next day 688 00:31:14,506 --> 00:31:16,740 And he was gonna burn trash in the sink hole in-- 689 00:31:16,742 --> 00:31:18,242 In the back of the property. 690 00:31:18,244 --> 00:31:19,943 Det. Gibson: He said when he was filling up 691 00:31:19,945 --> 00:31:21,344 The containers, some of the gas 692 00:31:21,346 --> 00:31:22,979 Had splashed on to him. 693 00:31:22,981 --> 00:31:25,616 That was the reason the dog hit on the accelerant. 694 00:31:25,618 --> 00:31:29,185 The fumes became too toxic in his vehicle 695 00:31:29,187 --> 00:31:32,022 So he stopped alongside the interstate 696 00:31:32,024 --> 00:31:34,192 And set the gas out. 697 00:31:34,194 --> 00:31:36,493 We sent troopers to search that area. 698 00:31:36,495 --> 00:31:39,296 However, we did not find any gasoline canisters 699 00:31:39,298 --> 00:31:41,298 Along that stretch of interstate. 700 00:31:42,868 --> 00:31:45,669 After detective clemons pointed out to him 701 00:31:45,671 --> 00:31:47,270 The evidence we had against him 702 00:31:47,272 --> 00:31:49,673 That he did kill his whole family. 703 00:31:49,675 --> 00:31:51,141 He didn't wanna be interviewed anymore 704 00:31:51,143 --> 00:31:57,347 And he wanted us to take him home. 705 00:31:57,349 --> 00:31:59,383 And detective clemons was driving. 706 00:31:59,385 --> 00:32:02,152 Kelly was riding in the-- in the front passenger seat 707 00:32:02,154 --> 00:32:04,455 And I was riding in the backseat. 708 00:32:04,457 --> 00:32:07,257 And then the bombshell. 709 00:32:07,259 --> 00:32:09,693 Det. Gibson: Kelly looks over to detective clemons 710 00:32:09,695 --> 00:32:12,029 And stated if we would pull over, 711 00:32:12,031 --> 00:32:13,965 He would tell us everything that happened. 712 00:32:16,368 --> 00:32:19,302 We pulled over on the side of the interstate. 713 00:32:19,304 --> 00:32:22,806 At this point in time, kelly was not under arrest, 714 00:32:22,808 --> 00:32:25,676 So we did advise him again of his rights. 715 00:32:27,112 --> 00:32:29,480 Kelly kind of put his head down and said that 716 00:32:29,482 --> 00:32:31,482 He would tell us the truth. 717 00:32:34,853 --> 00:32:38,321 He said he had returned home from work 718 00:32:38,323 --> 00:32:40,390 During his shift. 719 00:32:40,392 --> 00:32:42,459 And he said at the time, he was thinking 720 00:32:42,461 --> 00:32:45,428 About committing suicide. 721 00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:47,731 He said he went to the side of the bed, 722 00:32:47,733 --> 00:32:50,067 Had the nine millimeter handgun. 723 00:32:51,336 --> 00:32:53,903 Summer was in bed asleep. 724 00:32:53,905 --> 00:32:56,107 Him and summer had been having problems. 725 00:32:56,109 --> 00:32:59,809 She had stated that she had-- had a brief affair 726 00:32:59,811 --> 00:33:02,479 But that it was over and ended. 727 00:33:03,682 --> 00:33:05,549 He brought the gun up. 728 00:33:05,551 --> 00:33:07,584 He didn't mean for it to go off 729 00:33:07,586 --> 00:33:11,422 But he did shoot his wife 730 00:33:11,424 --> 00:33:13,157 With the pistol. 731 00:33:14,694 --> 00:33:17,961 He said he was confronted by summer's mother. 732 00:33:17,963 --> 00:33:19,462 She kind of startled him. 733 00:33:19,464 --> 00:33:21,699 He said, you know, he doesn't remember 734 00:33:21,701 --> 00:33:23,634 Shooting his mother-in-law. However, he said 735 00:33:23,636 --> 00:33:25,569 He remembered the firearm going off 736 00:33:25,571 --> 00:33:27,337 And her hitting the floor. 737 00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:32,041 He stated at that time, 738 00:33:32,043 --> 00:33:35,645 The children seemed to be fine or asleep. 739 00:33:35,647 --> 00:33:38,716 He said he did not wanna be the one to contact 740 00:33:38,718 --> 00:33:42,719 The police to notify them of this, 741 00:33:44,089 --> 00:33:47,391 So he did pour some gas, just only linoleum 742 00:33:47,393 --> 00:33:50,093 In the front door 743 00:33:50,095 --> 00:33:52,295 Thinking that it wouldn't burn down the house 744 00:33:52,297 --> 00:33:53,964 But it would be enough of a fire 745 00:33:53,966 --> 00:33:55,465 That the neighbors would see it, 746 00:33:55,467 --> 00:33:57,801 And call the fire department and the police 747 00:33:57,803 --> 00:33:59,403 And they would find them. 748 00:34:04,243 --> 00:34:06,009 In his personal confession, 749 00:34:06,011 --> 00:34:07,944 He stated he didn't tell us about the firearm 750 00:34:07,946 --> 00:34:10,880 Because he thought it wouldn't look good. 751 00:34:10,882 --> 00:34:12,815 Kelly stated that the person 752 00:34:12,817 --> 00:34:14,117 He borrowed the firearm from 753 00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:15,720 Did not have a thing to do with it 754 00:34:15,722 --> 00:34:17,021 And he was not involved. 755 00:34:17,023 --> 00:34:19,490 We asked him where the gun was. 756 00:34:19,492 --> 00:34:23,527 Kelly stated that he threw the nine millimeter pistol 757 00:34:23,529 --> 00:34:26,696 Out the window into the ohio river. 758 00:34:26,698 --> 00:34:29,166 I knew this man was gonna go to jail. 759 00:34:29,168 --> 00:34:31,234 He was now being placed under arrest 760 00:34:31,236 --> 00:34:34,004 For four homicides and attempted arson, 761 00:34:34,006 --> 00:34:36,774 And he was booked into the harrison county jail. 762 00:34:39,444 --> 00:34:42,078 Dorinda: It was five days between the discovery 763 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,513 Of the bodies, 764 00:34:43,515 --> 00:34:46,183 And then, the arrest of kelly holland. 765 00:34:48,587 --> 00:34:51,589 I didn't want to believe that it was kelly. 766 00:34:51,591 --> 00:34:54,457 The relationship was so new. 767 00:34:54,459 --> 00:34:55,825 It was only a year. 768 00:34:55,827 --> 00:34:57,594 They were still in the newly-wed stage, 769 00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:59,830 Talking about having a family. 770 00:35:00,999 --> 00:35:03,266 I wanted to know why. 771 00:35:03,268 --> 00:35:06,703 I wanted to know why he did it. 772 00:35:06,705 --> 00:35:08,806 What was so bad? 773 00:35:08,808 --> 00:35:10,907 Why take the whole family? 774 00:35:11,977 --> 00:35:13,810 Grace: Kelly holland's portrait 775 00:35:13,812 --> 00:35:16,646 In the community was completely opposite 776 00:35:16,648 --> 00:35:19,049 Of someone who's a coldblooded murderer. 777 00:35:19,051 --> 00:35:20,984 It just didn't match up. 778 00:35:26,825 --> 00:35:30,126 After his arrest was that arraignment. 779 00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:32,095 Everybody's packed in the courtroom. 780 00:35:32,097 --> 00:35:34,832 Summer holland's family is sobbing. 781 00:35:34,834 --> 00:35:37,768 This is the first time after the arrest 782 00:35:37,770 --> 00:35:40,437 That they've been able to see him. 783 00:35:40,439 --> 00:35:43,874 The family is holding photographs 784 00:35:43,876 --> 00:35:46,510 Of the kids and of summer 785 00:35:46,512 --> 00:35:48,679 And her mother, donna. 786 00:35:48,681 --> 00:35:50,881 Dorinda: We wanted him to remember dillian 787 00:35:50,883 --> 00:35:53,317 And marissa's face. 788 00:35:53,319 --> 00:35:56,986 We wanted him to remember summer's face. 789 00:35:56,988 --> 00:36:01,859 To feel some kind of hurt like we were feeling. 790 00:36:03,261 --> 00:36:07,797 But instead all we got was these blank looks. 791 00:36:07,799 --> 00:36:10,400 And not even one teardrop 792 00:36:10,402 --> 00:36:12,869 Fell from that man's eyes. 793 00:36:12,871 --> 00:36:14,571 Not one. 794 00:36:18,977 --> 00:36:20,944 Grace: He's eventually arraigned, 795 00:36:20,946 --> 00:36:23,514 Enters a not guilty plea, which is standard, 796 00:36:23,516 --> 00:36:25,482 And the prosecutor at the time 797 00:36:25,484 --> 00:36:27,818 Decided he is gonna go for... 798 00:36:27,820 --> 00:36:29,486 Capital murder. 799 00:36:29,488 --> 00:36:31,889 Therefore, apply pressure for a guilty plea. 800 00:36:33,558 --> 00:36:35,192 Det. Gibson: We just wanna see it all the way through, 801 00:36:35,194 --> 00:36:37,227 'cause if you do not get it resolved, 802 00:36:37,229 --> 00:36:38,928 It eats the family up. 803 00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:41,031 It just destroys them. 804 00:36:43,435 --> 00:36:45,502 Dorinda: The court proceedings 805 00:36:45,504 --> 00:36:47,972 Went for a long, long time. 806 00:36:47,974 --> 00:36:50,307 On and off cancellations. 807 00:36:50,309 --> 00:36:53,910 On and off reschedulings. 808 00:36:53,912 --> 00:36:56,846 I was at every court hearing. 809 00:36:56,848 --> 00:37:00,249 [tense music playing] 810 00:37:00,251 --> 00:37:03,086 Grace: There is another court hearing in the spring, 811 00:37:03,088 --> 00:37:07,524 And it appeared to be sort of a procedural thing. 812 00:37:07,526 --> 00:37:10,259 People did not come to court expecting to hear 813 00:37:10,261 --> 00:37:13,463 Kelly holland speak about the murders. 814 00:37:13,465 --> 00:37:16,633 It was a surprise that day. 815 00:37:16,635 --> 00:37:20,670 He's gonna testify and he's pleading guilty. 816 00:37:20,672 --> 00:37:22,972 Dorinda: Everybody that was in that room 817 00:37:22,974 --> 00:37:25,309 Just gasped. 818 00:37:25,311 --> 00:37:26,743 Grace: You could tell the family 819 00:37:26,745 --> 00:37:29,012 Is completely astonished. 820 00:37:29,014 --> 00:37:31,781 Dorinda: I wanted to know why he did it. 821 00:37:31,783 --> 00:37:33,816 What she had done so bad 822 00:37:33,818 --> 00:37:36,820 That deserved taking my mom, 823 00:37:36,822 --> 00:37:40,090 My sister, and the babies. 824 00:37:45,697 --> 00:37:48,031 Grace: It was a surprise that day. 825 00:37:48,033 --> 00:37:51,167 People did not come to court expecting to hear 826 00:37:51,169 --> 00:37:54,170 Kelly holland speak about the murders. 827 00:37:54,172 --> 00:37:56,205 Det. Gibson: During the court proceeding, 828 00:37:56,207 --> 00:37:58,375 Kelly end up taking a plea 829 00:37:58,377 --> 00:38:00,043 To life without chance of parole 830 00:38:00,045 --> 00:38:02,046 In exchange for the death penalty 831 00:38:02,048 --> 00:38:03,780 Not being filed against him. 832 00:38:03,782 --> 00:38:06,450 To satisfy the court, he had to admit 833 00:38:06,452 --> 00:38:08,651 In his own words as causing the death 834 00:38:08,653 --> 00:38:11,288 Of summer and his mother-in-law 835 00:38:11,290 --> 00:38:13,890 And his two stepchildren. 836 00:38:13,892 --> 00:38:17,294 Grace: People were finally going to hear from him. 837 00:38:17,296 --> 00:38:20,797 So kelly holland begins to speak. 838 00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:23,600 The courtroom is completely silent. 839 00:38:23,602 --> 00:38:26,035 And he explains about what's going on his life 840 00:38:26,037 --> 00:38:28,005 Leading up to the murders. 841 00:38:29,742 --> 00:38:32,608 Kelly holland described wanting the gun 842 00:38:32,610 --> 00:38:35,178 Because his wife was fearful of noises 843 00:38:35,180 --> 00:38:38,648 And hearing neighbors carrying on and felt unsafe, 844 00:38:38,650 --> 00:38:41,851 Especially when she was there alone. 845 00:38:41,853 --> 00:38:43,954 Summer and kelly had not been 846 00:38:43,956 --> 00:38:45,822 Married that long, and they're struggling. 847 00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:48,024 They're very strapped for money. 848 00:38:48,026 --> 00:38:50,760 And he describes a life 849 00:38:50,762 --> 00:38:53,963 Where he is just running himself ragged. 850 00:38:53,965 --> 00:38:58,735 He says he's been diagnosed with social anxiety. 851 00:38:58,737 --> 00:39:02,805 He's also got ocd and was taking medicine 852 00:39:02,807 --> 00:39:04,307 For depression. 853 00:39:05,945 --> 00:39:09,847 Dorinda: Summer told me that he was on paxil, 854 00:39:09,849 --> 00:39:12,715 And that they were discussing something about 855 00:39:12,717 --> 00:39:14,050 Trying to have kids 856 00:39:14,052 --> 00:39:17,387 And that he had to get off of the paxil 857 00:39:17,389 --> 00:39:20,323 So that they could have a baby. 858 00:39:20,325 --> 00:39:22,258 Grace: Kelly holland testifies 859 00:39:22,260 --> 00:39:24,761 They had hatched a plan for him to leave 860 00:39:24,763 --> 00:39:27,364 During the middle of his shift and to have sex 861 00:39:27,366 --> 00:39:29,366 And then he goes back to work. 862 00:39:33,505 --> 00:39:37,073 He's described coming home that night however, 863 00:39:37,075 --> 00:39:41,043 And he's very upset by what he sees. 864 00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:42,879 He sees open cabinets. 865 00:39:42,881 --> 00:39:44,815 He sees food around. 866 00:39:44,817 --> 00:39:47,683 He sees toys scattered all over. 867 00:39:47,685 --> 00:39:49,620 Instead of feeling romantic, 868 00:39:49,622 --> 00:39:52,423 Kelly holland is angry. 869 00:39:52,425 --> 00:39:54,290 Kelly holland made it sound first 870 00:39:54,292 --> 00:39:55,926 That summer woke up, 871 00:39:55,928 --> 00:39:58,227 And he went back and forth and argued with her 872 00:39:58,229 --> 00:39:59,829 And then shot her. 873 00:40:01,867 --> 00:40:04,700 He describes hearing his mother-in-law 874 00:40:04,702 --> 00:40:07,604 Come down the hallway and shooting her, 875 00:40:09,508 --> 00:40:12,209 And then setting the house on fire. 876 00:40:17,882 --> 00:40:20,249 And kelly holland goes on to say that 877 00:40:20,251 --> 00:40:23,853 One of the reasons why he was completely on edge 878 00:40:23,855 --> 00:40:28,724 Was his wife had admitted 879 00:40:28,726 --> 00:40:30,728 To an extramarital affair, 880 00:40:30,730 --> 00:40:34,230 And it was just a few days before the murders. 881 00:40:34,232 --> 00:40:37,600 Dorinda: He came off with this lame excuse 882 00:40:37,602 --> 00:40:41,638 That my sister was cheating on him. 883 00:40:43,409 --> 00:40:46,142 He tried to make it look like my sister 884 00:40:46,144 --> 00:40:48,477 Was the bad person. 885 00:40:48,479 --> 00:40:51,681 And all my sister was was in love with him 886 00:40:51,683 --> 00:40:55,152 And wanted a family and wanted to be with him. 887 00:40:57,456 --> 00:41:00,289 Grace: Essentially, the judge dismisses 888 00:41:00,291 --> 00:41:01,691 Kelly's accounts. 889 00:41:01,693 --> 00:41:04,228 He appears angry about the fact 890 00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:07,297 That kelly holland was not truthful. 891 00:41:07,299 --> 00:41:10,766 He thinks that he had it in mind 892 00:41:10,768 --> 00:41:13,970 When he got the gun that he would kill his wife. 893 00:41:13,972 --> 00:41:17,540 He says, "your acts that night were critical 894 00:41:17,542 --> 00:41:19,909 And you will play for them." 895 00:41:19,911 --> 00:41:21,612 Det. Gibson: Kelly holland was convicted 896 00:41:21,614 --> 00:41:23,713 Of four counts of homicide, 897 00:41:23,715 --> 00:41:25,515 One count of arson, 898 00:41:25,517 --> 00:41:27,183 And was sentenced to life in prison 899 00:41:27,185 --> 00:41:28,651 Without parole. 900 00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:33,890 Dorinda: When he left the courtroom, 901 00:41:33,892 --> 00:41:38,461 I wasn't getting any remorse. 902 00:41:38,463 --> 00:41:42,631 He just stayed this dull lifeless look 903 00:41:42,633 --> 00:41:45,068 In his face. 904 00:41:45,070 --> 00:41:47,203 I looked at him and I told him, 905 00:41:47,205 --> 00:41:49,806 "I don't forgive you." 906 00:41:49,808 --> 00:41:52,475 You never know how people think or what's in their minds. 907 00:41:52,477 --> 00:41:56,847 I think he was just unhappy in the relationship. 908 00:41:56,849 --> 00:42:00,583 What kelly did was just give enough information 909 00:42:00,585 --> 00:42:03,419 To satisfy the court so that they would not file 910 00:42:03,421 --> 00:42:05,055 The death penalty on him. 911 00:42:06,358 --> 00:42:08,591 In my opinion, the person who would murder 912 00:42:08,593 --> 00:42:12,161 An entire family is a selfish person. 913 00:42:12,163 --> 00:42:14,198 I mean, you could say they were deranged. 914 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,732 They were upset. 915 00:42:15,734 --> 00:42:19,236 But when it comes down to it, selfish. 916 00:42:19,238 --> 00:42:20,970 It was evil. 917 00:42:20,972 --> 00:42:23,406 It's maybe some kind of sickness. 918 00:42:23,408 --> 00:42:26,075 But the bottom line, it was the most evil act 919 00:42:26,077 --> 00:42:28,878 I've ever witnessed in my life. 920 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,180 He's been in prison over 20 years 921 00:42:31,182 --> 00:42:33,383 And he'll never be a free person 922 00:42:33,385 --> 00:42:35,385 To walk the face of the earth. 923 00:42:36,788 --> 00:42:40,023 [tense music playing] 924 00:42:47,332 --> 00:42:51,001 Dorinda: I live right down the road from the cemetery, 925 00:42:51,003 --> 00:42:53,270 So I pass it every day, and I say, 926 00:42:53,272 --> 00:42:56,139 "good morning," or, "good afternoon," 927 00:42:56,141 --> 00:42:57,741 Or, "good night." 928 00:42:57,743 --> 00:43:00,443 I miss my mom every day. 929 00:43:00,445 --> 00:43:03,012 Just the little comments 930 00:43:03,014 --> 00:43:04,947 That your mama gives you. 931 00:43:04,949 --> 00:43:07,551 I didn't have those anymore. 932 00:43:10,088 --> 00:43:12,021 If summer had lived, 933 00:43:12,023 --> 00:43:14,290 She'd be beautiful. 934 00:43:14,292 --> 00:43:17,027 She was a beautiful woman. 935 00:43:17,029 --> 00:43:21,030 I know she'd have kids in school right now. 936 00:43:21,032 --> 00:43:22,832 The kids would be getting up. 937 00:43:22,834 --> 00:43:26,003 There ain't no telling what they would have become. 938 00:43:26,005 --> 00:43:28,504 Dillian could be a saxophone player 939 00:43:28,506 --> 00:43:30,840 Like his daddy. 940 00:43:30,842 --> 00:43:32,641 Marissa could be a botanist 941 00:43:32,643 --> 00:43:37,113 Because she loved butterflies and dandelions. 942 00:43:38,883 --> 00:43:41,751 They still had their whole life to go.