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Jump.

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Hey.

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And cut! Back to one.

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I'm still not entirely sure
how to.

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You'll wake up very sore
tomorrow, I would say. Yeah.

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The volume's on. You'll be
able to hear everything.

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Um, so it's just gonna be
this one here.

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Oh, yes,
maybe you were a bit down.

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But if you turn that up there,
then you'll be able to hear.

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And then all you have to do is,
like, press in to speak.

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You'll get the hang of it.
It's pretty easy.

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I really want to.

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But, you know...

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You're scared.

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Anyone would be.

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Do you really think
speaking out might stop him?

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I think it's really important

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for voters to have this
information as they determine

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whether he's fit
to be president.

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What if he decides to sue?

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Would <i>The New York Times</i>
be willing to help me?

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News organizations
can't provide legal support.

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You'd be on your own.

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Hi, Rachel?

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And you're definitely going
to write about Jessica Leeds?

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Jessica is absolutely on board,
a hundred percent.

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Okay.

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I'll do it.

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I'll go on the record
and say what he did to me.

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You will? That's great, Rachel.

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Thank you.

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...in New Hampshire,

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asking voters there to reelect,
uh, the, uh, Republican senator

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as a check and balance.

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Violet, uh, no.

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-Baby, Mommy's got to go
to work. -Mommy, Mommy.

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You're gonna stay
with Daddy, okay?

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Violet, Violet,
Mom's gonna go to work.

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Come on.
Let's go see your animals.

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-Come on.
-Talia, you're my hero.

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Want to show me your elephant?

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Well, I know that

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it's an amuse-bouche,
but, I mean, that's quite

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an unorthodox approach.
Isn't that right?

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It's really
simple. Um, I always put...

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We didn't find
any evidence of evil intent.

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You can't obstruct
justice there.

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Morning, Jodi.

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But, you know, we know

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where minorities are.

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They might not be
as enthusiastic as they were

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four years ago,
but we know where they are.

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We know where young people are.

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We know, uh, where,
uh, uh, single people are.

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Were you sick again?

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Yeah.

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It's meant to stop
after the first trimester.

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You should probably
get some sleep.

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Mm.

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Mm.

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I will, as soon as
I get a response.

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From Trump's people?

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What happens
if they don't respond?

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They will, but we can't publish
until they do.

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Hello?

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Is this Megan Twohey?

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Yes, Mr. Trump.

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I do not know these women.
They are lying.

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And if I did something to them,

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why didn't they go
to the police?

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Jessica Leeds and Rachel Crooks
didn't ever say

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that they knew you, just that
they were chance encounters.

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<i>The New York Times</i>
has concocted these stories,

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and if you publish them,
I will sue.

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What about the leaked
<i>Access Hollywood</i> tape?

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Do you do those things?

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I don't do it.

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I don't do it.
It was locker-room talk.

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And, Mr. Trump, Miss Utah, she
claimed you forcibly kissed her

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more than once when you owned
the Miss America pageant.

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She's lying. You are disgusting.

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You are a disgusting
human being.

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<i>Several women speaking out,</i>

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<i>accusing Donald Trump of</i>
<i>touching them inappropriately.</i>

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<i>Jessica Leeds and Rachel Crooks</i>

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<i>telling</i> The New York Times
<i>they were both</i>

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<i>groped or kissed by Trump</i>
<i>without consent.</i>

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<i>...for a company</i>
<i>located in Trump Tower,</i>

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<i>claims the billionaire</i>
<i>kissed her on the cheeks</i>

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<i>and the mouth.</i>

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Oh, my God.

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Fuck. Rachel, I'm so sorry.

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I went
on the record, you published,

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and this is what happened.

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Yeah, I'm so sorry.

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I was prepared,
you know? But not for this.

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An envelope full of shit?

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Was there anything
written on it?

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No. What can I do?

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- Oh, yeah, fuck.
- I can't even leave the house.

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Well, you-you need to
write everything down.

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Tape any conversations
or voice mails.

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You need to document
any threats that you get...

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-Megan Twohey?
-Yeah. That's us.

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I can't even imagine--
Shit. Rachel, I'm sorry.

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I have to go.
I'll call you back, I promise.

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Rachel?

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I'm calling from
Bill O'Reilly at Fox News.

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Are you a feminist?

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Are you fucking kidding me?!

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I'm sorry. Hi. Hi.

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<i>The final push</i>

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till Election Day.

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And as Hillary Clinton
and Donald Trump...

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Oh. Bill O'Reilly's
talking about you.

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<i>The Factor</i> asked Miss Twohey

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to appear this evening.

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She declined, no surprise.

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This is a tough forum.

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She and Mr. Barbaro
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other cable outlets

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friendly to
liberal points of view.

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We asked Miss Twohey
if she herself is a feminist,

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both on the phone
and in writing.

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She declined to answer
in both cases.

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I'm gonna go get some noodles.

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But here's what she said
about the article yesterday.

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You know,
our story is the experience

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of many women,
going back over the years.

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Hello?

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I am going
to rape you and murder you

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and dump your body
in the Hudson River.

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<i>This night is turning out to be</i>

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<i>a real nail-biter.</i>

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<i>CNN can report that</i>

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<i>Hillary Clinton</i>
<i>has called Donald Trump</i>

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<i>to concede the race.</i>

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<i>...the winner</i>
<i>of the presidential race.</i>

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<i>CNN projects Donald Trump</i>
<i>wins the presidency.</i>

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<i>Breaking news on Bill O'Reilly.</i>

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Let's go to Julia Boorstin.
Julia.

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That's right.

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Fox has just announced
that Bill O'Reilly is out,

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saying, quote, "After
a thorough and careful review

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"of the allegations,
the company and Bill O'Reilly

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"have agreed that Bill O'Reilly
will not be returning

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to the Fox News Channel."

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Of course, this follows the
boycott of over 50 advertisers

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of <i>The O'Reilly Factor</i>
after a <i>New York Times</i> report

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of sexual harassment allegations

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and the report that
Fox and O'Reilly together

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spent about $13 million

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to settle those allegations
from five different women.

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-So, the story...
-Job well done, Emily.

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Thanks, Dean.

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And you, Mike.
Excellent reporting.

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...not be returning
to his top-rated cable show.

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Are we talking solely
corporate misuse of power?

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No, we're talking all workplaces

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where sexual harassment
might happen.

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Also, let's look
for the enablers.

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Fox kept O'Reilly on

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for quite some time
after our story broke.

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And for decades before that.

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The network only ousted him

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when the advertisers
jumped ship.

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Let's interrogate
the whole system.

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Why is sexual harassment
so pervasive

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and so hard to address?

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Hey, do you guys have a minute?

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Sure.

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So, I spoke to Shaunna Thomas,

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the head of UltraViolet,
a feminist group.

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She said the wrongdoing
in Hollywood is overwhelming.

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She's in touch with an actress,
Rose McGowan,

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who has tweeted about
being raped by a producer.

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Thomas says
it's Harvey Weinstein

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and that McGowan is
now working on a book about it.

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Wasn't he charged with
something couple years ago?

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Yeah, um...

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Ambra Battilana Gutierrez,
an Italian model.

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She claimed Weinstein groped her
in a business meeting.

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The NYPD investigated it,
but he was never charged.

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Talk to Rose McGowan.

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Try to talk to other actresses
he's worked with.

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Yeah. And I'll try
to reach ex-employees.

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<i>Hi. My name is Jodi Kantor.</i>

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<i>I'm an investigative reporter</i>
<i>for</i> The New York Times.

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<i>We're looking into sexual</i>
<i>harassment in the workplace.</i>

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<i>I believe you were</i>
<i>an employee at Miramax</i>

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<i>and worked for Harvey Weinstein</i>
<i>in the '90s.</i>

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Are you recording this?

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No, absolutely not, and I won't
quote from this conversation

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without your permission.

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But in your time as an
assistant, were you aware of

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any instances
in which Harvey Weinstein

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treated women inappropriately
or crossed a line?

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Did Harvey cross a line?

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Would you like to hear
her heartbeat?

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-Yeah.
-Mm-hmm.

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<i>Mary, thanks so much</i>
<i>for calling me back.</i>

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Who have you talked to?

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I can't tell you names, just as
I would never divulge yours,

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but if you wanted to share
anything that you know,

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that would be so helpful.

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I don't think
people will want to talk.

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Sorry.

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<i>Ms. Godrèche, thank you</i>
<i>so much for responding.</i>

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<i>Before you continue,</i>

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<i>I've talked about Weinstein</i>
<i>in the past, but it's private.</i>

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<i>My immigration lawyer does not</i>
<i>want me to be involved.</i>

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Involved in what?

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- Hello?
- Oh, hi, Rose.

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Um, this is Jodi Kantor
from <i>The New York Times.</i>

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I wrote you an email.

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Shaunna Thomas suggested
you might be willing to have

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a conversation with me
about Hollywood,

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and specifically
Harvey Weinstein.

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-Are you writing about him?
-Yes, I am.

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Look, I don't feel that inclined
to talk to you about it.

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Could I ask why not?

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I've been treated quite shabbily

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by your paper numerous times,

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and I believe
the root of it is sexism.

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I'm sorry
that was your experience.

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I've talked in the past,
and nothing happened.

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I spoke at
a political meeting recently,

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and <i>The New York Times</i>
put it in the Style section.

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It does damage to shout,
and no one listens.

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I'm investigating
systemic sexism in Hollywood.

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How many pages have you got?

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No.

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I put myself on the line before,

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and it made no difference.

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I've written about the
workplace at Amazon, Starbucks

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and Harvard Business School,
and change did happen.

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They reformed their policies

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as a direct result
of the <i>Times</i> articles.

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But if you don't want to talk,
I understand.

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And good luck with your book.

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Thank you. Goodbye.

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I spoke to Dad.

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He sounded worse.

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I got to go see him soon.

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Could you go for a long weekend?

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You could take the girls.

247
00:14:56,196 --> 00:14:58,932
I could take Talia
but not both of them.

248
00:15:04,539 --> 00:15:06,373
I'm having an affair.

249
00:15:07,675 --> 00:15:10,444
With a very famous actress.

250
00:15:11,445 --> 00:15:13,213
You want her number?

251
00:15:19,019 --> 00:15:22,089
She's so hot.

252
00:15:22,122 --> 00:15:24,057
This looks beautiful.

253
00:15:24,091 --> 00:15:27,027
You'd really like her.

254
00:15:27,060 --> 00:15:31,432
"I am a nasty woman.

255
00:15:34,001 --> 00:15:35,469
"I'm not as nasty

256
00:15:35,503 --> 00:15:39,507
as using little girls like
Pokémon before their bodies..."

257
00:15:39,541 --> 00:15:42,042
-Is that Ashley Judd?
-Yeah.

258
00:15:43,043 --> 00:15:44,712
She wrote about
being sexually harassed

259
00:15:44,746 --> 00:15:46,714
by a producer in the '90s.

260
00:15:46,748 --> 00:15:50,484
She doesn't name him,
but she describes him as

261
00:15:50,518 --> 00:15:54,388
"one of our industry's most
famous admired/reviled bosses."

262
00:15:54,421 --> 00:15:55,989
Mm.

263
00:15:56,023 --> 00:15:58,593
"...sexual assault, transphobia,

264
00:15:58,626 --> 00:16:01,462
"white supremacy, misogyny,

265
00:16:01,495 --> 00:16:03,765
ignorance, white privilege."

266
00:16:03,798 --> 00:16:05,733
-I'll go.
-I'll get her.

267
00:16:05,767 --> 00:16:09,102
Mom!

268
00:16:09,136 --> 00:16:11,371
-We'll both go.
-Yeah.

269
00:16:12,473 --> 00:16:15,008
I don't know if I can do this.

270
00:16:17,612 --> 00:16:19,379
You need to rest.

271
00:16:20,180 --> 00:16:23,217
You try to sleep, maybe?

272
00:16:24,051 --> 00:16:26,420
I don't want to be...

273
00:16:27,789 --> 00:16:30,357
I just have
this constant sense of dread.

274
00:16:31,659 --> 00:16:33,595
You're tired.

275
00:16:33,628 --> 00:16:35,663
Your body's exhausted.

276
00:16:37,532 --> 00:16:40,434
I think I would know
if it was just that.

277
00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,575
Mom.

278
00:16:55,683 --> 00:16:57,050
Hello?

279
00:16:57,084 --> 00:16:58,720
It's Rose.

280
00:16:58,753 --> 00:17:01,321
-McGowan.
-Rose, hi.

281
00:17:01,355 --> 00:17:04,124
It's not just him
you should be after.

282
00:17:04,157 --> 00:17:07,194
There's an entire machine,
a supply chain.

283
00:17:07,227 --> 00:17:09,664
Of abusers in Hollywood?

284
00:17:09,697 --> 00:17:10,698
Right.

285
00:17:10,732 --> 00:17:12,299
They're worldwide,

286
00:17:12,332 --> 00:17:16,136
wherever movies are
being made or sold.

287
00:17:16,169 --> 00:17:19,139
Each studio does
the victim-shaming and payouts.

288
00:17:19,172 --> 00:17:23,243
If white men could have
a playground, this would be it.

289
00:17:25,245 --> 00:17:27,549
Do people know about it?

290
00:17:27,582 --> 00:17:29,283
Of course.

291
00:17:29,316 --> 00:17:32,720
I told a lot of people
what happened to me.

292
00:17:32,754 --> 00:17:35,289
At the Sundance Film Festival?

293
00:17:35,322 --> 00:17:39,293
I was 23. I was doing all these
brilliant independent films.

294
00:17:39,326 --> 00:17:41,663
I was just incredibly hopeful.

295
00:17:43,163 --> 00:17:44,699
-And then I went
to that hotel room. -Hi.

296
00:17:47,702 --> 00:17:49,637
Talia?

297
00:17:49,671 --> 00:17:50,872
I'm here.

298
00:17:50,905 --> 00:17:53,575
He was on a sofa,

299
00:17:53,608 --> 00:17:56,109
talking loudly on his phone.

300
00:17:56,143 --> 00:17:57,377
I waited.

301
00:17:57,411 --> 00:17:59,479
And then
we talked about projects,

302
00:17:59,514 --> 00:18:05,419
and he suddenly said,
"I have a Jacuzzi in my room."

303
00:18:05,452 --> 00:18:07,789
I didn't know
what the answer to that was,

304
00:18:07,822 --> 00:18:10,625
so I just kept talking.

305
00:18:12,225 --> 00:18:14,862
We wrapped up,
and he said he'd walk me out,

306
00:18:14,896 --> 00:18:18,198
and I thought,
"Well, that went well."

307
00:18:18,231 --> 00:18:20,668
It was my first big meeting.

308
00:18:20,702 --> 00:18:24,706
He walked behind me
down a hallway, then he said,

309
00:18:24,739 --> 00:18:27,374
"This is the Jacuzzi room."

310
00:18:27,407 --> 00:18:32,212
And I looked in,
and he pushed me inside.

311
00:18:32,245 --> 00:18:38,352
He stripped me,
and he was suddenly naked.

312
00:18:38,385 --> 00:18:41,522
I left my body in some way.

313
00:18:42,557 --> 00:18:44,458
And he raped me.

314
00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:50,898
I went into survival mode to
get out, and I faked an orgasm.

315
00:18:50,932 --> 00:18:53,400
He told me to get dressed.

316
00:18:53,433 --> 00:18:56,904
He left me messages telling me
I was his new special friend

317
00:18:56,938 --> 00:19:00,808
and that he'd done a lot
for other actresses.

318
00:19:00,842 --> 00:19:02,677
Did you report it?

319
00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:06,279
Can you see the law
taking my side on that?

320
00:19:08,816 --> 00:19:10,785
But you told other people?

321
00:19:10,818 --> 00:19:14,789
I told a lot of people,
and nobody did a thing.

322
00:19:14,822 --> 00:19:16,591
Nothing.

323
00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:21,796
Can I contact
the people you told?

324
00:19:21,829 --> 00:19:24,297
You told me this was private.

325
00:19:25,332 --> 00:19:29,202
He'll have spies
watching you now, as we speak.

326
00:19:29,236 --> 00:19:31,438
I hope you know that.

327
00:19:57,464 --> 00:19:58,533
Hello?

328
00:19:58,566 --> 00:20:00,568
Hey, Megan,
this is Jodi Kantor.

329
00:20:00,601 --> 00:20:02,302
Is this a bad time?

330
00:20:02,335 --> 00:20:04,337
Uh... um, no.

331
00:20:04,371 --> 00:20:06,273
It's fine.

332
00:20:06,306 --> 00:20:07,642
Oh, I hear her.

333
00:20:07,675 --> 00:20:10,277
How's it all going?

334
00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:12,814
Yeah, it's, um...

335
00:20:12,847 --> 00:20:15,215
I just got her down.

336
00:20:16,416 --> 00:20:18,886
It's the toughest part,
I think.

337
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,353
Is it?

338
00:20:20,387 --> 00:20:22,523
I found it to be so.

339
00:20:22,557 --> 00:20:26,359
With my first daughter,
I had postpartum depression.

340
00:20:28,029 --> 00:20:29,997
Everyone's so excited,

341
00:20:30,031 --> 00:20:32,734
and it's like...

342
00:20:32,767 --> 00:20:34,434
you're just not there.

343
00:20:35,770 --> 00:20:37,471
Right.

344
00:20:39,674 --> 00:20:41,876
So, I got your email.

345
00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:43,010
How's it all going?

346
00:20:43,044 --> 00:20:45,546
Yeah.

347
00:20:45,580 --> 00:20:50,383
I feel like there are
a lot of women who have...

348
00:20:50,417 --> 00:20:53,353
been through something with him.

349
00:20:54,055 --> 00:20:56,891
But they find it hard to talk.

350
00:20:56,924 --> 00:21:02,029
And those who do talk to me
don't want to go on the record.

351
00:21:02,063 --> 00:21:04,532
In your previous stories,

352
00:21:04,565 --> 00:21:06,501
how did you persuade women
to tell you

353
00:21:06,534 --> 00:21:08,401
what had happened to them?

354
00:21:10,004 --> 00:21:12,840
Yeah, so...

355
00:21:12,874 --> 00:21:14,374
It's difficult.

356
00:21:14,407 --> 00:21:16,844
They're terrified.

357
00:21:16,878 --> 00:21:18,846
A case I made was,

358
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,383
"You know, I can't change what
happened to you in the past,

359
00:21:23,416 --> 00:21:26,921
"but together we may be able
to use your experience

360
00:21:26,954 --> 00:21:29,824
to help protect other people."

361
00:21:29,857 --> 00:21:32,927
The truth, basically.

362
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,427
But yeah.

363
00:21:34,461 --> 00:21:38,599
It's hard to ask women to talk.

364
00:21:55,850 --> 00:21:58,820
Then he asked me to meet him,

365
00:21:58,853 --> 00:22:00,521
uh, really early.

366
00:22:00,555 --> 00:22:04,357
And I had been up all night
filming, and I was tired.

367
00:22:04,391 --> 00:22:07,562
I went over to The Peninsula
Hotel, and at reception,

368
00:22:07,595 --> 00:22:09,964
I asked, "Is Mr. Weinstein
in The Belvedere restaurant

369
00:22:09,997 --> 00:22:11,464
or is he on the patio?"

370
00:22:11,498 --> 00:22:15,136
And they said, "Go to his room."

371
00:22:15,169 --> 00:22:18,371
And I went upstairs,

372
00:22:18,405 --> 00:22:21,609
and Harvey was in his bathrobe.

373
00:22:21,642 --> 00:22:24,979
And he asked if
he could give me a massage.

374
00:22:25,012 --> 00:22:27,982
"No," I said.

375
00:22:28,015 --> 00:22:29,851
And then, um, he asked me

376
00:22:29,884 --> 00:22:31,986
to help him pick out
his clothes for the day.

377
00:22:32,019 --> 00:22:36,489
He, you know, started asking
for all these things,

378
00:22:36,524 --> 00:22:39,594
increasingly more sexual,
getting closer and closer.

379
00:22:39,627 --> 00:22:42,864
And I just said no
so many different times

380
00:22:42,897 --> 00:22:45,600
and in so many different ways.

381
00:22:45,633 --> 00:22:50,004
And then he finally, um, asked
me to watch him take a shower.

382
00:22:50,037 --> 00:22:52,874
And I said, "Harvey,

383
00:22:52,907 --> 00:22:57,612
"when I win an Academy Award
in a Miramax movie,

384
00:22:57,645 --> 00:22:59,513
I will give you a blow job."

385
00:22:59,547 --> 00:23:01,983
And I got out of there fast.

386
00:23:02,016 --> 00:23:03,618
What did you do?

387
00:23:03,651 --> 00:23:06,020
I told my dad, I told my agent,

388
00:23:06,053 --> 00:23:08,890
I told the people with whom
I was filming that night,

389
00:23:08,923 --> 00:23:10,558
and Harvey punished me.

390
00:23:10,591 --> 00:23:12,760
I mean, he blackballed my career

391
00:23:12,793 --> 00:23:15,029
because I had the wherewithal
to refuse him.

392
00:23:15,062 --> 00:23:16,597
How do you know that?

393
00:23:16,631 --> 00:23:18,132
I would be standing
with other actresses,

394
00:23:18,165 --> 00:23:19,533
and he would blank me.

395
00:23:19,567 --> 00:23:21,636
There were roles
for which I was up

396
00:23:21,669 --> 00:23:23,571
that I mysteriously did not get,

397
00:23:23,604 --> 00:23:25,940
and I know today that it was
Harvey making a phone call.

398
00:23:25,973 --> 00:23:30,443
You know I did an article about
it, and nobody did anything.

399
00:23:30,477 --> 00:23:33,514
You didn't identify him,
but did industry people know

400
00:23:33,547 --> 00:23:35,216
who you were talking about
in your article?

401
00:23:35,249 --> 00:23:36,851
Absolutely.

402
00:23:36,884 --> 00:23:39,987
And the abuse came raining down
on me, not on him.

403
00:23:40,021 --> 00:23:41,188
You know at the Women's March

404
00:23:41,222 --> 00:23:42,990
when I did
the "Nasty Woman" poem?

405
00:23:43,024 --> 00:23:45,927
I lost a huge advertising gig
because a small group of people

406
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,063
complained that I was
quoting the president.

407
00:23:49,096 --> 00:23:51,565
He used that language
and got elected.

408
00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:54,535
I quoted him, and I got fired.

409
00:23:54,568 --> 00:23:57,605
It is decades later,
and it's still the same sexism.

410
00:23:57,638 --> 00:24:01,075
And, Jodi, I would make
the same choices all over again,

411
00:24:01,108 --> 00:24:03,577
but I also would like to work.

412
00:24:06,814 --> 00:24:09,482
<i>Lisa Bloom, the lawyer,</i>
<i>she wrote to me.</i>

413
00:24:09,517 --> 00:24:11,085
-Gloria Allred's daughter?
-Yeah.

414
00:24:11,118 --> 00:24:12,720
-Do you know her?
-No.

415
00:24:12,753 --> 00:24:14,522
But I assume she wants to help.

416
00:24:14,555 --> 00:24:16,123
I forwarded the email to Emily.

417
00:24:17,591 --> 00:24:18,859
I'm looking at it right now.

418
00:24:18,893 --> 00:24:21,729
Yeah.
This is straight from legal.

419
00:24:23,097 --> 00:24:25,967
Jodi? Lisa Bloom.

420
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,568
"Big announcement:

421
00:24:27,601 --> 00:24:29,537
"My book, <i>Suspicion Nation,</i>
is being produced

422
00:24:29,570 --> 00:24:32,106
by Harvey Weinstein and Jay-Z."

423
00:24:32,139 --> 00:24:34,809
Weinstein is producing her book?

424
00:24:34,842 --> 00:24:37,778
Lisa Bloom,
daughter of feminist icon,

425
00:24:37,812 --> 00:24:39,981
is working with
Harvey Weinstein.

426
00:24:40,014 --> 00:24:41,716
But why would she do that?

427
00:24:41,749 --> 00:24:43,718
How much do you get paid
for a miniseries?

428
00:24:43,751 --> 00:24:46,587
He's got to be behind
Lisa reaching out to you.

429
00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:49,489
So Weinstein knows
what we're doing.

430
00:24:57,164 --> 00:24:58,866
Sorry.

431
00:25:01,869 --> 00:25:04,805
Do you want
to keep going with Trump?

432
00:25:04,839 --> 00:25:07,875
Or you could join Jodi
and look into Harvey Weinstein.

433
00:25:10,911 --> 00:25:14,615
I worry about
whether it makes a difference.

434
00:25:14,648 --> 00:25:16,650
These women spoke out
against Trump,

435
00:25:16,684 --> 00:25:18,019
and he still became president.

436
00:25:18,052 --> 00:25:20,721
But in the wake of O'Reilly,
there's possibility.

437
00:25:20,755 --> 00:25:22,723
Sorry.

438
00:25:23,657 --> 00:25:25,993
Craig. I've been trying
to reach you.

439
00:25:27,294 --> 00:25:29,330
You've got to show up.

440
00:25:29,363 --> 00:25:31,632
How's your daughter?

441
00:25:31,665 --> 00:25:33,901
She's great.

442
00:25:35,069 --> 00:25:37,304
Oh, s-- um...

443
00:25:37,338 --> 00:25:39,173
Sorry. I, um...

444
00:25:39,206 --> 00:25:43,010
Thank you
for the gift you, um...

445
00:25:43,811 --> 00:25:45,913
Is anything bothering you?

446
00:25:45,946 --> 00:25:48,682
Besides no sleep
and diapers everywhere.

447
00:25:50,317 --> 00:25:52,153
Are you okay?

448
00:25:54,355 --> 00:25:57,324
I found it quite...

449
00:25:57,358 --> 00:25:59,927
difficult.

450
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:01,662
I'm sorry.

451
00:26:01,695 --> 00:26:03,297
Will working help?

452
00:26:03,330 --> 00:26:06,067
Yeah. Yeah.

453
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:07,334
Absolutely.

454
00:26:07,368 --> 00:26:09,036
It's better now.

455
00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:19,180
Megan.

456
00:26:19,213 --> 00:26:20,881
Hey.

457
00:26:34,195 --> 00:26:37,131
Are they all famous?

458
00:26:37,164 --> 00:26:38,699
Most of them, yes.

459
00:26:39,433 --> 00:26:41,969
I guess my question
is just, like:

460
00:26:42,002 --> 00:26:44,238
Is this the best use
of our time?

461
00:26:44,271 --> 00:26:45,773
Like, as opposed to

462
00:26:45,806 --> 00:26:48,843
other people we could
potentially be covering.

463
00:26:48,876 --> 00:26:52,246
People who can't speak out.
Actresses already have a voice.

464
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:54,048
But they could also fear
being punished

465
00:26:54,081 --> 00:26:56,150
by the film industry
for using it.

466
00:26:56,183 --> 00:26:58,719
Sure.

467
00:26:58,752 --> 00:27:01,956
But what is it exactly
that we're looking at here?

468
00:27:01,989 --> 00:27:05,726
We're looking at extreme sexual
harassment in the workplace.

469
00:27:06,427 --> 00:27:08,262
These young women walked into

470
00:27:08,295 --> 00:27:10,397
what they all had reason to
believe were business meetings

471
00:27:10,431 --> 00:27:12,299
with a producer, an employer.

472
00:27:12,333 --> 00:27:14,068
They were hopeful.

473
00:27:14,101 --> 00:27:16,270
They were expecting a serious
conversation about their work

474
00:27:16,303 --> 00:27:17,972
or a possible project.

475
00:27:18,005 --> 00:27:21,809
Instead, they say he met them
with threats and sexual demands.

476
00:27:21,842 --> 00:27:24,411
They claim assault and rape.

477
00:27:24,445 --> 00:27:26,747
If that can happen
to Hollywood actresses,

478
00:27:26,780 --> 00:27:29,016
who else is it happening to?

479
00:27:30,050 --> 00:27:32,186
Do you think his employees
were targeted, too?

480
00:27:32,219 --> 00:27:34,788
I do.

481
00:27:36,957 --> 00:27:41,328
I could search for any police
complaints against Miramax.

482
00:27:41,362 --> 00:27:43,964
Or court records.

483
00:27:44,932 --> 00:27:46,267
Should I?

484
00:27:47,268 --> 00:27:49,003
Yes.

485
00:27:49,036 --> 00:27:50,471
I found records of a complaint

486
00:27:50,505 --> 00:27:53,007
against Miramax from 2001,

487
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,443
but the report was closed out
the same day it was made.

488
00:27:56,477 --> 00:27:59,046
It says, "complainant elected
court action,"

489
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:01,115
but then
no court documents exist,

490
00:28:01,148 --> 00:28:02,750
which seems inconsistent.

491
00:28:02,783 --> 00:28:05,452
Do you have
any more information on that?

492
00:28:05,486 --> 00:28:06,887
No, those records

493
00:28:06,921 --> 00:28:09,190
would have been destroyed.

494
00:28:09,223 --> 00:28:10,491
Really? Why?

495
00:28:10,525 --> 00:28:12,193
It's agency policy.

496
00:28:12,226 --> 00:28:15,429
All records are destroyed
after three years.

497
00:28:15,462 --> 00:28:17,331
Why is that?

498
00:28:17,364 --> 00:28:20,801
As I said, it's policy.

499
00:28:21,468 --> 00:28:23,037
So could you please tell me

500
00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:26,073
who filed the
sexual harassment complaint?

501
00:28:26,106 --> 00:28:28,742
No, I cannot.

502
00:28:28,776 --> 00:28:31,212
-Because?
-It's policy.

503
00:28:31,245 --> 00:28:34,516
We are prohibited
from giving you that name.

504
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:37,251
Is that everything?

505
00:28:37,284 --> 00:28:39,086
This is very important.

506
00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:42,356
It's about someone who's still
very powerful in the workplace.

507
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:44,925
Who could still be
harassing someone.

508
00:28:44,959 --> 00:28:47,728
Is there any way
you can help me?

509
00:28:51,065 --> 00:28:53,501
You could ask me the name
of the government investigator

510
00:28:53,535 --> 00:28:55,469
who was assigned the case.

511
00:28:55,503 --> 00:28:58,272
I could give you
that information.

512
00:28:58,305 --> 00:29:00,274
-Just a name.
-Thank you.

513
00:29:02,009 --> 00:29:05,246
I've made 20 calls
to track this investigator.

514
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,283
What did Lisa Bloom say?

515
00:29:09,316 --> 00:29:13,521
She just talked as though
he was kind of naughty.

516
00:29:13,555 --> 00:29:15,856
She was talking to me
kind of Jew-to-Jew

517
00:29:15,889 --> 00:29:18,259
and including Weinstein
in the gang.

518
00:29:18,292 --> 00:29:20,127
Oh.

519
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,398
I had a long conversation with
Lena Dunham and Jenni Konner.

520
00:29:24,431 --> 00:29:27,268
They want to help,
and they have so many numbers.

521
00:29:27,301 --> 00:29:28,936
Amazing.

522
00:29:28,969 --> 00:29:30,404
Did you know them before?

523
00:29:30,437 --> 00:29:32,574
I don't know anyone.

524
00:29:32,607 --> 00:29:34,475
In April, when I started...

525
00:29:34,509 --> 00:29:36,410
-Mm.
-...I was literally leaving...

526
00:29:36,443 --> 00:29:38,412
It's the investigator.

527
00:29:38,445 --> 00:29:39,813
Hi. This is Megan Twohey.

528
00:29:39,847 --> 00:29:41,115
Thank you
for getting back to me.

529
00:29:41,148 --> 00:29:43,518
Sure. How can I help?

530
00:29:43,551 --> 00:29:45,152
Do you remember the case?

531
00:29:45,185 --> 00:29:47,321
There are hundreds
of sexual harassment cases

532
00:29:47,354 --> 00:29:49,290
at that agency.

533
00:29:49,323 --> 00:29:50,858
This one was brought to you,

534
00:29:50,891 --> 00:29:53,394
and then it was closed
very quickly.

535
00:29:53,427 --> 00:29:55,896
That's not unusual.

536
00:29:55,929 --> 00:29:59,266
It was filed against Miramax.

537
00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:02,036
What's Miramax?

538
00:30:05,072 --> 00:30:07,174
<i>Harvey, I've read</i>
<i>the thorough reports,</i>

539
00:30:07,207 --> 00:30:11,378
<i>and Rose comes across as</i>
<i>a disturbed, pathological liar.</i>

540
00:30:11,412 --> 00:30:14,516
<i>Clearly, she must be stopped</i>
<i>in her ridiculous,</i>

541
00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:16,417
<i>defamatory attacks on you.</i>

542
00:30:16,450 --> 00:30:17,885
<i>She is dangerous.</i>

543
00:30:17,918 --> 00:30:19,521
<i>You are right to be concerned.</i>

544
00:30:19,554 --> 00:30:23,857
<i>I feel equipped to help you</i>
<i>against the Roses of the world</i>

545
00:30:23,891 --> 00:30:26,994
<i>because I have represented</i>
<i>so many of them.</i>

546
00:30:27,027 --> 00:30:29,463
<i>I'd like to meet with you</i>
<i>to go over this in some detail.</i>

547
00:30:29,496 --> 00:30:33,367
<i>You should be the hero</i>
<i>of the story, not the villain.</i>

548
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,436
<i>Best, Lisa Bloom.</i>

549
00:30:36,370 --> 00:30:38,172
I'm trying to get ahold
of this assistant

550
00:30:38,205 --> 00:30:41,342
who worked at Miramax
in her early 20s.

551
00:30:42,510 --> 00:30:44,378
One day, she just disappeared.

552
00:30:44,411 --> 00:30:47,281
All she left are her
running shoes under the table.

553
00:30:47,314 --> 00:30:49,016
I haven't been able
to find her yet,

554
00:30:49,049 --> 00:30:50,351
but her mother lives in Queens.

555
00:30:50,384 --> 00:30:53,320
I thought I'd just show up.

556
00:31:31,158 --> 00:31:32,025
Hi.

557
00:31:32,059 --> 00:31:34,995
- Hello.
- Hi.

558
00:31:35,028 --> 00:31:37,998
I was expecting your mother.

559
00:31:38,031 --> 00:31:39,567
Oh, I'll go get her.
Who should I say...

560
00:31:39,601 --> 00:31:43,270
No, it's... it's actually--
You're the one I wanted to see.

561
00:31:44,405 --> 00:31:46,006
Excuse me?

562
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:48,075
My name is Megan Twohey.

563
00:31:48,108 --> 00:31:50,477
I am an investigative reporter
for <i>The New York Times.</i>

564
00:31:52,446 --> 00:31:53,681
Would it be okay if...

565
00:31:53,715 --> 00:31:55,416
Go back upstairs.
Go see Abuelita.

566
00:32:04,659 --> 00:32:07,928
Could we talk for a minute?

567
00:32:08,663 --> 00:32:10,431
About your time at Miramax?

568
00:32:13,167 --> 00:32:15,369
I can't believe you found me.

569
00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:19,339
I've been waiting for this
for 25 years.

570
00:32:21,709 --> 00:32:24,244
I would, I would love the chance

571
00:32:24,278 --> 00:32:27,214
to ask you a couple questions.

572
00:32:29,483 --> 00:32:31,719
What do you know?

573
00:32:31,753 --> 00:32:35,723
That you were at
the beginning of your career

574
00:32:35,757 --> 00:32:37,291
and doing well.

575
00:32:38,693 --> 00:32:41,328
And that something happened.

576
00:32:43,698 --> 00:32:46,099
And then you disappeared.

577
00:32:48,101 --> 00:32:51,472
And that your father
threatened legal action.

578
00:33:03,751 --> 00:33:06,487
All I can tell you is that...

579
00:33:08,088 --> 00:33:12,493
...I had a business dispute
with Miramax.

580
00:33:13,795 --> 00:33:16,430
It was resolved.

581
00:33:16,463 --> 00:33:18,733
Amicably.

582
00:33:18,766 --> 00:33:21,368
And we've agreed
not to discuss it.

583
00:33:24,271 --> 00:33:26,173
I'm...

584
00:33:26,206 --> 00:33:28,275
I'm so glad to meet you anyway.

585
00:33:33,180 --> 00:33:35,015
So...

586
00:33:35,650 --> 00:33:38,285
...it was resolved?

587
00:33:39,152 --> 00:33:41,623
Yeah. It was.

588
00:33:50,364 --> 00:33:53,668
There are women
who have had settlements,

589
00:33:53,701 --> 00:33:56,270
and they're bound to silence,

590
00:33:56,303 --> 00:33:59,106
but we have written around them.

591
00:34:00,107 --> 00:34:02,577
There are ways to report
around that restriction.

592
00:34:02,610 --> 00:34:05,479
The source can remain anonymous.

593
00:34:09,784 --> 00:34:12,219
I should go back in.

594
00:34:16,189 --> 00:34:18,292
Look, I'm-I'm sorry.

595
00:34:18,325 --> 00:34:20,427
I've thrown a curveball into
your trip to see your mother,

596
00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:22,396
and, uh, I don't want
to keep you from your family,

597
00:34:22,429 --> 00:34:26,534
but would it be okay if I...
if I gave you my number?

598
00:34:28,302 --> 00:34:31,573
She was terrified, Jodi,
but she wants to talk.

599
00:34:31,606 --> 00:34:33,106
She really does.

600
00:34:33,140 --> 00:34:35,475
Really? That's incredible.

601
00:34:35,510 --> 00:34:38,846
Listen, Gwyneth Paltrow called,
and she told me about

602
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,148
an incident
at The Peninsula Hotel.

603
00:34:41,181 --> 00:34:42,850
The Peninsula? What the fuck?

604
00:34:42,884 --> 00:34:44,886
Exactly.
Where Ashley went to meet him.

605
00:34:44,919 --> 00:34:48,155
Shit. What happened?

606
00:34:48,188 --> 00:34:50,324
Fuck. It's her. I have to go.

607
00:34:50,357 --> 00:34:51,391
Hi.

608
00:34:51,425 --> 00:34:54,127
Megan, we just spoke.

609
00:34:54,161 --> 00:34:55,697
I'm sorry, but it's a no.

610
00:34:55,730 --> 00:34:57,599
But good luck. Honestly.

611
00:35:25,425 --> 00:35:26,828
So, if you sign it,

612
00:35:26,861 --> 00:35:28,529
you don't tell anyone
about anything?

613
00:35:28,563 --> 00:35:30,330
Yeah.

614
00:35:30,364 --> 00:35:32,800
It could've been bullying, or
sometimes it's just a big shop,

615
00:35:32,834 --> 00:35:35,603
and they don't want you
to tell their trade secrets.

616
00:35:35,637 --> 00:35:36,938
Did you sign one?

617
00:35:38,773 --> 00:35:40,508
No.

618
00:35:40,541 --> 00:35:43,578
So, shops have secrets
but newspapers don't?

619
00:35:48,281 --> 00:35:50,752
I think pretty much everyone
and everything has a secret.

620
00:35:50,785 --> 00:35:53,788
What's yours?

621
00:35:53,821 --> 00:35:55,790
I will tell you one day.

622
00:35:55,823 --> 00:35:58,726
-Do you have one?
-Of course.

623
00:36:02,295 --> 00:36:04,498
Course I have a secret.

624
00:36:14,408 --> 00:36:15,943
-So what are you saying?
-So we take a drive through

625
00:36:15,977 --> 00:36:17,578
-the redwood, huh?
-Beach? Mountain? Spa?

626
00:36:48,509 --> 00:36:50,243
-Hello?
-John Schmidt?

627
00:36:50,277 --> 00:36:52,013
-My name is Megan Twohey.
-Yeah?

628
00:36:52,046 --> 00:36:53,614
I'm a reporter for
<i>The New York Times.</i>

629
00:36:53,648 --> 00:36:55,248
-Would it be possible to speak
for a moment? -Oh.

630
00:36:55,282 --> 00:36:57,317
Uh, come in.

631
00:37:01,455 --> 00:37:03,891
I can't see
what you'd want from me.

632
00:37:03,925 --> 00:37:07,427
You were the chief
financial officer at Miramax.

633
00:37:07,461 --> 00:37:09,296
The women who received
these settlements,

634
00:37:09,329 --> 00:37:10,932
they can't speak out.

635
00:37:10,965 --> 00:37:13,601
They'll be sued if they do.

636
00:37:13,634 --> 00:37:18,271
But if someone could
speak freely about the payouts,

637
00:37:18,305 --> 00:37:20,675
that would be hugely helpful.

638
00:37:23,376 --> 00:37:25,513
What payouts, John?

639
00:37:32,653 --> 00:37:34,756
Look, I'm not asking you
to go on the record.

640
00:37:34,789 --> 00:37:37,525
Just to have your perspective

641
00:37:37,558 --> 00:37:40,528
on what might've happened
back then.

642
00:37:46,534 --> 00:37:48,770
I need to think about it.

643
00:37:50,671 --> 00:37:53,541
-Okay?
-Okay.

644
00:37:54,809 --> 00:37:56,811
Sorry just to show up.

645
00:38:00,548 --> 00:38:02,049
Good night.

646
00:38:02,083 --> 00:38:04,619
Good night.

647
00:38:21,468 --> 00:38:23,671
<i>Hi, hi. Can you hear me?</i>

648
00:38:23,704 --> 00:38:26,073
<i>- Yes.</i>
<i>- Uh, I really appreciate</i>

649
00:38:26,107 --> 00:38:27,975
<i>you talking to me on a Saturday.</i>

650
00:38:28,009 --> 00:38:30,077
<i>I hope the links were useful.</i>

651
00:38:30,111 --> 00:38:32,547
They were,
but I-I find it very strange

652
00:38:32,580 --> 00:38:36,349
that if I want to access
certain information, I can't.

653
00:38:36,383 --> 00:38:37,952
The EEOC is
all about information.

654
00:38:37,985 --> 00:38:39,787
What could you not find?

655
00:38:39,821 --> 00:38:41,622
Well, for instance,
which companies

656
00:38:41,656 --> 00:38:43,591
have had the most
sexual harassment complaints,

657
00:38:43,624 --> 00:38:45,827
but no one was permitted
to tell me that.

658
00:38:45,860 --> 00:38:48,963
Yes, that would be
confidential information.

659
00:38:48,996 --> 00:38:50,565
But do you think that's right?

660
00:38:50,598 --> 00:38:53,067
Shouldn't the Equal Employment
Opportunities Commission

661
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:55,503
be a resource for information?

662
00:38:56,537 --> 00:38:59,106
Our policies
are reviewed annually.

663
00:38:59,140 --> 00:39:00,575
So do you know internally

664
00:39:00,608 --> 00:39:02,109
which companies have
the most complaints?

665
00:39:02,143 --> 00:39:03,744
Yes, we do,

666
00:39:03,778 --> 00:39:07,515
but we're not allowed
to disclose that information.

667
00:39:07,548 --> 00:39:11,786
So any woman applying for a job
is not allowed to check

668
00:39:11,819 --> 00:39:15,122
the record of that employer
in terms of harassment?

669
00:39:15,156 --> 00:39:16,757
That's right.

670
00:39:16,791 --> 00:39:19,527
You-you should probably
talk to someone higher up.

671
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,529
I-I'm... I'm going to.

672
00:39:21,562 --> 00:39:24,799
I will, but don't you think
that's strange?

673
00:39:24,832 --> 00:39:26,934
That the commission is there
to protect people

674
00:39:26,968 --> 00:39:30,872
but its policy prohibits
sharing the information needed

675
00:39:30,905 --> 00:39:32,740
to protect them?

676
00:39:32,773 --> 00:39:35,475
Megan, I'm not
the head of the EEOC.

677
00:39:35,509 --> 00:39:37,812
I was just trying to help.

678
00:39:37,845 --> 00:39:40,014
And you, and you have.
And it's the weekend.

679
00:39:40,047 --> 00:39:42,183
-I really thank you.
-Okay.

680
00:39:42,216 --> 00:39:43,584
- Okay.
- Goodbye.

681
00:39:43,618 --> 00:39:46,187
Oh, my gosh.

682
00:39:46,220 --> 00:39:48,122
Amazing.

683
00:39:48,155 --> 00:39:49,891
Incredible.

684
00:39:49,924 --> 00:39:52,860
Mira or the Equal Employment
Opportunities Commission?

685
00:39:54,228 --> 00:39:56,764
Both.

686
00:39:56,797 --> 00:39:58,866
-Hi.
-Hi.

687
00:40:01,068 --> 00:40:03,504
-We're like reporting twins.
-Yeah.

688
00:40:03,537 --> 00:40:06,540
-Should I go up and change?
-No, let's go.

689
00:40:08,042 --> 00:40:09,143
-You look amazing.
-Nice.

690
00:40:17,585 --> 00:40:19,520
-Hi. How was your ride?
-Hi. -Hi.

691
00:40:19,553 --> 00:40:20,688
-Yeah, it was...
-Great.

692
00:40:20,721 --> 00:40:22,089
It was good.

693
00:40:22,123 --> 00:40:23,658
I'm Helen.
I'm Gwyneth's assistant.

694
00:40:23,691 --> 00:40:25,026
Gwyneth will be right with you.

695
00:40:25,059 --> 00:40:26,694
Thank you.

696
00:40:30,665 --> 00:40:33,534
So it's a total pattern,
a pattern of behavior.

697
00:40:33,567 --> 00:40:34,902
Gwyneth was invited
to the hotel room,

698
00:40:34,936 --> 00:40:37,238
the business meeting,
and then threatened with

699
00:40:37,271 --> 00:40:38,873
losing her job
if she refused him.

700
00:40:38,906 --> 00:40:41,943
She told her agent.
No one does a thing.

701
00:40:41,976 --> 00:40:44,245
Will Gwyneth go on the record?

702
00:40:44,278 --> 00:40:45,579
She really wants to.

703
00:40:45,613 --> 00:40:46,814
I-I think she does
and she doesn't.

704
00:40:46,847 --> 00:40:49,116
She's scared
that it could turn into

705
00:40:49,150 --> 00:40:51,118
some kind of
tabloidy sex scandal.

706
00:40:51,152 --> 00:40:54,487
I mean, Gwyneth was 23.
So was Rose.

707
00:40:54,522 --> 00:40:56,489
They were so young.

708
00:40:56,524 --> 00:40:58,125
Tell me everything
when you get in.

709
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:00,061
Okay. Bye.

710
00:41:04,065 --> 00:41:06,634
The only way these women
are gonna go on the record...

711
00:41:06,667 --> 00:41:08,736
Is if they all jump together.

712
00:41:09,937 --> 00:41:11,906
Yeah.

713
00:41:21,215 --> 00:41:23,150
You take the lead on this.

714
00:41:23,184 --> 00:41:25,753
No, you do it.
You're less intimidating.

715
00:41:25,786 --> 00:41:28,022
You don't find me intimidating?

716
00:41:29,290 --> 00:41:31,993
No, I mean--
No, it's just the height thing.

717
00:41:32,026 --> 00:41:33,194
Hi.

718
00:41:33,227 --> 00:41:36,263
Hi. We were just
in the neighborhood.

719
00:41:36,297 --> 00:41:37,865
We're from <i>The New York Times.</i>

720
00:41:37,898 --> 00:41:40,901
I believe you used to work
for Harvey Weinstein?

721
00:41:47,308 --> 00:41:50,111
Think she'll go on the record?

722
00:41:50,144 --> 00:41:51,545
Okay. I'm just gonna...

723
00:41:51,579 --> 00:41:54,048
You want to leave the note?
Yeah.

724
00:42:02,990 --> 00:42:05,726
The NDAs are never examined
or questioned.

725
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,595
They rarely come up
in open court.

726
00:42:07,628 --> 00:42:09,063
Law schools don't teach them.

727
00:42:09,096 --> 00:42:11,265
Also, the attorneys
who represent the victims

728
00:42:11,298 --> 00:42:13,734
can get up to 40%
of the settlement.

729
00:42:13,768 --> 00:42:15,770
That's a big incentive
to keep that system going.

730
00:42:15,803 --> 00:42:18,739
Most sexual harassment cases
are settled out of court.

731
00:42:18,773 --> 00:42:21,075
And most of them have
a confidentiality clause.

732
00:42:21,108 --> 00:42:23,644
And the women who sign these
contracts have to give over

733
00:42:23,677 --> 00:42:26,714
all of their evidence:
their diaries, emails, phones.

734
00:42:26,747 --> 00:42:28,049
It's cash for silence,

735
00:42:28,082 --> 00:42:30,117
and it enables the perpetrators
to continue.

736
00:42:30,151 --> 00:42:32,787
And these clauses
are standard practice.

737
00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:34,588
The women want
to close the case.

738
00:42:34,622 --> 00:42:36,023
They need the money. They...

739
00:42:36,057 --> 00:42:38,192
They don't want to be branded
as liars or flirts.

740
00:42:38,225 --> 00:42:41,595
I mean, I'm sure it-it often
seems like the only recourse.

741
00:42:41,629 --> 00:42:43,798
And I imagine some women
see these settlements

742
00:42:43,831 --> 00:42:45,633
as a confession of guilt.

743
00:42:45,666 --> 00:42:47,201
They think
they've scored a victory

744
00:42:47,234 --> 00:42:49,136
when it's actually a gag order.

745
00:42:49,170 --> 00:42:51,639
And if you try and take a case
like this to court,

746
00:42:51,672 --> 00:42:53,707
the sexual harassment laws
are so weak.

747
00:42:53,741 --> 00:42:55,810
They're actually nonexistent
if you're a freelancer

748
00:42:55,843 --> 00:42:57,945
or if there are fewer than
15 employees in the workplace.

749
00:42:57,978 --> 00:42:59,880
Also, most lawyers
prefer settlements

750
00:42:59,914 --> 00:43:02,349
'cause it's less of
a financial risk for them.

751
00:43:02,383 --> 00:43:04,118
How close are
any of these actresses

752
00:43:04,151 --> 00:43:05,286
to going on the record?

753
00:43:05,319 --> 00:43:07,988
We're introducing the idea.

754
00:43:08,022 --> 00:43:10,658
I'm afraid we have these
horrific hotel room accounts

755
00:43:10,691 --> 00:43:12,159
and no corroborating evidence.

756
00:43:12,193 --> 00:43:16,330
We feel they'll speak out
if they're not the only ones.

757
00:43:16,363 --> 00:43:17,698
Safety in numbers.

758
00:43:17,731 --> 00:43:19,333
And settlements?

759
00:43:19,366 --> 00:43:22,303
Three. So far.

760
00:43:22,336 --> 00:43:24,271
There's Rose McGowan.

761
00:43:24,305 --> 00:43:26,841
We're pretty sure about
Ambra Battilana.

762
00:43:26,874 --> 00:43:30,111
And I would say the same for
the ex-assistant in Queens.

763
00:43:30,144 --> 00:43:31,312
And no documents?

764
00:43:31,345 --> 00:43:33,781
We do not have
a publishable story.

765
00:43:37,284 --> 00:43:39,153
Hey.

766
00:43:39,186 --> 00:43:40,821
So, look, team.

767
00:43:40,855 --> 00:43:43,390
You have to imagine
that every call you make

768
00:43:43,424 --> 00:43:44,859
is being recorded.

769
00:43:44,892 --> 00:43:46,961
And you're being followed.

770
00:43:46,994 --> 00:43:50,798
Don't let Weinstein talk to you,
unless it's on the record.

771
00:43:50,831 --> 00:43:54,001
I'd be interested in talking
to him even off the record.

772
00:43:54,034 --> 00:43:56,437
No, if Harvey has
something to say,

773
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:58,439
he needs to say it publicly.

774
00:43:58,472 --> 00:44:00,674
I've dealt with him before.

775
00:44:00,708 --> 00:44:02,143
It's ugly.

776
00:44:03,444 --> 00:44:05,045
<i>We're looking into the incident</i>

777
00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:07,148
<i>with Ambra Battilana Gutierrez.</i>

778
00:44:07,181 --> 00:44:10,050
She accused Weinstein
of groping her.

779
00:44:10,084 --> 00:44:13,087
The NYPD gave her a wire,
and she met him again.

780
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,356
But the D.A. wouldn't prosecute.

781
00:44:15,389 --> 00:44:18,159
They claimed the recording
wasn't enough to arrest him.

782
00:44:18,192 --> 00:44:21,128
Linda Fairstein
worked in the D.A.'s office.

783
00:44:21,162 --> 00:44:22,763
I've texted her.

784
00:45:58,993 --> 00:46:01,128
Linda, Megan Twohey here.
How are you?

785
00:46:01,161 --> 00:46:02,429
I'm good, Megan.

786
00:46:02,463 --> 00:46:03,931
How can I help?

787
00:46:03,964 --> 00:46:05,567
Yeah, I'm looking into
a police complaint

788
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,936
against Harvey Weinstein that
wasn't charged two years ago.

789
00:46:08,969 --> 00:46:11,005
When you were
at the D.A.'s office.

790
00:46:11,038 --> 00:46:13,307
Ambra Battilana Gutierrez.

791
00:46:13,340 --> 00:46:16,010
Oh. Okay.

792
00:46:16,043 --> 00:46:19,046
It seemed to go away
very quickly.

793
00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:20,814
There was
no criminal conduct there.

794
00:46:20,848 --> 00:46:24,852
The cops seemed
pretty confident there was.

795
00:46:24,885 --> 00:46:26,521
Do you think
there was anything irregular

796
00:46:26,554 --> 00:46:27,555
about how it was handled?

797
00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:29,323
I don't.

798
00:46:29,356 --> 00:46:30,858
Why would you say that?

799
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,495
Gwyneth.

800
00:46:34,529 --> 00:46:36,030
He's here.

801
00:46:36,063 --> 00:46:39,099
I invited a few people over,
and he turned up.

802
00:46:39,133 --> 00:46:40,901
I haven't seen him for years.

803
00:46:40,934 --> 00:46:43,103
He must know I spoke to you.

804
00:46:43,137 --> 00:46:45,439
Why are you so certain
there was no criminal conduct?

805
00:46:45,472 --> 00:46:47,107
Wasn't there a recording?

806
00:46:47,141 --> 00:46:48,576
Uh...

807
00:46:48,610 --> 00:46:50,512
I don't think
there's a road to go down.

808
00:46:50,545 --> 00:46:52,146
No.

809
00:46:53,113 --> 00:46:55,015
Do you feel like you're in
physical danger at all?

810
00:46:55,049 --> 00:46:57,484
I'll keep people
around me till he goes.

811
00:46:57,519 --> 00:46:59,320
It's a shock.
I know he's watching me.

812
00:46:59,353 --> 00:47:01,221
He's letting me know.

813
00:47:02,356 --> 00:47:04,458
He can't do anything.

814
00:47:04,491 --> 00:47:05,993
Gwyneth.

815
00:47:06,026 --> 00:47:08,495
I'm here.
Call me if you need me.

816
00:47:08,530 --> 00:47:10,164
Okay. Bye.

817
00:47:11,666 --> 00:47:13,867
Linda, do you know Harvey?

818
00:47:13,901 --> 00:47:15,603
I've met him socially,

819
00:47:15,637 --> 00:47:18,172
but we've never been
to each other's homes.

820
00:47:18,205 --> 00:47:19,940
Okay.

821
00:47:19,973 --> 00:47:22,376
-I'm sure we'll speak soon.
-Yes.

822
00:47:22,409 --> 00:47:24,878
Goodbye.

823
00:47:29,551 --> 00:47:32,554
We got a good lead to talk
to a past executive at Miramax.

824
00:47:32,587 --> 00:47:34,154
- Great. When will that be?
- Hey. Hola.

825
00:47:34,188 --> 00:47:35,623
Jodi's talking to her tomorrow.

826
00:47:35,657 --> 00:47:36,990
Hey, I don't think
she heard you.

827
00:47:37,024 --> 00:47:38,292
She definitely didn't hear you.

828
00:47:38,325 --> 00:47:41,028
-Oh, my God.
-What?

829
00:47:41,663 --> 00:47:44,632
Ronan Farrow is working on

830
00:47:44,666 --> 00:47:47,434
an H.W. piece
for <i>The New Yorker.</i>

831
00:47:47,468 --> 00:47:48,603
What? Since when?

832
00:47:48,636 --> 00:47:50,304
- Fuck.
- She doesn't say,

833
00:47:50,337 --> 00:47:53,508
but apparently he's spoken
to a lot of actresses already.

834
00:47:53,541 --> 00:47:54,509
Okay, ladies.

835
00:47:54,542 --> 00:47:56,176
These are the menus.

836
00:47:56,210 --> 00:47:57,612
- Thank you. -All right.
- Thank you.

837
00:47:57,645 --> 00:47:59,547
It's pressure we can do without,

838
00:47:59,581 --> 00:48:03,984
but we just keep going,
and we continue to be thorough.

839
00:48:04,017 --> 00:48:05,986
Pardon me. Excuse me.
Hello. Hi. Hello, everyone.

840
00:48:06,019 --> 00:48:07,921
Uh, did you, did you see
my friend over there?

841
00:48:07,955 --> 00:48:09,256
He-he said hi.

842
00:48:09,289 --> 00:48:10,157
Could you leave us?

843
00:48:10,190 --> 00:48:12,092
-We're talking.
-I absolutely will.

844
00:48:12,126 --> 00:48:13,427
I totally understand,
but I was just thinking

845
00:48:13,460 --> 00:48:15,129
maybe I could just have
a moment of your time.

846
00:48:15,162 --> 00:48:16,130
All right, man.
We're having a conversation.

847
00:48:16,163 --> 00:48:17,398
So, if you could just...

848
00:48:17,431 --> 00:48:18,932
You should be doing
something else, though.

849
00:48:18,966 --> 00:48:20,401
- Fuck you.
- Fuck you?

850
00:48:20,434 --> 00:48:21,536
I would bend you over...

851
00:48:21,569 --> 00:48:23,170
Fuck you!

852
00:48:24,037 --> 00:48:25,540
Fuck you!
Get the fuck out of here!

853
00:48:25,573 --> 00:48:27,675
Fuck you, man! Get the fuck out!

854
00:48:30,545 --> 00:48:31,646
-Wow.
-Frigid bitches.

855
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:34,181
Frigid bitches.

856
00:48:35,650 --> 00:48:37,552
- Sorry.
- Don't apologize.

857
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:57,739
There was an incident
in Venice at the film festival.

858
00:48:57,772 --> 00:49:00,575
It was '98.

859
00:49:00,608 --> 00:49:02,342
What happened?

860
00:49:05,780 --> 00:49:09,617
What makes me most angry
is the silence.

861
00:49:09,651 --> 00:49:14,221
No one spoke out then, and
no one is talking about it now.

862
00:49:14,254 --> 00:49:17,324
He built the silence,
and people complied.

863
00:49:17,357 --> 00:49:20,294
He produced fear
and intimidation.

864
00:49:20,327 --> 00:49:22,362
The only alternative,
seemingly, was to quit

865
00:49:22,396 --> 00:49:25,332
and throw away everything
you worked so hard for

866
00:49:25,365 --> 00:49:26,467
out the door.

867
00:49:26,501 --> 00:49:28,603
You were terrified you were
gonna be the next target,

868
00:49:28,636 --> 00:49:30,471
so people looked the other way.

869
00:49:30,505 --> 00:49:34,074
-Within the company?
-Yes, and outside of it.

870
00:49:34,107 --> 00:49:36,711
I mean, he played the press.
He played the agents.

871
00:49:36,744 --> 00:49:38,613
How did he play the press?

872
00:49:38,646 --> 00:49:40,347
By promising them
access to stars

873
00:49:40,380 --> 00:49:42,483
in exchange for
hushing up some incident.

874
00:49:42,517 --> 00:49:44,451
What sort of incident?

875
00:49:45,285 --> 00:49:47,655
Where do I start?

876
00:49:47,689 --> 00:49:50,457
Harvey had this--
what did they call it?--

877
00:49:50,491 --> 00:49:56,163
"a physical altercation" with a
male employee at a conference.

878
00:49:56,196 --> 00:49:57,665
Then they settled with the guy.

879
00:49:57,699 --> 00:50:00,100
And with women?

880
00:50:01,401 --> 00:50:03,370
He pursued them.

881
00:50:03,403 --> 00:50:05,205
Endlessly.

882
00:50:08,275 --> 00:50:10,410
What happened in Venice?

883
00:50:12,547 --> 00:50:14,348
I don't want to be quoted.

884
00:50:14,381 --> 00:50:15,315
Period.

885
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:17,317
Understood.

886
00:50:21,288 --> 00:50:22,657
We were in Harvey's suite,

887
00:50:22,690 --> 00:50:25,660
and there were
a bunch of people in there.

888
00:50:25,693 --> 00:50:28,195
And there were
these two assistants,

889
00:50:28,228 --> 00:50:31,064
and they were
sitting there trembling.

890
00:50:31,098 --> 00:50:32,734
And Weinstein was there?

891
00:50:32,767 --> 00:50:34,802
Yes.

892
00:50:34,836 --> 00:50:38,405
He was talking film
and ignoring them,

893
00:50:38,438 --> 00:50:41,341
but they were
literally vibrating.

894
00:50:41,375 --> 00:50:45,112
One with fear,
the other with anger.

895
00:50:47,314 --> 00:50:49,283
Can you tell me their names?

896
00:50:49,316 --> 00:50:51,151
Yes.

897
00:50:56,189 --> 00:50:59,694
And there's another woman
you should, you should call.

898
00:50:59,727 --> 00:51:03,330
The two assistants are
Rowena Chiu and Zelda Perkins,

899
00:51:03,363 --> 00:51:06,433
and we have a third name,
Laura Madden.

900
00:51:06,466 --> 00:51:09,202
And none of them
are returning our calls.

901
00:51:09,236 --> 00:51:11,171
So? Show up in person.

902
00:51:11,204 --> 00:51:13,440
Yeah.

903
00:51:13,473 --> 00:51:17,779
They live in London,
Silicon Valley and Wales.

904
00:51:17,812 --> 00:51:20,213
Can you get on a plane?

905
00:51:26,888 --> 00:51:30,290
Let me work it out with Ron.

906
00:51:32,894 --> 00:51:35,897
But yeah, of course.

907
00:51:35,930 --> 00:51:37,599
Documents, verification.

908
00:51:37,632 --> 00:51:39,299
You know what we need.

909
00:52:22,677 --> 00:52:24,912
Hi.

910
00:52:24,946 --> 00:52:27,649
Sorry to bother you.
I can see you're busy.

911
00:52:27,682 --> 00:52:30,918
I was looking for Rowena Chiu.

912
00:52:30,952 --> 00:52:32,553
Hi.

913
00:52:32,587 --> 00:52:35,790
Rowena's not here right now.
Can I give her a message?

914
00:52:35,823 --> 00:52:37,859
When will she be back?

915
00:52:37,892 --> 00:52:40,795
My wife's out of the country
for a while.

916
00:52:40,828 --> 00:52:42,195
I see.

917
00:52:42,229 --> 00:52:44,799
I did try calling her.

918
00:52:44,832 --> 00:52:46,333
This a work thing?

919
00:52:46,366 --> 00:52:48,468
No. You must be Andrew?

920
00:52:48,503 --> 00:52:49,537
Andrew Cheung?

921
00:52:49,570 --> 00:52:52,540
I'm Jodi Kantor.
I'm from <i>The New York Times.</i>

922
00:52:52,573 --> 00:52:54,274
Okay.

923
00:52:54,307 --> 00:52:58,245
So, what did you want
to talk to Rowena about?

924
00:52:58,278 --> 00:53:01,348
We're researching a story
about Miramax.

925
00:53:01,381 --> 00:53:04,284
I flew in from New York.

926
00:53:04,317 --> 00:53:06,587
-You came all this way?
-Yeah.

927
00:53:07,955 --> 00:53:10,625
Um, could we talk for a minute?

928
00:53:10,658 --> 00:53:11,993
Sure.

929
00:53:12,026 --> 00:53:15,295
So, I've been speaking
with people

930
00:53:15,328 --> 00:53:18,566
who worked for Harvey Weinstein.

931
00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:22,436
You're going quite far back
with Rowena's time there.

932
00:53:22,469 --> 00:53:24,438
We're writing about
his treatment of women.

933
00:53:24,471 --> 00:53:25,740
Right.

934
00:53:25,773 --> 00:53:28,843
And Rowena fits in how?

935
00:53:29,744 --> 00:53:33,380
Your wife worked at Miramax
for some years.

936
00:53:33,413 --> 00:53:35,382
Yes.

937
00:53:35,415 --> 00:53:36,651
Mainly in Hong Kong.

938
00:53:36,684 --> 00:53:38,653
Like to hear about
her experiences

939
00:53:38,686 --> 00:53:40,320
working for Weinstein.

940
00:53:40,353 --> 00:53:43,256
I'm confused why you can't
discuss it on the phone.

941
00:53:43,290 --> 00:53:45,660
I did try.

942
00:53:45,693 --> 00:53:48,228
It is always better
to actually meet.

943
00:53:49,897 --> 00:53:51,733
So...

944
00:53:53,501 --> 00:53:56,571
And this is off the record.

945
00:53:56,604 --> 00:53:58,639
My understanding is that...

946
00:53:58,673 --> 00:54:00,608
that Weinstein
possibly victimized your wife

947
00:54:00,641 --> 00:54:02,844
when Rowena
first worked for him.

948
00:54:06,379 --> 00:54:10,017
Rowena's never mentioned
anything like that to me.

949
00:54:10,051 --> 00:54:11,886
What-what do you mean
by "victimized"?

950
00:54:11,919 --> 00:54:13,521
Can you be more specific?

951
00:54:14,822 --> 00:54:16,389
I was told that your wife

952
00:54:16,423 --> 00:54:18,793
may have received a settlement
from Weinstein.

953
00:54:19,761 --> 00:54:23,263
Do I look like a guy
whose wife got a settlement?

954
00:54:24,498 --> 00:54:26,968
Could you have confused her
with someone else?

955
00:54:27,001 --> 00:54:29,904
I-I... I apologize
for taking up your time.

956
00:54:29,937 --> 00:54:31,371
I'm...

957
00:54:31,404 --> 00:54:34,609
Will you just please
give this to Rowena?

958
00:54:34,642 --> 00:54:36,043
If you're talking
to these other people,

959
00:54:36,077 --> 00:54:37,545
why do you need
to talk to Rowena?

960
00:54:37,578 --> 00:54:40,782
And if you turn up
in my driveway,

961
00:54:40,815 --> 00:54:42,583
what kind of victimization?

962
00:54:42,617 --> 00:54:44,018
It's complex.

963
00:54:44,051 --> 00:54:46,386
I'm asking you to expand on it.

964
00:54:46,419 --> 00:54:50,525
I really think
it would be best...

965
00:54:51,391 --> 00:54:53,326
...if you asked Rowena.

966
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,328
Have a good day.

967
00:55:07,575 --> 00:55:09,677
<i>I just couldn't lie to him.</i>

968
00:55:09,710 --> 00:55:12,113
And then it turns out
he didn't know.

969
00:55:12,146 --> 00:55:13,948
What if London is
a repeat of this?

970
00:55:13,981 --> 00:55:15,516
It won't be.

971
00:55:15,550 --> 00:55:17,718
I spoke with an
employment lawyer in the U.K.,

972
00:55:17,752 --> 00:55:21,388
and he told me that
it was irresponsible of me

973
00:55:21,421 --> 00:55:23,423
even to ask about
breaching NDAs.

974
00:55:23,456 --> 00:55:24,992
No one does it.
They would get sued.

975
00:55:25,026 --> 00:55:26,627
Fuck that guy.

976
00:55:26,661 --> 00:55:29,897
Honestly, Jodi, fuck him.
He has no idea.

977
00:55:29,931 --> 00:55:32,633
I wish I smoked or something.

978
00:55:32,667 --> 00:55:35,703
I'm staring at
an actual brick wall,

979
00:55:35,736 --> 00:55:37,939
and all I can think is, "Fuck."

980
00:55:37,972 --> 00:55:40,107
That's okay.

981
00:55:40,141 --> 00:55:41,843
Fuck.

982
00:55:41,876 --> 00:55:44,477
And documents.

983
00:55:53,688 --> 00:55:57,792
So, Laura, we are looking at
a full mastectomy.

984
00:55:57,825 --> 00:56:01,863
And we should schedule this
as soon as possible.

985
00:56:01,896 --> 00:56:03,598
I understand.

986
00:56:12,039 --> 00:56:13,641
Hello.

987
00:56:13,674 --> 00:56:15,743
Hi.

988
00:56:15,776 --> 00:56:18,478
Laura, this is Jodi Kantor
from <i>The New York Times.</i>

989
00:56:18,512 --> 00:56:21,015
Um, I hope you've been
getting my messages.

990
00:56:21,048 --> 00:56:22,550
I'm in California right now,

991
00:56:22,583 --> 00:56:24,919
but I'm coming
to London tomorrow.

992
00:56:24,952 --> 00:56:26,888
Hi, Jodi.

993
00:56:26,921 --> 00:56:28,421
Hi.

994
00:56:28,455 --> 00:56:32,560
Um, I-I'm so happy to be
finally speaking with you.

995
00:56:32,593 --> 00:56:35,529
I-I understand that you once
worked for Harvey Weinstein

996
00:56:35,563 --> 00:56:37,798
in the London office of Miramax.

997
00:56:37,832 --> 00:56:39,600
Is that right?

998
00:56:40,868 --> 00:56:43,037
Laura?

999
00:56:48,876 --> 00:56:50,645
Laura.

1000
00:56:52,146 --> 00:56:54,181
Can I do anything to help?

1001
00:56:54,215 --> 00:56:57,051
No. I can't talk
about this right now.

1002
00:57:10,231 --> 00:57:12,099
Hey.

1003
00:57:12,133 --> 00:57:13,466
Hey, my love.

1004
00:57:13,501 --> 00:57:16,737
Come here. Oh.

1005
00:57:17,705 --> 00:57:19,707
Hey, now.

1006
00:57:20,574 --> 00:57:22,877
It's going to be all right.

1007
00:57:22,910 --> 00:57:25,579
- It's going to be all right.
- I'm so sorry, Mum.

1008
00:57:40,695 --> 00:57:42,229
Please refrain from smoking

1009
00:57:42,263 --> 00:57:44,098
in this building.

1010
00:57:56,610 --> 00:57:58,478
Here we are.

1011
00:58:01,148 --> 00:58:02,950
Tea.

1012
00:58:02,984 --> 00:58:04,819
Thank you.

1013
00:58:22,903 --> 00:58:25,272
You know, other people
have tried to write this story.

1014
00:58:25,306 --> 00:58:26,874
He kills it every time.

1015
00:58:26,907 --> 00:58:28,909
We're aware of that.

1016
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:32,580
And we're not gonna
let that happen to us.

1017
00:58:36,350 --> 00:58:38,052
Are you okay, Zelda?

1018
00:58:38,085 --> 00:58:39,754
Yes.

1019
00:58:41,822 --> 00:58:44,992
So, you started working
at Miramax when you were 21?

1020
00:58:45,026 --> 00:58:48,796
Yes. I was an assistant
at the London office.

1021
00:58:48,829 --> 00:58:51,032
-And how was it?
-It was great.

1022
00:58:51,065 --> 00:58:54,001
But it would shift
when Harvey came to town.

1023
00:58:54,035 --> 00:58:55,636
In what way?

1024
00:58:55,669 --> 00:58:59,340
Everyone became on call
to Harvey.

1025
00:58:59,373 --> 00:59:01,776
And what would that entail?

1026
00:59:01,809 --> 00:59:07,148
Script meetings, discussions
and more personal stuff.

1027
00:59:07,181 --> 00:59:08,682
Like?

1028
00:59:08,716 --> 00:59:11,185
For instance,
I would have to go to his hotel

1029
00:59:11,218 --> 00:59:13,320
and wake Harvey up.

1030
00:59:13,354 --> 00:59:15,056
Run his shower for him.

1031
00:59:15,089 --> 00:59:16,657
Get him out of bed.

1032
00:59:16,690 --> 00:59:18,192
He would usually be naked.

1033
00:59:18,225 --> 00:59:20,227
And he might try
to pull me onto him.

1034
00:59:20,261 --> 00:59:22,029
What did you do?

1035
00:59:22,063 --> 00:59:23,631
I'd fend him off.

1036
00:59:23,664 --> 00:59:26,667
I found humor or aggression
worked best.

1037
00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:30,604
Harvey was either
excited or furious.

1038
00:59:30,638 --> 00:59:32,840
You never knew
which it would be.

1039
00:59:33,774 --> 00:59:36,343
Did anyone on the team
give you advice about him?

1040
00:59:36,377 --> 00:59:37,978
Yes.

1041
00:59:38,012 --> 00:59:40,948
Once, one girl told me to
always wear my puffer jacket,

1042
00:59:40,981 --> 00:59:43,851
um, and to always sit
in an armchair,

1043
00:59:43,884 --> 00:59:48,022
never the sofa next to him,
which helped.

1044
00:59:48,055 --> 00:59:52,393
And that's how I knew that
it wasn't only happening to me.

1045
00:59:52,426 --> 00:59:54,829
What was happening exactly?

1046
00:59:54,862 --> 00:59:56,330
Bullying.

1047
00:59:56,363 --> 00:59:58,299
Emotional abuse.

1048
00:59:58,332 --> 01:00:01,035
I was just too young
to understand it.

1049
01:00:01,068 --> 01:00:04,338
Harvey wanted people
to submit to him.

1050
01:00:04,371 --> 01:00:05,673
And if they didn't?

1051
01:00:05,706 --> 01:00:07,108
Well, then he'd roar.

1052
01:00:07,141 --> 01:00:08,642
And he'd spit.

1053
01:00:08,676 --> 01:00:11,378
He could destroy someone
in seconds.

1054
01:00:11,412 --> 01:00:13,814
Were you scared of him?

1055
01:00:14,415 --> 01:00:17,618
Yes. We all were.

1056
01:00:19,887 --> 01:00:21,889
So, three years into this,

1057
01:00:21,922 --> 01:00:24,758
you were at
the Venice Film Festival.

1058
01:00:27,294 --> 01:00:29,997
I resigned after that.

1059
01:00:30,030 --> 01:00:33,267
-What happened?
-I can't tell you all of it.

1060
01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:35,402
What can you tell me?

1061
01:00:35,436 --> 01:00:37,972
♪ Let's sway ♪

1062
01:00:38,005 --> 01:00:43,911
♪ Under the moonlight,
this serious moonlight... ♪

1063
01:00:44,812 --> 01:00:46,380
<i>There was a new assistant.</i>

1064
01:00:46,413 --> 01:00:48,282
<i>She was my age. She was great.</i>

1065
01:00:49,383 --> 01:00:51,051
<i>She was very smart.</i>

1066
01:00:51,085 --> 01:00:53,454
<i>And she was doing Harvey's</i>
<i>evening script meeting</i>

1067
01:00:53,487 --> 01:00:55,122
<i>alone for the first time,</i>

1068
01:00:55,156 --> 01:00:58,826
<i>and I told her to call me</i>
<i>if he got difficult.</i>

1069
01:01:00,361 --> 01:01:02,229
-Was he pursuing her?
-No.

1070
01:01:03,898 --> 01:01:07,301
Harvey said, "I don't like
Jewish or Asian women."

1071
01:01:07,334 --> 01:01:09,036
-But that night...
-She called you.

1072
01:01:09,069 --> 01:01:10,070
No.

1073
01:01:11,138 --> 01:01:12,439
<i>The following morning,</i>

1074
01:01:12,473 --> 01:01:15,743
<i>she came to me,</i>
<i>and she was sobbing.</i>

1075
01:01:15,776 --> 01:01:17,411
<i>I mean, she was hysterical.</i>

1076
01:01:17,444 --> 01:01:19,113
Rowena, what happened?

1077
01:01:19,146 --> 01:01:20,915
Sit.

1078
01:01:20,948 --> 01:01:23,751
<i>-And I held her.</i>
-What is it?

1079
01:01:24,351 --> 01:01:27,254
Did she tell you what he did?

1080
01:01:28,455 --> 01:01:30,357
Not exactly.

1081
01:01:30,391 --> 01:01:32,193
Only that no one must know.

1082
01:01:32,226 --> 01:01:33,794
But I knew.

1083
01:01:33,827 --> 01:01:36,030
I knew that he must've...

1084
01:01:37,498 --> 01:01:39,066
What?

1085
01:01:39,099 --> 01:01:40,901
She was so upset.

1086
01:01:40,935 --> 01:01:45,105
I knew that it had to be
the-the worst possible thing.

1087
01:01:46,273 --> 01:01:49,210
I calmed her down, and I went
straight to confront Harvey.

1088
01:01:49,243 --> 01:01:52,346
He was in a meeting, uh,
with Scorsese, who, you know...

1089
01:01:52,379 --> 01:01:55,816
who hated him, so it was
a really big deal for Harvey.

1090
01:01:55,849 --> 01:01:59,353
And I went straight up to him,
and I said very clearly,

1091
01:01:59,386 --> 01:02:00,988
"You need to come with me
right now."

1092
01:02:01,021 --> 01:02:03,490
You went right up to them
and confronted him?

1093
01:02:03,525 --> 01:02:05,960
Yeah. I was so angry.

1094
01:02:05,993 --> 01:02:08,195
And in front of everyone,

1095
01:02:08,229 --> 01:02:11,332
he stood up and...

1096
01:02:11,365 --> 01:02:13,734
he followed me like a lamb.

1097
01:02:14,835 --> 01:02:18,372
And then I knew.
Then I knew he did it.

1098
01:02:18,405 --> 01:02:20,140
And then?

1099
01:02:20,174 --> 01:02:21,509
He denied it.

1100
01:02:21,543 --> 01:02:23,010
He said, "I swear on my wife
and kids' lives

1101
01:02:23,043 --> 01:02:24,311
that I did not assault
that young woman."

1102
01:02:24,345 --> 01:02:27,448
And then
I knew that he was lying.

1103
01:02:27,481 --> 01:02:28,949
He always used that line

1104
01:02:28,983 --> 01:02:31,151
as a "get out of jail free"
card. Always.

1105
01:02:32,052 --> 01:02:35,557
Did the assistant
report it to the police?

1106
01:02:35,590 --> 01:02:38,892
Mm. She told no one.

1107
01:02:40,494 --> 01:02:42,429
We came back to London.

1108
01:02:42,463 --> 01:02:43,797
We both resigned.

1109
01:02:43,831 --> 01:02:45,232
I told my direct superior,

1110
01:02:45,266 --> 01:02:49,537
who suggested
we get ourselves a good lawyer.

1111
01:02:49,571 --> 01:02:51,438
I had no idea where to get one.

1112
01:02:51,472 --> 01:02:53,274
I found a company
close to the office,

1113
01:02:53,307 --> 01:02:55,909
and-and then I thought
it would be simple.

1114
01:02:55,943 --> 01:02:57,144
Criminal proceedings.

1115
01:02:57,177 --> 01:02:59,313
But our lawyer said
we had no chance

1116
01:02:59,346 --> 01:03:01,482
and the only thing to do
was to agree to a settlement.

1117
01:03:01,516 --> 01:03:02,983
And I said categorically no,

1118
01:03:03,017 --> 01:03:04,552
that no money
should change hands

1119
01:03:04,586 --> 01:03:06,153
and that we just wanted
to stop him.

1120
01:03:06,186 --> 01:03:08,856
And no U.K. police
were involved?

1121
01:03:08,889 --> 01:03:10,291
We had no case.

1122
01:03:10,324 --> 01:03:12,426
We had no evidence and
no police report from Venice.

1123
01:03:12,459 --> 01:03:14,028
And, you see, with rape,

1124
01:03:14,061 --> 01:03:15,829
it is impossibly difficult
to get a prosecution.

1125
01:03:15,863 --> 01:03:17,298
And the lawyers kept saying

1126
01:03:17,331 --> 01:03:19,933
damage limitation
was the only way to go.

1127
01:03:19,967 --> 01:03:22,136
So I said, "All right, then.

1128
01:03:22,169 --> 01:03:23,904
We have our own
very real demands."

1129
01:03:23,937 --> 01:03:25,839
Conditions that Harvey
would have to meet

1130
01:03:25,873 --> 01:03:26,974
if we were to sign.

1131
01:03:27,007 --> 01:03:28,442
And what were those conditions?

1132
01:03:28,475 --> 01:03:31,111
We demanded that if Harvey
had another settlement

1133
01:03:31,145 --> 01:03:33,414
within two years, that it had
to be reported to Disney

1134
01:03:33,447 --> 01:03:34,882
or else he would be fired.

1135
01:03:34,915 --> 01:03:37,451
Another was that
he would go to therapy,

1136
01:03:37,484 --> 01:03:38,919
with me present initially

1137
01:03:38,952 --> 01:03:40,988
so that he couldn't lie
to the therapist.

1138
01:03:41,021 --> 01:03:43,591
We demanded that
HR would put in a system

1139
01:03:43,625 --> 01:03:46,060
to protect the women and staff.

1140
01:03:46,093 --> 01:03:48,962
And it felt like if we could
achieve all of those,

1141
01:03:48,996 --> 01:03:50,964
then that's what our silence
was paying for,

1142
01:03:50,998 --> 01:03:54,068
that we were paying
for him to stop.

1143
01:03:55,637 --> 01:03:57,237
So we signed.

1144
01:03:57,271 --> 01:04:00,341
And they had their own
insane conditions for us.

1145
01:04:00,374 --> 01:04:02,076
What were they?

1146
01:04:02,976 --> 01:04:04,512
I tried to commit them
to memory.

1147
01:04:04,546 --> 01:04:06,380
Um, they wouldn't give us
our own copy.

1148
01:04:06,413 --> 01:04:08,082
What?

1149
01:04:08,115 --> 01:04:10,084
I was only given visitation
rights to my own settlement.

1150
01:04:10,117 --> 01:04:12,453
That's in...

1151
01:04:12,486 --> 01:04:13,954
That's incredible.

1152
01:04:13,987 --> 01:04:16,156
But you memorized them?

1153
01:04:17,424 --> 01:04:23,030
I asked for letters, too, which
stated some of the conditions.

1154
01:04:23,063 --> 01:04:26,501
One said,
"We will make best endeavors

1155
01:04:26,534 --> 01:04:30,371
to not help the police
in a criminal or civil case."

1156
01:04:30,404 --> 01:04:35,309
We weren't allowed to talk
to our family or a doctor.

1157
01:04:37,311 --> 01:04:39,913
So finally we signed.

1158
01:04:39,947 --> 01:04:42,550
They gave us some money.

1159
01:04:42,584 --> 01:04:45,352
And I felt completely broken.

1160
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,129
<i>I interviewed</i>
<i>for other jobs afterwards,</i>

1161
01:04:55,162 --> 01:04:58,098
<i>but everyone kept saying,</i>
<i>"Why did you leave Harvey?"</i>

1162
01:05:03,705 --> 01:05:06,039
<i>They all assumed that I'd...</i>

1163
01:05:06,674 --> 01:05:08,543
...been with him, you know.

1164
01:05:08,576 --> 01:05:10,344
It was horrible.

1165
01:05:12,580 --> 01:05:14,081
What did you do then?

1166
01:05:14,114 --> 01:05:16,684
I went to visit a friend
in Guatemala,

1167
01:05:16,718 --> 01:05:18,720
and I stayed for five years.

1168
01:05:18,753 --> 01:05:22,022
I had no chance of
ever working in film again,

1169
01:05:22,055 --> 01:05:26,260
and I couldn't speak freely,
so I worked with horses.

1170
01:05:31,766 --> 01:05:33,467
You've lost a lot.

1171
01:05:41,108 --> 01:05:43,444
These are the original letters.

1172
01:05:44,746 --> 01:05:48,081
I had to have their permission
if I wanted

1173
01:05:48,115 --> 01:05:51,952
to contact a therapist
or speak to an accountant.

1174
01:05:53,287 --> 01:05:56,023
I was "never to speak
to any other media,

1175
01:05:56,056 --> 01:05:59,293
now or hereafter existing,
about it."

1176
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,131
Jodi, this is bigger
than Weinstein.

1177
01:06:04,164 --> 01:06:08,335
This is about the system
protecting abusers.

1178
01:06:09,771 --> 01:06:12,473
I want you to take these,

1179
01:06:12,507 --> 01:06:15,042
and I want you to use them.

1180
01:06:19,413 --> 01:06:21,248
Got to go now.

1181
01:06:42,169 --> 01:06:43,505
Is it dark there?

1182
01:06:43,538 --> 01:06:45,507
It's, like, 4:00 here.

1183
01:06:45,540 --> 01:06:46,641
Did you drink tea?

1184
01:06:48,075 --> 01:06:50,143
A little bit.

1185
01:06:50,177 --> 01:06:52,647
Who are you meeting?

1186
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,782
Just a few women.

1187
01:06:54,816 --> 01:06:58,051
Can you find me a shell?
And a cat hat for Violet?

1188
01:06:58,085 --> 01:06:59,253
I will work on that.

1189
01:06:59,286 --> 01:07:01,556
Have you been okay without me?

1190
01:07:01,589 --> 01:07:03,490
Sure. You're back tomorrow.

1191
01:07:03,525 --> 01:07:04,726
I am.

1192
01:07:04,759 --> 01:07:06,059
Yay!

1193
01:07:09,129 --> 01:07:12,800
So, what did they do,
the women you're meeting?

1194
01:07:12,834 --> 01:07:15,469
We'll talk about it
when you're older.

1195
01:07:15,503 --> 01:07:18,305
Are they criminals?
Bank robbers?

1196
01:07:18,338 --> 01:07:20,073
No.

1197
01:07:20,107 --> 01:07:21,241
Was it rape?

1198
01:07:25,312 --> 01:07:29,316
Talia, I don't think I've ever
heard you use that word.

1199
01:07:29,349 --> 01:07:32,587
Boys say it all the time.
And girls.

1200
01:07:32,620 --> 01:07:34,154
They shouldn't.

1201
01:07:34,187 --> 01:07:36,524
That word
shouldn't be used casually.

1202
01:07:36,558 --> 01:07:38,660
I'm sorry.

1203
01:07:38,693 --> 01:07:40,795
N-No. You did nothing wrong.

1204
01:07:40,828 --> 01:07:42,296
Are you angry with me?

1205
01:07:42,329 --> 01:07:45,165
No, Talia, no. I miss you.

1206
01:07:45,198 --> 01:07:47,301
I-I miss you like
someone took a piece out of me.

1207
01:07:50,572 --> 01:07:52,707
I lost you, Talia.

1208
01:07:52,740 --> 01:07:54,274
Talia.

1209
01:08:11,224 --> 01:08:12,694
Oh, God.

1210
01:08:12,727 --> 01:08:14,328
They're trying to survive,

1211
01:08:14,361 --> 01:08:17,732
and he's there 'cause
he's hosting the show.

1212
01:08:17,765 --> 01:08:19,901
And he's probably going to,
like, help them.

1213
01:08:19,934 --> 01:08:21,603
- He's going to kill them.
- Hello?

1214
01:08:21,636 --> 01:08:22,804
What? No!

1215
01:08:22,837 --> 01:08:24,204
-No? -May I ask
who's calling?

1216
01:08:24,237 --> 01:08:25,640
Probably going to help them,
like,

1217
01:08:25,673 --> 01:08:27,709
-if they, like, need to get in.
-Now, who's Potts?

1218
01:08:27,742 --> 01:08:29,309
I know, but

1219
01:08:29,343 --> 01:08:32,179
-they don't look like they're
having troubles... -Mum.

1220
01:08:32,212 --> 01:08:33,648
It's another call from America.

1221
01:08:33,681 --> 01:08:36,450
I told you, sweetie,
just tell any journalist, "No."

1222
01:08:36,483 --> 01:08:39,687
N-No, she says
you worked together.

1223
01:08:39,721 --> 01:08:41,288
Pamela Lubell?

1224
01:08:43,256 --> 01:08:45,693
Hywel wants to take
his yellow pillow to Cornwall.

1225
01:08:45,727 --> 01:08:47,762
-No, we're not taking...
-So?

1226
01:08:47,795 --> 01:08:49,697
We're not taking any pillows.

1227
01:08:49,731 --> 01:08:51,532
-Why?
-Pamela?

1228
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,401
God.

1229
01:08:56,269 --> 01:08:57,705
Hi, Pamela. How are you?

1230
01:08:57,739 --> 01:08:59,239
It's been decades.

1231
01:08:59,272 --> 01:09:00,775
I know, Laura.

1232
01:09:00,808 --> 01:09:03,443
It's really been a while.
How's life?

1233
01:09:03,477 --> 01:09:04,879
It's good.

1234
01:09:04,912 --> 01:09:07,749
How's everything? How are you?

1235
01:09:07,782 --> 01:09:09,884
Yeah, I'm okay.

1236
01:09:09,917 --> 01:09:11,418
That's great.

1237
01:09:11,451 --> 01:09:14,421
Laura, have you had any calls
from reporters

1238
01:09:14,454 --> 01:09:17,257
trying to write stories
about Harvey?

1239
01:09:17,290 --> 01:09:19,259
I-I have, actually. Yes.

1240
01:09:19,292 --> 01:09:21,963
I didn't talk to them.

1241
01:09:21,996 --> 01:09:23,898
Good. That's good to hear.

1242
01:09:23,931 --> 01:09:25,800
Cockroach journalists.

1243
01:09:25,833 --> 01:09:28,435
It was great, wasn't it,
back then?

1244
01:09:28,468 --> 01:09:31,405
Harvey was always very generous.

1245
01:09:31,438 --> 01:09:33,941
That wasn't my experience.

1246
01:09:33,975 --> 01:09:38,345
Laura, can I have your assurance
that you won't talk to anyone?

1247
01:09:38,378 --> 01:09:41,448
What? What did you say?

1248
01:09:41,481 --> 01:09:44,786
If you have a project,
I can take it to Harvey.

1249
01:09:44,819 --> 01:09:46,420
I don't.

1250
01:09:46,453 --> 01:09:48,589
And I'll talk to who I please.

1251
01:10:02,904 --> 01:10:04,471
- Good evening.
- Good evening.

1252
01:10:04,505 --> 01:10:06,373
I need to book
a flight to Cornwall

1253
01:10:06,406 --> 01:10:07,608
first thing in the morning.

1254
01:10:07,642 --> 01:10:10,343
-Flight to Cornwall tomorrow?
-Yes.

1255
01:10:10,377 --> 01:10:12,714
To Newquay Airport?

1256
01:10:12,747 --> 01:10:13,948
-Newquay.
-Newquay.

1257
01:10:13,981 --> 01:10:15,315
You'd normally just get a train.

1258
01:10:15,348 --> 01:10:17,451
Okay, train, then.

1259
01:10:31,331 --> 01:10:33,366
This is a nice place
for a vacation.

1260
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:34,736
-Yeah.
-Mum.

1261
01:10:34,769 --> 01:10:36,804
-Hi. -Um, Hywel wants
to play at the rocks.

1262
01:10:36,838 --> 01:10:37,839
Is that okay?

1263
01:10:37,872 --> 01:10:39,974
-Yeah, sure.
-Okay.

1264
01:10:41,374 --> 01:10:42,877
Is that your eldest?

1265
01:10:42,910 --> 01:10:44,612
Yes.

1266
01:10:45,646 --> 01:10:47,280
Yes. She's 13.

1267
01:10:49,382 --> 01:10:50,852
You grew up in Ireland?

1268
01:10:50,885 --> 01:10:53,755
I did, yes.

1269
01:10:53,788 --> 01:10:58,526
And your first job was
wrangling extras in '92?

1270
01:10:58,559 --> 01:11:00,828
They were shooting near us.

1271
01:11:00,862 --> 01:11:02,630
I loved it.

1272
01:11:02,663 --> 01:11:05,533
And then I heard that Miramax
were making a film nearby,

1273
01:11:05,566 --> 01:11:07,935
and I got a job
as a runner on that.

1274
01:11:07,969 --> 01:11:10,671
I was ecstatic. It was great.

1275
01:11:11,539 --> 01:11:15,308
And you met
Harvey Weinstein when?

1276
01:11:15,342 --> 01:11:16,778
Soon after that.

1277
01:11:16,811 --> 01:11:19,547
I was going to be
working directly for him.

1278
01:11:19,580 --> 01:11:22,817
Doing errands, answering calls.

1279
01:11:22,850 --> 01:11:25,686
I was very happy to be asked.

1280
01:11:27,655 --> 01:11:28,923
<i>He was charming.</i>

1281
01:11:28,956 --> 01:11:32,794
<i>He was saying</i>
<i>he'd heard how hard I worked.</i>

1282
01:11:32,827 --> 01:11:35,730
<i>And I was just excited.</i>

1283
01:11:36,664 --> 01:11:41,301
<i>I was 21, you know,</i>
<i>very young but incredibly keen.</i>

1284
01:11:42,435 --> 01:11:44,572
<i>So when he said</i>
<i>he'd give me a permanent job</i>

1285
01:11:44,605 --> 01:11:48,676
<i>at the London office,</i>
<i>I felt so happy.</i>

1286
01:11:48,709 --> 01:11:50,845
<i>He said that in the meeting?</i>

1287
01:11:50,878 --> 01:11:52,379
<i>Yes.</i>

1288
01:11:52,412 --> 01:11:55,616
He was in his bathrobe
when he opened the door,

1289
01:11:55,650 --> 01:12:00,420
but I thought
that was maybe very Hollywood.

1290
01:12:00,453 --> 01:12:03,024
But quite soon into talking,

1291
01:12:03,057 --> 01:12:05,827
he said,
would I give him a massage?

1292
01:12:08,062 --> 01:12:10,064
I-I said no.

1293
01:12:10,097 --> 01:12:11,532
He was very matter-of-fact.

1294
01:12:11,566 --> 01:12:13,868
He said it's not
a romantic request.

1295
01:12:13,901 --> 01:12:16,403
Everyone does it for him.

1296
01:12:16,436 --> 01:12:18,506
It's part of the job.

1297
01:12:20,741 --> 01:12:25,713
So, I suddenly thought that
I was the problem, you know.

1298
01:12:25,746 --> 01:12:29,482
That I was the one
who was sexualizing it.

1299
01:12:29,517 --> 01:12:32,887
That I was just
young and uptight.

1300
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,622
So, I...

1301
01:12:35,556 --> 01:12:37,625
...I put my hands
on his shoulders,

1302
01:12:37,658 --> 01:12:42,730
but I couldn't actually
move them at all over his body.

1303
01:12:42,763 --> 01:12:44,966
I just stood there.

1304
01:12:44,999 --> 01:12:46,868
My hands wouldn't move.

1305
01:12:46,901 --> 01:12:52,173
And then he said he would
give me a massage first.

1306
01:12:52,206 --> 01:12:54,542
To relax me.

1307
01:12:56,711 --> 01:13:00,882
And he said,
"Look, all the girls do it.

1308
01:13:00,915 --> 01:13:03,450
It's just work."

1309
01:13:03,483 --> 01:13:06,087
And then he said,
"Take your top off."

1310
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,756
Very matter-of-fact.

1311
01:13:08,789 --> 01:13:10,858
"Take your bra off."

1312
01:13:15,663 --> 01:13:18,199
And I did.

1313
01:13:18,232 --> 01:13:22,536
I was terrified,
but I just thought,

1314
01:13:22,570 --> 01:13:25,640
"Get through it. Do it."

1315
01:13:27,208 --> 01:13:29,476
<i>And then my trousers were off,</i>

1316
01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:33,781
<i>and he was standing over me...</i>

1317
01:13:33,814 --> 01:13:36,050
<i>masturbating.</i>

1318
01:13:36,083 --> 01:13:39,787
<i>I asked him to leave me alone,</i>

1319
01:13:39,820 --> 01:13:42,924
<i>but he kept asking</i>
<i>for different things.</i>

1320
01:13:42,957 --> 01:13:46,694
<i>And then he suggested a shower,</i>
<i>and I got up.</i>

1321
01:13:47,494 --> 01:13:50,932
<i>And he carried on...</i>

1322
01:13:50,965 --> 01:13:53,034
<i>masturbating.</i>

1323
01:13:53,067 --> 01:13:55,069
<i>And I kept crying.</i>

1324
01:13:55,102 --> 01:13:58,072
<i>And I was sobbing,</i>
<i>and the water was pouring down,</i>

1325
01:13:58,105 --> 01:14:02,944
<i>and he was still masturbating.</i>

1326
01:14:03,911 --> 01:14:05,546
<i>Then he got angry.</i>

1327
01:14:05,579 --> 01:14:09,583
<i>I think my crying was so loud</i>
<i>it put him off.</i>

1328
01:14:09,617 --> 01:14:14,555
<i>And he left the bathroom,</i>
<i>and I locked the door.</i>

1329
01:14:16,023 --> 01:14:19,961
<i>And I could still hear him</i>
<i>on the other side.</i>

1330
01:14:19,994 --> 01:14:23,764
<i>Still the sounds</i>
<i>of him masturbating.</i>

1331
01:14:25,666 --> 01:14:27,802
<i>Finally, I went back</i>
<i>into the room itself</i>

1332
01:14:27,835 --> 01:14:31,973
<i>and grabbed my clothes</i>
<i>and belongings, and I just ran.</i>

1333
01:14:32,006 --> 01:14:34,175
<i>I ran down the street.</i>

1334
01:14:34,208 --> 01:14:38,478
<i>I've never run</i>
<i>that fast in my life.</i>

1335
01:14:44,151 --> 01:14:46,721
How do you feel about it now?

1336
01:14:52,626 --> 01:14:55,129
I...

1337
01:14:55,162 --> 01:14:57,598
I... I feel like

1338
01:14:57,631 --> 01:15:01,869
it dictated a certain direction
my life took.

1339
01:15:01,902 --> 01:15:05,740
That-- I just felt that it was
this huge e-error of judgment

1340
01:15:05,773 --> 01:15:09,577
that sort of marked me
and all my decisions.

1341
01:15:10,344 --> 01:15:11,979
And...

1342
01:15:13,714 --> 01:15:16,517
...I felt such shame...

1343
01:15:18,119 --> 01:15:21,822
...that I let him do that.

1344
01:15:24,125 --> 01:15:26,927
Did you think that he had done
the same to other girls?

1345
01:15:26,961 --> 01:15:29,663
I thought that
he must've tried it.

1346
01:15:31,332 --> 01:15:33,934
But that they'd all s...

1347
01:15:35,336 --> 01:15:37,738
...they'd all said no.

1348
01:15:41,075 --> 01:15:44,912
It was like he t-took
my voice that day.

1349
01:15:46,947 --> 01:15:51,919
Just when I was
about to start finding it.

1350
01:16:00,094 --> 01:16:01,595
Yes?

1351
01:16:01,629 --> 01:16:02,663
I have Harvey Weinstein

1352
01:16:02,696 --> 01:16:04,698
on the phone for you.

1353
01:16:04,732 --> 01:16:06,967
Put him through. Thank you.

1354
01:16:08,869 --> 01:16:10,971
Dean, how are you?
This is Harvey.

1355
01:16:11,005 --> 01:16:13,774
Hi, Harvey.
What can I do for you?

1356
01:16:13,808 --> 01:16:16,777
If I hadn't made movies,
I would've been a journalist.

1357
01:16:17,845 --> 01:16:20,347
Dean, I heard someone was
working on a story about me.

1358
01:16:20,381 --> 01:16:23,084
Yes. If you'd like to talk
to the reporters on the record,

1359
01:16:23,117 --> 01:16:25,686
-they'd welcome that.
-I want to talk to you, Dean.

1360
01:16:25,719 --> 01:16:27,822
Well, talk to my reporters
about your concerns.

1361
01:16:27,855 --> 01:16:30,091
I'm sorry. I have work to do.

1362
01:16:30,124 --> 01:16:31,358
Are you gonna hang up?

1363
01:16:31,392 --> 01:16:33,961
Unless you have
anything else to say.

1364
01:16:33,994 --> 01:16:35,763
I love the truth.

1365
01:16:35,796 --> 01:16:38,299
People make up stories a lot.

1366
01:16:38,332 --> 01:16:39,800
Be careful of that.

1367
01:16:39,834 --> 01:16:42,036
That's fine, Harvey. Goodbye.

1368
01:16:58,252 --> 01:16:59,954
-Hi, Chanel.
-Hey, Dean.

1369
01:16:59,987 --> 01:17:01,655
Hey, Tim.

1370
01:17:07,027 --> 01:17:09,930
-Matt, you got a minute?
-Yeah.

1371
01:17:09,964 --> 01:17:11,765
<i>So, what do we have?</i>

1372
01:17:11,799 --> 01:17:14,368
Well, the biggest thing is
the documents that Jodi got

1373
01:17:14,401 --> 01:17:16,137
from Zelda Perkins in London.

1374
01:17:16,170 --> 01:17:18,038
Rose is still off the record,

1375
01:17:18,072 --> 01:17:21,208
but she has given us permission
to write about her settlement.

1376
01:17:21,242 --> 01:17:23,744
We're just trying to figure out
a way to confirm it.

1377
01:17:23,777 --> 01:17:25,946
Harvey offered her
a million dollars recently

1378
01:17:25,980 --> 01:17:28,282
for her silence.

1379
01:17:28,315 --> 01:17:30,017
-And?
-Rose refused,

1380
01:17:30,050 --> 01:17:31,752
but she doesn't want us
to quote her.

1381
01:17:31,785 --> 01:17:33,354
There are still
no on-the-record sources.

1382
01:17:33,387 --> 01:17:34,755
NDAs are a problem.

1383
01:17:34,788 --> 01:17:37,024
Laura Madden didn't sign one.

1384
01:17:37,057 --> 01:17:39,894
She's the only ex-assistant who
is technically free to speak.

1385
01:17:39,927 --> 01:17:41,762
Ashley and Gwyneth
didn't sign one either,

1386
01:17:41,795 --> 01:17:43,097
but they're not ready
to go on the record.

1387
01:17:43,130 --> 01:17:45,099
But Laura Madden
has to deal with something

1388
01:17:45,132 --> 01:17:47,768
-very different right now.
-She has breast cancer.

1389
01:17:47,801 --> 01:17:50,738
She has to go into surgery,
so it's not likely.

1390
01:17:50,771 --> 01:17:52,439
I'm still leaving messages
for Rowena Chiu,

1391
01:17:52,473 --> 01:17:54,875
but there's no engagement.

1392
01:17:54,909 --> 01:17:56,210
So, no more proven settlements.

1393
01:17:56,243 --> 01:17:59,146
Ambra Battilana Gutierrez
almost certainly settled.

1394
01:17:59,180 --> 01:18:01,448
And John Schmidt confirmed
that Miramax settled

1395
01:18:01,482 --> 01:18:03,117
with the woman
I visited in Queens.

1396
01:18:03,150 --> 01:18:05,186
Anything more on the article
from <i>The New Yorker?</i>

1397
01:18:05,219 --> 01:18:06,820
No.

1398
01:18:06,854 --> 01:18:10,357
Lanny Davis and David Boies
want to come talk to us.

1399
01:18:10,391 --> 01:18:11,992
What do you think?

1400
01:18:12,026 --> 01:18:13,994
Don't we want to wait
and push for

1401
01:18:14,028 --> 01:18:16,096
an on-the-record interview
with Weinstein?

1402
01:18:16,130 --> 01:18:16,897
It's your call, Binky.

1403
01:18:16,931 --> 01:18:19,934
I'd like to talk to Lanny
at least.

1404
01:18:19,967 --> 01:18:21,769
See what he has to say.

1405
01:18:21,802 --> 01:18:23,470
<i>Harvey's not</i>
<i>always that rational.</i>

1406
01:18:23,505 --> 01:18:25,739
<i>The reason I'm here</i>
<i>as his representative</i>

1407
01:18:25,773 --> 01:18:27,208
<i>is not to try to kill anything.</i>

1408
01:18:27,241 --> 01:18:29,376
<i>I want to know that</i>
<i>if you're including something</i>

1409
01:18:29,410 --> 01:18:32,746
<i>like Rósa McGowan's claim,</i>
<i>then we can defend that.</i>

1410
01:18:32,780 --> 01:18:34,148
<i>Of course.</i>

1411
01:18:34,181 --> 01:18:35,950
Please.

1412
01:18:39,220 --> 01:18:43,224
I know you'll be investigating
with due diligence.

1413
01:18:43,257 --> 01:18:44,425
-Lanny...
-Mm-hmm?

1414
01:18:44,458 --> 01:18:46,160
...you'll have
every chance to respond.

1415
01:18:46,193 --> 01:18:48,362
Oh. Uh...

1416
01:18:48,395 --> 01:18:50,231
And I trust
it's okay to record this?

1417
01:18:50,264 --> 01:18:52,399
Oh, of course. Sure.

1418
01:18:52,433 --> 01:18:56,170
I don't expect you to name
sources, but if it's possible

1419
01:18:56,203 --> 01:18:59,541
for you to let me know overall
what your story's about?

1420
01:18:59,574 --> 01:19:02,243
We're looking into
problematic behavior

1421
01:19:02,276 --> 01:19:04,144
towards women by Weinstein.

1422
01:19:05,012 --> 01:19:07,381
Okay.

1423
01:19:07,414 --> 01:19:11,385
Harvey adamantly denies any
allegation of rape or assault.

1424
01:19:11,418 --> 01:19:13,120
Nothing criminal.

1425
01:19:13,153 --> 01:19:17,358
But he is aware of complaints
about his treatment of women,

1426
01:19:17,391 --> 01:19:19,927
and he is working on that.

1427
01:19:20,595 --> 01:19:23,931
Powerful men
of an older generation

1428
01:19:23,964 --> 01:19:25,266
are changing their understanding

1429
01:19:25,299 --> 01:19:27,401
of the meaning of the word
"consensual."

1430
01:19:27,434 --> 01:19:29,403
Why women don't feel
it's consensual

1431
01:19:29,436 --> 01:19:32,273
even if a man
convinces himself it is.

1432
01:19:32,306 --> 01:19:34,808
Do you want to expand on that?

1433
01:19:34,842 --> 01:19:37,278
Uh, I believe

1434
01:19:37,311 --> 01:19:40,548
there's a story to be told
about the evolution of men.

1435
01:19:40,582 --> 01:19:43,083
And, in particular, Harvey
on this subject.

1436
01:19:43,117 --> 01:19:45,886
Uh, would he be willing
to talk to us about it?

1437
01:19:45,919 --> 01:19:48,088
On the record.

1438
01:19:49,089 --> 01:19:51,492
He has to deal with
his wife and children

1439
01:19:51,526 --> 01:19:53,060
before anything else.

1440
01:19:54,028 --> 01:19:59,166
You're adamant Rose McGowan's
rape accusation is false.

1441
01:19:59,199 --> 01:20:00,968
Why is that?

1442
01:20:01,001 --> 01:20:02,570
Did she tell anybody right away?

1443
01:20:02,604 --> 01:20:04,138
Did she show
any signs of distress?

1444
01:20:04,171 --> 01:20:07,141
She told her manager
and a lawyer.

1445
01:20:09,143 --> 01:20:11,912
Harvey was aware that
there was a problem with Rose,

1446
01:20:11,945 --> 01:20:14,315
but not that
she was accusing him of rape.

1447
01:20:14,348 --> 01:20:16,984
So I draw a bright line
on the word "rape."

1448
01:20:17,017 --> 01:20:19,320
Anything below that line,

1449
01:20:19,353 --> 01:20:22,389
uh, he was aware of
feelings, concerns.

1450
01:20:22,423 --> 01:20:23,924
Of what kind?

1451
01:20:23,957 --> 01:20:25,192
I'm sorry. What...

1452
01:20:25,225 --> 01:20:27,461
If the concerns
were not about rape,

1453
01:20:27,494 --> 01:20:29,363
what were they about?

1454
01:20:31,198 --> 01:20:34,234
The only way I can answer
is, um...

1455
01:20:35,570 --> 01:20:37,204
...a sense of exploitation

1456
01:20:37,237 --> 01:20:41,475
because of that
disparate power relationship.

1457
01:20:41,509 --> 01:20:45,613
There's mental coercion
that isn't physical coercion.

1458
01:20:45,647 --> 01:20:48,115
Lisa Bloom has been
working with Harvey

1459
01:20:48,148 --> 01:20:49,651
to help him
recognize the difference.

1460
01:20:49,684 --> 01:20:51,185
Lisa Bloom?

1461
01:20:51,218 --> 01:20:53,020
Yeah.

1462
01:20:53,053 --> 01:20:55,489
If Harvey had been made aware

1463
01:20:55,523 --> 01:21:00,861
of McGowan's concerns
at the time, how did he respond?

1464
01:21:02,062 --> 01:21:04,298
I think he had dealings legally
with her about them.

1465
01:21:04,331 --> 01:21:08,969
And how would you characterize
those legal dealings?

1466
01:21:10,505 --> 01:21:12,172
I think he became aware that

1467
01:21:12,206 --> 01:21:14,942
she did not regard
what happened as okay with her.

1468
01:21:14,975 --> 01:21:16,377
I'm not talking about rape.

1469
01:21:16,410 --> 01:21:20,615
I'm talking about the effect
he had on Rose McGowan.

1470
01:21:20,648 --> 01:21:23,283
And that rather than fighting...

1471
01:21:24,084 --> 01:21:25,587
"Rather than fighting"?

1472
01:21:25,620 --> 01:21:29,022
Then... then what?

1473
01:21:31,291 --> 01:21:34,395
I-I think he has agreed
to settlements

1474
01:21:34,428 --> 01:21:37,164
rather than litigating
what might have been litigated.

1475
01:21:37,197 --> 01:21:40,200
As Harvey saw it,
it was better to settle,

1476
01:21:40,234 --> 01:21:42,069
even if you haven't done
anything wrong.

1477
01:21:42,102 --> 01:21:44,304
He preferred to settle.

1478
01:21:46,039 --> 01:21:49,309
Were there other cases of
questionable intimate relations

1479
01:21:49,343 --> 01:21:52,045
with women
in which Weinstein settled?

1480
01:21:54,248 --> 01:21:58,018
Let's say for now,
even on a background basis,

1481
01:21:58,051 --> 01:22:00,387
that I need to find out
what my limits are legally.

1482
01:22:00,421 --> 01:22:04,291
Even if on background,
I'm confirming settlements.

1483
01:22:04,324 --> 01:22:09,062
But the-the answer is yes,
there have been.

1484
01:22:11,599 --> 01:22:13,934
How many?

1485
01:22:15,469 --> 01:22:17,104
No.

1486
01:22:19,541 --> 01:22:23,143
To admit to settlements this
early, they're in real trouble.

1487
01:22:23,177 --> 01:22:24,978
We need to find out a number.

1488
01:22:25,012 --> 01:22:26,514
We need to corroborate each one.

1489
01:22:26,548 --> 01:22:28,348
I'm on it.

1490
01:22:28,382 --> 01:22:32,319
Have you guys had any dealings
with Diana Filip?

1491
01:22:32,352 --> 01:22:34,421
-No. -I said no to speaking
at a women's conference.

1492
01:22:34,455 --> 01:22:37,592
-She just keeps on calling me.
-Did you have her checked out?

1493
01:22:37,625 --> 01:22:39,259
Security consultant says
she's legit,

1494
01:22:39,293 --> 01:22:41,428
but who has time
for these random people?

1495
01:22:54,676 --> 01:22:56,143
Hello?

1496
01:22:56,176 --> 01:22:57,478
I worked at Miramax.

1497
01:22:57,512 --> 01:22:59,714
Talk to Irwin Reiter.
He hates Weinstein.

1498
01:23:11,391 --> 01:23:13,060
Hey. Are you okay?

1499
01:23:13,093 --> 01:23:15,697
Did I wake you?

1500
01:23:15,730 --> 01:23:18,365
Um, yeah. What's up?

1501
01:23:18,398 --> 01:23:21,603
What do you know
about Irwin Reiter?

1502
01:23:22,804 --> 01:23:26,106
Hang on.
I put together a file on him.

1503
01:23:26,139 --> 01:23:29,309
I need to write
a good fucking email.

1504
01:23:41,188 --> 01:23:43,791
Hi. Thanks for meeting me.

1505
01:23:43,825 --> 01:23:45,627
You want to get me killed?

1506
01:23:53,166 --> 01:23:57,505
So, Irwin, you've been an
accountant for the Weinsteins

1507
01:23:57,539 --> 01:23:59,306
for 30 years.

1508
01:24:02,175 --> 01:24:03,611
I pick up the check,

1509
01:24:03,645 --> 01:24:05,580
and I reserve the right
to leave after five minutes.

1510
01:24:06,748 --> 01:24:10,183
So, um...
what do you want to know?

1511
01:24:10,217 --> 01:24:12,554
We have information
on several settlements

1512
01:24:12,587 --> 01:24:14,288
that Weinstein made in the '90s,

1513
01:24:14,321 --> 01:24:17,124
paid to actresses
and ex-employees.

1514
01:24:17,157 --> 01:24:20,327
Could you tell me anything
about that?

1515
01:24:22,396 --> 01:24:24,699
Could you confirm
those settlements

1516
01:24:24,732 --> 01:24:26,400
and how it was
from your perspective?

1517
01:24:26,433 --> 01:24:28,335
My perspective?

1518
01:24:29,336 --> 01:24:31,639
Would it be company money
that was used?

1519
01:24:33,273 --> 01:24:36,611
You wrote that we're from
the same tiny world.

1520
01:24:36,644 --> 01:24:37,845
Yeah.

1521
01:24:37,879 --> 01:24:40,113
Summers at bungalows
in the Catskills.

1522
01:24:40,147 --> 01:24:42,617
Meals at Lefty's and Pop-Ins.

1523
01:24:42,650 --> 01:24:45,620
What do you remember
about those holidays?

1524
01:24:45,653 --> 01:24:48,856
Gosh, I remember so many things.

1525
01:24:48,890 --> 01:24:50,692
It's the first time
I remember seeing

1526
01:24:50,725 --> 01:24:52,894
my grandmother's arms bare.

1527
01:24:52,927 --> 01:24:57,632
I knew those tattoos meant
something seismic.

1528
01:24:57,665 --> 01:24:59,534
Yeah, h-how did you know?

1529
01:24:59,567 --> 01:25:00,802
I just sensed it.

1530
01:25:00,835 --> 01:25:04,104
Did your family discuss it?

1531
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,844
Who else are you talking to?

1532
01:25:09,877 --> 01:25:12,312
I can't disclose that, Irwin.

1533
01:25:14,448 --> 01:25:17,652
You know, my parents,
uh, they couldn't go there.

1534
01:25:17,685 --> 01:25:20,220
They rarely discussed it.

1535
01:25:21,388 --> 01:25:23,524
It's so mysterious, isn't it?

1536
01:25:24,324 --> 01:25:26,628
Why some families talk.

1537
01:25:26,661 --> 01:25:28,362
Some don't.

1538
01:25:29,797 --> 01:25:34,836
The money Weinstein was
spending was, you know, crazy.

1539
01:25:34,869 --> 01:25:35,870
I tried.

1540
01:25:35,903 --> 01:25:37,605
I tried many times to

1541
01:25:37,639 --> 01:25:40,575
get the board to do something
about him, but they just kept

1542
01:25:40,608 --> 01:25:43,176
ignoring his behavior
and keeping him on.

1543
01:25:43,210 --> 01:25:45,345
Why is that?

1544
01:25:46,279 --> 01:25:49,182
Have you talked to L.O.C.?

1545
01:25:49,216 --> 01:25:51,552
Or, uh, Z.P.?

1546
01:25:51,586 --> 01:25:53,755
Who is L.O.C.?

1547
01:25:53,788 --> 01:25:55,923
There was this memo.

1548
01:25:55,957 --> 01:25:58,960
Let me ask you something, Jodi,
that's really puzzling me.

1549
01:25:58,993 --> 01:26:01,763
Why are you asking
about the '90s

1550
01:26:01,796 --> 01:26:05,600
when Weinstein has committed
so many more recent offenses?

1551
01:26:06,901 --> 01:26:09,403
I got to go.

1552
01:26:09,436 --> 01:26:11,673
-I'll give you a call.
-Irwin.

1553
01:26:44,739 --> 01:26:46,708
Mom.

1554
01:26:46,741 --> 01:26:48,442
I had a nightmare.

1555
01:26:48,475 --> 01:26:51,579
Oh, honey, come here.

1556
01:26:57,051 --> 01:26:59,453
It's okay. It's okay.

1557
01:26:59,486 --> 01:27:01,288
I heard that
Ambra Battilana Gutierrez

1558
01:27:01,321 --> 01:27:03,423
just got
a seven-figure settlement.

1559
01:27:03,457 --> 01:27:07,427
And that Weinstein now owns
the audio of the incident?

1560
01:27:08,763 --> 01:27:11,733
These settlements, Lanny...

1561
01:27:11,766 --> 01:27:13,366
what are we talking?

1562
01:27:14,535 --> 01:27:16,804
I can't tell you that, Megan.

1563
01:27:16,838 --> 01:27:18,338
You know that.

1564
01:27:18,371 --> 01:27:19,941
I'm not talking about
naming you, of course.

1565
01:27:19,974 --> 01:27:23,644
It would just be great
for background

1566
01:27:23,678 --> 01:27:25,012
to know a number

1567
01:27:25,046 --> 01:27:27,782
of the other settlements
that you're aware of.

1568
01:27:28,649 --> 01:27:30,885
-I'm not a bad guy here.
-I know that.

1569
01:27:30,918 --> 01:27:33,420
My profession is
to get the facts

1570
01:27:33,453 --> 01:27:36,289
into the hands
of reporters, but...

1571
01:27:36,323 --> 01:27:39,259
you know, I can't help.

1572
01:27:41,796 --> 01:27:44,599
I keep getting 40 in my head.

1573
01:27:45,700 --> 01:27:48,536
Which would be
ridiculous, right?

1574
01:27:50,938 --> 01:27:52,673
Right?

1575
01:27:55,810 --> 01:27:57,310
It's not 40.

1576
01:27:59,547 --> 01:28:03,383
Seriously, it's-it's,
uh, less than 40.

1577
01:28:03,416 --> 01:28:05,385
Good. That's a relief.

1578
01:28:05,418 --> 01:28:06,888
Sure.

1579
01:28:08,823 --> 01:28:10,825
So...

1580
01:28:11,826 --> 01:28:15,663
...less than half of 40, then?

1581
01:28:15,696 --> 01:28:16,597
Check.

1582
01:28:16,631 --> 01:28:18,398
Oh, and what the fuck, Lanny?

1583
01:28:18,431 --> 01:28:20,668
We heard that Ronan Farrow
is working on a story.

1584
01:28:20,701 --> 01:28:21,736
No, no.

1585
01:28:21,769 --> 01:28:24,639
That is done. Over.

1586
01:28:26,107 --> 01:28:28,743
I don't see you
as a bad guy, Lanny.

1587
01:28:29,677 --> 01:28:32,046
I-I don't. I never have.
I respect you.

1588
01:28:32,079 --> 01:28:33,781
Uh, I respect you.

1589
01:28:38,719 --> 01:28:41,856
This is all
gonna come out, Lanny.

1590
01:28:41,889 --> 01:28:43,891
Publicly.

1591
01:28:43,925 --> 01:28:45,358
Generally does.

1592
01:28:47,494 --> 01:28:49,597
Okay.

1593
01:28:51,431 --> 01:28:54,068
Wh... What am I laughing about?

1594
01:28:56,003 --> 01:28:59,472
Oh, Megan.

1595
01:29:00,608 --> 01:29:01,742
Lanny.

1596
01:29:10,450 --> 01:29:12,653
I'd say eight to 12 settlements.

1597
01:29:25,566 --> 01:29:28,502
And do you think that's normal?

1598
01:29:28,536 --> 01:29:30,638
For men to make so many payoffs?

1599
01:29:35,877 --> 01:29:38,679
I do. Yeah.

1600
01:29:42,049 --> 01:29:44,719
It feels like we're so close.

1601
01:29:44,752 --> 01:29:48,890
Do you think we'll get it?
What if we don't?

1602
01:29:48,923 --> 01:29:50,490
I'm having nightmares about him.

1603
01:29:50,524 --> 01:29:53,160
-Oh, my God. I have them, too.
-Yeah?

1604
01:29:53,194 --> 01:29:55,162
I'm terrified we know all this

1605
01:29:55,196 --> 01:29:58,566
and we might go to our graves
knowing it.

1606
01:29:58,599 --> 01:30:00,034
The story will run.

1607
01:30:00,067 --> 01:30:03,638
My worry is people won't care.

1608
01:30:03,671 --> 01:30:07,041
And he won't even be
slowed down, let alone stopped.

1609
01:30:07,074 --> 01:30:09,210
It's like
an ocean of wrongdoing.

1610
01:30:09,243 --> 01:30:10,811
I mean, can you imagine

1611
01:30:10,845 --> 01:30:14,181
how many Harveys there are
out there, every day?

1612
01:30:14,215 --> 01:30:16,617
I sometimes wonder...

1613
01:30:19,086 --> 01:30:22,890
...when I had Mira, if...

1614
01:30:24,025 --> 01:30:27,929
...if all the trauma,
not just in me but in...

1615
01:30:27,962 --> 01:30:31,599
but in all w-women I talked to,
if it just...

1616
01:30:31,632 --> 01:30:33,935
this darkness,
this constant violence,

1617
01:30:33,968 --> 01:30:36,704
if it just sort of imploded.

1618
01:30:37,805 --> 01:30:42,442
Maybe-maybe that's part of
the depression that hits women.

1619
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,983
Do you wish you hadn't
signed up for this story?

1620
01:30:50,818 --> 01:30:52,687
Do you?

1621
01:30:54,088 --> 01:30:55,089
No.

1622
01:30:55,122 --> 01:30:57,591
No.

1623
01:31:03,864 --> 01:31:08,569
The last time we met,
you mentioned a memo?

1624
01:31:15,743 --> 01:31:19,246
It was, uh,
from an ex-executive,

1625
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,115
and it was extensive, scathing.

1626
01:31:21,148 --> 01:31:22,717
She sent it to the board.

1627
01:31:22,750 --> 01:31:25,019
When was this?
How did they react?

1628
01:31:25,052 --> 01:31:27,121
Oh, it was a short burst
of behind-doors mayhem,

1629
01:31:27,154 --> 01:31:29,123
and then she left.

1630
01:31:29,156 --> 01:31:31,659
What did her memo say?

1631
01:31:31,692 --> 01:31:33,961
That the company was
a toxic environment.

1632
01:31:36,163 --> 01:31:37,932
Would anyone have a copy?

1633
01:31:44,972 --> 01:31:46,640
Hey.

1634
01:31:47,708 --> 01:31:50,611
-Sorry it's so late.
-Mm.

1635
01:31:53,180 --> 01:31:55,149
<i>You okay?</i>

1636
01:31:55,182 --> 01:31:57,251
Uh, Talia was up late.

1637
01:31:57,284 --> 01:31:58,786
Violet woke up twice.

1638
01:31:58,819 --> 01:32:01,088
I have an inbox
filled with enraged people

1639
01:32:01,122 --> 01:32:04,625
about this insurance story,
which is going to be huge.

1640
01:32:04,658 --> 01:32:08,162
There's already
hundreds of emails here,

1641
01:32:08,195 --> 01:32:09,630
and there is...

1642
01:32:09,663 --> 01:32:11,866
a hurricane
heading towards Florida.

1643
01:32:11,899 --> 01:32:14,168
So, I am going to somehow
fly down there

1644
01:32:14,201 --> 01:32:15,836
and move my dad someplace else

1645
01:32:15,870 --> 01:32:17,905
before he is
literally blown away.

1646
01:32:17,938 --> 01:32:21,208
And I have a slight
nervous twitch in my eye.

1647
01:32:21,242 --> 01:32:23,010
Let me see.

1648
01:32:31,619 --> 01:32:33,120
-Hey. Hey.
-Come here, Crabby.

1649
01:32:33,154 --> 01:32:35,322
-Get that raisin.
-Holly?

1650
01:32:35,356 --> 01:32:37,324
Slow down!

1651
01:32:37,358 --> 01:32:39,693
Um, here. Will you hold
Crabby for a second?

1652
01:32:39,727 --> 01:32:41,062
Least they're having fun.

1653
01:32:42,229 --> 01:32:43,931
Hi. This is Jodi Kantor.

1654
01:32:43,964 --> 01:32:45,866
This is Rowena Chiu.

1655
01:32:45,900 --> 01:32:47,334
I'm in New York.

1656
01:32:47,368 --> 01:32:49,703
Do you still want to meet up?

1657
01:32:50,371 --> 01:32:52,640
I couldn't tell anyone.

1658
01:32:52,673 --> 01:32:55,943
Not my parents,
not even my husband.

1659
01:32:55,976 --> 01:32:57,778
Why not?

1660
01:32:58,846 --> 01:33:01,248
I grew up
in an immigrant household.

1661
01:33:01,282 --> 01:33:03,884
I was taught
to keep my head down,

1662
01:33:03,918 --> 01:33:07,955
work hard and not draw
attention to myself, you know?

1663
01:33:07,988 --> 01:33:09,023
In Chinese culture,

1664
01:33:09,056 --> 01:33:13,127
I felt I had to protect
my family at all costs.

1665
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,797
And I was young, scared.

1666
01:33:19,066 --> 01:33:22,636
Can you tell me anything about
what happened in Venice?

1667
01:33:24,839 --> 01:33:27,808
This is off the record, yeah?

1668
01:33:31,345 --> 01:33:32,947
I had the evening shifts,

1669
01:33:32,980 --> 01:33:36,050
going through notes
on screenplays with Harvey.

1670
01:33:36,083 --> 01:33:42,123
One night, we were working,
and he kept trying to touch me.

1671
01:33:42,156 --> 01:33:44,125
I didn't want to make him angry.

1672
01:33:44,158 --> 01:33:47,695
He's a very big man.

1673
01:33:47,728 --> 01:33:49,897
I kept trying
to get back to the notes.

1674
01:33:49,930 --> 01:33:53,167
And that went on
for a few hours,

1675
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,136
just trying to avoid him.

1676
01:33:55,169 --> 01:33:57,238
How did you do that?

1677
01:33:58,372 --> 01:34:01,242
I would just fight him off.

1678
01:34:02,376 --> 01:34:04,345
I'd worn two pairs of tights

1679
01:34:04,378 --> 01:34:08,349
to buy me some time
if I ever needed it.

1680
01:34:08,382 --> 01:34:11,218
But finally,

1681
01:34:11,252 --> 01:34:14,455
he held me down.

1682
01:34:14,488 --> 01:34:18,692
Not forcefully,
but like it was a game.

1683
01:34:19,860 --> 01:34:24,131
Then he parted my legs,

1684
01:34:24,165 --> 01:34:26,167
and he said...

1685
01:34:27,234 --> 01:34:31,705
"Please, just one thrust,
and it'll all be over."

1686
01:34:35,442 --> 01:34:36,844
I got away.

1687
01:34:36,877 --> 01:34:38,779
I was traumatized.

1688
01:34:38,812 --> 01:34:40,047
I was a Christian.

1689
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,883
I was still
with my first boyfriend.

1690
01:34:42,917 --> 01:34:45,286
And you shared this with Zelda?

1691
01:34:45,319 --> 01:34:51,025
Zelda was completely enraged
and very brave in facing him.

1692
01:34:51,058 --> 01:34:52,293
We both resigned.

1693
01:34:54,261 --> 01:34:57,731
But I couldn't get a new job
after leaving Miramax.

1694
01:34:57,765 --> 01:34:59,501
Everyone kept saying,
if I worked for Harvey,

1695
01:34:59,534 --> 01:35:01,035
why would I leave?

1696
01:35:02,369 --> 01:35:05,039
The NDA that we signed,

1697
01:35:05,072 --> 01:35:07,341
it stipulated that
if I ever had trouble

1698
01:35:07,374 --> 01:35:11,245
getting a job in film again,
I was to go back to Harvey

1699
01:35:11,278 --> 01:35:13,814
or his lawyer Hutensky for help.

1700
01:35:14,415 --> 01:35:17,785
I asked them for a reference,

1701
01:35:17,818 --> 01:35:22,056
and Hutensky,
he kept repeating...

1702
01:35:24,258 --> 01:35:26,327
What? What was he saying?

1703
01:35:28,996 --> 01:35:32,266
How much Harvey valued me.

1704
01:35:36,003 --> 01:35:39,273
We agreed
I would return to Miramax

1705
01:35:39,306 --> 01:35:42,876
under strict conditions.

1706
01:35:43,877 --> 01:35:48,015
So I signed for Hong Kong.

1707
01:35:48,048 --> 01:35:51,452
I thought he would be
far enough away.

1708
01:35:51,485 --> 01:35:53,220
I thought I'd be okay.

1709
01:35:55,590 --> 01:35:58,058
<i>But it was horrible.</i>

1710
01:35:58,892 --> 01:36:00,294
<i>I was a mess.</i>

1711
01:36:00,327 --> 01:36:04,298
<i>I felt incredibly alone.</i>

1712
01:36:04,331 --> 01:36:06,267
<i>I couldn't tell anyone about it,</i>

1713
01:36:06,300 --> 01:36:11,171
<i>and the isolation</i>
<i>just ate into me.</i>

1714
01:36:19,179 --> 01:36:21,982
<i>One day,</i>
<i>I disappeared from work.</i>

1715
01:36:23,551 --> 01:36:25,919
<i>I wanted to be dead.</i>

1716
01:36:26,521 --> 01:36:29,156
<i>I didn't know how to be,</i>

1717
01:36:29,189 --> 01:36:32,926
<i>how to keep going,</i>
<i>living with it.</i>

1718
01:36:34,328 --> 01:36:40,034
<i>I tried to kill myself,</i>
<i>but I didn't know how.</i>

1719
01:36:41,603 --> 01:36:44,238
<i>I felt I failed at even that.</i>

1720
01:36:48,475 --> 01:36:50,811
I want to give you this.

1721
01:36:51,478 --> 01:36:53,947
It's a description
from an actress

1722
01:36:53,981 --> 01:36:56,083
you would know and recognize.

1723
01:37:00,220 --> 01:37:01,889
Mm.

1724
01:37:11,398 --> 01:37:12,900
What?

1725
01:37:12,933 --> 01:37:14,401
This person
won't go on the record.

1726
01:37:14,435 --> 01:37:16,970
I can't put her in the story.

1727
01:37:23,377 --> 01:37:26,914
Uh... I-I didn't...

1728
01:37:26,947 --> 01:37:30,217
I-I didn't know
anything like this.

1729
01:37:33,420 --> 01:37:36,490
I-I thought it was just
e-extramarital bullshit.

1730
01:37:36,524 --> 01:37:38,959
It's not.

1731
01:38:05,018 --> 01:38:07,221
Do with it what you want.

1732
01:38:58,405 --> 01:39:00,007
They have seen

1733
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,043
not a single bit
of aid or assistance,

1734
01:39:03,076 --> 01:39:05,412
and it's about
45 minutes' drive...

1735
01:39:05,446 --> 01:39:06,980
Shit.

1736
01:39:07,014 --> 01:39:08,348
This is it.

1737
01:39:09,283 --> 01:39:10,417
This is it.

1738
01:39:18,091 --> 01:39:22,262
<i>For your records,</i>
<i>November 3rd, 2015.</i>

1739
01:39:22,296 --> 01:39:25,199
<i>I have experienced</i>
<i>repeated harassment and abuse</i>

1740
01:39:25,232 --> 01:39:27,468
<i>from the head of this company.</i>

1741
01:39:27,502 --> 01:39:32,473
<i>I am a 28-year-old woman trying</i>
<i>to make a living and a career.</i>

1742
01:39:32,507 --> 01:39:34,141
<i>I am a professional.</i>

1743
01:39:34,174 --> 01:39:37,010
<i>I am sexualized and diminished.</i>

1744
01:39:37,044 --> 01:39:39,279
<i>I have been fearful</i>
<i>about speaking up,</i>

1745
01:39:39,313 --> 01:39:42,750
<i>but remaining silent</i>
<i>is causing me great distress.</i>

1746
01:39:42,784 --> 01:39:44,652
<i>He told me, "I'm a bad boy,</i>

1747
01:39:44,686 --> 01:39:47,454
<i>but what's important</i>
<i>is that I'm honest about it."</i>

1748
01:39:47,488 --> 01:39:51,258
<i>He said the only thing I was</i>
<i>good for was making babies.</i>

1749
01:39:51,291 --> 01:39:54,629
<i>An assistant told me Harvey</i>
<i>made her give him a massage</i>

1750
01:39:54,662 --> 01:39:56,196
<i>while he was naked.</i>

1751
01:39:56,230 --> 01:39:59,366
<i>It was horrible</i>
<i>to see her so upset.</i>

1752
01:39:59,399 --> 01:40:03,070
<i>When I complained to their</i>
<i>human resources executive,</i>

1753
01:40:03,103 --> 01:40:04,706
<i>the response was,</i>

1754
01:40:04,739 --> 01:40:08,643
<i>"Let us know if he hits you</i>
<i>or crosses a line physically."</i>

1755
01:40:08,676 --> 01:40:14,181
<i>Harvey Weinstein is</i>
<i>a 64-year-old world-famous man,</i>

1756
01:40:14,214 --> 01:40:15,650
<i>and this is his company.</i>

1757
01:40:15,683 --> 01:40:22,055
<i>The balance of power is</i>
<i>me zero, Harvey Weinstein ten.</i>

1758
01:40:30,565 --> 01:40:31,699
Go write.

1759
01:40:31,733 --> 01:40:33,535
You've got the story.

1760
01:40:33,568 --> 01:40:35,302
Once we publish,
everything else will come out.

1761
01:40:35,335 --> 01:40:37,137
And talk to Lauren O'Connor.

1762
01:40:37,170 --> 01:40:39,106
-Yeah. -Get ahold of
the Weinstein Company board

1763
01:40:39,139 --> 01:40:40,173
for their response.

1764
01:40:40,207 --> 01:40:41,676
Let me call Lance Maerov.

1765
01:40:41,709 --> 01:40:44,077
Write it. Let's get ready.

1766
01:40:46,581 --> 01:40:49,416
<i>My client does not</i>
<i>want to be named.</i>

1767
01:40:49,449 --> 01:40:52,419
<i>That memo was never</i>
<i>for public distribution.</i>

1768
01:40:52,452 --> 01:40:53,420
<i>Lauren?</i>

1769
01:40:53,453 --> 01:40:55,188
<i>My client is here,</i>

1770
01:40:55,222 --> 01:40:57,157
<i>but she's too upset to speak.</i>

1771
01:40:57,190 --> 01:40:58,826
<i>Lauren, I'm sorry</i>

1772
01:40:58,860 --> 01:41:00,294
this is difficult for you.

1773
01:41:00,327 --> 01:41:02,195
We're not gonna publish
the whole memo.

1774
01:41:02,229 --> 01:41:04,398
And we will make it
absolutely clear

1775
01:41:04,431 --> 01:41:07,669
you were not the source and
that you declined to comment.

1776
01:41:07,702 --> 01:41:11,171
But we do intend to use
your name for its credibility.

1777
01:41:11,204 --> 01:41:13,373
If you were
a victim of sexual assault,

1778
01:41:13,407 --> 01:41:16,243
we would absolutely keep
your anonymity.

1779
01:41:16,276 --> 01:41:18,278
But as a witness
to what went on,

1780
01:41:18,312 --> 01:41:21,549
it would make this story
much stronger to name you.

1781
01:41:21,583 --> 01:41:24,519
Hi, Lance. This is Megan Twohey
from <i>The New York Times.</i>

1782
01:41:24,552 --> 01:41:26,621
We have a memo here
from Lauren O'Connor

1783
01:41:26,654 --> 01:41:27,855
to The Weinstein Company.

1784
01:41:27,889 --> 01:41:29,456
- What? Sh...
- We want to know,

1785
01:41:29,489 --> 01:41:31,124
-what did you do about it?
-Shit.

1786
01:41:31,158 --> 01:41:33,528
What did the board do about it?

1787
01:41:38,465 --> 01:41:40,233
Lance?

1788
01:41:40,267 --> 01:41:41,468
We did try to change things

1789
01:41:41,502 --> 01:41:43,738
with the police complaint
in 2015.

1790
01:41:43,771 --> 01:41:45,172
What about this memo?

1791
01:41:45,205 --> 01:41:46,507
It was there
and then it was gone?

1792
01:41:46,541 --> 01:41:50,177
Look, we were all worried
about Harvey's behavior.

1793
01:41:50,210 --> 01:41:52,346
Can I quote you, Lance?

1794
01:41:54,916 --> 01:41:58,352
Yes. Yes, you can.

1795
01:41:58,385 --> 01:42:01,121
So, Lauren's complaint?

1796
01:42:03,825 --> 01:42:07,361
It was withdrawn
days after it was sent.

1797
01:42:07,394 --> 01:42:08,630
So, yeah, I let it go.

1798
01:42:08,663 --> 01:42:11,532
Well, why do you think
it was withdrawn?

1799
01:42:11,566 --> 01:42:13,768
I really don't know why.

1800
01:42:13,801 --> 01:42:16,771
Look, are you sure that
this isn't just young women

1801
01:42:16,804 --> 01:42:21,241
who want to sleep with a movie
producer to try to get ahead?

1802
01:42:21,274 --> 01:42:23,377
We have decades of allegations,

1803
01:42:23,410 --> 01:42:26,781
accusations of
harassment, assault,

1804
01:42:26,814 --> 01:42:29,449
rape and multiple settlements.

1805
01:42:31,686 --> 01:42:33,655
I know you're gonna need
to speak to the board,

1806
01:42:33,688 --> 01:42:36,658
but could you wait
until after the weekend?

1807
01:42:36,691 --> 01:42:38,926
Is that possible?

1808
01:42:41,529 --> 01:42:43,397
Okay.

1809
01:42:51,606 --> 01:42:54,709
Ashley, I know that
ideally a lot of women

1810
01:42:54,742 --> 01:42:58,946
would be jumping together,
but that's not what's happening.

1811
01:42:58,980 --> 01:43:01,616
But we do have
a series of incidents

1812
01:43:01,649 --> 01:43:03,551
and a predatory pattern.

1813
01:43:03,584 --> 01:43:05,485
You would be
coming forward alone,

1814
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,790
but you would be standing
on a mountain of evidence.

1815
01:43:12,459 --> 01:43:13,594
Ashley?

1816
01:43:13,628 --> 01:43:17,765
Yes. I'll think
about it very seriously, Jodi.

1817
01:43:17,799 --> 01:43:18,966
I promise.

1818
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:20,868
Thank you, Ashley.

1819
01:43:24,005 --> 01:43:25,606
<i>We go with what we have.</i>

1820
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,743
I know we need to be mindful
of <i>The New Yorker,</i>

1821
01:43:28,776 --> 01:43:30,611
but couldn't we wait
just a little longer,

1822
01:43:30,645 --> 01:43:32,647
just-just for these women
to commit?

1823
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:34,347
No. We need to publish.

1824
01:43:34,381 --> 01:43:35,750
It's nothing like
the whole story.

1825
01:43:35,783 --> 01:43:37,585
This can be the first arrow.

1826
01:43:37,618 --> 01:43:39,419
More women will come forward
afterwards.

1827
01:43:39,453 --> 01:43:42,523
It could be
so much stronger, Dean.

1828
01:43:42,557 --> 01:43:44,726
It's solid.

1829
01:43:44,759 --> 01:43:46,359
We need to go.

1830
01:43:46,393 --> 01:43:49,897
How much time will we give
Weinstein to respond?

1831
01:43:49,931 --> 01:43:52,466
-24 hours?
-I'd double it.

1832
01:43:52,499 --> 01:43:53,534
48 hours.

1833
01:43:53,568 --> 01:43:55,603
- That's fair.
- Two days?

1834
01:43:55,636 --> 01:43:57,972
How many people could
Harvey and his team talk to

1835
01:43:58,005 --> 01:43:59,774
in that amount of time?

1836
01:44:00,775 --> 01:44:01,943
David?

1837
01:44:01,976 --> 01:44:03,544
I'd go with Rebecca.

1838
01:44:03,578 --> 01:44:06,013
We want to be irreproachable
from the legal side.

1839
01:44:06,047 --> 01:44:08,516
Good. Let's call Lanny.

1840
01:44:08,549 --> 01:44:11,284
We'll ask to speak to Harvey
and his team at 1:00 tomorrow.

1841
01:44:11,318 --> 01:44:14,488
We'll tell them what we have
and give him, um,

1842
01:44:14,522 --> 01:44:17,592
two days to respond or refute.

1843
01:44:27,467 --> 01:44:29,804
It's midnight. Go home.

1844
01:44:29,837 --> 01:44:31,806
-We will.
-Good night.

1845
01:44:50,423 --> 01:44:53,360
If just one of the women would
have gone on the record...

1846
01:44:53,393 --> 01:44:55,596
Why is he taking the tunnel?

1847
01:44:57,397 --> 01:44:59,399
We just needed one woman.

1848
01:44:59,432 --> 01:45:01,803
Jodi, stop it.

1849
01:45:01,836 --> 01:45:02,870
Let it go.

1850
01:45:09,043 --> 01:45:10,511
Maybe if we had been able

1851
01:45:10,545 --> 01:45:13,413
to get them all
into a room together.

1852
01:45:13,981 --> 01:45:15,716
A room would make no difference.

1853
01:45:16,984 --> 01:45:20,555
They don't want to go
on the record by themselves.

1854
01:45:22,123 --> 01:45:23,825
Would you want to?

1855
01:45:42,409 --> 01:45:44,579
Hi.

1856
01:45:46,681 --> 01:45:48,816
You. Hi.

1857
01:45:48,850 --> 01:45:50,852
Hi.

1858
01:46:02,997 --> 01:46:05,566
It's been two fucking hours.

1859
01:46:06,567 --> 01:46:10,872
It's a tactic,
but I have things to do.

1860
01:46:23,050 --> 01:46:24,819
- Hello?
- Dean?

1861
01:46:24,852 --> 01:46:28,990
I have Harvey Weinstein and his
lawyer Charles Harder for you.

1862
01:46:29,023 --> 01:46:31,525
Okay, let's go, team.

1863
01:46:31,559 --> 01:46:33,794
-You ready?
-We're ready.

1864
01:46:35,062 --> 01:46:36,898
Put them through.

1865
01:46:40,201 --> 01:46:41,836
Harvey?

1866
01:46:41,869 --> 01:46:43,037
Charles?

1867
01:46:43,070 --> 01:46:45,039
Dean.

1868
01:46:45,072 --> 01:46:46,908
How do you want
to do this, Harvey?

1869
01:46:46,941 --> 01:46:49,176
I don't want to do this
is what I want.

1870
01:46:49,210 --> 01:46:51,879
Are they there? The reporters?

1871
01:46:51,913 --> 01:46:53,648
We're all here.

1872
01:46:53,681 --> 01:46:56,449
Who have you talked to?

1873
01:46:56,483 --> 01:46:59,153
We've sent you
who we're covering, Harvey.

1874
01:46:59,186 --> 01:47:00,922
Who have you talked to?

1875
01:47:05,092 --> 01:47:06,594
Harvey, we need some...

1876
01:47:06,627 --> 01:47:07,929
Are you talking
to Gwyneth Paltrow?

1877
01:47:07,962 --> 01:47:10,631
Gwyneth's not
in the story, Harvey.

1878
01:47:10,665 --> 01:47:13,067
Why don't you tell me
who's on the record

1879
01:47:13,100 --> 01:47:14,669
and let me respond to that?

1880
01:47:14,702 --> 01:47:16,570
Yeah.

1881
01:47:17,271 --> 01:47:19,472
Harvey, how many settlements

1882
01:47:19,507 --> 01:47:22,043
have you paid out
over the years?

1883
01:47:22,076 --> 01:47:23,978
We were told eight to 12.

1884
01:47:24,011 --> 01:47:26,747
That's you talking.
That's not me talking.

1885
01:47:26,781 --> 01:47:28,950
If Lanny spoke,
he spoke for himself

1886
01:47:28,983 --> 01:47:31,686
and not on behalf of his client.

1887
01:47:35,089 --> 01:47:37,959
How much time
are you giving us to respond?

1888
01:47:37,992 --> 01:47:39,894
We need two weeks.

1889
01:47:41,095 --> 01:47:42,630
You'll have two days.

1890
01:47:42,663 --> 01:47:44,031
This goes back to the '90s.

1891
01:47:44,065 --> 01:47:46,667
If you mess up
and don't tell the truth,

1892
01:47:46,701 --> 01:47:48,669
how do you look yourself
in the eye?

1893
01:47:48,703 --> 01:47:51,906
It's been 90 minutes, Harvey,
and we're gonna wrap it up now.

1894
01:48:20,768 --> 01:48:23,537
<i>Harvey's just disputed</i>
<i>Lanny's eight to 12.</i>

1895
01:48:23,571 --> 01:48:24,872
We have to have corroboration.

1896
01:48:24,905 --> 01:48:27,641
Eight to 12 settlements
has to be backed up.

1897
01:48:27,675 --> 01:48:29,744
Who can you call at the
company?

1898
01:48:29,777 --> 01:48:31,545
I'll ask David Glasser.

1899
01:48:31,579 --> 01:48:33,047
It's Ashley.

1900
01:48:34,648 --> 01:48:36,784
Pick up. Answer it.

1901
01:48:36,817 --> 01:48:38,719
I am. I am.

1902
01:48:40,921 --> 01:48:43,090
Ashley.

1903
01:48:43,124 --> 01:48:44,625
How are you?

1904
01:48:44,658 --> 01:48:46,060
I'm good. Yeah. I'm good.

1905
01:48:46,093 --> 01:48:47,762
I just went for a run.

1906
01:48:47,795 --> 01:48:49,163
That's great. That's great.

1907
01:48:49,196 --> 01:48:50,798
Running is good.

1908
01:48:51,832 --> 01:48:54,268
I talked to my lawyer,
and I've been thinking about

1909
01:48:54,301 --> 01:48:56,203
what the right thing to do is.

1910
01:48:56,237 --> 01:48:58,172
Yeah. Of course.

1911
01:48:58,205 --> 01:48:59,707
Of course.

1912
01:49:02,810 --> 01:49:03,944
And?

1913
01:49:06,213 --> 01:49:09,683
I'm prepared to be a named
source in your investigation.

1914
01:49:10,951 --> 01:49:12,153
I have to.

1915
01:49:13,187 --> 01:49:15,056
As a woman and a Christian.

1916
01:49:21,962 --> 01:49:23,964
Jodi?

1917
01:49:24,965 --> 01:49:25,599
Yes.

1918
01:49:25,633 --> 01:49:27,868
We'll speak soon.

1919
01:49:29,837 --> 01:49:31,038
Yes.

1920
01:49:31,072 --> 01:49:33,040
Ashley, thank you.

1921
01:49:33,074 --> 01:49:34,842
Thank you.

1922
01:49:36,310 --> 01:49:38,212
Ashley said yes.

1923
01:49:38,245 --> 01:49:39,847
She said yes.

1924
01:49:42,416 --> 01:49:43,651
Ashley said yes.

1925
01:49:43,684 --> 01:49:45,686
She did, Jodi. She did.

1926
01:49:45,719 --> 01:49:47,354
Okay.

1927
01:49:47,388 --> 01:49:49,323
Here we go with
the whole damn story.

1928
01:49:49,356 --> 01:49:51,325
The lede is
Ashley Judd's account

1929
01:49:51,358 --> 01:49:52,827
of the Peninsula suite.

1930
01:49:52,860 --> 01:49:54,829
Get a good Judd quote
to end the section.

1931
01:49:54,862 --> 01:49:56,630
- I'm on it.
- We publish

1932
01:49:56,664 --> 01:49:59,600
-as soon as the piece
is in good shape. -Let's go.

1933
01:50:37,705 --> 01:50:39,440
- Hello?
- Hi, David.

1934
01:50:39,473 --> 01:50:41,208
This is Megan Twohey
from <i>The New York Times.</i>

1935
01:50:41,242 --> 01:50:43,444
I thought it was fair to
give you, as company president,

1936
01:50:43,477 --> 01:50:44,845
a chance to comment.

1937
01:50:44,879 --> 01:50:46,680
Are you up to speed
with everything?

1938
01:50:48,015 --> 01:50:48,983
I am.

1939
01:50:49,016 --> 01:50:52,286
The board had
an emergency conference call.

1940
01:50:52,319 --> 01:50:54,155
David, the eight
to 12 settlements,

1941
01:50:54,188 --> 01:50:55,856
we have conflicting reports.

1942
01:50:55,890 --> 01:50:57,725
We don't need to name you,
but would you confirm for me

1943
01:50:57,758 --> 01:50:59,693
that eight to 12 is accurate?

1944
01:50:59,727 --> 01:51:00,694
How many?

1945
01:51:00,728 --> 01:51:02,296
Eight to 12.

1946
01:51:02,329 --> 01:51:04,131
Are we safe using that figure?

1947
01:51:06,967 --> 01:51:08,802
Eight to 12.

1948
01:51:11,338 --> 01:51:13,374
Uh, yeah. Yes.
That's, uh, accurate.

1949
01:51:13,407 --> 01:51:16,210
I appreciate it, David.
Thank you.

1950
01:51:38,832 --> 01:51:41,902
David Glasser says yes
to eight to 12 settlements.

1951
01:51:45,839 --> 01:51:47,208
It's not enough time.

1952
01:51:47,241 --> 01:51:48,742
- And it's not just me here.
- Right. Yeah.

1953
01:51:48,776 --> 01:51:50,044
You must know that, right?

1954
01:51:50,077 --> 01:51:52,213
Yeah.
I understand it's difficult.

1955
01:51:52,246 --> 01:51:53,948
What's happening?
Is Harvey on the phone?

1956
01:51:53,981 --> 01:51:56,951
It's Lanny. Weinstein is
refusing to give a response.

1957
01:51:56,984 --> 01:51:58,385
- Okay.
- Right?

1958
01:51:58,419 --> 01:52:00,354
Yeah. No, Lanny, I hear you.

1959
01:52:00,387 --> 01:52:03,490
Listen, I can't pull
a rabbit out of a hat here.

1960
01:52:03,525 --> 01:52:05,859
We need more time.
Here's the thing, Megan...

1961
01:52:05,893 --> 01:52:07,261
Lanny, I'm sick of this shit.

1962
01:52:07,294 --> 01:52:09,196
You've got five different
lawyers reaching out to us.

1963
01:52:09,230 --> 01:52:11,131
We're not talking
to five different lawyers.

1964
01:52:11,165 --> 01:52:15,269
Get your people in line and get
back to us with your response.

1965
01:52:22,209 --> 01:52:24,211
This is not a response.
This is a novel.

1966
01:52:24,245 --> 01:52:27,281
They call the women liars
and the journalism false.

1967
01:52:27,314 --> 01:52:29,116
It's legalistic bullying.

1968
01:52:29,149 --> 01:52:31,919
I sent back three paragraphs
to counter their 18 pages.

1969
01:52:31,952 --> 01:52:35,222
I've asked for their data,
and I invite them to court.

1970
01:52:35,256 --> 01:52:37,491
Uh, let's see how long
before they get back to us.

1971
01:52:39,561 --> 01:52:41,128
Waiting time's up.

1972
01:52:41,161 --> 01:52:43,397
Weinstein wants to meet.
He's on his way here.

1973
01:52:43,430 --> 01:52:45,165
Do we let him in?

1974
01:52:48,302 --> 01:52:50,170
Let him in.

1975
01:52:50,204 --> 01:52:52,039
I've got this.

1976
01:53:01,616 --> 01:53:02,950
- Hi, Lisa.
- Hi.

1977
01:53:02,983 --> 01:53:04,451
-Is this everyone?
-Yeah.

1978
01:53:04,485 --> 01:53:06,186
Okay, follow me.

1979
01:53:10,924 --> 01:53:12,226
That's what you're gonna do.

1980
01:53:12,259 --> 01:53:14,194
We have the folders.
We've got evidence.

1981
01:53:14,228 --> 01:53:16,163
-You're a good writer, Megan.
-Here you go.

1982
01:53:16,196 --> 01:53:19,033
Are you really willing to stake
your reputation on this story?

1983
01:53:19,066 --> 01:53:20,434
...and he's smiling at her.

1984
01:53:20,467 --> 01:53:22,570
Would you be smiling
if this had happened to you?

1985
01:53:22,604 --> 01:53:25,607
None of these women
are credible witnesses.

1986
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:28,142
-Nothing but thieves.
-She's a nut.

1987
01:53:28,175 --> 01:53:30,311
She's a shakedown artist.

1988
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:02,544
Is it there? Is it online?

1989
01:54:02,577 --> 01:54:04,144
Yes. They have it, too.

1990
01:54:04,178 --> 01:54:05,346
So it's in both.

1991
01:54:06,614 --> 01:54:08,849
What happened?

1992
01:54:09,483 --> 01:54:11,118
What you'd expect.

1993
01:54:11,151 --> 01:54:13,153
Trying to discredit
the actresses.

1994
01:54:13,187 --> 01:54:14,221
What's wrong?

1995
01:54:14,254 --> 01:54:16,290
Harvey and his team have spoken

1996
01:54:16,323 --> 01:54:19,126
to <i>Variety</i>
and <i>Hollywood Reporter.</i>

1997
01:54:19,159 --> 01:54:21,395
-What?
-About us and the story.

1998
01:54:21,428 --> 01:54:23,832
He claims to be surprised by it.

1999
01:54:24,998 --> 01:54:26,433
This is bad.

2000
01:54:27,602 --> 01:54:29,403
You have to write fast.

2001
01:54:29,436 --> 01:54:30,638
We've just lost any privacy.

2002
01:54:32,406 --> 01:54:34,375
Let me see the lede.

2003
01:54:41,549 --> 01:54:44,118
No, I think that
we have to lead with this.

2004
01:54:44,151 --> 01:54:46,086
So that has to be
at the top of the paragraph.

2005
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:47,522
I think it's fine as two,
don't you?

2006
01:54:47,555 --> 01:54:49,056
I think it's right.

2007
01:54:50,991 --> 01:54:53,460
Go home. I'll check this.

2008
01:54:55,462 --> 01:54:56,631
Really?

2009
01:55:15,449 --> 01:55:17,418
And they're
really appealing to people.

2010
01:55:17,451 --> 01:55:20,154
If you know anything,
please come forward.

2011
01:55:32,299 --> 01:55:34,268
<i>Why shouldn't I just do</i>

2012
01:55:34,301 --> 01:55:36,970
a fucking interview right now
with <i>The Washington Post</i>

2013
01:55:37,004 --> 01:55:39,139
based on
your lack of transparency?

2014
01:55:39,173 --> 01:55:41,275
You want some sort of list
of who we're talking to

2015
01:55:41,308 --> 01:55:43,678
for this story, and
if we don't disclose it to you,

2016
01:55:43,711 --> 01:55:45,212
you're threatening us?

2017
01:55:45,245 --> 01:55:47,582
If you're using
Gwyneth Paltrow, tell me.

2018
01:55:47,615 --> 01:55:49,584
We're not using Gwyneth Paltrow.

2019
01:55:49,617 --> 01:55:52,352
Are you talking
to Gwyneth Paltrow?

2020
01:55:53,353 --> 01:55:55,322
Hey, Harvey, this is Dean.
Here's the deal.

2021
01:55:55,355 --> 01:55:56,724
You need to give us
your statement now.

2022
01:55:56,758 --> 01:55:58,459
I'm about to push the button.

2023
01:55:58,492 --> 01:56:01,061
Dean, let me tell you something
about intimidation.

2024
01:56:01,094 --> 01:56:02,664
I'll talk to <i>The Post.</i> I will.

2025
01:56:02,697 --> 01:56:04,465
Call them. That's fine.

2026
01:56:04,498 --> 01:56:06,033
You can call <i>The Post.</i>

2027
01:56:06,066 --> 01:56:08,001
Harvey, I'm trying
to be fair with you.

2028
01:56:08,035 --> 01:56:09,403
You are intimidating me, Dean.

2029
01:56:09,436 --> 01:56:10,738
No, I'm trying
to get your statement.

2030
01:56:10,772 --> 01:56:12,507
Please give it to us now.

2031
01:56:12,540 --> 01:56:14,274
We're about to publish.

2032
01:56:14,308 --> 01:56:16,711
-I want to give it to you.
-Thank you.

2033
01:56:16,744 --> 01:56:18,178
Is Gwyneth in it?

2034
01:56:18,212 --> 01:56:19,681
She's not in the story.

2035
01:56:19,714 --> 01:56:22,550
So here's what we need
to do, Harvey.

2036
01:56:22,584 --> 01:56:26,253
We want to give you every word
that you want to say.

2037
01:56:26,286 --> 01:56:27,689
So say it.

2038
01:56:27,722 --> 01:56:29,490
I also have
a newspaper to put out.

2039
01:56:29,524 --> 01:56:30,758
I'm gonna walk out.

2040
01:56:30,792 --> 01:56:33,695
Talk to my reporters. Take care.

2041
01:56:33,728 --> 01:56:35,229
Good luck.

2042
01:56:35,262 --> 01:56:37,599
You have a reckless
disregard for the truth.

2043
01:56:37,632 --> 01:56:41,636
You want a-a hit story,
and these allegations are false.

2044
01:56:41,669 --> 01:56:43,771
We don't want a hit story, Lisa.

2045
01:56:43,805 --> 01:56:45,540
Harvey's going to take
some time off

2046
01:56:45,573 --> 01:56:48,008
to focus on this issue.

2047
01:56:48,843 --> 01:56:50,778
Are you, Harvey?

2048
01:56:50,812 --> 01:56:54,047
Yes. I'm gonna take time off.

2049
01:56:54,081 --> 01:56:56,083
From the company?

2050
01:56:56,116 --> 01:56:58,786
Yes. I want to spend
some time learning.

2051
01:56:58,820 --> 01:57:00,487
Learning and listening to me.

2052
01:57:00,522 --> 01:57:02,790
He's going to take
a leave of absence.

2053
01:57:02,824 --> 01:57:05,392
Double space here.

2054
01:57:05,425 --> 01:57:07,629
And here.

2055
01:57:07,662 --> 01:57:09,463
It's Laura.

2056
01:57:10,565 --> 01:57:11,799
Perfect.

2057
01:57:11,833 --> 01:57:14,468
Hi. Laura, how are you?

2058
01:57:14,502 --> 01:57:18,105
Yes, I'm okay.

2059
01:57:18,138 --> 01:57:21,208
Today's my surgery.
I'm about to go in.

2060
01:57:21,241 --> 01:57:26,280
Um, look, I never signed
any contract.

2061
01:57:26,313 --> 01:57:30,150
I'm not gagged,
and I want to speak out

2062
01:57:30,183 --> 01:57:32,620
on behalf of the women
who can't.

2063
01:57:33,688 --> 01:57:36,189
I have three daughters,
and I don't want them

2064
01:57:36,223 --> 01:57:39,426
to ever accept
abuse or bullying as normal.

2065
01:57:40,662 --> 01:57:43,330
You can use anything I've said.

2066
01:57:43,363 --> 01:57:46,099
I'll do it.

2067
01:57:46,133 --> 01:57:48,368
I'll go on the record.

2068
01:57:49,571 --> 01:57:52,072
Thank you, Laura.

2069
01:57:52,807 --> 01:57:55,610
Thank you.

2070
01:57:55,643 --> 01:57:58,078
I'll be thinking of you.

2071
01:58:07,755 --> 01:58:09,423
Oh, Laura.

2072
01:58:09,456 --> 01:58:11,759
Oh, beautiful, beautiful Laura.

2073
01:58:25,172 --> 01:58:26,340
Are you okay, Laura?

2074
01:58:26,373 --> 01:58:28,810
Yes. I'm fine.

2075
01:58:28,843 --> 01:58:31,779
Thank you.

2076
01:58:31,813 --> 01:58:33,748
I really am.

2077
01:59:50,024 --> 01:59:52,794
The statements are in.
I'm pulling quotes.

2078
01:59:54,394 --> 01:59:55,697
Yep.

2079
01:59:59,332 --> 02:00:01,502
So, do you--
Okay. You're so good.

2080
02:00:20,888 --> 02:00:22,590
Have you pulled the quotes?

2081
02:00:22,623 --> 02:00:24,625
I'm doing it now.

2082
02:00:38,706 --> 02:00:40,608
It's ready to go.

2083
02:00:41,509 --> 02:00:44,579
Let's read it together
one last time.

2084
02:01:19,013 --> 02:01:21,414
-Yeah.
-One second.

2085
02:01:25,787 --> 02:01:26,921
Yeah.

2086
02:01:26,954 --> 02:01:28,656
Okay?

2087
02:01:30,825 --> 02:01:32,392
Okay?

2088
02:01:34,695 --> 02:01:35,797
-Yeah.
-Okay.