This guy's a bit of me, a very good-looking lad.
Made me feel I was on cloud nine. Guess who is back!
I felt like I knew him my whole life.
(gasps) This is huge.
Seems you've got a target on your back.
This person wants to play a game. Drive quick as you can.
The barrier's coming down, the train's gonna be there!
Let's just get this over with.
Are you taking the piss?
I'm back with my right-hand woman Nella to hunt down some catfish
in the UK and beyond.
Last series, we exposed the real people behind the online masks.
You matched with your nephew - on a dating app? - Ee!
Zack? It's too much.
Is Sarah here? You need to go.
But we never stopped and we always got to the truth.
(gasps) Here we go.
We got a tag! (gasps)
When it comes to catfishing, no-one is safe.
The most disgusting behaviour. This is organised crime.
They called the police on us. (gasps)
Now, more than ever, people need our help
to figure out who they are really falling for online.
An A-list celebrity. This is new territory for us.
You're lying.
She told you she loves you? Yeah.
We're here to get the answers you need.
That's her number!
I'm following the catfish. Oh, my God.
This is insane.
(both) So let's go fishing!
Whoo!
(both) This is Catfish UK: The TV Show.
OK. Setting these up.
For my special guest today.
Unfortunately Nella is not here this week.
Guess who is back.
Hello!
Yes! (laughs)
Look at that. Wow. Hello, lovely.
Hi! Have you missed me? Yes, I have.
I love the fact that we're always semi-coordinated.
Well, I'm the good guy. You're the bad guy.
Can I ask you a question? Yes.
If I get some green hair dye will you dye your hair green?
I'll look ridiculous.
(crew laughter)
Yous all heard that. (laughter)
You will look ridiculous. I will look ridiculous.
Mm-hmm. You can pull it off.
Where are you going with this? You can!
Shall we start? Yes, I think we should.
Wow. Before we have a real problem.
Okey-dokey. We've got an email.
"Help me find Archie." Ooh.
"Hi, Catfish UK. My name's James
and I'm a 20-year-old builder from Norwich."
"Three months ago a cute guy called Archie slipped into my messages
and ever since then we've not stopped chatting
and I can't stop thinking about him."
"Archie is kind, sweet and only a year older than me,
so our experiences are quite similar,
which has been really nice and made getting to know him really easy."
"He only lives about an hour away in Cambridge,
but we haven't met yet, which is getting frustrating
and I'm starting to worry that there's something wrong."
"I'd like to be able to find out what's going on with him
so we can finally meet up. Can you help? Thanks so much. James."
This is the beginning of the... This is the honeymoon period.
When things are, like, exciting. Yeah, but they've still not met.
And if he's only an hour away and it's been three months,
why haven't yous met yet? Yeah.
Right, let's give James a call. OK.
(computer chimes)
Hey. Hi!
- Hey. - How are you? How are you doing?
I'm not too bad. Yourself? Good, thank you.
Right, so, James, talk us through how you and Archie got talking.
So, Archie added me through Snapchat.
Erm, you know, I clicked on his profile.
I looked at him and I thought, you know, "OK, this guy's a bit of me."
He's very good-looking lad.
We were talking for a good hour the first day I added him.
He made me feel like I was on cloud nine.
Like, he made me feel different, compared to a lot of guys.
I don't know. There was just a spark in him that made me feel special,
like I was wanted by him.
So what do you mean "different"? What is the difference with Archie?
Dating in Norwich isn't all that good.
A lot of guys around Norwich just like hook-ups
and I'm more of, like, a relationship status type of guy.
So what's made you think that there's something up, then?
There weren't no phone calls or FaceTimes between us.
Right. Which was quite a shame.
He just wouldn't answer, there was always an excuse.
What were the excuses that he was coming up with?
He was at work on the weekends.
He's a teaching assistant, they work Monday to Friday.
He's a TA? OK.
I didn't really want to believe this.
So he's a teaching assistant - in Cambridge? - In Cambridge?
He's about an hour away from me.
And has he still not met you yet, after three months?
Unfortunately, no. Mm.
Well, we want to help you. Yeah.
Appreciate that. Come to the people in the business.
Great, that's what I'm looking for.
I'd like a relationship to come out of this.
Like, it's very rare for me to find myself with a guy
and see myself having - a future with a guy. - Yeah.
Hopefully we can do that for you. Yeah.
(laughs) You're in Norwich.
So we're going to head over to you now.
Perfect, I appreciate you guys helping me. I'll see you guys soon.
Bye, James. See you soon, bye.
OK! Sounds like they had a really intense few months together.
And that he sees a genuine future - in it. - With this person.
There is a lot of things, though, that I picked up on.
So, like, when he said he's a teaching assistant...
Teaching assistants don't work weekends.
He added him on Snapchat.
Where did he get his account from? Yeah.
Unless there's more to the story? - Shall we go and find out? - Yes.
(sighs) I guess I'm driving, then? Yes.
Shock. I'm learning how to drive.
Yeah, I hope you bloody pass cos I'm sick of driving.
Off to Norwich we go.
James seems like a nice guy.
He's a young, good-looking lad.
I don't want James to get upset, but...
You think it's a catfish? Oh, God, 100%.
I know this scenario.
Gay dating and stuff, it's like rife for getting catfished.
Why do you think that is? Cos it happened to me when I was 20.
Right.
I think we're nearly here. Yeah.
Oh, my God, we are!
(sighs) Oh.
Ready? Shall I knock?
(knocks) Oh, he's coming.
Hi, James! Hi, guys, how are you?
Good, how are you? Nice to meet you. - Hiya. - Thank you for having us.
No worries, come through. Thank you.
Take a seat, guys. Thank you.
So, I mean, thanks for kind of getting in contact with us.
I appreciate you guys coming. Tell us more about yourself.
So, I'm 20 years old, born and bred in Norwich.
Erm, I'm a self-employed builder and I model part-time as well.
I want to talk about Archie. How did he get in contact originally?
Archie added me through Quick Add on Snapchat.
So I started speaking with him and felt like I knew him straight off.
Like, I felt like I knew him my whole life.
We message every day.
He was a gym lad, so he loved to work out, like myself.
Obsessed with rowing for some reason.
Rowing? What, rowing a boat?
Yeah, in the Cambridge Rowers. One of his favourite hobbies.
It's quite a specific thing. For it to be a lie would be quite odd.
Very, very odd. Can we see a picture of him?
Yeah, sure, I've got a few photos on my phone.
So, if you scroll there? Oh, he's a good-looking lad.
Quite tall, well, he looks tall. Yeah, yeah.
He's about 6'2", so... Well travelled.
He does like to travel a lot.
We actually spoke on that level of going on holiday together.
Why did you start falling for Archie?
What was... What made him different?
The way he understood me as a person, very quickly.
He just matched my energy very quickly.
Sometimes I have my moods, but he understood
and he was still trying his best to get to know me.
So, the effort was one big turn-on for me.
The feelings I have for Archie came very quickly.
I knew something serious was coming out of this
cos it's very hard for myself to fall for someone,
even with girls, before I came out.
Have you dated girls before?
Before I came out, I was dating girls.
Erm, and the last girl I was dating,
I came out to her that - I was bisexual. - Oh, wow.
Things ended. But the respect we had for each other...
We just kept as friends and that's when I moved on to guys.
At what point did you think that something might be not quite right?
So, I tried to call him a few times through Snapchat, didn't answer.
There was a couple of excuses.
As these excuses were building up, he would become very blunt,
but then the conversation would pick up between us.
Do you engage with him on any other social media platform?
No. He said to me the only reason why
he only goes to Snapchat is with his job,
you know, he likes to keep a low profile.
Is there anyone else who you feel, like, might be suspicious in any way?
There is one female friend of mine, Lauren, that I was close with,
but we're very rocky, on-and-off. OK.
For, like, I used to fancy a few of her ex-boyfriends
and boys she used to speak with.
She's really the only person
I have got a bit of beef with at the moment.
It is quite an extreme length to go to,
if it is someone that you're - beefing with. - Yeah.
But we have seen that before, so... Yeah. Do you...
Have you had any experience being catfished?
I have never been catfished,
but I have had people use my photos for many different apps.
Guys will message me and they'll be like, "Is this you?"
"No, it's not me." Do you have quite a big following?
Er, so, I have just nearly 25,000 on Instagram.
Great. Just over 15,000 on Snapchat.
Have you got any other information? Like, anything that might be helpful?
For the last I'd say four months, I've had five different incidents
where people have, like, filmed me in and around Norwich.
What?
I have actually got one video on my phone.
Erm, it's only a four-second video.
The arcades the other week with a couple of friends.
So, they stood over here
and, as you can see, they're filming me at the 2p machine.
What, sent you it? They sent it to me.
My Snapchat is an open, public profile,
and it was just, like, a ninja emoji. I'm not new to that,
cos I've had it done four times before.
Same account? No, different people.
They're normal names on Snapchat, but not on my friends list,
cos it's a public profile. So anyone can message me.
Seems like you've got a certain level of, like, a target on your back.
Yeah.
Regardless of what the outcome is, obviously, we will be here for you.
Have you sat and processed,
what if it's someone completely different and not Archie?
If it's not true and he's not who he says,
I wouldn't really know how to process it.
It's going to make me feel ashamed, and quite embarrassed.
Because I feel like I've opened up to a complete stranger.
You know, that's going to be devastating.
We definitely can help, and we want you to send everything you can over.
Any information, pictures. Yeah, fine.
We'll get investigating tomorrow. I really do appreciate that.
Come on, then. Lovely.
Thank you for having us, James. Nice one, guys, no worries.
Cheers, James, take care. - Bye-bye. - Bye.
What's your first impressions of James?
I think he's a lovely boy.
Do you know what, because he is so young and I have been through this,
I do feel a bit protective of him and we need to look after him.
Like, cos not only is he getting weird people sending videos
of himself, like, he's obviously just come out.
Like, I feel like - I just want to protect him. - Yeah.
The situation with Archie is quite interesting.
I mean, the excuses, the minimal contact.
He said he might have a little bit of beef with a girl.
Like, is she hurt?
I just hope that this doesn't have - a sinister outcome. - Yeah.
If I was in James' position, I'm not going to lie,
I would be very scared.
Well, we've got a lot to do today, haven't we?
We do.
Right, what have we got to go off?
We've got James, 20 years old, from Norwich.
He's a builder and a model. He came out about half a year ago.
He's met someone, three months ago, called Archie.
Talking a lot, developing serious feelings.
James keeps on trying to meet up with Archie, Archie finds an excuse.
Also, we've got... Someone keeps sending James videos.
Of him, just... Of him out, living his life.
Yeah. That's bizarre.
I think that we need to dive in now.
Let's see what we have. Right.
"Hi, guys, great meeting you yesterday. I'm really hoping
you can help me find out what's going on with Archie."
"Here are photos I have."
"He rows for a club in Cambridge, but I don't know which."
"This is the number of my friend Lauren,
in case you wanted to chat to her."
"Thank you so much. Speak soon, James."
OK. So James has given us this contact for his friend, Lauren,
who he's... Lauren, yeah.
Shall we send her a text and just say - that we'd love to chat? - Yeah.
Sent. - That sounds good. - OK.
Okey-dokey. We know that he says he rows for a club in Cambridge.
Shall we just have a look and see... Cambridge rowing clubs?
OK.
What about City of Cambridge Rowing Club, right here?
Let's call them.
(phone line ringing)
Hi, this is Oobah calling from Catfish UK.
I'm here with my friend, Nathan.
Sorry, this is probably a bit strange,
but we're trying to identify someone who is in an online relationship
and they've not been completely honest.
We're from Catfish UK.
Basically, we're trying to look for a guy called Archie ***** who claims
that he's, like, an avid rower in Cambridge.
OK.
Cheers, Omar. All right, perfect, thank you.
Thank you.
He is so helpful. Yeah.
James said that Archie doesn't have an online presence.
Yes. But is it worth looking?
Yeah. OK.
Go onto, go on to Snap.
And then, you know, we can try and go from there.
There we go, him. That's him.
Oh, no, no! What, what, what?
Don't add! Don't add! What?
You just added him!
How do you unsend? I don't... just...
We've already added him. We can't. You can undo it.
Watch, watch. Manage, remove friend. There, he's removed.
You made me panic.
(laughs) Crisis averted. I think that was definitely a crisis.
(mobile phone buzzes) Oh. (gasps)
It's Lauren, she's calling us back. Hi, Lauren, you OK?
"Can you explain why I'm getting a call?"
"I think I'm getting accused of..."
Oh, no, no. You're not getting accused.
We've been speaking to your friend James.
He's asked for our help to find someone called Archie
who he's been speaking to, who James told me and Oobah yesterday
that he's mentioned to you.
"I mean, roughly, yeah."
OK. How do you know James?
"So, me and James met about six, seven months ago."
"We bicker a little bit, here and there."
"Hopefully, he's not accusing me of doing anything."
How do you bicker?
"I'll be at a club and like a guy."
"He'll purposefully go up to them,
talk to them, try to take them away from me,
and it pisses me off sometimes."
Yeah.
"Like, you don't go with people that someone else likes, you know?"
If you were going to guess someone who might catfish him,
who would you guess?
"Well, it's definitely not me."
"I kind of need to go, cos I am very busy today."
Lauren, thank you so much for ringing us.
"That's OK. I really need to go now, OK?"
Thank you, Lauren. Cheers, bye."Bye."
That's a bit weird.
Straight off the bat... Mm.
She was very defensive. Yeah.
I'll be honest, if anyone had a motive to do it, it could be her
cos she said that he stole people off her.
Yeah, I don't know. We need to keep looking into Archie.
Yeah, OK.
Should we look into the images? Yeah.
Why don't we search the one with the prosecco bottle in the background?
OK, we're trying the one of him at the restaurant in Italy.
No.
The one at the fountain?
Er, Trevi Fountain? Yeah.
Yeah, nothing.
There's no online presence, no profile. Can't locate the photos.
So what have we got to go off? (phone buzzes)
Oh, we've got a phone call.
I think this is Omar from the Rowing Club.
Hey, this is Oobah.
No-one?
OK, thank you so much, Omar. - Really appreciate it. - Yeah.
Cheers.
How bizarre.
OK, well, that, that... That's definitely something, isn't it?
I've got one thing I want to try.
We haven't got anything through image search. However, this image...
Obviously, this is a well-known place, the Trevi Fountain.
So, why don't we search the Trevi Fountain,
I know this is a long shot, on Instagram,
search in the geolocation?
Oh, my God, Nathan, it's...
One of the most photographed places in Europe.
I know. Absolutely down to try.
But it just seems like we're looking for a needle in a haystack.
OK, there is a, there is a lot. It could be recent, so...
No.
Just have faith, Oobah.
(gasps)
Oh, my God, there he is! Oh, my God!
But he's not called Archie *****.
Kieran *****.
This is huge.
Fuck.
This is absolutely huge. That's it.
I mean, this combined with the way that he's kind of wriggled out
of meeting up with James means, I think...
Yeah. It feels like this is a catfish.
Should we maybe message this person?
Yeah, yeah, let's do that.
OK.
"Hi, Kieran, it's Nathan and Oobah from MTV Catfish UK."
"We're just wondering, would you be able to chat today, if possible?"
"We could really use your help." Cool.
How do you think he's going to take it?
I don't think he's going to be best pleased.
Someone's not telling the truth. That's true.
Who that person is, I don't know. Yeah.
We should go and update James.
I think we should.
Let's do it. OK.
Let's make a move.
OK, so we're probably dealing with - a catfish here, aren't we? - Yeah.
I think that he clearly shared a lot with this person.
So, it's going to feel... Weird.
It's a betrayal, isn't it? It's a betrayal of your trust.
Lauren didn't seem pleased we were getting in touch with her.
True. (phone buzzes)
Oh, I'm getting called. Oh!
Who's this? Who's this? Who's this? I'm just going to pull over here.
Hello?
"Hello. It's Kieran."
Do you mind if we switch to FaceTime? "Yeah, no problem."
Hi. "How you doing?"
So the reason we've got in touch, Kieran,
is a guy called James has got in touch with us,
and he's been speaking to someone - now for three months. - Yeah.
And this person has been using your images,
which is how we've got in contact with you.
Do you know anyone by the name James *****?
"No, I don't know a James."
"Mm-mm."
Right, OK.
"I have a boyfriend, so..."
Oh, right, OK. You have a boyfriend?
"I've been on the end of it where someone has been catfishing me."
Wow. Oh, wow.
"Really not very nice."
"Make sure you give him some big love. Give him a big hug."
Oh, thank you, Kieran. Cheers, Kieran.
Take care.
OK, Archie is a catfish. Hundred per cent.
Now, it's just like... Who?
Who? Why? And, like, what are their intentions?
(sighs) Oh, God.
He really, really, really wanted Archie to be real.
This is it.
Hi, guys. Hey, how are you? We're good.
How are you doing? You all right? Not too bad.
Good to see you again. And you.
Have you been in contact with Archie?
The last time was last night.
What did you speak about? Just how his day was going.
Like, how may day went. Just normal chit-chat.
So we called Lauren, and she did say that yous two do bicker a lot.
Yes. I have fancied a few of her ex-boyfriends,
or boys she's been speaking with. That's caused conflict.
Have you ever got with any of them?
One of them. Wow.
Yeah.
I was completely in the wrong, doing that, so...
OK. Well, next, Archie said rowing was a big part of his life.
Yeah, he really enjoys doing that.
We actually found someone in Cambridge called Omar,
who's very hooked up in that scene. OK.
He went and spoke to - different people. - OK.
He said, with some level of confidence,
that this guy doesn't row in Cambridge.
OK.
Er, yeah, OK.
Yeah, I don't know how to really take that, to be honest.
I think, actually, it's probably better
if you... - See this for yourself. - Yeah.
Right, OK.
"Hey, James."
God.
Oh, my God.
It's probably better if you...
See this for yourself. Yeah.
Right, OK.
"Hey, James. Unfortunately, I'm not bringing very good news today."
God.
"My name isn't Archie, and I don't come from Cambridge."
"My name is Kieran, I'm 29."
"I'm from Dublin, in Ireland,
and I've lived in London for the past three years."
Oh, my God.
"I hate that someone has done this to you."
"Keep your chin up. Lots of love, mwah."
(sighs)
I don't know how to really take that one in.
I'm kind of lost for words.
Yeah.
Wow.
How do you feel? Quite embarrassed, to be honest.
I've opened up to this guy at such a deep level.
It's a passing stranger now with all my dark secrets.
Yeah.
I could trust this guy with my life.
That's how strong I felt about him.
I feel devastated, really. I feel... Yeah, I feel awful.
Is there someone who would try, one, either to hurt you,
or, two, to humiliate you? What about Lauren?
Potentially.
Like, we could keep on going round in circles, speculating.
But it feels like we should contact Archie.
We need to facilitate a meeting.
It sounds better coming from - your phone. - That's fine.
We need to be direct with him. We need to just demand answers,
and we demand that this person - meets us. - OK.
Would you mind if I send - the message? - That's fine.
So I'm going to type, "Hi, Archie, it's Nathan and Oobah here
from Catfish UK."
"We're here with James, who you've been speaking to,
and we want to meet you in person."
"You haven't been honest with James, and he deserves answers
at the very least."
Enough is enough."
Are you alright for me to send that? I'm fine. That sounds perfect.
Sent.
There are people who film you in the street.
That is true, yeah.
We want to figure out if there's a link between
this person that's catfished you,
and the people that are sending you videos.
If it is, it's quite a dangerous situation.
I agree with you on that one. This person knows who you are
and knows your whereabouts. Mm-hmm.
It does scare me, knowing that there are people filming me.
I have to, like, look over my shoulder all the time.
(phone chimes) A message has come through.
Seriously? Yeah, he's just put "Fine."
Fine? Fine?
I think, I think that's quite blunt,
considering what this person has been doing.
That's not an answer. Nah, just a "fine."
Shall we respond? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where even is he? "Whereabouts are you,
and when can you meet?"
This is awful.
"Closer than you think." Whoa!
This person's playing games.
"This isn't a game."
"We've had enough of you messing about with James."
"We want an answer."
"If you have any feelings for James whatsoever,
this is the very least you can do." Yeah.
He's in the chat. He's reading, he's typing.
"Well, now Catfish UK are involved,
they should know how to find me via location settings."
Do you know that thing where you can find maps?
My maps are on for everyone, all my friends and that.
Wait there, wait there.
You have your maps on for everyone - who's got your Snapchat? - Yeah.
Does Archie have... Is that them?
Click on this.
Well, it's near Norwich. "Closer than you think."
Closer than I actually thought. - Twelve minutes. - Shall we go?
I'm ready for it. Let's do this.
Come on.
Another catfish that I have to have an argument with.
Get in.
Right, so this person obviously wants to play a game.
(phone chimes)
I've got a message of, "You've got 15 minutes
before I switch off my location."
"I have a train to catch." Is that a joke?
We've got 15 minutes? It's going to take us 15 minutes to get there.
So he's obviously at a train station near where that location is.
Fuck, it's so busy, man. It is, it's rush hour.
Norwich is quite busy at this time.
They want us to chase them. In five minutes,
this person's going to jump on - the train. - And he'll be gone.
What's the exit that I'm taking off? - Third exit. - Third?
Drive as quick as you can.
When we literally get out, we need to run.
Because if this person gets on the train,
we might have missed the opportunity.
You're going to go right here. Right here, yeah?
Oh, my God, there's - the train station! - Here it comes.
(gasps) Oh, my God! No! Yous! The barrier's coming down!
The train's going to be there! We'll have to park and run.
Oh, my God, there's the train! - Quick! - Just run.
Just go. Go, go, go. Right, straight down.
Oobah, run, fast!
Right, get your Snapchat open.
Yeah.
Yous, I think we've missed them. The train's just gone.
Where are the on Snapchat?
He's turned his location off.
Fuck.
So the whole time, they were on that platform.
Where's that train gone to? Right, let's have a look.
The train we've missed has gone to London.
I can't leave the car, so we can't jump on a train.
We have to drive to London. If we're confident he's going there.
They've turned their location off. They've jumped on that train.
Let's do it. Let's go to London.
Right.
(phone chimes)
OK, I've just received another text from Archie.
He sent you a text? He's sent me a live photo.
What?
It's a photo of him on the train. Yeah, and that's it.
That's it? Is there a message with...
He's on the train? We know he's on the train to London.
We know he's on the train. Do you know anyone from London?
I've spoken to guys from London, but nothing too deep.
I've got really no connections with anyone in London.
I think that the best plan that we have now
is to go back to yours, grab a bag, James,
and we head down to London. We'll sort a hotel.
James, I want you to message them. OK.
Just say, "Look, we're not chasing you about."
"Give us a time and a place to meet you tomorrow, and we will be there."
They do not have the power and the control in this situation.
It's also not a game. It's not funny.
I just hope they get back to us soon,
because we need to get to - the bottom of this. - Yeah.
Morning, guys. Right, so, good news, James has heard from the catfish,
and we have a time and a place to meet them in London today.
So, right, we've got to get moving.
So wish us luck. Hopefully we get some answers.
There he is. Hey.
Nice to see you, pal. No worries.
So, you said that you heard from the catfish.
Yes, it was quite a blunt message I got from him last night.
I haven't heard from him again this morning at all.
What do you want to say to them today?
I want to know why they've done this.
Everything, we went through for the last three months,
did it any of it make any sense, or was any of it true?
Why would they do it to me, - out of all people? - Yeah.
Shall we get a move on? I'm ready, let's do it.
Let's go.
Keep on going for a little bit and, on the main road, go left, I think.
The closer we're getting, the more nervous I'm getting,
the more anxious I'm getting.
Any idea who it could be?
It could have been any guy I've spoken to on social media.
The Yard is literally round the corner now.
You know this place, Nathan? Yes, this is a gay bar, actually.
OK, OK. Right, well, let's do this.
Let's just get this over with. Let's hope they're even coming.
Just remember, - you need to get answers. - Yes.
Here we go.
Who's that?
Hello.
Are you taking the piss?
Just... Just hear me out. Listen to what I've got to say.
Go ahead. What's your name?
Isabelle, I'm James's ex-girlfriend.
I was the person behind the Archie account.
This whole time, the last three months, it's been you?
You've made me look like a mug.
You have made me look like a mug, and that's not funny.
Do you know how embarrassed I feel right now,
through everything I've told you?
No, it's not even funny.
I just need a minute. So, you were...
So, sorry, you... Just wait, just...
What's your name, sorry? - Isabelle. - Isabelle, OK.
Well, my name's Oobah. - I'm Nathan, hi. - This is Nathan.
Can see you're nervous. This is a big thing.
You have betrayed me in so many ways.
Like, I can't even stand here and tell you how angry I am with you.
Listen, we've come this far, and I think it's a waste
if we just don't listen to what you've got to say.
I mean, you have made us trail around from London to Norwich,
to now here.
So, like, we want to find out why you have done this
and make sense of the situation. I was going to meet you in Norwich,
at the train station, but I bailed.
I was nervous. I was scared of you reaction.
Are you the one sending him videos of him randomly as well
when he's out and about? No, I've got...
No, nothing to do with that.
People video me. - Nothing to do with that? - No.
In the arcade, or when he walked him from work?
No, no, no.
OK. So, why have you done this?
After we broke up, I wasn't ready to let go of what we had.
I feel like we connected on such a deep level.
I made the Archie account, because I wanted to see if it was true,
if you were completely done with our relationship.
How long were yous together for? A few months.
We were getting on so, so well.
Erm, and then this bombshell just hit.
And he was like, "I'm bisexual." And from that, I was just confused.
Obviously, I was hurt.
Our relationship was so strong. I didn't want to put an end to that.
I wasn't ready.
I want you to understand, though, this is not me having a go at you,
for him to admit that to you, that he's bisexual,
that is struggle within yourself that you have to come to terms with.
I'm so happy that you came to me and you told me that,
but I was just confused, James.
It all happened so quickly, and it was just hard.
So the creation of Archie was a kind of way of you being able
to have that little bit more time to - come to terms with everything? - Yeah.
It doesn't make no sense to me. We left on a civil basis.
I came out to you and I told you everything and you were fine.
and we became strong friends.
You were the most supportive person.
Through everyone that I told about my sexuality,
you were the one I could go to about everything.
I came to you, and I spoke to you about Archie.
You knew how much I fell for this guy.
You don't realise how hard it was.
You need to see what it looks like from my perspective.
Just broken up with you, but still hooking up with you on a night out.
Still, like, sleeping in the same bed.
Wow.
After he'd come out? After.
Wow, OK. After he'd come out and...
Yeah, after we broke up. That is true, that is true.
I commend you on coming out to Isabelle, and being brave,
but I don't think sleeping in the same bed with someone after...
That's not healthy for either of you.
Can you see how, obviously,
that's going to confuse the hell out of her?
I was still in love with you, James. We were so intense.
I saw you as, like, my forever.
Now, looking back at it, you know, after I came to you,
maybe I was leading you on, because your feelings were still there.
So I want to apologise for that.
It just all spiralled out of control.
You know, this is just really hard, you know, to intake.
We've been through a lot together.
It's just a matter of time to get my head around this whole thing.
What do you want to... I'm so ready to move on from this.
I know it's going to be hard. It's going to be very hard.
I really am deeply sorry.
You've done something to James, which you've admitted wasn't right.
Yeah.
The reasons that you did it, we understand now.
But you've done things that you don't feel proud of,
so... No, not at all.
Whether you guys continue, in what capacity you continue,
that's for you guys to decide. But thank you so much, Isabelle,
for being so brave.
I can see that you've been nervous. James?
Cheers for going on this journey with us, and we wish you all the best.
I appreciate you guys too. Thank you.
It was nice to see you. Nice to see you. Thank you.
Come on, let's get you home. Come on, then.
Thanks, Isabelle. Bye, Isabelle.
(computer rings)
Hi, James! Hey, how's it going?
Hi, not bad. How are you? We're very well.
Obviously, last time we left you, it was fraught, emotional.
What's happened with you since?
After finding out that she catfished me,
there was trust issues between us.
But I would say, in time, we will get back to where we were.
Are yous working towards being - friends again? - We are.
Have yous hooked up since?
No, we haven't, no. Your advice made me wake up and realise,
I was part of the blame, to why her feelings were still there.
You were getting filmed. Have you tightened security on social media?
Have you stopped sharing your location?
I have. My location is turned off. Great.
Doing that, has that stopped the videos being sent to you,
or is that still happening? No, the last video I had
was the last video. Well, that's positive.
James, well, listen, it's been an absolute pleasure.
Thank you very much for the call. See you.
OK!I'm glad things have gone well with him.
Yes. Shall we give Isabelle a call, then?
Yes, let's do it.
(computer rings)
Hi. - Hey! - Hi!
How are you? Yeah, good.
A lot's happened between me and James.
We spoke about things, about us, and I did say,
"Look, we need to keep these boundaries,"
and they have, and we've both kind of moved on.
I've deleted the account. Great.
There's been no hooking up, right? No, nothing.
Yay! Well, thank you, Isabelle.
Yeah, and we wish you all the best.
Likewise. See you, Isabelle.
Bye, Isabelle! Bye!
Ah... I think we actually did a really good job.
Yeah, we did. We smashed it. We're a dynamic team.
Difficult situation. Who pulled them through it?
We did. Let's go.