1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,176 --> 00:00:11,079 [electronic music] 4 00:00:11,179 --> 00:00:15,383 ♪ MTV 5 00:00:34,835 --> 00:00:36,003 [VCR clicks] 6 00:00:36,104 --> 00:00:39,006 [soft music] 7 00:00:39,107 --> 00:00:42,976 8 00:00:43,077 --> 00:00:46,147 We shouldn't concentrate too much on superstar, you know? 9 00:00:46,247 --> 00:00:48,349 10 00:00:48,449 --> 00:00:50,418 It's a very dangerous thing to talk about. 11 00:00:50,518 --> 00:00:52,520 12 00:00:52,620 --> 00:00:54,755 I know--I know a lot of superstars... 13 00:00:54,855 --> 00:00:56,890 - Yeah. - And I look back 14 00:00:56,990 --> 00:00:59,127 and I see--I don't see them now, you know? 15 00:00:59,227 --> 00:01:00,928 So the same could happen with us. 16 00:01:03,597 --> 00:01:05,833 ♪ Girl, you know it, girl, you know it ♪ 17 00:01:05,933 --> 00:01:08,035 ♪ Girl, you know it's true 18 00:01:08,136 --> 00:01:10,704 [dramatic music] 19 00:01:13,006 --> 00:01:15,676 [cheers and applause] 20 00:01:15,776 --> 00:01:18,179 Milli Vanilli, the striking European duo, 21 00:01:18,279 --> 00:01:20,581 has made it big in America. 22 00:01:20,681 --> 00:01:23,717 First album went six times platinum in 1989. 23 00:01:23,817 --> 00:01:25,753 It's quite a weird story. 24 00:01:25,853 --> 00:01:27,221 One minute, Milli Vanilli were there... 25 00:01:27,321 --> 00:01:28,556 - Milli Vanilli. - Milli Vanilli. 26 00:01:28,656 --> 00:01:29,590 - Milli-- - Milli-- 27 00:01:29,690 --> 00:01:31,659 - Milli-- - Vanilli! 28 00:01:31,759 --> 00:01:33,127 And the next minute, they weren't. 29 00:01:33,227 --> 00:01:34,295 [laughs] 30 00:01:34,395 --> 00:01:38,632 31 00:01:38,732 --> 00:01:41,068 New weasel boys of the record world. 32 00:01:41,169 --> 00:01:44,872 Everybody participated, but they were the scapegoats. 33 00:01:44,972 --> 00:01:48,442 Record companies are oddly silent on the whole issue. 34 00:01:48,542 --> 00:01:50,811 People don't understand 35 00:01:50,911 --> 00:01:53,847 the machine that is underneath a pop act. 36 00:01:53,947 --> 00:01:56,950 We want to say thank you to our producer. 37 00:01:57,050 --> 00:01:58,852 The evil genius, I guess we could call him. 38 00:01:58,952 --> 00:02:01,355 If it wasn't for him, this would not even take place. 39 00:02:01,455 --> 00:02:02,756 You get something, 40 00:02:02,856 --> 00:02:04,792 but for that, you make a pact with the devil. 41 00:02:04,892 --> 00:02:09,263 42 00:02:09,363 --> 00:02:10,298 Imagine you have everything... 43 00:02:10,398 --> 00:02:12,400 [crowd screaming] 44 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:15,068 The fame, the fortune. 45 00:02:15,169 --> 00:02:16,837 They were in a dream. 46 00:02:16,937 --> 00:02:18,806 And suddenly, everybody turns against you 47 00:02:18,906 --> 00:02:20,674 and you have nothing. Overnight. 48 00:02:20,774 --> 00:02:22,142 [indistinct shouting] 49 00:02:22,243 --> 00:02:24,312 How do you handle that? 50 00:02:24,412 --> 00:02:26,614 It cost them everything. 51 00:02:26,714 --> 00:02:29,149 There is not another story like this 52 00:02:29,250 --> 00:02:30,818 in pop music history. 53 00:02:30,918 --> 00:02:37,891 54 00:03:32,780 --> 00:03:34,748 It's been a while. 55 00:03:34,848 --> 00:03:36,884 Oh! 56 00:03:37,651 --> 00:03:40,888 Yeah, man, we were young and fresh, man. 57 00:03:40,988 --> 00:03:45,626 That's a normal tank top but I think he just pulled on it. 58 00:03:45,726 --> 00:03:48,562 You know, I mean, we were fashion forward. 59 00:03:48,662 --> 00:03:51,965 [laughs] 60 00:03:53,967 --> 00:03:56,604 That was a big show in Germany. 61 00:03:56,704 --> 00:03:58,906 Yeah, that was a cool vibe. 62 00:04:02,410 --> 00:04:03,877 Hmm. 63 00:04:05,212 --> 00:04:08,349 You know, Rob Pilatus doesn't look right in this photo. 64 00:04:08,449 --> 00:04:11,519 I can see the decline. 65 00:04:11,619 --> 00:04:15,222 'Cause that's not what Rob looked like 66 00:04:15,323 --> 00:04:17,725 or was supposed to look like. 67 00:04:17,825 --> 00:04:20,661 He was extremely strong, 68 00:04:20,761 --> 00:04:26,667 but you can tell that life took a toll on him. 69 00:04:29,337 --> 00:04:32,239 [soft music] 70 00:04:32,340 --> 00:04:35,008 71 00:04:35,108 --> 00:04:39,146 Becoming friends was inevitable. 72 00:04:39,246 --> 00:04:41,882 73 00:04:41,982 --> 00:04:43,651 I grew up in Paris. 74 00:04:43,751 --> 00:04:45,719 75 00:04:45,819 --> 00:04:52,526 When I turned 18, I went to Munich, Germany, 76 00:04:52,626 --> 00:04:54,595 ran out of money, 77 00:04:54,695 --> 00:04:59,933 ended up being homeless for a couple weeks. 78 00:05:00,033 --> 00:05:03,837 It was cold so I had to sleep in the train station, 79 00:05:03,937 --> 00:05:06,474 but I was able to get some jobs 80 00:05:06,574 --> 00:05:09,343 teaching classes with dance school, 81 00:05:09,443 --> 00:05:11,679 'cause that was my background in Paris. 82 00:05:13,146 --> 00:05:16,750 And then one day, I went to a party in Munich 83 00:05:16,850 --> 00:05:19,319 and there he was, Mr. Rob Pilatus. 84 00:05:19,420 --> 00:05:21,188 [hip-hop music] 85 00:05:21,288 --> 00:05:22,723 He was a break-dancer. 86 00:05:22,823 --> 00:05:24,992 He was onstage doing the helicopter. 87 00:05:25,092 --> 00:05:29,029 88 00:05:29,129 --> 00:05:30,330 At the end, 89 00:05:30,431 --> 00:05:32,400 when everybody gave him his props and everything, 90 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:34,067 he saw me and he was like, 91 00:05:34,167 --> 00:05:36,737 "Who the hell are you? That's my turf!" 92 00:05:36,837 --> 00:05:38,338 Because there were not many Black people 93 00:05:38,439 --> 00:05:39,673 in Munich at the time. 94 00:05:39,773 --> 00:05:41,942 [soft hip-hop music] 95 00:05:42,042 --> 00:05:44,578 Rob and I were the only dark-skinned people. 96 00:05:44,678 --> 00:05:47,014 There were none. 97 00:05:47,114 --> 00:05:49,983 Rob was older than me by two years. 98 00:05:50,083 --> 00:05:51,485 He had an infectious laugh-- 99 00:05:51,585 --> 00:05:52,820 [imitating laugh] 100 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,489 Like, really loud, you know? 101 00:05:55,589 --> 00:05:56,990 I was socially awkward. 102 00:05:57,090 --> 00:06:01,061 You know, I was shy and I was not fluent in German. 103 00:06:01,161 --> 00:06:03,631 It was like big brother, little brother. 104 00:06:03,731 --> 00:06:05,566 105 00:06:05,666 --> 00:06:08,268 He became my best friend. 106 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:10,838 But I felt like there was something inside of him 107 00:06:10,938 --> 00:06:13,474 that was--that was missing. 108 00:06:13,574 --> 00:06:16,477 [soft music] 109 00:07:16,604 --> 00:07:20,040 Every time we talked about that period of his life, 110 00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:22,676 it was kind of like taboo, 111 00:07:22,776 --> 00:07:26,446 but I understood his pain. 112 00:07:26,547 --> 00:07:30,083 Growing up, my family was so dysfunctional. 113 00:07:30,183 --> 00:07:33,721 It was an abusive environment, 114 00:07:33,821 --> 00:07:37,457 and I ran away. 115 00:07:37,558 --> 00:07:39,793 So, just like me, 116 00:07:39,893 --> 00:07:41,529 he was looking for a family. 117 00:07:41,629 --> 00:07:44,665 [soft determined music] 118 00:07:44,765 --> 00:07:49,469 We moved in together in an attic of a friend of his. 119 00:07:49,570 --> 00:07:53,574 Rob would take the bed, I would take the sofa. 120 00:07:53,674 --> 00:07:56,476 But there was, like, a stereo system, 121 00:07:56,577 --> 00:07:58,345 and that thing was on all day. 122 00:07:58,445 --> 00:08:01,014 [grungy hip-hop music] 123 00:08:01,114 --> 00:08:03,751 Music always pulled us together. 124 00:08:03,851 --> 00:08:05,485 125 00:08:05,586 --> 00:08:07,487 We both liked dancing, 126 00:08:07,588 --> 00:08:10,057 we were very social people, 127 00:08:10,157 --> 00:08:12,425 so we started throwing parties together. 128 00:08:12,526 --> 00:08:14,027 [upbeat music] 129 00:08:14,127 --> 00:08:15,462 And they were packed. 130 00:08:15,563 --> 00:08:17,364 The girls were beautiful. 131 00:08:17,464 --> 00:08:18,966 You know, we had a DJ, 132 00:08:19,066 --> 00:08:21,301 and we brought the vibe. 133 00:08:21,401 --> 00:08:22,770 134 00:08:22,870 --> 00:08:24,772 You know, a circle would be happening. 135 00:08:24,872 --> 00:08:26,807 Rob doing break dancing, and when he was done, 136 00:08:26,907 --> 00:08:28,876 I would come in and I would pop, lock, 137 00:08:28,976 --> 00:08:30,611 bam, bam, bam! 138 00:08:30,711 --> 00:08:33,213 And it brought a lot of attention. 139 00:08:33,313 --> 00:08:38,185 So we started doing shows in this club, Piantz. 140 00:08:38,285 --> 00:08:40,654 We loved to entertain people, like, 141 00:08:40,754 --> 00:08:43,323 make people like, "Aw, yeah!" 142 00:08:43,423 --> 00:08:46,059 We loved that energy, that roar, 143 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:48,862 and we wanna do more of this. 144 00:08:48,962 --> 00:08:50,898 And the dream was to do what we did in the club, 145 00:08:50,998 --> 00:08:54,267 sing, perform, live the life, 146 00:08:54,367 --> 00:08:58,405 to become the biggest pop stars in the world! 147 00:08:58,505 --> 00:09:00,540 ♪ Hot girl, hot girl 148 00:09:00,641 --> 00:09:02,175 ♪ I'm satisfaction, baby 149 00:09:02,275 --> 00:09:04,111 ♪ Hot girl, hot girl 150 00:09:04,211 --> 00:09:06,880 We started dancing for this TV show. 151 00:09:06,980 --> 00:09:08,281 ♪ Hot girl 152 00:09:08,381 --> 00:09:12,820 We danced behind pop stars of the '80s. 153 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,888 We ended up modeling as well. 154 00:09:14,988 --> 00:09:16,423 155 00:09:16,523 --> 00:09:18,592 We did some catalog. 156 00:09:18,692 --> 00:09:21,428 We were making a lot of noise in Munich at that time, 157 00:09:21,528 --> 00:09:24,564 but it was like, how do we get to the next level? 158 00:09:24,665 --> 00:09:26,366 [upbeat curious music] 159 00:09:26,466 --> 00:09:30,037 In order to become pop stars, we had to have the look, 160 00:09:30,137 --> 00:09:34,041 so we had to study what makes a superstar. 161 00:09:34,141 --> 00:09:36,777 And one thing we noticed was the hair. 162 00:09:36,877 --> 00:09:38,078 163 00:09:38,178 --> 00:09:39,780 I know Elvis' hair. 164 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,381 I know Bob Marley's hair. 165 00:09:41,481 --> 00:09:44,217 Marilyn Monroe. Michael Jackson. 166 00:09:44,317 --> 00:09:47,054 You could put, like, a shadow, and you knew who that was. 167 00:09:47,154 --> 00:09:49,823 We were like, "Hell yeah, we're doing this." 168 00:09:49,923 --> 00:09:50,991 And the hair came... 169 00:09:51,091 --> 00:09:54,027 [snaps] Like that. 170 00:09:54,127 --> 00:09:56,864 Hoo! The reactions were amazing. 171 00:09:56,964 --> 00:09:58,431 Every time we went to the clubs, 172 00:09:58,531 --> 00:10:01,468 girls loved the hair, loved the clothing-- 173 00:10:01,568 --> 00:10:02,870 they loved Rob and Fab. 174 00:10:02,970 --> 00:10:05,205 ♪ Go to the dance floor, dansez ♪ 175 00:10:05,305 --> 00:10:08,008 ♪ Voulez vous, dansez 176 00:10:08,108 --> 00:10:09,843 We put a band together, 177 00:10:09,943 --> 00:10:11,945 Empire Bizarre... 178 00:10:12,045 --> 00:10:13,847 ♪ Hey 179 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:15,749 And we played a few gigs. 180 00:10:15,849 --> 00:10:17,617 We gave tapes to people. 181 00:10:17,718 --> 00:10:19,086 We knew we were gonna be big. 182 00:10:19,186 --> 00:10:20,320 ♪ Dansez 183 00:10:43,911 --> 00:10:45,645 Since we were spreading the word 184 00:10:45,746 --> 00:10:47,915 of us getting into the music industry, 185 00:10:48,015 --> 00:10:50,483 we were starting to get approached by people. 186 00:10:50,583 --> 00:10:52,185 [soft music] 187 00:10:52,285 --> 00:10:55,588 So one day, this guy came to Rob and said, "Hey, you know, 188 00:10:55,689 --> 00:10:56,990 we're gonna connect you with Frank Farian." 189 00:10:57,090 --> 00:10:59,292 190 00:10:59,392 --> 00:11:01,862 Rob played cool to the dude, 191 00:11:01,962 --> 00:11:04,231 but to me, he was like, "Oh, my God! 192 00:11:04,331 --> 00:11:07,267 Oh, Frank Farian! You know this?" I didn't know. 193 00:11:07,367 --> 00:11:09,069 194 00:11:09,169 --> 00:11:11,438 Rob told me, "Hey, Frank Farian, 195 00:11:11,538 --> 00:11:12,973 he did Boney M." 196 00:11:13,073 --> 00:11:16,076 I was like, "Oh, wow, that's--that's big" 197 00:11:16,176 --> 00:11:19,146 because Boney M., obviously, was a huge group. 198 00:11:19,246 --> 00:11:22,049 [Boney M's "Rasputin" playing] 199 00:11:22,149 --> 00:11:26,720 200 00:11:26,820 --> 00:11:30,290 ♪ There lived a certain man in Russia long ago ♪ 201 00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:34,762 ♪ He was big and strong, in his eyes a flaming glow ♪ 202 00:11:34,862 --> 00:11:38,198 Boney M. were a big hit disco group in the '70s... 203 00:11:38,298 --> 00:11:39,499 Boney M.! [cheers and applause] 204 00:11:39,599 --> 00:11:42,135 - And they were huge worldwide. - Huge! 205 00:11:42,235 --> 00:11:45,906 ♪ He could preach the Bible like a preacher ♪ 206 00:11:46,006 --> 00:11:47,507 ♪ Full of ecstasy 207 00:11:47,607 --> 00:11:49,276 Boney M. sold 80 million records. 208 00:11:49,376 --> 00:11:51,311 They had a number of number one hits. 209 00:11:51,411 --> 00:11:52,846 "Rivers of Babylon." 210 00:11:52,946 --> 00:11:54,347 - "Daddy Cool." - "Sunny." 211 00:11:54,447 --> 00:11:55,682 I love the song "Ma Baker." 212 00:11:55,783 --> 00:11:57,217 Ra, ra, Rasputin. 213 00:11:57,317 --> 00:12:00,854 ♪ Ra, ra, Rasputin, lover of the Russian queen ♪ 214 00:12:00,954 --> 00:12:03,556 A bananas song and it's about Rasputin. 215 00:12:03,656 --> 00:12:06,526 Mysterious figure in czarist Russia. 216 00:12:06,626 --> 00:12:08,128 When you watch video of Boney M. 217 00:12:08,228 --> 00:12:09,797 and you see Bobby Farrell, you're like, 218 00:12:09,897 --> 00:12:11,999 "Wow, that dude is awesome." 219 00:12:12,099 --> 00:12:14,067 It was on the radio, at parties. 220 00:12:14,167 --> 00:12:16,336 Boney M. made music that you could dance to 221 00:12:16,436 --> 00:12:19,472 and get drunk to and have fun. [laughs] 222 00:12:19,572 --> 00:12:23,243 But how did you four people get together to form Boney M.? 223 00:12:23,343 --> 00:12:27,815 Well, it all came about from our producer Frank Farian. 224 00:12:27,915 --> 00:12:30,884 [soft tense music] 225 00:12:30,984 --> 00:12:33,620 If you work with Frank Farian, 226 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,389 that's a high level guy. 227 00:12:36,489 --> 00:12:40,593 We realized that this could be the one we've been waiting for, 228 00:12:40,693 --> 00:12:42,462 so we went to Frankfurt. 229 00:12:42,562 --> 00:12:46,199 230 00:12:46,299 --> 00:12:50,403 Frank Farian's compound was huge. 231 00:12:50,503 --> 00:12:52,772 And when they opened the door, 232 00:12:52,873 --> 00:12:57,010 we were greeted by all those gold records on the wall, 233 00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:59,312 and it was amazing. 234 00:12:59,412 --> 00:13:02,049 It was the kind of stuff that you saw with Quincy Jones. 235 00:13:02,149 --> 00:13:04,017 236 00:13:04,117 --> 00:13:09,256 100 tracks, Neve console, microphones. 237 00:13:09,356 --> 00:13:12,259 It was incredible! 238 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:16,329 Frank and his secretary, Ingrid Segieth, 239 00:13:16,429 --> 00:13:18,498 they said, "We're working on a project 240 00:13:18,598 --> 00:13:20,667 and we're thinking that you could be good for it," 241 00:13:20,767 --> 00:13:22,335 if we were interested. 242 00:13:22,435 --> 00:13:25,538 Hell, yeah, we were interested. 243 00:13:25,638 --> 00:13:29,076 Ingrid brought in the recording contract, 244 00:13:29,176 --> 00:13:31,979 and we never really attempted to read it. 245 00:13:32,079 --> 00:13:36,716 We were not trying to say no to this powerful producer. 246 00:13:36,816 --> 00:13:40,787 Also, we would get, like, 1,500 deutschmark each, 247 00:13:40,888 --> 00:13:45,025 and we were like, "Oh, hell yeah. Where? OK." 248 00:13:45,125 --> 00:13:48,061 [suspicious music] 249 00:13:48,161 --> 00:13:51,164 When we signed that contract, 250 00:13:51,264 --> 00:13:52,665 we toasted. 251 00:13:52,765 --> 00:13:54,968 252 00:13:55,068 --> 00:13:56,836 We were, like, breaking bread. 253 00:13:56,937 --> 00:13:58,872 254 00:13:58,972 --> 00:14:02,910 But then Frank leaned over to Rob and told him, 255 00:14:03,010 --> 00:14:05,845 "Don't fuck with me. 256 00:14:05,946 --> 00:14:07,780 Don't ever fuck with me." 257 00:14:07,881 --> 00:14:10,717 [soft curious music] 258 00:14:10,817 --> 00:14:15,122 259 00:14:15,222 --> 00:14:19,559 Several months went by. 260 00:14:19,659 --> 00:14:24,197 They never gave us any information. 261 00:14:24,297 --> 00:14:25,532 That was driving us crazy. 262 00:14:25,632 --> 00:14:27,467 Like, why don't they tell us, like, 263 00:14:27,567 --> 00:14:30,938 a date where we can come to do the vocals, 264 00:14:31,038 --> 00:14:33,974 or like, when do we get started? 265 00:14:34,074 --> 00:14:37,010 266 00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:39,612 Finally, Ingrid called. 267 00:14:39,712 --> 00:14:42,349 "Come to studio. It's gonna be good." 268 00:14:42,449 --> 00:14:45,352 Oh, man, we were pumped. 269 00:14:45,452 --> 00:14:48,821 We went straight to the studio. 270 00:14:48,922 --> 00:14:51,858 And then once everyone is in the room, 271 00:14:51,959 --> 00:14:53,860 he plays a tune. 272 00:14:53,961 --> 00:14:56,063 [machine clicks] 273 00:14:56,163 --> 00:14:58,966 ["Girl You Know It's True" playing] 274 00:14:59,066 --> 00:15:04,237 275 00:15:04,337 --> 00:15:08,641 I couldn't believe that this music was for us. 276 00:15:08,741 --> 00:15:14,081 277 00:15:14,181 --> 00:15:15,282 I saw colors. 278 00:15:15,382 --> 00:15:18,151 I saw us onstage 279 00:15:18,251 --> 00:15:20,753 singing in front of a crowd. 280 00:15:20,853 --> 00:15:22,489 And then when the music stopped... 281 00:15:22,589 --> 00:15:25,192 [music stops] It was like, wow. 282 00:15:25,292 --> 00:15:27,327 You could still hear those bells-- 283 00:15:27,427 --> 00:15:29,896 ding, ding, ding, ding. 284 00:15:32,132 --> 00:15:35,368 He turned, and then, 285 00:15:35,468 --> 00:15:38,338 you know, "folgen Sie mir." You know, "follow me." 286 00:15:38,438 --> 00:15:40,807 [soft tense music] 287 00:15:40,907 --> 00:15:42,009 [speaking German] 288 00:15:42,109 --> 00:15:43,210 It felt serious. 289 00:15:43,310 --> 00:15:45,512 290 00:15:45,612 --> 00:15:48,648 And then we end up in this dark room. 291 00:15:48,748 --> 00:15:52,319 Rob and Frank start talking really fast in German, 292 00:15:52,419 --> 00:15:54,787 so I can't really understand everything, 293 00:15:54,887 --> 00:15:57,457 but I can tell, like, it's getting intense. 294 00:15:57,557 --> 00:15:59,993 Like, they raise their voices. 295 00:16:00,093 --> 00:16:02,362 Rob is looking at me with his green eyes. 296 00:16:02,462 --> 00:16:03,930 Like, he looks pissed. 297 00:16:04,031 --> 00:16:05,598 298 00:16:05,698 --> 00:16:08,835 Frank leaves and screams, 299 00:16:08,935 --> 00:16:11,604 and then Rob turns to me, saying, 300 00:16:11,704 --> 00:16:14,307 "They don't want us to sing on this record." 301 00:16:14,407 --> 00:16:16,309 And I'm like, like-- 302 00:16:16,409 --> 00:16:18,245 So, I'm trying to speak. 303 00:16:18,345 --> 00:16:19,379 I'm trying to talk to him 304 00:16:19,479 --> 00:16:20,747 and trying to get as much information, 305 00:16:20,847 --> 00:16:22,582 but he was like, "Just wait, wait. 306 00:16:22,682 --> 00:16:24,784 "They don't want us to sing! 307 00:16:24,884 --> 00:16:27,120 They want us to lip-sync the song." 308 00:16:27,220 --> 00:16:28,588 I'm like, "What?" 309 00:16:28,688 --> 00:16:31,558 Why in the hell? Like, he's playing us a song. 310 00:16:31,658 --> 00:16:34,227 I'm trying to understand, like, what do you mean? 311 00:16:34,327 --> 00:16:35,795 I don't get it. 312 00:16:35,895 --> 00:16:37,930 And that's where I--I-- I black out. 313 00:16:38,031 --> 00:16:40,533 [music fades out] 314 00:16:40,633 --> 00:16:42,935 [soft suspicious music] 315 00:16:43,036 --> 00:16:45,138 I remember thinking, "This is weird. 316 00:16:45,238 --> 00:16:47,740 Like, we don't want to lip-sync." 317 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,445 That's when Ingrid gave us the options. 318 00:16:54,047 --> 00:16:58,485 What she conveyed to us clearly is that 319 00:16:58,585 --> 00:17:02,522 we signed the contract, we got money-- 320 00:17:02,622 --> 00:17:05,892 if we didn't want to take part, 321 00:17:05,992 --> 00:17:08,261 we have to pay them back. 322 00:17:08,361 --> 00:17:09,929 But Ingrid said, 323 00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:13,032 "It's not just the advance that we paid you, 324 00:17:13,133 --> 00:17:15,034 "but also all the money that we gave you 325 00:17:15,135 --> 00:17:17,404 through the months." 326 00:17:17,504 --> 00:17:19,972 We developed a debt towards Frank Farian. 327 00:17:20,073 --> 00:17:22,309 328 00:17:22,409 --> 00:17:24,877 We were scared as hell. 329 00:17:24,977 --> 00:17:28,381 I was 21 years old and Rob was 24. 330 00:17:28,481 --> 00:17:32,051 331 00:17:32,152 --> 00:17:34,587 We had nowhere to go. 332 00:17:34,687 --> 00:17:37,524 So we thought, OK, it's one song. 333 00:17:37,624 --> 00:17:39,826 You do that and you're out. 334 00:17:39,926 --> 00:17:44,697 [water rushing] 335 00:17:44,797 --> 00:17:47,800 [Boney M's "Sunny" playing] 336 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:54,874 337 00:17:56,576 --> 00:17:59,546 ♪ Sunny 338 00:17:59,646 --> 00:18:04,384 ♪ Yesterday, my life was filled with rain ♪ 339 00:18:04,484 --> 00:18:07,053 ♪ Sunny 340 00:18:07,154 --> 00:18:12,125 ♪ You smiled at me and really eased the pain ♪ 341 00:18:12,225 --> 00:18:13,426 ♪ Sunny 342 00:18:13,526 --> 00:18:20,467 343 00:18:22,535 --> 00:18:25,372 Hold on. [chuckles] 344 00:18:25,472 --> 00:18:28,775 I should not be so funny. 345 00:18:28,875 --> 00:18:31,043 Serious. 346 00:18:31,144 --> 00:18:34,080 [laughs] 347 00:18:34,181 --> 00:18:36,115 This is serious. 348 00:18:36,216 --> 00:18:38,718 Thank you, schatzi. [kisses] 349 00:18:39,919 --> 00:18:41,321 Interview, "Milli." Take one. 350 00:18:41,421 --> 00:18:43,523 Camera A and B, mark. 351 00:18:43,623 --> 00:18:46,159 I've heard that the name Milli Vanilli 352 00:18:46,259 --> 00:18:47,727 is because of you. 353 00:18:47,827 --> 00:18:49,229 - Oh. - Is that true? 354 00:18:49,329 --> 00:18:50,497 That's true. 355 00:18:50,597 --> 00:18:52,665 [soft music] 356 00:18:52,765 --> 00:18:54,867 I was Frank's girlfriend. 357 00:19:07,514 --> 00:19:10,983 I wrote the checks because I was the financial controller 358 00:19:11,083 --> 00:19:13,553 of Frank's company. 359 00:19:19,392 --> 00:19:20,693 When they came into the studio, 360 00:19:20,793 --> 00:19:22,995 they looked fantastic. 361 00:19:23,095 --> 00:19:26,132 I never saw people like that so well-dressed 362 00:19:26,233 --> 00:19:27,834 and good-looking and braids, 363 00:19:27,934 --> 00:19:30,503 and Rob's eyes, green-- [gasps] 364 00:19:30,603 --> 00:19:32,305 You couldn't stop looking at him. 365 00:19:32,405 --> 00:19:34,541 366 00:19:47,487 --> 00:19:50,757 But they were such good dancers. 367 00:20:01,568 --> 00:20:03,770 Frank needed American singer like me. 368 00:20:03,870 --> 00:20:05,305 He said, "I'm gonna make a project 369 00:20:05,405 --> 00:20:07,274 and you'll be the lead singer." 370 00:20:07,374 --> 00:20:08,908 I said, "OK, let's do it." 371 00:20:14,314 --> 00:20:16,383 I'm from Houston, Texas. 372 00:20:16,483 --> 00:20:18,251 Frank says, "I have a new project. 373 00:20:18,351 --> 00:20:19,486 Can you rap it?" 374 00:20:19,586 --> 00:20:22,389 He wrote me a check for $12,000. 375 00:20:22,489 --> 00:20:24,257 Just keep your mouth shut. 376 00:20:24,357 --> 00:20:27,627 Frank said, "Linda, we're gonna need backing vocalists." 377 00:20:27,727 --> 00:20:29,262 So I brought in my twin sister Jodie. 378 00:20:29,362 --> 00:20:31,063 And I looked at her, I said, "If this is 'oohs' and 'ahs' 379 00:20:31,163 --> 00:20:33,300 and 'I love you,' I'm gonna shoot you." 380 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,567 I said, "Shut up." 381 00:20:34,667 --> 00:20:36,336 He hits it, he says, "I want you to sing this." 382 00:20:36,436 --> 00:20:37,937 both: * Ooh, ooh, ooh 383 00:20:38,037 --> 00:20:39,105 - * I love you - I said, "Don't say it!" 384 00:20:39,205 --> 00:20:40,807 [suspicious music] 385 00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:52,319 The song is ready, and the two guys--perfect. 386 00:20:52,419 --> 00:20:55,555 387 00:20:55,655 --> 00:20:57,590 When they're told they're gonna lip-sync, 388 00:20:57,690 --> 00:20:59,191 what's their reaction? 389 00:20:59,292 --> 00:21:00,660 No problem at all. 390 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,631 They agreed and said, "OK, when can we start?" 391 00:21:04,731 --> 00:21:07,300 It was never an--an-- an argument. 392 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,736 Never ever. Never! 393 00:21:09,836 --> 00:21:13,039 So you didn't have to convince them to lip-sync? 394 00:21:13,139 --> 00:21:14,641 No! Why? 395 00:21:14,741 --> 00:21:17,310 [soft dark music] 396 00:21:17,410 --> 00:21:19,078 They want to have success and... 397 00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:30,623 Was there ever a point you said, 398 00:21:30,723 --> 00:21:33,159 give us the advance back that we gave you. 399 00:21:33,259 --> 00:21:34,461 [sigh] Gosh. No. 400 00:21:34,561 --> 00:21:35,662 - No? - No. 401 00:21:35,762 --> 00:21:37,697 - You didn't ask-- - No, no, no. 402 00:21:37,797 --> 00:21:42,268 This is not Frank's art-- artwork, yeah. 403 00:21:42,369 --> 00:21:44,904 If they would refuse, they can go back to Munich 404 00:21:45,004 --> 00:21:46,639 and can... [flaps lips] 405 00:21:46,739 --> 00:21:48,307 go for... 406 00:21:49,409 --> 00:21:51,043 or something like that. 407 00:21:51,143 --> 00:21:52,645 [chuckles softly] 408 00:21:52,745 --> 00:21:57,750 409 00:21:57,850 --> 00:21:59,986 Well, I, uh... [clears throat] 410 00:22:00,086 --> 00:22:05,658 The first time I went to share my side, uh, 411 00:22:05,758 --> 00:22:06,993 I was young. 412 00:22:07,093 --> 00:22:10,262 And if you're a young artist, 413 00:22:10,363 --> 00:22:14,834 you can only tell what they want you to tell. 414 00:22:14,934 --> 00:22:17,537 But now, fuck it. 415 00:22:17,637 --> 00:22:19,071 [laughs] 416 00:22:19,171 --> 00:22:22,141 I ain't keeping my mouth shut for nobody. 417 00:22:22,241 --> 00:22:23,876 418 00:22:23,976 --> 00:22:28,615 Frank Farian, he was just a-- 419 00:22:28,715 --> 00:22:34,220 a genius of his art of making money. 420 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,924 He knew exactly what he was doing. 421 00:22:38,024 --> 00:22:40,493 You know, it's not the first time. 422 00:22:40,593 --> 00:22:43,095 The same game was played with Boney M. 423 00:22:43,195 --> 00:22:46,566 424 00:22:46,666 --> 00:22:50,537 Bobby was not a singer. 425 00:22:50,637 --> 00:22:51,704 He was a dancer. 426 00:22:51,804 --> 00:22:54,607 427 00:22:54,707 --> 00:22:56,308 He was a dancer. 428 00:23:03,382 --> 00:23:05,084 And who sung? 429 00:23:05,184 --> 00:23:05,918 Frank. 430 00:23:06,018 --> 00:23:11,491 [distorted vocals] 431 00:23:11,591 --> 00:23:14,126 And it sold 432 00:23:14,226 --> 00:23:16,028 how many platinums, how many golds, 433 00:23:16,128 --> 00:23:17,396 you know what I'm saying? 434 00:23:25,472 --> 00:23:28,975 You're looking at him as a producer 435 00:23:29,075 --> 00:23:32,812 that made most his money on Black artists, 436 00:23:32,912 --> 00:23:34,847 and it worked. 437 00:23:34,947 --> 00:23:36,649 Then years later, he came back 438 00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:39,786 and did it again with Milli Vanilli. 439 00:23:39,886 --> 00:23:43,222 440 00:23:43,322 --> 00:23:45,525 He took my voice, 441 00:23:45,625 --> 00:23:49,696 he took their faces, 442 00:23:49,796 --> 00:23:52,965 he put the project together, 443 00:23:53,065 --> 00:23:56,368 he put it on the market, 444 00:23:56,469 --> 00:23:58,638 and he got rich off it. 445 00:23:58,738 --> 00:24:03,009 446 00:24:03,109 --> 00:24:06,045 Milli Vanilli was delivered by Frank Farian, 447 00:24:06,145 --> 00:24:08,915 and we were the distributor. 448 00:24:09,015 --> 00:24:13,853 We only saw the pictures of the both guys and the song. 449 00:24:15,822 --> 00:24:17,323 Was nice-looking guys. 450 00:24:17,423 --> 00:24:20,259 Internationally, they could be sold because they were colored 451 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,795 and everything was--every-- it fits together. 452 00:24:22,895 --> 00:24:24,964 The product was great. The music was great. 453 00:24:25,064 --> 00:24:27,567 The whole project is fantastic. 454 00:24:31,638 --> 00:24:32,805 No, we didn't know it. 455 00:24:32,905 --> 00:24:34,741 I got tapes where-- 456 00:24:34,841 --> 00:24:40,479 me, I was told that it's Rob and Fab singing. 457 00:24:40,580 --> 00:24:45,752 [speaking German] 458 00:24:45,852 --> 00:24:47,186 One day, we're at a friend's house 459 00:24:47,286 --> 00:24:49,956 watching "Formel Eins," this TV show... 460 00:24:50,056 --> 00:24:52,191 [speaking German] 461 00:24:52,291 --> 00:24:54,994 And then we see Milli Vanilli. 462 00:24:55,094 --> 00:24:58,030 Milli Vanilli, "Girl You Know It's True." 463 00:24:58,130 --> 00:25:01,601 Our name on television on "Formel Eins." 464 00:25:01,701 --> 00:25:03,603 We used to dance behind the stars 465 00:25:03,703 --> 00:25:05,237 who would come on this show, 466 00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:08,641 and suddenly, we're in the charts. 467 00:25:08,741 --> 00:25:10,242 I mean, we went crazy. 468 00:25:10,342 --> 00:25:13,613 Running, like, we even broke stuff. 469 00:25:13,713 --> 00:25:16,382 The song starts to blow up, 470 00:25:16,482 --> 00:25:18,551 and it happens so fast. 471 00:25:18,651 --> 00:25:20,386 Like, every week, it was going up. 472 00:25:20,486 --> 00:25:21,988 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, 473 00:25:22,088 --> 00:25:25,024 boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, pow! 474 00:25:25,124 --> 00:25:26,693 And the song just takes off. 475 00:25:26,793 --> 00:25:28,227 It becomes a huge hit in Germany. 476 00:25:32,498 --> 00:25:34,901 Nobody knew it was gonna be a hit. 477 00:25:35,001 --> 00:25:36,669 Not even Frank. 478 00:25:36,769 --> 00:25:38,871 But once he's seen it was rising, 479 00:25:38,971 --> 00:25:41,273 then he started putting more promotion into it. 480 00:25:41,373 --> 00:25:43,209 Suddenly, we were in "Bravo," 481 00:25:43,309 --> 00:25:47,479 a youth magazine in Germany, selling millions every week. 482 00:25:47,580 --> 00:25:50,016 People that were not taking us seriously 483 00:25:50,116 --> 00:25:52,985 were suddenly like, "Hey." 484 00:25:53,085 --> 00:25:55,387 And now it's going through Europe. 485 00:25:55,487 --> 00:25:59,091 So we travel up and down Europe on television. 486 00:26:00,426 --> 00:26:01,828 We were nervous. 487 00:26:01,928 --> 00:26:03,395 "Can you drop your mic a little bit?" 488 00:26:03,495 --> 00:26:05,231 No, I'm gonna keep it there. [laughs] 489 00:26:05,331 --> 00:26:07,033 490 00:26:07,133 --> 00:26:10,903 But nervousness translated into excitement. 491 00:26:11,003 --> 00:26:15,608 492 00:26:15,708 --> 00:26:18,410 A minute ago, we didn't want to do this, 493 00:26:18,510 --> 00:26:21,113 but now, we want more. 494 00:26:21,213 --> 00:26:22,915 We were so pumped. 495 00:26:23,015 --> 00:26:25,818 You're in Italy, you're in Spain, 496 00:26:25,918 --> 00:26:27,419 you're in Holland. 497 00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:30,056 And then all of a sudden, it hits the States. 498 00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:31,924 Bam. 499 00:26:32,024 --> 00:26:34,293 [loud explosion] 500 00:26:34,393 --> 00:26:37,329 [rock music] 501 00:26:37,429 --> 00:26:39,565 ♪ I'm in love with you, girl, 'cause you're on my mind ♪ 502 00:26:39,666 --> 00:26:42,101 ♪ You're the one I think about most every time ♪ 503 00:26:42,201 --> 00:26:44,637 ♪ And when you pack a smile in everything you do ♪ 504 00:26:44,737 --> 00:26:46,973 ♪ Don't you understand, girl, this love is true ♪ 505 00:26:47,073 --> 00:26:50,576 They came in, braids swinging... 506 00:26:50,677 --> 00:26:52,611 Chest bumping... 507 00:26:52,712 --> 00:26:54,380 with tights on. 508 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,050 It was two Black dudes with dreads coming into pop. 509 00:26:58,150 --> 00:27:01,053 That alone was the shock factor. 510 00:27:01,153 --> 00:27:04,657 ♪ Girl, you know it's true 511 00:27:04,757 --> 00:27:07,727 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you 512 00:27:07,827 --> 00:27:10,797 The hair and the bandannas and the shoulder pads. 513 00:27:10,897 --> 00:27:12,498 ♪ Yes, you know it's true 514 00:27:12,598 --> 00:27:14,433 It was a totally different style. 515 00:27:14,533 --> 00:27:17,036 both: ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you 516 00:27:17,136 --> 00:27:18,805 - That's all we knew. - They had it all. 517 00:27:18,905 --> 00:27:20,506 Like, their visuals were on point. 518 00:27:20,606 --> 00:27:22,641 I mean, they were just eye candy. 519 00:27:22,742 --> 00:27:25,244 It was yummy, yummy, yummy. 520 00:27:25,344 --> 00:27:28,414 [upbeat funk music] 521 00:27:28,514 --> 00:27:30,516 "Girl You Know It's True" becomes the number two hit 522 00:27:30,616 --> 00:27:31,684 in the United States. 523 00:27:31,784 --> 00:27:33,452 "Girl You Know It's True," number two. 524 00:27:33,552 --> 00:27:35,988 Oh, my God. 525 00:27:36,088 --> 00:27:40,492 It became a top five hit in 23 countries around the world. 526 00:27:40,592 --> 00:27:43,863 That's Michael Jackson level success. 527 00:27:43,963 --> 00:27:45,464 Ah! 528 00:27:45,564 --> 00:27:46,632 [energizing music] 529 00:27:46,733 --> 00:27:48,467 Great music, it just rises. 530 00:27:48,567 --> 00:27:52,371 When those special ones come, they come. 531 00:27:52,471 --> 00:27:55,607 As much as it wasn't the right thing to do, 532 00:27:55,708 --> 00:27:58,210 the power of "Girl You Know It's True"... 533 00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:59,979 ♪ I'm so in love, girl 534 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:01,080 Was pulling on us. 535 00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:02,681 ♪ I'm so in love, girl 536 00:28:02,782 --> 00:28:04,150 ♪ 537 00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:08,387 This energy, this hype... - Do you want to party? 538 00:28:08,487 --> 00:28:11,690 The love... [loud cheering] 539 00:28:11,791 --> 00:28:15,027 So from that point on, 540 00:28:15,127 --> 00:28:18,164 we embraced the lie. 541 00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:48,594 - What's up? - Running. 542 00:28:48,694 --> 00:28:50,429 Yeah. 543 00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:53,232 Number one. [music playing] 544 00:28:53,332 --> 00:28:54,366 Every time we were around people 545 00:28:54,466 --> 00:28:55,835 or, like, taking pictures... 546 00:28:55,935 --> 00:28:57,236 OK. 547 00:28:58,237 --> 00:29:00,506 We knew, you know, you know. 548 00:29:00,606 --> 00:29:02,374 They don't know. Do they know? I don't know. 549 00:29:05,644 --> 00:29:08,747 But it was too difficult to say no to this new life. 550 00:29:08,848 --> 00:29:12,351 [music playing] 551 00:29:12,451 --> 00:29:16,522 "Girl You Know It's True" just unveiled the beast in us. 552 00:29:22,461 --> 00:29:23,562 Yeah. 553 00:29:24,864 --> 00:29:29,401 554 00:29:29,501 --> 00:29:31,737 We came from nothing and now we were tasting 555 00:29:31,838 --> 00:29:33,840 this pop star life. 556 00:29:33,940 --> 00:29:36,408 To be adored, to be loved, 557 00:29:36,508 --> 00:29:39,711 that became very addictive. 558 00:30:02,734 --> 00:30:04,103 I was nervous. 559 00:30:04,203 --> 00:30:10,242 Being caught was something that was always, always very aware. 560 00:30:10,342 --> 00:30:12,845 So, when will we have your LP? 561 00:30:12,945 --> 00:30:15,447 Gonna come out in two weeks. 562 00:30:15,547 --> 00:30:20,319 It's just like very pop dance orientated music. 563 00:30:20,419 --> 00:30:22,621 Are you ready here? [cheers] 564 00:30:24,723 --> 00:30:28,527 For us, it was a surprise that it developed immediately. 565 00:30:28,627 --> 00:30:30,829 It was worthwhile thinking about what you can do. 566 00:30:30,930 --> 00:30:34,000 Do we need an album? Yes, we need an album. 567 00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:37,169 Do we need a second single? Yes, we need a second single. 568 00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:43,075 [soft dark music] 569 00:30:43,175 --> 00:30:45,377 I get the call. 570 00:30:45,477 --> 00:30:46,946 "Frank needs to talk to you." 571 00:30:48,447 --> 00:30:51,083 So I goes up to the studio, 572 00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:54,420 Ingrid opened the door, I go in. 573 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,654 Sit in the kitchen and wait. 574 00:30:55,754 --> 00:30:58,557 575 00:30:58,657 --> 00:31:03,095 He came out--took his time, fixed him a coffee-- 576 00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:05,564 and then he said, 577 00:31:05,664 --> 00:31:08,734 "I told you, keep your mouth shut." 578 00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:11,971 579 00:31:12,071 --> 00:31:16,208 He says to me, um, "They found out in Munich, 580 00:31:16,308 --> 00:31:18,744 "from your promotion manager or whoever, 581 00:31:18,844 --> 00:31:21,713 "that you're the voice. 582 00:31:21,813 --> 00:31:23,815 Don't want to see you here anymore." 583 00:31:23,916 --> 00:31:25,684 We didn't talk anymore. 584 00:31:25,784 --> 00:31:29,421 That's it. 585 00:31:29,521 --> 00:31:34,360 I was kicked to the curb. 586 00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:37,229 [mysterious music] 587 00:31:37,329 --> 00:31:39,932 One night, Frank Farian called me up. 588 00:31:40,032 --> 00:31:42,901 He said, "John, I've got a project I'm working on." 589 00:31:44,803 --> 00:31:49,575 "I had a rapper, Charles Shaw, who tried the situation 590 00:31:49,675 --> 00:31:53,712 and he was not good so can you come to the studio?" 591 00:31:53,812 --> 00:31:56,048 592 00:31:56,148 --> 00:31:58,350 So that's what I did. 593 00:31:58,450 --> 00:32:00,719 He said, "You got 10,000 D-marks," 594 00:32:00,819 --> 00:32:02,788 and I said, "Wow." 595 00:32:02,888 --> 00:32:05,891 He said, "You're gonna do the whole album with me." 596 00:32:05,992 --> 00:32:09,561 Frank said, "We're gonna be doing more songs." 597 00:32:09,661 --> 00:32:11,797 We always asked, "Where is Rob and Fab? 598 00:32:11,897 --> 00:32:13,865 When are they gonna start singing?" 599 00:32:13,966 --> 00:32:16,202 Frank said, "They're gonna record in the evening 600 00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:17,769 when you guys are done." 601 00:32:36,522 --> 00:32:39,158 I used to have to go through the back door 602 00:32:39,258 --> 00:32:41,227 because Frank didn't want nobody know 603 00:32:41,327 --> 00:32:43,529 I was the lead singer. 604 00:32:43,629 --> 00:32:45,931 This is run like a tight military operation. 605 00:32:46,032 --> 00:32:48,500 It's on a need-to-know basis. 606 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,936 It was smoke and mirrors. 607 00:32:51,037 --> 00:32:55,474 David Copperfield couldn't have done it better. 608 00:32:55,574 --> 00:32:58,777 We like it hot, don't we? [cheers and applause] 609 00:32:58,877 --> 00:33:01,480 You want to get down with Milli Vanilli? 610 00:33:01,580 --> 00:33:04,150 They're coming. It's a hit. Shake your booty. 611 00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:06,785 "Girl You Know It's True." 612 00:33:06,885 --> 00:33:09,821 [energetic music] 613 00:33:09,921 --> 00:33:17,029 614 00:33:17,629 --> 00:33:18,830 - One, mark. - Mark. 615 00:33:18,930 --> 00:33:21,267 [boards click] 616 00:33:21,367 --> 00:33:23,602 Make sure everyone's phone's on silent. 617 00:33:23,702 --> 00:33:25,104 That's a good idea. 618 00:33:25,204 --> 00:33:30,776 619 00:33:30,876 --> 00:33:34,413 Clive is a-- is a gift-seeker. 620 00:33:34,513 --> 00:33:38,350 He is like the Yoda of talent. 621 00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:39,985 He knows. 622 00:33:40,086 --> 00:33:42,354 He just knows. 623 00:33:42,454 --> 00:33:45,757 With Milli Vanilli, Clive saw dollar signs. 624 00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:47,926 "Girl You Know It's True" is big now. 625 00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:50,929 How can we cash in on the immediate moment? 626 00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:54,200 Well, we moved everything up as fast as possible. 627 00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:57,035 Clive would say every week that we're missing, 628 00:33:57,136 --> 00:33:59,338 we're missing, like, a million dollars. 629 00:33:59,438 --> 00:34:02,574 So we had to put an album in motion. 630 00:34:02,674 --> 00:34:05,844 But the album that's out in Europe, "All or Nothing," 631 00:34:05,944 --> 00:34:09,915 was not strong enough to release in America. 632 00:34:10,015 --> 00:34:12,484 Clive called up Diane Warren. 633 00:34:12,584 --> 00:34:14,320 Diane Warren is one of the biggest songwriters 634 00:34:14,420 --> 00:34:15,587 there are in the country. 635 00:34:15,687 --> 00:34:17,756 I had written "Blame It On The Rain" 636 00:34:17,856 --> 00:34:19,325 when I was scheduled to see Clive, 637 00:34:19,425 --> 00:34:21,693 and he goes, I want you to hear this new group I have. 638 00:34:21,793 --> 00:34:23,262 And he played me "Girl You Know It's True." 639 00:34:23,362 --> 00:34:24,563 I'm like, "This is so crazy 640 00:34:24,663 --> 00:34:25,864 "'cause the song I'm bringing you 641 00:34:25,964 --> 00:34:27,366 really sounds like the follow-up to that." 642 00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:28,767 It's even the same rhythm. 643 00:34:28,867 --> 00:34:31,270 "Girl You Know It's True," "Blame It On The Rain." 644 00:34:31,370 --> 00:34:33,038 I played him the song and he loved it. 645 00:34:33,139 --> 00:34:35,874 He sent it to Frank Farian and they recorded it. 646 00:34:35,974 --> 00:34:38,510 647 00:34:38,610 --> 00:34:41,547 Normally, when you've given the producer 648 00:34:41,647 --> 00:34:44,383 some repertoire for them to record, 649 00:34:44,483 --> 00:34:47,453 you want to be there to make sure it gets done. 650 00:34:47,553 --> 00:34:49,521 In the case of Frank, though, 651 00:34:49,621 --> 00:34:52,291 he didn't want anyone in the studio. 652 00:34:52,391 --> 00:34:55,093 [mysterious music] 653 00:34:55,194 --> 00:34:59,431 It was very weird for us to find the songs, 654 00:34:59,531 --> 00:35:01,032 send them to Frank, 655 00:35:01,133 --> 00:35:06,705 and then have them produce it without any of our presence. 656 00:35:06,805 --> 00:35:11,143 But the speculation that we were somehow aware of 657 00:35:11,243 --> 00:35:14,246 what was going on behind the scenes in Germany 658 00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:17,749 is simply not the case. 659 00:35:17,849 --> 00:35:22,621 If an outside producer sends in all the album credits, 660 00:35:22,721 --> 00:35:24,223 you have to take it on faith 661 00:35:24,323 --> 00:35:27,759 that represents what actually happened in the studio. 662 00:35:27,859 --> 00:35:30,061 There was no reason to think not. 663 00:35:35,267 --> 00:35:36,802 Ah, there it is. 664 00:35:36,902 --> 00:35:40,038 So this is the European version of the album "All or Nothing." 665 00:35:40,138 --> 00:35:43,275 You see Rob and Fab on the cover, the first album. 666 00:35:43,375 --> 00:35:45,611 That's their, like, running man logo. 667 00:35:45,711 --> 00:35:46,745 There they are on the back, 668 00:35:46,845 --> 00:35:49,681 shirtless, of course, 'cause why not? 669 00:35:49,781 --> 00:35:54,586 And let's see who's credited on this album. 670 00:35:57,523 --> 00:36:00,592 So it says musicians here, 671 00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:04,763 and I don't see Rob and Fab on here at all. 672 00:36:04,863 --> 00:36:10,369 So, backing vocals, Jodie and Linda Rocco, Charles Shaw-- 673 00:36:10,469 --> 00:36:11,903 produced by Frank Farian. 674 00:36:12,003 --> 00:36:15,341 But this is the truth in advertising version 675 00:36:15,441 --> 00:36:17,075 that doesn't have them on it. 676 00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:20,346 If I'm at a record label and I'm putting out this record, 677 00:36:20,446 --> 00:36:23,749 and I look at the vocalists and the guys who are on the cover 678 00:36:23,849 --> 00:36:26,485 are not listed in the liner notes, 679 00:36:26,585 --> 00:36:27,919 I'm gonna have some questions, you know? 680 00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:31,189 Like, that is a giant red flag for me. 681 00:36:35,961 --> 00:36:38,297 That was the name of the European album. 682 00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:43,769 Really? OK. I didn't know that. 683 00:36:43,869 --> 00:36:46,972 - So that's-- - [chuckles] 684 00:36:53,011 --> 00:36:54,212 [laughs] I-- 685 00:36:54,313 --> 00:36:55,213 I don't know what to say to that. 686 00:36:57,883 --> 00:37:00,652 Yeah, but we didn't release that record, so-- 687 00:37:05,424 --> 00:37:07,893 Really? I forgot about that. 688 00:37:07,993 --> 00:37:11,029 ["Blame It On The Rain" playing] 689 00:37:11,129 --> 00:37:16,034 690 00:37:16,134 --> 00:37:19,871 ♪ Woo, blame it on the rain 691 00:37:19,971 --> 00:37:22,308 - * Rain - * Yeah, yeah 692 00:37:22,408 --> 00:37:24,710 ♪ Blame it on the stars 693 00:37:24,810 --> 00:37:26,244 - * Stars - * Ooh 694 00:37:26,345 --> 00:37:28,246 Rob Pilatus, my brother, 695 00:37:28,347 --> 00:37:31,082 he loved "Blame It On The Rain" because that was-- 696 00:37:31,182 --> 00:37:34,353 that was his thing. 697 00:37:34,453 --> 00:37:35,787 ♪ You said you didn't need her ♪ 698 00:37:35,887 --> 00:37:39,057 "Blame It On The Rain" is number one hit in 1989. 699 00:37:39,157 --> 00:37:41,927 They released "Baby Don't Forget My Number," number one. 700 00:37:42,027 --> 00:37:44,863 "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" is the third number one song. 701 00:37:44,963 --> 00:37:46,865 They have three number one smashes off that record. 702 00:37:46,965 --> 00:37:48,534 That feels impossible. 703 00:37:48,634 --> 00:37:50,769 ♪ To satisfy your pride 704 00:37:50,869 --> 00:37:53,872 And once you have three big hit singles, 705 00:37:53,972 --> 00:37:56,942 you're gonna sell a lot of albums. 706 00:37:57,042 --> 00:38:00,546 If an artist sells 500,000 and went gold, that's terrific. 707 00:38:00,646 --> 00:38:02,280 [crowd screaming] 708 00:38:02,381 --> 00:38:05,817 ♪ You let her walk away 709 00:38:05,917 --> 00:38:08,620 If an artist sells a million albums, that's something. 710 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,121 ♪ Got to blame it on something ♪ 711 00:38:10,221 --> 00:38:11,757 But 8 million? 712 00:38:11,857 --> 00:38:13,959 It's one of the biggest debuts of all time. 713 00:38:14,059 --> 00:38:19,164 ♪ Blame it on the rain that was falling, falling ♪ 714 00:38:19,264 --> 00:38:22,534 ♪ Blame it on the stars that didn't shine that night ♪ 715 00:38:22,634 --> 00:38:24,002 To just come out of nowhere 716 00:38:24,102 --> 00:38:26,605 and have a number one debut album for seven weeks, 717 00:38:26,705 --> 00:38:29,040 well, that just was unheard of at the time. 718 00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:33,111 ♪ Blame it on the rain, yeah, yeah ♪ 719 00:38:33,211 --> 00:38:37,182 Debut album, hot right out of the gate. 720 00:38:37,282 --> 00:38:38,617 "Here's Milli Vanilli. 721 00:38:38,717 --> 00:38:40,051 What do you want to do with it?" 722 00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:41,987 Well, we want to play it. We want to dance to it. 723 00:38:42,087 --> 00:38:43,489 We want to have fun with them. 724 00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:46,224 Can we get them in the studio? We want to meet them. 725 00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:51,363 ♪ Blame it on the rain that was falling, falling ♪ 726 00:38:51,463 --> 00:38:53,131 ♪ Blame it on the stars 727 00:38:53,231 --> 00:38:55,300 At that point, what are we gonna do? 728 00:38:55,401 --> 00:38:58,670 Should we bring them over? Should they do the MTV tour? 729 00:38:58,770 --> 00:39:00,972 Then that all kicks in. 730 00:39:01,072 --> 00:39:03,108 ♪ Blame it on the rain 731 00:39:03,208 --> 00:39:06,044 Labels saw we were growing in the charts in America. 732 00:39:06,144 --> 00:39:07,813 ♪ Blame it on the rain 733 00:39:07,913 --> 00:39:10,416 Our presence was needed. 734 00:39:10,516 --> 00:39:12,117 [soft dark music] 735 00:39:12,217 --> 00:39:15,887 But Frank didn't want us to go to America. 736 00:39:15,987 --> 00:39:17,523 Frank was apprehensive 737 00:39:17,623 --> 00:39:19,991 because of the big secret, obviously. 738 00:39:20,091 --> 00:39:23,228 Frank was concerned that they would go to America 739 00:39:23,328 --> 00:39:25,897 and fuck up everything. 740 00:39:25,997 --> 00:39:29,034 America had our heart. 741 00:39:29,134 --> 00:39:33,304 "We want to go to the US. USA! USA!" 742 00:39:33,405 --> 00:39:35,441 [Tone Loc's "Funky Cold Medina" playing] 743 00:39:35,541 --> 00:39:37,943 744 00:39:38,043 --> 00:39:39,911 Coming to LA for us was like 745 00:39:40,011 --> 00:39:42,514 we're living the dream, we're doing things. 746 00:39:42,614 --> 00:39:43,849 - A'ight? - Kick it. 747 00:39:43,949 --> 00:39:46,785 Hollywood, Malibu. 748 00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:49,455 The girls are hot there, too. Oof. 749 00:39:49,555 --> 00:39:51,557 750 00:39:51,657 --> 00:39:53,191 ♪ Cold coolin' at a bar 751 00:39:53,291 --> 00:39:55,661 We got a manager, Sandy Gallin... 752 00:39:55,761 --> 00:39:56,995 ♪ But like Mick Jagger said ♪ 753 00:39:57,095 --> 00:39:58,530 He was like a big player. 754 00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:59,831 ♪ I can't get no satisfaction ♪ 755 00:39:59,931 --> 00:40:01,399 He had Michael Jackson at the time, 756 00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:03,802 Dolly Parton--tons of people. 757 00:40:03,902 --> 00:40:04,970 That's why he had us, 758 00:40:05,070 --> 00:40:06,472 to handle people like Milli Vanilli. 759 00:40:06,572 --> 00:40:09,007 ♪ Funky Cold Medina 760 00:40:09,107 --> 00:40:11,276 I was truly, in the beginning, a fan. 761 00:40:11,376 --> 00:40:13,411 I said to them, "You know, I've never been 762 00:40:13,512 --> 00:40:14,913 a manager before," 763 00:40:15,013 --> 00:40:19,050 and Rob said, "Well, we've never been pop stars before." 764 00:40:19,150 --> 00:40:22,120 I was like, "OK, here we go." 765 00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:23,955 [laughs] 766 00:40:25,356 --> 00:40:29,327 My first job was putting them on the MTV tour. 767 00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:31,963 It was gonna be our first tour in America-- 768 00:40:32,063 --> 00:40:35,567 a 107 city tour in eight months-- 769 00:40:35,667 --> 00:40:37,769 so we had to put a band together. 770 00:40:37,869 --> 00:40:39,971 771 00:40:40,071 --> 00:40:41,840 I was the band leader then. 772 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:44,710 We had rehearsed, we were flawless. 773 00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:47,278 Everybody was really invested in this gig 774 00:40:47,378 --> 00:40:50,549 'cause it was the new hottest shit, you know? 775 00:40:50,649 --> 00:40:52,718 After we had been approved, 776 00:40:52,818 --> 00:40:56,788 Rob and Fab disappeared. They were gone. 777 00:40:56,888 --> 00:41:00,526 So we were just rehearsing with no artist. 778 00:41:00,626 --> 00:41:04,896 And I start going, "These guys must be really, really good. 779 00:41:04,996 --> 00:41:07,098 "They don't rehearse, they don't fucking do nothing. 780 00:41:07,198 --> 00:41:10,736 They-- what the hell's going on?" 781 00:41:10,836 --> 00:41:12,370 We started asking more questions. 782 00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:15,206 We got to realize, this musical director at the time 783 00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:19,611 is programming this Oberheim. There's where the vocals are. 784 00:41:19,711 --> 00:41:23,348 And then we understood, "Oh, they're lip-syncing." 785 00:41:23,448 --> 00:41:26,051 So we said, "OK, we're in a lip-sync band." 786 00:41:26,151 --> 00:41:27,519 [laughs] 787 00:41:27,619 --> 00:41:29,655 They said, "Don't say anything about this to anybody else." 788 00:41:29,755 --> 00:41:30,856 "Fine." 789 00:41:30,956 --> 00:41:33,859 [hip-hop music] 790 00:41:33,959 --> 00:41:38,196 The show would play to packed arenas. 791 00:41:38,296 --> 00:41:43,334 Rob and Fab were two sexy performers selling hits, 792 00:41:43,434 --> 00:41:46,538 and they did a really bloody good job at it. 793 00:41:46,638 --> 00:41:51,309 [wild cheers and applause] 794 00:41:51,409 --> 00:41:54,379 ["Girl You Know It's True" playing] 795 00:41:54,479 --> 00:41:58,950 796 00:41:59,050 --> 00:42:04,656 [screams] 797 00:42:04,756 --> 00:42:11,096 Yeah! 798 00:42:11,196 --> 00:42:14,800 ♪ Girl, you know it's true 799 00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:20,939 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you 800 00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:23,008 ♪ Yes, you know it's true 801 00:42:23,108 --> 00:42:26,745 [wild cheers and applause] 802 00:42:26,845 --> 00:42:28,847 The audience loved them. 803 00:42:28,947 --> 00:42:31,683 Yeah! 804 00:42:31,783 --> 00:42:34,019 It was very powerful. 805 00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:36,121 ♪ Girl, you know it's, girl, you know it's ♪ 806 00:42:36,221 --> 00:42:38,523 ♪ Girl, you know it's true 807 00:42:38,624 --> 00:42:40,959 ♪ Girl, you know it's, yes, you know it's ♪ 808 00:42:41,059 --> 00:42:44,562 ♪ Girl, you know it's true 809 00:42:44,663 --> 00:42:48,433 Performing is a drug. 810 00:42:48,533 --> 00:42:53,639 That euphoric feeling allowed us to just forget everything. 811 00:42:53,739 --> 00:43:00,478 812 00:43:02,981 --> 00:43:06,451 [wild cheering] 813 00:43:06,551 --> 00:43:08,486 Milli Vanilli, the European duo, 814 00:43:08,586 --> 00:43:10,588 now one of the hottest groups in America, 815 00:43:10,689 --> 00:43:13,792 made a special trip to the Disney MGM Studios theme parks 816 00:43:13,892 --> 00:43:14,860 where we arranged for them to have 817 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,427 an exclusive interview session 818 00:43:16,527 --> 00:43:18,664 with some of their most loyal fans. 819 00:43:18,764 --> 00:43:20,165 Wherever you've performed, 820 00:43:20,265 --> 00:43:23,334 has anything really embarrassing happened to you? 821 00:43:23,434 --> 00:43:24,636 Yeah. 822 00:43:24,736 --> 00:43:27,005 [laughter] 823 00:43:27,105 --> 00:43:29,941 [tense music] 824 00:43:30,041 --> 00:43:34,179 825 00:43:34,279 --> 00:43:36,381 It was super hot that day. 826 00:43:36,481 --> 00:43:40,752 "Downtown" Julie Brown introduces us as usual. 827 00:43:47,759 --> 00:43:49,327 I decided to take a break-- 828 00:43:49,427 --> 00:43:52,463 the show had been going now for a few months-- 829 00:43:52,563 --> 00:43:55,400 and it was while I was in my trailer 830 00:43:55,500 --> 00:44:00,105 I heard the crowd, like, getting a little bit rowdy. 831 00:44:00,205 --> 00:44:02,173 [crowd shouting and booing] 832 00:44:02,273 --> 00:44:04,810 The vocals that were being cued from the emulator 833 00:44:04,910 --> 00:44:06,077 started repeating. 834 00:44:06,177 --> 00:44:07,545 ♪ Girl, you know it's-- 835 00:44:07,645 --> 00:44:09,981 ♪ Girl, you know it's-- girl, you know it's-- ♪ 836 00:44:10,081 --> 00:44:11,850 ♪ Girl, you know it's-- 837 00:44:11,950 --> 00:44:14,619 It was like-- [imitating heartbeat] 838 00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:15,687 Shit! 839 00:44:15,787 --> 00:44:18,189 [crowd shouting and booing] 840 00:44:18,289 --> 00:44:22,160 As I open my door, I saw Rob go flying by. 841 00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:25,230 Rob and Fab were gone, and I'm onstage still with 842 00:44:25,330 --> 00:44:27,232 the guitar player and the drummer going "What the fuck? 843 00:44:27,332 --> 00:44:29,701 Do we continue the song on or what are we doing here?" 844 00:44:29,801 --> 00:44:31,336 [crowd booing] 845 00:44:31,436 --> 00:44:32,704 So, of course, there was outrage. 846 00:44:32,804 --> 00:44:33,972 I was furious. 847 00:44:34,072 --> 00:44:36,674 "What the fuck, you know? Find him!" 848 00:44:36,775 --> 00:44:39,811 Rob was pissed. He was like, "Fuck that!" 849 00:44:39,911 --> 00:44:42,080 He lost his cool. 850 00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:44,716 Rob had gotten hold of me to say, 851 00:44:44,816 --> 00:44:45,884 "I don't know what to do." 852 00:44:45,984 --> 00:44:47,618 You know, he was scared. 853 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,921 854 00:44:50,021 --> 00:44:51,322 He kind of exploded. 855 00:44:51,422 --> 00:44:57,128 It was the moment where it just burst open. 856 00:44:57,228 --> 00:44:58,897 And at that time, we didn't know 857 00:44:58,997 --> 00:45:02,968 what pressure he was feeling because we didn't know 858 00:45:03,068 --> 00:45:04,770 the load they were carrying. 859 00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:09,374 860 00:45:29,828 --> 00:45:33,264 [radio tuning] 861 00:45:33,364 --> 00:45:36,768 ♪ On the rain that was falling ♪ 862 00:45:36,868 --> 00:45:37,869 When Milli Vanilli blew up, 863 00:45:37,969 --> 00:45:39,370 I was a program director at 864 00:45:39,470 --> 00:45:44,275 WILD radio station, Boston. 1090 on the AM dial. 865 00:45:44,375 --> 00:45:49,080 The only Black station within miles 866 00:45:49,180 --> 00:45:51,582 of Boston, Massachusetts. 867 00:45:51,682 --> 00:45:53,018 [hip-hop music] 868 00:45:53,118 --> 00:45:56,387 The guys came to our radio station for our morning show. 869 00:45:56,487 --> 00:45:57,755 And I remember them sitting there, 870 00:45:57,856 --> 00:45:59,357 and when I heard them talk for the first time, 871 00:45:59,457 --> 00:46:01,860 I'm like, "Oh, they sound very different 872 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,095 than they do on the record." 873 00:46:04,195 --> 00:46:05,296 [laughs and claps] 874 00:46:05,396 --> 00:46:07,765 Please welcome Milli Vanilli. 875 00:46:07,866 --> 00:46:10,869 [wild cheering] 876 00:46:10,969 --> 00:46:13,504 Once they started doing promotional dates, 877 00:46:13,604 --> 00:46:16,241 it became pretty clear that something was strange. 878 00:46:16,341 --> 00:46:17,876 Fab, how are you finding Australia? 879 00:46:17,976 --> 00:46:19,310 You enjoying it? 880 00:46:22,013 --> 00:46:23,614 Sydney? [laughter] 881 00:46:23,714 --> 00:46:25,516 Syd-ney. Syd-ney. 882 00:46:26,151 --> 00:46:29,855 Melbourne. Melbourne. [laughter] 883 00:46:31,356 --> 00:46:35,060 It just seemed that they weren't comfortable 884 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,295 communicating in English. 885 00:46:37,395 --> 00:46:40,031 Who inspired you the most, Rob? 886 00:46:40,131 --> 00:46:42,533 Uh, diff--difficult. 887 00:46:42,633 --> 00:46:45,170 You could tell they were sweating bullets. 888 00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:46,304 People were starting to, you know, 889 00:46:46,404 --> 00:46:47,973 giggle a little bit on the sides. 890 00:46:48,073 --> 00:46:49,574 Fab, you speak English, right? 891 00:46:49,674 --> 00:46:52,310 - Yeah, I can, too. - Who are your--[laughs] 892 00:46:52,410 --> 00:46:54,745 And it was easy to kind of latch on to that 893 00:46:54,846 --> 00:46:55,813 and make them a joke. 894 00:46:55,914 --> 00:47:00,018 You are Germany, and I'm from French. 895 00:47:00,118 --> 00:47:01,887 Oh. [laughter] 896 00:47:01,987 --> 00:47:03,621 [explosion] 897 00:47:03,721 --> 00:47:06,391 There's a way that I think some people knew. 898 00:47:06,491 --> 00:47:10,628 [mocking] ♪ Blame it on the rain 899 00:47:10,728 --> 00:47:12,830 Arsenio Hall is someone who had been around the business 900 00:47:12,931 --> 00:47:15,233 a long time and had seen a lot. 901 00:47:15,333 --> 00:47:17,235 Man, I think Milli Vanilli doing crack. 902 00:47:17,335 --> 00:47:18,636 I don't think-- [laughter] 903 00:47:18,736 --> 00:47:20,505 It seemed bad to a lot of these folks. 904 00:47:20,605 --> 00:47:22,974 Those pants too tight. They going-- 905 00:47:23,074 --> 00:47:24,809 They knew something was up. 906 00:47:24,910 --> 00:47:27,345 [cheers and applause] 907 00:47:27,445 --> 00:47:29,414 Privately, I thought, like, 908 00:47:29,514 --> 00:47:32,383 you know, "Did they really sing everything?" 909 00:47:32,483 --> 00:47:34,285 Girls! crowd: Girls! 910 00:47:34,385 --> 00:47:36,988 Hey, boys! crowd: Hey, boys! 911 00:47:37,088 --> 00:47:39,958 Yeah! crowd: Yeah! 912 00:47:40,058 --> 00:47:43,628 ♪ Girl, you know it's-- girl, you know it's true ♪ 913 00:47:43,728 --> 00:47:45,663 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh 914 00:47:45,763 --> 00:47:48,233 ♪ I'm in love with you, girl, 'cause you're on my mind ♪ 915 00:47:48,333 --> 00:47:50,301 ♪ You're the one I think about most every time ♪ 916 00:47:50,401 --> 00:47:52,938 We didn't sing on those records. 917 00:47:53,038 --> 00:47:55,306 ♪ Don't you understand, girl, this love is true ♪ 918 00:47:55,406 --> 00:47:57,675 We didn't even sound like those records. 919 00:47:57,775 --> 00:47:59,945 920 00:48:00,045 --> 00:48:02,813 We were lying. 921 00:48:02,914 --> 00:48:06,384 [soft dark music] 922 00:48:06,484 --> 00:48:09,587 [speaking French] 923 00:48:13,124 --> 00:48:14,993 Lies are taking the elevators 924 00:48:15,093 --> 00:48:17,963 while the truth takes the stairs. 925 00:48:18,063 --> 00:48:21,599 926 00:48:21,699 --> 00:48:24,835 I knew that at some point, the truth would rise. 927 00:48:24,936 --> 00:48:26,938 928 00:48:27,038 --> 00:48:29,975 They were gonna catch us at some point or another. 929 00:48:30,075 --> 00:48:31,676 930 00:48:36,681 --> 00:48:40,018 931 00:48:40,118 --> 00:48:43,521 This load on our shoulders, 932 00:48:43,621 --> 00:48:46,657 it was getting heavy and heavy and heavy. 933 00:48:46,757 --> 00:48:48,659 [wild cheering] 934 00:49:02,407 --> 00:49:06,644 [wild cheering] 935 00:49:18,223 --> 00:49:21,692 [wild cheering] 936 00:49:24,529 --> 00:49:26,797 I was a little bit tired by it, yeah. 937 00:49:36,574 --> 00:49:40,211 We drank more, took more drugs, 938 00:49:40,311 --> 00:49:43,348 to be able to, like, numb out. 939 00:50:02,967 --> 00:50:05,436 I think next time, next time, maybe-- 940 00:50:05,536 --> 00:50:07,004 should we ask them to sing next time? 941 00:50:07,105 --> 00:50:09,740 [wild cheering] 942 00:50:17,848 --> 00:50:19,917 Um... 943 00:50:20,017 --> 00:50:23,421 This, uh... 944 00:50:31,028 --> 00:50:33,964 [soft music] 945 00:51:26,417 --> 00:51:33,591 946 00:51:43,868 --> 00:51:47,272 [shouts] 947 00:51:48,173 --> 00:51:50,308 They got double platinum. They got gold records. 948 00:51:50,408 --> 00:51:52,943 949 00:51:53,043 --> 00:51:55,346 Everybody else got a gold record of my voice 950 00:51:55,446 --> 00:51:56,847 on their walls. 951 00:51:56,947 --> 00:51:58,483 952 00:51:58,583 --> 00:52:01,952 That's my voice! 953 00:52:02,052 --> 00:52:03,754 You end up drinking, 954 00:52:03,854 --> 00:52:07,325 you end up taking drugs to not think about 955 00:52:07,425 --> 00:52:09,927 what's really happening in reality. 956 00:52:10,027 --> 00:52:13,063 Then my manager that I had at that time said, 957 00:52:13,164 --> 00:52:15,032 "Well, you know what? 958 00:52:15,132 --> 00:52:19,237 We're gonna do interviews. You're gonna go live." 959 00:52:19,337 --> 00:52:20,905 I was singing before Milli Vanilli 960 00:52:21,005 --> 00:52:23,140 even thought about becoming stars. 961 00:52:23,241 --> 00:52:26,844 I went abroad and said it in a TV show, 962 00:52:26,944 --> 00:52:28,179 it's my voice. 963 00:52:28,279 --> 00:52:32,217 Music is from Frank Farian and not from Milli Vanilli. 964 00:52:32,317 --> 00:52:39,257 965 00:52:40,325 --> 00:52:43,060 And Frank denied it all. 966 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,297 His words were--I can remember them to the day-- 967 00:52:46,397 --> 00:52:49,267 "This artist is a liar. 968 00:52:49,367 --> 00:52:52,036 "Look the way he's dressed. 969 00:52:52,136 --> 00:52:53,971 "The Black guy. 970 00:52:54,071 --> 00:52:55,506 He's just trying to make money." 971 00:52:55,606 --> 00:52:58,008 972 00:53:08,953 --> 00:53:10,054 Ingrid! 973 00:53:10,154 --> 00:53:11,789 She said, "Frank don't want you to be 974 00:53:11,889 --> 00:53:15,025 "talking out there to nobody. Keep your mouth shut." 975 00:53:15,125 --> 00:53:16,394 "How could you say that? 976 00:53:16,494 --> 00:53:19,430 You're just trying to get publicity." 977 00:53:19,530 --> 00:53:22,233 Milli Vanilli fans? Oh, man. 978 00:53:22,333 --> 00:53:24,269 Death threats. 979 00:53:24,369 --> 00:53:29,474 "Your next show, this and this is gonna happen to you." 980 00:53:29,574 --> 00:53:31,576 The phone rang and it was Charles Shaw. 981 00:53:31,676 --> 00:53:33,311 And I didn't know who he was, 982 00:53:33,411 --> 00:53:35,346 and he said, "I'm the real singer of Milli Vanilli 983 00:53:35,446 --> 00:53:37,448 and you have to help me." 984 00:53:37,548 --> 00:53:39,484 So I called Sandy right away 985 00:53:39,584 --> 00:53:41,619 and I said, "I just got this weird call from this guy. 986 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:42,820 He says he's the real voice." 987 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,324 "Ah, just a crazy person. Just ignore it." 988 00:53:46,424 --> 00:53:49,093 It didn't interest anybody. 989 00:53:49,994 --> 00:53:54,231 You get tired of trying to 990 00:53:54,332 --> 00:53:57,302 lead a jackass to water 991 00:53:57,402 --> 00:53:59,270 and make him drink it. 992 00:54:18,456 --> 00:54:21,726 [crowd cheering] 993 00:54:21,826 --> 00:54:23,928 People wanted to believe 994 00:54:24,028 --> 00:54:25,696 they are really singing these songs 995 00:54:25,796 --> 00:54:27,765 because it was a good production. 996 00:54:27,865 --> 00:54:29,634 It was entertainment. 997 00:54:31,268 --> 00:54:34,038 It's a magic trick pulled off in front of you onstage, 998 00:54:34,138 --> 00:54:36,240 and the audience usually wants to be deceived 999 00:54:36,341 --> 00:54:37,842 in a magic show. 1000 00:54:37,942 --> 00:54:41,346 So if everyone benefits from a scam like that, 1001 00:54:41,446 --> 00:54:42,813 including the audience, 1002 00:54:42,913 --> 00:54:45,516 it's very easy to look the other way. 1003 00:54:45,616 --> 00:54:46,751 Everyone got his bonus, 1004 00:54:46,851 --> 00:54:49,086 everyone was happy to be successful, 1005 00:54:49,186 --> 00:54:51,989 and the people are happy to have this record. 1006 00:54:52,089 --> 00:54:57,227 We all together were in a very nice flow of success. 1007 00:54:57,328 --> 00:55:00,164 ["Money" playing] 1008 00:55:00,264 --> 00:55:02,032 ♪ Mo-mo-mo-money rules the world ♪ 1009 00:55:02,132 --> 00:55:04,001 ♪ It's still the same old greed ♪ 1010 00:55:04,101 --> 00:55:06,637 Successful music is a great money machine. 1011 00:55:06,737 --> 00:55:09,139 Their videos are hot, their songs are hot. 1012 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,075 Singles, albums, maxi singles... 1013 00:55:11,175 --> 00:55:12,309 Buy it now. 1014 00:55:12,410 --> 00:55:14,979 The album made $580 million. 1015 00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:18,115 They had sold approximately 46 million records, global. 1016 00:55:18,215 --> 00:55:20,284 There was merchandise, keychains, 1017 00:55:20,385 --> 00:55:21,519 ticket sales to the concerts. 1018 00:55:21,619 --> 00:55:23,554 It's Milli Vanilli. Milli Vanilli! 1019 00:55:23,654 --> 00:55:25,623 What a show. What a night. 1020 00:55:25,723 --> 00:55:27,425 We're going to a Milli Vanilli concert. 1021 00:55:27,525 --> 00:55:31,629 They could've recorded the alphabet, the phonebook. 1022 00:55:31,729 --> 00:55:33,898 You name it, they were selling it. 1023 00:55:33,998 --> 00:55:35,199 Their logo is the running man 1024 00:55:35,299 --> 00:55:38,135 and it symbolizes the pursuit of success. 1025 00:55:38,235 --> 00:55:39,937 If they do any better next year, 1026 00:55:40,037 --> 00:55:42,072 they're gonna have to find a new logo. 1027 00:55:42,172 --> 00:55:44,174 At that time, Frank Farian was worth 1028 00:55:44,274 --> 00:55:45,943 almost half a billion. 1029 00:55:46,043 --> 00:55:49,146 ♪ Money rules the world and don't you love that cash? ♪ 1030 00:55:49,246 --> 00:55:51,649 They continued to steamroll through the end of the year. 1031 00:55:51,749 --> 00:55:54,184 And the winner is... Milli Vanilli. 1032 00:55:54,284 --> 00:55:55,720 They won three American Music Awards... 1033 00:55:55,820 --> 00:55:57,354 Milli Vanilli. 1034 00:55:57,955 --> 00:55:59,624 Milli Vanilli! 1035 00:55:59,724 --> 00:56:01,659 This train was moving. 1036 00:56:01,759 --> 00:56:04,862 Thank you to our producer, Frank Farian, 1037 00:56:04,962 --> 00:56:06,597 to our manager, Sandy Gallin. 1038 00:56:06,697 --> 00:56:08,733 We'd like to thank Clive Davis. 1039 00:56:08,833 --> 00:56:10,801 ♪ Money rules the world 1040 00:56:10,901 --> 00:56:12,837 Arista, BMG, 1041 00:56:12,937 --> 00:56:16,441 they were cashing in the bucks. 1042 00:56:16,541 --> 00:56:18,008 ♪ Money, money 1043 00:56:18,108 --> 00:56:19,910 And the whole thing with Milli Vanilli 1044 00:56:20,010 --> 00:56:21,278 would have kept going if 1045 00:56:21,378 --> 00:56:24,849 they had not been nominated for the Grammys. 1046 00:56:27,785 --> 00:56:30,187 Well, because-- no, but, see, 1047 00:56:30,287 --> 00:56:33,991 most everybody knew the secret, and I didn't. 1048 00:56:34,091 --> 00:56:35,560 They never told me this, 1049 00:56:35,660 --> 00:56:38,663 so I just assumed they sang, you know? 1050 00:56:38,763 --> 00:56:40,164 [hip-hop music] 1051 00:56:40,264 --> 00:56:43,000 So we're at a conference meeting and I said, 1052 00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:45,102 "I think Milli Vanilli could get nominated for a Grammy." 1053 00:56:45,202 --> 00:56:47,204 I thought "Blame It On The Rain" was a Grammy song. 1054 00:56:47,304 --> 00:56:49,273 They laughed at me and they're like, "Trust me, 1055 00:56:49,373 --> 00:56:52,543 Milli Vanilli's never gonna get nominated for a Grammy." 1056 00:56:52,643 --> 00:56:54,512 So I called National Academy of 1057 00:56:54,612 --> 00:56:56,046 Recording Arts and Sciences. 1058 00:56:56,146 --> 00:56:57,815 They put me right through to Mike Greene's office, 1059 00:56:57,915 --> 00:57:00,417 the president of NARAS. 1060 00:57:00,518 --> 00:57:03,353 I had no idea how somebody actually does get nominated, 1061 00:57:03,454 --> 00:57:05,355 and he said, "Oh, you just put it on 1062 00:57:05,456 --> 00:57:07,458 "your management company letterhead, 1063 00:57:07,558 --> 00:57:10,595 'please consider Milli Vanilli for a Grammy.'" 1064 00:57:10,695 --> 00:57:13,831 So I typed it up and faxed it off to the Academy. 1065 00:57:13,931 --> 00:57:16,233 Never thought another thing about it. 1066 00:57:16,333 --> 00:57:19,970 So when that ballot came out and Milli Vanilli was on it, 1067 00:57:20,070 --> 00:57:23,173 like, just everything hit the fan. 1068 00:57:23,273 --> 00:57:25,810 Clive called Sandy and threw a hissy fit, 1069 00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:28,546 and then Sandy called me absolutely furious, 1070 00:57:28,646 --> 00:57:30,648 like, "Look what you've done!" 1071 00:57:30,748 --> 00:57:32,316 I'm like, 1072 00:57:32,416 --> 00:57:34,552 "why doesn't anybody want them to have a Grammy award?" 1073 00:57:34,652 --> 00:57:37,655 [laughs] 1074 00:57:37,755 --> 00:57:41,926 [suspicious music] 1075 00:57:42,026 --> 00:57:44,995 If Milli Vanilli had been nominated for 1076 00:57:45,095 --> 00:57:47,264 the lip-sync awards, that would've been fine, 1077 00:57:47,364 --> 00:57:51,902 but they got nominated for this prestigious musical award 1078 00:57:52,002 --> 00:57:53,938 and they were up against people who produce music 1079 00:57:54,038 --> 00:57:55,940 and write music and sing. 1080 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,407 They were up against the Indigo Girls... 1081 00:57:57,508 --> 00:58:01,646 ♪ Closer I am to fine 1082 00:58:01,746 --> 00:58:03,614 This incredible folk duo who sang 1083 00:58:03,714 --> 00:58:05,883 these beautiful, deep songs. 1084 00:58:05,983 --> 00:58:07,017 [Tone Loc's "Funky Cold Medina" playing] 1085 00:58:07,117 --> 00:58:08,686 They were up against Tone Loc. 1086 00:58:08,786 --> 00:58:10,320 ♪ Funky Cold Medina 1087 00:58:10,420 --> 00:58:13,323 Tone Loc made brilliantly constructed records, 1088 00:58:13,423 --> 00:58:16,026 full of incredibly clever rhythmic artifice. 1089 00:58:16,126 --> 00:58:18,128 - * Sweetness - Neneh Cherry, who had 1090 00:58:18,228 --> 00:58:21,231 a really interesting debut album and had a lot to say. 1091 00:58:21,331 --> 00:58:22,833 ♪ We always hang in a buffalo stance ♪ 1092 00:58:22,933 --> 00:58:25,002 ♪ Back to life 1093 00:58:25,102 --> 00:58:29,339 Soul II Soul changed the way R&B music sounded. 1094 00:58:29,439 --> 00:58:31,976 They changed the way music moved. 1095 00:58:32,076 --> 00:58:34,912 And so, if I'm one of those artists, 1096 00:58:35,012 --> 00:58:36,446 I'm like, "These guys?" 1097 00:58:36,547 --> 00:58:39,249 1098 00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:44,254 We knew that the Grammys were the highest standard. 1099 00:58:44,354 --> 00:58:47,124 [resonant music] 1100 00:58:47,224 --> 00:58:51,395 Then here we were, you know, Rob and Fab. 1101 00:58:51,495 --> 00:58:56,433 Not only that, they want us to perform live. 1102 00:58:56,533 --> 00:59:00,337 I thought, how the hell are they going to do the Grammys 1103 00:59:00,437 --> 00:59:01,939 when it's all live? 1104 00:59:06,443 --> 00:59:08,478 Live-sing. 1105 00:59:21,091 --> 00:59:24,261 Michael Greene was the head of NARAS at the time. 1106 00:59:24,361 --> 00:59:28,999 I remember taking a picture with him, and him saying, 1107 00:59:29,099 --> 00:59:31,802 "Be sure you do it right tonight." 1108 00:59:31,902 --> 00:59:33,904 [whistles] 1109 00:59:34,004 --> 00:59:36,140 Money, money, money makes the world go 'round. 1110 00:59:38,108 --> 00:59:43,447 [tense music] 1111 00:59:43,547 --> 00:59:45,149 We're at the Shrine. 1112 00:59:45,249 --> 00:59:49,019 I remember getting out of the car and going in. 1113 00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:51,355 On that day, it was pressure. 1114 00:59:51,455 --> 00:59:52,456 [applause] 1115 00:59:52,556 --> 00:59:53,357 Ladies and gentlemen, 1116 00:59:53,457 --> 00:59:55,960 Mr. Mike Greene. - Thank you. 1117 00:59:56,060 --> 00:59:57,762 This is a great night for music! 1118 00:59:57,862 --> 00:59:59,429 [applause] 1119 00:59:59,529 --> 01:00:01,298 Yeah, boy! 1120 01:00:01,398 --> 01:00:04,368 All the stars are in the building. 1121 01:00:04,468 --> 01:00:06,503 Woo-hoo! 1122 01:00:07,838 --> 01:00:10,941 Finally, it was our turn to be on that stage. 1123 01:00:11,041 --> 01:00:13,343 Cold sweat. [whistles] 1124 01:00:13,443 --> 01:00:15,012 Well, girl, you know it's true. 1125 01:00:15,112 --> 01:00:18,215 It can only mean Milli Vanilli. 1126 01:00:18,315 --> 01:00:21,585 [fanfare] 1127 01:00:21,686 --> 01:00:23,120 Hit it! 1128 01:00:23,220 --> 01:00:26,223 ["Girl You Know It's True" playing] 1129 01:00:26,323 --> 01:00:32,296 1130 01:00:32,396 --> 01:00:34,598 ♪ I'm in love with you, girl, 'cause you're on my mind ♪ 1131 01:00:34,699 --> 01:00:37,134 ♪ You're the one I think about most every time ♪ 1132 01:00:37,234 --> 01:00:39,503 ♪ And when you pack a smile in everything you do ♪ 1133 01:00:39,603 --> 01:00:41,071 Performing in front of the Grammys 1134 01:00:41,171 --> 01:00:44,308 with all those artists, that was nerve wracking. 1135 01:00:44,408 --> 01:00:47,812 - * And this is true - * Girl, you know it's true 1136 01:00:47,912 --> 01:00:51,716 All those people who spent years of their lives 1137 01:00:51,816 --> 01:00:53,250 to get to this point, 1138 01:00:53,350 --> 01:00:55,252 and we got here pretty fast. 1139 01:00:55,352 --> 01:01:00,524 1140 01:01:00,624 --> 01:01:03,593 [cheers and applause] 1141 01:01:09,399 --> 01:01:11,535 I remember sitting there, 1142 01:01:11,635 --> 01:01:14,238 and I think the entire industry knew at that time 1143 01:01:14,338 --> 01:01:16,273 that it wasn't them singing. 1144 01:01:16,373 --> 01:01:17,775 [clears throat] That was great. 1145 01:01:17,875 --> 01:01:19,944 I was actually--I was supposed to be in that number. 1146 01:01:20,044 --> 01:01:22,312 I don't know what-- [laughter] 1147 01:01:23,147 --> 01:01:25,049 When he called out the nominees, 1148 01:01:25,149 --> 01:01:27,417 you know, it was like, "Man." 1149 01:01:27,517 --> 01:01:29,319 This year, the nominees for Best New Artist 1150 01:01:29,419 --> 01:01:31,789 are making all kinds of music. 1151 01:01:31,889 --> 01:01:34,759 Each one of them express themself in a unique way 1152 01:01:34,859 --> 01:01:37,027 that commands attention. 1153 01:01:37,127 --> 01:01:40,164 Now, the nominees for Best New Artist are... 1154 01:01:41,065 --> 01:01:43,734 Do Rob and Fab deserve the Grammy? 1155 01:01:43,834 --> 01:01:45,669 Neneh Cherry. 1156 01:01:45,770 --> 01:01:47,838 That's a tough one. 1157 01:01:48,806 --> 01:01:50,975 We didn't sing on the record, so... 1158 01:01:51,075 --> 01:01:52,209 Indigo Girls. 1159 01:01:53,410 --> 01:01:54,644 No. 1160 01:01:55,412 --> 01:01:56,146 But... 1161 01:01:56,246 --> 01:01:57,948 [tense music] 1162 01:01:58,048 --> 01:01:59,483 [cheers and applause] 1163 01:01:59,583 --> 01:02:00,818 Milli Vanilli. 1164 01:02:00,918 --> 01:02:03,754 For the pain and everything that we suffered... 1165 01:02:03,854 --> 01:02:05,255 Soul II Soul. 1166 01:02:05,355 --> 01:02:07,825 And the hard work that we put into, 1167 01:02:07,925 --> 01:02:09,159 do we deserve it? 1168 01:02:09,259 --> 01:02:10,560 Tone Loc. 1169 01:02:10,660 --> 01:02:12,329 1170 01:02:12,429 --> 01:02:16,066 A very small part of me says yes. 1171 01:02:16,166 --> 01:02:18,002 1172 01:02:18,102 --> 01:02:20,337 And the Best New Artist is... 1173 01:02:20,437 --> 01:02:23,407 Rob and Fab deserved the Grammy. 1174 01:02:24,008 --> 01:02:25,075 Milli Vanilli. 1175 01:02:25,175 --> 01:02:30,247 [cheers and applause] 1176 01:02:35,219 --> 01:02:36,720 "Oh, my God." 1177 01:02:36,821 --> 01:02:39,756 Frank goes, "Now, everybody's watching." 1178 01:02:47,197 --> 01:02:50,300 [cheers and applause] 1179 01:02:51,535 --> 01:02:53,203 Uh, we want to say thank you very much, 1180 01:02:53,303 --> 01:02:55,940 but we want to say there are a lot of artists 1181 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,607 here in this room, 1182 01:02:57,707 --> 01:03:00,410 there are a lot of artists outside in the world 1183 01:03:00,510 --> 01:03:03,547 who could achieve the same award that we achieved today, 1184 01:03:03,647 --> 01:03:05,715 and it's an award for all artists in the world. 1185 01:03:05,816 --> 01:03:07,151 Thank you very much. 1186 01:03:07,251 --> 01:03:08,718 [cheers and applause] 1187 01:03:08,819 --> 01:03:11,255 Thank you. 1188 01:03:11,355 --> 01:03:13,257 It was a joke that went too far. 1189 01:03:13,357 --> 01:03:16,326 And once they crossed that line into 1190 01:03:16,426 --> 01:03:20,497 something that people really care about, 1191 01:03:20,597 --> 01:03:23,667 that was the beginning of the end for Rob and Fab. 1192 01:03:25,335 --> 01:03:27,637 Once they won the Grammy... 1193 01:03:27,737 --> 01:03:30,140 1194 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,643 Once they won the Grammy, 1195 01:03:33,743 --> 01:03:36,180 they hung they selves. 1196 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,783 [cheers fading] 1197 01:03:42,386 --> 01:03:45,489 [mysterious music] 1198 01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:49,459 1199 01:03:49,559 --> 01:03:52,262 The afterparty for the Grammys, 1200 01:03:52,362 --> 01:03:54,764 oh, man, we were already faded. 1201 01:03:54,865 --> 01:03:59,469 1202 01:03:59,569 --> 01:04:02,907 I remember having to listen to Mr. Clive Davis. 1203 01:04:03,007 --> 01:04:05,142 1204 01:04:05,242 --> 01:04:07,411 We were so high 1205 01:04:07,511 --> 01:04:09,279 that it took a lot of energy 1206 01:04:09,379 --> 01:04:12,049 to just keep the stuff together. 1207 01:04:12,149 --> 01:04:14,818 1208 01:04:14,919 --> 01:04:19,556 Frankly, Rob and Fab didn't do themselves any favors. 1209 01:04:19,656 --> 01:04:21,892 1210 01:04:21,992 --> 01:04:25,896 They were just acting arrogant and, frankly, obnoxious. 1211 01:04:39,676 --> 01:04:42,612 "I have no time. Who's Paul McCartney?" 1212 01:04:42,712 --> 01:04:45,449 [hip-hop music] 1213 01:04:45,549 --> 01:04:49,553 When they won, Rob and Fab were way up here, 1214 01:04:49,653 --> 01:04:51,821 these big stars that just won a Grammy. 1215 01:04:51,922 --> 01:04:52,990 And the bigger they got, 1216 01:04:53,090 --> 01:04:55,692 the more celebrity they became. 1217 01:04:57,327 --> 01:04:59,529 They had to have Avión in the limousine, 1218 01:04:59,629 --> 01:05:01,365 sushi in the dressing room. 1219 01:05:01,465 --> 01:05:04,168 They wanted for nothing. 1220 01:05:04,268 --> 01:05:06,803 The stardom made them crazy. 1221 01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:09,606 Rob said, "Oh, can you turn on my voice?" 1222 01:05:09,706 --> 01:05:12,509 And Frank said, "It's not your voice!" 1223 01:05:12,609 --> 01:05:15,345 Believe it. It's Brad Howell's voice. 1224 01:05:15,445 --> 01:05:19,116 He was singing with my voice during playback 1225 01:05:19,216 --> 01:05:21,251 and believing that's his own voice. 1226 01:05:21,351 --> 01:05:23,420 They were believing this. 1227 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,456 They started to forget the reality 1228 01:05:26,556 --> 01:05:28,358 that they didn't sing. 1229 01:05:28,458 --> 01:05:30,394 [tense music] 1230 01:05:30,494 --> 01:05:31,895 So they were doing this interview one time 1231 01:05:31,996 --> 01:05:33,630 and they said they were better than The Beatles. 1232 01:05:33,730 --> 01:05:38,435 1233 01:05:38,535 --> 01:05:40,304 Think about waking up every day and knowing that 1234 01:05:40,404 --> 01:05:41,805 you don't sing any of the vocals, 1235 01:05:41,905 --> 01:05:43,640 and then saying you're better than The Beatles. 1236 01:05:43,740 --> 01:05:45,875 1237 01:05:45,976 --> 01:05:48,578 I mean, that takes, like, giant stones. 1238 01:05:48,678 --> 01:05:52,082 You've really gotta believe your own bullshit to say that. 1239 01:05:52,182 --> 01:05:55,585 They got caught up in it. 1240 01:05:55,685 --> 01:05:57,988 At that point, they thought they had the power, 1241 01:05:58,088 --> 01:05:59,623 and they did, to some degree. 1242 01:05:59,723 --> 01:06:02,159 They said, you know, "We're in control now." 1243 01:06:02,259 --> 01:06:04,428 1244 01:06:04,528 --> 01:06:06,530 Millions and millions of dollars were at stake 1245 01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:09,899 and people depended on them. 1246 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,236 Frank depended on them. 1247 01:06:12,336 --> 01:06:14,438 Clive depended on them. 1248 01:06:14,538 --> 01:06:18,075 Everybody depended on Milli Vanilli doing their job. 1249 01:06:18,175 --> 01:06:20,110 1250 01:06:20,210 --> 01:06:23,447 Frank Farian was already preparing album number two, 1251 01:06:23,547 --> 01:06:25,149 "Keep On Running," and they wanted us 1252 01:06:25,249 --> 01:06:31,488 to get back to Germany to go promote the second album. 1253 01:06:31,588 --> 01:06:35,859 But Rob and Fab were done. 1254 01:06:35,959 --> 01:06:38,362 We wanted to sing. 1255 01:06:38,462 --> 01:06:40,964 We wanted to come out as singers. 1256 01:06:41,065 --> 01:06:45,369 [soft dark music] 1257 01:06:45,469 --> 01:06:49,273 At Arista, we had a weekly luncheon 1258 01:06:49,373 --> 01:06:52,142 in the conference room. 1259 01:06:52,242 --> 01:06:55,745 One day, Clive got a call and he walked into the kitchen. 1260 01:06:58,315 --> 01:07:00,050 And then came back out and he goes, 1261 01:07:00,150 --> 01:07:04,121 "They want to sing on the second album." 1262 01:07:04,221 --> 01:07:08,392 And I remember him saying, "That's not gonna happen." 1263 01:07:16,233 --> 01:07:18,535 "Oh, but I would like to sing." 1264 01:07:18,635 --> 01:07:20,570 "Yeah, Rob, it's impossible. 1265 01:07:20,670 --> 01:07:22,639 "You cannot sing and Fab cannot sing, 1266 01:07:22,739 --> 01:07:24,608 so please stop talking." 1267 01:07:26,243 --> 01:07:30,580 We couldn't continue to be his marionette. 1268 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,782 Hey, listen. [flaps lips] 1269 01:07:32,882 --> 01:07:34,551 Done with this. 1270 01:07:34,651 --> 01:07:37,187 So we started to lawyer up, 1271 01:07:37,287 --> 01:07:39,389 and then that's when we found out 1272 01:07:39,489 --> 01:07:43,927 we signed a contract for multiple albums. 1273 01:07:44,027 --> 01:07:45,862 We had no clue. 1274 01:07:45,962 --> 01:07:50,100 So to get out of under the thumb of Frank Farian, 1275 01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,002 we played a game of cat and mouse. 1276 01:07:53,103 --> 01:07:54,538 1277 01:07:54,638 --> 01:07:58,041 Our MO was to hurt him. 1278 01:07:58,142 --> 01:08:01,111 Let's push him to a brink where he's gonna break, 1279 01:08:01,211 --> 01:08:03,913 and then he's gonna say, "You know what? I'm tired. 1280 01:08:04,013 --> 01:08:05,915 Go away." 1281 01:08:06,015 --> 01:08:07,551 You know, we didn't show up to the video of 1282 01:08:07,651 --> 01:08:09,653 "Keep On Running." 1283 01:08:09,753 --> 01:08:13,323 And we told him, "More money. More money." 1284 01:08:13,423 --> 01:08:15,024 He's like, "No, I'm not doing that! 1285 01:08:15,125 --> 01:08:16,826 What else do you want?" 1286 01:08:24,168 --> 01:08:27,237 They told Frank, "If you don't give us 150,000, 1287 01:08:27,337 --> 01:08:29,439 "we will go to the producer and telling them that 1288 01:08:29,539 --> 01:08:32,108 we are not the guys who singing on the tape." 1289 01:08:53,797 --> 01:08:56,800 ["Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" playing] 1290 01:08:56,900 --> 01:09:02,506 1291 01:09:02,606 --> 01:09:05,342 The story broke in "The Los Angeles Times" 1292 01:09:05,442 --> 01:09:06,376 and all hell broke loose. 1293 01:09:06,476 --> 01:09:12,916 1294 01:09:16,686 --> 01:09:18,755 Frank threw Rob and Fab under the bus. 1295 01:09:18,855 --> 01:09:22,492 ♪ I knew it from the start, you would break my heart ♪ 1296 01:09:22,592 --> 01:09:25,762 ♪ But still, I had to play this painful part ♪ 1297 01:09:25,862 --> 01:09:28,265 ♪ You wrapped me around your little bitty finger ♪ 1298 01:09:44,814 --> 01:09:46,716 He basically brushed it off and said, 1299 01:09:46,816 --> 01:09:47,984 "You know, yeah, they didn't sing..." 1300 01:09:48,084 --> 01:09:51,154 ♪ I just don't know what I should do ♪ 1301 01:09:51,255 --> 01:09:52,956 "And who cares?" 1302 01:09:58,395 --> 01:09:59,863 Very quickly after that, 1303 01:09:59,963 --> 01:10:02,332 the whole train came off the tracks. 1304 01:10:02,432 --> 01:10:09,038 ♪ It's a tragedy for me to see the dream is over ♪ 1305 01:10:09,138 --> 01:10:12,976 ♪ And I never will forget the day we met ♪ 1306 01:10:13,076 --> 01:10:14,611 ♪ Girl, I'm gonna miss you 1307 01:10:14,711 --> 01:10:18,014 [ominous music] 1308 01:10:18,114 --> 01:10:20,550 The pop music world's in shock tonight-- 1309 01:10:20,650 --> 01:10:22,185 With the revelation that pop duo-- 1310 01:10:22,286 --> 01:10:23,520 Milli Vanilli didn't sing. 1311 01:10:23,620 --> 01:10:24,988 So, girl, you know it's not true. 1312 01:10:25,088 --> 01:10:27,957 Well, I am shocked. [audience laughs] 1313 01:10:28,057 --> 01:10:30,760 It was the lead-in story on all the news. 1314 01:10:30,860 --> 01:10:31,928 More embarrassment today 1315 01:10:32,028 --> 01:10:33,830 for the pop singing group Milli Vanilli. 1316 01:10:33,930 --> 01:10:38,502 Milli Vanilli turns out to be a lot of phony baloney. 1317 01:10:38,602 --> 01:10:41,605 And it didn't just hit America; 1318 01:10:41,705 --> 01:10:43,072 it hit worldwide. 1319 01:10:51,781 --> 01:10:53,783 One pop group this week has been involved in 1320 01:10:53,883 --> 01:10:55,385 a feverish controversy. 1321 01:10:55,485 --> 01:10:57,153 And then NARAS got involved. 1322 01:10:57,253 --> 01:10:59,689 There's too many doubts that have been cast now 1323 01:10:59,789 --> 01:11:02,826 for us not to go forward and try to find out the truth. 1324 01:11:02,926 --> 01:11:06,730 The credibility of the Grammy depends on it. 1325 01:11:06,830 --> 01:11:09,833 Having to give back their Grammy, 1326 01:11:09,933 --> 01:11:15,171 it's the only time that has happened in music history. 1327 01:11:16,340 --> 01:11:18,174 There was no recovering from that. 1328 01:11:18,274 --> 01:11:22,612 The only way that that could be ridden was to own it. 1329 01:11:22,712 --> 01:11:26,583 [indistinct chatter] 1330 01:11:26,683 --> 01:11:29,919 Robert Pilatus and Fabrice Morvan. 1331 01:11:34,424 --> 01:11:36,125 Come together. Come together. 1332 01:11:36,225 --> 01:11:38,328 - Come together, guys! - Right here! Right here! 1333 01:11:38,428 --> 01:11:40,897 - Right here. - Straight ahead. 1334 01:11:40,997 --> 01:11:43,533 Fabrice and me, we lived together in a project 1335 01:11:43,633 --> 01:11:46,102 with two other musicians in Munich. 1336 01:11:46,202 --> 01:11:48,638 We--we had nothing to eat. We weren't happy. 1337 01:11:48,738 --> 01:11:51,841 We wanted to be stars. We want to get up on top. 1338 01:11:51,941 --> 01:11:53,943 So suddenly, this guy gave us a chance and we took it. 1339 01:11:54,043 --> 01:11:55,612 He gave us a little bit money. 1340 01:11:55,712 --> 01:11:59,282 We were young, naive, and we believed him. 1341 01:11:59,383 --> 01:12:01,150 It was an opportunity for us. 1342 01:12:01,250 --> 01:12:04,220 We feel really, really sorry about our fans, 1343 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,758 but we just hope that they understand that we were young, 1344 01:12:08,858 --> 01:12:11,294 that we just wanted to live the life the American way. 1345 01:12:19,035 --> 01:12:20,737 Of course. Yeah. 1346 01:12:20,837 --> 01:12:22,772 You're absolutely right. I was seduced. 1347 01:12:22,872 --> 01:12:24,674 You have to understand we were seduced, 1348 01:12:24,774 --> 01:12:27,677 we were abused, and we felt very guilty, 1349 01:12:27,777 --> 01:12:28,845 and we're happy that it's over, you know? 1350 01:12:28,945 --> 01:12:31,047 We don't understand that it's us, 1351 01:12:31,147 --> 01:12:32,982 the two little guys from Germany, 1352 01:12:33,082 --> 01:12:35,184 the victims who has to play suddenly 1353 01:12:35,284 --> 01:12:37,921 the crux of a trial that we are not. 1354 01:12:45,862 --> 01:12:48,131 I will describe it like this. 1355 01:12:48,231 --> 01:12:49,298 You get something, 1356 01:12:49,399 --> 01:12:51,334 but for that, you make a pact with the devil. 1357 01:12:55,905 --> 01:12:57,707 I think you should go with this tape. 1358 01:12:57,807 --> 01:12:59,008 We give you each a tape. 1359 01:12:59,108 --> 01:13:01,244 You can take it to a scientist-- 1360 01:13:01,344 --> 01:13:03,513 But you could-- 1361 01:13:03,613 --> 01:13:04,748 OK, I demonstrate! 1362 01:13:04,848 --> 01:13:07,917 Fuck it. I do it. Let's do it. 1363 01:13:08,017 --> 01:13:11,421 ♪ Girl, you know it's true 1364 01:13:11,521 --> 01:13:15,925 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you 1365 01:13:16,025 --> 01:13:18,127 ♪ I'm in love with you, girl, 'cause you're on my mind ♪ 1366 01:13:18,227 --> 01:13:20,396 ♪ You're the one I think about most every time ♪ 1367 01:13:20,497 --> 01:13:23,099 ♪ When you crack a smile in everything you do ♪ 1368 01:13:27,471 --> 01:13:29,105 Yeah, I understand-- I really understand them. 1369 01:13:29,205 --> 01:13:31,107 I have to say I understand them. 1370 01:13:37,981 --> 01:13:40,917 - That's a good question, but-- - A lot of your fans-- 1371 01:13:41,017 --> 01:13:43,820 a lot of your fans will be very upset by the fact 1372 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,990 that the only way you can explain the charade, 1373 01:13:47,090 --> 01:13:49,959 the farce, the fakery of the last year, two years, 1374 01:13:50,059 --> 01:13:52,028 is money. - It's not. 1375 01:13:52,128 --> 01:13:53,730 This is fame-- - There's no other reason. 1376 01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:56,165 That's the only pressure that Farian put on you, 1377 01:13:56,265 --> 01:13:58,001 was financial-- - Do you live in a project? 1378 01:13:58,101 --> 01:13:59,836 Did you live in a project? 1379 01:13:59,936 --> 01:14:03,006 We had no money, we wanted to be stars. 1380 01:14:03,106 --> 01:14:06,275 We think we are talented. We love to be onstage. 1381 01:14:06,375 --> 01:14:08,444 That's our first aim. It wasn't money. 1382 01:14:08,545 --> 01:14:11,080 If we wouldn't have accept that at the start, 1383 01:14:11,180 --> 01:14:12,916 we knew we would be still in Munich. 1384 01:14:13,016 --> 01:14:14,317 I would still work at the McDonalds. 1385 01:14:15,585 --> 01:14:17,120 OK, thank you very much. 1386 01:14:17,487 --> 01:14:19,122 Thank you very much. 1387 01:14:27,797 --> 01:14:32,135 [indistinct chatter] 1388 01:14:41,978 --> 01:14:44,413 They ate 'em up like sharks. 1389 01:14:45,314 --> 01:14:47,951 They were the town spectacle. 1390 01:14:49,953 --> 01:14:52,088 New weasel boys of the record world. 1391 01:14:52,188 --> 01:14:54,357 Did you know they were exposed for not actually appearing on 1392 01:14:54,457 --> 01:14:55,825 their Grammy-award winning record album? 1393 01:14:55,925 --> 01:14:57,226 They do not sing... 1394 01:14:57,326 --> 01:14:58,795 - Do not sing on it at all. - On their own record. 1395 01:14:58,895 --> 01:15:01,531 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, you are through ♪ 1396 01:15:01,631 --> 01:15:03,499 [laughter] 1397 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:07,303 The response was swift and it was harsh. 1398 01:15:09,005 --> 01:15:10,874 They stopped playing on radio, 1399 01:15:10,974 --> 01:15:13,009 Arista Records took it out of circulation, 1400 01:15:13,109 --> 01:15:14,578 and then, to top it all off, 1401 01:15:14,678 --> 01:15:17,013 there were, like, two dozen class action lawsuits 1402 01:15:17,113 --> 01:15:18,715 from fans who were just pissed. 1403 01:15:18,815 --> 01:15:21,685 A California woman who bought the album for her son 1404 01:15:21,785 --> 01:15:23,519 is suing to get a refund. 1405 01:15:23,620 --> 01:15:24,821 When I listened to the music, 1406 01:15:24,921 --> 01:15:26,990 I would sort of picture them singing, 1407 01:15:27,090 --> 01:15:28,792 and that's--that's how I looked up to them. 1408 01:15:28,892 --> 01:15:31,127 They sued them for fraud and racketeering. 1409 01:15:31,227 --> 01:15:32,829 Listen carefully to this important message 1410 01:15:32,929 --> 01:15:34,197 about a pending Milli Vanilli lawsuit 1411 01:15:34,297 --> 01:15:37,133 that may affect your rights. 1412 01:15:37,233 --> 01:15:39,969 I remember being surprised by the animosity, 1413 01:15:40,069 --> 01:15:41,771 and the amount of anger behind that 1414 01:15:41,871 --> 01:15:43,840 seemed outsized for what happened. 1415 01:15:43,940 --> 01:15:45,675 I mean, Milli Vanilli, to be clear, 1416 01:15:45,775 --> 01:15:48,144 had a largely white audience, 1417 01:15:48,244 --> 01:15:51,347 so a part of the betrayal that was felt was, 1418 01:15:51,447 --> 01:15:53,116 "I can't believe I listened to these Black guys 1419 01:15:53,216 --> 01:15:54,350 singing these songs and it really wasn't them." 1420 01:15:54,450 --> 01:15:55,819 You're gonna have a movie now, 1421 01:15:55,919 --> 01:15:58,221 "The Milli Vanilli Story." Is that beautiful? 1422 01:15:58,321 --> 01:16:00,757 I play Fab, one of the dudes in Milli Vanilli. 1423 01:16:00,857 --> 01:16:04,594 - * Girl, I love you - * I love you 1424 01:16:04,694 --> 01:16:08,097 It was really ugly to see that sort of hostility 1425 01:16:08,197 --> 01:16:10,867 directed at Rob and Fab. 1426 01:16:10,967 --> 01:16:12,602 Rob Pilatus told "The LA Times" that 1427 01:16:12,702 --> 01:16:16,673 his family back in Germany was getting harassed as well. 1428 01:16:21,077 --> 01:16:23,412 Management was gone. 1429 01:16:23,512 --> 01:16:26,082 Label was gone. 1430 01:16:26,182 --> 01:16:28,451 No representative of a major record company 1431 01:16:28,551 --> 01:16:32,789 would discuss them with CNN on camera. 1432 01:16:32,889 --> 01:16:35,458 Frank came out of it unscathed. 1433 01:16:48,371 --> 01:16:52,075 Rob and Fab deserved to be called out, certainly. 1434 01:16:52,175 --> 01:16:54,678 But it was weird that people didn't come down on 1435 01:16:54,778 --> 01:16:57,714 Frank and Arista and Clive 1436 01:16:57,814 --> 01:17:00,283 in the way that you would think. 1437 01:17:00,383 --> 01:17:02,118 There was plausible deniability, I think, 1438 01:17:02,218 --> 01:17:03,586 for Arista, anyway. 1439 01:17:03,687 --> 01:17:06,322 I mean, it was easy for them to say, "We didn't know," 1440 01:17:06,422 --> 01:17:08,557 and nobody could prove that they knew it, 1441 01:17:08,658 --> 01:17:10,760 so they got off the hook. 1442 01:17:27,210 --> 01:17:28,845 I mean, I just know personally, 1443 01:17:28,945 --> 01:17:30,313 that we knew before the Grammys, 1444 01:17:30,413 --> 01:17:32,415 so there's no--there was no question about it. 1445 01:17:33,850 --> 01:17:35,184 Yeah, maybe six months before. 1446 01:17:35,284 --> 01:17:38,354 [soft tense music] 1447 01:17:38,454 --> 01:17:40,623 1448 01:17:40,724 --> 01:17:42,926 "Why didn't anybody from the label speak out," 1449 01:17:43,026 --> 01:17:44,660 is that what you're asking me? 1450 01:17:44,761 --> 01:17:46,229 Yeah. 1451 01:17:46,329 --> 01:17:48,164 That's a-- that's a good question. 1452 01:17:48,264 --> 01:17:50,166 I mean, I can't-- 1453 01:17:52,268 --> 01:17:53,770 I have to answer truthfully, 1454 01:17:53,870 --> 01:17:56,505 and I would have to say that, 1455 01:17:56,605 --> 01:18:00,343 that, yeah, I believe that Clive felt that this 1456 01:18:00,443 --> 01:18:02,445 not only wasn't good for Arista, 1457 01:18:02,545 --> 01:18:05,348 but wasn't really good for his reputation 1458 01:18:05,448 --> 01:18:07,717 and for his, you know, history. 1459 01:18:09,786 --> 01:18:13,222 The record company and industry has all of the power, 1460 01:18:13,322 --> 01:18:15,424 so they're gonna use everything they can 1461 01:18:15,524 --> 01:18:19,028 to point the direction at Rob and Fab. 1462 01:18:19,128 --> 01:18:20,764 "Don't look at, we sold these million records. 1463 01:18:20,864 --> 01:18:24,400 "Don't look at the fact that someone inside of our industry 1464 01:18:24,500 --> 01:18:27,136 "had to have known this was going on. 1465 01:18:27,236 --> 01:18:30,874 "No, it's these two guys who barely speak English. 1466 01:18:30,974 --> 01:18:33,209 It's their fault." 1467 01:18:48,124 --> 01:18:49,859 Not only did Frank have no problem 1468 01:18:49,959 --> 01:18:52,261 exploiting Rob and Fab, 1469 01:18:52,361 --> 01:18:55,999 but he also seemed to think them foolish 1470 01:18:56,099 --> 01:18:59,368 and beneath him. 1471 01:18:59,468 --> 01:19:01,737 And just like his lineage of 1472 01:19:01,838 --> 01:19:06,209 treating Black artists as disposable, 1473 01:19:06,309 --> 01:19:11,080 he chose to get what he needed and disposed of them. 1474 01:19:11,180 --> 01:19:12,581 - We regret it. - We regretted it... 1475 01:19:12,681 --> 01:19:14,017 200,000 times. 1476 01:19:14,117 --> 01:19:15,785 Lying in front of my mom, 1477 01:19:15,885 --> 01:19:17,153 lying in front of the job. 1478 01:19:17,253 --> 01:19:18,621 - Everybody. - Lying in front of everybody. 1479 01:19:18,721 --> 01:19:21,825 They were young, just like me, 1480 01:19:21,925 --> 01:19:24,861 looking to achieve something 1481 01:19:24,961 --> 01:19:27,196 in the music branch, 1482 01:19:27,296 --> 01:19:29,532 just like me. 1483 01:19:29,632 --> 01:19:32,168 So what do you do? 1484 01:19:32,268 --> 01:19:33,903 [soft resonant music] 1485 01:19:34,003 --> 01:19:39,142 You followed the light, but it's the wrong light. 1486 01:19:39,242 --> 01:19:42,846 At the end of the tunnel, the light goes out, 1487 01:19:42,946 --> 01:19:45,982 and what happens? 1488 01:19:46,082 --> 01:19:48,852 Don't nobody care. 1489 01:19:48,952 --> 01:19:50,920 1490 01:19:51,020 --> 01:19:54,590 It's just another scandal. 1491 01:19:54,690 --> 01:19:57,326 And the number one new job for Milli Vanilli, "Who cares? 1492 01:19:57,426 --> 01:20:00,429 Just as long as we don't hear from them ever again." 1493 01:20:05,268 --> 01:20:08,171 [soft music] 1494 01:20:08,271 --> 01:20:10,439 1495 01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:29,292 1496 01:20:54,283 --> 01:21:00,957 1497 01:21:02,025 --> 01:21:04,093 Just when you thought there couldn't possibly be 1498 01:21:04,193 --> 01:21:05,528 another twist to the story-- 1499 01:21:17,706 --> 01:21:20,676 So, you know, the thing about Frank, 1500 01:21:20,776 --> 01:21:22,678 he's always a step ahead of everybody, right? 1501 01:21:22,778 --> 01:21:25,148 [funky pop music] 1502 01:21:25,248 --> 01:21:27,416 He had already recorded the second record, 1503 01:21:27,516 --> 01:21:28,985 and he dropped it, 1504 01:21:29,085 --> 01:21:31,120 like, right after this whole thing blew up. 1505 01:21:31,220 --> 01:21:34,490 1506 01:21:34,590 --> 01:21:36,525 Frank Farian called me up and said, 1507 01:21:36,625 --> 01:21:40,163 "John, now you and Brad are gonna be stars of the show." 1508 01:21:40,263 --> 01:21:42,431 ♪ Elaborate on the microphone 1509 01:21:42,531 --> 01:21:44,333 ♪ Pumping some knowledge 'cause my brain ain't stoned ♪ 1510 01:21:44,433 --> 01:21:45,969 It's called The Real Milli Vanilli, 1511 01:21:46,069 --> 01:21:48,304 "The Moment of Truth." 1512 01:21:48,404 --> 01:21:52,275 But again, it's all another facade. 1513 01:21:52,375 --> 01:21:53,876 This guy was never in the band. 1514 01:21:53,977 --> 01:21:56,679 He's just another guy who Frank recruited. 1515 01:21:56,779 --> 01:21:58,781 That girl had nothing to do with the first album, 1516 01:21:58,881 --> 01:22:01,184 she had nothing to do with the second album. 1517 01:22:01,284 --> 01:22:04,820 We are still on that album, Jodie and I. 1518 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:09,292 But Frank said, no touring, no video, no being seen. 1519 01:22:09,392 --> 01:22:11,560 ♪ Listen to what he says 1520 01:22:11,660 --> 01:22:12,795 "Linda, hope you understand. 1521 01:22:12,895 --> 01:22:14,197 "I have a certain look that I want. 1522 01:22:14,297 --> 01:22:15,698 You're not Black." 1523 01:22:15,798 --> 01:22:17,900 ♪ I'm not into bragging, strutting, or bigotry ♪ 1524 01:22:18,001 --> 01:22:19,768 ♪ Or bigotry 1525 01:22:19,868 --> 01:22:22,305 Don't ask me how I felt. Well, go ahead, ask me. 1526 01:22:22,405 --> 01:22:24,173 - Yeah, how did you feel? - I felt horrible! 1527 01:22:24,273 --> 01:22:25,975 Oh, I was incensed. 1528 01:22:26,075 --> 01:22:29,712 ♪ Keep on running, baby 1529 01:22:29,812 --> 01:22:32,081 You've got to be kidding me. 1530 01:22:32,181 --> 01:22:34,883 It was almost as big a lie as the first Milli Vanilli. 1531 01:22:34,984 --> 01:22:36,485 ♪ Keep on running 1532 01:22:36,585 --> 01:22:38,988 - This was Frank's MO. - * Baby 1533 01:22:39,088 --> 01:22:40,923 He already did Boney M., 1534 01:22:41,024 --> 01:22:44,693 and then Milli Vanilli, and he's like, "Hey, man, 1535 01:22:44,793 --> 01:22:46,729 this is my 'Fast and Furious 10'." 1536 01:22:46,829 --> 01:22:48,231 I'm just gonna keep making these things 1537 01:22:48,331 --> 01:22:50,333 because you love 'em," 1538 01:22:50,433 --> 01:22:54,037 so why would he change his stripes? 1539 01:22:54,137 --> 01:22:58,007 [applause] 1540 01:22:58,107 --> 01:23:01,210 Do you know what they are doing now, Rob and Fab? 1541 01:23:01,310 --> 01:23:02,945 Well, they have a new single out-- 1542 01:23:03,046 --> 01:23:05,214 - It's not out yet. - It's not out actually. 1543 01:23:05,314 --> 01:23:06,749 They don't-- they don't have a label. 1544 01:23:06,849 --> 01:23:08,851 A lot of record companies are scared to touch them right now 1545 01:23:08,951 --> 01:23:11,120 because, well, if you know somebody can't sing, 1546 01:23:11,220 --> 01:23:12,421 why produce them? 1547 01:23:12,521 --> 01:23:14,923 So you want to sing a little bit for us? 1548 01:23:15,024 --> 01:23:17,426 Yeah, we come in here with our live band 1549 01:23:17,526 --> 01:23:18,527 and we would love to sing. 1550 01:23:18,627 --> 01:23:19,995 No, how about right now? 1551 01:23:20,096 --> 01:23:21,397 Sing something off your album. 1552 01:23:21,497 --> 01:23:23,866 - Um... - [clears throat] 1553 01:23:23,966 --> 01:23:25,768 Some of the verse from the first single? 1554 01:23:25,868 --> 01:23:28,371 Uh, yeah, OK. 1555 01:23:28,471 --> 01:23:30,973 ♪ Girl Back together. 1556 01:23:31,074 --> 01:23:32,275 ♪ Girl 1557 01:23:32,375 --> 01:23:36,512 both: ♪ Do you want to get it on 1558 01:23:36,612 --> 01:23:40,616 ♪ Then tell me now 1559 01:23:41,917 --> 01:23:44,287 Now Rob and Fab are courageously trying to 1560 01:23:44,387 --> 01:23:46,889 make a comeback, real voices and all. 1561 01:23:46,989 --> 01:23:50,193 both: * I just want to be your everything ♪ 1562 01:23:50,293 --> 01:23:52,795 For the last year, they've been working on a new album, 1563 01:23:52,895 --> 01:23:55,298 on the dance steps, and on the singing. 1564 01:23:55,398 --> 01:23:57,566 They've got a new sexy video. 1565 01:23:57,666 --> 01:24:01,537 ♪ Girl, can you tell me now 1566 01:24:01,637 --> 01:24:04,173 ♪ Straight up what's up 1567 01:24:04,273 --> 01:24:06,309 ♪ So what's a man supposed to do ♪ 1568 01:24:06,409 --> 01:24:11,714 ♪ Oh - * Do you want to get it on 1569 01:24:12,915 --> 01:24:15,551 So this is the "We Can Get It On" 1570 01:24:15,651 --> 01:24:19,222 12 inch LP single by Rob & Fab. 1571 01:24:19,322 --> 01:24:21,357 They're just, like, badasses, you know? 1572 01:24:21,457 --> 01:24:23,392 They're like, "Yeah, we're hot. We know it." 1573 01:24:23,492 --> 01:24:24,660 [laughs] 1574 01:24:26,095 --> 01:24:30,032 The expectation of the record was based on curiosity alone 1575 01:24:30,133 --> 01:24:33,702 they could sell a million copies of the record. 1576 01:24:33,802 --> 01:24:38,841 But the Rob & Fab album sold 2,000 copies worldwide, 1577 01:24:38,941 --> 01:24:42,711 which is not good. 1578 01:24:42,811 --> 01:24:45,681 By the time the Rob & Fab record came out, 1579 01:24:45,781 --> 01:24:48,016 people were just not that interested 1580 01:24:48,117 --> 01:24:49,318 in the spectacle anymore. 1581 01:24:49,418 --> 01:24:52,521 1582 01:25:07,703 --> 01:25:14,377 That's when we... grew apart. 1583 01:25:14,477 --> 01:25:18,681 Rob was going in his own tunnel 1584 01:25:18,781 --> 01:25:21,584 and didn't want to come out, really. 1585 01:25:39,568 --> 01:25:44,139 The team Rob and Fab had fractured. 1586 01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:49,612 He didn't see me as-- as his brother anymore. 1587 01:25:49,712 --> 01:25:51,980 And that hurt. 1588 01:26:24,213 --> 01:26:26,081 Now, where have you been for the past six years? 1589 01:26:26,181 --> 01:26:28,016 Well, the past six years, I was in Los Angeles 1590 01:26:28,116 --> 01:26:29,618 undercover, you know, doing my thing. 1591 01:26:29,718 --> 01:26:31,186 You have an accent. Where are you from? 1592 01:26:31,287 --> 01:26:32,187 I'm from Paris. I'm French. 1593 01:26:32,288 --> 01:26:33,522 - From Paris. - Yeah. 1594 01:26:33,622 --> 01:26:35,258 Now, listen, you've got some new music... 1595 01:26:35,358 --> 01:26:36,625 That's true, yeah. 1596 01:26:36,725 --> 01:26:38,794 And you are actually singing on this damn thing. 1597 01:26:38,894 --> 01:26:40,663 - That's right. - Yeah. 1598 01:26:40,763 --> 01:26:42,865 Put it together for Fabrice Morvan. 1599 01:26:42,965 --> 01:26:44,667 ["Love Revolution" playing] 1600 01:26:44,767 --> 01:26:47,736 ♪ Come on, children 1601 01:26:47,836 --> 01:26:50,473 both: ♪ If you see what I see 1602 01:26:50,573 --> 01:26:52,875 ♪ And you know what I feel 1603 01:26:52,975 --> 01:26:55,010 For me, performing was vindication. 1604 01:26:55,110 --> 01:26:58,647 both: ♪ And we'll find a solution 1605 01:26:58,747 --> 01:27:01,750 I was able to, like, blossom as a singer 1606 01:27:01,850 --> 01:27:04,086 and do what I was supposed to do in the first place. 1607 01:27:04,186 --> 01:27:10,293 ♪ Everybody, join the love revolution ♪ 1608 01:27:10,393 --> 01:27:12,495 [cheers and applause] 1609 01:27:12,595 --> 01:27:14,297 - Lovely! - Come on. 1610 01:27:14,397 --> 01:27:15,664 - Hi, baby. - Hi. 1611 01:27:15,764 --> 01:27:18,133 Hey, listen. Do you ever see Rob anymore? 1612 01:27:18,233 --> 01:27:20,469 Well, we don't talk as much as we used to 1613 01:27:20,569 --> 01:27:21,604 because he's doing his own thing, 1614 01:27:21,704 --> 01:27:22,738 I'm doing my own thing, you know? 1615 01:27:22,838 --> 01:27:24,172 We kind of went apart, you know? 1616 01:27:24,273 --> 01:27:26,041 Bands broke up and they do their own thing. 1617 01:27:26,141 --> 01:27:27,376 - Sure. - That's what happened. 1618 01:27:27,476 --> 01:27:28,677 You done joined the love revolution. 1619 01:27:28,777 --> 01:27:30,579 - That's right. - Where do I sign up? 1620 01:27:30,679 --> 01:27:33,516 [soft dramatic music] 1621 01:27:33,616 --> 01:27:35,584 1622 01:27:35,684 --> 01:27:40,022 I was at The Viper Room. 1623 01:27:40,122 --> 01:27:42,825 I was outside. 1624 01:27:42,925 --> 01:27:47,530 I see a dude stumbling across the way. 1625 01:27:47,630 --> 01:27:50,533 As he was falling, his body turned 1626 01:27:50,633 --> 01:27:52,835 and I looked into his eyes and I was like, 1627 01:27:52,935 --> 01:27:55,270 "Oh, my God. This is not true." 1628 01:27:57,906 --> 01:28:01,677 I'm looking at Rob Pilatus. 1629 01:28:01,777 --> 01:28:03,446 So I crossed the street, 1630 01:28:03,546 --> 01:28:04,780 I picked him up, 1631 01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:09,184 and I said, "Hey, Rob. It's Fab." 1632 01:28:10,786 --> 01:28:12,555 "Rob, it's Fab. 1633 01:28:12,655 --> 01:28:14,923 Where do you live?" 1634 01:28:15,023 --> 01:28:18,126 And then he said, "There. 1635 01:28:19,528 --> 01:28:22,064 So we ring the doorbell. 1636 01:28:22,164 --> 01:28:23,732 We're like, "Hey, we're there with Rob. 1637 01:28:23,832 --> 01:28:26,602 Like, this is where he live, yes?" 1638 01:28:26,702 --> 01:28:29,004 "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bring him in. 1639 01:28:29,104 --> 01:28:30,673 "It's our boy, man. We--you know, 1640 01:28:30,773 --> 01:28:33,108 he--sometimes, he just wanders." 1641 01:28:33,208 --> 01:28:35,378 And I'm like, "Oh, that looks like 1642 01:28:35,478 --> 01:28:36,645 a crack house to me, man." 1643 01:28:36,745 --> 01:28:38,847 1644 01:28:38,947 --> 01:28:43,318 They were doing heavy drugs in that--in that room. 1645 01:28:45,087 --> 01:28:49,725 I'm not surprised 'cause I heard 1646 01:28:49,825 --> 01:28:52,395 that's what he's been doing for a long time. 1647 01:28:52,495 --> 01:28:55,297 But to actually see 1648 01:28:55,398 --> 01:28:58,534 my brother in the street 1649 01:28:58,634 --> 01:29:00,969 looking like this, 1650 01:29:01,069 --> 01:29:04,673 and looking back at my dude in his prime... 1651 01:29:04,773 --> 01:29:08,711 1652 01:29:08,811 --> 01:29:12,548 Man, it was like, "Phew." 1653 01:29:12,648 --> 01:29:16,218 I didn't know what to say. 1654 01:29:32,601 --> 01:29:35,438 [soft dramatic music] 1655 01:29:35,538 --> 01:29:42,344 1656 01:29:57,325 --> 01:29:59,528 What'd they do? They just pulled you over? 1657 01:29:59,628 --> 01:30:01,096 Yeah, they pulled me over, man. 1658 01:30:01,196 --> 01:30:02,465 Unfortunately. 1659 01:30:13,108 --> 01:30:16,211 He was lost. Everything had failed. 1660 01:30:16,311 --> 01:30:19,414 He had not been satisfied with anything that he'd ever done. 1661 01:30:38,233 --> 01:30:41,203 1662 01:31:26,982 --> 01:31:30,418 He came back from Oberberg Clinic 1663 01:31:30,519 --> 01:31:35,423 and he stayed at a hotel close to my house. 1664 01:31:35,524 --> 01:31:38,393 Next morning, 10:00, I called, no answer. 1665 01:31:38,493 --> 01:31:39,628 11:00, no answer. 1666 01:31:39,728 --> 01:31:41,463 12:00, no answer. 1667 01:31:43,165 --> 01:31:46,001 At 2:00, I said, "I'm going to the hotel right now." 1668 01:31:46,101 --> 01:31:50,005 And we go to his door 1669 01:31:50,105 --> 01:31:52,675 and the chain was from inside, 1670 01:31:52,775 --> 01:31:56,244 so the house master has to open it. 1671 01:31:58,581 --> 01:32:02,918 And--and he was laying there on--on the floor, 1672 01:32:03,018 --> 01:32:06,922 just with shorts. 1673 01:32:09,725 --> 01:32:11,193 Yeah. 1674 01:32:11,293 --> 01:32:12,661 And I was... 1675 01:32:52,935 --> 01:32:54,670 The call came in. 1676 01:32:54,770 --> 01:32:56,972 "Rob is dead." 1677 01:32:57,973 --> 01:33:00,108 I was like, "Wow." 1678 01:33:00,208 --> 01:33:04,512 And then I went into, like, a state of shock. 1679 01:33:04,613 --> 01:33:08,450 And I didn't move for a long time. 1680 01:33:14,823 --> 01:33:17,660 [somber music] 1681 01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:24,733 1682 01:34:16,985 --> 01:34:24,159 1683 01:34:29,231 --> 01:34:31,666 I lost a family member. 1684 01:34:31,767 --> 01:34:33,869 1685 01:34:33,969 --> 01:34:35,804 I lost a brother. 1686 01:34:35,904 --> 01:34:39,007 1687 01:34:39,107 --> 01:34:43,678 I lost someone that was there with me, walking in my shoes. 1688 01:34:43,779 --> 01:34:48,083 1689 01:34:48,183 --> 01:34:50,652 [softly] You know? 1690 01:34:50,753 --> 01:34:52,454 [sniffles, chuckles softly] 1691 01:34:54,556 --> 01:34:56,191 That's it. 1692 01:35:13,876 --> 01:35:17,980 When I went to Holland, 1693 01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,249 I was running away from my past. 1694 01:35:24,686 --> 01:35:28,090 He'd introduced himself as Fabrice, 1695 01:35:28,190 --> 01:35:31,393 but I didn't know who he was. 1696 01:35:33,428 --> 01:35:35,230 He had such short hair, 1697 01:35:35,330 --> 01:35:39,167 and he has a different face when he has short hair. 1698 01:35:39,267 --> 01:35:40,936 So in the beginning, actually, when we were dating, 1699 01:35:41,036 --> 01:35:42,604 people were like, "Hey, Tessa, hey, Tessa." 1700 01:35:42,704 --> 01:35:44,739 "Hey, I'll see you tomorrow," and, you know, 1701 01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:46,208 I was the one being recognized. 1702 01:35:46,308 --> 01:35:51,579 So there was no signs that he was Milli Vanilli. 1703 01:35:51,679 --> 01:35:53,782 [soft music] 1704 01:35:53,882 --> 01:35:55,283 We had just fun together, 1705 01:35:55,383 --> 01:35:56,751 and we were working out together, 1706 01:35:56,852 --> 01:35:59,287 and we had those dates. 1707 01:35:59,387 --> 01:36:01,356 I start to really like this guy, 1708 01:36:01,456 --> 01:36:03,091 and you talk with your friends about, 1709 01:36:03,191 --> 01:36:06,328 you know, your new dating experience. 1710 01:36:06,428 --> 01:36:08,696 One of them said, "Dude, that's Milli Vanilli. 1711 01:36:08,797 --> 01:36:10,198 Hello." [chuckles] 1712 01:36:10,298 --> 01:36:11,766 And I was like, "Well, OK. 1713 01:36:11,867 --> 01:36:13,401 "If that's Milli Vanilli, fine, 1714 01:36:13,501 --> 01:36:15,437 because I like Fabrice, so..." 1715 01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:24,579 I didn't think she would, like, want to be with me. 1716 01:36:24,679 --> 01:36:29,117 I had to tell her, "Listen, my life is not great." 1717 01:36:29,217 --> 01:36:31,987 I was like, "Well, don't worry, you know? 1718 01:36:32,087 --> 01:36:33,755 I got you." 1719 01:36:33,856 --> 01:36:36,825 [pan sizzling] 1720 01:36:38,827 --> 01:36:39,962 You already, Sach? 1721 01:36:40,062 --> 01:36:41,129 Drum roll. 1722 01:36:41,229 --> 01:36:43,731 One, two, and three. 1723 01:36:43,832 --> 01:36:46,668 Flip! - Oh! 1724 01:36:46,768 --> 01:36:48,871 When Sacha came, 1725 01:36:48,971 --> 01:36:51,206 when Solange came, 1726 01:36:51,306 --> 01:36:56,544 and now Vince and Paris came, 1727 01:36:56,644 --> 01:36:59,347 then things started flourishing all around me. 1728 01:36:59,447 --> 01:37:01,216 What? - Hey, Sacha, look! 1729 01:37:01,316 --> 01:37:02,717 He's holding the bottle. - [giggles] 1730 01:37:02,817 --> 01:37:04,352 That's a first. 1731 01:37:04,452 --> 01:37:06,588 Look at that. - Cute. 1732 01:37:06,688 --> 01:37:09,091 [laughter] 1733 01:37:09,191 --> 01:37:11,493 It's amazing 1734 01:37:11,593 --> 01:37:14,829 to realize that there is another side 1735 01:37:14,930 --> 01:37:16,965 at the end of the tunnel. 1736 01:37:17,065 --> 01:37:18,833 - Together. - Together? 1737 01:37:18,934 --> 01:37:22,104 - Pink. - You want pink? OK. 1738 01:37:22,204 --> 01:37:24,372 It changed everything for me, 1739 01:37:24,472 --> 01:37:26,774 and that part was like, "Hey..." 1740 01:37:26,875 --> 01:37:28,276 Well done, Sach. 1741 01:37:28,376 --> 01:37:32,047 "You don't have to be ashamed about nothing." 1742 01:37:32,147 --> 01:37:38,653 1743 01:37:39,821 --> 01:37:41,389 Because of the way human beings and 1744 01:37:41,489 --> 01:37:44,526 their minds are built, 1745 01:37:44,626 --> 01:37:49,731 Milli Vanilli's legacy is they deceived the public 1746 01:37:49,831 --> 01:37:53,668 and tried to get away with it, and then they didn't. 1747 01:37:53,768 --> 01:37:58,006 But what it should be is a cautionary tale. 1748 01:37:58,106 --> 01:38:00,909 1749 01:38:01,009 --> 01:38:04,212 All of the answers about how pop music is made 1750 01:38:04,312 --> 01:38:07,882 rest in this story. 1751 01:38:07,983 --> 01:38:12,154 What we want to believe our pop musicians to be 1752 01:38:12,254 --> 01:38:13,688 versus what they actually are. 1753 01:38:13,788 --> 01:38:17,425 1754 01:38:17,525 --> 01:38:22,664 Show business is all part of an illusion. 1755 01:38:22,764 --> 01:38:26,168 But that is what pop music is supposed to do. 1756 01:38:26,268 --> 01:38:28,971 It's supposed to take us to an elsewhere. 1757 01:38:29,071 --> 01:38:31,373 1758 01:38:31,473 --> 01:38:35,143 Even if we say, "These people deceived the public," 1759 01:38:35,243 --> 01:38:36,878 so fucking what? 1760 01:38:36,979 --> 01:38:38,913 [cheers and applause] 1761 01:38:39,014 --> 01:38:40,582 Who was this harming? 1762 01:38:40,682 --> 01:38:45,153 1763 01:38:45,253 --> 01:38:48,490 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you 1764 01:38:48,590 --> 01:38:51,059 I've met people that told me, 1765 01:38:51,159 --> 01:38:53,495 "Because of your voice, 1766 01:38:53,595 --> 01:38:56,064 my daughter's here today." [chuckles] 1767 01:38:57,599 --> 01:39:00,902 It was such a big thing for a lot of people. 1768 01:39:01,003 --> 01:39:05,173 So many people went to their high school prom with that. 1769 01:39:05,273 --> 01:39:08,043 That was good music, 1770 01:39:08,143 --> 01:39:09,544 and it's good music today. 1771 01:39:09,644 --> 01:39:11,946 [cheers and applause] 1772 01:39:12,047 --> 01:39:14,216 There's no real crime here, 1773 01:39:14,316 --> 01:39:15,317 if we're being honest. 1774 01:39:15,417 --> 01:39:19,021 1775 01:39:19,121 --> 01:39:21,023 But it cost a life. 1776 01:39:21,123 --> 01:39:24,426 1777 01:39:24,526 --> 01:39:29,664 It also cost both of them lives that they could have had. 1778 01:39:29,764 --> 01:39:33,568 1779 01:39:33,668 --> 01:39:38,240 And the heartbreaking thing is that their legacy then became 1780 01:39:38,340 --> 01:39:40,675 that of a punch line. 1781 01:39:40,775 --> 01:39:46,948 1782 01:39:48,016 --> 01:39:54,422 There was a time when I would avoid going in public 1783 01:39:54,522 --> 01:39:59,661 because when I heard someone laugh, 1784 01:39:59,761 --> 01:40:02,930 I always thought it was directed to me. 1785 01:40:03,031 --> 01:40:06,134 1786 01:40:06,234 --> 01:40:11,873 But now I've reached a point where I've embraced the past. 1787 01:40:14,909 --> 01:40:19,047 I'm proud of being Milli Vanilli. 1788 01:40:19,147 --> 01:40:21,783 I'm proud of being who I am. 1789 01:40:23,118 --> 01:40:29,524 1790 01:40:29,624 --> 01:40:32,660 We're going back down memory lane with some more. 1791 01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:35,097 ["Blame It On The Rain" playing] 1792 01:40:35,197 --> 01:40:37,765 ♪ Woo 1793 01:40:37,865 --> 01:40:39,601 1794 01:40:39,701 --> 01:40:42,003 ♪ Got to blame it on something ♪ 1795 01:40:42,104 --> 01:40:45,607 ♪ Got to blame it on something, come on ♪ 1796 01:40:45,707 --> 01:40:50,578 ♪ Blame it on the rain that was falling, falling ♪ 1797 01:40:50,678 --> 01:40:55,683 ♪ Blame it on the stars that didn't shine that night ♪ 1798 01:40:55,783 --> 01:41:00,722 ♪ Whatever you do, don't put the blame on you ♪ 1799 01:41:00,822 --> 01:41:04,526 ♪ Blame it on the rain, yeah, yeah ♪ 1800 01:41:04,626 --> 01:41:06,561 When people think of Milli Vanilli... 1801 01:41:06,661 --> 01:41:07,995 ♪ You can blame it on the rain ♪ 1802 01:41:08,096 --> 01:41:10,798 The one thing I want people to think of is that 1803 01:41:10,898 --> 01:41:11,733 when you fall... 1804 01:41:11,833 --> 01:41:13,335 ♪ And the rain don't care 1805 01:41:13,435 --> 01:41:14,736 You can stand back up. 1806 01:41:14,836 --> 01:41:18,206 ♪ You got to blame it on something ♪ 1807 01:41:18,306 --> 01:41:20,208 ♪ Blame it on the rain 1808 01:41:20,308 --> 01:41:24,546 And Rob is part of that. 1809 01:41:24,646 --> 01:41:28,216 I am honoring his name every time I perform onstage. 1810 01:41:28,316 --> 01:41:32,687 ♪ Whatever you do, don't put the blame on you ♪ 1811 01:41:32,787 --> 01:41:36,124 You fall, you stand back up, and you reinvent yourself. 1812 01:41:36,224 --> 01:41:40,562 ♪ Yeah, yeah 1813 01:41:40,662 --> 01:41:42,997 That's the legacy. 1814 01:41:43,097 --> 01:41:48,203 ♪ Blame it on the rain that was falling, falling ♪ 1815 01:41:48,303 --> 01:41:50,372 crowd: ♪ Blame it on the stars 1816 01:41:50,472 --> 01:41:52,974 ♪ That didn't shine that night ♪ 1817 01:41:53,074 --> 01:41:58,380 ♪ Whatever you do, don't put the blame on you ♪ 1818 01:41:58,480 --> 01:42:02,016 ♪ Blame it on the rain 1819 01:42:02,116 --> 01:42:07,489 ♪ Yeah, yeah 1820 01:42:10,192 --> 01:42:13,195 ["Baby Don't Forget My Number" playing] 1821 01:42:13,295 --> 01:42:20,235 1822 01:42:38,686 --> 01:42:40,855 ♪ Baby, don't be shy when you're holding my hand ♪ 1823 01:42:40,955 --> 01:42:43,325 ♪ 'Cause as time goes by, you got to understand ♪ 1824 01:42:43,425 --> 01:42:45,159 ♪ It's you 1825 01:42:45,260 --> 01:42:47,929 ♪ That it's with you 1826 01:42:48,029 --> 01:42:50,432 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba baby, in your eyes I see it so clearly ♪ 1827 01:42:50,532 --> 01:42:53,935 ♪ That our love is so strong and you never go wrong ♪ 1828 01:42:54,035 --> 01:42:57,705 - * Baby - * I did the best for you 1829 01:42:57,805 --> 01:43:00,007 ♪ So when you're in doubt and you're needing someone ♪ 1830 01:43:00,107 --> 01:43:03,611 ♪ Baby, call my line, call me anytime ♪ 1831 01:43:03,711 --> 01:43:06,047 - * Baby - * I'll be there for you 1832 01:43:06,147 --> 01:43:08,216 1833 01:43:08,316 --> 01:43:13,288 ♪ I've been searching high - * High 1834 01:43:13,388 --> 01:43:15,523 ♪ I've been searching low 1835 01:43:15,623 --> 01:43:17,259 1836 01:43:17,359 --> 01:43:18,560 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba 1837 01:43:18,660 --> 01:43:22,397 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba baby 1838 01:43:22,497 --> 01:43:26,801 ♪ Don't forget my number 1839 01:43:26,901 --> 01:43:32,006 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba-ba baby ♪ 1840 01:43:32,106 --> 01:43:36,478 ♪ Love is stronger than thunder ♪ 1841 01:43:36,578 --> 01:43:41,416 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba-ba baby ♪ 1842 01:43:41,516 --> 01:43:46,321 ♪ Don't forget my number 1843 01:43:46,421 --> 01:43:50,625 ♪ Love will see you through 1844 01:43:50,725 --> 01:43:55,363 ♪ I've been searching high 1845 01:43:55,463 --> 01:44:00,802 ♪ I've been searching low 1846 01:44:00,902 --> 01:44:04,205 ♪ Want to spend my life 1847 01:44:04,306 --> 01:44:08,209 ♪ With you 1848 01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:10,445 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba 1849 01:44:10,545 --> 01:44:12,847 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba ba-ba 1850 01:44:12,947 --> 01:44:15,350 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba 1851 01:44:15,450 --> 01:44:17,619 ♪ And I dance with you 1852 01:44:17,719 --> 01:44:19,921 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba 1853 01:44:20,021 --> 01:44:22,457 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba ba-ba 1854 01:44:22,557 --> 01:44:24,626 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba 1855 01:44:24,726 --> 01:44:28,262 ♪ Love will see you through 1856 01:44:28,363 --> 01:44:30,865 ♪ Ba-ba-ba baby, in your eyes I can it so good ♪ 1857 01:44:30,965 --> 01:44:34,302 ♪ That our love is so strong and you never go wrong ♪ 1858 01:44:34,402 --> 01:44:38,005 - * Baby - * I do my best for you 1859 01:44:38,105 --> 01:44:40,274 ♪ So when you're in doubt and you're needing someone ♪ 1860 01:44:40,375 --> 01:44:43,978 ♪ Baby, call my line, call me anytime ♪ 1861 01:44:44,078 --> 01:44:46,314 - * Baby - * I'll be there for you 1862 01:44:46,414 --> 01:44:48,583 ♪ You, you 1863 01:44:48,683 --> 01:44:53,287 ♪ I've been searching high - * High 1864 01:44:53,388 --> 01:44:57,692 - * I've been searching low - * Low 1865 01:44:57,792 --> 01:44:58,693 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba 1866 01:44:58,793 --> 01:45:02,730 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba baby 1867 01:45:02,830 --> 01:45:07,268 ♪ Don't forget my number 1868 01:45:07,369 --> 01:45:08,536 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba 1869 01:45:08,636 --> 01:45:12,239 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba baby 1870 01:45:12,340 --> 01:45:16,644 ♪ Love is stronger than thunder ♪ 1871 01:45:16,744 --> 01:45:17,912 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba 1872 01:45:18,012 --> 01:45:21,883 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba baby 1873 01:45:21,983 --> 01:45:26,588 ♪ Don't forget my number 1874 01:45:26,688 --> 01:45:30,825 ♪ Love will see you through 1875 01:45:30,925 --> 01:45:34,061 ♪ I've been searching high 1876 01:45:34,161 --> 01:45:35,630 1877 01:45:35,730 --> 01:45:41,369 ♪ I've been searching low 1878 01:45:41,469 --> 01:45:44,506 ♪ Want to spend my life 1879 01:45:44,606 --> 01:45:48,543 ♪ With you 1880 01:45:48,643 --> 01:45:50,812 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba 1881 01:45:50,912 --> 01:45:53,314 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba ba-ba 1882 01:45:53,415 --> 01:45:55,049 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba 1883 01:45:55,149 --> 01:45:59,587 ♪ Love will see you through 1884 01:45:59,687 --> 01:46:03,958 ♪ [vocalizing] 1885 01:46:04,058 --> 01:46:06,494 ♪ Baby, call my line, baby, call my line ♪ 1886 01:46:06,594 --> 01:46:08,763 ♪ [vocalizing] 1887 01:46:08,863 --> 01:46:11,433 ♪ Call me anytime 1888 01:46:11,533 --> 01:46:12,867 ♪ [vocalizing] 1889 01:46:12,967 --> 01:46:16,871 ♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba baby 1890 01:46:16,971 --> 01:46:21,643 ♪ Don't forget my number 1891 01:46:21,743 --> 01:46:24,579 ♪ Love will see you through 1892 01:46:24,679 --> 01:46:26,814 - Is Eddie OK? - I don't know.