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♪ MTV
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We shouldn't concentrate too
much on superstar, you know?
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It's a very dangerous thing
to talk about.
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I know--I know a lot
of superstars...
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- Yeah.
- And I look back
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and I see--I don't see them
now, you know?
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So the same could
happen with us.
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♪ Girl, you know it,
girl, you know it ♪
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♪ Girl, you know it's true
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Milli Vanilli,
the striking European duo,
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has made it big in America.
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First album went six times
platinum in 1989.
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It's quite a weird story.
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One minute,
Milli Vanilli were there...
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- Milli Vanilli.
- Milli Vanilli.
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- Milli--
- Milli--
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- Milli--
- Vanilli!
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And the next minute,
they weren't.
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New weasel boys of
the record world.
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Everybody participated,
but they were the scapegoats.
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Record companies are oddly
silent on the whole issue.
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People don't understand
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the machine that is
underneath a pop act.
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We want to say thank you
to our producer.
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The evil genius,
I guess we could call him.
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If it wasn't for him,
this would not even take place.
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You get something,
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but for that, you make
a pact with the devil.
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Imagine you have everything...
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The fame, the fortune.
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They were in a dream.
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And suddenly,
everybody turns against you
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and you have nothing. Overnight.
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How do you handle that?
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It cost them everything.
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There is not another story
like this
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in pop music history.
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It's been a while.
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Oh!
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Yeah, man, we were
young and fresh, man.
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That's a normal tank top but
I think he just pulled on it.
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You know, I mean,
we were fashion forward.
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That was a big show in Germany.
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Yeah, that was a cool vibe.
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Hmm.
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You know, Rob Pilatus doesn't
look right in this photo.
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I can see the decline.
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'Cause that's not
what Rob looked like
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or was supposed to look like.
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He was extremely strong,
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but you can tell that
life took a toll on him.
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Becoming friends
was inevitable.
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I grew up in Paris.
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When I turned 18,
I went to Munich, Germany,
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ran out of money,
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ended up being homeless for
a couple weeks.
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It was cold so I had to
sleep in the train station,
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but I was able to
get some jobs
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teaching classes
with dance school,
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'cause that was my background
in Paris.
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And then one day,
I went to a party in Munich
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and there he was,
Mr. Rob Pilatus.
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He was a break-dancer.
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He was onstage
doing the helicopter.
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At the end,
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when everybody gave him
his props and everything,
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he saw me and he was like,
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"Who the hell are you?
That's my turf!"
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Because there were not
many Black people
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in Munich at the time.
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Rob and I were the only
dark-skinned people.
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There were none.
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Rob was older than me
by two years.
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He had an infectious laugh--
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Like, really loud, you know?
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I was socially awkward.
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You know, I was shy and
I was not fluent in German.
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It was like big brother,
little brother.
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He became my best friend.
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But I felt like there was
something inside of him
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that was--that was missing.
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Every time we talked about
that period of his life,
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it was kind of like taboo,
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but I understood his pain.
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Growing up, my family
was so dysfunctional.
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It was an abusive environment,
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and I ran away.
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So, just like me,
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he was looking for a family.
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We moved in together in
an attic of a friend of his.
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Rob would take the bed,
I would take the sofa.
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But there was, like,
a stereo system,
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and that thing was on all day.
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Music always
pulled us together.
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We both liked dancing,
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we were very social people,
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so we started throwing
parties together.
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And they were packed.
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The girls were beautiful.
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You know, we had a DJ,
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and we brought the vibe.
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You know, a circle
would be happening.
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Rob doing break dancing,
and when he was done,
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I would come in
and I would pop, lock,
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bam, bam, bam!
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And it brought
a lot of attention.
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So we started doing shows
in this club, Piantz.
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We loved to entertain
people, like,
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make people like, "Aw, yeah!"
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We loved that energy,
that roar,
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and we wanna do more of this.
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And the dream was to do
what we did in the club,
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sing, perform, live the life,
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to become the biggest pop stars
in the world!
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♪ Hot girl, hot girl
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♪ I'm satisfaction, baby
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♪ Hot girl, hot girl
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We started dancing
for this TV show.
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♪ Hot girl
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We danced behind pop stars
of the '80s.
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We ended up modeling as well.
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We did some catalog.
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We were making a lot of noise
in Munich at that time,
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but it was like, how do
we get to the next level?
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In order to become pop stars,
we had to have the look,
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so we had to study
what makes a superstar.
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And one thing we noticed was
the hair.
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I know Elvis' hair.
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I know Bob Marley's hair.
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Marilyn Monroe.
Michael Jackson.
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You could put, like, a shadow,
and you knew who that was.
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We were like,
"Hell yeah, we're doing this."
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And the hair came...
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Like that.
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Hoo!
The reactions were amazing.
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Every time we went to
the clubs,
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girls loved the hair,
loved the clothing--
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they loved Rob and Fab.
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♪ Go to the dance floor,
dansez ♪
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♪ Voulez vous, dansez
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We put a band together,
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Empire Bizarre...
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♪ Hey
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And we played a few gigs.
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We gave tapes to people.
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We knew we were gonna be big.
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♪ Dansez
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Since we were
spreading the word
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of us getting into
the music industry,
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we were starting to
get approached by people.
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So one day, this guy came to
Rob and said, "Hey, you know,
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we're gonna connect you with
Frank Farian."
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Rob played cool to the dude,
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but to me, he was like,
"Oh, my God!
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Oh, Frank Farian!
You know this?" I didn't know.
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Rob told me,
"Hey, Frank Farian,
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he did Boney M."
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I was like,
"Oh, wow, that's--that's big"
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because Boney M., obviously,
was a huge group.
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♪ There lived a certain man
in Russia long ago ♪
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♪ He was big and strong,
in his eyes a flaming glow ♪
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Boney M. were a big hit
disco group in the '70s...
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Boney M.!
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- And they were huge worldwide.
- Huge!
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♪ He could preach the Bible
like a preacher ♪
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♪ Full of ecstasy
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Boney M. sold 80 million records.
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They had a number of
number one hits.
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"Rivers of Babylon."
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- "Daddy Cool."
- "Sunny."
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I love the song "Ma Baker."
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Ra, ra, Rasputin.
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♪ Ra, ra, Rasputin,
lover of the Russian queen ♪
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A bananas song
and it's about Rasputin.
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Mysterious figure
in czarist Russia.
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When you watch video
of Boney M.
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and you see Bobby Farrell,
you're like,
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"Wow, that dude is awesome."
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It was on the radio,
at parties.
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Boney M. made music that
you could dance to
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and get drunk to and have fun.
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But how did you four people
get together to form Boney M.?
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Well, it all came about from
our producer Frank Farian.
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If you work with
Frank Farian,
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that's a high level guy.
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We realized that this could be
the one we've been waiting for,
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so we went to Frankfurt.
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Frank Farian's
compound was huge.
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And when they opened the door,
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we were greeted by all those
gold records on the wall,
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and it was amazing.
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It was the kind of stuff that
you saw with Quincy Jones.
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100 tracks, Neve console, microphones.
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It was incredible!
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Frank and his secretary,
Ingrid Segieth,
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they said,
"We're working on a project
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and we're thinking that
you could be good for it,"
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if we were interested.
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Hell, yeah, we were interested.
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Ingrid brought in
the recording contract,
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and we never really
attempted to read it.
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We were not trying to say no
to this powerful producer.
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Also, we would get, like,
1,500 deutschmark each,
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and we were like,
"Oh, hell yeah. Where? OK."
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When we signed that contract,
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we toasted.
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We were, like, breaking bread.
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But then Frank leaned over
to Rob and told him,
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"Don't fuck with me.
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Don't ever fuck with me."
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Several months went by.
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They never gave us
any information.
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That was driving us crazy.
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Like, why don't
they tell us, like,
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a date where we can come
to do the vocals,
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or like, when do
we get started?
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Finally, Ingrid called.
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"Come to studio.
It's gonna be good."
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Oh, man, we were pumped.
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We went straight to
the studio.
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And then once everyone is
in the room,
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he plays a tune.
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I couldn't believe that
this music was for us.
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I saw colors.
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I saw us onstage
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singing in front of a crowd.
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And then when
the music stopped...
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It was like, wow.
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You could still
hear those bells--
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ding, ding, ding, ding.
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He turned, and then,
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you know, "folgen Sie mir."
You know, "follow me."
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It felt serious.
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And then we end up
in this dark room.
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Rob and Frank start talking
really fast in German,
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so I can't really understand everything,
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but I can tell, like,
it's getting intense.
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Like, they raise their voices.
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Rob is looking at me with
his green eyes.
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Like, he looks pissed.
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Frank leaves and screams,
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and then Rob turns to me, saying,
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"They don't want us to sing
on this record."
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And I'm like, like--
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So, I'm trying to speak.
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I'm trying to talk to him
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and trying to get
as much information,
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but he was like,
"Just wait, wait.
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"They don't want us to sing!
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They want us to
lip-sync the song."
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I'm like, "What?"
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Why in the hell?
Like, he's playing us a song.
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I'm trying to understand,
like, what do you mean?
256
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I don't get it.
257
00:16:36,055 --> 00:16:38,090
And that's where I--I--
I black out.
258
00:16:43,196 --> 00:16:45,298
I remember thinking,
"This is weird.
259
00:16:45,398 --> 00:16:47,900
Like, we don't want to
lip-sync."
260
00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,605
That's when Ingrid
gave us the options.
261
00:16:54,207 --> 00:16:58,645
What she conveyed to us
clearly is that
262
00:16:58,745 --> 00:17:02,682
we signed the contract,
we got money--
263
00:17:02,782 --> 00:17:06,052
if we didn't want to
take part,
264
00:17:06,152 --> 00:17:08,421
we have to pay them back.
265
00:17:08,521 --> 00:17:10,089
But Ingrid said,
266
00:17:10,189 --> 00:17:13,192
"It's not just the advance
that we paid you,
267
00:17:13,293 --> 00:17:15,194
"but also all the money that
we gave you
268
00:17:15,295 --> 00:17:17,564
through the months."
269
00:17:17,664 --> 00:17:20,132
We developed a debt
towards Frank Farian.
270
00:17:22,569 --> 00:17:25,037
We were scared as hell.
271
00:17:25,137 --> 00:17:28,541
I was 21 years old
and Rob was 24.
272
00:17:32,312 --> 00:17:34,747
We had nowhere to go.
273
00:17:34,847 --> 00:17:37,684
So we thought,
OK, it's one song.
274
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You do that and you're out.
275
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♪ Sunny
276
00:17:59,806 --> 00:18:04,544
♪ Yesterday, my life was
filled with rain ♪
277
00:18:04,644 --> 00:18:07,213
♪ Sunny
278
00:18:07,314 --> 00:18:12,285
♪ You smiled at me and
really eased the pain ♪
279
00:18:12,385 --> 00:18:13,586
♪ Sunny
280
00:18:22,695 --> 00:18:25,532
Hold on.
281
00:18:25,632 --> 00:18:28,935
I should not be so funny.
282
00:18:29,035 --> 00:18:31,203
Serious.
283
00:18:34,341 --> 00:18:36,275
This is serious.
284
00:18:36,376 --> 00:18:38,878
Thank you, schatzi.
285
00:18:40,079 --> 00:18:41,481
Interview, "Milli."
Take one.
286
00:18:41,581 --> 00:18:43,683
Camera A and B, mark.
287
00:18:43,783 --> 00:18:46,319
I've heard that
the name Milli Vanilli
288
00:18:46,419 --> 00:18:47,887
is because of you.
289
00:18:47,987 --> 00:18:49,389
- Oh.
- Is that true?
290
00:18:49,489 --> 00:18:50,657
That's true.
291
00:18:52,925 --> 00:18:55,027
I was Frank's girlfriend.
292
00:19:07,674 --> 00:19:11,143
I wrote the checks because
I was the financial controller
293
00:19:11,243 --> 00:19:13,713
of Frank's company.
294
00:19:19,552 --> 00:19:20,853
When they came into
the studio,
295
00:19:20,953 --> 00:19:23,155
they looked fantastic.
296
00:19:23,255 --> 00:19:26,292
I never saw people like that
so well-dressed
297
00:19:26,393 --> 00:19:27,994
and good-looking and braids,
298
00:19:28,094 --> 00:19:30,663
and Rob's eyes, green--
299
00:19:30,763 --> 00:19:32,465
You couldn't stop
looking at him.
300
00:19:47,647 --> 00:19:50,917
But they were
such good dancers.
301
00:20:01,728 --> 00:20:03,930
Frank needed American singer
like me.
302
00:20:04,030 --> 00:20:05,465
He said,
"I'm gonna make a project
303
00:20:05,565 --> 00:20:07,434
and you'll be the lead singer."
304
00:20:07,534 --> 00:20:09,068
I said, "OK, let's do it."
305
00:20:14,474 --> 00:20:16,543
I'm from Houston, Texas.
306
00:20:16,643 --> 00:20:18,411
Frank says,
"I have a new project.
307
00:20:18,511 --> 00:20:19,646
Can you rap it?"
308
00:20:19,746 --> 00:20:22,549
He wrote me a check
for $12,000.
309
00:20:22,649 --> 00:20:24,417
Just keep your mouth shut.
310
00:20:24,517 --> 00:20:27,787
Frank said, "Linda, we're
gonna need backing vocalists."
311
00:20:27,887 --> 00:20:29,422
So I brought in
my twin sister Jodie.
312
00:20:29,522 --> 00:20:31,223
And I looked at her, I said,
"If this is 'oohs' and 'ahs'
313
00:20:31,323 --> 00:20:33,460
and 'I love you,'
I'm gonna shoot you."
314
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:34,727
I said, "Shut up."
315
00:20:34,827 --> 00:20:36,496
He hits it, he says,
"I want you to sing this."
316
00:20:36,596 --> 00:20:38,097
both: * Ooh, ooh, ooh
317
00:20:38,197 --> 00:20:39,265
- * I love you
- I said, "Don't say it!"
318
00:20:48,407 --> 00:20:52,479
The song is ready,
and the two guys--perfect.
319
00:20:55,815 --> 00:20:57,750
When they're told
they're gonna lip-sync,
320
00:20:57,850 --> 00:20:59,351
what's their reaction?
321
00:20:59,452 --> 00:21:00,820
No problem at all.
322
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,791
They agreed and said,
"OK, when can we start?"
323
00:21:04,891 --> 00:21:07,460
It was never an--an--
an argument.
324
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,896
Never ever. Never!
325
00:21:09,996 --> 00:21:13,199
So you didn't have to
convince them to lip-sync?
326
00:21:13,299 --> 00:21:14,801
No! Why?
327
00:21:17,570 --> 00:21:19,238
They want to have success and...
328
00:21:27,780 --> 00:21:30,783
Was there ever
a point you said,
329
00:21:30,883 --> 00:21:33,319
give us the advance back
that we gave you.
330
00:21:33,419 --> 00:21:34,621
Gosh.
No.
331
00:21:34,721 --> 00:21:35,822
- No?
- No.
332
00:21:35,922 --> 00:21:37,857
- You didn't ask--
- No, no, no.
333
00:21:37,957 --> 00:21:42,428
This is not Frank's art--
artwork, yeah.
334
00:21:42,529 --> 00:21:45,064
If they would refuse,
they can go back to Munich
335
00:21:45,164 --> 00:21:46,799
and can...
336
00:21:46,899 --> 00:21:48,467
go for...
337
00:21:49,569 --> 00:21:51,203
or something like that.
338
00:21:58,010 --> 00:22:00,146
Well, I, uh...
339
00:22:00,246 --> 00:22:05,818
The first time I went to share
my side, uh,
340
00:22:05,918 --> 00:22:07,153
I was young.
341
00:22:07,253 --> 00:22:10,422
And if you're a young artist,
342
00:22:10,523 --> 00:22:14,994
you can only tell what
they want you to tell.
343
00:22:15,094 --> 00:22:17,697
But now, fuck it.
344
00:22:19,331 --> 00:22:22,301
I ain't keeping
my mouth shut for nobody.
345
00:22:24,136 --> 00:22:28,775
Frank Farian, he was just a--
346
00:22:28,875 --> 00:22:34,380
a genius of his art
of making money.
347
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,084
He knew exactly
what he was doing.
348
00:22:38,184 --> 00:22:40,653
You know,
it's not the first time.
349
00:22:40,753 --> 00:22:43,255
The same game was played with
Boney M.
350
00:22:46,826 --> 00:22:50,697
Bobby was not a singer.
351
00:22:50,797 --> 00:22:51,864
He was a dancer.
352
00:22:54,867 --> 00:22:56,468
He was a dancer.
353
00:23:03,542 --> 00:23:05,244
And who sung?
354
00:23:05,344 --> 00:23:06,078
Frank.
355
00:23:11,751 --> 00:23:14,286
And it sold
356
00:23:14,386 --> 00:23:16,188
how many platinums,
how many golds,
357
00:23:16,288 --> 00:23:17,556
you know what I'm saying?
358
00:23:25,632 --> 00:23:29,135
You're looking at him as
a producer
359
00:23:29,235 --> 00:23:32,972
that made most his money
on Black artists,
360
00:23:33,072 --> 00:23:35,007
and it worked.
361
00:23:35,107 --> 00:23:36,809
Then years later, he came back
362
00:23:36,909 --> 00:23:39,946
and did it again
with Milli Vanilli.
363
00:23:43,482 --> 00:23:45,685
He took my voice,
364
00:23:45,785 --> 00:23:49,856
he took their faces,
365
00:23:49,956 --> 00:23:53,125
he put the project together,
366
00:23:53,225 --> 00:23:56,528
he put it on the market,
367
00:23:56,629 --> 00:23:58,798
and he got rich off it.
368
00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:06,205
Milli Vanilli was delivered
by Frank Farian,
369
00:24:06,305 --> 00:24:09,075
and we were the distributor.
370
00:24:09,175 --> 00:24:14,013
We only saw the pictures of
the both guys and the song.
371
00:24:15,982 --> 00:24:17,483
Was nice-looking guys.
372
00:24:17,583 --> 00:24:20,419
Internationally, they could be
sold because they were colored
373
00:24:20,519 --> 00:24:22,955
and everything was--every--
it fits together.
374
00:24:23,055 --> 00:24:25,124
The product was great.
The music was great.
375
00:24:25,224 --> 00:24:27,727
The whole project is fantastic.
376
00:24:31,798 --> 00:24:32,965
No, we didn't know it.
377
00:24:33,065 --> 00:24:34,901
I got tapes where--
378
00:24:35,001 --> 00:24:40,639
me, I was told that
it's Rob and Fab singing.
379
00:24:46,012 --> 00:24:47,346
One day,
we're at a friend's house
380
00:24:47,446 --> 00:24:50,116
watching "Formel Eins,"
this TV show...
381
00:24:52,451 --> 00:24:55,154
And then we see
Milli Vanilli.
382
00:24:55,254 --> 00:24:58,190
Milli Vanilli,
"Girl You Know It's True."
383
00:24:58,290 --> 00:25:01,761
Our name on television
on "Formel Eins."
384
00:25:01,861 --> 00:25:03,763
We used to dance
behind the stars
385
00:25:03,863 --> 00:25:05,397
who would come on this show,
386
00:25:05,497 --> 00:25:08,801
and suddenly,
we're in the charts.
387
00:25:08,901 --> 00:25:10,402
I mean, we went crazy.
388
00:25:10,502 --> 00:25:13,773
Running, like,
we even broke stuff.
389
00:25:13,873 --> 00:25:16,542
The song starts to blow up,
390
00:25:16,642 --> 00:25:18,711
and it happens so fast.
391
00:25:18,811 --> 00:25:20,546
Like, every week,
it was going up.
392
00:25:20,646 --> 00:25:22,148
Boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom,
393
00:25:22,248 --> 00:25:25,184
boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, pow!
394
00:25:25,284 --> 00:25:26,853
And the song just takes off.
395
00:25:26,953 --> 00:25:28,387
It becomes a huge hit
in Germany.
396
00:25:32,658 --> 00:25:35,061
Nobody knew
it was gonna be a hit.
397
00:25:35,161 --> 00:25:36,829
Not even Frank.
398
00:25:36,929 --> 00:25:39,031
But once he's seen
it was rising,
399
00:25:39,131 --> 00:25:41,433
then he started putting
more promotion into it.
400
00:25:41,533 --> 00:25:43,369
Suddenly,
we were in "Bravo,"
401
00:25:43,469 --> 00:25:47,639
a youth magazine in Germany,
selling millions every week.
402
00:25:47,740 --> 00:25:50,176
People that were not
taking us seriously
403
00:25:50,276 --> 00:25:53,145
were suddenly like, "Hey."
404
00:25:53,245 --> 00:25:55,547
And now it's going through Europe.
405
00:25:55,647 --> 00:25:59,251
So we travel up and down Europe
on television.
406
00:26:00,586 --> 00:26:01,988
We were nervous.
407
00:26:02,088 --> 00:26:03,555
"Can you drop your mic
a little bit?"
408
00:26:03,655 --> 00:26:05,391
No, I'm gonna keep it there.
409
00:26:07,293 --> 00:26:11,063
But nervousness translated
into excitement.
410
00:26:15,868 --> 00:26:18,570
A minute ago,
we didn't want to do this,
411
00:26:18,670 --> 00:26:21,273
but now, we want more.
412
00:26:21,373 --> 00:26:23,075
We were so pumped.
413
00:26:23,175 --> 00:26:25,978
You're in Italy,
you're in Spain,
414
00:26:26,078 --> 00:26:27,579
you're in Holland.
415
00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:30,216
And then all of a sudden,
it hits the States.
416
00:26:31,050 --> 00:26:32,084
Bam.
417
00:26:37,589 --> 00:26:39,725
♪ I'm in love with you, girl,
'cause you're on my mind ♪
418
00:26:39,826 --> 00:26:42,261
♪ You're the one I think about
most every time ♪
419
00:26:42,361 --> 00:26:44,797
♪ And when you pack a smile
in everything you do ♪
420
00:26:44,897 --> 00:26:47,133
♪ Don't you understand, girl,
this love is true ♪
421
00:26:47,233 --> 00:26:50,736
They came in,
braids swinging...
422
00:26:50,837 --> 00:26:52,771
Chest bumping...
423
00:26:52,872 --> 00:26:54,540
with tights on.
424
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,210
It was two Black dudes
with dreads coming into pop.
425
00:26:58,310 --> 00:27:01,213
That alone was
the shock factor.
426
00:27:01,313 --> 00:27:04,817
♪ Girl, you know it's true
427
00:27:04,917 --> 00:27:07,887
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you
428
00:27:07,987 --> 00:27:10,957
The hair and the bandannas
and the shoulder pads.
429
00:27:11,057 --> 00:27:12,658
♪ Yes, you know it's true
430
00:27:12,758 --> 00:27:14,593
It was a totally
different style.
431
00:27:14,693 --> 00:27:17,196
both:
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you
432
00:27:17,296 --> 00:27:18,965
- That's all we knew.
- They had it all.
433
00:27:19,065 --> 00:27:20,666
Like, their visuals were
on point.
434
00:27:20,766 --> 00:27:22,801
I mean, they were
just eye candy.
435
00:27:22,902 --> 00:27:25,404
It was yummy, yummy, yummy.
436
00:27:28,674 --> 00:27:30,676
"Girl You Know It's True"
becomes the number two hit
437
00:27:30,776 --> 00:27:31,844
in the United States.
438
00:27:31,944 --> 00:27:33,612
"Girl You Know It's True,"
number two.
439
00:27:33,712 --> 00:27:36,148
Oh, my God.
440
00:27:36,248 --> 00:27:40,652
It became a top five hit in
23 countries around the world.
441
00:27:40,752 --> 00:27:44,023
That's Michael Jackson
level success.
442
00:27:44,123 --> 00:27:45,624
Ah!
443
00:27:46,893 --> 00:27:48,627
Great music, it just rises.
444
00:27:48,727 --> 00:27:52,531
When those special ones come,
they come.
445
00:27:52,631 --> 00:27:55,767
As much as it wasn't
the right thing to do,
446
00:27:55,868 --> 00:27:58,370
the power of
"Girl You Know It's True"...
447
00:27:58,470 --> 00:28:00,139
♪ I'm so in love, girl
448
00:28:00,239 --> 00:28:01,240
Was pulling on us.
449
00:28:01,340 --> 00:28:02,841
♪ I'm so in love, girl
450
00:28:04,410 --> 00:28:08,547
This energy, this hype...
- Do you want to party?
451
00:28:08,647 --> 00:28:11,850
The love...
452
00:28:11,951 --> 00:28:15,187
So from that point on,
453
00:28:15,287 --> 00:28:18,324
we embraced the lie.
454
00:28:46,885 --> 00:28:48,754
- What's up?
- Running.
455
00:28:48,854 --> 00:28:50,589
Yeah.
456
00:28:50,689 --> 00:28:53,392
Number one.
457
00:28:53,492 --> 00:28:54,526
Every time we were
around people
458
00:28:54,626 --> 00:28:55,995
or, like, taking pictures...
459
00:28:56,095 --> 00:28:57,396
OK.
460
00:28:58,397 --> 00:29:00,666
We knew,
you know, you know.
461
00:29:00,766 --> 00:29:02,534
They don't know.
Do they know? I don't know.
462
00:29:05,804 --> 00:29:08,907
But it was too difficult to
say no to this new life.
463
00:29:12,611 --> 00:29:16,682
"Girl You Know It's True"
just unveiled the beast in us.
464
00:29:22,621 --> 00:29:23,722
Yeah.
465
00:29:29,661 --> 00:29:31,897
We came from nothing
and now we were tasting
466
00:29:31,998 --> 00:29:34,000
this pop star life.
467
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:36,568
To be adored, to be loved,
468
00:29:36,668 --> 00:29:39,871
that became very addictive.
469
00:30:02,894 --> 00:30:04,263
I was nervous.
470
00:30:04,363 --> 00:30:10,402
Being caught was something that
was always, always very aware.
471
00:30:10,502 --> 00:30:13,005
So, when will we have
your LP?
472
00:30:13,105 --> 00:30:15,607
Gonna come out in two weeks.
473
00:30:15,707 --> 00:30:20,479
It's just like very pop
dance orientated music.
474
00:30:20,579 --> 00:30:22,781
Are you ready here?
475
00:30:24,883 --> 00:30:28,687
For us, it was a surprise
that it developed immediately.
476
00:30:28,787 --> 00:30:30,989
It was worthwhile thinking
about what you can do.
477
00:30:31,090 --> 00:30:34,160
Do we need an album?
Yes, we need an album.
478
00:30:34,260 --> 00:30:37,329
Do we need a second single?
Yes, we need a second single.
479
00:30:43,335 --> 00:30:45,537
I get the call.
480
00:30:45,637 --> 00:30:47,106
"Frank needs to talk to you."
481
00:30:48,607 --> 00:30:51,243
So I goes up to the studio,
482
00:30:51,343 --> 00:30:54,580
Ingrid opened the door,
I go in.
483
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,814
Sit in the kitchen and wait.
484
00:30:58,817 --> 00:31:03,255
He came out--took his time,
fixed him a coffee--
485
00:31:03,355 --> 00:31:05,724
and then he said,
486
00:31:05,824 --> 00:31:08,894
"I told you,
keep your mouth shut."
487
00:31:12,231 --> 00:31:16,368
He says to me, um,
"They found out in Munich,
488
00:31:16,468 --> 00:31:18,904
"from your promotion manager
or whoever,
489
00:31:19,004 --> 00:31:21,873
"that you're the voice.
490
00:31:21,973 --> 00:31:23,975
Don't want to
see you here anymore."
491
00:31:24,076 --> 00:31:25,844
We didn't talk anymore.
492
00:31:25,944 --> 00:31:29,581
That's it.
493
00:31:29,681 --> 00:31:34,520
I was kicked to the curb.
494
00:31:37,489 --> 00:31:40,092
One night,
Frank Farian called me up.
495
00:31:40,192 --> 00:31:43,061
He said, "John, I've got
a project I'm working on."
496
00:31:44,963 --> 00:31:49,735
"I had a rapper, Charles Shaw,
who tried the situation
497
00:31:49,835 --> 00:31:53,872
and he was not good so
can you come to the studio?"
498
00:31:56,308 --> 00:31:58,510
So that's what I did.
499
00:31:58,610 --> 00:32:00,879
He said,
"You got 10,000 D-marks,"
500
00:32:00,979 --> 00:32:02,948
and I said, "Wow."
501
00:32:03,048 --> 00:32:06,051
He said, "You're gonna do
the whole album with me."
502
00:32:06,152 --> 00:32:09,721
Frank said, "We're gonna be
doing more songs."
503
00:32:09,821 --> 00:32:11,957
We always asked,
"Where is Rob and Fab?
504
00:32:12,057 --> 00:32:14,025
When are they gonna
start singing?"
505
00:32:14,126 --> 00:32:16,362
Frank said, "They're gonna
record in the evening
506
00:32:16,462 --> 00:32:17,929
when you guys are done."
507
00:32:36,682 --> 00:32:39,318
I used to have to go through
the back door
508
00:32:39,418 --> 00:32:41,387
because Frank didn't want
nobody know
509
00:32:41,487 --> 00:32:43,689
I was the lead singer.
510
00:32:43,789 --> 00:32:46,091
This is run like
a tight military operation.
511
00:32:46,192 --> 00:32:48,660
It's on a need-to-know basis.
512
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,096
It was smoke and mirrors.
513
00:32:51,197 --> 00:32:55,634
David Copperfield
couldn't have done it better.
514
00:32:55,734 --> 00:32:58,937
We like it hot, don't we?
515
00:32:59,037 --> 00:33:01,640
You want to get down with
Milli Vanilli?
516
00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:04,310
They're coming.
It's a hit. Shake your booty.
517
00:33:04,410 --> 00:33:06,945
"Girl You Know It's True."
518
00:33:17,789 --> 00:33:18,990
- One, mark.
- Mark.
519
00:33:21,527 --> 00:33:23,762
Make sure everyone's phone's
on silent.
520
00:33:23,862 --> 00:33:25,264
That's a good idea.
521
00:33:31,036 --> 00:33:34,573
Clive is a--
is a gift-seeker.
522
00:33:34,673 --> 00:33:38,510
He is like the Yoda of talent.
523
00:33:38,610 --> 00:33:40,145
He knows.
524
00:33:40,246 --> 00:33:42,514
He just knows.
525
00:33:42,614 --> 00:33:45,917
With Milli Vanilli,
Clive saw dollar signs.
526
00:33:46,017 --> 00:33:48,086
"Girl You Know It's True"
is big now.
527
00:33:48,186 --> 00:33:51,089
How can we cash in on
the immediate moment?
528
00:33:51,189 --> 00:33:54,360
Well, we moved everything up
as fast as possible.
529
00:33:54,460 --> 00:33:57,195
Clive would say every week
that we're missing,
530
00:33:57,296 --> 00:33:59,498
we're missing, like,
a million dollars.
531
00:33:59,598 --> 00:34:02,734
So we had to put
an album in motion.
532
00:34:02,834 --> 00:34:06,004
But the album that's out
in Europe, "All or Nothing,"
533
00:34:06,104 --> 00:34:10,075
was not strong enough
to release in America.
534
00:34:10,175 --> 00:34:12,644
Clive called up
Diane Warren.
535
00:34:12,744 --> 00:34:14,480
Diane Warren is one of
the biggest songwriters
536
00:34:14,580 --> 00:34:15,747
there are in the country.
537
00:34:15,847 --> 00:34:17,916
I had written
"Blame It On The Rain"
538
00:34:18,016 --> 00:34:19,485
when I was scheduled
to see Clive,
539
00:34:19,585 --> 00:34:21,853
and he goes, I want you to
hear this new group I have.
540
00:34:21,953 --> 00:34:23,422
And he played me
"Girl You Know It's True."
541
00:34:23,522 --> 00:34:24,723
I'm like, "This is so crazy
542
00:34:24,823 --> 00:34:26,024
"'cause the song
I'm bringing you
543
00:34:26,124 --> 00:34:27,526
really sounds like
the follow-up to that."
544
00:34:27,626 --> 00:34:28,927
It's even the same rhythm.
545
00:34:29,027 --> 00:34:31,430
"Girl You Know It's True,"
"Blame It On The Rain."
546
00:34:31,530 --> 00:34:33,198
I played him the song
and he loved it.
547
00:34:33,299 --> 00:34:36,034
He sent it to Frank Farian
and they recorded it.
548
00:34:38,770 --> 00:34:41,707
Normally,
when you've given the producer
549
00:34:41,807 --> 00:34:44,543
some repertoire
for them to record,
550
00:34:44,643 --> 00:34:47,613
you want to be there
to make sure it gets done.
551
00:34:47,713 --> 00:34:49,681
In the case of Frank, though,
552
00:34:49,781 --> 00:34:52,451
he didn't want anyone
in the studio.
553
00:34:55,354 --> 00:34:59,591
It was very weird for us
to find the songs,
554
00:34:59,691 --> 00:35:01,192
send them to Frank,
555
00:35:01,293 --> 00:35:06,865
and then have them produce it
without any of our presence.
556
00:35:06,965 --> 00:35:11,303
But the speculation that
we were somehow aware of
557
00:35:11,403 --> 00:35:14,406
what was going on
behind the scenes in Germany
558
00:35:14,506 --> 00:35:17,909
is simply not the case.
559
00:35:18,009 --> 00:35:22,781
If an outside producer sends
in all the album credits,
560
00:35:22,881 --> 00:35:24,383
you have to take it on faith
561
00:35:24,483 --> 00:35:27,919
that represents what actually
happened in the studio.
562
00:35:28,019 --> 00:35:30,221
There was no reason
to think not.
563
00:35:35,427 --> 00:35:36,962
Ah, there it is.
564
00:35:37,062 --> 00:35:40,198
So this is the European version
of the album "All or Nothing."
565
00:35:40,298 --> 00:35:43,435
You see Rob and Fab on
the cover, the first album.
566
00:35:43,535 --> 00:35:45,771
That's their, like,
running man logo.
567
00:35:45,871 --> 00:35:46,905
There they are on the back,
568
00:35:47,005 --> 00:35:49,841
shirtless, of course,
'cause why not?
569
00:35:49,941 --> 00:35:54,746
And let's see
who's credited on this album.
570
00:35:57,683 --> 00:36:00,752
So it says musicians here,
571
00:36:00,852 --> 00:36:04,923
and I don't see Rob and Fab
on here at all.
572
00:36:05,023 --> 00:36:10,529
So, backing vocals, Jodie and
Linda Rocco, Charles Shaw--
573
00:36:10,629 --> 00:36:12,063
produced by Frank Farian.
574
00:36:12,163 --> 00:36:15,501
But this is the truth
in advertising version
575
00:36:15,601 --> 00:36:17,235
that doesn't have them on it.
576
00:36:17,335 --> 00:36:20,506
If I'm at a record label and
I'm putting out this record,
577
00:36:20,606 --> 00:36:23,909
and I look at the vocalists and
the guys who are on the cover
578
00:36:24,009 --> 00:36:26,645
are not listed in
the liner notes,
579
00:36:26,745 --> 00:36:28,079
I'm gonna have some questions,
you know?
580
00:36:28,179 --> 00:36:31,349
Like, that is a giant
red flag for me.
581
00:36:36,121 --> 00:36:38,457
That was the name of
the European album.
582
00:36:41,693 --> 00:36:43,929
Really?
OK. I didn't know that.
583
00:36:44,029 --> 00:36:47,132
- So that's--
584
00:36:53,171 --> 00:36:54,372
I--
585
00:36:54,473 --> 00:36:55,373
I don't know what to say
to that.
586
00:36:58,043 --> 00:37:00,812
Yeah, but we didn't
release that record, so--
587
00:37:05,584 --> 00:37:08,053
Really? I forgot about that.
588
00:37:16,294 --> 00:37:20,031
♪ Woo, blame it on the rain
589
00:37:20,131 --> 00:37:22,468
- * Rain
- * Yeah, yeah
590
00:37:22,568 --> 00:37:24,870
♪ Blame it on the stars
591
00:37:24,970 --> 00:37:26,404
- * Stars
- * Ooh
592
00:37:26,505 --> 00:37:28,406
Rob Pilatus, my brother,
593
00:37:28,507 --> 00:37:31,242
he loved "Blame It On The Rain"
because that was--
594
00:37:31,342 --> 00:37:34,513
that was his thing.
595
00:37:34,613 --> 00:37:35,947
♪ You said you
didn't need her ♪
596
00:37:36,047 --> 00:37:39,217
"Blame It On The Rain" is
number one hit in 1989.
597
00:37:39,317 --> 00:37:42,087
They released "Baby Don't
Forget My Number," number one.
598
00:37:42,187 --> 00:37:45,023
"Girl I'm Gonna Miss You"
is the third number one song.
599
00:37:45,123 --> 00:37:47,025
They have three number one
smashes off that record.
600
00:37:47,125 --> 00:37:48,694
That feels impossible.
601
00:37:48,794 --> 00:37:50,929
♪ To satisfy your pride
602
00:37:51,029 --> 00:37:54,032
And once you have
three big hit singles,
603
00:37:54,132 --> 00:37:57,102
you're gonna sell
a lot of albums.
604
00:37:57,202 --> 00:38:00,706
If an artist sells 500,000
and went gold, that's terrific.
605
00:38:02,541 --> 00:38:05,977
♪ You let her walk away
606
00:38:06,077 --> 00:38:08,780
If an artist sells a million
albums, that's something.
607
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,281
♪ Got to blame it on
something ♪
608
00:38:10,381 --> 00:38:11,917
But 8 million?
609
00:38:12,017 --> 00:38:14,119
It's one of the biggest
debuts of all time.
610
00:38:14,219 --> 00:38:19,324
♪ Blame it on the rain
that was falling, falling ♪
611
00:38:19,424 --> 00:38:22,694
♪ Blame it on the stars
that didn't shine that night ♪
612
00:38:22,794 --> 00:38:24,162
To just come out of nowhere
613
00:38:24,262 --> 00:38:26,765
and have a number one
debut album for seven weeks,
614
00:38:26,865 --> 00:38:29,200
well, that just was unheard of
at the time.
615
00:38:29,300 --> 00:38:33,271
♪ Blame it on the rain,
yeah, yeah ♪
616
00:38:33,371 --> 00:38:37,342
Debut album,
hot right out of the gate.
617
00:38:37,442 --> 00:38:38,777
"Here's Milli Vanilli.
618
00:38:38,877 --> 00:38:40,211
What do you want to do
with it?"
619
00:38:40,311 --> 00:38:42,147
Well, we want to play it.
We want to dance to it.
620
00:38:42,247 --> 00:38:43,649
We want to have fun with them.
621
00:38:43,749 --> 00:38:46,384
Can we get them in the studio?
We want to meet them.
622
00:38:46,484 --> 00:38:51,523
♪ Blame it on the rain
that was falling, falling ♪
623
00:38:51,623 --> 00:38:53,291
♪ Blame it on the stars
624
00:38:53,391 --> 00:38:55,460
At that point,
what are we gonna do?
625
00:38:55,561 --> 00:38:58,830
Should we bring them over?
Should they do the MTV tour?
626
00:38:58,930 --> 00:39:01,132
Then that all kicks in.
627
00:39:01,232 --> 00:39:03,268
♪ Blame it on the rain
628
00:39:03,368 --> 00:39:06,204
Labels saw we were growing
in the charts in America.
629
00:39:06,304 --> 00:39:07,973
♪ Blame it on the rain
630
00:39:08,073 --> 00:39:10,576
Our presence was needed.
631
00:39:12,377 --> 00:39:16,047
But Frank didn't want us
to go to America.
632
00:39:16,147 --> 00:39:17,683
Frank was apprehensive
633
00:39:17,783 --> 00:39:20,151
because of the big secret, obviously.
634
00:39:20,251 --> 00:39:23,388
Frank was concerned that
they would go to America
635
00:39:23,488 --> 00:39:26,057
and fuck up everything.
636
00:39:26,157 --> 00:39:29,194
America had our heart.
637
00:39:29,294 --> 00:39:33,464
"We want to go to the US.
USA! USA!"
638
00:39:38,203 --> 00:39:40,071
Coming to LA for us was like
639
00:39:40,171 --> 00:39:42,674
we're living the dream,
we're doing things.
640
00:39:42,774 --> 00:39:44,009
- A'ight?
- Kick it.
641
00:39:44,109 --> 00:39:46,945
Hollywood, Malibu.
642
00:39:47,045 --> 00:39:49,615
The girls are hot there, too. Oof.
643
00:39:51,817 --> 00:39:53,351
♪ Cold coolin' at a bar
644
00:39:53,451 --> 00:39:55,821
We got a manager,
Sandy Gallin...
645
00:39:55,921 --> 00:39:57,155
♪ But like
Mick Jagger said ♪
646
00:39:57,255 --> 00:39:58,690
He was like a big player.
647
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:59,991
♪ I can't get
no satisfaction ♪
648
00:40:00,091 --> 00:40:01,559
He had Michael Jackson
at the time,
649
00:40:01,660 --> 00:40:03,962
Dolly Parton--tons of people.
650
00:40:04,062 --> 00:40:05,130
That's why he had us,
651
00:40:05,230 --> 00:40:06,632
to handle people like
Milli Vanilli.
652
00:40:06,732 --> 00:40:09,167
♪ Funky Cold Medina
653
00:40:09,267 --> 00:40:11,436
I was truly,
in the beginning, a fan.
654
00:40:11,536 --> 00:40:13,571
I said to them,
"You know, I've never been
655
00:40:13,672 --> 00:40:15,073
a manager before,"
656
00:40:15,173 --> 00:40:19,210
and Rob said, "Well, we've
never been pop stars before."
657
00:40:19,310 --> 00:40:22,280
I was like, "OK, here we go."
658
00:40:25,516 --> 00:40:29,487
My first job was putting them
on the MTV tour.
659
00:40:29,587 --> 00:40:32,123
It was gonna be
our first tour in America--
660
00:40:32,223 --> 00:40:35,727
a 107 city tour
in eight months--
661
00:40:35,827 --> 00:40:37,929
so we had to put
a band together.
662
00:40:40,231 --> 00:40:42,000
I was the band leader then.
663
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:44,870
We had rehearsed,
we were flawless.
664
00:40:44,970 --> 00:40:47,438
Everybody was really
invested in this gig
665
00:40:47,538 --> 00:40:50,709
'cause it was
the new hottest shit, you know?
666
00:40:50,809 --> 00:40:52,878
After we had been approved,
667
00:40:52,978 --> 00:40:56,948
Rob and Fab disappeared.
They were gone.
668
00:40:57,048 --> 00:41:00,686
So we were just rehearsing
with no artist.
669
00:41:00,786 --> 00:41:05,056
And I start going, "These guys
must be really, really good.
670
00:41:05,156 --> 00:41:07,258
"They don't rehearse,
they don't fucking do nothing.
671
00:41:07,358 --> 00:41:10,896
They--
what the hell's going on?"
672
00:41:10,996 --> 00:41:12,530
We started asking
more questions.
673
00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:15,366
We got to realize, this musical
director at the time
674
00:41:15,466 --> 00:41:19,771
is programming this Oberheim.
There's where the vocals are.
675
00:41:19,871 --> 00:41:23,508
And then we understood,
"Oh, they're lip-syncing."
676
00:41:23,608 --> 00:41:26,211
So we said, "OK, we're in
a lip-sync band."
677
00:41:27,779 --> 00:41:29,815
They said, "Don't say anything
about this to anybody else."
678
00:41:29,915 --> 00:41:31,016
"Fine."
679
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:38,356
The show would play
to packed arenas.
680
00:41:38,456 --> 00:41:43,494
Rob and Fab were two sexy
performers selling hits,
681
00:41:43,594 --> 00:41:46,698
and they did a really
bloody good job at it.
682
00:42:04,916 --> 00:42:11,256
Yeah!
683
00:42:11,356 --> 00:42:14,960
♪ Girl, you know it's true
684
00:42:15,060 --> 00:42:21,099
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you
685
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:23,168
♪ Yes, you know it's true
686
00:42:27,005 --> 00:42:29,007
The audience loved them.
687
00:42:29,107 --> 00:42:31,843
Yeah!
688
00:42:31,943 --> 00:42:34,179
It was very powerful.
689
00:42:34,279 --> 00:42:36,281
♪ Girl, you know it's,
girl, you know it's ♪
690
00:42:36,381 --> 00:42:38,683
♪ Girl, you know it's true
691
00:42:38,784 --> 00:42:41,119
♪ Girl, you know it's,
yes, you know it's ♪
692
00:42:41,219 --> 00:42:44,722
♪ Girl, you know it's true
693
00:42:44,823 --> 00:42:48,593
Performing is a drug.
694
00:42:48,693 --> 00:42:53,799
That euphoric feeling allowed
us to just forget everything.
695
00:43:06,711 --> 00:43:08,646
Milli Vanilli,
the European duo,
696
00:43:08,746 --> 00:43:10,748
now one of the hottest
groups in America,
697
00:43:10,849 --> 00:43:13,952
made a special trip to the
Disney MGM Studios theme parks
698
00:43:14,052 --> 00:43:15,020
where we arranged
for them to have
699
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,587
an exclusive interview session
700
00:43:16,687 --> 00:43:18,824
with some of
their most loyal fans.
701
00:43:18,924 --> 00:43:20,325
Wherever you've performed,
702
00:43:20,425 --> 00:43:23,494
has anything really
embarrassing happened to you?
703
00:43:23,594 --> 00:43:24,796
Yeah.
704
00:43:34,439 --> 00:43:36,541
It was super hot that day.
705
00:43:36,641 --> 00:43:40,912
"Downtown" Julie Brown
introduces us as usual.
706
00:43:47,919 --> 00:43:49,487
I decided to take a break--
707
00:43:49,587 --> 00:43:52,623
the show had been going now
for a few months--
708
00:43:52,723 --> 00:43:55,560
and it was while
I was in my trailer
709
00:43:55,660 --> 00:44:00,265
I heard the crowd, like,
getting a little bit rowdy.
710
00:44:02,433 --> 00:44:04,970
The vocals that were
being cued from the emulator
711
00:44:05,070 --> 00:44:06,237
started repeating.
712
00:44:06,337 --> 00:44:07,705
♪ Girl, you know it's--
713
00:44:07,805 --> 00:44:10,141
♪ Girl, you know it's--
girl, you know it's-- ♪
714
00:44:10,241 --> 00:44:12,010
♪ Girl, you know it's--
715
00:44:12,110 --> 00:44:14,779
It was like--
716
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,847
Shit!
717
00:44:18,449 --> 00:44:22,320
As I open my door,
I saw Rob go flying by.
718
00:44:22,420 --> 00:44:25,390
Rob and Fab were gone,
and I'm onstage still with
719
00:44:25,490 --> 00:44:27,392
the guitar player and the
drummer going "What the fuck?
720
00:44:27,492 --> 00:44:29,861
Do we continue the song on
or what are we doing here?"
721
00:44:31,596 --> 00:44:32,864
So, of course,
there was outrage.
722
00:44:32,964 --> 00:44:34,132
I was furious.
723
00:44:34,232 --> 00:44:36,834
"What the fuck, you know?
Find him!"
724
00:44:36,935 --> 00:44:39,971
Rob was pissed.
He was like, "Fuck that!"
725
00:44:40,071 --> 00:44:42,240
He lost his cool.
726
00:44:42,340 --> 00:44:44,876
Rob had gotten hold of me
to say,
727
00:44:44,976 --> 00:44:46,044
"I don't know what to do."
728
00:44:46,144 --> 00:44:47,778
You know, he was scared.
729
00:44:50,181 --> 00:44:51,482
He kind of exploded.
730
00:44:51,582 --> 00:44:57,288
It was the moment where
it just burst open.
731
00:44:57,388 --> 00:44:59,057
And at that time,
we didn't know
732
00:44:59,157 --> 00:45:03,128
what pressure he was feeling
because we didn't know
733
00:45:03,228 --> 00:45:04,930
the load they were carrying.
734
00:45:33,524 --> 00:45:36,928
♪ On the rain
that was falling ♪
735
00:45:37,028 --> 00:45:38,029
When Milli Vanilli blew up,
736
00:45:38,129 --> 00:45:39,530
I was a program director at
737
00:45:39,630 --> 00:45:44,435
WILD radio station, Boston.
1090 on the AM dial.
738
00:45:44,535 --> 00:45:49,240
The only Black station
within miles
739
00:45:49,340 --> 00:45:51,742
of Boston, Massachusetts.
740
00:45:53,278 --> 00:45:56,547
The guys came to our radio
station for our morning show.
741
00:45:56,647 --> 00:45:57,915
And I remember
them sitting there,
742
00:45:58,016 --> 00:45:59,517
and when I heard them talk
for the first time,
743
00:45:59,617 --> 00:46:02,020
I'm like,
"Oh, they sound very different
744
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,255
than they do on the record."
745
00:46:05,556 --> 00:46:07,925
Please welcome Milli Vanilli.
746
00:46:11,129 --> 00:46:13,664
Once they started doing
promotional dates,
747
00:46:13,764 --> 00:46:16,401
it became pretty clear
that something was strange.
748
00:46:16,501 --> 00:46:18,036
Fab, how are you
finding Australia?
749
00:46:18,136 --> 00:46:19,470
You enjoying it?
750
00:46:22,173 --> 00:46:23,774
Sydney?
751
00:46:23,874 --> 00:46:25,676
Syd-ney. Syd-ney.
752
00:46:26,311 --> 00:46:30,015
Melbourne. Melbourne.
753
00:46:31,516 --> 00:46:35,220
It just seemed that
they weren't comfortable
754
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,455
communicating in English.
755
00:46:37,555 --> 00:46:40,191
Who inspired you
the most, Rob?
756
00:46:40,291 --> 00:46:42,693
Uh, diff--difficult.
757
00:46:42,793 --> 00:46:45,330
You could tell
they were sweating bullets.
758
00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:46,464
People were starting to,
you know,
759
00:46:46,564 --> 00:46:48,133
giggle a little bit
on the sides.
760
00:46:48,233 --> 00:46:49,734
Fab, you speak English, right?
761
00:46:49,834 --> 00:46:52,470
- Yeah, I can, too.
- Who are your--
762
00:46:52,570 --> 00:46:54,905
And it was easy to
kind of latch on to that
763
00:46:55,006 --> 00:46:55,973
and make them a joke.
764
00:46:56,074 --> 00:47:00,178
You are Germany,
and I'm from French.
765
00:47:00,278 --> 00:47:02,047
Oh.
766
00:47:03,881 --> 00:47:06,551
There's a way that
I think some people knew.
767
00:47:06,651 --> 00:47:10,788
♪ Blame it on the rain
768
00:47:10,888 --> 00:47:12,990
Arsenio Hall is someone who
had been around the business
769
00:47:13,091 --> 00:47:15,393
a long time and had seen a lot.
770
00:47:15,493 --> 00:47:17,395
Man, I think Milli Vanilli
doing crack.
771
00:47:17,495 --> 00:47:18,796
I don't think--
772
00:47:18,896 --> 00:47:20,665
It seemed bad to
a lot of these folks.
773
00:47:20,765 --> 00:47:23,134
Those pants too tight.
They going--
774
00:47:23,234 --> 00:47:24,969
They knew something was up.
775
00:47:27,605 --> 00:47:29,574
Privately, I thought, like,
776
00:47:29,674 --> 00:47:32,543
you know, "Did they really
sing everything?"
777
00:47:32,643 --> 00:47:34,445
Girls!
crowd: Girls!
778
00:47:34,545 --> 00:47:37,148
Hey, boys!
crowd: Hey, boys!
779
00:47:37,248 --> 00:47:40,118
Yeah!
crowd: Yeah!
780
00:47:40,218 --> 00:47:43,788
♪ Girl, you know it's--
girl, you know it's true ♪
781
00:47:43,888 --> 00:47:45,823
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh
782
00:47:45,923 --> 00:47:48,393
♪ I'm in love with you, girl,
'cause you're on my mind ♪
783
00:47:48,493 --> 00:47:50,461
♪ You're the one I think about
most every time ♪
784
00:47:50,561 --> 00:47:53,098
We didn't sing on
those records.
785
00:47:53,198 --> 00:47:55,466
♪ Don't you understand, girl,
this love is true ♪
786
00:47:55,566 --> 00:47:57,835
We didn't even sound like
those records.
787
00:48:00,205 --> 00:48:02,973
We were lying.
788
00:48:13,284 --> 00:48:15,153
Lies are taking the elevators
789
00:48:15,253 --> 00:48:18,123
while the truth
takes the stairs.
790
00:48:21,859 --> 00:48:24,995
I knew that at some point,
the truth would rise.
791
00:48:27,198 --> 00:48:30,135
They were gonna catch us
at some point or another.
792
00:48:40,278 --> 00:48:43,681
This load on our shoulders,
793
00:48:43,781 --> 00:48:46,817
it was getting heavy and heavy
and heavy.
794
00:49:24,689 --> 00:49:26,957
I was a little bit
tired by it, yeah.
795
00:49:36,734 --> 00:49:40,371
We drank more,
took more drugs,
796
00:49:40,471 --> 00:49:43,508
to be able to, like, numb out.
797
00:50:03,127 --> 00:50:05,596
I think next time,
next time, maybe--
798
00:50:05,696 --> 00:50:07,164
should we ask them to sing
next time?
799
00:50:18,008 --> 00:50:20,077
Um...
800
00:50:20,177 --> 00:50:23,581
This, uh...
801
00:51:48,333 --> 00:51:50,468
They got double platinum.
They got gold records.
802
00:51:53,203 --> 00:51:55,506
Everybody else got
a gold record of my voice
803
00:51:55,606 --> 00:51:57,007
on their walls.
804
00:51:58,743 --> 00:52:02,112
That's my voice!
805
00:52:02,212 --> 00:52:03,914
You end up drinking,
806
00:52:04,014 --> 00:52:07,485
you end up taking drugs
to not think about
807
00:52:07,585 --> 00:52:10,087
what's really happening
in reality.
808
00:52:10,187 --> 00:52:13,223
Then my manager that I had
at that time said,
809
00:52:13,324 --> 00:52:15,192
"Well, you know what?
810
00:52:15,292 --> 00:52:19,397
We're gonna do interviews.
You're gonna go live."
811
00:52:19,497 --> 00:52:21,065
I was singing before
Milli Vanilli
812
00:52:21,165 --> 00:52:23,300
even thought about
becoming stars.
813
00:52:23,401 --> 00:52:27,004
I went abroad and said it
in a TV show,
814
00:52:27,104 --> 00:52:28,339
it's my voice.
815
00:52:28,439 --> 00:52:32,377
Music is from Frank Farian
and not from Milli Vanilli.
816
00:52:40,485 --> 00:52:43,220
And Frank denied it all.
817
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,457
His words were--I can
remember them to the day--
818
00:52:46,557 --> 00:52:49,427
"This artist is a liar.
819
00:52:49,527 --> 00:52:52,196
"Look the way he's dressed.
820
00:52:52,296 --> 00:52:54,131
"The Black guy.
821
00:52:54,231 --> 00:52:55,666
He's just trying to
make money."
822
00:53:09,113 --> 00:53:10,214
Ingrid!
823
00:53:10,314 --> 00:53:11,949
She said,
"Frank don't want you to be
824
00:53:12,049 --> 00:53:15,185
"talking out there to nobody.
Keep your mouth shut."
825
00:53:15,285 --> 00:53:16,554
"How could you say that?
826
00:53:16,654 --> 00:53:19,590
You're just trying
to get publicity."
827
00:53:19,690 --> 00:53:22,393
Milli Vanilli fans?
Oh, man.
828
00:53:22,493 --> 00:53:24,429
Death threats.
829
00:53:24,529 --> 00:53:29,634
"Your next show, this and this
is gonna happen to you."
830
00:53:29,734 --> 00:53:31,736
The phone rang and
it was Charles Shaw.
831
00:53:31,836 --> 00:53:33,471
And I didn't know who he was,
832
00:53:33,571 --> 00:53:35,506
and he said, "I'm the real
singer of Milli Vanilli
833
00:53:35,606 --> 00:53:37,608
and you have to help me."
834
00:53:37,708 --> 00:53:39,644
So I called Sandy right away
835
00:53:39,744 --> 00:53:41,779
and I said, "I just got this
weird call from this guy.
836
00:53:41,879 --> 00:53:42,980
He says he's the real voice."
837
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,484
"Ah, just a crazy person.
Just ignore it."
838
00:53:46,584 --> 00:53:49,253
It didn't interest anybody.
839
00:53:50,154 --> 00:53:54,391
You get tired of trying to
840
00:53:54,492 --> 00:53:57,462
lead a jackass to water
841
00:53:57,562 --> 00:53:59,430
and make him drink it.
842
00:54:21,986 --> 00:54:24,088
People wanted to believe
843
00:54:24,188 --> 00:54:25,856
they are really singing
these songs
844
00:54:25,956 --> 00:54:27,925
because it was
a good production.
845
00:54:28,025 --> 00:54:29,794
It was entertainment.
846
00:54:31,428 --> 00:54:34,198
It's a magic trick pulled
off in front of you onstage,
847
00:54:34,298 --> 00:54:36,400
and the audience usually
wants to be deceived
848
00:54:36,501 --> 00:54:38,002
in a magic show.
849
00:54:38,102 --> 00:54:41,506
So if everyone benefits
from a scam like that,
850
00:54:41,606 --> 00:54:42,973
including the audience,
851
00:54:43,073 --> 00:54:45,676
it's very easy to
look the other way.
852
00:54:45,776 --> 00:54:46,911
Everyone got his bonus,
853
00:54:47,011 --> 00:54:49,246
everyone was happy to be successful,
854
00:54:49,346 --> 00:54:52,149
and the people are happy to
have this record.
855
00:54:52,249 --> 00:54:57,387
We all together were in
a very nice flow of success.
856
00:55:00,424 --> 00:55:02,192
♪ Mo-mo-mo-money rules
the world ♪
857
00:55:02,292 --> 00:55:04,161
♪ It's still
the same old greed ♪
858
00:55:04,261 --> 00:55:06,797
Successful music is
a great money machine.
859
00:55:06,897 --> 00:55:09,299
Their videos are hot,
their songs are hot.
860
00:55:09,399 --> 00:55:11,235
Singles, albums,
maxi singles...
861
00:55:11,335 --> 00:55:12,469
Buy it now.
862
00:55:12,570 --> 00:55:15,139
The album made
$580 million.
863
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,275
They had sold approximately
46 million records, global.
864
00:55:18,375 --> 00:55:20,444
There was merchandise, keychains,
865
00:55:20,545 --> 00:55:21,679
ticket sales to the concerts.
866
00:55:21,779 --> 00:55:23,714
It's Milli Vanilli.
Milli Vanilli!
867
00:55:23,814 --> 00:55:25,783
What a show. What a night.
868
00:55:25,883 --> 00:55:27,585
We're going to
a Milli Vanilli concert.
869
00:55:27,685 --> 00:55:31,789
They could've recorded
the alphabet, the phonebook.
870
00:55:31,889 --> 00:55:34,058
You name it,
they were selling it.
871
00:55:34,158 --> 00:55:35,359
Their logo is
the running man
872
00:55:35,459 --> 00:55:38,295
and it symbolizes
the pursuit of success.
873
00:55:38,395 --> 00:55:40,097
If they do any better
next year,
874
00:55:40,197 --> 00:55:42,232
they're gonna have
to find a new logo.
875
00:55:42,332 --> 00:55:44,334
At that time,
Frank Farian was worth
876
00:55:44,434 --> 00:55:46,103
almost half a billion.
877
00:55:46,203 --> 00:55:49,306
♪ Money rules the world and
don't you love that cash? ♪
878
00:55:49,406 --> 00:55:51,809
They continued to steamroll
through the end of the year.
879
00:55:51,909 --> 00:55:54,344
And the winner is...
Milli Vanilli.
880
00:55:54,444 --> 00:55:55,880
They won three
American Music Awards...
881
00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:57,514
Milli Vanilli.
882
00:55:58,115 --> 00:55:59,784
Milli Vanilli!
883
00:55:59,884 --> 00:56:01,819
This train was moving.
884
00:56:01,919 --> 00:56:05,022
Thank you to our producer,
Frank Farian,
885
00:56:05,122 --> 00:56:06,757
to our manager, Sandy Gallin.
886
00:56:06,857 --> 00:56:08,893
We'd like to thank
Clive Davis.
887
00:56:08,993 --> 00:56:10,961
♪ Money rules the world
888
00:56:11,061 --> 00:56:12,997
Arista, BMG,
889
00:56:13,097 --> 00:56:16,601
they were cashing in
the bucks.
890
00:56:16,701 --> 00:56:18,168
♪ Money, money
891
00:56:18,268 --> 00:56:20,070
And the whole thing with
Milli Vanilli
892
00:56:20,170 --> 00:56:21,438
would have kept going if
893
00:56:21,538 --> 00:56:25,009
they had not been nominated
for the Grammys.
894
00:56:27,945 --> 00:56:30,347
Well, because--
no, but, see,
895
00:56:30,447 --> 00:56:34,151
most everybody knew
the secret, and I didn't.
896
00:56:34,251 --> 00:56:35,720
They never told me this,
897
00:56:35,820 --> 00:56:38,823
so I just assumed they sang,
you know?
898
00:56:40,424 --> 00:56:43,160
So we're at a conference
meeting and I said,
899
00:56:43,260 --> 00:56:45,262
"I think Milli Vanilli could
get nominated for a Grammy."
900
00:56:45,362 --> 00:56:47,364
I thought "Blame It On
The Rain" was a Grammy song.
901
00:56:47,464 --> 00:56:49,433
They laughed at me and
they're like, "Trust me,
902
00:56:49,533 --> 00:56:52,703
Milli Vanilli's never gonna
get nominated for a Grammy."
903
00:56:52,803 --> 00:56:54,672
So I called
National Academy of
904
00:56:54,772 --> 00:56:56,206
Recording Arts and Sciences.
905
00:56:56,306 --> 00:56:57,975
They put me right through
to Mike Greene's office,
906
00:56:58,075 --> 00:57:00,577
the president of NARAS.
907
00:57:00,678 --> 00:57:03,513
I had no idea how somebody
actually does get nominated,
908
00:57:03,614 --> 00:57:05,515
and he said,
"Oh, you just put it on
909
00:57:05,616 --> 00:57:07,618
"your management company letterhead,
910
00:57:07,718 --> 00:57:10,755
'please consider
Milli Vanilli for a Grammy.'"
911
00:57:10,855 --> 00:57:13,991
So I typed it up and faxed it
off to the Academy.
912
00:57:14,091 --> 00:57:16,393
Never thought another thing
about it.
913
00:57:16,493 --> 00:57:20,130
So when that ballot came out
and Milli Vanilli was on it,
914
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:23,333
like, just everything
hit the fan.
915
00:57:23,433 --> 00:57:25,970
Clive called Sandy
and threw a hissy fit,
916
00:57:26,070 --> 00:57:28,706
and then Sandy called me
absolutely furious,
917
00:57:28,806 --> 00:57:30,808
like, "Look what you've done!"
918
00:57:30,908 --> 00:57:32,476
I'm like,
919
00:57:32,576 --> 00:57:34,712
"why doesn't anybody want them
to have a Grammy award?"
920
00:57:42,186 --> 00:57:45,155
If Milli Vanilli had
been nominated for
921
00:57:45,255 --> 00:57:47,424
the lip-sync awards,
that would've been fine,
922
00:57:47,524 --> 00:57:52,062
but they got nominated for
this prestigious musical award
923
00:57:52,162 --> 00:57:54,098
and they were up against
people who produce music
924
00:57:54,198 --> 00:57:56,100
and write music and sing.
925
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,567
They were up against
the Indigo Girls...
926
00:57:57,668 --> 00:58:01,806
♪ Closer I am to fine
927
00:58:01,906 --> 00:58:03,774
This incredible folk duo
who sang
928
00:58:03,874 --> 00:58:06,043
these beautiful, deep songs.
929
00:58:07,277 --> 00:58:08,846
They were up against Tone Loc.
930
00:58:08,946 --> 00:58:10,480
♪ Funky Cold Medina
931
00:58:10,580 --> 00:58:13,483
Tone Loc made brilliantly
constructed records,
932
00:58:13,583 --> 00:58:16,186
full of incredibly clever
rhythmic artifice.
933
00:58:16,286 --> 00:58:18,288
- * Sweetness
- Neneh Cherry, who had
934
00:58:18,388 --> 00:58:21,391
a really interesting debut
album and had a lot to say.
935
00:58:21,491 --> 00:58:22,993
♪ We always hang in
a buffalo stance ♪
936
00:58:23,093 --> 00:58:25,162
♪ Back to life
937
00:58:25,262 --> 00:58:29,499
Soul II Soul changed
the way R&B music sounded.
938
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:32,136
They changed the way
music moved.
939
00:58:32,236 --> 00:58:35,072
And so, if I'm one of those artists,
940
00:58:35,172 --> 00:58:36,606
I'm like, "These guys?"
941
00:58:39,509 --> 00:58:44,414
We knew that the Grammys
were the highest standard.
942
00:58:47,384 --> 00:58:51,555
Then here we were,
you know, Rob and Fab.
943
00:58:51,655 --> 00:58:56,593
Not only that,
they want us to perform live.
944
00:58:56,693 --> 00:59:00,497
I thought, how the hell are
they going to do the Grammys
945
00:59:00,597 --> 00:59:02,099
when it's all live?
946
00:59:06,603 --> 00:59:08,638
Live-sing.
947
00:59:21,251 --> 00:59:24,421
Michael Greene was
the head of NARAS at the time.
948
00:59:24,521 --> 00:59:29,159
I remember taking a picture
with him, and him saying,
949
00:59:29,259 --> 00:59:31,962
"Be sure you do it right
tonight."
950
00:59:34,164 --> 00:59:36,300
Money, money, money
makes the world go 'round.
951
00:59:43,707 --> 00:59:45,309
We're at the Shrine.
952
00:59:45,409 --> 00:59:49,179
I remember getting out
of the car and going in.
953
00:59:49,279 --> 00:59:51,515
On that day, it was pressure.
954
00:59:52,716 --> 00:59:53,517
Ladies and gentlemen,
955
00:59:53,617 --> 00:59:56,120
Mr. Mike Greene.
- Thank you.
956
00:59:56,220 --> 00:59:57,922
This is a great night
for music!
957
00:59:59,689 --> 01:00:01,458
Yeah, boy!
958
01:00:01,558 --> 01:00:04,528
All the stars are
in the building.
959
01:00:04,628 --> 01:00:06,663
Woo-hoo!
960
01:00:07,998 --> 01:00:11,101
Finally, it was our turn
to be on that stage.
961
01:00:11,201 --> 01:00:13,503
Cold sweat.
962
01:00:13,603 --> 01:00:15,172
Well, girl,
you know it's true.
963
01:00:15,272 --> 01:00:18,375
It can only mean Milli Vanilli.
964
01:00:21,846 --> 01:00:23,280
Hit it!
965
01:00:32,556 --> 01:00:34,758
♪ I'm in love with you, girl,
'cause you're on my mind ♪
966
01:00:34,859 --> 01:00:37,294
♪ You're the one I think about
most every time ♪
967
01:00:37,394 --> 01:00:39,663
♪ And when you pack a smile
in everything you do ♪
968
01:00:39,763 --> 01:00:41,231
Performing in front of
the Grammys
969
01:00:41,331 --> 01:00:44,468
with all those artists,
that was nerve wracking.
970
01:00:44,568 --> 01:00:47,972
- * And this is true
- * Girl, you know it's true
971
01:00:48,072 --> 01:00:51,876
All those people who spent
years of their lives
972
01:00:51,976 --> 01:00:53,410
to get to this point,
973
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:55,412
and we got here pretty fast.
974
01:01:09,559 --> 01:01:11,695
I remember sitting there,
975
01:01:11,795 --> 01:01:14,398
and I think the entire industry
knew at that time
976
01:01:14,498 --> 01:01:16,433
that it wasn't them singing.
977
01:01:16,533 --> 01:01:17,935
That was great.
978
01:01:18,035 --> 01:01:20,104
I was actually--I was supposed
to be in that number.
979
01:01:20,204 --> 01:01:22,472
I don't know what--
980
01:01:23,307 --> 01:01:25,209
When he called out
the nominees,
981
01:01:25,309 --> 01:01:27,577
you know, it was like, "Man."
982
01:01:27,677 --> 01:01:29,479
This year, the nominees for
Best New Artist
983
01:01:29,579 --> 01:01:31,949
are making all kinds of music.
984
01:01:32,049 --> 01:01:34,919
Each one of them express
themself in a unique way
985
01:01:35,019 --> 01:01:37,187
that commands attention.
986
01:01:37,287 --> 01:01:40,324
Now, the nominees for
Best New Artist are...
987
01:01:41,225 --> 01:01:43,894
Do Rob and Fab
deserve the Grammy?
988
01:01:43,994 --> 01:01:45,829
Neneh Cherry.
989
01:01:45,930 --> 01:01:47,998
That's a tough one.
990
01:01:48,966 --> 01:01:51,135
We didn't sing on
the record, so...
991
01:01:51,235 --> 01:01:52,369
Indigo Girls.
992
01:01:53,570 --> 01:01:54,804
No.
993
01:01:55,572 --> 01:01:56,306
But...
994
01:01:59,743 --> 01:02:00,978
Milli Vanilli.
995
01:02:01,078 --> 01:02:03,914
For the pain and everything
that we suffered...
996
01:02:04,014 --> 01:02:05,415
Soul II Soul.
997
01:02:05,515 --> 01:02:07,985
And the hard work that
we put into,
998
01:02:08,085 --> 01:02:09,319
do we deserve it?
999
01:02:09,419 --> 01:02:10,720
Tone Loc.
1000
01:02:12,589 --> 01:02:16,226
A very small part of me
says yes.
1001
01:02:18,262 --> 01:02:20,497
And the Best New Artist is...
1002
01:02:20,597 --> 01:02:23,567
Rob and Fab deserved
the Grammy.
1003
01:02:24,168 --> 01:02:25,235
Milli Vanilli.
1004
01:02:35,379 --> 01:02:36,880
"Oh, my God."
1005
01:02:36,981 --> 01:02:39,916
Frank goes,
"Now, everybody's watching."
1006
01:02:51,695 --> 01:02:53,363
Uh, we want to say
thank you very much,
1007
01:02:53,463 --> 01:02:56,100
but we want to say
there are a lot of artists
1008
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:57,767
here in this room,
1009
01:02:57,867 --> 01:03:00,570
there are a lot of artists
outside in the world
1010
01:03:00,670 --> 01:03:03,707
who could achieve the same
award that we achieved today,
1011
01:03:03,807 --> 01:03:05,875
and it's an award for
all artists in the world.
1012
01:03:05,976 --> 01:03:07,311
Thank you very much.
1013
01:03:08,979 --> 01:03:11,415
Thank you.
1014
01:03:11,515 --> 01:03:13,417
It was a joke
that went too far.
1015
01:03:13,517 --> 01:03:16,486
And once they crossed
that line into
1016
01:03:16,586 --> 01:03:20,657
something that
people really care about,
1017
01:03:20,757 --> 01:03:23,827
that was the beginning of
the end for Rob and Fab.
1018
01:03:25,495 --> 01:03:27,797
Once they won the Grammy...
1019
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,803
Once they won the Grammy,
1020
01:03:33,903 --> 01:03:36,340
they hung they selves.
1021
01:03:49,719 --> 01:03:52,422
The afterparty
for the Grammys,
1022
01:03:52,522 --> 01:03:54,924
oh, man, we were already faded.
1023
01:03:59,729 --> 01:04:03,067
I remember having to listen
to Mr. Clive Davis.
1024
01:04:05,402 --> 01:04:07,571
We were so high
1025
01:04:07,671 --> 01:04:09,439
that it took a lot of energy
1026
01:04:09,539 --> 01:04:12,209
to just keep the stuff together.
1027
01:04:15,079 --> 01:04:19,716
Frankly, Rob and Fab didn't
do themselves any favors.
1028
01:04:22,152 --> 01:04:26,056
They were just acting arrogant
and, frankly, obnoxious.
1029
01:04:39,836 --> 01:04:42,772
"I have no time.
Who's Paul McCartney?"
1030
01:04:45,709 --> 01:04:49,713
When they won,
Rob and Fab were way up here,
1031
01:04:49,813 --> 01:04:51,981
these big stars that
just won a Grammy.
1032
01:04:52,082 --> 01:04:53,150
And the bigger they got,
1033
01:04:53,250 --> 01:04:55,852
the more celebrity
they became.
1034
01:04:57,487 --> 01:04:59,689
They had to have Avión
in the limousine,
1035
01:04:59,789 --> 01:05:01,525
sushi in the dressing room.
1036
01:05:01,625 --> 01:05:04,328
They wanted for nothing.
1037
01:05:04,428 --> 01:05:06,963
The stardom made them crazy.
1038
01:05:07,063 --> 01:05:09,766
Rob said, "Oh,
can you turn on my voice?"
1039
01:05:09,866 --> 01:05:12,669
And Frank said,
"It's not your voice!"
1040
01:05:12,769 --> 01:05:15,505
Believe it.
It's Brad Howell's voice.
1041
01:05:15,605 --> 01:05:19,276
He was singing with
my voice during playback
1042
01:05:19,376 --> 01:05:21,411
and believing
that's his own voice.
1043
01:05:21,511 --> 01:05:23,580
They were believing this.
1044
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,616
They started to forget
the reality
1045
01:05:26,716 --> 01:05:28,518
that they didn't sing.
1046
01:05:30,654 --> 01:05:32,055
So they were doing
this interview one time
1047
01:05:32,156 --> 01:05:33,790
and they said they were better
than The Beatles.
1048
01:05:38,695 --> 01:05:40,464
Think about waking up
every day and knowing that
1049
01:05:40,564 --> 01:05:41,965
you don't sing
any of the vocals,
1050
01:05:42,065 --> 01:05:43,800
and then saying you're better
than The Beatles.
1051
01:05:46,136 --> 01:05:48,738
I mean, that takes, like,
giant stones.
1052
01:05:48,838 --> 01:05:52,242
You've really gotta believe
your own bullshit to say that.
1053
01:05:52,342 --> 01:05:55,745
They got caught up in it.
1054
01:05:55,845 --> 01:05:58,148
At that point, they thought
they had the power,
1055
01:05:58,248 --> 01:05:59,783
and they did, to some degree.
1056
01:05:59,883 --> 01:06:02,319
They said, you know,
"We're in control now."
1057
01:06:04,688 --> 01:06:06,690
Millions and millions of
dollars were at stake
1058
01:06:06,790 --> 01:06:10,059
and people depended on them.
1059
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,396
Frank depended on them.
1060
01:06:12,496 --> 01:06:14,598
Clive depended on them.
1061
01:06:14,698 --> 01:06:18,235
Everybody depended on
Milli Vanilli doing their job.
1062
01:06:20,370 --> 01:06:23,607
Frank Farian was already
preparing album number two,
1063
01:06:23,707 --> 01:06:25,309
"Keep On Running,"
and they wanted us
1064
01:06:25,409 --> 01:06:31,648
to get back to Germany to go
promote the second album.
1065
01:06:31,748 --> 01:06:36,019
But Rob and Fab were done.
1066
01:06:36,119 --> 01:06:38,522
We wanted to sing.
1067
01:06:38,622 --> 01:06:41,124
We wanted to come out
as singers.
1068
01:06:45,629 --> 01:06:49,433
At Arista,
we had a weekly luncheon
1069
01:06:49,533 --> 01:06:52,302
in the conference room.
1070
01:06:52,402 --> 01:06:55,905
One day, Clive got a call and
he walked into the kitchen.
1071
01:06:58,475 --> 01:07:00,210
And then came back out
and he goes,
1072
01:07:00,310 --> 01:07:04,281
"They want to sing on
the second album."
1073
01:07:04,381 --> 01:07:08,552
And I remember him saying,
"That's not gonna happen."
1074
01:07:16,393 --> 01:07:18,695
"Oh, but I would like to sing."
1075
01:07:18,795 --> 01:07:20,730
"Yeah, Rob, it's impossible.
1076
01:07:20,830 --> 01:07:22,799
"You cannot sing and
Fab cannot sing,
1077
01:07:22,899 --> 01:07:24,768
so please stop talking."
1078
01:07:26,403 --> 01:07:30,740
We couldn't continue
to be his marionette.
1079
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,942
Hey, listen.
1080
01:07:33,042 --> 01:07:34,711
Done with this.
1081
01:07:34,811 --> 01:07:37,347
So we started to lawyer up,
1082
01:07:37,447 --> 01:07:39,549
and then that's when
we found out
1083
01:07:39,649 --> 01:07:44,087
we signed a contract
for multiple albums.
1084
01:07:44,187 --> 01:07:46,022
We had no clue.
1085
01:07:46,122 --> 01:07:50,260
So to get out of under
the thumb of Frank Farian,
1086
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,162
we played a game
of cat and mouse.
1087
01:07:54,798 --> 01:07:58,201
Our MO was to hurt him.
1088
01:07:58,302 --> 01:08:01,271
Let's push him to a brink
where he's gonna break,
1089
01:08:01,371 --> 01:08:04,073
and then he's gonna say,
"You know what? I'm tired.
1090
01:08:04,173 --> 01:08:06,075
Go away."
1091
01:08:06,175 --> 01:08:07,711
You know, we didn't show up
to the video of
1092
01:08:07,811 --> 01:08:09,813
"Keep On Running."
1093
01:08:09,913 --> 01:08:13,483
And we told him,
"More money. More money."
1094
01:08:13,583 --> 01:08:15,184
He's like,
"No, I'm not doing that!
1095
01:08:15,285 --> 01:08:16,986
What else do you want?"
1096
01:08:24,328 --> 01:08:27,397
They told Frank,
"If you don't give us 150,000,
1097
01:08:27,497 --> 01:08:29,599
"we will go to the producer
and telling them that
1098
01:08:29,699 --> 01:08:32,268
we are not the guys
who singing on the tape."
1099
01:09:02,766 --> 01:09:05,502
The story broke in
"The Los Angeles Times"
1100
01:09:05,602 --> 01:09:06,536
and all hell broke loose.
1101
01:09:16,846 --> 01:09:18,915
Frank threw Rob and Fab
under the bus.
1102
01:09:19,015 --> 01:09:22,652
♪ I knew it from the start,
you would break my heart ♪
1103
01:09:22,752 --> 01:09:25,922
♪ But still, I had to play
this painful part ♪
1104
01:09:26,022 --> 01:09:28,425
♪ You wrapped me around
your little bitty finger ♪
1105
01:09:44,974 --> 01:09:46,876
He basically brushed it off
and said,
1106
01:09:46,976 --> 01:09:48,144
"You know, yeah,
they didn't sing..."
1107
01:09:48,244 --> 01:09:51,314
♪ I just don't know
what I should do ♪
1108
01:09:51,415 --> 01:09:53,116
"And who cares?"
1109
01:09:58,555 --> 01:10:00,023
Very quickly after that,
1110
01:10:00,123 --> 01:10:02,492
the whole train
came off the tracks.
1111
01:10:02,592 --> 01:10:09,198
♪ It's a tragedy for me
to see the dream is over ♪
1112
01:10:09,298 --> 01:10:13,136
♪ And I never will forget
the day we met ♪
1113
01:10:13,236 --> 01:10:14,771
♪ Girl, I'm gonna miss you
1114
01:10:18,274 --> 01:10:20,710
The pop music world's
in shock tonight--
1115
01:10:20,810 --> 01:10:22,345
With the revelation that
pop duo--
1116
01:10:22,446 --> 01:10:23,680
Milli Vanilli didn't sing.
1117
01:10:23,780 --> 01:10:25,148
So, girl, you know
it's not true.
1118
01:10:25,248 --> 01:10:28,117
Well, I am shocked.
1119
01:10:28,217 --> 01:10:30,920
It was the lead-in story
on all the news.
1120
01:10:31,020 --> 01:10:32,088
More embarrassment today
1121
01:10:32,188 --> 01:10:33,990
for the pop singing group
Milli Vanilli.
1122
01:10:34,090 --> 01:10:38,662
Milli Vanilli turns out to be
a lot of phony baloney.
1123
01:10:38,762 --> 01:10:41,765
And it didn't just
hit America;
1124
01:10:41,865 --> 01:10:43,232
it hit worldwide.
1125
01:10:51,941 --> 01:10:53,943
One pop group this week
has been involved in
1126
01:10:54,043 --> 01:10:55,545
a feverish controversy.
1127
01:10:55,645 --> 01:10:57,313
And then NARAS got involved.
1128
01:10:57,413 --> 01:10:59,849
There's too many doubts
that have been cast now
1129
01:10:59,949 --> 01:11:02,986
for us not to go forward and
try to find out the truth.
1130
01:11:03,086 --> 01:11:06,890
The credibility of
the Grammy depends on it.
1131
01:11:06,990 --> 01:11:09,993
Having to give back
their Grammy,
1132
01:11:10,093 --> 01:11:15,331
it's the only time that has
happened in music history.
1133
01:11:16,500 --> 01:11:18,334
There was no recovering
from that.
1134
01:11:18,434 --> 01:11:22,772
The only way that that could be
ridden was to own it.
1135
01:11:26,843 --> 01:11:30,079
Robert Pilatus
and Fabrice Morvan.
1136
01:11:34,584 --> 01:11:36,285
Come together. Come together.
1137
01:11:36,385 --> 01:11:38,488
- Come together, guys!
- Right here! Right here!
1138
01:11:38,588 --> 01:11:41,057
- Right here.
- Straight ahead.
1139
01:11:41,157 --> 01:11:43,693
Fabrice and me,
we lived together in a project
1140
01:11:43,793 --> 01:11:46,262
with two other musicians
in Munich.
1141
01:11:46,362 --> 01:11:48,798
We--we had nothing to eat.
We weren't happy.
1142
01:11:48,898 --> 01:11:52,001
We wanted to be stars.
We want to get up on top.
1143
01:11:52,101 --> 01:11:54,103
So suddenly, this guy gave us
a chance and we took it.
1144
01:11:54,203 --> 01:11:55,772
He gave us a little bit money.
1145
01:11:55,872 --> 01:11:59,442
We were young, naive,
and we believed him.
1146
01:11:59,543 --> 01:12:01,310
It was an opportunity for us.
1147
01:12:01,410 --> 01:12:04,380
We feel really, really sorry
about our fans,
1148
01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:08,918
but we just hope that they
understand that we were young,
1149
01:12:09,018 --> 01:12:11,454
that we just wanted to live
the life the American way.
1150
01:12:19,195 --> 01:12:20,897
Of course. Yeah.
1151
01:12:20,997 --> 01:12:22,932
You're absolutely right.
I was seduced.
1152
01:12:23,032 --> 01:12:24,834
You have to understand
we were seduced,
1153
01:12:24,934 --> 01:12:27,837
we were abused,
and we felt very guilty,
1154
01:12:27,937 --> 01:12:29,005
and we're happy that
it's over, you know?
1155
01:12:29,105 --> 01:12:31,207
We don't understand
that it's us,
1156
01:12:31,307 --> 01:12:33,142
the two little guys
from Germany,
1157
01:12:33,242 --> 01:12:35,344
the victims who has
to play suddenly
1158
01:12:35,444 --> 01:12:38,081
the crux of a trial
that we are not.
1159
01:12:46,022 --> 01:12:48,291
I will describe it like this.
1160
01:12:48,391 --> 01:12:49,458
You get something,
1161
01:12:49,559 --> 01:12:51,494
but for that, you make
a pact with the devil.
1162
01:12:56,065 --> 01:12:57,867
I think you should
go with this tape.
1163
01:12:57,967 --> 01:12:59,168
We give you each a tape.
1164
01:12:59,268 --> 01:13:01,404
You can take it to
a scientist--
1165
01:13:01,504 --> 01:13:03,673
But you could--
1166
01:13:03,773 --> 01:13:04,908
OK, I demonstrate!
1167
01:13:05,008 --> 01:13:08,077
Fuck it. I do it. Let's do it.
1168
01:13:08,177 --> 01:13:11,581
♪ Girl, you know it's true
1169
01:13:11,681 --> 01:13:16,085
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you
1170
01:13:16,185 --> 01:13:18,287
♪ I'm in love with you, girl,
'cause you're on my mind ♪
1171
01:13:18,387 --> 01:13:20,556
♪ You're the one I think about
most every time ♪
1172
01:13:20,657 --> 01:13:23,259
♪ When you crack a smile
in everything you do ♪
1173
01:13:27,631 --> 01:13:29,265
Yeah, I understand--
I really understand them.
1174
01:13:29,365 --> 01:13:31,267
I have to say
I understand them.
1175
01:13:38,141 --> 01:13:41,077
- That's a good question, but--
- A lot of your fans--
1176
01:13:41,177 --> 01:13:43,980
a lot of your fans will be
very upset by the fact
1177
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,150
that the only way
you can explain the charade,
1178
01:13:47,250 --> 01:13:50,119
the farce, the fakery of
the last year, two years,
1179
01:13:50,219 --> 01:13:52,188
is money.
- It's not.
1180
01:13:52,288 --> 01:13:53,890
This is fame--
- There's no other reason.
1181
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:56,325
That's the only pressure
that Farian put on you,
1182
01:13:56,425 --> 01:13:58,161
was financial--
- Do you live in a project?
1183
01:13:58,261 --> 01:13:59,996
Did you live in a project?
1184
01:14:00,096 --> 01:14:03,166
We had no money,
we wanted to be stars.
1185
01:14:03,266 --> 01:14:06,435
We think we are talented.
We love to be onstage.
1186
01:14:06,535 --> 01:14:08,604
That's our first aim.
It wasn't money.
1187
01:14:08,705 --> 01:14:11,240
If we wouldn't have accept that
at the start,
1188
01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:13,076
we knew we would be
still in Munich.
1189
01:14:13,176 --> 01:14:14,477
I would still work at
the McDonalds.
1190
01:14:15,745 --> 01:14:17,280
OK, thank you very much.
1191
01:14:17,647 --> 01:14:19,282
Thank you very much.
1192
01:14:42,138 --> 01:14:44,573
They ate 'em up like sharks.
1193
01:14:45,474 --> 01:14:48,111
They were
the town spectacle.
1194
01:14:50,113 --> 01:14:52,248
New weasel boys of
the record world.
1195
01:14:52,348 --> 01:14:54,517
Did you know they were exposed
for not actually appearing on
1196
01:14:54,617 --> 01:14:55,985
their Grammy-award winning
record album?
1197
01:14:56,085 --> 01:14:57,386
They do not sing...
1198
01:14:57,486 --> 01:14:58,955
- Do not sing on it at all.
- On their own record.
1199
01:14:59,055 --> 01:15:01,691
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh,
you are through ♪
1200
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,463
The response was swift
and it was harsh.
1201
01:15:09,165 --> 01:15:11,034
They stopped playing on radio,
1202
01:15:11,134 --> 01:15:13,169
Arista Records took it
out of circulation,
1203
01:15:13,269 --> 01:15:14,738
and then, to top it all off,
1204
01:15:14,838 --> 01:15:17,173
there were, like, two dozen
class action lawsuits
1205
01:15:17,273 --> 01:15:18,875
from fans who were just pissed.
1206
01:15:18,975 --> 01:15:21,845
A California woman who
bought the album for her son
1207
01:15:21,945 --> 01:15:23,679
is suing to get a refund.
1208
01:15:23,780 --> 01:15:24,981
When I listened to the music,
1209
01:15:25,081 --> 01:15:27,150
I would sort of picture them singing,
1210
01:15:27,250 --> 01:15:28,952
and that's--that's how
I looked up to them.
1211
01:15:29,052 --> 01:15:31,287
They sued them for fraud
and racketeering.
1212
01:15:31,387 --> 01:15:32,989
Listen carefully
to this important message
1213
01:15:33,089 --> 01:15:34,357
about a pending
Milli Vanilli lawsuit
1214
01:15:34,457 --> 01:15:37,293
that may affect your rights.
1215
01:15:37,393 --> 01:15:40,129
I remember being surprised
by the animosity,
1216
01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:41,931
and the amount of anger
behind that
1217
01:15:42,031 --> 01:15:44,000
seemed outsized
for what happened.
1218
01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:45,835
I mean, Milli Vanilli,
to be clear,
1219
01:15:45,935 --> 01:15:48,304
had a largely white audience,
1220
01:15:48,404 --> 01:15:51,507
so a part of the betrayal
that was felt was,
1221
01:15:51,607 --> 01:15:53,276
"I can't believe
I listened to these Black guys
1222
01:15:53,376 --> 01:15:54,510
singing these songs and
it really wasn't them."
1223
01:15:54,610 --> 01:15:55,979
You're gonna have
a movie now,
1224
01:15:56,079 --> 01:15:58,381
"The Milli Vanilli Story."
Is that beautiful?
1225
01:15:58,481 --> 01:16:00,917
I play Fab, one of the dudes
in Milli Vanilli.
1226
01:16:01,017 --> 01:16:04,754
- * Girl, I love you
- * I love you
1227
01:16:04,854 --> 01:16:08,257
It was really ugly to see
that sort of hostility
1228
01:16:08,357 --> 01:16:11,027
directed at Rob and Fab.
1229
01:16:11,127 --> 01:16:12,762
Rob Pilatus told
"The LA Times" that
1230
01:16:12,862 --> 01:16:16,833
his family back in Germany was
getting harassed as well.
1231
01:16:21,237 --> 01:16:23,572
Management was gone.
1232
01:16:23,672 --> 01:16:26,242
Label was gone.
1233
01:16:26,342 --> 01:16:28,611
No representative of
a major record company
1234
01:16:28,711 --> 01:16:32,949
would discuss them with CNN
on camera.
1235
01:16:33,049 --> 01:16:35,618
Frank came out of it unscathed.
1236
01:16:48,531 --> 01:16:52,235
Rob and Fab deserved to
be called out, certainly.
1237
01:16:52,335 --> 01:16:54,838
But it was weird that
people didn't come down on
1238
01:16:54,938 --> 01:16:57,874
Frank and Arista and Clive
1239
01:16:57,974 --> 01:17:00,443
in the way that
you would think.
1240
01:17:00,543 --> 01:17:02,278
There was plausible
deniability, I think,
1241
01:17:02,378 --> 01:17:03,746
for Arista, anyway.
1242
01:17:03,847 --> 01:17:06,482
I mean, it was easy for them
to say, "We didn't know,"
1243
01:17:06,582 --> 01:17:08,717
and nobody could prove that
they knew it,
1244
01:17:08,818 --> 01:17:10,920
so they got off the hook.
1245
01:17:27,370 --> 01:17:29,005
I mean,
I just know personally,
1246
01:17:29,105 --> 01:17:30,473
that we knew before
the Grammys,
1247
01:17:30,573 --> 01:17:32,575
so there's no--there was
no question about it.
1248
01:17:34,010 --> 01:17:35,344
Yeah, maybe six months before.
1249
01:17:40,884 --> 01:17:43,086
"Why didn't anybody from
the label speak out,"
1250
01:17:43,186 --> 01:17:44,820
is that what you're asking me?
1251
01:17:44,921 --> 01:17:46,389
Yeah.
1252
01:17:46,489 --> 01:17:48,324
That's a--
that's a good question.
1253
01:17:48,424 --> 01:17:50,326
I mean, I can't--
1254
01:17:52,428 --> 01:17:53,930
I have to answer truthfully,
1255
01:17:54,030 --> 01:17:56,665
and I would have to say that,
1256
01:17:56,765 --> 01:18:00,503
that, yeah, I believe that
Clive felt that this
1257
01:18:00,603 --> 01:18:02,605
not only wasn't good
for Arista,
1258
01:18:02,705 --> 01:18:05,508
but wasn't really good for
his reputation
1259
01:18:05,608 --> 01:18:07,877
and for his, you know, history.
1260
01:18:09,946 --> 01:18:13,382
The record company and
industry has all of the power,
1261
01:18:13,482 --> 01:18:15,584
so they're gonna use
everything they can
1262
01:18:15,684 --> 01:18:19,188
to point the direction at
Rob and Fab.
1263
01:18:19,288 --> 01:18:20,924
"Don't look at,
we sold these million records.
1264
01:18:21,024 --> 01:18:24,560
"Don't look at the fact that
someone inside of our industry
1265
01:18:24,660 --> 01:18:27,296
"had to have known
this was going on.
1266
01:18:27,396 --> 01:18:31,034
"No, it's these two guys
who barely speak English.
1267
01:18:31,134 --> 01:18:33,369
It's their fault."
1268
01:18:48,284 --> 01:18:50,019
Not only did Frank have
no problem
1269
01:18:50,119 --> 01:18:52,421
exploiting Rob and Fab,
1270
01:18:52,521 --> 01:18:56,159
but he also seemed to
think them foolish
1271
01:18:56,259 --> 01:18:59,528
and beneath him.
1272
01:18:59,628 --> 01:19:01,897
And just like his lineage of
1273
01:19:01,998 --> 01:19:06,369
treating Black artists as disposable,
1274
01:19:06,469 --> 01:19:11,240
he chose to get what he needed
and disposed of them.
1275
01:19:11,340 --> 01:19:12,741
- We regret it.
- We regretted it...
1276
01:19:12,841 --> 01:19:14,177
200,000 times.
1277
01:19:14,277 --> 01:19:15,945
Lying in front of my mom,
1278
01:19:16,045 --> 01:19:17,313
lying in front of the job.
1279
01:19:17,413 --> 01:19:18,781
- Everybody.
- Lying in front of everybody.
1280
01:19:18,881 --> 01:19:21,985
They were young,
just like me,
1281
01:19:22,085 --> 01:19:25,021
looking to achieve something
1282
01:19:25,121 --> 01:19:27,356
in the music branch,
1283
01:19:27,456 --> 01:19:29,692
just like me.
1284
01:19:29,792 --> 01:19:32,328
So what do you do?
1285
01:19:34,163 --> 01:19:39,302
You followed the light,
but it's the wrong light.
1286
01:19:39,402 --> 01:19:43,006
At the end of the tunnel,
the light goes out,
1287
01:19:43,106 --> 01:19:46,142
and what happens?
1288
01:19:46,242 --> 01:19:49,012
Don't nobody care.
1289
01:19:51,180 --> 01:19:54,750
It's just another scandal.
1290
01:19:54,850 --> 01:19:57,486
And the number one new job
for Milli Vanilli, "Who cares?
1291
01:19:57,586 --> 01:20:00,589
Just as long as we don't
hear from them ever again."
1292
01:21:02,185 --> 01:21:04,253
Just when you thought
there couldn't possibly be
1293
01:21:04,353 --> 01:21:05,688
another twist to the story--
1294
01:21:17,866 --> 01:21:20,836
So, you know,
the thing about Frank,
1295
01:21:20,936 --> 01:21:22,838
he's always a step ahead
of everybody, right?
1296
01:21:25,408 --> 01:21:27,576
He had already recorded
the second record,
1297
01:21:27,676 --> 01:21:29,145
and he dropped it,
1298
01:21:29,245 --> 01:21:31,280
like, right after
this whole thing blew up.
1299
01:21:34,750 --> 01:21:36,685
Frank Farian called me up
and said,
1300
01:21:36,785 --> 01:21:40,323
"John, now you and Brad are
gonna be stars of the show."
1301
01:21:40,423 --> 01:21:42,591
♪ Elaborate on the microphone
1302
01:21:42,691 --> 01:21:44,493
♪ Pumping some knowledge
'cause my brain ain't stoned ♪
1303
01:21:44,593 --> 01:21:46,129
It's called
The Real Milli Vanilli,
1304
01:21:46,229 --> 01:21:48,464
"The Moment of Truth."
1305
01:21:48,564 --> 01:21:52,435
But again,
it's all another facade.
1306
01:21:52,535 --> 01:21:54,036
This guy was never
in the band.
1307
01:21:54,137 --> 01:21:56,839
He's just another guy
who Frank recruited.
1308
01:21:56,939 --> 01:21:58,941
That girl had nothing to
do with the first album,
1309
01:21:59,041 --> 01:22:01,344
she had nothing to do with
the second album.
1310
01:22:01,444 --> 01:22:04,980
We are still on that album,
Jodie and I.
1311
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:09,452
But Frank said, no touring,
no video, no being seen.
1312
01:22:09,552 --> 01:22:11,720
♪ Listen to what he says
1313
01:22:11,820 --> 01:22:12,955
"Linda, hope you understand.
1314
01:22:13,055 --> 01:22:14,357
"I have a certain
look that I want.
1315
01:22:14,457 --> 01:22:15,858
You're not Black."
1316
01:22:15,958 --> 01:22:18,060
♪ I'm not into bragging,
strutting, or bigotry ♪
1317
01:22:18,161 --> 01:22:19,928
♪ Or bigotry
1318
01:22:20,028 --> 01:22:22,465
Don't ask me how I felt.
Well, go ahead, ask me.
1319
01:22:22,565 --> 01:22:24,333
- Yeah, how did you feel?
- I felt horrible!
1320
01:22:24,433 --> 01:22:26,135
Oh, I was incensed.
1321
01:22:26,235 --> 01:22:29,872
♪ Keep on running, baby
1322
01:22:29,972 --> 01:22:32,241
You've got to be kidding me.
1323
01:22:32,341 --> 01:22:35,043
It was almost as big a lie
as the first Milli Vanilli.
1324
01:22:35,144 --> 01:22:36,645
♪ Keep on running
1325
01:22:36,745 --> 01:22:39,148
- This was Frank's MO.
- * Baby
1326
01:22:39,248 --> 01:22:41,083
He already did Boney M.,
1327
01:22:41,184 --> 01:22:44,853
and then Milli Vanilli,
and he's like, "Hey, man,
1328
01:22:44,953 --> 01:22:46,889
this is
my 'Fast and Furious 10'."
1329
01:22:46,989 --> 01:22:48,391
I'm just gonna keep
making these things
1330
01:22:48,491 --> 01:22:50,493
because you love 'em,"
1331
01:22:50,593 --> 01:22:54,197
so why would
he change his stripes?
1332
01:22:58,267 --> 01:23:01,370
Do you know what they are
doing now, Rob and Fab?
1333
01:23:01,470 --> 01:23:03,105
Well, they have
a new single out--
1334
01:23:03,206 --> 01:23:05,374
- It's not out yet.
- It's not out actually.
1335
01:23:05,474 --> 01:23:06,909
They don't--
they don't have a label.
1336
01:23:07,009 --> 01:23:09,011
A lot of record companies are
scared to touch them right now
1337
01:23:09,111 --> 01:23:11,280
because, well, if you know
somebody can't sing,
1338
01:23:11,380 --> 01:23:12,581
why produce them?
1339
01:23:12,681 --> 01:23:15,083
So you want to sing
a little bit for us?
1340
01:23:15,184 --> 01:23:17,586
Yeah, we come in here
with our live band
1341
01:23:17,686 --> 01:23:18,687
and we would love to sing.
1342
01:23:18,787 --> 01:23:20,155
No, how about right now?
1343
01:23:20,256 --> 01:23:21,557
Sing something off your album.
1344
01:23:21,657 --> 01:23:24,026
- Um...
1345
01:23:24,126 --> 01:23:25,928
Some of the verse from
the first single?
1346
01:23:26,028 --> 01:23:28,531
Uh, yeah, OK.
1347
01:23:28,631 --> 01:23:31,133
♪ Girl
Back together.
1348
01:23:31,234 --> 01:23:32,435
♪ Girl
1349
01:23:32,535 --> 01:23:36,672
both:
♪ Do you want to get it on
1350
01:23:36,772 --> 01:23:40,776
♪ Then tell me now
1351
01:23:42,077 --> 01:23:44,447
Now Rob and Fab are
courageously trying to
1352
01:23:44,547 --> 01:23:47,049
make a comeback,
real voices and all.
1353
01:23:47,149 --> 01:23:50,353
both: * I just want to be
your everything ♪
1354
01:23:50,453 --> 01:23:52,955
For the last year, they've
been working on a new album,
1355
01:23:53,055 --> 01:23:55,458
on the dance steps,
and on the singing.
1356
01:23:55,558 --> 01:23:57,726
They've got a new sexy video.
1357
01:23:57,826 --> 01:24:01,697
♪ Girl, can you tell me now
1358
01:24:01,797 --> 01:24:04,333
♪ Straight up what's up
1359
01:24:04,433 --> 01:24:06,469
♪ So what's a man
supposed to do ♪
1360
01:24:06,569 --> 01:24:11,874
♪ Oh
- * Do you want to get it on
1361
01:24:13,075 --> 01:24:15,711
So this is
the "We Can Get It On"
1362
01:24:15,811 --> 01:24:19,382
12 inch LP single by Rob & Fab.
1363
01:24:19,482 --> 01:24:21,517
They're just, like, badasses,
you know?
1364
01:24:21,617 --> 01:24:23,552
They're like,
"Yeah, we're hot. We know it."
1365
01:24:26,255 --> 01:24:30,192
The expectation of the record
was based on curiosity alone
1366
01:24:30,293 --> 01:24:33,862
they could sell a million
copies of the record.
1367
01:24:33,962 --> 01:24:39,001
But the Rob & Fab album
sold 2,000 copies worldwide,
1368
01:24:39,101 --> 01:24:42,871
which is not good.
1369
01:24:42,971 --> 01:24:45,841
By the time the
Rob & Fab record came out,
1370
01:24:45,941 --> 01:24:48,176
people were just
not that interested
1371
01:24:48,277 --> 01:24:49,478
in the spectacle anymore.
1372
01:25:07,863 --> 01:25:14,537
That's when we... grew apart.
1373
01:25:14,637 --> 01:25:18,841
Rob was going in
his own tunnel
1374
01:25:18,941 --> 01:25:21,744
and didn't want to come out, really.
1375
01:25:39,728 --> 01:25:44,299
The team Rob and Fab
had fractured.
1376
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:49,772
He didn't see me as--
as his brother anymore.
1377
01:25:49,872 --> 01:25:52,140
And that hurt.
1378
01:26:24,373 --> 01:26:26,241
Now, where have you been
for the past six years?
1379
01:26:26,341 --> 01:26:28,176
Well, the past six years,
I was in Los Angeles
1380
01:26:28,276 --> 01:26:29,778
undercover, you know,
doing my thing.
1381
01:26:29,878 --> 01:26:31,346
You have an accent.
Where are you from?
1382
01:26:31,447 --> 01:26:32,347
I'm from Paris. I'm French.
1383
01:26:32,448 --> 01:26:33,682
- From Paris.
- Yeah.
1384
01:26:33,782 --> 01:26:35,418
Now, listen,
you've got some new music...
1385
01:26:35,518 --> 01:26:36,785
That's true, yeah.
1386
01:26:36,885 --> 01:26:38,954
And you are actually singing
on this damn thing.
1387
01:26:39,054 --> 01:26:40,823
- That's right.
- Yeah.
1388
01:26:40,923 --> 01:26:43,025
Put it together
for Fabrice Morvan.
1389
01:26:44,927 --> 01:26:47,896
♪ Come on, children
1390
01:26:47,996 --> 01:26:50,633
both:
♪ If you see what I see
1391
01:26:50,733 --> 01:26:53,035
♪ And you know what I feel
1392
01:26:53,135 --> 01:26:55,170
For me,
performing was vindication.
1393
01:26:55,270 --> 01:26:58,807
both:
♪ And we'll find a solution
1394
01:26:58,907 --> 01:27:01,910
I was able to, like,
blossom as a singer
1395
01:27:02,010 --> 01:27:04,246
and do what I was supposed
to do in the first place.
1396
01:27:04,346 --> 01:27:10,453
♪ Everybody,
join the love revolution ♪
1397
01:27:12,755 --> 01:27:14,457
- Lovely!
- Come on.
1398
01:27:14,557 --> 01:27:15,824
- Hi, baby.
- Hi.
1399
01:27:15,924 --> 01:27:18,293
Hey, listen.
Do you ever see Rob anymore?
1400
01:27:18,393 --> 01:27:20,629
Well, we don't talk
as much as we used to
1401
01:27:20,729 --> 01:27:21,764
because he's doing
his own thing,
1402
01:27:21,864 --> 01:27:22,898
I'm doing my own thing,
you know?
1403
01:27:22,998 --> 01:27:24,332
We kind of went apart,
you know?
1404
01:27:24,433 --> 01:27:26,201
Bands broke up and
they do their own thing.
1405
01:27:26,301 --> 01:27:27,536
- Sure.
- That's what happened.
1406
01:27:27,636 --> 01:27:28,837
You done joined
the love revolution.
1407
01:27:28,937 --> 01:27:30,739
- That's right.
- Where do I sign up?
1408
01:27:35,844 --> 01:27:40,182
I was at The Viper Room.
1409
01:27:40,282 --> 01:27:42,985
I was outside.
1410
01:27:43,085 --> 01:27:47,690
I see a dude stumbling
across the way.
1411
01:27:47,790 --> 01:27:50,693
As he was falling,
his body turned
1412
01:27:50,793 --> 01:27:52,995
and I looked into his eyes
and I was like,
1413
01:27:53,095 --> 01:27:55,430
"Oh, my God. This is not true."
1414
01:27:58,066 --> 01:28:01,837
I'm looking at Rob Pilatus.
1415
01:28:01,937 --> 01:28:03,606
So I crossed the street,
1416
01:28:03,706 --> 01:28:04,940
I picked him up,
1417
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:09,344
and I said, "Hey, Rob.
It's Fab."
1418
01:28:10,946 --> 01:28:12,715
"Rob, it's Fab.
1419
01:28:12,815 --> 01:28:15,083
Where do you live?"
1420
01:28:15,183 --> 01:28:18,286
And then he said, "There.
1421
01:28:19,688 --> 01:28:22,224
So we ring the doorbell.
1422
01:28:22,324 --> 01:28:23,892
We're like,
"Hey, we're there with Rob.
1423
01:28:23,992 --> 01:28:26,762
Like, this is
where he live, yes?"
1424
01:28:26,862 --> 01:28:29,164
"Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bring him in.
1425
01:28:29,264 --> 01:28:30,833
"It's our boy, man.
We--you know,
1426
01:28:30,933 --> 01:28:33,268
he--sometimes,
he just wanders."
1427
01:28:33,368 --> 01:28:35,538
And I'm like,
"Oh, that looks like
1428
01:28:35,638 --> 01:28:36,805
a crack house to me, man."
1429
01:28:39,107 --> 01:28:43,478
They were doing heavy drugs
in that--in that room.
1430
01:28:45,247 --> 01:28:49,885
I'm not surprised
'cause I heard
1431
01:28:49,985 --> 01:28:52,555
that's what he's been doing
for a long time.
1432
01:28:52,655 --> 01:28:55,457
But to actually see
1433
01:28:55,558 --> 01:28:58,694
my brother in the street
1434
01:28:58,794 --> 01:29:01,129
looking like this,
1435
01:29:01,229 --> 01:29:04,833
and looking back at
my dude in his prime...
1436
01:29:08,971 --> 01:29:12,708
Man, it was like, "Phew."
1437
01:29:12,808 --> 01:29:16,378
I didn't know what to say.
1438
01:29:57,485 --> 01:29:59,688
What'd they do?
They just pulled you over?
1439
01:29:59,788 --> 01:30:01,256
Yeah, they pulled me over, man.
1440
01:30:01,356 --> 01:30:02,625
Unfortunately.
1441
01:30:13,268 --> 01:30:16,371
He was lost.
Everything had failed.
1442
01:30:16,471 --> 01:30:19,574
He had not been satisfied with
anything that he'd ever done.
1443
01:31:27,142 --> 01:31:30,578
He came back from
Oberberg Clinic
1444
01:31:30,679 --> 01:31:35,583
and he stayed at a hotel
close to my house.
1445
01:31:35,684 --> 01:31:38,553
Next morning, 10:00,
I called, no answer.
1446
01:31:38,653 --> 01:31:39,788
11:00, no answer.
1447
01:31:39,888 --> 01:31:41,623
12:00, no answer.
1448
01:31:43,325 --> 01:31:46,161
At 2:00, I said, "I'm going to
the hotel right now."
1449
01:31:46,261 --> 01:31:50,165
And we go to his door
1450
01:31:50,265 --> 01:31:52,835
and the chain was from inside,
1451
01:31:52,935 --> 01:31:56,404
so the house master
has to open it.
1452
01:31:58,741 --> 01:32:03,078
And--and he was laying there
on--on the floor,
1453
01:32:03,178 --> 01:32:07,082
just with shorts.
1454
01:32:09,885 --> 01:32:11,353
Yeah.
1455
01:32:11,453 --> 01:32:12,821
And I was...
1456
01:32:53,095 --> 01:32:54,830
The call came in.
1457
01:32:54,930 --> 01:32:57,132
"Rob is dead."
1458
01:32:58,133 --> 01:33:00,268
I was like, "Wow."
1459
01:33:00,368 --> 01:33:04,672
And then I went into, like,
a state of shock.
1460
01:33:04,773 --> 01:33:08,610
And I didn't move for
a long time.
1461
01:34:29,391 --> 01:34:31,826
I lost a family member.
1462
01:34:34,129 --> 01:34:35,964
I lost a brother.
1463
01:34:39,267 --> 01:34:43,838
I lost someone that was there
with me, walking in my shoes.
1464
01:34:48,343 --> 01:34:50,812
You know?
1465
01:34:54,716 --> 01:34:56,351
That's it.
1466
01:35:14,036 --> 01:35:18,140
When I went to Holland,
1467
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,409
I was running away
from my past.
1468
01:35:24,846 --> 01:35:28,250
He'd introduced himself
as Fabrice,
1469
01:35:28,350 --> 01:35:31,553
but I didn't know who he was.
1470
01:35:33,588 --> 01:35:35,390
He had such short hair,
1471
01:35:35,490 --> 01:35:39,327
and he has a different face
when he has short hair.
1472
01:35:39,427 --> 01:35:41,096
So in the beginning, actually,
when we were dating,
1473
01:35:41,196 --> 01:35:42,764
people were like,
"Hey, Tessa, hey, Tessa."
1474
01:35:42,864 --> 01:35:44,899
"Hey, I'll see you tomorrow,"
and, you know,
1475
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,368
I was the one being recognized.
1476
01:35:46,468 --> 01:35:51,739
So there was no signs that
he was Milli Vanilli.
1477
01:35:54,042 --> 01:35:55,443
We had just fun together,
1478
01:35:55,543 --> 01:35:56,911
and we were working out together,
1479
01:35:57,012 --> 01:35:59,447
and we had those dates.
1480
01:35:59,547 --> 01:36:01,516
I start to really
like this guy,
1481
01:36:01,616 --> 01:36:03,251
and you talk with
your friends about,
1482
01:36:03,351 --> 01:36:06,488
you know,
your new dating experience.
1483
01:36:06,588 --> 01:36:08,856
One of them said,
"Dude, that's Milli Vanilli.
1484
01:36:08,957 --> 01:36:10,358
Hello."
1485
01:36:10,458 --> 01:36:11,926
And I was like, "Well, OK.
1486
01:36:12,027 --> 01:36:13,561
"If that's Milli Vanilli, fine,
1487
01:36:13,661 --> 01:36:15,597
because I like Fabrice, so..."
1488
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:24,739
I didn't think she would,
like, want to be with me.
1489
01:36:24,839 --> 01:36:29,277
I had to tell her, "Listen,
my life is not great."
1490
01:36:29,377 --> 01:36:32,147
I was like,
"Well, don't worry, you know?
1491
01:36:32,247 --> 01:36:33,915
I got you."
1492
01:36:38,987 --> 01:36:40,122
You already, Sach?
1493
01:36:40,222 --> 01:36:41,289
Drum roll.
1494
01:36:41,389 --> 01:36:43,891
One, two, and three.
1495
01:36:43,992 --> 01:36:46,828
Flip!
- Oh!
1496
01:36:46,928 --> 01:36:49,031
When Sacha came,
1497
01:36:49,131 --> 01:36:51,366
when Solange came,
1498
01:36:51,466 --> 01:36:56,704
and now Vince and Paris came,
1499
01:36:56,804 --> 01:36:59,507
then things started
flourishing all around me.
1500
01:36:59,607 --> 01:37:01,376
What?
- Hey, Sacha, look!
1501
01:37:01,476 --> 01:37:02,877
He's holding the bottle.
1502
01:37:02,977 --> 01:37:04,512
That's a first.
1503
01:37:04,612 --> 01:37:06,748
Look at that.
- Cute.
1504
01:37:09,351 --> 01:37:11,653
It's amazing
1505
01:37:11,753 --> 01:37:14,989
to realize that
there is another side
1506
01:37:15,090 --> 01:37:17,125
at the end of the tunnel.
1507
01:37:17,225 --> 01:37:18,993
- Together.
- Together?
1508
01:37:19,094 --> 01:37:22,264
- Pink.
- You want pink? OK.
1509
01:37:22,364 --> 01:37:24,532
It changed everything for me,
1510
01:37:24,632 --> 01:37:26,934
and that part was like,
"Hey..."
1511
01:37:27,035 --> 01:37:28,436
Well done, Sach.
1512
01:37:28,536 --> 01:37:32,207
"You don't have to be ashamed
about nothing."
1513
01:37:39,981 --> 01:37:41,549
Because of the way
human beings and
1514
01:37:41,649 --> 01:37:44,686
their minds are built,
1515
01:37:44,786 --> 01:37:49,891
Milli Vanilli's legacy is
they deceived the public
1516
01:37:49,991 --> 01:37:53,828
and tried to get away with it,
and then they didn't.
1517
01:37:53,928 --> 01:37:58,166
But what it should be
is a cautionary tale.
1518
01:38:01,169 --> 01:38:04,372
All of the answers about
how pop music is made
1519
01:38:04,472 --> 01:38:08,042
rest in this story.
1520
01:38:08,143 --> 01:38:12,314
What we want to believe
our pop musicians to be
1521
01:38:12,414 --> 01:38:13,848
versus what they actually are.
1522
01:38:17,685 --> 01:38:22,824
Show business is all part of
an illusion.
1523
01:38:22,924 --> 01:38:26,328
But that is what pop music
is supposed to do.
1524
01:38:26,428 --> 01:38:29,131
It's supposed to take us to
an elsewhere.
1525
01:38:31,633 --> 01:38:35,303
Even if we say, "These people
deceived the public,"
1526
01:38:35,403 --> 01:38:37,038
so fucking what?
1527
01:38:39,174 --> 01:38:40,742
Who was this harming?
1528
01:38:45,413 --> 01:38:48,650
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, I love you
1529
01:38:48,750 --> 01:38:51,219
I've met people that told me,
1530
01:38:51,319 --> 01:38:53,655
"Because of your voice,
1531
01:38:53,755 --> 01:38:56,224
my daughter's here today."
1532
01:38:57,759 --> 01:39:01,062
It was such a big thing
for a lot of people.
1533
01:39:01,163 --> 01:39:05,333
So many people went to their
high school prom with that.
1534
01:39:05,433 --> 01:39:08,203
That was good music,
1535
01:39:08,303 --> 01:39:09,704
and it's good music today.
1536
01:39:12,207 --> 01:39:14,376
There's no real crime here,
1537
01:39:14,476 --> 01:39:15,477
if we're being honest.
1538
01:39:19,281 --> 01:39:21,183
But it cost a life.
1539
01:39:24,686 --> 01:39:29,824
It also cost both of them
lives that they could have had.
1540
01:39:33,828 --> 01:39:38,400
And the heartbreaking thing is
that their legacy then became
1541
01:39:38,500 --> 01:39:40,835
that of a punch line.
1542
01:39:48,176 --> 01:39:54,582
There was a time when
I would avoid going in public
1543
01:39:54,682 --> 01:39:59,821
because when I heard someone laugh,
1544
01:39:59,921 --> 01:40:03,090
I always thought it was
directed to me.
1545
01:40:06,394 --> 01:40:12,033
But now I've reached a point
where I've embraced the past.
1546
01:40:15,069 --> 01:40:19,207
I'm proud of being
Milli Vanilli.
1547
01:40:19,307 --> 01:40:21,943
I'm proud of being who I am.
1548
01:40:29,784 --> 01:40:32,820
We're going back down
memory lane with some more.
1549
01:40:35,357 --> 01:40:37,925
♪ Woo
1550
01:40:39,861 --> 01:40:42,163
♪ Got to blame it on
something ♪
1551
01:40:42,264 --> 01:40:45,767
♪ Got to blame it on something,
come on ♪
1552
01:40:45,867 --> 01:40:50,738
♪ Blame it on the rain
that was falling, falling ♪
1553
01:40:50,838 --> 01:40:55,843
♪ Blame it on the stars
that didn't shine that night ♪
1554
01:40:55,943 --> 01:41:00,882
♪ Whatever you do,
don't put the blame on you ♪
1555
01:41:00,982 --> 01:41:04,686
♪ Blame it on the rain,
yeah, yeah ♪
1556
01:41:04,786 --> 01:41:06,721
When people think of
Milli Vanilli...
1557
01:41:06,821 --> 01:41:08,155
♪ You can blame it
on the rain ♪
1558
01:41:08,256 --> 01:41:10,958
The one thing I want people
to think of is that
1559
01:41:11,058 --> 01:41:11,893
when you fall...
1560
01:41:11,993 --> 01:41:13,495
♪ And the rain don't care
1561
01:41:13,595 --> 01:41:14,896
You can stand back up.
1562
01:41:14,996 --> 01:41:18,366
♪ You got to blame it
on something ♪
1563
01:41:18,466 --> 01:41:20,368
♪ Blame it on the rain
1564
01:41:20,468 --> 01:41:24,706
And Rob is part of that.
1565
01:41:24,806 --> 01:41:28,376
I am honoring his name
every time I perform onstage.
1566
01:41:28,476 --> 01:41:32,847
♪ Whatever you do,
don't put the blame on you ♪
1567
01:41:32,947 --> 01:41:36,284
You fall, you stand back up,
and you reinvent yourself.
1568
01:41:36,384 --> 01:41:40,722
♪ Yeah, yeah
1569
01:41:40,822 --> 01:41:43,157
That's the legacy.
1570
01:41:43,257 --> 01:41:48,363
♪ Blame it on the rain
that was falling, falling ♪
1571
01:41:48,463 --> 01:41:50,532
crowd:
♪ Blame it on the stars
1572
01:41:50,632 --> 01:41:53,134
♪ That didn't shine
that night ♪
1573
01:41:53,234 --> 01:41:58,540
♪ Whatever you do,
don't put the blame on you ♪
1574
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:02,176
♪ Blame it on the rain
1575
01:42:02,276 --> 01:42:07,649
♪ Yeah, yeah
1576
01:42:38,846 --> 01:42:41,015
♪ Baby, don't be shy
when you're holding my hand ♪
1577
01:42:41,115 --> 01:42:43,485
♪ 'Cause as time goes by,
you got to understand ♪
1578
01:42:43,585 --> 01:42:45,319
♪ It's you
1579
01:42:45,420 --> 01:42:48,089
♪ That it's with you
1580
01:42:48,189 --> 01:42:50,592
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba baby, in your
eyes I see it so clearly ♪
1581
01:42:50,692 --> 01:42:54,095
♪ That our love is so strong
and you never go wrong ♪
1582
01:42:54,195 --> 01:42:57,865
- * Baby
- * I did the best for you
1583
01:42:57,965 --> 01:43:00,167
♪ So when you're in doubt
and you're needing someone ♪
1584
01:43:00,267 --> 01:43:03,771
♪ Baby, call my line,
call me anytime ♪
1585
01:43:03,871 --> 01:43:06,207
- * Baby
- * I'll be there for you
1586
01:43:08,476 --> 01:43:13,448
♪ I've been searching high
- * High
1587
01:43:13,548 --> 01:43:15,683
♪ I've been searching low
1588
01:43:17,519 --> 01:43:18,720
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba
1589
01:43:18,820 --> 01:43:22,557
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba baby
1590
01:43:22,657 --> 01:43:26,961
♪ Don't forget my number
1591
01:43:27,061 --> 01:43:32,166
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba,
ba-ba-ba-ba baby ♪
1592
01:43:32,266 --> 01:43:36,638
♪ Love is stronger
than thunder ♪
1593
01:43:36,738 --> 01:43:41,576
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba,
ba-ba-ba-ba baby ♪
1594
01:43:41,676 --> 01:43:46,481
♪ Don't forget my number
1595
01:43:46,581 --> 01:43:50,785
♪ Love will see you through
1596
01:43:50,885 --> 01:43:55,523
♪ I've been searching high
1597
01:43:55,623 --> 01:44:00,962
♪ I've been searching low
1598
01:44:01,062 --> 01:44:04,365
♪ Want to spend my life
1599
01:44:04,466 --> 01:44:08,369
♪ With you
1600
01:44:08,470 --> 01:44:10,605
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
1601
01:44:10,705 --> 01:44:13,007
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba ba-ba
1602
01:44:13,107 --> 01:44:15,510
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
1603
01:44:15,610 --> 01:44:17,779
♪ And I dance with you
1604
01:44:17,879 --> 01:44:20,081
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
1605
01:44:20,181 --> 01:44:22,617
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba ba-ba
1606
01:44:22,717 --> 01:44:24,786
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
1607
01:44:24,886 --> 01:44:28,422
♪ Love will see you through
1608
01:44:28,523 --> 01:44:31,025
♪ Ba-ba-ba baby, in your eyes
I can it so good ♪
1609
01:44:31,125 --> 01:44:34,462
♪ That our love is so strong
and you never go wrong ♪
1610
01:44:34,562 --> 01:44:38,165
- * Baby
- * I do my best for you
1611
01:44:38,265 --> 01:44:40,434
♪ So when you're in doubt
and you're needing someone ♪
1612
01:44:40,535 --> 01:44:44,138
♪ Baby, call my line,
call me anytime ♪
1613
01:44:44,238 --> 01:44:46,474
- * Baby
- * I'll be there for you
1614
01:44:46,574 --> 01:44:48,743
♪ You, you
1615
01:44:48,843 --> 01:44:53,447
♪ I've been searching high
- * High
1616
01:44:53,548 --> 01:44:57,852
- * I've been searching low
- * Low
1617
01:44:57,952 --> 01:44:58,853
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba
1618
01:44:58,953 --> 01:45:02,890
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba baby
1619
01:45:02,990 --> 01:45:07,428
♪ Don't forget my number
1620
01:45:07,529 --> 01:45:08,696
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba
1621
01:45:08,796 --> 01:45:12,399
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba baby
1622
01:45:12,500 --> 01:45:16,804
♪ Love is stronger
than thunder ♪
1623
01:45:16,904 --> 01:45:18,072
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba
1624
01:45:18,172 --> 01:45:22,043
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba baby
1625
01:45:22,143 --> 01:45:26,748
♪ Don't forget my number
1626
01:45:26,848 --> 01:45:30,985
♪ Love will see you through
1627
01:45:31,085 --> 01:45:34,221
♪ I've been searching high
1628
01:45:35,890 --> 01:45:41,529
♪ I've been searching low
1629
01:45:41,629 --> 01:45:44,666
♪ Want to spend my life
1630
01:45:44,766 --> 01:45:48,703
♪ With you
1631
01:45:48,803 --> 01:45:50,972
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
1632
01:45:51,072 --> 01:45:53,474
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba ba-ba
1633
01:45:53,575 --> 01:45:55,209
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
1634
01:45:55,309 --> 01:45:59,747
♪ Love will see you through
1635
01:45:59,847 --> 01:46:04,118
♪ [vocalizing]
1636
01:46:04,218 --> 01:46:06,654
♪ Baby, call my line,
baby, call my line ♪
1637
01:46:06,754 --> 01:46:08,923
♪ [vocalizing]
1638
01:46:09,023 --> 01:46:11,593
♪ Call me anytime
1639
01:46:11,693 --> 01:46:13,027
♪ [vocalizing]
1640
01:46:13,127 --> 01:46:17,031
♪ Ba-ba-ba-ba baby
1641
01:46:17,131 --> 01:46:21,803
♪ Don't forget my number
1642
01:46:21,903 --> 01:46:24,739
♪ Love will see you through
1643
01:46:24,839 --> 01:46:26,974
- Is Eddie OK?
- I don't know.