1 00:00:06,363 --> 00:00:10,803 two not-so-secret lovers, one of whom was playing with fire. 2 00:00:13,563 --> 00:00:15,163 It was certainly known within the family groups 3 00:00:15,243 --> 00:00:17,683 that he was leading almost a double life. 4 00:00:18,683 --> 00:00:21,043 {\an8}In the mix of a complicated world, 5 00:00:21,123 --> 00:00:23,483 {\an8}a man shopping in Poundland. 6 00:00:23,563 --> 00:00:28,363 He's buying these items that are very suspicious. 7 00:00:28,443 --> 00:00:29,883 Passions were running deep 8 00:00:29,963 --> 00:00:31,523 in a multi-partner intrigue. 9 00:00:32,083 --> 00:00:35,283 Caught in the middle, a teenager under pressure. 10 00:00:35,363 --> 00:00:38,723 I am not going to say my father killed your lover. 11 00:00:40,803 --> 00:00:44,563 {\an8}A story of sex, lies, and security tapes, 12 00:00:44,643 --> 00:00:48,523 {\an8}would police uncover the mystery of the body in the boot? 13 00:00:48,603 --> 00:00:51,803 It was clear to the police that somebody was lying to them 14 00:00:51,883 --> 00:00:53,323 and probably everyone was. 15 00:01:03,123 --> 00:01:05,803 {\an8} 16 00:01:09,403 --> 00:01:11,483 In 2003, at the age of 20 17 00:01:11,563 --> 00:01:13,803 and after an arranged marriage, 18 00:01:13,883 --> 00:01:16,203 Tanveer Iqbal began family life, 19 00:01:16,283 --> 00:01:18,843 making his home in a quiet street in Birmingham. 20 00:01:20,363 --> 00:01:23,163 He had settled and married his wife Nasreen, 21 00:01:23,243 --> 00:01:24,883 {\an8}and they had two children. 22 00:01:26,963 --> 00:01:28,123 He was well-liked. 23 00:01:28,203 --> 00:01:30,123 {\an8}He was doing well in his work, 24 00:01:30,203 --> 00:01:33,203 {\an8}he had status in the music industry. 25 00:01:33,283 --> 00:01:36,083 Tanveer worked in his family's music shop, 26 00:01:36,163 --> 00:01:38,963 High Tech Music, whilst he also tried to forge a career 27 00:01:39,043 --> 00:01:41,123 for himself as a DJ and producer. 28 00:01:42,683 --> 00:01:45,923 Five years into his arranged marriage to wife Nasreen, 29 00:01:46,003 --> 00:01:48,683 a customer walked in who would change everything. 30 00:01:49,963 --> 00:01:52,003 Her name, Zatoon Bibi. 31 00:01:56,283 --> 00:01:59,403 {\an8}Zatoon Bibi had met Tanveer Iqbal in 2008. 32 00:01:59,483 --> 00:02:02,123 {\an8}She just happened to be passing by a record store 33 00:02:02,203 --> 00:02:04,123 in Birmingham were he was working. 34 00:02:04,203 --> 00:02:06,123 She popped in, they started chatting, 35 00:02:06,203 --> 00:02:08,283 and eventually they exchanged numbers. 36 00:02:08,363 --> 00:02:12,203 {\an8}I think there are several characteristics about Tanveer 37 00:02:12,283 --> 00:02:14,083 {\an8}that Zatoon would have found very attractive. 38 00:02:14,163 --> 00:02:16,443 So, he was a few years younger than her. 39 00:02:16,523 --> 00:02:19,123 He was a pillar of the community. 40 00:02:19,203 --> 00:02:21,043 He was a well-known personality. 41 00:02:21,123 --> 00:02:23,443 He was involved in the music business. 42 00:02:23,523 --> 00:02:25,683 So, all of these things are quite attractive. 43 00:02:26,763 --> 00:02:28,283 The attraction was mutual. 44 00:02:28,363 --> 00:02:30,883 It wasn't long before Tanveer and Zatoon met 45 00:02:30,963 --> 00:02:34,083 for what was supposed to be a one-off fling. 46 00:02:34,163 --> 00:02:38,243 Zatoon and Tanveer had slept together on one occasion 47 00:02:38,323 --> 00:02:40,683 at a hotel in Birmingham. 48 00:02:41,163 --> 00:02:43,403 The reason it was supposed to be a one-off? 49 00:02:43,483 --> 00:02:47,243 Zatoon was also married to a man called Gul Nawaz, 50 00:02:47,323 --> 00:02:49,563 with whom she had four children. 51 00:02:49,643 --> 00:02:51,083 It was an arranged marriage. 52 00:02:51,163 --> 00:02:54,883 He was older than her and he was from Pakistan, 53 00:02:54,963 --> 00:02:56,963 and he came here after they were married. 54 00:02:57,763 --> 00:03:01,043 {\an8}They'd spent a very short period of time 55 00:03:02,483 --> 00:03:05,243 getting to know each other, 56 00:03:05,323 --> 00:03:08,243 but it was all very superficial as you can imagine. 57 00:03:08,883 --> 00:03:10,203 For Zatoon at least, 58 00:03:10,283 --> 00:03:13,963 family life back in Oldbury outside Birmingham was stifling. 59 00:03:15,003 --> 00:03:16,923 Her marriage has gone a bit stale, 60 00:03:17,003 --> 00:03:19,003 so I think to have the attention of this man, 61 00:03:19,083 --> 00:03:21,843 who's a bit younger, who's popular, 62 00:03:21,923 --> 00:03:25,043 is something that really puts the spring back in her step. 63 00:03:25,123 --> 00:03:29,443 There must have come a time when she realized 64 00:03:29,523 --> 00:03:31,603 that she wanted more from life, 65 00:03:31,683 --> 00:03:34,003 and I think that's when things started to go wrong. 66 00:03:34,083 --> 00:03:36,803 The bored housewife and her dynamic younger lover, 67 00:03:36,883 --> 00:03:38,243 both with partners and children, 68 00:03:38,323 --> 00:03:42,563 took things beyond a casual fling, dangerous territory. 69 00:03:42,643 --> 00:03:46,723 This didn't stop them from developing their relationship together. 70 00:03:46,803 --> 00:03:49,043 They became regular lovers. 71 00:03:49,123 --> 00:03:52,323 In a twist, Tanveer's two partners, 72 00:03:52,403 --> 00:03:54,083 Nasreen, his wife, and Zatoon, the lover, 73 00:03:54,163 --> 00:03:57,203 {\an8}appeared okay with the arrangement. 74 00:03:57,283 --> 00:04:00,123 {\an8}They both had knowledge of one another. 75 00:04:00,203 --> 00:04:02,003 {\an8}Tanveer's relationship with the two ladies 76 00:04:02,083 --> 00:04:03,563 {\an8}was quite well known. 77 00:04:05,043 --> 00:04:08,723 You've got two individuals from very traditional communities 78 00:04:08,803 --> 00:04:13,003 with very set ideas of what a family should look like and what it should be, 79 00:04:13,083 --> 00:04:16,122 especially outwardly facing to the community. 80 00:04:16,203 --> 00:04:17,923 And then behind closed doors, 81 00:04:18,002 --> 00:04:19,442 you've got all of this going on. 82 00:04:19,523 --> 00:04:23,123 He had a wife and children with another woman, 83 00:04:23,203 --> 00:04:25,163 and that was just accepted within the relationship 84 00:04:25,243 --> 00:04:27,083 that that was the setup. 85 00:04:27,163 --> 00:04:29,403 Zatoon's husband, Gul Nawaz, 86 00:04:29,483 --> 00:04:33,003 knew about his wife's romance on the side. 87 00:04:33,123 --> 00:04:37,363 He was aware that Zatoon was having a relationship with another man. 88 00:04:37,443 --> 00:04:40,843 I think he feels incredibly let down when he discovers 89 00:04:40,923 --> 00:04:44,523 that Zatoon has been carrying on with Tanveer behind his back. 90 00:04:46,003 --> 00:04:50,363 You had a complex situation in which Tanveer and Zatoon 91 00:04:50,443 --> 00:04:53,643 have this odd relationship. 92 00:04:53,723 --> 00:04:59,123 {\an8}They were obviously in love with each other at some point, 93 00:04:59,203 --> 00:05:04,403 but the fact that each of them have spouses, 94 00:05:04,483 --> 00:05:09,723 separate spouses, meant that life was very complicated. 95 00:05:09,803 --> 00:05:12,843 This relationship, it's a pressure cooker. 96 00:05:12,923 --> 00:05:14,963 And it's not an affair that either of them, 97 00:05:15,043 --> 00:05:17,043 I think, could just walk away from, 98 00:05:17,123 --> 00:05:19,843 because both of them are quite heavily invested in it. 99 00:05:20,483 --> 00:05:22,283 With a wife and two children at home 100 00:05:22,363 --> 00:05:24,243 and a steamy affair going on 101 00:05:24,323 --> 00:05:26,083 with an older, married mom-of-four, 102 00:05:26,163 --> 00:05:28,963 Tanveer Iqbal's tangled love life was set 103 00:05:29,043 --> 00:05:31,003 to become even more complicated. 104 00:05:31,083 --> 00:05:34,403 He was about to be a father with lover Zatoon as the mother. 105 00:05:34,483 --> 00:05:38,323 The couple were playing with fire and it was escalating. 106 00:05:38,403 --> 00:05:42,963 Zatoon Bibi got pregnant again with the fifth child. 107 00:05:43,043 --> 00:05:46,523 This is the point at which this kind of transforms 108 00:05:46,603 --> 00:05:49,563 from this relationship that she's having on the side, 109 00:05:49,643 --> 00:05:52,723 that's probably a bit of fun, that probably kind of brings 110 00:05:52,803 --> 00:05:56,003 a little bit of a sparkle into her life 111 00:05:56,083 --> 00:05:59,203 to something that is very serious because she's pregnant. 112 00:05:59,283 --> 00:06:01,003 She's going to have this baby, 113 00:06:01,083 --> 00:06:04,323 and this takes it to a whole new level. 114 00:06:04,403 --> 00:06:09,723 That obviously impacted on Tanveer's relationship with his wife, 115 00:06:09,803 --> 00:06:15,083 and it impacted on Zatoon's relationship with Gul. 116 00:06:15,163 --> 00:06:19,323 For Tanveer, things had suddenly got serious. 117 00:06:19,403 --> 00:06:22,043 You've got this parallel life that he's having. 118 00:06:22,123 --> 00:06:25,523 This isn't just an affair on the side anymore. 119 00:06:25,603 --> 00:06:29,603 This is a completely kind of formed family life. 120 00:06:31,963 --> 00:06:34,203 After the baby was born, Zatoon arranged 121 00:06:34,283 --> 00:06:37,683 for Tanveer to spend time with his daughter each week. 122 00:06:38,443 --> 00:06:40,963 Tanveer maintained and developed his relationship 123 00:06:41,043 --> 00:06:43,083 with both Zatoon and his daughter. 124 00:06:43,163 --> 00:06:44,723 They would regularly go out together, 125 00:06:44,803 --> 00:06:46,683 even going to London for a trip together. 126 00:06:47,923 --> 00:06:51,843 Zatoon went to London to meet Tanveer 127 00:06:51,923 --> 00:06:56,283 and to spend some time with him a few days, 128 00:06:56,363 --> 00:06:58,283 and she took the baby with her. 129 00:06:58,363 --> 00:07:01,963 And they'd taken photographs 130 00:07:02,043 --> 00:07:05,963 at various London attractions, 131 00:07:06,043 --> 00:07:08,843 She was foolish enough to keep hold of those 132 00:07:08,923 --> 00:07:11,843 and take them back 133 00:07:11,923 --> 00:07:14,763 and leave them in a cupboard in the house. 134 00:07:16,763 --> 00:07:20,763 Gul found a picture of Zatoon and Tanveer 135 00:07:20,843 --> 00:07:24,723 and their daughter on a little trip together that they'd taken. 136 00:07:25,763 --> 00:07:28,683 According to Zatoon, the accidental discovery 137 00:07:28,763 --> 00:07:32,563 at their Oldbury house sparked a terrifying reaction. 138 00:07:32,643 --> 00:07:36,163 Things turned ugly, Gul brandishing a kitchen knife 139 00:07:36,243 --> 00:07:39,123 and Zatoon forced to call 999. 140 00:07:40,563 --> 00:07:43,883 Zatoon claims that Gul became violent 141 00:07:43,963 --> 00:07:46,203 when he discovered this picture 142 00:07:46,283 --> 00:07:49,083 and that she had to go upstairs with her child 143 00:07:49,163 --> 00:07:51,203 and lock herself in the bathroom. 144 00:07:51,283 --> 00:07:53,883 And I think we always have to take any allegations 145 00:07:53,963 --> 00:07:57,243 of domestic abuse seriously, but what we also need to do 146 00:07:57,323 --> 00:08:01,643 is take a step back and look at how helpful 147 00:08:01,723 --> 00:08:04,003 is this particular narrative to Zatoon. 148 00:08:04,083 --> 00:08:06,083 Could she be using this as a way 149 00:08:06,163 --> 00:08:09,923 to paint a picture of herself, to create herself 150 00:08:10,003 --> 00:08:14,123 as a more sympathetic character in this story? 151 00:08:14,203 --> 00:08:16,283 By kind of dropping this in there, we do have to be 152 00:08:16,363 --> 00:08:20,003 quite skeptical of whether this is true or not. 153 00:08:21,443 --> 00:08:22,803 Whatever really happened 154 00:08:22,883 --> 00:08:26,203 in the Nawaz family home that day, it was a turning point. 155 00:08:28,883 --> 00:08:31,163 Essentially this kind of contributes 156 00:08:31,243 --> 00:08:33,403 to the breakdown of their relationship. 157 00:08:33,483 --> 00:08:36,123 Gul Decided that's it, I've had enough, 158 00:08:36,202 --> 00:08:38,803 and he had an Islamic divorce from Zatoon. 159 00:08:38,883 --> 00:08:43,763 And in the Islamic tradition, a divorce is pronounced 160 00:08:43,842 --> 00:08:47,883 by simply repeating the words I divorce you three times, 161 00:08:47,963 --> 00:08:49,563 and that's what he did. 162 00:08:50,483 --> 00:08:51,843 It may have appeared simple, 163 00:08:51,923 --> 00:08:54,963 but it wasn't the end of the complications. 164 00:08:55,723 --> 00:08:57,923 The problem with that was that... 165 00:08:59,203 --> 00:09:02,323 in the culture 166 00:09:02,403 --> 00:09:05,883 that they both were brought up in, 167 00:09:06,883 --> 00:09:08,883 divorce is a sin. 168 00:09:08,963 --> 00:09:13,763 And therefore, it could not be openly discussed, 169 00:09:13,843 --> 00:09:17,283 and the family had to be kept ignorant of it. 170 00:09:18,683 --> 00:09:20,363 Gul Nawaz agreed with his wife 171 00:09:20,443 --> 00:09:24,083 that they should keep up an appearance of still being married. 172 00:09:25,203 --> 00:09:29,803 What you then have was this bizarre pretense 173 00:09:29,883 --> 00:09:34,923 of the family living together in the same house, 174 00:09:35,003 --> 00:09:36,763 but separate lives. 175 00:09:36,843 --> 00:09:40,643 Instead of ending the relationship, 176 00:09:40,723 --> 00:09:43,563 saying, "I've had enough, 177 00:09:43,643 --> 00:09:44,843 "you've been unfaithful. 178 00:09:44,923 --> 00:09:49,243 I want a divorce in which we go our separate ways", 179 00:09:49,323 --> 00:09:53,843 he was prepared to, and possibly, 180 00:09:53,923 --> 00:09:59,003 I think, for his own benefit, for his own pride, 181 00:09:59,083 --> 00:10:02,923 for his own honor, and for hers as well, 182 00:10:03,003 --> 00:10:06,643 to live this lie that they were still husband and wife. 183 00:10:08,563 --> 00:10:11,083 Trapped in a fake life with Gul Nawaz, 184 00:10:11,163 --> 00:10:14,083 Zatoon began to figure out an escape plan. 185 00:10:14,763 --> 00:10:18,763 She then went on to have a second child with Tanveer. 186 00:10:18,843 --> 00:10:23,483 Zatoon feels entitled to this exclusive relationship with Tanveer. 187 00:10:23,563 --> 00:10:26,643 She feels that she deserves it because she's invested 188 00:10:26,723 --> 00:10:30,523 so much in terms of time and in terms of emotional energy. 189 00:10:31,603 --> 00:10:33,563 She may have wanted to control things 190 00:10:33,643 --> 00:10:35,563 with Tanveer, but their relationship, 191 00:10:35,643 --> 00:10:39,323 rooted in lies from the start, had problems. 192 00:10:40,163 --> 00:10:41,483 There was a lot of friction, 193 00:10:41,563 --> 00:10:46,523 a huge amount of distrust between Tanveer and Zatoon. 194 00:10:49,003 --> 00:10:50,403 {\an8}How was Zatoon going to deal 195 00:10:50,483 --> 00:10:52,963 {\an8}with Tanveer's wife Nasreen? 196 00:10:53,043 --> 00:10:57,203 This was an arrangement that was never going to be a sustainable one. 197 00:10:57,283 --> 00:11:00,563 {\an8}Zatoon realizes that she's pregnant. 198 00:11:00,643 --> 00:11:03,883 {\an8}One man, two women, six children... 199 00:11:04,563 --> 00:11:06,363 {\an8}it was never going to add up. 200 00:11:06,443 --> 00:11:11,083 It was an ambush. When Tanveer came in, he was jumped. 201 00:11:18,763 --> 00:11:20,803 Despite his affair and two children 202 00:11:20,883 --> 00:11:23,043 with Zatoon Bibi, Tanveer Iqbal stayed 203 00:11:23,123 --> 00:11:26,043 with his wife Nasreen and their children 204 00:11:26,123 --> 00:11:28,323 at the family home in Bearwood, Birmingham. 205 00:11:32,843 --> 00:11:35,603 {\an8}Nasreen came from a culture from Pakistan 206 00:11:35,683 --> 00:11:37,763 {\an8}where it was acceptable in certain circumstances 207 00:11:37,843 --> 00:11:40,443 that her husband could take a second wife. 208 00:11:40,523 --> 00:11:44,803 And somehow she reconciled herself to this arrangement. 209 00:11:44,883 --> 00:11:47,763 Not only tolerant of it, she almost embraced it. 210 00:11:48,443 --> 00:11:51,443 {\an8}Tanveer was her husband, she was his wife, this was her life, 211 00:11:51,523 --> 00:11:53,403 {\an8}and she was going to make it work. 212 00:11:54,283 --> 00:11:56,083 Tanveer seemed to have established 213 00:11:56,163 --> 00:11:58,643 what was for him the perfect love triangle. 214 00:11:59,643 --> 00:12:01,563 And so an extraordinary situation developed 215 00:12:01,643 --> 00:12:03,923 whereby Tanveer had two children with his own wife 216 00:12:04,003 --> 00:12:05,643 but two children with a woman 217 00:12:05,723 --> 00:12:07,443 with whom he was having an affair. 218 00:12:07,523 --> 00:12:10,483 Zatoon kept up a pretense of marriage to Gul, 219 00:12:10,563 --> 00:12:14,323 caring for their four children, including one, Khashim, 220 00:12:14,403 --> 00:12:17,283 who would play a big part in her later plans. 221 00:12:17,363 --> 00:12:20,923 {\an8}She also got herself a house just a few minutes away from her lover. 222 00:12:21,003 --> 00:12:24,363 {\an8}From here, she exerted control in a new way. 223 00:12:24,443 --> 00:12:26,603 {\an8}This time over Nasreen. 224 00:12:26,683 --> 00:12:29,563 {\an8}The relationship between the two ladies, 225 00:12:29,643 --> 00:12:34,083 {\an8}that's Tanveer's wife and Zatoon Bibi, 226 00:12:34,163 --> 00:12:36,603 {\an8}as you could probably appreciate it, wasn't a good one. 227 00:12:36,683 --> 00:12:39,443 {\an8}There'd been lots of communication between the two parties 228 00:12:39,523 --> 00:12:41,243 {\an8}over the telephone. 229 00:12:41,323 --> 00:12:44,403 While things were understandably frosty 230 00:12:44,483 --> 00:12:46,763 to begin with, Zatoon gradually wormed her way 231 00:12:46,843 --> 00:12:48,683 into Nasreen's confidence. 232 00:12:48,763 --> 00:12:50,643 Things began to change. 233 00:12:50,723 --> 00:12:53,283 Zatoon managed to get to meet her. 234 00:12:53,363 --> 00:12:57,203 She'd take her for coffee at Cafe's, they'd sit down, they'd have a natter. 235 00:12:57,283 --> 00:12:59,203 They'd talk about their respective lives 236 00:12:59,283 --> 00:13:00,963 and about the man that they shared. 237 00:13:01,043 --> 00:13:04,923 And slowly but surely Nasreen began to trust her. 238 00:13:05,803 --> 00:13:10,483 Here was Zatoon, this worldly wise woman older than Nasreen, 239 00:13:10,563 --> 00:13:13,283 understanding how British society worked. 240 00:13:13,363 --> 00:13:14,683 She befriended her. 241 00:13:16,083 --> 00:13:18,883 And, strangely enough, by some means 242 00:13:18,963 --> 00:13:20,803 she persuaded Nasreen 243 00:13:20,883 --> 00:13:23,163 that this triangular relationship could actually work. 244 00:13:23,243 --> 00:13:25,363 They appear to become friends, 245 00:13:25,443 --> 00:13:27,843 but I think what's going on here is that Zatoon 246 00:13:27,923 --> 00:13:30,323 is being quite manipulative. 247 00:13:30,403 --> 00:13:34,563 She wants Tanveer for herself, and it's always best 248 00:13:34,643 --> 00:13:36,723 to keep your friends close and your enemies closer. 249 00:13:36,803 --> 00:13:40,563 And I think that is literally what was going on in this case. 250 00:13:40,643 --> 00:13:43,283 And in order for her to be able to win her man, 251 00:13:43,363 --> 00:13:45,323 she needed to break that relationship 252 00:13:45,403 --> 00:13:47,443 between him and his wife. 253 00:13:52,043 --> 00:13:54,803 In August 2015, Tanveer found out 254 00:13:54,883 --> 00:13:56,723 what Zatoon had been up to. 255 00:13:57,523 --> 00:14:00,323 Tanveer finds out that Zatoon and Nasreen 256 00:14:00,403 --> 00:14:03,083 have become friends and that they are in touch 257 00:14:03,163 --> 00:14:06,563 with one another, and he is not happy with this whatsoever. 258 00:14:06,643 --> 00:14:09,163 There was a lot of conflict in the relationship, 259 00:14:09,243 --> 00:14:15,083 {\an8}and she was, to some extent, creating mischief 260 00:14:15,163 --> 00:14:17,843 as between Tanveer and his wife. 261 00:14:18,523 --> 00:14:21,763 Tanveer asks Nasreen and Zatoon to stop texting, 262 00:14:21,843 --> 00:14:23,403 {\an8}and there could be a number of reasons for this. 263 00:14:23,483 --> 00:14:26,323 {\an8}One of the reasons may be with the women 264 00:14:26,403 --> 00:14:28,683 {\an8}developing a relationship independently of him, 265 00:14:28,763 --> 00:14:31,683 he may have felt that he didn't have as much control 266 00:14:31,763 --> 00:14:34,283 of the situation as he did in the beginning. 267 00:14:34,363 --> 00:14:37,643 He doesn't want these two women in contact with each other. 268 00:14:37,723 --> 00:14:41,083 He wants to keep these two parts of his life separate. 269 00:14:41,163 --> 00:14:43,683 He wants them compartmentalized. 270 00:14:44,843 --> 00:14:47,603 Elizabeth Yardley is a professor of criminology 271 00:14:47,683 --> 00:14:48,963 at Birmingham City University. 272 00:14:49,043 --> 00:14:51,523 She believes Zatoon had an ulterior motive 273 00:14:51,603 --> 00:14:54,923 for courting her love rival so carefully. 274 00:14:55,003 --> 00:14:57,323 She wants Nasreen on side. 275 00:14:57,403 --> 00:14:59,963 She wants to be able to manipulate her. 276 00:15:00,043 --> 00:15:01,403 She wants to be able to find out things 277 00:15:01,483 --> 00:15:03,403 that she can use against her. 278 00:15:03,483 --> 00:15:06,523 So, they continue to be in touch 279 00:15:06,603 --> 00:15:08,323 and they actually get mobile phones 280 00:15:08,403 --> 00:15:10,563 and they save each other's numbers 281 00:15:10,643 --> 00:15:13,203 in these phones under pseudonyms. 282 00:15:14,083 --> 00:15:17,803 Zatoon is always looking to the future. 283 00:15:17,883 --> 00:15:21,403 She's wanting a future with Tanveer 284 00:15:21,483 --> 00:15:23,483 which is monogamous and which is exclusive. 285 00:15:23,563 --> 00:15:26,883 This strange set up took another bizarre twist. 286 00:15:26,963 --> 00:15:30,963 Zatoon knew that if she was to have Tanveer all to herself, 287 00:15:31,043 --> 00:15:33,683 she'd need to break his relationship with his wife. 288 00:15:33,763 --> 00:15:35,923 So this is quite sophisticated. 289 00:15:36,003 --> 00:15:38,003 It's quite a high level of manipulation 290 00:15:38,083 --> 00:15:39,123 that's going on here. 291 00:15:42,123 --> 00:15:43,883 Once Zatoon was confident 292 00:15:43,963 --> 00:15:46,203 that she had Nasreen under her influence, 293 00:15:46,283 --> 00:15:48,523 she began to sow the seeds of suspicion. 294 00:15:48,603 --> 00:15:51,763 {\an8}You can see in the text messages that pass between them, 295 00:15:51,843 --> 00:15:54,683 he's referring to Zatoon as a psycho. 296 00:15:56,003 --> 00:16:00,003 There was always a ticking time bomb going off in this situation. 297 00:16:00,083 --> 00:16:02,643 There was never going to be a moment 298 00:16:02,723 --> 00:16:04,323 when she got what she wanted, 299 00:16:04,403 --> 00:16:07,003 because Tanveer was just not going to give that to her. 300 00:16:08,123 --> 00:16:09,683 Zatoon had tried emotionally 301 00:16:09,763 --> 00:16:12,163 blackmailing Tanveer into leaving Nasreen. 302 00:16:12,243 --> 00:16:16,603 It was time to change strategy to get Nasreen to dump Tanveer. 303 00:16:17,603 --> 00:16:22,003 At some point, Zatoon started sending text messages 304 00:16:22,083 --> 00:16:23,523 that contained sexual images 305 00:16:23,603 --> 00:16:25,723 of her and Tanveer together to Nasreen. 306 00:16:25,803 --> 00:16:29,563 Zatoon is becoming increasingly desperate, 307 00:16:29,643 --> 00:16:33,483 and she wants to drive a wedge between Tanveer and Nasreen. 308 00:16:33,563 --> 00:16:36,603 So, she sends a sexually explicit video 309 00:16:36,683 --> 00:16:38,803 of Tanveer to Nasreen. 310 00:16:41,443 --> 00:16:45,083 The purpose of the video was clearly to upset Nasreen 311 00:16:45,163 --> 00:16:48,003 and to build some kind of a division between the couple. 312 00:16:48,083 --> 00:16:50,683 In fact, Zatoon's manipulation 313 00:16:50,763 --> 00:16:52,363 backfired spectacularly. 314 00:16:52,963 --> 00:16:56,603 Tanveer went absolutely mad when he discovered what had happened. 315 00:16:56,683 --> 00:16:58,523 He banned his wife Nasreen 316 00:16:58,603 --> 00:17:00,403 from ever talking to Zatoon again. 317 00:17:01,203 --> 00:17:04,523 And he says to Zatoon, I never want to see you again, 318 00:17:04,603 --> 00:17:06,723 that's it, it's done, it's over. 319 00:17:06,803 --> 00:17:10,402 He's had enough of his relationship with this woman. 320 00:17:12,043 --> 00:17:14,122 Zatoon had underestimated 321 00:17:14,203 --> 00:17:16,483 Tanveer's love for his wife Nasreen 322 00:17:16,563 --> 00:17:19,882 and perhaps overestimated his affection for her. 323 00:17:19,963 --> 00:17:23,323 With all her efforts falling to nothing, 324 00:17:23,402 --> 00:17:26,323 she realized that he would never leave his wife. 325 00:17:26,402 --> 00:17:29,163 I think this is the point at which Zatoon realizes 326 00:17:29,243 --> 00:17:31,803 that she is not a priority for Tanveer. 327 00:17:31,883 --> 00:17:34,283 She has only ever been an option to him. 328 00:17:34,363 --> 00:17:38,003 And now he's decided actually I'm going to leave this. 329 00:17:38,843 --> 00:17:40,803 Tanveer may have thought he had the power 330 00:17:40,883 --> 00:17:42,923 to end his relationship with Zatoon Bibi. 331 00:17:43,003 --> 00:17:44,563 She had other ideas. 332 00:17:45,923 --> 00:17:48,803 She could have felt quite sad at the breakdown of the relationship. 333 00:17:48,883 --> 00:17:50,283 She could have felt quite angry 334 00:17:50,363 --> 00:17:51,803 about the breakdown of the relationship. 335 00:17:51,883 --> 00:17:53,443 She could also have felt quite anxious 336 00:17:53,523 --> 00:17:55,323 about the breakdown of the relationship, 337 00:17:55,403 --> 00:17:58,243 because she was being confronted with the thing that she's lost. 338 00:17:58,323 --> 00:18:00,283 It was more than she could tolerate and accept. 339 00:18:01,403 --> 00:18:02,523 She made a plan. 340 00:18:02,603 --> 00:18:04,603 When he decides to leave, 341 00:18:04,683 --> 00:18:08,283 I think this sets off something incredibly toxic in Zatoon. 342 00:18:10,363 --> 00:18:13,723 Zatoon decides that if she can't have Tanveer Iqbal, 343 00:18:13,803 --> 00:18:16,283 no one will, he must die. 344 00:18:17,923 --> 00:18:23,923 Once Zatoon had come to the conclusion 345 00:18:24,003 --> 00:18:28,203 that the relationship with Tanveer was going nowhere 346 00:18:28,283 --> 00:18:31,963 and needed to be ended, the next question for her 347 00:18:32,043 --> 00:18:35,283 would have been how to end it. 348 00:18:39,763 --> 00:18:42,163 Rather than trying to control Tanveer 349 00:18:42,243 --> 00:18:44,443 by keeping him in the relationship with her, 350 00:18:44,523 --> 00:18:47,283 she decides to destroy him for leaving it. 351 00:18:49,603 --> 00:18:53,403 Sunday, January 31st, 2016, 352 00:18:53,483 --> 00:18:56,323 the day after Tanveer's 33rd birthday. 353 00:18:56,403 --> 00:18:59,203 {\an8}Zatoon began texting him, begging him. 354 00:18:59,283 --> 00:19:00,683 {\an8}She wanted forgiveness. 355 00:19:01,883 --> 00:19:05,443 She knows what buttons to push, what things to say to him. 356 00:19:05,523 --> 00:19:07,723 So, she says things like, "I'm sorry. 357 00:19:07,803 --> 00:19:09,723 "I promise that I'll obey you. 358 00:19:09,803 --> 00:19:11,563 "I won't get in touch with Nasreen again, 359 00:19:11,643 --> 00:19:13,523 we'll keep this all separate." 360 00:19:13,603 --> 00:19:14,923 Zatoon invited Tanveer 361 00:19:15,003 --> 00:19:16,603 to her Bartley Green home. 362 00:19:16,683 --> 00:19:19,323 A place that he'd visited before countless times, 363 00:19:19,403 --> 00:19:21,323 a place where he'd seen the two children 364 00:19:21,403 --> 00:19:24,083 they had together to spend time with them. 365 00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:27,923 She contacted Tanveer and said look, 366 00:19:28,003 --> 00:19:33,403 we haven't celebrated your birthday, and your two children, 367 00:19:33,483 --> 00:19:37,003 they want you to have a birthday cake 368 00:19:37,083 --> 00:19:39,963 and will you come to my house? 369 00:19:40,043 --> 00:19:42,483 We'll have a little birthday party. 370 00:19:42,563 --> 00:19:44,323 As he left for a shift at work, 371 00:19:44,403 --> 00:19:48,123 Tanveer told Nasreen he would be going to see Zatoon. 372 00:19:48,203 --> 00:19:50,483 He wouldn't be home until late. 373 00:19:50,563 --> 00:19:52,203 Nasreen wakes up the next day 374 00:19:52,283 --> 00:19:55,403 and discovers that Tanveer is not in the house. 375 00:19:56,403 --> 00:19:58,043 Family were concerned. 376 00:19:58,123 --> 00:19:59,923 Yeah, it was out of character for him not to return home. 377 00:20:00,003 --> 00:20:02,843 So the family, his brothers contacted the police 378 00:20:02,923 --> 00:20:05,163 to report him as a missing person. 379 00:20:05,243 --> 00:20:07,923 No investigation was immediately launched. 380 00:20:08,003 --> 00:20:10,483 When a man in his 30s doesn't come home, 381 00:20:10,563 --> 00:20:12,883 it is rarely a cause for concern. 382 00:20:15,283 --> 00:20:17,163 Our normal protocol is if it's an adult 383 00:20:17,243 --> 00:20:18,923 and there's no suspicious circumstances 384 00:20:19,003 --> 00:20:22,083 and there are no other, you know, concerning factors, 385 00:20:22,163 --> 00:20:23,523 we will just wait to see what happens 386 00:20:23,603 --> 00:20:25,083 and see if the person returns home 387 00:20:25,163 --> 00:20:27,043 sort of within 24 hours or so. 388 00:20:27,123 --> 00:20:29,163 And in this case, there was no alarming features. 389 00:20:29,243 --> 00:20:30,483 There was nothing that suggested 390 00:20:30,563 --> 00:20:33,003 that any harm would come to Tanveer. 391 00:20:34,683 --> 00:20:36,003 His wife Nasreen, however, 392 00:20:36,083 --> 00:20:37,643 was getting desperate. 393 00:20:37,723 --> 00:20:41,723 Knowing that Tanveer had intended to see Zatoon the previous evening, 394 00:20:41,803 --> 00:20:44,163 she dug out her mobile phone. 395 00:20:44,243 --> 00:20:47,083 She phoned Zatoon and asked her, have you seen him? 396 00:20:47,163 --> 00:20:50,123 Zatoon said "no, he didn't come. He wasn't here." 397 00:20:50,883 --> 00:20:53,603 And Zatoon says, "I have no idea where he is. 398 00:20:53,683 --> 00:20:55,083 I haven't seen him." 399 00:20:55,163 --> 00:20:58,523 The evening of 31st January, 2016, 400 00:20:58,603 --> 00:21:01,123 and Tanveer Iqbal, not home as expected, 401 00:21:01,203 --> 00:21:03,803 the following morning still no sign. 402 00:21:03,883 --> 00:21:05,243 What had happened? 403 00:21:05,363 --> 00:21:09,203 {\an8}The police would soon be tracking Tanveer's movements. 404 00:21:09,283 --> 00:21:11,803 {\an8}They were able to track Tanveer's car 405 00:21:11,883 --> 00:21:13,803 {\an8}right to Zatoon's door. 406 00:21:13,883 --> 00:21:15,883 {\an8} Questions were soon being asked. 407 00:21:15,963 --> 00:21:19,203 {\an8}What was the reason for the unusual behavior of Gul Nawaz? 408 00:21:19,283 --> 00:21:21,963 {\an8}We actually had CCTV imagery of Gul Nawaz 409 00:21:22,043 --> 00:21:26,443 {\an8}buying some cleaning products in a local Poundland store. 410 00:21:27,203 --> 00:21:29,163 Why would calls reveal that Zatoon Bibi 411 00:21:29,243 --> 00:21:33,403 was leaning on her son, Khashim, asking him to lie? 412 00:21:34,363 --> 00:21:38,363 {\an8}What was the truth behind an intrigue of sex, lies, 413 00:21:38,443 --> 00:21:40,083 {\an8}security tapes, 414 00:21:40,163 --> 00:21:43,283 {\an8}and the mystery of a missing man, Tanveer Iqbal? 415 00:21:53,963 --> 00:21:57,203 Initially, the police had not been too disturbed 416 00:21:57,283 --> 00:22:00,123 by Tanveer Iqbal's disappearance. 417 00:22:00,203 --> 00:22:02,403 {\an8}There was no reason to think that anything untoward 418 00:22:02,483 --> 00:22:04,363 {\an8}had happened to him because he appeared 419 00:22:04,443 --> 00:22:07,683 to be a happy, family man, part of a family business 420 00:22:07,763 --> 00:22:11,283 with a healthy relationship with all of his family members. 421 00:22:12,043 --> 00:22:13,363 But as the hours passed, 422 00:22:13,443 --> 00:22:15,443 police became deeply concerned, 423 00:22:15,523 --> 00:22:18,323 more so when family members reported 424 00:22:18,403 --> 00:22:21,283 that they had found Tanveer's car. 425 00:22:21,363 --> 00:22:24,843 His own car was a Renault Clio, and that was found 426 00:22:24,923 --> 00:22:26,803 not too far away from his home address. 427 00:22:26,883 --> 00:22:30,043 It was found parked on Portland Road facing the wrong way. 428 00:22:30,123 --> 00:22:31,363 And when they open the car... 429 00:22:32,363 --> 00:22:36,723 It was on the Monday morning after his disappearance 430 00:22:36,803 --> 00:22:38,803 that the grim discovery was made. 431 00:22:41,243 --> 00:22:45,763 {\an8}Inside the boot was his body wrapped in a cardboard box. 432 00:22:47,483 --> 00:22:50,723 Really undignified end to this man's life. 433 00:22:50,803 --> 00:22:53,123 {\an8}It was almost like dumping a piece of trash. 434 00:22:53,203 --> 00:22:55,003 {\an8}You know, I'm getting rid of this. 435 00:22:55,083 --> 00:22:57,883 {\an8}I'm just going to put it in this old box 436 00:22:57,963 --> 00:23:00,803 and tape up this old box and forget about it. 437 00:23:00,883 --> 00:23:04,323 And that is literally what they did with this individual. 438 00:23:04,403 --> 00:23:07,243 One of the first steps as any lead investigator is 439 00:23:07,323 --> 00:23:09,123 to secure and preserve evidence. 440 00:23:11,323 --> 00:23:12,923 That evidence showed Tanveer found 441 00:23:13,003 --> 00:23:14,923 in a wrapped cardboard box, 442 00:23:15,003 --> 00:23:19,803 tied with a nylon rope and bound with silver duct tape. 443 00:23:19,883 --> 00:23:22,483 The pathologist's evidence was that Tanveer 444 00:23:22,563 --> 00:23:26,003 had died because of the use of a ligature around his neck 445 00:23:26,083 --> 00:23:27,803 and a pressure had been applied. 446 00:23:27,883 --> 00:23:29,963 In other words, in common language, 447 00:23:30,043 --> 00:23:31,523 he'd been strangled to death. 448 00:23:32,683 --> 00:23:34,923 And when we look at that particular method, 449 00:23:35,003 --> 00:23:37,883 it's a way of watching the life drain from somebody, 450 00:23:37,963 --> 00:23:41,603 so people who use that method in killing their victims 451 00:23:41,683 --> 00:23:45,043 are people who enjoy those feelings of power and control 452 00:23:45,123 --> 00:23:46,963 and being the person who is in charge 453 00:23:47,043 --> 00:23:50,283 of whether this person gets to live or die. 454 00:23:50,363 --> 00:23:54,083 So, it's very meaningful, it's very significant as a method. 455 00:23:54,163 --> 00:23:56,603 It appeared that the same nylon rope 456 00:23:56,683 --> 00:23:58,803 that was used to wrap the cardboard box 457 00:23:58,883 --> 00:24:00,923 was used to kill Tanveer. 458 00:24:01,003 --> 00:24:02,683 It would take a strong assailant 459 00:24:02,763 --> 00:24:05,723 or more than one person to do that. 460 00:24:05,803 --> 00:24:08,963 And the other remarkable feature was the driver's seat 461 00:24:09,043 --> 00:24:10,963 was really far forward to the steering wheel, 462 00:24:11,043 --> 00:24:12,883 really close to the steering wheel, 463 00:24:12,963 --> 00:24:14,883 indicating that whoever had disposed of the vehicle there 464 00:24:14,963 --> 00:24:17,403 was probably small or quite short in height. 465 00:24:18,483 --> 00:24:21,883 It was a puzzle, it was a murder investigation. 466 00:24:21,963 --> 00:24:24,363 Tanveer, a man in the prime of his life, 467 00:24:24,443 --> 00:24:27,003 had been overpowered and strangled. 468 00:24:27,083 --> 00:24:29,723 The investigation rapidly scaled up. 469 00:24:31,123 --> 00:24:33,203 We will speak to immediate witnesses, 470 00:24:33,283 --> 00:24:35,323 we'll look for witnesses in the area, 471 00:24:35,403 --> 00:24:37,883 we'll seek to resolve any forensic opportunities 472 00:24:37,963 --> 00:24:39,963 that can be achieved immediately, 473 00:24:40,043 --> 00:24:43,323 and we'll also look for any CCTV opportunities that may exist. 474 00:24:44,443 --> 00:24:46,763 {\an8}The focus was very much around the family, 475 00:24:46,843 --> 00:24:49,643 {\an8}around focusing upon building a good relationship 476 00:24:49,723 --> 00:24:51,843 {\an8}with the family in order to get as much information 477 00:24:51,923 --> 00:24:53,483 {\an8}from them as we could. 478 00:24:53,563 --> 00:24:57,003 And also then looking at Tanveer's life in general 479 00:24:57,083 --> 00:24:58,963 and looking at what his lifestyle was 480 00:24:59,043 --> 00:25:00,523 and who his friends were. 481 00:25:00,603 --> 00:25:02,403 And that's when of course we learned 482 00:25:02,483 --> 00:25:04,443 about the relationship with Zatoon Bibi. 483 00:25:05,323 --> 00:25:07,123 Now for any investigating officer, 484 00:25:07,203 --> 00:25:08,803 this is really significant. 485 00:25:08,883 --> 00:25:12,683 This is a distinct flashing beacon that needs attention. 486 00:25:12,763 --> 00:25:15,963 They will want to see whether this illicit relationship 487 00:25:16,043 --> 00:25:19,123 has any association with his murder. 488 00:25:19,883 --> 00:25:21,683 When you're dealing with a murder inquiry 489 00:25:21,763 --> 00:25:24,003 and you hear of a second relationship 490 00:25:24,083 --> 00:25:26,643 or a third relationship within a marriage, 491 00:25:26,723 --> 00:25:29,603 you certainly would consider that to be something that's worthy of interest. 492 00:25:29,683 --> 00:25:31,283 And I would consider it as a red flag, 493 00:25:31,363 --> 00:25:33,323 something that needs closer attention. 494 00:25:34,163 --> 00:25:35,603 Although there were red flags 495 00:25:35,683 --> 00:25:37,563 about Tanveer's two families, 496 00:25:37,643 --> 00:25:40,443 Paul Joyce was treading carefully. 497 00:25:40,523 --> 00:25:44,403 Zatoon Bibi never jumped out as a suspect immediately 498 00:25:44,483 --> 00:25:46,683 to me as the lead investigator on this case. 499 00:25:46,763 --> 00:25:49,923 And it was only as we sort of edged into the investigation, 500 00:25:50,003 --> 00:25:52,603 a number of days, in where my mind 501 00:25:52,683 --> 00:25:54,923 was sort of focused upon Zatoon. 502 00:25:55,003 --> 00:25:57,123 My kind of natural senses were telling me that 503 00:25:57,203 --> 00:26:01,563 she had more to do with this than was initially evident. 504 00:26:01,643 --> 00:26:04,083 In the hunt for the driver of the Renault Clio, 505 00:26:04,163 --> 00:26:05,483 she fitted the bill. 506 00:26:05,563 --> 00:26:07,923 Zatoon is short, a little over five feet tall, 507 00:26:08,003 --> 00:26:10,883 and the position of the car seat suggested a short person 508 00:26:10,963 --> 00:26:14,203 had been the last to drive Tanveer's car. 509 00:26:14,283 --> 00:26:16,603 That fact suggested other lines of inquiry 510 00:26:16,683 --> 00:26:19,163 with Zatoon a person of interest. 511 00:26:19,243 --> 00:26:20,803 She couldn't have done this on her own. 512 00:26:20,883 --> 00:26:23,523 And from the very early stages, to me, 513 00:26:23,603 --> 00:26:25,083 it was obvious that somebody must've helped her. 514 00:26:25,163 --> 00:26:29,203 For example, a very small female couldn't pick up a 13 stone male, 515 00:26:29,283 --> 00:26:31,563 couldn't probably overpower a young, fit, 516 00:26:31,643 --> 00:26:33,163 healthy male on her own. 517 00:26:34,203 --> 00:26:37,043 {\an8} Detectives looked for more CCTV footage. 518 00:26:39,963 --> 00:26:43,603 CCTV played a major part in showing and painting 519 00:26:43,683 --> 00:26:46,283 the picture of exactly what happened to Tanveer 520 00:26:46,363 --> 00:26:47,603 in the moments leading up to his death. 521 00:26:48,323 --> 00:26:50,603 Police already knew that Tanveer intended 522 00:26:50,683 --> 00:26:52,843 to visit Zatoon's house that Sunday afternoon. 523 00:26:52,923 --> 00:26:56,403 They did not know the role that her teenage son, Khashim, 524 00:26:56,483 --> 00:27:00,283 {\an8}and her husband Gul Nawaz were about to play in murder. 525 00:27:02,043 --> 00:27:05,323 The CCTV from the neighboring house was very revealing. 526 00:27:06,003 --> 00:27:10,643 {\an8}5:30 pm Sunday evening, a Vauxhall Zafira pulls up 527 00:27:10,723 --> 00:27:13,083 {\an8}at the Zatoon Bibi's home. 528 00:27:13,163 --> 00:27:14,723 {\an8}Two males and a female can be seen 529 00:27:14,803 --> 00:27:17,003 {\an8}taking things out of the boot. 530 00:27:17,083 --> 00:27:19,563 {\an8}Who were the two men? 531 00:27:19,643 --> 00:27:22,163 {\an8}It showed that Zatoon had turned up with her husband 532 00:27:22,243 --> 00:27:26,283 {\an8}and her son not long before Tanveer arrived. 533 00:27:26,363 --> 00:27:31,843 {\an8}We see on CCTV footage that Zatoon, Gul Nawaz, and Kashim 534 00:27:31,923 --> 00:27:34,563 {\an8}get out of the car and they go inside. 535 00:27:38,043 --> 00:27:40,203 Kashim, Zatoon's teenage son. 536 00:27:40,283 --> 00:27:43,163 {\an8}An hour later, Tanveer Iqbal arrives at the property 537 00:27:43,243 --> 00:27:44,683 {\an8}in his Renault Clio. 538 00:27:45,763 --> 00:27:48,043 {\an8}They were able to track Tanveer's car 539 00:27:48,123 --> 00:27:49,483 right to Zatoon's door. 540 00:27:54,243 --> 00:27:56,083 He's probably feeling quite kind of upbeat. 541 00:27:56,163 --> 00:27:58,843 He thinks he's getting this little life on the side 542 00:27:58,923 --> 00:28:01,683 back on his terms, just the way that he wants things. 543 00:28:02,363 --> 00:28:04,163 {\an8}Another hour passes. 544 00:28:04,243 --> 00:28:07,603 {\an8}At around 7:30 pm, someone emerges from the house, 545 00:28:07,683 --> 00:28:09,883 {\an8}turns Tanveer's Clio around, 546 00:28:09,963 --> 00:28:12,163 {\an8}and reverses it up to the front door. 547 00:28:13,563 --> 00:28:16,563 {\an8}Then you see a large object being loaded into the boot, 548 00:28:16,643 --> 00:28:19,563 {\an8}and then you've got the boot being closed by Zatoon, 549 00:28:19,643 --> 00:28:21,163 and then the vehicle is driven off, 550 00:28:21,243 --> 00:28:23,603 {\an8}followed by a family vehicle. 551 00:28:23,683 --> 00:28:26,923 {\an8}And who we believed at the time was her son and her husband. 552 00:28:28,203 --> 00:28:31,243 {\an8}From that moment onwards it was clear that Zatoon, 553 00:28:31,323 --> 00:28:34,483 her husband, and the teenage boy that they had together 554 00:28:34,563 --> 00:28:38,163 {\an8}were going to be the prime suspects for this murder. 555 00:28:38,243 --> 00:28:40,443 {\an8}The CCTV from the neighbor's house wasn't 556 00:28:40,523 --> 00:28:42,203 {\an8}the only useful footage 557 00:28:42,283 --> 00:28:44,363 {\an8}that detectives found that night. 558 00:28:44,443 --> 00:28:47,123 {\an8}Street cameras picked up more vital evidence 559 00:28:47,203 --> 00:28:49,683 {\an8}about Zatoon and the two men. 560 00:28:50,363 --> 00:28:54,883 They left that house in convoy and took the car to Edgbaston, 561 00:28:54,963 --> 00:28:57,163 {\an8}where Zatoon parked it up and left it unlocked. 562 00:28:59,083 --> 00:29:03,003 {\an8}We were able to identify some CCTV that showed a female 563 00:29:03,083 --> 00:29:05,163 {\an8}walking away from the deposition site 564 00:29:05,243 --> 00:29:07,123 {\an8}on the night of the vehicle being dropped off. 565 00:29:07,683 --> 00:29:10,723 {\an8}And minutes later, she is captured on camera again. 566 00:29:10,803 --> 00:29:16,083 {\an8}She left the car on the street and then went off 567 00:29:16,163 --> 00:29:19,203 {\an8}and called Gul Nawaz to come and pick her up. 568 00:29:19,283 --> 00:29:23,523 {\an8}So he came, picked her up, and then took her back home. 569 00:29:23,603 --> 00:29:26,443 That was when the investigation started to come alive for me. 570 00:29:27,683 --> 00:29:31,403 {\an8}We start to build a compelling, evidential case against Zatoon. 571 00:29:32,683 --> 00:29:34,643 And not just Zatoon. 572 00:29:34,723 --> 00:29:38,563 Her husband Gul and their 15-year-old son Kashim were 573 00:29:38,643 --> 00:29:42,203 {\an8}the others confirmed as those on the CCTV footage. 574 00:29:42,283 --> 00:29:44,843 {\an8}Detective Inspector Paul Joyce felt 575 00:29:44,923 --> 00:29:47,603 {\an8}he was getting to the truth of what had happened 576 00:29:47,683 --> 00:29:50,363 to the man in the boot, Tanveer Iqbal. 577 00:29:51,283 --> 00:29:53,323 The CCTV strategy as well was widened out 578 00:29:53,403 --> 00:29:55,123 to local department stores, shops, 579 00:29:55,203 --> 00:29:56,563 et cetera in the local area. 580 00:29:57,483 --> 00:30:00,163 {\an8} The trawl for CCTV picks up Gul Nawaz. 581 00:30:00,243 --> 00:30:02,843 {\an8}We actually had CCTV imagery of Gul Nawaz 582 00:30:02,923 --> 00:30:07,363 {\an8}buying some cleaning products in a local Poundland store. 583 00:30:07,443 --> 00:30:10,683 {\an8}Gul Nawaz bought rope and some duct tape. 584 00:30:10,763 --> 00:30:12,803 He was buying things like cleaning products, 585 00:30:12,883 --> 00:30:14,283 bleach, rubber gloves. 586 00:30:14,363 --> 00:30:16,803 They see that he's buying these items 587 00:30:16,883 --> 00:30:18,883 that are very suspicious. 588 00:30:18,963 --> 00:30:20,843 And so in that way, the police were able 589 00:30:20,923 --> 00:30:23,363 to build up a picture of two prime suspects, 590 00:30:23,443 --> 00:30:26,723 and it was only later that the evidence came out 591 00:30:26,803 --> 00:30:30,163 that Kashim was there as well from the CCTV. 592 00:30:32,563 --> 00:30:35,363 {\an8}Had the two men been buying a kill kit? 593 00:30:35,443 --> 00:30:38,003 Did officers have enough to arrest Zatoon Bibi, 594 00:30:38,083 --> 00:30:43,283 mother to Kashim, wife to Gul, and lover to Tanveer Iqbal? 595 00:30:43,363 --> 00:30:45,243 And what lengths would Zatoon go to 596 00:30:45,323 --> 00:30:48,123 in order to avoid a conviction for murder? 597 00:30:48,203 --> 00:30:52,083 She was effectively feeding her son the story 598 00:30:52,163 --> 00:30:55,883 that she wanted him to tell at trial. 599 00:30:55,963 --> 00:30:58,243 Zatoon Bibi continually throughout the trial 600 00:30:58,323 --> 00:31:00,043 blamed everybody else and never took 601 00:31:00,123 --> 00:31:04,683 any personal responsibility for any of the plans herself. 602 00:31:04,763 --> 00:31:07,803 I think she simply saw him as a disposable henchman. 603 00:31:07,883 --> 00:31:10,123 He was a means to an end here. 604 00:31:10,203 --> 00:31:13,963 Was Gul Nawaz about to be framed for murder? 605 00:31:18,843 --> 00:31:21,203 {\an8}There was plenty of CCTV footage to back up 606 00:31:21,283 --> 00:31:24,403 {\an8}the investigators' theory of what had happened to Tanveer. 607 00:31:24,483 --> 00:31:27,283 {\an8}He had been killed sometime between Sunday afternoon 608 00:31:27,363 --> 00:31:30,963 and 7:30 pm on January 31st 609 00:31:31,043 --> 00:31:34,083 {\an8}and in the house owned by Zatoon Bibi. 610 00:31:34,163 --> 00:31:36,403 {\an8}Forensic evidence came next. 611 00:31:36,483 --> 00:31:39,403 {\an8}We were able to recover some DNA evidence 612 00:31:39,483 --> 00:31:43,883 {\an8}from within the box where Tanveer was prepared and wrapped 613 00:31:43,963 --> 00:31:46,123 {\an8}after he'd been killed, and we were able to show 614 00:31:46,203 --> 00:31:48,963 {\an8}and attribute that DNA back to Gul Nawaz. 615 00:31:49,043 --> 00:31:51,883 {\an8}The DNA on that tape showed that both Gul 616 00:31:51,963 --> 00:31:54,803 {\an8}and the teenage son had been involved. 617 00:31:54,883 --> 00:31:58,923 {\an8}This isn't a case of really criminally sophisticated individuals. 618 00:31:59,003 --> 00:32:01,283 {\an8}This is a case of people getting involved in something 619 00:32:01,363 --> 00:32:04,483 that they really do not know how to cover up. 620 00:32:06,163 --> 00:32:08,803 Gul Nawaz, the very man whose life 621 00:32:08,883 --> 00:32:11,603 had been turned upside down by his wife's affair, 622 00:32:11,683 --> 00:32:15,243 agreed to the plot to kill Tanveer. 623 00:32:15,323 --> 00:32:18,083 Tanveer's mobile phone history was analyzed. 624 00:32:18,923 --> 00:32:20,323 You know, the last person that he called, 625 00:32:20,403 --> 00:32:22,323 the last contact he had, the last time he used the internet, 626 00:32:22,403 --> 00:32:23,843 and all these kinds of stuff. 627 00:32:23,923 --> 00:32:25,723 {\an8}It's extremely painstaking and long winded, 628 00:32:25,803 --> 00:32:27,923 {\an8}but it's very, very successful in terms of yielding 629 00:32:28,003 --> 00:32:30,003 {\an8}that final product around being able 630 00:32:30,083 --> 00:32:31,243 {\an8}to trace somebody's steps. 631 00:32:31,323 --> 00:32:32,643 It paints quite a compelling picture 632 00:32:32,723 --> 00:32:34,203 of where somebody is at a certain time. 633 00:32:35,003 --> 00:32:38,043 Tanveer's phone placed him at Zatoon's house. 634 00:32:38,123 --> 00:32:40,203 Meanwhile, the phones of the other suspects 635 00:32:40,283 --> 00:32:41,963 gave away their movements. 636 00:32:42,563 --> 00:32:47,083 The mobile phone belonging to her ex-husband Gul and her son, 637 00:32:47,163 --> 00:32:49,763 they happen to be in the same location. 638 00:32:50,523 --> 00:32:51,843 {\an8}On February 8th, 639 00:32:51,923 --> 00:32:54,403 {\an8}a week after Tanveer Iqbal's body had been found 640 00:32:54,483 --> 00:32:56,403 {\an8}in the boot of his abandoned car, 641 00:32:56,483 --> 00:32:58,723 his lover, Zatoon Bibi, was arrested 642 00:32:58,803 --> 00:33:02,243 and taken to Smethwick police station for questioning. 643 00:33:02,323 --> 00:33:04,683 She didn't really cooperate very much with the officers 644 00:33:04,763 --> 00:33:06,203 and really failed and refused to answer 645 00:33:06,283 --> 00:33:07,923 any of the questions. 646 00:33:08,003 --> 00:33:10,643 Her husband, Gul Nawaz, was also arrested, 647 00:33:10,723 --> 00:33:13,163 but he denied any involvement in Tanveer's murder 648 00:33:13,243 --> 00:33:15,003 and was released the next day. 649 00:33:15,803 --> 00:33:18,963 More than two weeks later, as the evidence mounted, 650 00:33:19,043 --> 00:33:22,683 Gul was arrested again, along with his son Kashim. 651 00:33:22,763 --> 00:33:24,843 Under questioning, all three had denied any knowledge 652 00:33:24,923 --> 00:33:26,723 of what had happened to Tanveer. 653 00:33:27,603 --> 00:33:28,963 It was clear to the police 654 00:33:29,043 --> 00:33:31,723 that somebody was lying to them and probably everyone was. 655 00:33:32,723 --> 00:33:34,963 Later that day, after questioning father and son, 656 00:33:35,043 --> 00:33:38,643 police charged them and Zatoon Bibi with murder. 657 00:33:40,643 --> 00:33:43,203 She had enlisted the support of her husband 658 00:33:43,283 --> 00:33:45,083 in order to commit these horrible acts against Tanveer. 659 00:33:46,763 --> 00:33:48,523 The Crown Prosecution case was 660 00:33:48,603 --> 00:33:52,363 that Zatoon Bibi, a scorned lover, had set the murder up. 661 00:33:53,123 --> 00:33:57,283 She was intent on getting rid of Tanveer. 662 00:33:58,083 --> 00:34:00,363 And there is no doubt 663 00:34:00,443 --> 00:34:03,963 {\an8}that she was the orchestrator 664 00:34:04,043 --> 00:34:09,603 {\an8}of the plan that was then hatched to kill Tanveer. 665 00:34:09,682 --> 00:34:14,323 There is no way that she could have killed him by herself. 666 00:34:14,403 --> 00:34:19,963 She's a woman, he's a strapping young man. 667 00:34:20,043 --> 00:34:22,682 She needed to recruit somebody. 668 00:34:22,762 --> 00:34:24,722 And the men she chose for the job, 669 00:34:24,803 --> 00:34:28,282 her school age son and the husband she had left. 670 00:34:28,363 --> 00:34:31,202 She decided to persuade the very man 671 00:34:31,282 --> 00:34:33,963 whose life had been ruined by her relationship with Tanveer 672 00:34:34,043 --> 00:34:35,923 to help her to get rid of him. 673 00:34:36,003 --> 00:34:40,083 {\an8}It was Gul who had collected the murder kit. 674 00:34:40,163 --> 00:34:43,762 I think Zatoon was very deliberate in sending him out 675 00:34:43,843 --> 00:34:47,923 {\an8}to pick up these things, because it looks like he is the killer. 676 00:34:48,682 --> 00:34:50,923 Even behind bars, Zatoon continued 677 00:34:51,003 --> 00:34:55,682 to attempt to manipulate the situation for her own benefit. 678 00:34:55,762 --> 00:34:57,883 All three were in different establishments, 679 00:34:57,963 --> 00:34:59,963 Zatoon obviously in a women's prison, 680 00:35:00,043 --> 00:35:03,043 her husband in a adult male prison, 681 00:35:03,123 --> 00:35:06,723 and the son in a teenage place of incarceration. 682 00:35:06,803 --> 00:35:10,283 What then transpired over the next few months was that 683 00:35:10,363 --> 00:35:14,563 Zatoon was phoning her son on a regular basis. 684 00:35:15,283 --> 00:35:17,763 Jo Sidhu represented Zatoon Bibi in court 685 00:35:17,843 --> 00:35:20,403 at her subsequent trial for murder. 686 00:35:20,483 --> 00:35:23,403 He had a special insight into her state of mind. 687 00:35:23,483 --> 00:35:25,803 She was excitable and vociferous 688 00:35:25,883 --> 00:35:28,483 in every conversation that I had with her. 689 00:35:28,563 --> 00:35:30,083 It seemed on the face of it that she was calling him 690 00:35:30,163 --> 00:35:33,403 just to give him emotional motherly support, 691 00:35:33,483 --> 00:35:35,803 but in fact, those calls were recorded. 692 00:35:35,883 --> 00:35:37,803 At her trial the transcripts of those calls 693 00:35:37,883 --> 00:35:41,483 were revealed to the jury, and they told their own story. 694 00:35:41,563 --> 00:35:46,083 There was a huge amount of telephone traffic 695 00:35:46,163 --> 00:35:50,203 passing between Zatoon and Kashim 696 00:35:50,283 --> 00:35:52,363 in which what she was doing 697 00:35:52,443 --> 00:35:56,003 was trying to persuade her son 698 00:35:56,083 --> 00:35:59,363 to blame his father. 699 00:35:59,443 --> 00:36:02,043 Zatoon's plan was for her 15-year-old son, Kashim, 700 00:36:02,123 --> 00:36:03,483 to deny that the two of them 701 00:36:03,563 --> 00:36:06,843 had even been in the room when Tanveer was murdered. 702 00:36:06,923 --> 00:36:08,643 Actually, what Zatoon was doing 703 00:36:08,723 --> 00:36:11,683 was prepping her son to give a false story. 704 00:36:11,763 --> 00:36:15,003 That false story would make her look innocent 705 00:36:15,083 --> 00:36:18,643 and the son too, but would point the finger at Gul Nawaz. 706 00:36:21,723 --> 00:36:27,403 What you see there is the manipulative Zatoon Bibi 707 00:36:28,403 --> 00:36:33,123 manipulating her son to come up with a story 708 00:36:33,203 --> 00:36:35,963 in which all of the blame for what happened 709 00:36:36,043 --> 00:36:39,483 is put on Kashim's father, her ex-husband. 710 00:36:39,563 --> 00:36:41,243 The teenager was initially reluctant 711 00:36:41,323 --> 00:36:43,243 to go along with his mother's lies. 712 00:36:43,323 --> 00:36:45,803 What you see in the recorded calls from the prison 713 00:36:45,883 --> 00:36:49,043 is Kashim saying "I'm not going to do it. 714 00:36:49,123 --> 00:36:53,883 I am not going to say my father killed your lover." 715 00:36:53,963 --> 00:36:56,483 Slowly, mother bent Son to her will. 716 00:36:56,563 --> 00:37:01,323 He was slowly worn down by his mother manipulating him, 717 00:37:01,403 --> 00:37:06,243 emotionally blackmailing him, saying, "there is a way 718 00:37:06,323 --> 00:37:11,163 "for you and me to avoid being convicted of murder. 719 00:37:11,243 --> 00:37:14,243 "Do you want to be convicted of murder? 720 00:37:14,323 --> 00:37:17,603 "If we stick together and we tell this story, 721 00:37:17,683 --> 00:37:23,003 your father will go to prison, but not you or me." 722 00:37:23,963 --> 00:37:25,603 The story that Zatoon presented 723 00:37:25,683 --> 00:37:28,283 to the outside world was that Tanveer's death 724 00:37:28,363 --> 00:37:30,003 was nothing to do with her. 725 00:37:30,563 --> 00:37:33,083 In all my meetings with Zatoon Bibi, 726 00:37:33,163 --> 00:37:36,243 both before the trial and during it, 727 00:37:36,323 --> 00:37:38,243 she vehemently protested her innocence. 728 00:37:38,323 --> 00:37:40,083 She was affronted about the fact 729 00:37:40,163 --> 00:37:42,643 that she was even being accused of having killed Tanveer. 730 00:37:42,723 --> 00:37:47,003 When this case goes to trial, everybody is blaming everybody else, 731 00:37:47,083 --> 00:37:49,203 but I think Zatoon has never wanted 732 00:37:49,283 --> 00:37:50,763 to take responsibility for it. 733 00:37:50,843 --> 00:37:55,003 And even in the planning, the run-up to the murder, that's very evident. 734 00:37:55,083 --> 00:37:57,003 Zatoon fought her corner. 735 00:37:57,083 --> 00:37:59,123 She claimed that she was being stitched up. 736 00:37:59,203 --> 00:38:00,643 She said that she was an innocent victim 737 00:38:00,723 --> 00:38:01,763 of an abusive husband. 738 00:38:03,443 --> 00:38:06,083 With her son Kashim backing up the story, 739 00:38:06,163 --> 00:38:08,363 was it possible that Zatoon could succeed 740 00:38:08,443 --> 00:38:11,763 in shifting all the blame onto her husband Gul? 741 00:38:13,483 --> 00:38:17,243 I represented Gul Nawaz in this murder trial 742 00:38:17,323 --> 00:38:21,643 that took place at Birmingham Crown Court. 743 00:38:21,723 --> 00:38:24,363 Very rarely did he let his guard down. 744 00:38:24,443 --> 00:38:26,683 It was obvious that there was something 745 00:38:26,763 --> 00:38:29,323 that he was keeping to himself. 746 00:38:29,403 --> 00:38:30,683 And I think that was probably 747 00:38:30,763 --> 00:38:34,123 {\an8}because he knew what had really happened. 748 00:38:34,203 --> 00:38:36,363 {\an8} So what had really happened at the house 749 00:38:36,443 --> 00:38:39,523 {\an8}in Bartley Green that night in January 2016? 750 00:38:39,603 --> 00:38:41,483 The prosecution's case was that this 751 00:38:41,563 --> 00:38:44,403 was entirely a set up, that the three people, 752 00:38:44,483 --> 00:38:48,323 mother, father, and teenage son had laid in wait. 753 00:38:48,403 --> 00:38:49,523 It was an ambush. 754 00:38:51,563 --> 00:38:54,043 {\an8}That when Tanveer came in, he was jumped. 755 00:38:56,323 --> 00:39:00,323 We do know that Tanveer was a young, fit, strong young man. 756 00:39:00,403 --> 00:39:02,123 He wouldn't have easily been overpowered. 757 00:39:02,203 --> 00:39:04,683 He would have certainly fought to defend himself. 758 00:39:04,763 --> 00:39:07,163 I strongly suspect that as he walked into the address, 759 00:39:07,243 --> 00:39:09,643 he was probably ambushed and he was probably strangled 760 00:39:09,723 --> 00:39:14,163 and quite quickly by the husband and by the son. 761 00:39:14,243 --> 00:39:15,723 It wasn't just the prosecution 762 00:39:15,803 --> 00:39:19,123 that cast doubt on Zatoon's version of events. 763 00:39:19,203 --> 00:39:23,203 When I cross examined her on behalf of Gul Nawaz, 764 00:39:23,283 --> 00:39:25,923 it became clear that she was telling lies. 765 00:39:28,723 --> 00:39:31,403 {\an8}This murder trial was a classic cutthroat, 766 00:39:31,483 --> 00:39:35,283 but not just between two people, but two people on one. 767 00:39:35,363 --> 00:39:37,283 Zatoon stood shoulder to shoulder 768 00:39:37,363 --> 00:39:40,723 with her 15-year-old son against the dad. 769 00:39:40,803 --> 00:39:43,083 They wanted to just blame each other. 770 00:39:44,643 --> 00:39:50,203 I felt sorry for Kashim because he was this young man, 771 00:39:50,283 --> 00:39:54,283 a child who'd been effectively recruited by his mother, 772 00:39:54,363 --> 00:39:56,603 and perhaps to a lesser extent by his father, 773 00:39:56,683 --> 00:39:59,443 to get involved in this killing. 774 00:39:59,523 --> 00:40:01,563 Here he was torn between his parents, 775 00:40:01,643 --> 00:40:03,323 having got himself into a situation 776 00:40:03,403 --> 00:40:05,603 because his mother recruited him. 777 00:40:05,683 --> 00:40:09,163 He'd been manipulated and told all sorts of lies 778 00:40:09,243 --> 00:40:11,043 in order to get him on board 779 00:40:11,123 --> 00:40:13,683 And there in court he found himself mute, 780 00:40:13,763 --> 00:40:16,203 he couldn't speak. What could he say? 781 00:40:16,283 --> 00:40:17,603 If he went into the witness box, 782 00:40:17,683 --> 00:40:19,483 he'd have to point the finger at his father, 783 00:40:19,563 --> 00:40:21,323 and he knew that wasn't true. 784 00:40:21,403 --> 00:40:23,403 So, he stayed where he sat in the dock 785 00:40:23,483 --> 00:40:27,043 and listened to his two parents tearing each other apart. 786 00:40:28,043 --> 00:40:29,763 On September 20th, 2016, 787 00:40:29,843 --> 00:40:33,003 twelve jurors at Birmingham Crown Court reached their verdict. 788 00:40:36,483 --> 00:40:38,963 Not surprisingly, 789 00:40:39,043 --> 00:40:43,323 the jury did not believe 790 00:40:43,403 --> 00:40:46,643 Zatoon Bibi's account of what had actually happened. 791 00:40:46,723 --> 00:40:51,883 She demonstrated herself to be an inveterate liar. 792 00:40:51,963 --> 00:40:53,683 Spurned mistress Zatoon Bibi, 793 00:40:53,763 --> 00:40:56,443 her husband Gul Nawaz, and their son Kashim 794 00:40:56,523 --> 00:40:59,563 were found guilty of murdering Tanveer Iqbal. 795 00:41:01,363 --> 00:41:03,443 It's certainly my view that she was the organizer. 796 00:41:03,523 --> 00:41:06,643 She was able to enlist the support of her family, 797 00:41:06,723 --> 00:41:10,363 {\an8}of her husband, her son, in order to lure 798 00:41:10,443 --> 00:41:15,283 {\an8}Tanveer to his death, then kill him in a coldblooded fashion. 799 00:41:15,363 --> 00:41:21,003 In a case like this where the murder was clearly planned, 800 00:41:21,083 --> 00:41:24,243 somebody was lured to their death, 801 00:41:24,323 --> 00:41:28,243 this was always going to be a sentence 802 00:41:28,323 --> 00:41:30,963 that was a very long sentence. 803 00:41:32,483 --> 00:41:34,723 Zatoon and Gul were jailed for life. 804 00:41:34,803 --> 00:41:38,963 Their son was told he would serve a minimum of just six years. 805 00:41:39,043 --> 00:41:41,203 There was a definite hierarchy within this group, 806 00:41:41,283 --> 00:41:43,563 and Zatoon Bibi was at the top of it. 807 00:41:43,643 --> 00:41:46,043 The sentence was determined by law for murder, 808 00:41:46,123 --> 00:41:48,683 it's life imprisonment with a minimum term. 809 00:41:48,763 --> 00:41:51,123 The judge decided that in Zatoon's case, 810 00:41:51,203 --> 00:41:54,243 he would give her a minimum of 27 years. 811 00:41:56,283 --> 00:41:59,123 What we had here with Zatoon Bibi was 812 00:41:59,203 --> 00:42:02,083 an individual that was extremely calculated. 813 00:42:02,163 --> 00:42:04,923 She was extremely manipulative in her approach 814 00:42:05,003 --> 00:42:07,843 to the planning and preparation of this murder. 815 00:42:08,603 --> 00:42:11,843 {\an8}She was certainly behind luring Tanveer 816 00:42:11,923 --> 00:42:15,163 {\an8}to his death on the Sunday night. 817 00:42:15,243 --> 00:42:17,163 During sentencing, the judge singled out 818 00:42:17,243 --> 00:42:20,203 Zatoon's callousness for special mention. 819 00:42:20,763 --> 00:42:24,163 His observation as a judge was that her selfishness 820 00:42:24,243 --> 00:42:27,923 and manipulative nature were truly breathtaking. 821 00:42:28,003 --> 00:42:31,083 {\an8}He said that one of the most appalling features of the case 822 00:42:31,163 --> 00:42:34,523 {\an8}was the fact that she had recruited her 15-year-old son. 823 00:42:34,603 --> 00:42:37,123 He said that was particularly awful. 824 00:42:37,203 --> 00:42:40,403 He was effectively taken in by his parents 825 00:42:40,483 --> 00:42:45,243 and influenced by them-- perhaps had no choice 826 00:42:45,323 --> 00:42:48,323 {\an8}but to go along with it. 827 00:42:48,403 --> 00:42:51,803 {\an8} Manipulative, vengeful, and murderous, 828 00:42:51,883 --> 00:42:54,923 Zatoon Bibi made her married lover pay the ultimate price 829 00:42:55,003 --> 00:42:56,683 for trying to dump her. 830 00:42:56,763 --> 00:42:59,043 It was always clear that Tanveer wouldn't leave his wife 831 00:42:59,123 --> 00:43:01,843 and his family set-up for Zatoon Bibi, 832 00:43:01,923 --> 00:43:05,883 so my view is that this was a crime based on her jealousy. 833 00:43:05,963 --> 00:43:09,123 If I can't have him, nobody's going to have him. 834 00:43:09,203 --> 00:43:12,203 That I think was ultimately the reason 835 00:43:12,283 --> 00:43:18,283 why she took that extreme step of having him killed. 836 00:43:20,643 --> 00:43:23,443 That was why she planned and executed this murder. 837 00:43:25,123 --> 00:43:27,443 She claimed that in fact she was the victim 838 00:43:27,523 --> 00:43:29,803 of a miscarriage of justice. 839 00:43:29,883 --> 00:43:31,763 She's never accepted that she was guilty. 840 00:43:32,483 --> 00:43:34,123 She doesn't feel remorse. 841 00:43:34,203 --> 00:43:36,883 She doesn't feel empathy for other people. 842 00:43:36,963 --> 00:43:39,443 The fact that she's got her family involved in this 843 00:43:39,523 --> 00:43:42,643 is incredibly telling about this individual. 844 00:43:43,603 --> 00:43:45,403 Tanveer Iqbal wasn't the only victim 845 00:43:45,483 --> 00:43:47,723 of Zatoon Bibi's crime. 846 00:43:47,803 --> 00:43:50,003 Not only has she murdered her lover, 847 00:43:50,083 --> 00:43:52,803 the person she's been having a relationship with for years, 848 00:43:52,883 --> 00:43:56,043 but this man is the father of some of her children. 849 00:43:56,123 --> 00:44:00,203 So, she has deprived some of her children of their father. 850 00:44:00,283 --> 00:44:03,283 And the very act of doing that, in itself, is 851 00:44:03,363 --> 00:44:05,523 such a huge, significant thing. 852 00:44:07,443 --> 00:44:09,283 She was able to mobilize her family members 853 00:44:09,363 --> 00:44:11,723 {\an8}in order to make it happen 854 00:44:11,803 --> 00:44:14,963 {\an8}and to try and bring everybody together to commit the gruesome act 855 00:44:15,043 --> 00:44:16,683 {\an8}of luring somebody to their death, 856 00:44:16,763 --> 00:44:19,243 killing them in cold blood, and then disposing of their body.