1 00:00:04,118 --> 00:00:08,394 [fans shouting] 2 00:00:08,394 --> 00:00:09,462 PHIL PARKINSON: Come on, boys. 3 00:00:09,462 --> 00:00:10,732 Relish it. We're playing at home. 4 00:00:10,732 --> 00:00:12,234 Okay, we spoke about yesterday 5 00:00:12,234 --> 00:00:14,973 about it being a special day for the club, okay, 6 00:00:14,973 --> 00:00:16,476 and how we pay tribute to that 7 00:00:16,476 --> 00:00:18,781 is by putting in a really good performance. 8 00:00:18,781 --> 00:00:21,787 [announcer speaking indistinctly] 9 00:00:21,787 --> 00:00:24,526 MARK GRIFFITHS: As both sides make their way 10 00:00:24,526 --> 00:00:27,532 onto the Racecourse pitch, Wrexham 11 00:00:27,532 --> 00:00:29,703 looking to try and make it... 12 00:00:29,703 --> 00:00:31,841 CROWD: Wrexham! Wrexham! 13 00:00:31,841 --> 00:00:35,447 MARK: This is a football town. It's a hardworking town. 14 00:00:35,447 --> 00:00:36,717 We've been through difficult times lately, 15 00:00:36,717 --> 00:00:39,255 but the mining is a massive part of that. 16 00:00:39,255 --> 00:00:40,558 [light music] 17 00:00:40,558 --> 00:00:43,129 We had the most horrific disaster. 18 00:00:43,129 --> 00:00:45,301 And I'm not saying most 19 00:00:45,301 --> 00:00:47,037 in a pejorative sense. 20 00:00:47,037 --> 00:00:48,874 Factually the worst mining disaster 21 00:00:48,874 --> 00:00:51,981 in the history of Britain happened in the 1930s 22 00:00:51,981 --> 00:00:54,385 just on the edge of Wrexham in the Gresford mine. 23 00:00:54,385 --> 00:00:56,155 And before things get underway here, 24 00:00:56,155 --> 00:00:58,126 there will be a minute's silence 25 00:00:58,126 --> 00:01:00,865 for the Gresford Colliery disaster. 26 00:01:00,865 --> 00:01:02,536 ♪ ♪ 27 00:01:02,536 --> 00:01:03,738 WAYNE JONES: It was well over 200 people 28 00:01:03,738 --> 00:01:04,806 that perished that day. 29 00:01:04,806 --> 00:01:07,344 The story of Wrexham supporters 30 00:01:07,344 --> 00:01:09,883 that swapped shifts so they could watch Wrexham, 31 00:01:09,883 --> 00:01:13,123 and then, sadly, the people that obviously replaced them 32 00:01:13,123 --> 00:01:16,029 passed away, so it's another example, I guess, 33 00:01:16,029 --> 00:01:18,366 of what the football club means to the people, 34 00:01:18,366 --> 00:01:19,736 that they would swap shifts 35 00:01:19,736 --> 00:01:21,607 to go do a night shift rather than a day shift 36 00:01:21,607 --> 00:01:23,176 just to be able to come and watch the football club 37 00:01:23,176 --> 00:01:24,713 going back all them years, you know? 38 00:01:24,713 --> 00:01:26,850 So, you know, the people from the outside now that will say 39 00:01:26,850 --> 00:01:28,821 the way they are, Hollywood FC and all that, 40 00:01:28,821 --> 00:01:31,392 they have no idea about us as a club. 41 00:01:31,392 --> 00:01:32,829 You know, they have no idea of the disaster 42 00:01:32,829 --> 00:01:34,465 that was Gresford Colliery that these people went through 43 00:01:34,465 --> 00:01:36,202 to be able to come and watch this football team. 44 00:01:48,193 --> 00:01:49,328 SCOTT GALLOWAY: A disaster like that 45 00:01:49,328 --> 00:01:50,899 in a town of that size 46 00:01:50,899 --> 00:01:53,904 can literally kind of be the starting gun 47 00:01:53,904 --> 00:01:56,977 for a slow demise to oblivion. 48 00:01:56,977 --> 00:01:58,447 There's the economic damage. 49 00:01:58,447 --> 00:02:00,651 There's the emotional trauma. 50 00:02:00,651 --> 00:02:05,027 It's not a foregone conclusion that a town like this survives. 51 00:02:05,027 --> 00:02:07,230 [birds chirping] 52 00:02:10,772 --> 00:02:12,441 SINGER: ♪ Don't forget where you came from ♪ 53 00:02:12,441 --> 00:02:15,147 ♪ Don't forget what you're made of ♪ 54 00:02:15,147 --> 00:02:17,852 ♪ The ones who were there ♪ 55 00:02:17,852 --> 00:02:21,292 ♪ When no one else would care ♪ 56 00:02:21,292 --> 00:02:24,532 ♪ Don't be afraid to cry now ♪ 57 00:02:24,532 --> 00:02:29,074 ♪ Even when the world comes crashing in ♪ 58 00:02:29,074 --> 00:02:30,645 ♪ ♪ 59 00:02:30,645 --> 00:02:35,120 ♪ Don't forget to sing when you win ♪ 60 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,763 ♪ ♪ 61 00:02:39,763 --> 00:02:44,271 ♪ Don't forget to sing when you win ♪ 62 00:02:49,917 --> 00:02:51,252 [birds chirping] 63 00:02:51,252 --> 00:02:52,588 ALAN JONES: Well, I've been before. 64 00:02:52,588 --> 00:02:54,792 I don't know if you remember the talk we did. 65 00:02:54,792 --> 00:02:58,467 It's about the coal mining industry in Wrexham, 66 00:02:58,467 --> 00:03:01,874 the Gresford Colliery in particular. 67 00:03:01,874 --> 00:03:03,677 Have we got any Wrexham supporters? 68 00:03:05,447 --> 00:03:07,986 Wow, that's brilliant. 69 00:03:07,986 --> 00:03:10,724 Anybody got the shirt? 70 00:03:10,724 --> 00:03:12,595 What's the numbers on the back? 71 00:03:15,267 --> 00:03:19,710 ALAN: So it's a real big remembrance of what went on. 72 00:03:19,710 --> 00:03:23,149 My name is Alan Jones. This is my wife, Margaret. 73 00:03:23,149 --> 00:03:26,757 I'm chair of the Friends of the Gresford Disaster Memorial. 74 00:03:26,757 --> 00:03:30,731 And Margaret is the secretary, sweeper-up, 75 00:03:30,731 --> 00:03:34,639 pot-washer, and everything else associated. 76 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,714 Now, that's a picture of the shaft when it was being dug. 77 00:03:38,714 --> 00:03:40,184 Can you imagine? 78 00:03:40,184 --> 00:03:41,820 It's nearly half a mile deep 79 00:03:41,820 --> 00:03:44,659 with tunnels running under this area. 80 00:03:44,659 --> 00:03:47,799 Very close connection to this school. 81 00:03:47,799 --> 00:03:52,374 Now, we come to September the 21st, 1934. 82 00:03:52,374 --> 00:03:55,715 If they'd have obeyed the new legislation, 83 00:03:55,715 --> 00:03:58,387 every coalface would've had fresh air. 84 00:03:58,387 --> 00:04:00,256 But because of the old legislation, 85 00:04:00,256 --> 00:04:04,265 the same air was going round every piece of the colliery, 86 00:04:04,265 --> 00:04:06,603 picking up dust, picking up gas, 87 00:04:06,603 --> 00:04:08,607 and then eventually, 88 00:04:08,607 --> 00:04:11,780 a spark or a flame ignited the gas. 89 00:04:11,780 --> 00:04:15,321 [explosion booms] 90 00:04:15,321 --> 00:04:16,523 NARRATOR: A terrific blast 91 00:04:16,523 --> 00:04:17,892 awoke the sleeping town of Wrexham. 92 00:04:17,892 --> 00:04:19,361 Explosion and fire at Gresford 93 00:04:19,361 --> 00:04:20,798 was the dread message. 94 00:05:00,043 --> 00:05:02,180 NARRATOR: While at the pithead, groups of miners, 95 00:05:02,180 --> 00:05:03,618 their wives and children, 96 00:05:03,618 --> 00:05:05,086 are waiting and fearing the worst. 97 00:05:05,086 --> 00:05:07,057 NARRATOR 2: Men from the surrounding pits ceased work 98 00:05:07,057 --> 00:05:09,428 and rushed to help in the task of rescue. 99 00:05:09,428 --> 00:05:10,932 Already three of these heroic men 100 00:05:10,932 --> 00:05:12,936 have lost their lives, and as they fall, 101 00:05:12,936 --> 00:05:15,574 overcome by the dread gas, others are waiting, undaunted, 102 00:05:15,574 --> 00:05:18,079 to take their places. 103 00:05:18,079 --> 00:05:23,456 ALAN: The 22nd, people waiting for news. 104 00:05:23,456 --> 00:05:26,161 All them people looking for their family. 105 00:05:26,161 --> 00:05:29,936 Their dads, their uncles, their sons. 106 00:05:29,936 --> 00:05:32,609 Men arriving, desperate to help, 107 00:05:32,609 --> 00:05:34,779 whatever they could, 108 00:05:34,779 --> 00:05:37,519 to do what they could on land or underground. 109 00:05:37,519 --> 00:05:40,424 At one time, there were over 200 men underground 110 00:05:40,424 --> 00:05:43,598 fighting the fires and trying to hold the roof up. 111 00:05:43,598 --> 00:05:45,768 But it was impossible. 112 00:05:50,277 --> 00:05:56,089 MARGARET JONES: There were 261 left without a dad. 113 00:05:56,089 --> 00:05:59,261 [church bells ringing] 114 00:05:59,261 --> 00:06:02,869 PRODUCER: And how old were you when your father passed away? 115 00:06:02,869 --> 00:06:05,407 Three year old. 116 00:06:05,407 --> 00:06:08,814 My father's name was William Crump. 117 00:06:08,814 --> 00:06:10,751 He was 38... 118 00:06:12,955 --> 00:06:17,631 When he was killed in the disaster. 119 00:06:17,631 --> 00:06:19,969 But I used to peek through the window, 120 00:06:19,969 --> 00:06:23,544 'cause you'd hear them going up the street in their clogs. 121 00:06:23,544 --> 00:06:26,281 I remember Mum, she used to scream, 122 00:06:26,281 --> 00:06:32,027 used to shout 'cause she was in so much pain. 123 00:06:32,027 --> 00:06:35,334 They decided to brick that part off. 124 00:06:35,334 --> 00:06:38,608 And my youngest brother, he went to work down the mine 125 00:06:38,608 --> 00:06:39,843 and he said, 126 00:06:39,843 --> 00:06:42,949 "I wanted to knock that wall down." 127 00:06:42,949 --> 00:06:47,257 Because somebody had said that the bodies could be recovered. 128 00:06:47,257 --> 00:06:49,595 There's no need for them to be down there. 129 00:06:49,595 --> 00:06:51,365 They could've brought them out. 130 00:06:51,365 --> 00:06:53,069 RUBY'S DAUGHTER: They wanted them to have a burial, Mum, 131 00:06:53,069 --> 00:06:54,138 didn't they? 132 00:06:54,138 --> 00:06:57,745 And--yeah, was-- that didn't happen. 133 00:06:57,745 --> 00:07:02,655 They should've tried a bit harder that they can 134 00:07:02,655 --> 00:07:04,793 get them out, you know. 135 00:07:04,793 --> 00:07:07,965 Why couldn't we have Dad out? 136 00:07:14,345 --> 00:07:15,748 BRYN LAW: The history is very significant 137 00:07:15,748 --> 00:07:17,585 in terms of the football because 138 00:07:17,585 --> 00:07:19,890 I think it's got to be important 139 00:07:19,890 --> 00:07:21,258 that there were so many mining communities 140 00:07:21,258 --> 00:07:24,332 around Wrexham that Wrexham took to football 141 00:07:24,332 --> 00:07:25,935 almost before anywhere else. 142 00:07:25,935 --> 00:07:28,774 That's why you have that 1864 on the badge. 143 00:07:29,275 --> 00:07:30,611 You know, that's very, very early on 144 00:07:30,611 --> 00:07:32,014 in the history of football. 145 00:07:32,014 --> 00:07:33,918 Because you've got guys who are working underground, 146 00:07:33,918 --> 00:07:36,590 the hardest jobs, the worst jobs, 147 00:07:36,590 --> 00:07:38,661 looking for some form of recreation 148 00:07:38,661 --> 00:07:40,798 when they get back above the surface. 149 00:07:40,798 --> 00:07:43,436 They like a pint, plenty of pubs around, 150 00:07:43,436 --> 00:07:45,040 but they want to do something as well. 151 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,745 And football took off massively in this part of the world. 152 00:07:47,745 --> 00:07:50,183 NARRATOR: Legend has it that many years ago, 153 00:07:50,183 --> 00:07:52,387 whenever a first-class football club in the North 154 00:07:52,387 --> 00:07:54,124 or Midlands wanted a player, 155 00:07:54,124 --> 00:07:56,663 the club manager just went to the nearest coal mine 156 00:07:56,663 --> 00:07:59,068 and shouted down the pit shaft. 157 00:07:59,803 --> 00:08:00,872 ROB McELHENNEY: Hi. MARGARET: Oh, hi. 158 00:08:00,872 --> 00:08:03,109 How are you? Rob McElhenney. 159 00:08:03,109 --> 00:08:04,077 This is my father, Bob. 160 00:08:04,077 --> 00:08:05,313 BOB: Well, hello. - Hey, Bob. Big Al. 161 00:08:05,313 --> 00:08:07,317 - Big Al. - I don't know why. 162 00:08:07,317 --> 00:08:08,452 I can see that. I get that. [Margaret laughs] 163 00:08:08,452 --> 00:08:09,589 ROB: So here we are. 164 00:08:09,589 --> 00:08:12,427 You've got mining connections. 165 00:08:12,427 --> 00:08:14,431 - We do. - Is that on your dad's side? 166 00:08:14,431 --> 00:08:17,137 Yes, it is. My great-- BOB: Yeah, yeah. 167 00:08:17,137 --> 00:08:18,941 Would it be your great-grandfather 168 00:08:18,941 --> 00:08:20,143 was a miner in-- 169 00:08:20,143 --> 00:08:22,180 My great-grandfather was, yeah. 170 00:08:22,180 --> 00:08:25,120 Right, they--first they started off in Donegal, 171 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,895 right, and then they came over to Milford. 172 00:08:28,895 --> 00:08:29,829 You know, Glasgow. ALAN: Yeah. 173 00:08:29,829 --> 00:08:31,666 [upbeat funky music] 174 00:08:31,666 --> 00:08:35,741 After the First World War, industry was left-- 175 00:08:35,741 --> 00:08:37,979 in this country, was just left to go. 176 00:08:37,979 --> 00:08:40,183 The shipyards were struggling, 177 00:08:40,183 --> 00:08:41,820 the steel industry was struggling, 178 00:08:41,820 --> 00:08:44,024 and it was vital for Wrexham 179 00:08:44,024 --> 00:08:46,295 that the coal industry kept going. 180 00:08:46,295 --> 00:08:48,099 It employed the vast majority 181 00:08:48,099 --> 00:08:51,238 or involved the vast majority of the town. 182 00:08:51,238 --> 00:08:53,142 Coal mining is what put the "Great" 183 00:08:53,142 --> 00:08:54,679 into Great Britain. 184 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,450 The coal that was raised drove the ships. 185 00:08:57,450 --> 00:08:59,121 It drove the railways. 186 00:08:59,121 --> 00:09:02,260 It was the only real employment in the area, 187 00:09:02,260 --> 00:09:06,002 and people were desperate, desperate for work. 188 00:09:06,002 --> 00:09:07,972 SCOTT: The great arbitrage of the 20th century 189 00:09:07,972 --> 00:09:10,009 that fueled the economy globally 190 00:09:10,009 --> 00:09:12,716 was this arbitrage between fossil fuels, 191 00:09:12,716 --> 00:09:14,285 turning them into energy. 192 00:09:14,285 --> 00:09:16,255 Pittsburgh where there was, you know, steel mining 193 00:09:16,255 --> 00:09:18,794 or Detroit building automobiles 194 00:09:18,794 --> 00:09:21,800 or the town of Wrexham and mining, 195 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,104 but it's come at a huge cost, 196 00:09:24,104 --> 00:09:27,177 and that cost is primarily to middle-class people 197 00:09:27,177 --> 00:09:30,183 who are more manual jobs who aren't living in a city. 198 00:09:30,183 --> 00:09:32,487 You know, there was pretty much one, 199 00:09:32,487 --> 00:09:34,926 you know, buyer of your labor. 200 00:09:34,926 --> 00:09:37,230 And so you weren't-- there wasn't a negotiation. 201 00:09:37,230 --> 00:09:38,700 It was a decision. 202 00:09:38,700 --> 00:09:41,238 Do you want to provide for your family or not? 203 00:09:41,238 --> 00:09:43,944 There's this tragic life before the disaster. 204 00:09:43,944 --> 00:09:46,348 This is hard living, to try and get through this. 205 00:09:46,348 --> 00:09:48,319 Oh, absolutely, absolutely. 206 00:09:48,319 --> 00:09:49,823 Another point. 207 00:09:49,823 --> 00:09:53,530 Um, they were paid on the Friday, a lot of the men, 208 00:09:53,530 --> 00:09:54,766 so when they went down the pit, 209 00:09:54,766 --> 00:09:56,302 their wages were in their pockets. 210 00:09:56,302 --> 00:09:57,505 BOB: Oh, jeez. 211 00:09:57,505 --> 00:10:01,045 Seven shillings and three-quarter pence. 212 00:10:01,045 --> 00:10:02,948 That was it. - That was per week. 213 00:10:02,948 --> 00:10:04,653 - That was per week. - Per week, yeah. 214 00:10:04,653 --> 00:10:07,625 [somber music] 215 00:10:07,625 --> 00:10:08,794 ♪ ♪ 216 00:10:08,794 --> 00:10:10,998 So they're still lying there now. 217 00:10:10,998 --> 00:10:12,301 So the families didn't even get that. 218 00:10:12,301 --> 00:10:14,639 ALAN: They didn't get zilch. 219 00:10:14,639 --> 00:10:19,381 And the wages of the miners that died 220 00:10:19,381 --> 00:10:21,753 actually stopped at... 221 00:10:21,753 --> 00:10:23,289 - 2:00 in the morning. - 2:00 in the morning. 222 00:10:23,289 --> 00:10:25,293 They didn't get paid for a full shift. 223 00:10:25,293 --> 00:10:26,596 The time of the explosion. 224 00:10:26,596 --> 00:10:30,103 The owners ruled with an iron rod. 225 00:10:30,103 --> 00:10:32,942 Health and safety was-- it didn't exist. 226 00:10:32,942 --> 00:10:35,380 It was get the coal out at all costs. 227 00:10:35,380 --> 00:10:37,050 ♪ ♪ 228 00:10:37,050 --> 00:10:38,921 ROB: So how long has the memorial been here? 229 00:10:38,921 --> 00:10:41,292 ALAN: Uh, since 1982. 230 00:10:41,292 --> 00:10:46,035 MARGARET: Which was 48 years in waiting. 231 00:10:46,035 --> 00:10:47,739 There wasn't a memorial put up straightaway 232 00:10:47,739 --> 00:10:50,042 after the disaster, the reason being 233 00:10:50,042 --> 00:10:52,648 the vested interests of the mine owners 234 00:10:52,648 --> 00:10:54,384 who wanted to avoid punishment. 235 00:10:54,384 --> 00:10:56,055 NARRATOR: Nationwide interest 236 00:10:56,055 --> 00:10:57,625 centers on Wrexham church hall, 237 00:10:57,625 --> 00:10:59,094 where the Ministry of Mines 238 00:10:59,094 --> 00:11:01,199 opens its inquiry into the Gresford pit disaster. 239 00:11:01,199 --> 00:11:03,068 Miners thrown out of work by the catastrophe 240 00:11:03,068 --> 00:11:04,939 eagerly queue up for places. 241 00:11:04,939 --> 00:11:07,545 Many of these men were among the 480 at the coalface 242 00:11:07,545 --> 00:11:10,884 when the explosion occurred, killing 264 men. 243 00:11:10,884 --> 00:11:14,024 This being Britain, the upper classes win. 244 00:11:14,024 --> 00:11:16,228 In the end, Bonsall and the mine company 245 00:11:16,228 --> 00:11:20,337 were convicted but only for inadequate recordkeeping. 246 00:11:20,337 --> 00:11:23,042 They were fined a pathetic ££140. 247 00:11:23,042 --> 00:11:24,913 BRYN: I think people still know 248 00:11:24,913 --> 00:11:26,816 that you've got to be very, very careful about those 249 00:11:26,816 --> 00:11:29,221 who come in and profess to say, "We're gonna-- 250 00:11:29,221 --> 00:11:31,993 you know, you're gonna help us do this." 251 00:11:31,993 --> 00:11:33,462 Rob and Ryan might have encountered it 252 00:11:33,462 --> 00:11:34,866 to an extent, you know? 253 00:11:34,866 --> 00:11:36,669 That was one of the hurdles that they had to overcome 254 00:11:36,669 --> 00:11:38,841 because of things like Gresford. 255 00:11:38,841 --> 00:11:41,680 I think it's very worthwhile that we remember 256 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:44,885 that one awfully significant event 257 00:11:44,885 --> 00:11:46,222 as a part in the bigger picture 258 00:11:46,222 --> 00:11:48,459 in terms of the history of the place. 259 00:11:49,194 --> 00:11:53,168 So what does the colliery wheel actually do? 260 00:11:53,168 --> 00:11:55,473 We'd have an engine house there, yeah, 261 00:11:55,473 --> 00:11:57,410 with a rope going up 262 00:11:57,410 --> 00:12:00,416 around the wheel and down the shaft. 263 00:12:00,416 --> 00:12:01,953 So there'd be a cage that would 264 00:12:01,953 --> 00:12:04,324 wind up and down with the men. 265 00:12:04,324 --> 00:12:07,030 So this is actually how the men traveled down... 266 00:12:07,030 --> 00:12:09,334 ALAN: Yeah, yeah. - Into the mine? 267 00:12:09,334 --> 00:12:11,873 ALAN: Yes. Half a mile. 268 00:12:11,873 --> 00:12:15,313 ROB: Half a mile into the ground? 269 00:12:15,313 --> 00:12:18,052 Okay, can you take us to the other wheels that were-- 270 00:12:18,052 --> 00:12:19,121 ALAN: To the sister wheel? 271 00:12:19,121 --> 00:12:20,624 ROB: To the sister wheel, please. 272 00:12:20,624 --> 00:12:23,295 ALAN: Yeah, absolutely, yeah. It's not very far up the road. 273 00:12:23,295 --> 00:12:27,370 The wheel was abandoned by the previous owners 274 00:12:27,370 --> 00:12:29,174 and buried it in the ground here. 275 00:12:29,174 --> 00:12:30,711 ROB: Ah. 276 00:12:30,711 --> 00:12:32,815 But you can see the size. 277 00:12:32,815 --> 00:12:34,018 ROB: Take a picture of it for Ryan. 278 00:12:34,018 --> 00:12:36,488 ALAN: Yeah. - He'll wanna see this. 279 00:12:36,488 --> 00:12:39,127 ♪ ♪ 280 00:12:39,127 --> 00:12:40,263 It was always in the plans 281 00:12:40,263 --> 00:12:42,434 when we were working with the local architects 282 00:12:42,434 --> 00:12:44,673 and engineers about the design for the new Kop... 283 00:12:44,673 --> 00:12:46,308 ALAN: Yeah. 284 00:12:46,308 --> 00:12:47,477 ROB: That we wanted to make sure that we were honoring 285 00:12:47,477 --> 00:12:49,983 the coal mining industry in any way that we could, 286 00:12:49,983 --> 00:12:52,487 so as you can see with the façade of the brick 287 00:12:52,487 --> 00:12:55,126 and then in the color. BOB: Mm-hmm. 288 00:12:55,126 --> 00:12:58,065 ROB: And then we wanted to find ways in which 289 00:12:58,065 --> 00:13:02,909 we could just be pretty overt with our respect, 290 00:13:02,909 --> 00:13:05,313 and I think this would be a good way, 291 00:13:05,313 --> 00:13:09,288 to take the sister wheel, to put it in a respectful place 292 00:13:09,288 --> 00:13:11,860 up near the stand for the new Kop. 293 00:13:11,860 --> 00:13:14,999 For this to go to the Racecourse 294 00:13:14,999 --> 00:13:17,905 and be mounted up would be the-- 295 00:13:17,905 --> 00:13:21,111 [chuckling] Wow. The utmost pleasure of my life. 296 00:13:21,111 --> 00:13:22,614 ROB: Mm. - Sorry, Mag. 297 00:13:22,614 --> 00:13:24,251 [laughter] 298 00:13:24,251 --> 00:13:26,488 But it would-- it's so important. 299 00:13:26,488 --> 00:13:29,160 Anybody in Wrexham with a mining connection, 300 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,564 and there's not many that haven't, 301 00:13:30,564 --> 00:13:32,167 they're gonna be so pleased. 302 00:13:32,167 --> 00:13:34,271 Well, thank you so much for showing us this. 303 00:13:34,271 --> 00:13:36,576 Hopefully, we can do it justice. 304 00:13:36,576 --> 00:13:42,588 ♪ ♪ 305 00:13:47,665 --> 00:13:50,002 ROB: All right, what were you saying when we got in the car? 306 00:13:50,002 --> 00:13:51,472 BOB: Yeah, so we were getting in the car 307 00:13:51,472 --> 00:13:52,542 and I'm just thinking-- 308 00:13:52,542 --> 00:13:55,413 ROB: Actually, if you hit that button here, 309 00:13:55,413 --> 00:13:57,752 it'll close that so it's not so loud. 310 00:13:57,752 --> 00:13:59,154 Right: BOB: This guy? 311 00:13:59,154 --> 00:14:00,289 ROB: Window open? Yeah. 312 00:14:02,795 --> 00:14:03,964 Yeah. 313 00:14:03,964 --> 00:14:05,634 ROB: We're running sound, though, still? 314 00:14:06,034 --> 00:14:08,405 ROB: So is picture running? 315 00:14:09,943 --> 00:14:11,078 ROB: Okay, great. 316 00:14:11,078 --> 00:14:14,384 So this is so great that 317 00:14:14,384 --> 00:14:18,326 we're dealing with fog issues on the lens. 318 00:14:18,326 --> 00:14:19,327 BOB: Right. 319 00:14:19,327 --> 00:14:21,733 'Cause it's indicative of how ridiculous 320 00:14:21,733 --> 00:14:23,068 modern life is 321 00:14:23,068 --> 00:14:25,907 compared to--compared to the way it used to be. 322 00:14:25,907 --> 00:14:27,477 You know, those guys would have to go to work 323 00:14:27,477 --> 00:14:29,247 in these same conditions 324 00:14:29,247 --> 00:14:32,086 and they wouldn't have to worry about defogging a lens 325 00:14:32,086 --> 00:14:35,226 to shoot their bullshit Hollywood documentary. 326 00:14:35,226 --> 00:14:37,297 They'd be going a half a mile into the ground. 327 00:14:37,297 --> 00:14:40,069 Into the ground, right, just gobbling them up. 328 00:14:41,138 --> 00:14:42,373 I was struck by the fact 329 00:14:42,373 --> 00:14:44,144 that they were going down like that, 330 00:14:44,144 --> 00:14:48,019 and I thought to myself, how unfortunate 331 00:14:48,019 --> 00:14:49,488 that I never had a chance to talk to my dad 332 00:14:49,488 --> 00:14:52,226 about going down into those ships, those cargo ships. 333 00:14:52,226 --> 00:14:54,532 I think, as a longshoreman, that's what they did, right? 334 00:14:54,532 --> 00:14:55,901 Back in his earlier days, 335 00:14:55,901 --> 00:14:59,041 they would literally go down into the bowels of these ships 336 00:14:59,041 --> 00:15:00,744 and get all the stuff out of there. 337 00:15:00,744 --> 00:15:04,250 And I never took that into consideration as a kid. 338 00:15:04,250 --> 00:15:05,620 I just figured, well, he went to work, 339 00:15:05,620 --> 00:15:07,558 he brought his check home, and we--you know, 340 00:15:07,558 --> 00:15:08,660 we went off to school. 341 00:15:08,660 --> 00:15:11,398 But, you know, the symbolism of the wheel, 342 00:15:11,398 --> 00:15:14,739 I just hope that it's just a symbol of what people were. 343 00:15:14,739 --> 00:15:17,177 You know, these are the people whose shoulders, 344 00:15:17,177 --> 00:15:18,981 you know, that we're standing on. 345 00:15:19,883 --> 00:15:22,621 ROB: It's just a reminder that, you know, 346 00:15:22,621 --> 00:15:25,226 everybody can find a connection 347 00:15:25,226 --> 00:15:27,531 to what that means in their community 348 00:15:27,531 --> 00:15:29,068 or in their life. 349 00:15:29,068 --> 00:15:31,404 My father was talking about Vietnam, 350 00:15:31,404 --> 00:15:33,777 and he was saying how everybody knew somebody 351 00:15:33,777 --> 00:15:35,113 who was killed in Vietnam. 352 00:15:35,113 --> 00:15:36,415 Certainly in our community. 353 00:15:36,415 --> 00:15:38,219 There's something quite unifying about that. 354 00:15:38,219 --> 00:15:40,925 Even though one is a vocation, one is war, 355 00:15:40,925 --> 00:15:42,327 it was a very specific kind of person 356 00:15:42,327 --> 00:15:44,063 that was killed in that war, 357 00:15:44,063 --> 00:15:46,101 and it was a very specific kind of person 358 00:15:46,101 --> 00:15:47,538 that was killed in that mine. 359 00:15:47,538 --> 00:15:49,976 And I think almost everybody across the world 360 00:15:49,976 --> 00:15:53,116 can identify with people like that. 361 00:15:53,116 --> 00:15:55,186 BOB: The people were waiting, they're raising their family, 362 00:15:55,186 --> 00:15:56,723 and now all of a sudden, 363 00:15:56,723 --> 00:15:59,261 you know, your husband's not coming home tonight. 364 00:15:59,261 --> 00:16:01,132 And yet they go on, right? ROB: Yeah. 365 00:16:01,132 --> 00:16:03,202 Life goes on. 366 00:16:03,202 --> 00:16:06,008 ROB: No other choice. - Nope. Nope. 367 00:16:06,008 --> 00:16:11,218 ♪ ♪ 368 00:16:15,594 --> 00:16:18,734 BRYN: So we get further away from it, 369 00:16:18,734 --> 00:16:21,271 but the connection still remains strong. 370 00:16:23,175 --> 00:16:24,846 But the football club took that up, 371 00:16:24,846 --> 00:16:27,450 and it's largely driven in many ways by the football club, 372 00:16:27,450 --> 00:16:30,757 that this has become a big part 373 00:16:30,757 --> 00:16:33,462 of what's happened in Wrexham's recent history, 374 00:16:33,462 --> 00:16:36,101 to be honest, and the football club should take credit, 375 00:16:36,101 --> 00:16:38,539 I think, for reminding people 376 00:16:38,539 --> 00:16:41,278 about what's gone on in this community 377 00:16:41,278 --> 00:16:42,949 beyond the football club. 378 00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:44,283 And if they wonder why 379 00:16:44,283 --> 00:16:46,488 people have fought so hard for their football club, 380 00:16:46,488 --> 00:16:50,196 then perhaps these kinds of things are the reason for that. 381 00:16:50,196 --> 00:16:52,066 [band playing "Yma o Hyd"] 382 00:16:52,066 --> 00:16:53,335 MARK: There's a folk song 383 00:16:53,335 --> 00:16:55,607 about 40 years old and written in Welsh 384 00:16:55,607 --> 00:16:58,580 that was written originally as a political song 385 00:16:58,580 --> 00:17:00,884 referring to our relationship with England 386 00:17:00,884 --> 00:17:03,022 that's been adopted by the football fans 387 00:17:03,022 --> 00:17:06,027 in some Welsh towns, including here in Wrexham. 388 00:17:06,027 --> 00:17:07,463 It has a lot of resonance for us 389 00:17:07,463 --> 00:17:09,067 because of what we've been through, 390 00:17:09,067 --> 00:17:10,871 like the Gresford disaster. 391 00:17:10,871 --> 00:17:13,175 It's called "Yma o Hyd," 392 00:17:13,175 --> 00:17:17,084 which translates as "We're Still Here." 393 00:17:17,084 --> 00:17:18,653 Because we are. 394 00:17:18,653 --> 00:17:21,392 ♪ ♪ 395 00:17:21,392 --> 00:17:23,362 There's pride in it, and even though the mines 396 00:17:23,362 --> 00:17:25,032 were shut down in the '80s, 397 00:17:25,032 --> 00:17:27,270 I don't think you change 398 00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:30,109 from your character that quickly. 399 00:17:30,109 --> 00:17:33,215 ♪ ♪ 400 00:17:33,215 --> 00:17:36,823 [applause] 401 00:17:36,823 --> 00:17:40,329 All those things are entwined in terms of the DNA, 402 00:17:40,329 --> 00:17:42,835 as we might now describe it, of Wrexham. 403 00:17:43,737 --> 00:17:46,174 That industrial past is hugely significant, 404 00:17:46,174 --> 00:17:49,447 and football's also hugely significant. 405 00:17:50,182 --> 00:17:52,688 The idea that miners are trading shifts 406 00:17:52,688 --> 00:17:54,925 so they could go out and watch a match 407 00:17:54,925 --> 00:17:57,565 before going back down speaks volumes 408 00:17:57,565 --> 00:18:00,570 to how ingrained and how much of a part of the fabric 409 00:18:00,570 --> 00:18:03,075 of culture in Wrexham this club is. 410 00:18:03,075 --> 00:18:04,579 It's nothing to be trifled with. 411 00:18:04,579 --> 00:18:05,814 That's for sure. 412 00:18:05,814 --> 00:18:08,620 ROB: The disaster happened 100 years ago, 413 00:18:08,620 --> 00:18:11,492 but those people are still here. 414 00:18:11,492 --> 00:18:12,528 Miners, 415 00:18:12,528 --> 00:18:13,763 porters, 416 00:18:13,763 --> 00:18:15,433 painters, 417 00:18:15,433 --> 00:18:17,537 bartenders, teachers-- 418 00:18:17,537 --> 00:18:19,975 the people who wake up every day 419 00:18:19,975 --> 00:18:22,313 and put in an honest shift. 420 00:18:22,313 --> 00:18:24,552 [light music] 421 00:18:24,552 --> 00:18:26,523 And every Saturday, they want to come to the Racecourse 422 00:18:26,523 --> 00:18:30,195 and feel victorious, so every win, every goal 423 00:18:30,195 --> 00:18:32,501 is a victory for them. 424 00:18:32,501 --> 00:18:35,974 And if we don't do everything on our end 425 00:18:35,974 --> 00:18:40,182 for them to feel that, then shame on us, 426 00:18:40,182 --> 00:18:41,719 because they deserve it. 427 00:18:41,719 --> 00:18:46,662 Because Wrexham is the town that's still here. 428 00:18:50,402 --> 00:18:52,307 [whistle blows] 429 00:18:52,307 --> 00:18:54,010 [crowd cheering] 430 00:18:54,010 --> 00:18:57,150 ["Yma o Hyd"] 431 00:18:57,150 --> 00:18:58,920 ♪ ♪ 432 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,255 MARK: The corner is whipped in. 433 00:19:00,255 --> 00:19:01,525 SINGER: [singing in Welsh] 434 00:19:01,525 --> 00:19:03,897 MARK: Oh, it's a chance! It's a goal! 435 00:19:03,897 --> 00:19:10,910 ♪ ♪ 436 00:19:10,910 --> 00:19:12,213 Jones! 437 00:19:12,213 --> 00:19:14,251 Oh, it's a ricochet in! 438 00:19:14,251 --> 00:19:17,658 [crowd yelling] 439 00:19:17,658 --> 00:19:23,870 ♪ ♪ 440 00:19:23,870 --> 00:19:26,074 MARK: Oh, it's a cross this time towards Mullin! 441 00:19:26,074 --> 00:19:27,978 [crowd cheering] 442 00:19:27,978 --> 00:19:29,080 MARK: Corner comes in again. 443 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,184 Hayden! Oh! 444 00:19:31,184 --> 00:19:35,026 ♪ ♪ 445 00:19:35,026 --> 00:19:36,194 It's Lee! Cuts it back! 446 00:19:36,194 --> 00:19:38,098 Dalby! 447 00:19:38,098 --> 00:19:45,312 ♪ ♪ 448 00:19:53,395 --> 00:19:56,502 [all singing in Welsh] 449 00:20:12,635 --> 00:20:15,673 MARK: [speaking indistinctly] 450 00:20:19,381 --> 00:20:21,519 MARK: Oh, what a pass that is! 451 00:21:25,748 --> 00:21:27,416 [child giggles, seagull cries]