**
-My guest today came from my hometown.
Of course, I'm talking about Philadelphia, PA,
and this man, well, he didn't stay in Philadelphia.
He ended up going to Bel-Air. This guy's been killing it.
And by killing it, I do mean he is a Oscar winner,
Grammy winner, Golden Globe winner,
Critics' Choice winner, People's Choice winner.
There's way too many winners to continue,
but the list goes on and on.
More importantly than the wins, well, the guy's also my friend.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome
Will Smith to the show. [ Sparse applause ]
-Yeah! Yeah! -See that?
-Hey, strangé. Strangé. -You hear that?
Did you hear my audience? -Yes. That was your audience.
I feel. I feel that. -You heard it?
It was four of us. -It was four? [ Laughs ]
-It's a very intimate set here.
Very intimate set. -What's up, man?
-Thank you, first of all, for coming on, man.
Well, it's coming. -All right, I'm just saying.
-Can you give it a second? -I've seen the show.
-Yeah. Give it a second. We're gonna fill the glass up.
-Okay. -I like the fact that I asked
you to come and you made the time.
You didn't know if you had the time.
-Yes, we're pre-production for "Bad Boys."
-Okay, but -- -But when my man -- you know,
my man call, you know? -Man, don't do that.
-Philly, you know how we do. -Don't do that.
-I was like, we got -- we'll slide over there for a second.
-Slide it at move it back. -Move it back for my man.
-Fuck that production! -[ Laughs ]
-Yeah, fuck that. We'll figure it out.
All right, look, you already know what we do.
We drink wine on this show. I believe great conversations
happen over great glasses of wine.
This will be a great conversation.
-Yes, sir. -So we do need our wine.
Let me call in my somm. D, come on in, man.
-D. -DLynn.
-That's my somm.
-What's up? -Mr. Smith.
-How you feeling? -Good. How about you?
-Mr. Hart. -What are we drinking today, D?
-A bespoke Syrah from the foothills of the Edna Valley.
-Bespoke Syrah. -2020 vintage.
-I knew you was gonna go '20. -Slide Hill Vineyard.
-Mmm! -Less than 100 cases made.
85 cases, to be exact. -Goddamn right, it's 85.
-Shall we? -Nothing but the best for him.
Okay? -Whoa.
-Yeah. There we go. -I'll let you taste, Mr. Hart.
I'll pour for Mr. Smith. -Yes, please.
There you go. -Mm-hmm.
-Kevin Hart, let me see how you do that. Mmm!
-[ Sucks loudly ] -Oh. There you go.
-[ Sucks loudly ] -Mmm. There you go, Kevin.
Now you got to test the legs. First you test the legs.
-Absolutely. -Gotta spray the palate, Kev.
You didn't spray your palate. Hold up.
You got to spray your palate. Hold up, hold up.
-[ Slurps loudly ]
[ Coughs ] Okay, hold up. That is what -- hold up.
That is what you're supposed to do.
That is what -- hold on, hold on.
You got to spray your palate. -That's not what you just did.
-Can you explain to him spraying your palate?
-I know what it is. But you didn't do that.
-Hold on, hold on. I did it too hard.
-No, you almost killed your fucking self.
-I did. I actually did.
I was about the need mouth-to-mouth over here.
Hold on. -I'm watching.
-[ Slurps ]
[ Coughs ] -Come on, don't spit
that fucking wine on me. -I almost sprayed it.
But no, it's very good. Thank you.
Very welcome. -Hit me up with a little more.
-Absolutely. -Yeah.
Spraying your palate is, like, you taste it.
Actually, I did it too hard. I did do it too hard.
But spraying your palate is like...
-[ Slurps ] -No, you're doing it wrong.
-[ Slurps ] -You're doing it wrong.
No, no, no, you don't put it in and then do it.
You do it from the glass. -Yeah, I know that.
I'm trying to show you. Look. -You don't have to show me.
I know. -[ Slurps ]
-Yeah. -[ Sputters ]
-Don't do it again. Don't do it again.
That's your last time. -Oh, it works.
-No, don't do it again.
I don't want you to try to do it again.
-It worked before. All right.
-[ Slurps softly ]
-Okay. I should do it less.
-Mmm! -Oh, sorry.
-DLynn, thank you. -Yes.
-Thank you.
Will, there's a lot of places
I could start in this conversation, but...
there's one place that I want to go on specifically, man.
Dude, I am in a place of international gain
and exposure based off of a blueprint
that you set in this business. -Mm-hmm.
-I want to start in the conversation of opportunity
attached to the work that you did that you put into,
I guess you could say now what's considered
to be the international exposure and attachment
to a man of color as a lead.
For a long time, there was a conversation
that we don't really cross the border.
Our movies don't translate.
My biggest question to you to start this conversation off
is, did you have the pushback in the beginning
about going over the water to promote,
or were studios more intrigued with the gamble?
How did you -- How did you basically make it
a consistent thing to get these movies to go
and be marketed and promoted on an international scale?
-I guess I'll say that
the first thing that I realized is that --
you know, I came from music,
so coming from music was a whole different world, right?
So being in music,
I had already been around the world one time with records,
So when I came to Hollywood, there wasn't --
Music was almost like underground compared to movies.
-Okay. -So I knew from step one
that marketing was equally as important as the product.
-Okay. -It does not matter how good
your product is if you can't sell it, right?
So I came into it with the idea
that I needed to be able to sell it.
And the prevailing wisdom at the time
was that Black actors don't translate internationally.
-Absolutely. Absolutely. -Right?
So the hard part is...
So technically at the time,
on paper, that was true... -Mm-hmm.
Analytics showed that there -- -Analytics showed, yes.
-There was a case behind the reason.
-That the idea that Black actors --
the films and our television shows
didn't travel as well as... -Absolutely.
-...as, you know, a show with a white American lead.
-Mm-hmm.
-For me, because I had traveled with the music,
I knew that the audience was there.
So I was like, Why is our --
-They're coming to see my shows. -Yes, exactly.
-Coming to see the shows. I've been there.
I just came from Germany. -Yeah, I just came from Germany.
So I know that people will come out.
What is the issue?
And at the end of the day, there were two things I saw.
One...
Black folks didn't want to travel.
I was talking to actors and stuff like that.
And there was a -- there was a reluctance on our part
to get on the plane and go 14 hours to, you know...
-Said country, to do -- -Said country to walk
on red carpets, right? So it was --
it was a little bit of resistance on the part
of Black actors in general,
but that compacted by the idea
that studios didn't believe in in a Black actor
to sell in the markets, that was, like, central in my career
when I first went out.
I hated hearing that I couldn't be in the movie
because it was a $120 million movie,
and Black actors aren't gonna be able to cover the...
-Well, you just -- what you just said,
I mean, is information needed -- needed information, right?
And the idea that, okay,
we weren't given the opportunities matched
and mirrored with the opportunity
that some were turning down. -Absolutely.
-Here's the thing that really, like...
that really fucking amazes me.
You know, when you think about the world
of marketing and promotion at this level, at this tier --
I'm not talking about now.
I think there's other talented actors and actresses
that you can add to the conversation,
but for your space at the time of crazy success,
of crazy trajectory -- you and Tom.
-Yeah. -It was you and Tom Cruise?
Right? You and Tom Cruise --
-Tom was the blueprint to me for promotions.
He took it most seriously. And I watched him.
I studied everything that he did.
And I was trying to outdo Tom Cruise
in terms of promotion. -He's so fucking competitive.
-Yeah. No, but you -- Tom is unbeatable, right?
-He's the highest level. -Yeah, yeah, yeah.
-A close talker, too. Tom talks like this.
-Yeah. No, 'cause he'll make sure -- he'll make --
he just wants you to understand what he said.
-Let me get it. Listen, Kevin.
We're gonna do it. But I need to --
Are you committed? Are you committed?
-I need you to understand -- -Because if you are --
Do you get it? Do you get it? -Yes.
[ Both laugh ]
-He does the laugh.
I said it -- I said it respectfully.
I said it respectfully to Tom, and I was -- you know,
'cause he scared me when he first did it.
-Yeah. -He just comes in close.
-He just wants you to feel what he's talking about.
-He gets in there. -Yeah, he gets in there.
-I said, "Whoa, Tom." -Tom, it's like...
-Yes, that's a lot. -You just got to --
And then you try to laugh and cross your arms.
-Back up. Back up.
He'll come right back. -He'll come right back in there.
-He's fucking aggressive. -Yeah. He gets it done.
-That's the aggressive, competitive nature.
I'm glad that you see that, too. -Yeah.
-I'm glad you see that, too. All love Tom.
This is something that nobody else will tell you.
We're telling you, it gets close.
-It gets close. -But it's a good --
-It's a good close. It's a good close.
-It's a good thing. -He stays fresh.
He's always got some gum. -Yeah. He wasn't hot.
He didn't fuck me up. -It's not hot, right.
That's true. It's not hot. -He didn't fuck me up.
-It's room-temperature breath. -It's just a very...
-It's just close. -...a very close, yes.
-Yes. -We got to take a break, guys.
We got more "Hart to Heart" when we come back after this.
Don't go anywhere.
**
-Welcome back. We're still here with Will Smith.
Yes, 'cause it's "Hart to Heart" and that's what we're having.
So, Will, here's where I get curious.
-Mm-hmm. -When the movies started to get
bigger, the ideas got bigger. -Yep.
-At this point, who are you searching for to help you,
like, really execute in a task of bigger, better?
Like, you know, the "Independence Day"
was one tier. Then after that, you got
the world of "Men in Black." Then you got -- I mean,
the movies just keep growing.
Was this a Will Smith engine?
Was this the team of managers, agents, or whatever?
Who acted as the driving force
in searching for the right material
to help you along that trajectory?
-So, you know, my manager J.L., James Lassiter.
J.L. was the arbiter of taste.
-Okay. -So in the heyday,
the 10 movies I made at the top of my career,
J.L. was choosing the films. -Wow.
-And he just -- he just had an eye, you know?
I didn't want to make "Pursuit of Happyness."
I didn't want to make "Ali."
-Get the fuck out of here. -Yeah.
And J.L. was pushing on --
you know, J.L. picked "Men in Black."
I kind of understood "Men in Black" a little bit,
but I didn't want to make "Men in Black."
That was the next year after Independence Day.
So I didn't want to make two alien movies back to back.
-How did he convince you?
-Steven Spielberg sent a helicopter for me.
-You're a goddamn liar. -Yeah. I was in New York.
-To talk to you? -To talk to me. To talk.
Like, it landed at his house,
and he had me at, "Hello."
-Well, yeah. You can't say no after you get on a helicopter.
-Yeah, you get off the helicopter at his house.
-And he says, "Come on..." -And it was the first time
I'd ever had lemonade with carbonated water.
-Yeah. You can't say no. -You can't say no to that.
It was lemonade with carbonated water and --
-But you had to act like you had it before.
-Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, "This is regular."
-That's good shit. -Yeah.
-Is this carbonated water? -Just like my grandmother
used to make. -It was carbonated water?
I would say that. Yeah. -This is good shit, Steve.
-But, yeah, he flew me in and he --
he said the coldest shit.
He said -- He said, "Tell me --
Tell me why you don't want to make my movie."
And he was the producer. And I was like...
And he put the ellipses at the end.
It was the dot, dot, dot.
"Tell me why you don't want to make my movie."
It was the dot, dot, dot.
If he had continued, he would have said,
"Joker, you know, I made 'Jaws,' right?"
-Yeah. -"You know I made 'E.T.'"
-Yeah, or motherfucker. -He might have said --
He's respectful.
-"Why don't you want to make my movie?"
-"Why you don't want to make..." [ Laughs ]
-Like, a very low tone to it. -And I walked in his house,
and he had the "Jaws" poster, and the -- what is it --
the "Jurassic Park." He had everything.
So it was just so I would know. -What's your answer?
-What's my answer? And I was like, you know,
I didn't want to make two alien movies back to back.
I didn't want to go from "Independence Day"
to "Men in Black," you know.
I felt like I would -- I didn't want to be the alien guy.
-But I mean, honestly, it's a worry that we have,
because I think the biggest thing that we think about
while having a moment at the top is,
well, how do you stay at the top?
And I don't want to make mistakes.
I definitely don't want to keep doing the right thing.
I don't want them to think that this is the only thing I can do.
I want to expand and do more. So I understand that logic.
I understand why you would be worried.
I mean, for him, it's just basically like,
"I'm Steven Spielberg and you're protected."
-Yeah. -"I don't make bad stuff."
-Yeah. And that goes back to one of the earlier questions.
It's like...it's a team sport.
You know? And...
there's a couple of really critical things.
It's like, who is at your right hand?
Like, who your friends are, who you're with every day
will make or break your dreams.
You cannot build a career
and you probably -- you know,
I'm gonna speak specifically from my experience,
but you probably can't do much of anything in this life
at a high level without a rock-solid team.
-In your rise of it,
did you see that, or were you the individual
that felt you were doing it by yourself?
-No, I never really thought I was doing it by myself.
I knew that I had to be the tip of the spear
in terms of discipline.
I knew I had to be the tip of the spear in terms of direction.
But I always knew that I needed my squad.
You know, we've talked a lot about, you know,
our parents. -Absolutely.
-And, you know, my father was military.
So it was very clear to me that there was a commander.
So the commander is in charge.
But if you ain't got nothing to command,
nobody is willing to follow you, you got nothing, you know.
So I was very military-minded in that early part.
I remember the first --
Do you remember the first time you came
and we worked out together?
-Listen, I'll fucking... -[ Laughs ]
-That was in -- That was, like, the heyday.
-I'll give you an example, right? So, Charlie Mack --
for those who do not know, Charlie Mack
used to be Will's security. -Yeah.
-And Charlie Mack basically has been in Will's life forever.
Charlie tells me --
this is in, like, the beginning of my career --
"Kev, you got to get to Will.
You got to get around Will."
You know, everybody who knows Charlie Mac,
they know Charlie Mack does his best --
-"Kev, Kev, Kev, Kev, I'm telling you,
I'm telling you.
You got to be around Will." -You just got to show up.
-"I'm just saying. Just show up.
You just got to be here. You just got to be --
You got to be -- You got to be -- You got to be --
You got to be near that level of greatness.
And if you spend time -- if you spend time --
I'm saying -- what the fuck is you laughing at?
I'm I'm trying to help you. I'm trying to help you."
-He's filming in New York. Charlie calls me.
"Kev, Will is doing 'Men in Black.'
They're filming it in New York. You got to get down here.
You got to come to set. The director, everybody cool.
But you just got to get some of that energy.
You got to get his energy. I'm telling you.
Shit just gonna happen."
All right, I mean...
Okay. Do you want me just to come?
Whatever. I'll figure it out.
The first time I do, we come to New York.
That's one of the first times. I see you on set.
Wow. This is when I got to see your big trailer, right?
It's two times I visited you on set.
Oh, man, this is dope as fuck.
Look at this trailer. Goddamn double-decker trailer.
Holy shit. You had a busy day.
So we talked for a second. You were right back out.
Couldn't really do much. I go visit you on set again.
Will's got a trainer with him now.
Things have changed. He's got a personal trainer on set.
By the way, this is where I got the idea
to get a personal trainer and have him travel with me.
-Darrell Foster. Darrell Foster.
-Darrell Foster is in Will's gym trailer.
Will has a gym trailer.
I got the idea to get a gym trailer from fucking Will.
You're right. I need a gym trailer. Right?
Okay. Iron sharpens iron. This is what I need.
This is what the fuck Will had. I got to get the same thing.
Will, unbeknownst to him, his guy's like,
"Yo, go in there in the gym trailer.
Will in there. He's just fucking around."
We go in the gym trailer. The trainer's in there.
He hit the bell. Bing!
"What's up, man? How you doing?"
"Hey, go. Y'all in or out?"
"I don't understand."
"Well, you in or out? You come in here,
you're in my sanctuary. You don't fuck around.
Either you came to work or you came to fucking do nothing.
You won't do nothing in my house."
-[ Laughs ]
-"I came to see -- I came to see Will.
Charlie Mack told me come and see Will."
"You doing the set or not?!"
"Yeah. Yeah. I'll put it up. Yeah, I, uh...
I get down. I get one in."
I go struggling with a set.
"Yeah. Okay. We got a bitch in here!"
-[ Laughs ]
-"Who the fuck is this? Who -- Who is he?"
I mean, literally, I ended up doing a fucking workout.
I ended up doing a workout. -Yes.
-I just came to tell Will hi. You see me after.
You like, "Yeah. Kev, he don't fuck around."
-No, no, no. Darr-- -Intense.
-I didn't know if you was ever gonna
speak to me again after that.
-No, I didn't know what the fuck that was.
I was really -- I was upset. Like, I left.
Like, I left, you know? I know I can't beat him.
But in the car, I was like, "Who the fuck he think
he was talking to, calling me a bitch?"
'Cause I couldn't do the goddamn weight.
-Oh, man. -He didn't even ask me how much
I could bench. He just -- "Get down."
I go, "That's a lot of -- I don't know if those plates
right for me. I think that's Will.
Them plates is for Will. They're not for me."
Well, I hate to even stop or break it up, but I have to.
Will, you know it's my show. And unfortunately, in this show,
we have to pay bills. Guys, don't go anywhere.
We got more "Hart to Heart" coming back after this.
Please!
**
-Welcome back to "Hart to Heart."
I'm sitting here with Will Smith.
So, Will, coming to those movie sets, man,
like, I saw your approach to work.
-Yep. -I saw what you had set up,
and I realized your team -- so to get back on track,
as you're talking about the team...
-Yep. -...your team has always
been significant, and by the way, that team hasn't changed.
Like, you got a lot of the same fucking personnel.
They've been a part of your journey throughout.
-Yeah. -So hearing about J. and making
the decisions on these scripts and hearing you say that
you didn't want to do certain scripts...
-I know, yeah. -...is unreal.
What was the turning point for "Pursuit of Happyness"?
-There was a "20/20" piece -- oh, the TV show "20/20."
It was like "60 Minutes."
And they did a piece about Chris Gardner.
So I had read the script,
and I really couldn't get it in the script.
And then when I saw the "20/20" piece,
it was like you could see the structure of the story,
the beginning, middle, and end of the story
in that small section.
And then I met with Chris Gardner and...
There's something about
human beings who have suffered.
-Mm-hmm. -Right? And overcome.
-Okay. -You know, Chris Gardner
is one of those people. -Seen rock bottom.
-That rock bottom -- -Doesn't get any lower
than his version of rock bottom. -Yes.
-And making it out of that.
-He took me to the bathroom in Oakland
where he had to sleep with his son.
-Wow. Wow.
-And when I stood in that space with him,
and it was like the ghosts jumped in my body.
And then I was like, "Got it."
-Did you -- This is before making the decision?
This is him talking to you about the journey, the story?
-Talking about it, showing me around.
And, you know, I met his son and, you know, it's like,
you know, people who have suffered to that level
have a secret, you know? And...
I could tell he had a secret for me to learn in that process.
And, you know, at that point in my career,
I had discovered that I don't work for money.
I work to learn. -Wow. Okay.
-I work to grow. -Okay.
-I work to meet people.
I work to expand and to evolve.
And I trust that if I keep my mind
in the space of great humans that have something to teach
and I work in that space, I trust that money and accolades
and all of that stuff will follow.
-What did you feel you had to do to say, "Okay,
I now need to raise the bar for myself.
I need to go past this level.
To get here, I got to unlock this"?
What did you do and where did you go to to unlock that?
-So I am a serious,
devoted studier. -Very, very.
-Right? So, you know,
I probably -- I read, you know, 12 books a year.
-A year?! -Yeah.
-Goddamn! -Yeah. Yeah, it's --
-I don't have none. -Huh?
Well, books on tape count. Books on tape count.
-Now, I listen. -I know you do that. I can tell.
-I listen. -I know you do that.
-What do you mean you can tell? What does that mean?
-Well, you know, it's just, you have a book --
-What the fuck just happened, Will?
-I'm just saying, you look like a book-on-tape kind of guy.
I can just feel it. I can see it.
It's not a bad thing. You're listening --
-Doesn't sound like a good thing.
-No, it's a great thing.
It's like you're consuming the material.
-I fall asleep. That's the only reason
why I don't read. I fall asleep. -I know. I can feel that.
I can feel that.
I'm just saying I can sense it, Kevin. I'm not --
Why are you making it a thing? You're making it --
-I'm not making it a thing. It just doesn't sound like
you're coming...
-I'm saying... -It's fine.
-...I can tell you're a book-on-tape kind of guy.
Kevin, why are you -- -'Cause I'm a bitch.
'Cause that's what you think.
This stems back to the trailer. It stems back to the trainer.
-At some point... -It's okay.
-...you're gonna have to look at yourself.
-Okay. It's all right. It's fine.
-You're projecting now. -I'll read a book
starting today, and I'm gonna text you.
I'm gonna text you when I finish the book.
I'm gonna get a book under my belt.
12 books a day, study, information.
You're a person that needs and wants information.
-I am crystal clear that the quality of my life
is going to be directly a result of the quality
of my understanding, and, you know,
the process in in my life of trying to learn was --
you know, probably I started reading like that late.
I didn't read an entire book until I was 30.
-Okay. -Yeah. So that was, like --
the first time I ever read a book cover to cover, you know,
I was 30 years old, you know?
"Malcolm & Martin & America"
and then "The Autobiography of Malcolm X," you know.
And so I started reading late. I always studied,
but I need -- I wanted to hear people talk to me.
So, you know, I was a guy that I liked to listen to people.
But when I started reading...
a lot, my life really took off and I could --
I started to be able to solve the problems
of my life more effectively.
And then I started a thing where I would read something,
and if I liked it, I would try to make contact with the author.
Right? -Okay.
-So, and then in that process,
like, education is everything. -Okay.
-The solution to every problem in life
is in a book somewhere.
Somebody experienced the shit you experienced,
and they wrote down what they went through
and the conclusions they made from that.
-Man, I mean, listen, when you get to that place
and you have clarity,
I think that's when the decisions
that you're making just get better.
Right? I got clarity, too.
And in this moment of clarity, I'm gonna take a quick break.
Guys, please don't go anywhere.
We got more "Hart to Heart" coming back after this.
**
-Welcome back to "Hart to Heart."
I'm sitting here with Will Smith,
a.k.a. "Mr. Philadelphia."
Will, so, you know, you're now making the decision to study,
research, do more, understand more, right?
-In the business, I read every book on story structure.
-Okay. -So everything about
the structuring of a movie, you know?
I put myself through, you know, an intensive study
around what makes a great movie. -Damn.
-And then behind a great movie, it's a great story.
Okay, so then what are the components of a great story?
And then I just, you know,
went into the history of the greatest
and, you know, most powerful stories ever told.
And then I wanted to understand why they were working.
What are the components? -I mean, that's how you get
to the foundation of what makes the character...
-Right. -...the character, right?
Like when you peeling back layers and layers and layers
and you're now finding more energy,
more joy and discovery with each layer, right?
-And the realization that my work
and my life aren't separate.
As I explore Muhammad Ali, for example,
and I try to put on Muhammad Ali,
it's not just a character.
It's like I'm looking at myself.
I'm seeing where I'm not great like that,
where I'm not brave like that.
I'm seeing, okay, I am funny like that.
I do have those kind of difficulties.
Like, the exploration of a character
becomes the exploration of self, right?
You're actually taking a good look at yourself
through the lens of this character,
through the lens of this experience.
-And while doing it, it helps you not only grasp
that thing that you're trying to portray better,
but at the same time, you're able to do work on you.
That's pretty fucking -- that's actually a very --
a very interesting approach to breaking down not just material,
but the approach to you, like,
embarking on that character journey.
-Yeah. -Have you ever gotten to a point
to where you felt like you got lost?
-Yeah, I've been lost two times. -Which roles?
-I got lost in "Six Degrees of Separation,"
-Mm.
-and that was a bad loss.
-Where are you at in your career?
-So this is before everything. I did it before everything.
Before "Bad Boys," everything. -I'm saying, how old?
I know the movie. I'm saying how old were you?
-22?
-Okay. -Maybe 22.
-This is like first real movie after the show?
-Yeah. So this was -- it was during the show.
It was during the time of the show.
And just right before "Independence Day."
-Okay. -And, you know,
it was Donald Sutherland and Stockard Channing.
-You were with the big dogs. -Courtney B. Vance had done it
on Broadway, you know, so I was like, "I got to do it."
So I went so deep into the character.
I spent nine days without breaking character
before we shot, right?
-Is this because of you, or is this coming from --
-Well, that was me. No, that was --
-Someone like, "Yo, you got to go deep. Go in character.
Don't go in there not in character."
This is just you overthinking, overworking.
-Just being stupid. Just doing too much.
-Okay. -And I went really far
into the character and,
like, I fell in love with Stockard Channing,
and I was like, "Oh, no, the movie's over,
and that feeling's not going away."
I was like -- and that's when I realized that you're --
What you call you, if you do something else
long enough, your mind will twist.
-Conform? -Like, you can -- Yeah.
It'll conform to that. -Convince yourself of anything.
-You sit in front of somebody looking long enough, you know,
and your lines are, "How much I love you" --
-You're not bad. -[ Laughs ]
-You know, you're all right. -You know?
-This day four. I think I do love you.
-You know what? I'ma sit closer. I'ma sit closer.
You know? [ Laughs ]
But, like, I went far. I went far in "Six Degrees."
And coming back to "The Fresh Prince,"
I actually forgot how to play Will.
-Wow. Wow. -And Alfonso was like,
"What the fuck is wrong with you?"
I was like, "What do you mean, Alfonso?"
-Oh, shit. -Like, but I literally
couldn't hear. I had twisted my voice so long.
It was like I lost how I walked. -Yeah.
-I had walked, you know, for three and a half months
like that character, and I went so hard,
and it was like -- it was actually scary
that you can slip away like that.
-And by the way, you know, you --
I've heard about these things.
I've -- I can't say that I've experienced them
because I've never dove that deep into.
-You will. -But I've heard about the side
of like, yo, you get lost and then you got to,
like you said, find your way back to
what's considered to be normal.
Okay. "Six Degrees of Separation."
-"Emancipation."
I went too far in "Emancipation."
-Really? -Yeah.
-In research and everything?
-Just bringing it up, I start to get teary.
-Okay. -Right?
It's like I wanted to --
I wanted to feel the degradation of slavery.
-Okay. -And I just, I went --
I went too far in it. And it was -- it's like...
you know, the level of human brutality.
-Yeah. -What we will do to each other.
And, you know, I had the metal --
I had the chains on my neck.
And we were working and, you know, so I was like,
"I want the real weight. Put the real weight of them.
I want the real chains, all of that."
So they got, you know, old... -Yeah.
-...chains, and so they put it on my neck.
And they were fitting it for size.
And I'm standing there, and the prop master
went to put the key in, and the key didn't work.
-Panic. -And I was like --
And I was like, "Oh, no." I was like, "Will, relax."
And I'm standing there, and they're running around
and they couldn't get me out of it.
And I'm standing there and those chains, dude.
-Jesus Christ. -And like that -- right on
that hyperventilating edge.
And I'm okay. I'm okay.
And they found it and they got it out.
And I was like, you know...
Peter was the character.
He didn't -- nobody was running around to get him out, you know?
And I just kept falling deeper and deeper
into that understanding, like...
you know, coming face to face with...
-That! -...that level of atrocity.
And we're out in the scenes and, you know, it was,
you know, getting called "nigger" a hundred times a day,
you know, by very good actors.
-Yeah, by day -- -Very, very good actors,
exquisite performers, exquisite performers.
-You be like, "Hey, man." -Yeah. [ Laughs ]
-"Are you -- Are we still acting?"
-I was like, "Hey, hey! Cut, cut."
-"Cut. Can I talk to you for a second? You..."
-Hey. [ Snaps fingers ] -"Your 'niggers' have gotten
sharper since we..." -Get your boy.
-"They've gotten a lot sharper since we started."
-Lighten up on that "e-r." -Yeah, can you --
-Lighten up on that "e-r." -Just for me?
Two of them. Fuck it up.
"I've never seen an actor give eight great takes
that are the same in my life.
You ain't miss one 'e-r.'" -[ Laughs ]
-"This whole set, not one of you guys have missed one 'e-r.'"
No, I get it, getting lost in those --
-I dream about Peter still. -Wow.
-Like, and that's what happens when, like, when you --
when you spend that time and you push your --
you push your mind that far and you just consume it
and you surround yourself on all sides by it.
And that's what happened. It, like, starts to leak
into your subconscious, and now you're dreaming.
And, you know, I wouldn't give it back.
It was one of the greatest experiences
I've ever had as an actor.
It's like Peter introduced me to God.
Right? -Wow.
-Like, my faith got solid... -Wow.
-...after working on that movie. -Wow.
Wow. I don't know about you guys,
but after hearing that, I want a little more wine.
We're gonna take a quick break.
We got more "Hart to Heart" coming up after this.
DLynn, please.
**
-Welcome back. This is still "Hart to Heart."
And we are talking with Will Smith.
An amazing conversation. -You realize we didn't cheers.
We didn't cheers. We both started drinking.
-'Cause you were so persistent on getting your goddamn glass
filled that you didn't think to do it
and you wanted to choke yourself.
If you had of thought for two seconds
about what we were supposed to do
and not damn near kill yourself, we would have cheers-ed.
-Do you want to cheers or you don't want to cheers?
Right? -I'm saying you're right.
I'm sorry. Yeah. Cheers. Cheers. I appreciate you, man.
-Let's do it without the commentary next time.
-Yeah, well, absolutely. Okay. Sorry.
Dude, I'm so engulfed
and engaged by what you're talking about.
I want to go to a point now where it seems
as if you made this shift, right?
Before the movie "Focus," Will --
Will wasn't around for a minute.
There seemed to be a break. Right?
And I don't know what the break was for. I don't know why.
And then there's another break, and then you come back
and there's this, like -- there's this commitment
to the generation of new and now --
social media, the idea of YouTube,
your bucket list. -Yeah, yeah.
-What did you see that made you determine
to make those decisions at the level that you made them at?
-I saw you and The Rock whooping my ass at the box office.
-Okay. All right.
-And I was like, "It can't happen."
-I didn't make -- I didn't expect it to --
-No, that's what happened. Let's keep it real.
I saw you and The Rock... -A quick turn.
-...whooping my ass at the box office.
-Yeah. Got it. -And I knew you were talking
about me behind my back. I could tell. I could tell.
-Well, I don't think -- I actually don't --
-No. All right. -Okay. We may have said --
-We're from Philly. It was you and me.
Now, all of a sudden, every time you're with Dwayne.
-There was one moment, I think, where I was quoted,
"This is my motherfucking city."
-Yes. Right.
-Outside of that... -I heard that.
[ Both laugh ]
-No, man. -Oh, he got a new friend now.
-[ Laughs ] -Oh, so he got a new --
he got a bodybuilding friend now, huh?
-It was a real -- there was a real thing, like --
like, I don't think people understand
what we were able to witness, right?
Like, you know, you have people that engage
in social media and some that don't.
And by the way, either one is fine.
But there was a real commitment to working that machine,
by the way, that matched the energy
of how you work the box office, how you work the fan base.
And now there's a seamless consistency through it all.
-So there was a couple things that happened.
You pointed out a couple of spots.
So, the first thing,
the first time I, like, tucked back a little bit...
2010...
was, like, the greatest year
of my life as an artist, as a parent.
"Karate Kid" came out in June. -Mm-hmm.
-"Whip My Hair" came out,
you know, in October. -Both kids.
-Both kids, yeah. -Climbing away.
Seem to be happy finding a career.
-And I'm building this dream of a family I've had in my mind.
I'm gonna do it better than my father did it.
-Mm-hmm. -We've talked about it.
-Absolutely. -You know, my father
was abusive, you know, and...
I told myself I would never have that kind of energy
with my family.
And I had a dream and an idea of a family that I was building.
And pretty much 2010 to 2012,
I had achieved everything that I had ever dreamed.
I was beyond the wildest dreams.
I had been blessed beyond anything I can imagine.
But nobody in my family was happy.
-Mm. -Right? Like...
Nobody wanted to be in a platoon,
-Mm-hmm. -Right? You know?
And Willow was the first one to begin the mutiny.
And, you know, it was --
It was the -- It was my first realization
that success and money don't mean happiness.
-Yeah. -Right?
Up until that point, I really believed
that you could succeed your way
to a house and a family
and that you could win your way to happiness.
-Yeah, we're happy. -Yes.
-We have to be happy. Look what we have.
-Look what we have. -Yes, we're happy.
-And that was my first introduction to the idea that
material circumstances do not equal happiness,
and in a lot of cases they can be the reason you're not happy.
-Mm-hmm. -You can -- You can have
so much stuff that it makes you miserable.
And so that became -- so that was my first pull back.
And I was like, okay, what am I missing?
And that's when I started reading
and, you know, studying psychology
and the relation to human happiness.
-Mm-hmm.
-I would say I was never, like, unhappy.
Like, I love life. -Mm-hmm.
-But I was driving the people around me
in a way that I was leaving scorched earth around me, right?
So I was like, okay, what am I missing?
And then that's when I started, you know, reading
and I -- I say it this way. It makes --
It makes people laugh when I say it.
But it's like I discovered feelings, right?
That -- you know, we talked about this before, too.
-You can see it in my face. -Yeah. 'Cause, like --
-I align. I understand.
-Like, I never give a fuck about feelings.
You can't care about feelings. How are you gonna win
if you're worried about how you feel?
-I don't have fucking time for that.
-Yeah. I don't care how I feel,
so I definitely don't care how you feel, right?
And if you feel bad, you better keep it to yourself.
-Don't tell me. -Exactly.
-Don't bring it over here. -Don't bring it over here.
-'Cause I got shit to do -Now you pulling me down.
-Don't bring that energy here. -Right.
So, as you probably learned also, that doesn't work at home.
-It's the worst shit in the world.
-[ Laughs ] -It's the worst.
You don't have a -- You don't have a bigger advocate...
-Yeah. -...for what you're saying
than Kevin Hart. There's a day where you go --
and I know what you're talking about -- when you go,
"What is it that I'm doing?"
-What the fuck is wrong with y'all?
-Yeah, are you kidding me? Have y'all looked around?
-Y'all niggas better clap. -You better.
And there's a moment. -[ Laughs ]
-There's a moment where you realize you have to go,
"Oh, shit." -Yeah.
-Like, my little girl... -Mm-hmm.
-My little girl don't give a damn about that.
My little girl want to hold my hand and...
-Exactly. -...get a hug. Yo, my son --
Goddamn it, I ain't rode a bike with this --
I need to get on a bike. -Exactly.
-I need to sit down... -All of that.
-...sit at the table and talk and not do the thing
that is organized and structured, like you --
I know what you're saying. -Yeah.
-I see. I understand clearly. -I'm not crying.
I'm just wiping my eyes. -That's your business.
-I'm just saying. I mean, I just don't want you
to think you're interviewing me so good
you're making me cry. -It's fine.
It's fine. By the way,
they call me the young Barbara Walters.
[ Laughter ]
-Negro -- Negro Walters. [ Laughter ]
-Within that, right,
we had a great conversation one time.
We don't have to go into the Willow of at all.
But I remember what you told me, and, you know,
the line with the -- the, "Whip my hair back and forth"
and success and everything. -Yeah.
-So your moment where you now sit in that, you realize that,
was the decision, "I'm gonna now commit to this"?
-Yes. It was like, "Okay so..."
You know, that was the first thing I had achieved
everything I wanted. I was like, "Okay,
so that's not gonna make, you know..."
I seemed pretty happy.
I was cool with it, but nobody around me.
So then I started -- excuse me --
trying to figure out what the thing that I was missing.
So I started...
...trying to be concerned
for everybody's feelings. -Mm-hmm.
By the way, this is you after "Six Degrees of Separation."
-Yeah, right. [ Laughs ] -You coming back to the set...
-Yeah. -...of "Fresh Prince"
and trying to walk. -Yes, exactly.
-You're trying to have feelings without knowing
how to best orchestrate that feeling
'cause you haven't done it. So now I'm trying to learn.
Am I doing it correctly? Are you -- I got it.
-And then that's when I, like, discovered, you know,
therapy and all that. Oh, people can help.
Oh, you don't have to do it yourself. Somebody --
Okay. All right, so...
All right. Somebody can help me talk to my daughter.
Somebody can help me talk to my sons and my wife.
Okay. Oh, cool. That's perfect.
You know, so I started, you know,
doing that and trying to work and trying to understand.
And the hardest part
was to give a fuck. -Mm.
-Right? So I'm sitting there,
and it's like it is so hitting that fear spot within me
because if you give in to feelings, you will be destroyed.
-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. -If you give in to feelings,
you are going to be destroyed.
So it was almost like the life and death for me.
So I was trying to learn how to settle in there,
learning how to settle in there.
And then, you know, coming out of that,
the other phase you were talking about when I started
with social media, part of that time of, like,
spending dipping into feelings, I was realizing
I wasn't living how I wanted to live.
-Okay.
-I was living how I needed to live
to sustain the picture that I wanted.
-You weren't stepping outside the comfort zone?
-Yes, I was like -- I was -- I wasn't --
There were things that I wanted to do.
There were things I wanted to say.
There were places I wanted to go.
But the life that I built didn't allow.
-Didn't allow you to. -Right?
-You can't step outside the line.
-Can't step outside the line.
You know, I'm working with companies
and things like that that need me to be a certain way.
-Brand-friendly. -My family needs me.
Yes, absolutely. -I have to be the brand
that I have built over the course of 20 years.
And I have to be as professional and I have to be this thing.
-Absolutely. -And by the way, in doing that,
well, there is a reservation that presents itself
at some point in time, because I want to do this.
-I want to do something else, you know. I don't --
I don't want that to be my schedule.
I want to have a different schedule.
-Yeah. -And exactly what I thought
would happen when I went into dealing with feelings
and looking at that, it was like, "Oh, shit.
Well, there's a lot of stuff
that I've agreed to do that I don't want to do."
-Yeah. Start to unpack now. -Right?
-Now it's time to unpack some luggage in there.
-Yes, you know? -Yeah.
-And I think the the thing
where I really -- the demarcation line
was on my 50th birthday when I jumped out
the helicopter over the Grand Canyon.
That was, like, the day I decided I was gonna live
how I wanted to live.
-Wow. Stop right here for a second.
We got to take a quick break. Please keep it locked.
We got more "Hart to Heart" coming up after this.
-Three, two, one!
Go! Yay!
Whoo! Yeah!
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**
-Welcome back to "Hart to Heart."
I'm still sitting here with Will Smith,
and the conversation is amazing, as you guys can see.
Will, you were talking about family.
There's a moment where you and Jada are talking after...
-Mm-hmm. -...and Jada goes,
"I saw you gathering yourself." -Mm-hmm.
-"And then there's a moment where you looked up
and I knew you were ready." -Mm-hmm.
-And then you do the replay and you, like, sitting there
and whatever the fuck you saying to yourself, you're saying.
But then it's like somebody pressed the button
and you said... -[ Laughs ]
-...and whatever the fuck that thing was,
I'll never forget it. -Yeah.
-Jada was like, "That's when I knew you was ready.
I knew you was ready." You sat up.
Motherfucker, you wasn't blinking. It's like...
-[ Laughs ]
-I remember. I remember my word.
I said, "Oh, this nigga crazy."
Like, I was waiting for you to go,
"Nah, fuck this. Pull me up.
Cut it off. Like, we...
Throw the dummy down." -The dummy, yeah.
-You... -Dude.
-...you did it, but that jump,
I can only imagine, meant so much more.
That was -- It was bigger than the bungee jump
just for the moment. Like, that's a real jump.
That's a life jump.
-That moment is the key to life.
If you can understand.
Take a deep breath. -Mm-hmm.
-Stick your arms out, and surrender to life.
If you can understand that, right,
nobody's in control.
It's an illusion that you're in control.
-Mm-hmm. -Life got you. Right?
-But you don't know that till you get got.
-You don't know, right. Yeah. -You got to get got.
-You got to get got, like -- -My accident was me getting got.
-Yeah, yeah. -Life got me. God got me.
God said, "Hey, come here." -Come here, yep.
-"Let me show you something." -Yeah.
-"Let me show you something, little boy. You..."
-Mm-hmm. Oh, you think -- -"You think you..."
[ Laughs ] "Come here. Let me show you something."
-Hey, little boy, watch what I'm gonna do with this car.
Watch this. Watch this. Bang! [ Laughs ]
-And it's not -- It's not till you get that...
-Yep. Absolutely. -...and then you get
in that room... -Yep.
-...and you look in the room and you look around at people
you're like, "Oh, shit.
Oh, fuck. Ain't no cameras here. Ain't nobody.
Where are my fans at?" -Yeah.
-"Where the whole star-- Where the idea of stardom at?
Where's the -- Where's the glitz, the glamour,
the -- where's the thing at? Where the Ferraris?"
-Yeah. -"Where's the watches?"
You have to get got, to your point.
-Absolutely. -So when you're talking about
surrendering respectfully... -Yeah.
-...and listening to what you're saying, you know that...
-Yeah. -...because things happen to you
that forced you to surrender. -Absolutely.
-And then after doing it, you saw the benefit.
-Yeah. I describe it as ecstatic surrender.
-Okay. -When you let go and it's like,
you know, you either trust God or you don't.
-Mm-hmm. -There's no middle.
-Mm-hmm. -You're gonna tear yourself
apart in the middle. -Mm-hmm.
-Right? And, you know, for me,
that process of coming to that place of humility
and surrender is...
You can't -- You can't teach it.
-Mm-hmm. -You can't teach it.
It's like you have to lean into life,
and you have to be torched by reality and...
the thing about being torched by life is that
only to fake things burn. -Mm.
-Nothing true burns. -Mm. Mm.
-Only your fantasies burn, right?
When you get torched by life,
the false things that you're holding on to about yourself,
the false things that you're holding on to about reality
are the only things that can get touched.
-Mm. -And if you can stand the loss
of everything that's fake, everything that's fantasy,
everything that's delusional, if you can stand that,
you know, there's a trauma to it,
but if you can stand that, there's a --
there's an emotionally invincible you
under your fakeness. -Mm-hmm.
-Right? -See, I love -- I love
what you're saying for two reasons, right?
You're Superman.
Here's what I mean by you're Superman.
You are the prince... -Mm-hmm.
-...to this Hollywood entertainment thing.
But when you see your prince be vulnerable,
well, it's so dope because you're bringing humility
to the job that people watch and respect
but forget. -Mm-hmm.
-We forget... -Yeah.
-...that there's a human side... -Yeah.
-...to the thing that we watch from afar for so long,
'cause you're a superhero. -Mm-hmm.
-Will Smith, nah, you better not fucking cry.
You Will Smith. -Right.
-We forget that. -Yeah.
-So when we're talking like we're talking now,
I'm so blown away because I'm like,
people are so afraid to be fucking human.
-Yeah. -You're so afraid
to actually be human 'cause we get caught up
in the box of this thing we built...
-Absolutely. -...and the perfected idea
of what we are and where we are, who we are,
it cannot be touched. I don't want them to touch it.
You get lost in that. -Yeah.
-And the idea of human becomes third, not even second.
You made a decision to put the human first.
And by the way, it's visible.
Like, it's visible. -Yeah.
-I'm gonna tell you who else did it.
I'm gonna tell you who else fucking did it.
Kobe after retiring? -Yep.
-After retiring... -Yep. Absolutely.
-...Kobe made a decision. -Yep.
-In talking to Kobe --
I remember talking to Kobe, and there was a moment
Kobe was like, "Kev, I'm the happiest I ever been."
-Yeah. -And I said -- I said,
"Why? You ain't playing ball."
He said, "Man, I'm in tune with my kids."
-Yeah. -"I'm coaching my daughter's
basketball team and I'm into venture, investing.
I found a new..."
He found a new thing that allowed him to, like,
have a different level of energy and not the same...
'Cause he was this thing for so fucking long.
It's like he released and let that monkey off his back.
-When you -- dude. -He let the monkey off his back.
-Listen. It's like --
-That's what I hear in what you're saying.
-Yeah, and it's like...
I haven't learned how to say this yet, but I'm glad --
I'm glad you're talking about it in that way.
Right? It's like the...
[ Exhales ]
Let it go. -Yeah, I think I just said it.
I think it's monkey off your back.
-Monkey off your back, yeah. -I think I just said it.
I think I just said it. -You said it.
-Yeah, I think I was just -- It was simple the way I said it.
-Yeah, it's not -- It wasn't great.
It wasn't -- It wasn't great, Kev. The monkey --
-Monkey off your back. -Because that's --
It has alcoholic connotations with the monkey.
Like, it's just -- -I was just thinking of, like,
a strong-ass monkey on your back.
I didn't think about it. -Yeah.
-But you get what I'm saying? You understand what I'm saying?
-I do understand what you're saying, Kev.
It's just not a perfect analogy. -Okay, well, let's go with --
-We're talking about my feelings. At some point --
-Let's go with the exhale. -Okay. I mean, it's your show.
It's your show. -[ Exhales ]
I'll go with the exhale.
-I -- Now I'm offended and I'm tight.
-Okay, well, I don't want you to get tight.
I want to get back to the exhale
'cause we're in such a great place, right?
I'm gonna tell you what. Don't do that. Don't.
Okay, don't -- You're right. Okay.
I want to apologize for not going with Will's --
You know what, this is the part --
-Are you apologizing -- apologize into camera
so the world knows that you're sorry.
-I want to say sorry for not allowing Will's side
of thinking to be heard.
And I assumed that my side was the right side.
-Yes. -Monkey on your back
is not fitting for everyone. -Yes.
-Some people don't like monkeys. -Right.
-And... -And sometime the monkey's
on your front. It's like -- -You're right.
You're absolutely right.
-And sometimes it's not a monkey.
-It's not -- You're right, Will.
How about we don't use an animal at all?
How about I just say -- -Cause now you're --
you know, if you're against animals, then...
-I'm not against animals. -...you're against nature.
-Will, I don't want to go down --
-And it doesn't fit into what I'm saying.
-I don't want to go down a rabbit hole here, Will.
I think you're right. -A rabbit hole?
So everything's about animals with you.
-All right. -You better --
I bet that sweater is fucking polar bear, isn't it?
-Maybe I got a fucking problem. [ Both laugh ]
No, I love -- I love --
I love what you're saying, and I want to say --
-It's the surrender of
the need to be perceived
a certain way.
-Can I tell you what's dope? -Mm-hmm.
-And how is this gonna come full circle?
Doing "Hart to Heart,"
there has to be an idea of surrendering
and just coming to sit down and talk to me.
-Yeah. -There is no prep.
-Mm-hmm. -There is no call before.
-Yeah. -There is no, "What are we
talking about?" -Right.
-That's not what this is about. And what you're doing, Will,
I just want to applaud you
and I want to fucking say, "Oh, keep going."
Like, you -- the decision that you made to open up,
the decision that you made to really talk about, like,
your trauma, like, what's going on,
you have fucking made it okay for the people
that looked at Superman to go, "If Superman can do it,
I can, too. Hey, man, let me tell you all
what's been fucking with me for years."
You are somebody that I not only look up to,
I admire, I respect,
more importantly, man, I model my fucking career after.
Like, your work ethic, your desire to be great
and to not take no...
Will, I model my shit after you.
If you did stand-up comedy,
I promise you we would be aligned to the tee.
Everything that I have done in movies,
every road that I went down
is because of the model that you built.
-Love that. -You've now created another
model and another blueprint.
At the end of the day, you're fucking human, man.
And I love and appreciate you for being that
and that only. -Love that.
-Nothing else needs to be said. -Mm-hmm.
-I appreciate you for coming on this fucking platform
and just being you, dude. -Yeah.
-Being fucking you, Will Smith. -It was great.
And then you, like, you went off the rails.
-Well, I'm not done. I want you to call that trainer.
And I want, because --
-You don't, Kev. You don't want that.
-I'm not gonna ever see him again.
But I want to tell him I'm not a bitch.
-Okay. -And I want to say, fuck him.
-I'll text him. I'll text him. -No, you tell him what I said.
-Okay. I'll tell -- I'll text him that you said
you're not a bitch. -Yeah, And I don't have to
lift that weight if I don't want to.
-Ah, it -- it's a text. I'll just keep it short.
-Just text it. But you get what I'm saying.
-I know what you're saying, yeah.
I'll make sure it has your energy.
-This show, it was exactly what I wanted it to be.
Thank you for doing it.
Through Philadelphia stand up,
I think I got to end it in asking a question
that the world wants to know.
When are we gonna figure out what we're doing?
-I know. Listen...
-When are we gonna figure out what we're doing?
-Well, you know, I want to end on a good note,
you know, but... -So just tell them.
-And I know you're not supposed to --
-That's your camera. Just... -You're not supposed to
follow up a question with a question.
-Yeah. -I would just say,
how many movies have you made with The Rock?
-Here we go again. -I'm just asking. Just --
You just say the number.
You don't have to put commentary.
Just say the number. How many?
-I don't know... -I mean...
How many movies have you made with The Rock?
-We've done -- I think it would be if you count them...
[ Mumbles ]
[ Laughter ] -I didn't hear you.
-You just heard what I said. -You said...
-If you're counting it -- if you want me to count,
I'm telling you right now, I think me and Rock,
we've definitely --
I think we've done, like...
[ Mumbles ]
-All right. -Yeah. So...
-Okay. The answer's in your question.
-All right. Well, this is "Hart to Heart,"
and this is Will Smith, my brother.
Philadelphia, stand up, man, to the world out there.
An amazing conversation full of amazing gems.
Made my heart happy today. Made my heart happy.
That's it, guys. Will Smith. One time, everybody.
-Kevin Hart, ladies and gentlemen.
Kevin Hart. [ Applause ]
Oh, man.
-I challenged...
-That was spectacular.
-Challenged you.
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-Yo.