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‐ It is incredibly rare
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for criminal defendants
to take the stand.
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It's a risk very few take.
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At stake, one's freedom,
or even their life.
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This is Tammy Moorer,
mother of three,
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charged with kidnapping
20‐year‐old Heather Elvis.
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She's decided
to take that gamble.
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Will it help her convince
the jury she's not guilty...
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‐ Or will it come back
to haunt her?
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‐ Take a courtside seat
with the investigator,
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the defense attorney,
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the prosecutor,
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and the reporter
who covered the case.
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I'm Dan Abrams,
and this is "Under Oath."
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‐ Raise your right hand.
‐ Do you solemnly swear...
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‐ I'm being honest with
everything I say to you.
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‐ Do you solemnly swear...
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‐ To tell the truth
and nothing but the truth?
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‐ I would like to testify.
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‐ The testimony you are
about to give...
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‐ The whole truth and nothing
but the truth.
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‐ So help you God.
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‐ And there was
some dirty words.
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I'm not gonna say them,
because I've said enough.
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I can sit here and wonder
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how many married men
you've slept with,
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but I'm not gonna
judge you on that,
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because that doesn't mean
you killed somebody.
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It doesn't mean
you kidnapped somebody.
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‐ Did you kidnap
Heather Elvis?
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‐ No, I did not.
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‐ This case has everything
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that a movie mystery
might have.
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It has sex, lies,
and then all these rumors
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of pregnancy going around,
and the affair.
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People were drawn
to this story immediately,
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and it has held
their attention for years.
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‐ Heather Elvis, a 20‐year‐old
waitress from Myrtle Beach,
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disappeared in 2013
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after having an affair with
37‐year‐old Sidney Moorer.
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She's never been found.
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Sidney's wife, Tammy Moorer,
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stands accused
of kidnapping and conspiracy
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to kidnap her husband's
young mistress.
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Tammy, however, has maintained
her innocence from day one.
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Tammy Moorer and her attorney
have made a big decision.
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She'll take the stand
to try to prove her innocence.
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It is a rare and risky move.
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‐ Did you cooperate
with the police investigation?
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‐ The second they contacted us,
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we have tried to help
in every way we could.
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‐ All right.
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‐ The victim in this case,
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Heather Elvis,
grew up here in Horry County.
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She was an all‐around
local girl.
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She at the time,
worked at Tilted Kilt,
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which was a restaurant
here in Myrtle Beach,
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and she had a roommate,
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and they were sharing
an apartment.
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‐ Heather went missing
on December 18, 2013.
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Her vehicle was found
in this really dark area
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of Horry County
in the Socastee area,
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and it's called
Peachtree Landing.
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‐ Peachtree Landing
is desolate.
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Literally if it was at night
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and you weren't
paying attention
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you would drive right
into the river.
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No public lights.
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Just a piece of asphalt next
to a river on a dead‐end road.
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That's Peachtree Landing,
where her car was located.
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‐ All of a sudden,
you had this very young girl,
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20 years old, who was missing.
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‐ There were big signs
of "Heather Elvis: Missing,"
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and the community was
just trying to find her.
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It was a pretty big situation
out here in Myrtle Beach.
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‐ The last numbers
that contacted Heather
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before she went missing
belonged to her roommate,
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the guy that she had gone
on a date with,
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and Sidney Moorer.
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The only person at the time
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that did not have an alibi
was Sidney Moorer.
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‐ Heather met Sidney
at the Tilted Kilt.
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He had been working there
doing maintenance,
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and she was a waitress.
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Heather was 20,
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and Sidney was in
his late 30s,
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and he was married.
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‐ After Heather Elvis
disappeared,
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my job at the time
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was to examine
Tammy's cell phone
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as well as her husband
Sidney Moorer's cell phone,
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to see what kind of data
could be pulled.
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From June, July, up until
the first part of November,
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there was constant contact
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between Heather Elvis
and Sidney Moorer.
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‐ In early November,
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Tammy Moorer found out
about the relationship.
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‐ And at that point in time,
Tammy confront Heather Elvis
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as to what
the relationship was
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between her and her husband.
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‐ "Who is this?" Received.
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"Nobody you need to worry
about anymore." Sent.
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"It's best you call back
and speak immediately.
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Save yourself."
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"You ready to meet
the Mrs.?"
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‐ Shortly after that
all communication between
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Heather Elvis
and Sidney Moorer stopped.
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‐ There's no contacted between
the two of them up the night
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she went missing
about a month and a half later.
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‐ That night, December 18th,
there was surveillance video
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of who is presumed
to be Sidney Moorer
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using a pay phone outside
of a gas station.
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One thing that prosecutors
struggled with
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is that this wasn't
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great quality surveillance
video of this pay phone.
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It was hard to tell who exactly
was using the pay phone.
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But records show that
Heather Elvis received a call
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from that pay phone
around that time.
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‐ A few minutes earlier,
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about three blocks
from the pay phone,
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Sidney Moorer is also captured
on surveillance camera
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in Walmart
buying a pregnancy test.
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The theory was
that Heather was pregnant.
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‐ Could this possible baby
between Sidney and Heather
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have caused her disappearance?
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‐ Heather called Sidney,
and they talk again
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around 3:00 a. m.
in the morning.
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‐ Heather Elvis then goes
to Peachtree Landing,
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which is probably one of the
darkest areas in Horry County.
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‐ It's not long after that that
surveillance captured
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what appeared to be
the Moorers' truck
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also heading
to Peachtree Landing.
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‐ About the time their truck
would have reached the landing
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is when Heather Elvis'
phone dies,
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and we never hear
from it again.
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‐ But there was some criticism
of this video.
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Again, this was back in 2013.
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This wasn't
very high‐quality footage.
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‐ Look, there was
some suspicious things,
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the grainy footage, somebody
they say that that's him,
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and then the footage
of his truck
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going toward the boat
landing and back.
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All of that could be true,
and it could be true
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that Sidney Moorer
was the culprit.
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But Tammy wasn't calling her.
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No one said Tammy drove
the truck in that direction.
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So if you look at it
like that,
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the case against Tammy Moorer
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is that she's married
to Sidney Moorer,
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and Sidney Moorer
had an affair with a woman.
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His phone talked to her phone,
and then no one saw her again.
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That's it. That's the case.
That's the entire case.
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‐ Now, Sidney Moorer
was already tried
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for the crime in 2016,
and did not take the stand.
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But his kidnapping trial
ended in a hung jury
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after jurors couldn't agree
on a verdict.
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He was set to be retried.
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But if jurors couldn't even
agree whether he was involved
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when so much
of the prosecution's evidence
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connected him to the victim,
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how could they ever hope
to convict Tammy?
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‐ The conspiracy,
which they're charged with,
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it's because they're doing
all this together.
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Tammy has the motive,
but Sidney has the means.
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It takes Sidney
to lure her out.
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It takes them
both working together.
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‐ In the five years
since Heather went missing,
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the public response
to Tammy Moorer
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has not been
particularly sympathetic.
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‐ People definitely
and very effectively
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vilified Tammy Moorer.
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It was never, "The poor woman
is raising these kids,
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home‐schooling these kids,
and her husband's off
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having an affair
with this younger woman."
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‐ So people were shocked
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that Tammy was gonna
walk up to the stand
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and make her own defense
in this case.
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‐ Tammy Caison Moorer,
M‐O‐O‐R‐E‐R.
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‐ When Tammy took the stand,
all eyes,
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all ears were at attention.
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We wanted to hear
what she had to see.
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‐ Tammy Moorer is on trial
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charged with kidnapping
in connection
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with the disappearance
of her husband's 20‐year‐old
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girlfriend Heather Elvis
in December of 2013.
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It's been five years
since Heather went missing
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in a devastating loss
for her grieving family.
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‐ This is a story
about jealousy and deceit.
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"Mirror, mirror on the wall.
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Who is the fairest
of them all?"
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And everything was fine
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as long as she saw
her reflection in the mirror.
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‐ Because there's no body
to even prove
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that Heather died,
prosecutors charged Moorer
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with kidnapping and conspiracy
to kidnap
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since they believe
she worked together
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with her husband to abduct
Heather.
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They portrayed a defendant
motivated by jealousy
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and an unexpected pregnancy.
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‐ When we presented
the evidence,
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the first thing we went into
was the fact
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that Heather may have
been pregnant at the time.
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‐ Heather's roommate
at the time testified that
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leading up to
when Heather went missing
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she had noticed that
Heather had put on some weight.
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She had to buy new clothes
to wear on a day‐to‐day basis.
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‐ She gained weight,
and I know that,
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because she had
to show off her fancy
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new Victoria's Secret bra
she bought.
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‐ She also needed new clothes
to wear to work.
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‐ She had taken
a pregnancy test at one point,
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but it had come back
as an error or inconclusive.
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‐ Prosecutors pointed to this
being a possible motive
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of her disappearance.
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‐ In Tammy Moorer's case,
we've got some rumors
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that Heather Elvis
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might have been pregnant‐‐not
that she was pregnant,
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not that she said
she was pregnant,
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not that we have
a positive pregnancy test.
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So this whole pregnancy thing
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was kind of a manufactured
motive,
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if you will,
as far as I'm concerned.
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‐ The state's case, however,
relied on more
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than a possible pregnancy.
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The night of
Heather's disappearance,
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investigators say the Moorers
were caught on camera
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in multiple locations
around Myrtle Beach.
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‐ Being that the state didn't
have any real hard evidence,
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as far as fingerprints
or blood or eyewitnesses,
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some of the strongest evidence
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that the state
had was video surveillance
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showing Sidney Moorer making
a phone call from a pay phone
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to Heather Elvis' cell phone.
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‐ But it's very grainy.
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It's‐‐it's really hard to tell
what you're looking at.
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And they really had to rely on
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the call records that existed
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with that pay phone
and testimony
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from Heather's best friend
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to really connect
that the person you're seeing
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in that surveillance video
was Sidney.
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Bree Warrellmann testified
that Heather had told her,
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you know, that she had heard
from Sidney
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calling from this pay phone.
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Heather told Bree that Sidney
was leaving his wife,
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that he wanted to be
with Heather,
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that he wanted
to meet up with her.
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‐ My exact words were,
"Do not call Sidney back.
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Don't do anything rash.
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Go to sleep, and we'll talk
about it tomorrow."
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‐ I haven't.
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‐ The prosecution argued
that Sidney may have helped,
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but it was Tammy's plan
from the beginning.
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They painted a picture
of Tammy as a jealous,
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controlling wife.
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‐ Early on
in the investigation
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Tammy has spoken
to an investigator,
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and in Tammy's own words,
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she said that they had
a very open relationship.
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‐ You don't‐‐you guys
don't understand.
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I had boyfriends.
We had an open marriage.
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That's okay. I could care less
if he had sex with 100 people.
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‐ Okay. All right.
271
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‐ I mean, that doesn't
really‐‐that doesn't bother me.
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‐ But by reading Tammy's
text messages,
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she described her heart
as being black,
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that she had lost her‐‐
her soulmate.
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‐ You want me to just start
reading from the very top?
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‐ Yes.
‐ "He betrayed me,
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"and I will never,
ever forgive or forget it.
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"Trust me.
There's zero love on my end.
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I [bleep] hate him."
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‐ A lot of the witness
testimony and evidence
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that was presented
does paint her
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in a bit of a different light.
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‐ "It pisses me off
that he'd [bleep] such a dog."
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‐ She was scared of Tammy.
285
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‐ There was also some testimony
brought up
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that Tammy had Sidney tattoo
her name above his...
287
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‐ When Sidney Moorer got
the tattoo of Tammy's name
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on his lower body,
289
00:14:10,226 --> 00:14:13,312
I did recall hearing,
"If you wouldn't have messed
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with that girl, this wouldn't
have been happening."
291
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‐ There was testimony
that she had possibly
292
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chained her husband
to the bed.
293
00:14:30,413 --> 00:14:32,790
‐ If you ever get accused
of anything,
294
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if you're ever on trial,
295
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you really want to have led
an exemplary life.
296
00:14:40,131 --> 00:14:42,967
‐ The prosecution brought up
text messages
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that Tammy had
with an internet lover,
298
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if you will, of Tammy's,
299
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and some of those text messages
were sexually graphic.
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‐ Another message:
"I want to feel it
301
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inside of me."
Another message:
302
00:14:56,439 --> 00:14:59,191
"You are perfect."
And then there's a message:
303
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"Have you [bleep]
a lot of girls?"
304
00:15:01,569 --> 00:15:04,238
‐ And you're supposed to be on
trial because the evidence
305
00:15:04,363 --> 00:15:07,032
says you're guilty.
You're supposed to be on trial
306
00:15:07,116 --> 00:15:08,617
because scientific evidence
307
00:15:08,701 --> 00:15:12,538
and reliable witnesses say
that you did something illegal.
308
00:15:12,663 --> 00:15:14,707
‐ And there's another message
from the phone:
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"This boy is so [bleep] fine."
310
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‐ Not how you've
lived your life,
311
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whether or not you were rude
on social media.
312
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‐ And then there's a message
from the phone that says,
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"You are making
my [bleep] wet."
314
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‐ And so our position
was always the state
315
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had to go after her character,
316
00:15:31,056 --> 00:15:33,100
because they didn't have
any evidence
317
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that she kidnapped
Heather Elvis.
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‐ In cases like this,
defendants facing
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exclusively circumstantial
evidence stand a real chance
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of being acquitted if
they play their cards right.
321
00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,573
So what compelled Tammy Moorer
to tell hour side of the story
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and gamble with her freedom?
323
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She's facing 30 years
in prison
324
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if the jury
doesn't believe her.
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‐ All experienced defense
lawyers
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would say the same thing:
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do not testify
in your own defense
328
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in a circumstantial case.
329
00:16:05,174 --> 00:16:08,177
‐ There's a big safety factor
in not testifying.
330
00:16:08,260 --> 00:16:11,138
Now, having said that,
the right to testify
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or not to testify belongs
to the person on trial.
332
00:16:22,483 --> 00:16:24,693
‐ If Tammy Moorer is going
to testify
333
00:16:24,735 --> 00:16:30,533
in Tammy Moorer's defense,
that's 100% her right.
334
00:16:42,294 --> 00:16:44,171
‐ Did you, out of retaliation,
335
00:16:44,255 --> 00:16:47,383
handcuff your husband to that
bed to keep him there?
336
00:16:52,846 --> 00:16:55,641
‐ Have you ever handcuffed
your husband
337
00:16:55,724 --> 00:16:59,395
in some kind of,
like, sex play?
338
00:17:06,193 --> 00:17:08,195
‐ Tammy Moorer has taken
the stand to try to convince
339
00:17:08,237 --> 00:17:11,073
the jury she has no hatred
for her husband's lover,
340
00:17:11,156 --> 00:17:14,118
Heather Elvis,
who has never been found.
341
00:17:14,243 --> 00:17:16,370
It's a risky decision
to take the stand.
342
00:17:16,412 --> 00:17:18,998
Will she convince the jurors
that she had nothing to do
343
00:17:19,081 --> 00:17:20,541
with Heather Elvis'
disappearance,
344
00:17:20,583 --> 00:17:24,837
or might she make a mistake
that could seal her fate?
345
00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,340
‐ Did your husband,
Sidney Moorer,
346
00:17:28,424 --> 00:17:30,843
get a tattoo of your name,
Tammy,
347
00:17:30,926 --> 00:17:34,221
tattooed across his abdomen?
348
00:17:34,305 --> 00:17:40,811
‐ Was Sidney forced to get‐‐
by you to get that tattoo?
349
00:17:42,104 --> 00:17:44,356
‐ Was he forced by you
350
00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,276
to get that tattoo
in retaliation
351
00:17:47,401 --> 00:17:50,571
for having an affair
with Heather Elvis?
352
00:17:54,742 --> 00:17:59,413
‐ I believe that it's just
not fair for a person
353
00:17:59,538 --> 00:18:04,543
who is put on trial
to be ridiculed or put down
354
00:18:04,668 --> 00:18:07,796
or being convicted‐‐
"Yeah, she's guilty."
355
00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,426
We don't know until
we get deeper into the trial.
356
00:18:18,223 --> 00:18:20,225
‐ It was Halloween night,
going into November 1st
357
00:18:20,309 --> 00:18:24,063
that morning‐‐
is when I found out.
358
00:18:27,399 --> 00:18:29,568
‐ She called that‐‐
within hours,
359
00:18:29,652 --> 00:18:32,154
the girl called me back
and told me who she was.
360
00:18:32,237 --> 00:18:34,365
I had no idea.
361
00:18:46,794 --> 00:18:51,173
‐ Tammy Moorer and her attorney
tried to present Tammy Moorer
362
00:18:51,256 --> 00:18:53,092
as a woman who did not care
363
00:18:53,217 --> 00:18:55,552
that her husband
had had an affair.
364
00:18:55,636 --> 00:18:59,014
She as 42 years old.
She had three kids.
365
00:18:59,139 --> 00:19:01,767
But she was not jealous
of this very young,
366
00:19:01,892 --> 00:19:05,270
attractive 20‐year‐old.
367
00:19:23,872 --> 00:19:25,040
‐ It was just an affair,
368
00:19:25,165 --> 00:19:27,584
and it was blown
out of proportion.
369
00:19:49,690 --> 00:19:52,693
‐ Tammy's stance from day one
is that she just‐‐
370
00:19:52,776 --> 00:19:54,027
she didn't know what‐‐
371
00:19:54,111 --> 00:19:56,822
I mean,
her point of view was that,
372
00:19:56,905 --> 00:19:58,741
"I don't‐‐why am I here?"
373
00:20:04,246 --> 00:20:09,626
‐ All right.
374
00:20:09,752 --> 00:20:12,087
‐ "Why do they think
that I did something?
375
00:20:12,212 --> 00:20:13,672
And this is crazy."
376
00:20:17,217 --> 00:20:18,677
‐ That was her stance
from day one,
377
00:20:18,761 --> 00:20:20,471
and it's never changed.
378
00:20:23,515 --> 00:20:26,351
‐ And once you went home,
did you stay home?
379
00:20:26,477 --> 00:20:27,728
‐ Yes.
380
00:20:27,853 --> 00:20:29,605
‐ Tammy's given her version
of events, what she says
381
00:20:29,730 --> 00:20:32,316
she and Sidney did the night
Heather disappeared.
382
00:20:32,399 --> 00:20:35,527
Against that, the jury
has to weigh the state's case,
383
00:20:35,611 --> 00:20:37,279
where the most significant
evidence
384
00:20:37,362 --> 00:20:40,073
is a pair
of grainy surveillance videos
385
00:20:40,199 --> 00:20:42,242
that don't show Tammy at all.
386
00:20:51,752 --> 00:20:53,587
‐ As far as the surveillance
video goes,
387
00:20:53,712 --> 00:20:56,340
it's really hard to tell
what you're looking at.
388
00:21:01,970 --> 00:21:03,180
‐ Was there enough evidence
389
00:21:03,305 --> 00:21:06,642
to connect Tammy
to Heather's disappearance?
390
00:21:24,743 --> 00:21:26,620
‐ Was the jury gonna believe
that she was really
391
00:21:26,745 --> 00:21:30,916
jealous enough to be involved
in Heather's disappearance?
392
00:22:22,342 --> 00:22:25,095
‐ While her defense attorneys
questioned her,
393
00:22:25,178 --> 00:22:27,514
she was cooperative.
394
00:22:27,598 --> 00:22:30,434
She seemed to be
this reasonable woman
395
00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:32,853
that the jury could understand.
396
00:23:16,229 --> 00:23:18,607
‐ As a lawyer, once you say,
397
00:23:18,732 --> 00:23:23,904
"No more questions;
please answer any questions
398
00:23:24,029 --> 00:23:26,365
the prosecutor may have,"
399
00:23:26,448 --> 00:23:29,201
now you have completely
let go of the wheel.
400
00:23:29,326 --> 00:23:32,037
It's going to be a rough ride.
401
00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:33,914
♪ ♪
402
00:23:43,090 --> 00:23:45,634
‐ When you're in court
against any prosecutor
403
00:23:45,717 --> 00:23:48,053
that knows what he
or she is doing...
404
00:24:03,568 --> 00:24:05,988
‐ It's like getting
in a boxing match
405
00:24:06,071 --> 00:24:07,531
in a ring with a boxer
406
00:24:07,656 --> 00:24:11,702
who's trained for five years,
and you haven't.
407
00:24:19,918 --> 00:24:23,922
The prosecutor is there
to knock your lights out.
408
00:24:40,731 --> 00:24:42,274
‐ It's late October 2018,
409
00:24:42,399 --> 00:24:45,193
and Tammy Moorer is on trial
for kidnapping her husband's
410
00:24:45,277 --> 00:24:49,364
20‐year‐old girlfriend
in December of 2013.
411
00:24:49,489 --> 00:24:50,866
Her direct examination
went well,
412
00:24:50,991 --> 00:24:53,869
but few defendants ever take
the stand
413
00:24:53,994 --> 00:24:56,997
in large part because the
prosecution gets a turn too.
414
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,584
The real danger in testifying
is the cross‐examination.
415
00:25:00,709 --> 00:25:04,171
‐ When I got up to
cross‐examine Tammy Moorer,
416
00:25:04,296 --> 00:25:08,341
I knew that that was the moment
that everybody in Horry County
417
00:25:08,467 --> 00:25:09,676
had been waiting for.
418
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,971
Now, you do know
who Heather Elvis is, correct?
419
00:25:13,055 --> 00:25:16,391
‐ I do.
She's a very pretty girl.
420
00:25:16,516 --> 00:25:18,018
‐ This is her?
‐ Yes.
421
00:25:18,101 --> 00:25:20,103
‐ And is this the way
you saw her?
422
00:25:20,228 --> 00:25:23,523
‐ I've never seen her.
That's a picture. Yes.
423
00:25:23,607 --> 00:25:26,318
‐ I think she was
a little tired by that time.
424
00:25:26,401 --> 00:25:27,819
And like all of us,
425
00:25:27,903 --> 00:25:30,447
that's when our true colors
kind of start coming out.
426
00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:33,992
On the phone records, it showed
where you called Heather Elvis
427
00:25:34,076 --> 00:25:36,828
and blocked your number.
Do you remember that?
428
00:25:36,912 --> 00:25:38,705
‐ I probably did that night...
‐ Okay.
429
00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:41,958
‐ Trying to get her to answer.
430
00:25:49,883 --> 00:25:53,095
‐ When Tammy was on the stand,
I thought,
431
00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:55,847
"Okay, you know, this girl
has to have it together,
432
00:25:55,931 --> 00:25:58,683
because
her life is on the line."
433
00:25:58,767 --> 00:26:00,268
‐ I didn't talk to her
till the next day.
434
00:26:00,393 --> 00:26:02,187
She was at work
when she called me.
435
00:26:05,816 --> 00:26:07,359
‐ She called the person
436
00:26:07,484 --> 00:26:09,152
that was trying
to find out who she was.
437
00:26:09,236 --> 00:26:11,279
She didn't hang up on me
when she called me or anything.
438
00:26:11,404 --> 00:26:14,533
It was a nice conversation.
She was a nice girl.
439
00:26:14,574 --> 00:26:16,952
She wasn't mean to me.
I wasn't mean to her.
440
00:26:18,245 --> 00:26:20,205
‐ I was not mean to her
in that conversation.
441
00:26:20,288 --> 00:26:23,041
‐ So before that phone call,
you texted her,
442
00:26:23,125 --> 00:26:25,418
"You can tell me
who you are right now,
443
00:26:25,544 --> 00:26:27,087
"or I will find out
another way.
444
00:26:27,212 --> 00:26:30,757
That way won't have
a great turnout for you."
445
00:26:33,301 --> 00:26:35,595
‐ I think it was good
for Tammy
446
00:26:35,679 --> 00:26:40,058
to be out there
to tell her story.
447
00:26:40,183 --> 00:26:41,351
‐ And she wrote you back,
448
00:26:41,434 --> 00:26:43,854
"Nobody you need
to worry about anymore."
449
00:26:43,979 --> 00:26:46,022
‐ Because she knew
she was having an affair
450
00:26:46,148 --> 00:26:47,023
and he was married.
451
00:26:47,107 --> 00:26:48,483
I didn't know anything
about it.
452
00:26:48,567 --> 00:26:49,943
I had no clue
about any of this.
453
00:26:50,026 --> 00:26:53,780
‐ So we can compare it
to what Nancy‐‐
454
00:26:53,864 --> 00:26:57,701
the prosecution‐‐
had presented to us,
455
00:26:57,826 --> 00:26:59,786
so we can put them
kind of together.
456
00:26:59,870 --> 00:27:02,455
‐ Again, she's telling you,
"You don't need to worry
457
00:27:02,581 --> 00:27:04,040
about me.
Please leave me alone."
458
00:27:04,124 --> 00:27:06,668
‐ Yeah. So that‐‐that raised
more questions from me,
459
00:27:06,751 --> 00:27:08,837
'cause why would she say that?
460
00:27:08,962 --> 00:27:12,048
That made me think that
it was some sort of affair.
461
00:27:12,174 --> 00:27:14,885
‐ Well, it was an affair.
‐ It was. And I didn't know it.
462
00:27:15,010 --> 00:27:16,636
I mean,
do you see what I'm saying?
463
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,972
'Cause I understand
the way you're looking at it
464
00:27:19,055 --> 00:27:21,766
and the way the world's
looked at it for five years.
465
00:27:21,892 --> 00:27:23,685
You guys didn't understand
my point of view,
466
00:27:23,810 --> 00:27:25,395
and my point of view was,
I had no idea
467
00:27:25,478 --> 00:27:27,397
who I was talking to
in the beginning.
468
00:27:27,522 --> 00:27:28,690
Once Heather told me the truth,
469
00:27:28,773 --> 00:27:31,693
I had no‐‐
I didn't care anymore.
470
00:27:31,776 --> 00:27:33,695
She called me,
and we were fine.
471
00:27:33,778 --> 00:27:36,531
‐ Then why did you write,
"I do not love him.
472
00:27:36,656 --> 00:27:38,408
"He betrayed me.
And I will never,
473
00:27:38,533 --> 00:27:40,702
"ever forgive or forget it.
Trust me.
474
00:27:40,827 --> 00:27:44,497
There's zero love on my end.
I [bleep] hate him"?
475
00:27:44,581 --> 00:27:46,583
‐ In the beginning,
I still‐‐I still
476
00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:50,837
hated him a lot,
and I hate him a lot now,
477
00:27:50,921 --> 00:27:52,547
because he didn't
stand up for himself
478
00:27:52,672 --> 00:27:54,966
and testify in his last trial.
479
00:27:55,050 --> 00:27:57,552
It's just‐‐there's feelings
for people,
480
00:27:57,677 --> 00:27:59,679
and it's hard to overcome that.
481
00:27:59,804 --> 00:28:04,434
‐ So you were
obviously very angry.
482
00:28:04,517 --> 00:28:07,187
‐ Okay.
483
00:28:13,109 --> 00:28:15,862
♪ ♪
484
00:28:28,708 --> 00:28:30,877
"With a psycho whore."
485
00:28:30,961 --> 00:28:33,588
‐ To watch your client
be cross‐examined
486
00:28:33,713 --> 00:28:35,006
in a felony trial,
487
00:28:35,090 --> 00:28:37,425
you just‐‐you're really‐‐
it's powerlessness.
488
00:28:37,509 --> 00:28:40,095
‐ And that's what you called
her after the girl was missing.
489
00:28:40,220 --> 00:28:43,223
‐ Person testifying
is on their own.
490
00:28:43,348 --> 00:28:45,058
They're untethered.
491
00:28:45,183 --> 00:28:48,478
You are completely
out of control.
492
00:28:51,690 --> 00:28:54,317
‐ Right.
493
00:28:54,401 --> 00:28:55,902
‐ You can't do anything.
494
00:29:08,415 --> 00:29:09,791
‐ Tammy Moorer's cross‐
examination has been tough.
495
00:29:09,916 --> 00:29:10,834
Lucky for her,
she's testifying
496
00:29:10,917 --> 00:29:12,168
on a Friday afternoon,
497
00:29:12,252 --> 00:29:14,087
and the judge adjourns
for the weekend.
498
00:29:14,212 --> 00:29:15,922
The following Monday,
Tammy's about to get one
499
00:29:16,006 --> 00:29:18,008
last chance to make her case.
500
00:29:18,091 --> 00:29:20,260
‐ You can continue
this cross‐examination.
501
00:29:20,385 --> 00:29:23,471
‐ Thank you, Judge.
502
00:29:23,555 --> 00:29:25,473
Okay, so at 3:17,
503
00:29:25,557 --> 00:29:30,145
this phone call happens
between y'all and her.
504
00:29:30,228 --> 00:29:33,440
‐ Yes. Not me.
Between her and Sidney. Yes.
505
00:29:33,565 --> 00:29:38,194
‐ And then at 3:35, your truck
is going down 814
506
00:29:38,278 --> 00:29:40,030
just a few minutes later.
Is that correct?
507
00:29:40,113 --> 00:29:41,948
‐ My truck is not,
but you have told people that
508
00:29:42,073 --> 00:29:43,867
and led them to believe
that over the years.
509
00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:46,828
But my truck did not go
to the landing that night.
510
00:29:46,911 --> 00:29:49,080
I promise you that
on this Holy Bible.
511
00:29:49,164 --> 00:29:51,833
‐ Despite Tammy's assertions,
grainy surveillance footage
512
00:29:51,916 --> 00:29:54,461
of a truck that drove
towards Peachtree Landing
513
00:29:54,544 --> 00:29:56,129
on the night of December 18th
514
00:29:56,212 --> 00:29:58,340
was a pillar of the state's
case against her.
515
00:29:58,465 --> 00:30:01,926
‐ During the time that Heather
Elvis was at the landing,
516
00:30:02,052 --> 00:30:04,929
those surveillance cameras
caught a truck
517
00:30:05,055 --> 00:30:08,433
we thought was Sidney's
going down to the landing.
518
00:30:08,558 --> 00:30:09,726
‐ After a few minutes,
519
00:30:09,851 --> 00:30:11,978
this same truck
is seen coming back,
520
00:30:12,062 --> 00:30:14,689
and you do not see
Heather Elvis' car returning.
521
00:30:14,773 --> 00:30:19,277
So it all seemed that Sidney
was directly
522
00:30:19,361 --> 00:30:22,280
connected to the disappearance
of Heather Elvis.
523
00:30:22,364 --> 00:30:25,033
‐ But it's really hard to tell
what you're looking at.
524
00:30:25,158 --> 00:30:28,286
So the prosecutors brought
on this expert witness,
525
00:30:28,370 --> 00:30:31,581
who supposedly works
in this science
526
00:30:31,664 --> 00:30:34,042
of examining
headlight patterns,
527
00:30:34,084 --> 00:30:36,252
because they needed
someone to testify
528
00:30:36,336 --> 00:30:39,047
to that
being the Moorers' truck.
529
00:30:55,522 --> 00:31:00,985
‐ He said that a headlight
spread pattern
530
00:31:01,069 --> 00:31:05,323
was equal to
a fingerprint or a DNA match.
531
00:31:05,407 --> 00:31:09,202
And when I heard this,
I laughed out loud.
532
00:31:09,244 --> 00:31:12,914
If there's a guy
who can definitively
533
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:14,833
identify a vehicle
534
00:31:14,916 --> 00:31:17,752
as being unique
in the universe
535
00:31:17,877 --> 00:31:22,006
based on a headlight
spread pattern on an old
536
00:31:22,048 --> 00:31:24,884
analog video camera,
537
00:31:25,009 --> 00:31:28,805
then why would that
not be used everywhere?
538
00:31:28,888 --> 00:31:32,892
And even if you believe that
that's Sidney Moorer's truck,
539
00:31:33,017 --> 00:31:35,353
two things they couldn't say
with any kind of certainty
540
00:31:35,395 --> 00:31:38,356
is where the truck went
and who was in the truck.
541
00:31:38,481 --> 00:31:40,567
‐ If the jury believes it was
the Moorers' truck
542
00:31:40,692 --> 00:31:43,653
and Tammy was in it,
it could be damning evidence.
543
00:31:43,736 --> 00:31:46,865
But Tammy isn't gonna
concede that without a fight.
544
00:31:46,948 --> 00:31:51,411
‐ Tammy Moorer had a plan
to use cross‐examination
545
00:31:51,494 --> 00:31:52,871
to her advantage.
546
00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:56,916
This is just more time for me
to get in front of the jury
547
00:31:57,041 --> 00:31:59,419
the information
I want in front of the jury.
548
00:32:03,381 --> 00:32:06,259
‐ They were horrible.
You can't tell what that is.
549
00:32:11,055 --> 00:32:12,932
‐ I don't know when
those videos were made,
550
00:32:13,057 --> 00:32:15,685
so I don't agree with you.
No.
551
00:32:15,727 --> 00:32:18,897
‐ She was trying to take
little bits and pieces here
552
00:32:19,022 --> 00:32:23,485
and twist it around
in an effort to make it appear
553
00:32:23,568 --> 00:32:24,986
to be something it's not
554
00:32:25,069 --> 00:32:28,573
to try to cast doubt
on all the testimony.
555
00:32:30,408 --> 00:32:32,118
‐ I saw the videos
you all produced.
556
00:32:32,243 --> 00:32:34,245
Yes. It's not my vehicle.
557
00:32:34,329 --> 00:32:36,331
‐ When the state
closed our case,
558
00:32:36,414 --> 00:32:40,084
we were very uncertain
what the jury was gonna do.
559
00:32:43,463 --> 00:32:45,798
‐ We knew that there was just
as much of a chance
560
00:32:45,882 --> 00:32:48,843
that it could come back
not guilty
561
00:32:48,885 --> 00:32:52,222
as it could guilty.
562
00:33:05,568 --> 00:33:08,738
‐ A lot of the evidence that
the prosecution relied on
563
00:33:08,821 --> 00:33:10,031
was circumstantial
564
00:33:10,073 --> 00:33:11,908
and brought up
a lot of questions about,
565
00:33:12,033 --> 00:33:17,247
is this enough to tie Tammy
to Heather's disappearance?
566
00:33:22,335 --> 00:33:24,003
‐ With their circumstantial
case,
567
00:33:24,128 --> 00:33:26,714
Nancy Livesay has to emphasize
to the jury
568
00:33:26,798 --> 00:33:30,677
that the circumstances
of Heather's disappearance
569
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,845
can only lead
to one conclusion.
570
00:33:32,929 --> 00:33:38,226
‐ This is a story
about jealousy and deceit.
571
00:33:38,351 --> 00:33:40,019
Heather was growing.
572
00:33:40,103 --> 00:33:41,354
She was getting bigger.
573
00:33:41,437 --> 00:33:45,483
She was taking pregnancy tests
at work.
574
00:33:45,567 --> 00:33:49,654
The conspiracy
which they're charged with,
575
00:33:49,737 --> 00:33:53,074
it's because they're doing
all this together.
576
00:33:53,157 --> 00:33:56,327
Wherever you see his phone,
you see her phone.
577
00:33:56,411 --> 00:33:59,706
They are working
in conjunction.
578
00:33:59,831 --> 00:34:02,500
They arrived at Walmart
at 1:12.
579
00:34:02,584 --> 00:34:06,045
They purchased
the pregnancy test at 1:19.
580
00:34:06,129 --> 00:34:07,589
Departed at 1:21.
581
00:34:07,714 --> 00:34:09,674
And lo and behold, look,
582
00:34:09,799 --> 00:34:13,344
pay phone call, 1:33.
583
00:34:13,469 --> 00:34:17,473
Why?
'Cause the test was for her.
584
00:34:17,557 --> 00:34:20,226
Who‐‐what couple
goes into Walmart
585
00:34:20,351 --> 00:34:22,270
and buys a test for each other
586
00:34:22,395 --> 00:34:26,691
and immediately walks out
and calls his girlfriend?
587
00:34:26,816 --> 00:34:30,361
She's at home when she receives
this pay phone call.
588
00:34:30,486 --> 00:34:32,614
Her date has dropped
her back off.
589
00:34:32,739 --> 00:34:35,033
She then calls Bree
and talks to her,
590
00:34:35,116 --> 00:34:36,534
and what does Bree tell her?
591
00:34:36,618 --> 00:34:39,245
"Stay home.
Don't do anything tonight."
592
00:34:39,370 --> 00:34:40,580
That was good advice.
593
00:34:40,705 --> 00:34:44,667
Now, every phone call
from here on out
594
00:34:44,751 --> 00:34:47,045
is trying to get back up
with Sidney Moorer.
595
00:34:47,170 --> 00:34:49,255
Pay phone. Pay phone.
Pay phone.
596
00:34:49,339 --> 00:34:50,965
Pay phone.
Pay phone. Pay phone.
597
00:34:51,049 --> 00:34:52,383
Pay phone. Pay phone.
598
00:34:52,467 --> 00:34:54,177
I mean, she's tearing
the pay phone up.
599
00:34:54,260 --> 00:34:56,554
She's speaking through
these phone records.
600
00:34:56,679 --> 00:35:00,266
She's telling us who she's
trying to get in touch with.
601
00:35:00,391 --> 00:35:03,978
She's telling us
her last conversations.
602
00:35:04,062 --> 00:35:08,066
And they are all to do
with Sidney Moorer.
603
00:35:08,191 --> 00:35:11,903
So don't question
who's going down there.
604
00:35:12,028 --> 00:35:13,404
It's the same people
605
00:35:13,529 --> 00:35:17,825
that had the conversation
with her at 3:17.
606
00:35:17,909 --> 00:35:20,453
She didn't talk
to anybody else.
607
00:35:20,536 --> 00:35:23,039
Nobody else was worried
and upset
608
00:35:23,081 --> 00:35:26,709
about Heather being pregnant
but her.
609
00:35:26,834 --> 00:35:30,171
♪ ♪
610
00:35:30,296 --> 00:35:33,633
‐ We have been in here
for two weeks.
611
00:35:33,716 --> 00:35:40,056
We have heard 38 witnesses,
who proved what?
612
00:35:40,181 --> 00:35:44,894
They didn't prove that
she made him get a tattoo,
613
00:35:45,019 --> 00:35:47,021
because of the jealousy.
614
00:35:47,063 --> 00:35:53,361
They didn't prove that
Heather Elvis was pregnant.
615
00:35:53,403 --> 00:35:58,366
The case is a joke. All right?
They don't have a case.
616
00:35:58,408 --> 00:36:01,369
They don't have
one piece of evidence.
617
00:36:01,452 --> 00:36:05,540
They don't have one fiber,
one teardrop,
618
00:36:05,665 --> 00:36:07,083
one piece of salt,
619
00:36:07,166 --> 00:36:11,671
one piece of a shoelace
at the boat landing.
620
00:36:11,796 --> 00:36:16,175
They cannot prove to you
that anybody named Moorer
621
00:36:16,217 --> 00:36:21,222
ever went to the boat landing
at the end of Peachtree Road.
622
00:36:21,305 --> 00:36:23,307
Think about it just a minute.
623
00:36:23,391 --> 00:36:26,728
If this lady right here,
624
00:36:26,853 --> 00:36:28,604
who's been under the cloud
of these charges
625
00:36:28,730 --> 00:36:33,025
for four years‐‐
under suspicion four years
626
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:34,569
and ten months‐‐
627
00:36:34,694 --> 00:36:38,865
if that lady
was who they say she is,
628
00:36:38,948 --> 00:36:41,659
and Sidney's gonna go use
the pay phone
629
00:36:41,743 --> 00:36:46,581
to make the call
to lure her out, then what?
630
00:36:46,706 --> 00:36:49,208
Don't you think
she'd be standing there
631
00:36:49,292 --> 00:36:52,837
in the video listening?
632
00:36:52,879 --> 00:36:56,174
Her case is really her theory
633
00:36:56,257 --> 00:36:59,177
of how this might
could have happened
634
00:36:59,302 --> 00:37:03,014
if you disregard
a lot of things about it.
635
00:37:03,139 --> 00:37:04,390
And that's not a case.
636
00:37:04,474 --> 00:37:06,392
That's not proof beyond
a reasonable doubt.
637
00:37:06,476 --> 00:37:09,729
Does not overcome
the presumption of innocence.
638
00:37:09,812 --> 00:37:10,563
Thank you.
639
00:37:10,688 --> 00:37:12,482
‐ After everything was done,
640
00:37:12,565 --> 00:37:15,943
we deliberated back
to our jury room,
641
00:37:16,027 --> 00:37:19,405
and this is when we had
to make the decision.
642
00:37:19,530 --> 00:37:20,698
We were all talking.
643
00:37:20,740 --> 00:37:24,285
Each one got to speak
what they thought
644
00:37:24,410 --> 00:37:27,038
and what they thought
about this whole thing,
645
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:30,500
Tammy was guilty
or not guilty.
646
00:37:30,583 --> 00:37:34,045
It is much different than it
is when you watch it on TV,
647
00:37:34,170 --> 00:37:35,838
because you're gonna
convict or not,
648
00:37:35,922 --> 00:37:40,009
and you want to make sure that
you're doing the right thing.
649
00:37:40,092 --> 00:37:41,260
‐ Now Tammy Moorer
and the rest
650
00:37:41,385 --> 00:37:43,304
of the court have to wait.
651
00:37:43,387 --> 00:37:45,973
Will she be set free
by this South Carolina jury?
652
00:37:46,057 --> 00:37:49,101
Or will she spend the next
30 years of her life
653
00:37:49,227 --> 00:37:51,646
regretting her decision
to take the stand?
654
00:37:56,192 --> 00:37:57,693
‐ Tammy Moorer's on trial
for kidnapping her husband's
655
00:37:57,777 --> 00:37:59,862
young girlfriend,
who's never been found.
656
00:37:59,987 --> 00:38:02,406
Her testimony's been a
roller‐coaster ride of wins...
657
00:38:06,410 --> 00:38:07,662
‐ And losses.
658
00:38:15,962 --> 00:38:17,255
‐ So has the jury believed
659
00:38:17,380 --> 00:38:19,048
Tammy's assertions
of innocence,
660
00:38:19,173 --> 00:38:21,467
or has her sometimes
combative demeanor
661
00:38:21,551 --> 00:38:24,887
made them think she really
did commit the crime?
662
00:38:24,971 --> 00:38:26,430
‐ After everything was done,
663
00:38:26,556 --> 00:38:30,017
we deliberated back
to our jury room,
664
00:38:30,059 --> 00:38:33,938
and this is when we had
to make the decision.
665
00:38:34,021 --> 00:38:35,356
We were all taking.
666
00:38:35,439 --> 00:38:38,943
Each one got to speak
what they thought
667
00:38:39,068 --> 00:38:40,528
about this whole thing.
668
00:38:40,570 --> 00:38:44,365
‐ Thank you very much.
Please be seated.
669
00:38:44,448 --> 00:38:45,616
Madame Forelady,
I understand the jury
670
00:38:45,741 --> 00:38:47,243
has reached a verdict.
Is that correct?
671
00:38:47,368 --> 00:38:48,703
‐ Yes, sir.
‐ All right.
672
00:38:48,828 --> 00:38:50,204
If you would,
please hand it to the bailiff.
673
00:38:50,329 --> 00:38:52,540
‐ I feel like the tension
in the room
674
00:38:52,623 --> 00:38:56,544
when the jury came back
was almost impossible
675
00:38:56,669 --> 00:38:58,671
to breathe
for everybody in there.
676
00:38:58,713 --> 00:39:02,091
This was an extremely
complicated case.
677
00:39:02,216 --> 00:39:04,218
It was a tough case.
It was nothing
678
00:39:04,302 --> 00:39:07,096
but circumstantial
evidence in this case.
679
00:39:07,179 --> 00:39:08,347
There was no body.
680
00:39:08,431 --> 00:39:11,309
There was no confession.
There was no eyewitness.
681
00:39:22,778 --> 00:39:24,030
♪ ♪
682
00:39:24,155 --> 00:39:27,533
‐ Looking at all the evidence,
seeing the tapes,
683
00:39:27,617 --> 00:39:29,410
hearing the detectives,
684
00:39:29,493 --> 00:39:34,624
I knew that Tammy
was definitely guilty.
685
00:39:45,801 --> 00:39:49,096
‐ When the clerk read
"guilty," I felt like
686
00:39:49,221 --> 00:39:51,515
for the first time
in a long time
687
00:39:51,641 --> 00:39:55,978
the victim's family was able
to feel some relief
688
00:39:56,062 --> 00:39:57,438
and some closure
689
00:39:57,563 --> 00:40:00,066
from everything that had gone
on up to this point.
690
00:40:14,246 --> 00:40:18,876
‐ I was just so upset
that this lady‐‐how stupid.
691
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,546
She's going to jail.
And she's got these kids.
692
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:25,007
What are they gonna do
for the rest of their lives?
693
00:40:25,091 --> 00:40:28,970
But we knew we made the right
decision at that time.
694
00:40:29,053 --> 00:40:32,598
‐ Whether or not Tammy Moorer
taking the stand
695
00:40:32,682 --> 00:40:35,810
and testified‐‐whether
that made a difference a trial,
696
00:40:35,893 --> 00:40:38,020
that's something‐‐even though
I was there,
697
00:40:38,062 --> 00:40:41,482
I was present,
I was actively defending her,
698
00:40:41,565 --> 00:40:42,650
I don't know
the answer to that.
699
00:40:42,733 --> 00:40:44,527
I can't know the answer.
700
00:40:44,610 --> 00:40:45,945
‐ Tammy took the stand,
701
00:40:46,070 --> 00:40:50,032
because she wanted
to prove her innocence.
702
00:40:50,116 --> 00:40:53,786
But there was not a doubt
in my mind she was guilty.
703
00:40:53,869 --> 00:40:56,789
‐ I think a lot of people
struggled to like Tammy,
704
00:40:56,914 --> 00:41:00,668
to take her at her word
as, you know,
705
00:41:00,751 --> 00:41:04,005
she talked about how she wasn't
jealous of Heather
706
00:41:04,088 --> 00:41:07,508
and she was fine with
her relationship with Sidney
707
00:41:07,633 --> 00:41:09,635
and stepping out
of her marriage.
708
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,262
‐ I had boyfriends.
We had an open marriage.
709
00:41:11,387 --> 00:41:15,224
That's okay. I could care less
if he had sex with 100 people.
710
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:17,768
‐ I don't think that that
played well with
711
00:41:17,852 --> 00:41:21,480
this conservative atmosphere
712
00:41:21,564 --> 00:41:24,400
in Horry County,
South Carolina.
713
00:41:24,525 --> 00:41:28,237
‐ I think that Tammy
was the person;
714
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,198
the state said she did it.
715
00:41:31,282 --> 00:41:35,077
The people needed it,
and everybody believed it.
716
00:41:35,202 --> 00:41:38,789
She got convicted,
and now whatever terrible thing
717
00:41:38,914 --> 00:41:40,666
happened to Heather Elvis,
718
00:41:40,750 --> 00:41:43,669
no one is worried
about it anymore.
719
00:41:43,753 --> 00:41:46,839
‐ She was a very ugly person,
Tammy.
720
00:41:46,881 --> 00:41:50,926
She called Heather Elvis
a "psycho bitch."
721
00:41:51,052 --> 00:41:54,555
I think Tammy was thinking
about herself.
722
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,017
Tammy was the psycho bitch,
not Heather.
723
00:41:58,142 --> 00:42:02,021
Heather was the one that was
running from the psycho bitch.
724
00:42:14,533 --> 00:42:16,243
We reached out
to Tammy Moorer.
725
00:42:16,368 --> 00:42:19,580
She actually provided
a long letter in response.
726
00:42:19,705 --> 00:42:21,248
In part,
she said the following,
727
00:42:21,332 --> 00:42:25,127
"One day when discovery is
put out for the world to see,
728
00:42:25,211 --> 00:42:26,712
"everyone will understand.
729
00:42:26,796 --> 00:42:30,007
"The next trial‐‐
and it will be a fair trial‐‐
730
00:42:30,091 --> 00:42:31,383
"will expose the truth.
731
00:42:31,509 --> 00:42:33,511
It's coming."
732
00:42:36,931 --> 00:42:39,225
Defendants are never forced
to take the stand.
733
00:42:39,350 --> 00:42:43,479
But that decision is likely
the biggest one they ever make.
734
00:42:43,562 --> 00:42:46,649
For "Under Oath,"
I'm Dan Abrams.