1 00:00:02,546 --> 00:00:05,423 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:05,549 --> 00:00:08,051 ‐ It is incredibly rare for criminal defendants 3 00:00:08,134 --> 00:00:09,844 to take the stand. 4 00:00:09,970 --> 00:00:11,721 It's a risk very few take. 5 00:00:11,805 --> 00:00:16,017 At stake: one's freedom or even their life. 6 00:00:16,101 --> 00:00:17,602 This is Henry Segura. 7 00:00:17,727 --> 00:00:19,729 He's charged with killing his ex‐girlfriend 8 00:00:19,854 --> 00:00:21,189 and her three children. 9 00:00:21,314 --> 00:00:23,942 ‐ I honestly didn't think that me lying would, you know, 10 00:00:24,067 --> 00:00:26,361 result in me being arrested for murder. 11 00:00:26,403 --> 00:00:29,990 ‐ This is Henry Segura's second trial for the gruesome murders. 12 00:00:30,073 --> 00:00:32,200 His first trial ended in a hung jury. 13 00:00:32,284 --> 00:00:34,452 Now he's taking the stand again. 14 00:00:34,578 --> 00:00:37,372 Could it help him convince the jury of his innocence? 15 00:00:37,497 --> 00:00:39,332 Or will it come back to haunt him? 16 00:00:39,416 --> 00:00:41,251 ‐ If I'm gonna kill JaVonte, why not bring him home 17 00:00:41,376 --> 00:00:42,586 with me and kill Brandi? 18 00:00:42,711 --> 00:00:45,755 ‐ Take a courtside seat with the prosecutors, 19 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,340 the defense attorney, 20 00:00:47,465 --> 00:00:49,759 the lead homicide investigator, 21 00:00:49,884 --> 00:00:51,177 the legal analyst, 22 00:00:51,303 --> 00:00:54,097 and the podcaster who covered the trial. 23 00:00:54,222 --> 00:00:57,183 I'm Dan Abrams, and this is "Under Oath." 24 00:00:57,267 --> 00:00:59,436 ‐ Raise your right hand. ‐ Do you solemnly swear... 25 00:00:59,561 --> 00:01:01,896 ‐ I'm being honest with everything I say here. 26 00:01:02,022 --> 00:01:03,356 ‐ Do you solemnly swear... 27 00:01:03,481 --> 00:01:04,816 ‐ The whole truth and nothing but the truth. 28 00:01:04,899 --> 00:01:06,151 ‐ I would like to testify. 29 00:01:06,234 --> 00:01:07,777 ‐ The testimony you are about to give... 30 00:01:07,861 --> 00:01:09,112 ‐ The whole truth and nothing but the truth... 31 00:01:09,195 --> 00:01:11,323 ‐ So help you God? 32 00:01:11,406 --> 00:01:16,870 ♪ ♪ 33 00:01:16,953 --> 00:01:18,330 ‐ It was a terrible scene, 34 00:01:18,413 --> 00:01:20,749 the worst I've ever seen in my life. 35 00:01:20,874 --> 00:01:22,083 ‐ I think what separates 36 00:01:22,208 --> 00:01:25,211 this crime from anything else is the children. 37 00:01:25,337 --> 00:01:27,839 ‐ You have to have a special kind of evil in you 38 00:01:27,922 --> 00:01:29,341 to do something like this. 39 00:01:29,466 --> 00:01:32,636 And I just couldn't sense anything like that with Henry. 40 00:01:32,719 --> 00:01:35,347 ‐ I waited until I seen her mother's truck leave. 41 00:01:35,472 --> 00:01:36,848 I walked back down the hill. 42 00:01:36,973 --> 00:01:38,475 Walked to her house. Got to the corner. 43 00:01:38,558 --> 00:01:40,518 Made a left, cut through the neighbor's yard, 44 00:01:40,644 --> 00:01:42,312 and went in the house. 45 00:01:42,395 --> 00:01:45,899 ♪ ♪ 46 00:01:46,024 --> 00:01:48,526 ♪ ♪ 47 00:01:48,652 --> 00:01:51,571 ‐ Henry Segura's being retried for the 2010 murders 48 00:01:51,696 --> 00:01:53,948 of his ex‐girlfriend Brandi Peters, 49 00:01:54,074 --> 00:01:55,283 her six‐year‐old twin daughters, 50 00:01:55,408 --> 00:01:57,202 and their three‐year‐old son. 51 00:01:57,285 --> 00:02:00,038 After hearing the state's evidence against Henry Segura 52 00:02:00,121 --> 00:02:02,582 and the alternate theory presented by the defense 53 00:02:02,707 --> 00:02:05,794 that Brandi was murdered by a cartel hit squad 54 00:02:05,877 --> 00:02:07,379 after working as a drug mule, 55 00:02:07,504 --> 00:02:10,382 the jury found themselves unable to reach a verdict, 56 00:02:10,507 --> 00:02:13,259 with the majority voting for acquittal 57 00:02:13,385 --> 00:02:15,553 and the judge declaring a mistrial. 58 00:02:15,637 --> 00:02:18,932 In November 2019, two years after his first trial 59 00:02:19,057 --> 00:02:21,309 and eight years after he was initially arrested 60 00:02:21,393 --> 00:02:24,187 and put in jail, Henry Segura's back in court, 61 00:02:24,229 --> 00:02:25,563 in front of a new jury, 62 00:02:25,689 --> 00:02:27,941 once again fighting for his life. 63 00:02:28,024 --> 00:02:29,401 With a second chance at freedom, 64 00:02:29,526 --> 00:02:30,985 will Henry Segura be able 65 00:02:31,069 --> 00:02:33,196 to convince these jurors of his innocence 66 00:02:33,279 --> 00:02:36,574 or at least to have reasonable doubt about his guilt? 67 00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:40,161 ‐ I have no reason whatsoever to kill my son or those twins, 68 00:02:40,245 --> 00:02:41,871 neither Brandi. 69 00:02:41,955 --> 00:02:47,335 ♪ ♪ 70 00:02:47,460 --> 00:02:49,254 ‐ Brandi was 27 years old, 71 00:02:49,379 --> 00:02:54,467 and she and Henry met a few years prior to 2010. 72 00:02:54,551 --> 00:02:55,969 They met at a gas station. 73 00:02:56,052 --> 00:02:59,723 And they dated for about eight or nine months before Brandi 74 00:02:59,848 --> 00:03:03,101 became pregnant with their son, JaVonte. 75 00:03:03,184 --> 00:03:04,936 ‐ Yeah, I was at the hospital with her. 76 00:03:05,061 --> 00:03:06,146 I signed the birth certificate. 77 00:03:06,229 --> 00:03:08,648 You know, I was‐‐the whole nine. 78 00:03:08,732 --> 00:03:10,483 ‐ Did Brandi have the twins at that time? 79 00:03:10,567 --> 00:03:12,193 ‐ Yes, sir, they were around two 80 00:03:12,277 --> 00:03:13,820 at the time when I met her. 81 00:03:13,903 --> 00:03:16,531 ‐ And what was your relationship with the twins? 82 00:03:16,614 --> 00:03:18,366 ‐ They were more like my kids than JaVonte, 83 00:03:18,450 --> 00:03:21,745 because I spent more time with them before he was born. 84 00:03:21,870 --> 00:03:25,081 I potty‐trained them, brought them to school. 85 00:03:25,206 --> 00:03:28,042 I was just being a father figure. 86 00:03:28,126 --> 00:03:30,336 ‐ When JaVonte was about six months old, 87 00:03:30,420 --> 00:03:32,839 they became more of an on‐again, 88 00:03:32,922 --> 00:03:35,049 off‐again type of situation. 89 00:03:35,133 --> 00:03:37,677 ‐ At that point, I started back working out of town, 90 00:03:37,802 --> 00:03:40,096 and our relationship kind of faltered. 91 00:03:40,221 --> 00:03:42,515 So I didn't really spend as much time with JaVonte 92 00:03:42,599 --> 00:03:45,351 or the twins like I used to. 93 00:03:45,477 --> 00:03:46,853 ‐ Brandi Peters was a good mother. 94 00:03:46,936 --> 00:03:48,480 She may have done some questionable things 95 00:03:48,563 --> 00:03:49,689 to try to make ends meet, 96 00:03:49,814 --> 00:03:52,358 but she always put her kids first. 97 00:03:52,484 --> 00:03:54,277 ‐ On the morning of November 20th, 98 00:03:54,402 --> 00:03:56,780 Brandi's mom was trying to get ahold of her 99 00:03:56,905 --> 00:04:00,366 and was unsuccessful, and this was very unusual, 100 00:04:00,492 --> 00:04:03,244 because Brandi was always by her phone. 101 00:04:03,369 --> 00:04:04,913 In fact, her mom was so concerned 102 00:04:05,038 --> 00:04:08,833 that she called one of Brandi's neighbors, CiCi Timmons, 103 00:04:08,917 --> 00:04:10,710 and asked her if she could go over to the house 104 00:04:10,835 --> 00:04:13,713 and check on Brandi and the kids. 105 00:04:13,838 --> 00:04:15,089 CiCi sent her son, 106 00:04:15,215 --> 00:04:17,133 Artron Timmons, over to the house, 107 00:04:17,217 --> 00:04:19,427 and when he looked inside, 108 00:04:19,511 --> 00:04:22,847 he saw a lot of blood everywhere, 109 00:04:22,931 --> 00:04:26,184 and so he called 911. 110 00:04:26,267 --> 00:04:28,019 ‐ I got the call on a Saturday morning, 111 00:04:28,061 --> 00:04:31,231 about almost 11:00 in the morning, 112 00:04:31,356 --> 00:04:32,690 and I responded. 113 00:04:32,816 --> 00:04:35,652 ‐ The first two officers that arrived, 114 00:04:35,735 --> 00:04:38,404 they see there is very clearly a crime scene. 115 00:04:38,530 --> 00:04:40,865 And as they enter the front door, 116 00:04:40,949 --> 00:04:43,451 lying there immediately in the foyer area 117 00:04:43,535 --> 00:04:46,746 is Ms. Peters in a large pool of a blood. 118 00:04:46,871 --> 00:04:49,165 ‐ Brandi was shot seven to eight times 119 00:04:49,249 --> 00:04:51,417 with a .32‐caliber gun 120 00:04:51,543 --> 00:04:54,170 and was beaten so severely 121 00:04:54,254 --> 00:04:56,840 that parts of her brain were exposed. 122 00:04:56,923 --> 00:05:00,510 ‐ They immediately notice the house is in disarray, 123 00:05:00,593 --> 00:05:03,304 that there is pretty clear signs of a struggle 124 00:05:03,388 --> 00:05:05,056 that had been going on there. 125 00:05:05,181 --> 00:05:08,184 ‐ The initial altercation took place in Brandi's bedroom. 126 00:05:08,268 --> 00:05:10,311 That's where the first shots were fired. 127 00:05:10,395 --> 00:05:13,356 The altercation proceeded from in her back bedroom, 128 00:05:13,439 --> 00:05:15,191 down the hallway, and out the front door. 129 00:05:15,275 --> 00:05:17,235 She actually made it outside the house. 130 00:05:17,318 --> 00:05:18,987 Her acrylic nails were ripped off. 131 00:05:19,070 --> 00:05:22,156 All her fingers were broken from punching and grabbing. 132 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,367 She took shot after shot after shot, 133 00:05:24,450 --> 00:05:28,079 probably taking six dozen strikes to the head 134 00:05:28,162 --> 00:05:29,831 before she finally succumbed. 135 00:05:29,914 --> 00:05:33,376 She fought like a real hero, as I suppose any mother would, 136 00:05:33,501 --> 00:05:36,045 trying to protect her children in those circumstances. 137 00:05:36,170 --> 00:05:37,463 ♪ ♪ 138 00:05:37,547 --> 00:05:39,173 ‐ As we continued to go through the house, 139 00:05:39,299 --> 00:05:41,676 we entered the communal bathroom, 140 00:05:41,759 --> 00:05:44,929 and that's where we found the remaining victims 141 00:05:45,054 --> 00:05:46,639 inside of the tub. 142 00:05:46,723 --> 00:05:49,475 They were stacked on top of one another, 143 00:05:49,559 --> 00:05:52,228 and the tub was full of water. 144 00:05:52,312 --> 00:05:54,689 ‐ Brandi's daughter Tamiyah was shot 145 00:05:54,731 --> 00:05:56,608 in the head at close range. 146 00:05:56,733 --> 00:05:59,652 Taniyah and JaVonte were both drowned. 147 00:05:59,736 --> 00:06:02,530 And the medical examiner was able to determine 148 00:06:02,614 --> 00:06:06,409 that they died sometime within a couple hours of dinner, 149 00:06:06,492 --> 00:06:08,786 due to the contents in their stomachs. 150 00:06:08,912 --> 00:06:11,372 ‐ It's a special kind of evil person 151 00:06:11,497 --> 00:06:13,583 who would kill three children. 152 00:06:13,666 --> 00:06:16,294 So yes, there was a lot of tension 153 00:06:16,377 --> 00:06:18,838 from the police department internally 154 00:06:18,922 --> 00:06:20,173 to get this case solved, 155 00:06:20,298 --> 00:06:23,343 as well as from the public to find out what happened. 156 00:06:23,426 --> 00:06:24,886 ♪ ♪ 157 00:06:25,011 --> 00:06:26,679 ‐ Of course, what of the first questions you ask is, 158 00:06:26,763 --> 00:06:28,431 "Who's the father of the children?" 159 00:06:28,514 --> 00:06:30,642 They ultimately find out who the two fathers are. 160 00:06:30,725 --> 00:06:32,018 The little girls had one father, 161 00:06:32,101 --> 00:06:34,520 and JaVonte had Mr. Segura. 162 00:06:34,646 --> 00:06:37,106 ‐ Henry was initially brought into the police station 163 00:06:37,190 --> 00:06:40,318 within hours of police finding the bodies, 164 00:06:40,401 --> 00:06:42,278 but he wasn't a suspect. 165 00:06:42,403 --> 00:06:44,030 They simply wanted to tell him 166 00:06:44,155 --> 00:06:49,369 that his three‐year‐old son, JaVonte, had also been killed. 167 00:06:49,410 --> 00:06:50,995 ‐ What kind of stood out a little bit at first, 168 00:06:51,079 --> 00:06:53,581 of course, is, he didn't seem to have a whole lot of emotions 169 00:06:53,665 --> 00:06:55,750 when he was told his son died. 170 00:07:00,046 --> 00:07:01,130 Men not supposed to cry, 171 00:07:01,214 --> 00:07:03,967 so I held my tears in, you know. 172 00:07:04,050 --> 00:07:05,927 I kept moving forward. 173 00:07:06,052 --> 00:07:08,137 ‐ So just because he didn't respond in the way 174 00:07:08,221 --> 00:07:10,682 that you would respond doesn't mean 175 00:07:10,765 --> 00:07:14,519 that he wasn't feeling for the death of his child. 176 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,771 ‐ But nothing that was a telltale event, 177 00:07:16,854 --> 00:07:18,856 because, of course, there was knowledge 178 00:07:18,982 --> 00:07:22,318 that he wasn't real close to JaVonte. 179 00:07:22,402 --> 00:07:24,654 It was a distance relationship. 180 00:07:24,737 --> 00:07:27,532 And it turns out he was married. 181 00:07:27,615 --> 00:07:29,325 ‐ Were you married back in 2010? 182 00:07:29,409 --> 00:07:31,369 ‐ Yes, sir. ‐ And who were you married to? 183 00:07:31,452 --> 00:07:32,870 ‐ Malica Segura. 184 00:07:32,996 --> 00:07:35,415 ‐ And did you and Malica have any children together? 185 00:07:35,540 --> 00:07:37,667 ‐ Yes, sir. ‐ Who were those? 186 00:07:37,750 --> 00:07:41,754 ‐ Malachi and Henry Segura III. 187 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:44,173 ‐ He was not faithful in any way, shape, or form. 188 00:07:44,257 --> 00:07:45,758 He had multiple girlfriends. 189 00:07:45,842 --> 00:07:47,635 He had a child that was fostered 190 00:07:47,719 --> 00:07:49,721 by an extramarital affair. 191 00:07:49,846 --> 00:07:52,640 He just constantly was trying to find another girl 192 00:07:52,724 --> 00:07:54,559 in order to have an affair with. 193 00:07:54,684 --> 00:07:56,102 ‐ And that's your main vice, right? 194 00:07:56,227 --> 00:07:58,229 You make no bones about that? You were a cheater? 195 00:07:58,312 --> 00:07:59,689 ‐ It's like that's my drug of choice. 196 00:07:59,814 --> 00:08:01,357 I don't drink. I don't smoke, do any drugs. 197 00:08:01,482 --> 00:08:02,984 That was my drug of choice. 198 00:08:03,067 --> 00:08:06,029 Like, I'm not proud of it, but, you know, that's what I did. 199 00:08:06,154 --> 00:08:09,198 ‐ Henry is a dog, like a lot of guys are dogs, 200 00:08:09,323 --> 00:08:12,952 that cheat on their spouses or girlfriends or whatever. 201 00:08:13,077 --> 00:08:18,374 But that is not in any way the same kind of evil 202 00:08:18,499 --> 00:08:21,169 that is required to be a baby murderer. 203 00:08:21,252 --> 00:08:23,129 That's the devil. 204 00:08:27,258 --> 00:08:29,594 [laughs] ‐ Okay. 205 00:08:33,890 --> 00:08:36,100 ‐ In the first interview, he was just trying 206 00:08:36,225 --> 00:08:39,937 to kind of paint a picture of, "Oh, Brandi's sweet. 207 00:08:40,021 --> 00:08:43,524 "She's‐‐you know, we've had a relationship in the past, 208 00:08:43,649 --> 00:08:45,234 but I haven't seen her in months." 209 00:08:45,359 --> 00:08:50,281 So trying to really distance himself from Brandi 210 00:08:50,406 --> 00:08:52,200 and from JaVonte. 211 00:08:55,244 --> 00:08:57,538 ‐ And we knew he wasn't being completely truthful. 212 00:08:57,622 --> 00:09:00,583 ‐ He was embarrassed at what a slime bag he had been. 213 00:09:00,708 --> 00:09:02,460 He had been a crappy husband. 214 00:09:02,585 --> 00:09:05,671 So I know that Mark Lewis sensed that. 215 00:09:05,755 --> 00:09:08,007 I know Mark could tell that he was lying. 216 00:09:08,132 --> 00:09:10,802 ‐ I just didn't feel like them knowing anything 217 00:09:10,885 --> 00:09:12,678 about who I'm having sex with 218 00:09:12,804 --> 00:09:15,181 had anything to do with somebody getting killed. 219 00:09:15,264 --> 00:09:17,683 ‐ But is it possible that a man ended up on trial 220 00:09:17,809 --> 00:09:20,394 facing four counts of premeditated murder 221 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:21,646 and the death penalty 222 00:09:21,729 --> 00:09:24,190 because he lied about an affair? 223 00:09:24,273 --> 00:09:25,441 During their investigation, 224 00:09:25,525 --> 00:09:27,443 law enforcement asked Henry Segura 225 00:09:27,568 --> 00:09:29,195 for an alibi the day of the murders, 226 00:09:29,278 --> 00:09:30,571 and he provided one. 227 00:09:30,696 --> 00:09:32,406 He said he was home all day working on his car 228 00:09:32,532 --> 00:09:36,410 and even suggested police check his cell phone to prove it. 229 00:09:36,536 --> 00:09:38,371 While trying to verify Segura's story, 230 00:09:38,496 --> 00:09:42,291 lead investigator Mark Lewis got a break in the case. 231 00:09:42,375 --> 00:09:46,504 ‐ So while going through Mr. Segura's alibi, 232 00:09:46,546 --> 00:09:49,757 we just kept on revealing lie after lie. 233 00:09:49,841 --> 00:09:52,677 Ten days later, we called Mr. Segura back in 234 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,970 to conduct an interview, 235 00:09:54,053 --> 00:09:56,222 because we uncovered a second phone number 236 00:09:56,347 --> 00:10:01,227 that we believe that he was at one time in possession of. 237 00:10:05,898 --> 00:10:07,275 ‐ I'm giving you my cooperation. 238 00:10:18,077 --> 00:10:20,413 ‐ Henry Segura's on trial for the vicious slaying 239 00:10:20,538 --> 00:10:22,999 of an entire family: Brandi Peters, 240 00:10:23,082 --> 00:10:25,209 her six‐year‐old twin daughters, 241 00:10:25,293 --> 00:10:26,627 and three year‐old son. 242 00:10:26,711 --> 00:10:28,838 Segura is adamant that he was not involved 243 00:10:28,963 --> 00:10:31,924 with killing his extramarital girlfriend or their son. 244 00:10:32,049 --> 00:10:35,219 But just when it appeared his alibi would check out, 245 00:10:35,344 --> 00:10:37,889 law enforcement discovers a secret cell phone 246 00:10:38,014 --> 00:10:39,807 that could tell a different story. 247 00:10:39,891 --> 00:10:43,394 ‐ When investigators looked into the cell phone data 248 00:10:43,477 --> 00:10:44,854 of this second phone, 249 00:10:44,896 --> 00:10:48,065 it revealed some very interesting information. 250 00:10:48,191 --> 00:10:51,861 First of all, that second phone had contacted Brandi 251 00:10:51,944 --> 00:10:54,238 multiple times on the day of her death. 252 00:10:54,363 --> 00:11:00,494 And it did so by dialing star 67 prior to calling her. 253 00:11:00,578 --> 00:11:02,455 Now, people dial star 67 254 00:11:02,580 --> 00:11:03,831 before they're making phone calls 255 00:11:03,915 --> 00:11:06,125 in order to keep their calls private. 256 00:11:06,250 --> 00:11:09,378 They don't want the person they're calling to know 257 00:11:09,503 --> 00:11:11,172 who it is that's calling. 258 00:11:11,255 --> 00:11:14,717 ‐ Why didn't you give Brandi your 408 number? 259 00:11:14,842 --> 00:11:16,469 ‐ She called‐‐she'd like to call too much. 260 00:11:16,552 --> 00:11:18,471 She would‐‐if I didn't answer the phone, 261 00:11:18,554 --> 00:11:20,056 she gonna call until I pick it up. 262 00:11:20,181 --> 00:11:22,600 ‐ Every time you ever communicated with Brandi 263 00:11:22,725 --> 00:11:24,977 on that phone, did you use the star 67 264 00:11:25,061 --> 00:11:28,064 so that she wouldn't have your number, based on the call? 265 00:11:28,147 --> 00:11:29,106 ‐ Yes, sir. 266 00:11:29,232 --> 00:11:30,733 ‐ He had this secret cell phone. 267 00:11:30,858 --> 00:11:32,860 He did talk to a lot of women on it. 268 00:11:32,985 --> 00:11:36,530 But it also allowed him to be able to have a way 269 00:11:36,614 --> 00:11:38,157 to communicate with Brandi 270 00:11:38,241 --> 00:11:41,410 the day of the murder and, in his mind, 271 00:11:41,535 --> 00:11:43,037 think that his alibi is all set up 272 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,873 because his primary phone is at home. 273 00:11:45,957 --> 00:11:48,042 ‐ During the investigation, we went through 274 00:11:48,167 --> 00:11:50,878 cell phone records, text messaging records, 275 00:11:51,003 --> 00:11:56,467 and we noticed that Henry Segura deleted 276 00:11:56,550 --> 00:12:00,054 Brandi Peters completely from his phone. 277 00:12:00,179 --> 00:12:05,017 He also deleted text messages from his wife 278 00:12:05,101 --> 00:12:08,020 on the day of the murders. 279 00:12:08,104 --> 00:12:09,689 ‐ Where she was saying, "Where are you, 280 00:12:09,772 --> 00:12:11,524 where are you?" because he wasn't home. 281 00:12:11,607 --> 00:12:15,528 ‐ And deleting it is showing that he has something to hide. 282 00:12:15,611 --> 00:12:17,238 And what the prosecution was saying 283 00:12:17,363 --> 00:12:21,367 is that he has to hide his involvement in this homicide. 284 00:12:21,492 --> 00:12:22,702 ‐ Law enforcement officers 285 00:12:22,827 --> 00:12:25,329 were also looking to Mr. Segura as to, 286 00:12:25,413 --> 00:12:29,000 "Okay, he lied to us. What would be his motive?" 287 00:12:29,083 --> 00:12:30,793 So they go and they start looking 288 00:12:30,876 --> 00:12:32,295 at his financial records. 289 00:12:32,378 --> 00:12:34,088 Turns out, he doesn't have a whole lot of money. 290 00:12:34,213 --> 00:12:36,132 And right around the time of those murders, 291 00:12:36,215 --> 00:12:40,386 he's being ordered to pay more child support to Ms. Peters. 292 00:12:50,187 --> 00:12:53,691 ‐ Henry and Brandi had a very volatile relationship. 293 00:12:53,774 --> 00:12:56,068 They were always on again, off again. 294 00:12:56,152 --> 00:12:59,322 And according to Henry, Brandi would often taunt him 295 00:12:59,405 --> 00:13:02,742 and tell him that JaVonte was not his son. 296 00:13:02,867 --> 00:13:04,076 But then she would turn around 297 00:13:04,201 --> 00:13:06,996 and demand child support money from him. 298 00:13:07,079 --> 00:13:09,749 ‐ I really wasn't in a good financial statement. 299 00:13:09,874 --> 00:13:11,709 I was out of work for about a month or so, 300 00:13:11,792 --> 00:13:14,211 so I was kind of behind on bills and stuff. 301 00:13:14,337 --> 00:13:19,592 ‐ He owed Brandi about $20,000 in child support payments. 302 00:13:19,717 --> 00:13:21,218 And prosecutors believed 303 00:13:21,302 --> 00:13:24,513 that this was the motive for the murders. 304 00:13:24,638 --> 00:13:26,932 ‐ Like I said, I never even‐‐ I haven't even had a chance 305 00:13:27,058 --> 00:13:28,100 to make the first payment 306 00:13:28,225 --> 00:13:30,102 before her and JaVonte were killed. 307 00:13:30,227 --> 00:13:33,856 ‐ Now Henry had the motive, the means, the opportunity, 308 00:13:33,898 --> 00:13:37,026 and he was their number one suspect. 309 00:13:37,151 --> 00:13:38,694 ‐ The reason the entire investigation 310 00:13:38,778 --> 00:13:40,946 ended up focusing on Henry 311 00:13:41,030 --> 00:13:44,700 is because he lied about infidelity. 312 00:13:44,784 --> 00:13:46,952 And I want to be clear about that. 313 00:13:47,078 --> 00:13:48,579 He didn't just lie about Brandi. 314 00:13:48,704 --> 00:13:49,789 They asked him about other women, 315 00:13:49,914 --> 00:13:51,832 and he lied about that too. 316 00:13:51,916 --> 00:13:53,167 ‐ If I would have just told him, 317 00:13:53,250 --> 00:13:54,710 "Look, yes, I was cheating on my wife. 318 00:13:54,794 --> 00:13:56,379 I was talking to Brandi, I talked to Natasha, 319 00:13:56,462 --> 00:13:58,506 I talked to Kim, I talked to all these different females," 320 00:13:58,631 --> 00:14:01,592 then I think he would have seen I was telling the truth, 321 00:14:01,717 --> 00:14:05,012 and, you know, like I said, I wouldn't be here today. 322 00:14:05,137 --> 00:14:06,972 ‐ The whole deck is stacked against criminal defendants. 323 00:14:07,056 --> 00:14:08,516 It just happens to be, 324 00:14:08,599 --> 00:14:10,184 because of the institutional racism in this country, 325 00:14:10,226 --> 00:14:12,311 that more of those defendants are Black males, 326 00:14:12,395 --> 00:14:16,440 and I don't think that there's any realistic chance 327 00:14:16,565 --> 00:14:20,403 that if the prime suspect had been a white doctor, 328 00:14:20,528 --> 00:14:22,154 on this weak evidence, 329 00:14:22,238 --> 00:14:23,864 that they would have charged him. 330 00:14:23,948 --> 00:14:27,618 I think that they thought that Henry would be an easy target. 331 00:14:27,743 --> 00:14:29,203 ‐ At the first trial, 332 00:14:29,286 --> 00:14:31,247 there were conflicting accounts of the jury's vote. 333 00:14:31,372 --> 00:14:35,459 Some say the split was 8‐4, while others claim it was 11‐1. 334 00:14:35,584 --> 00:14:36,877 But either way, 335 00:14:36,961 --> 00:14:39,380 the majority of the jurors voted for an acquittal 336 00:14:39,505 --> 00:14:42,341 before announcing themselves deadlocked. 337 00:14:42,425 --> 00:14:45,177 ‐ We felt very confident going into the second trial. 338 00:14:45,261 --> 00:14:48,013 That certainly impacted my decision to go down 339 00:14:48,139 --> 00:14:50,182 from 12 jurors to 6 jurors. 340 00:14:50,307 --> 00:14:51,809 And again, the reason I did that‐‐ 341 00:14:51,892 --> 00:14:53,352 we're not trying to hang the jury, 342 00:14:53,436 --> 00:14:55,062 and we're not trying to save him from a death verdict. 343 00:14:55,187 --> 00:14:56,939 We're trying to win the case. 344 00:14:57,022 --> 00:14:59,191 And it's easier to convince 6 people of anything 345 00:14:59,275 --> 00:15:02,153 than it is to convince 12 people of anything. 346 00:15:02,236 --> 00:15:04,864 ‐ In the state of Florida, crimes not punishable by death 347 00:15:04,989 --> 00:15:07,741 are tried in front of a six‐person jury. 348 00:15:07,867 --> 00:15:09,869 However, in first‐degree murder cases, 349 00:15:09,952 --> 00:15:13,038 defendants are entitled to a 12‐person jury. 350 00:15:13,164 --> 00:15:15,207 Henry Segura and his defense team chose to waive 351 00:15:15,332 --> 00:15:18,794 that right and move forward with only six jurors, 352 00:15:18,878 --> 00:15:21,338 in hopes of winning the case outright. 353 00:15:21,422 --> 00:15:24,341 [dramatic music] 354 00:15:24,467 --> 00:15:25,801 ♪ ♪ 355 00:15:25,885 --> 00:15:27,761 ‐ You won't hear any dispute from the defense 356 00:15:27,845 --> 00:15:29,346 that this is the most heinous offense 357 00:15:29,472 --> 00:15:31,390 that's, you know, been committed in Tallahassee. 358 00:15:31,515 --> 00:15:34,310 There's isn't any argument against that. 359 00:15:34,393 --> 00:15:36,854 The problem is that it wasn't Mr. Segura. 360 00:15:36,937 --> 00:15:39,106 To have a realistic chance of winning 361 00:15:39,231 --> 00:15:40,524 most any criminal case, 362 00:15:40,566 --> 00:15:41,859 you got to give them what they want 363 00:15:41,984 --> 00:15:43,444 if you want a chance to win. 364 00:15:43,569 --> 00:15:45,362 What they want is to hear from the defendant. 365 00:15:45,404 --> 00:15:47,198 And so I felt that the jury needed to hear from Henry, 366 00:15:47,323 --> 00:15:49,283 because there were certain parts of the evidence 367 00:15:49,408 --> 00:15:51,243 that only Henry could address. 368 00:15:51,368 --> 00:15:52,912 We saw, with the state's evidence, 369 00:15:53,037 --> 00:15:55,915 that there were a bunch of deleted texts. 370 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,125 Why were those texts deleted? 371 00:15:58,250 --> 00:16:00,085 ‐ Mainly because I didn't want Malica going through my phone 372 00:16:00,211 --> 00:16:02,087 and rereading everything and getting all mad 373 00:16:02,213 --> 00:16:04,673 about this and that again, so I just erased all of them. 374 00:16:04,798 --> 00:16:06,133 Anything that had to do with Brandi, 375 00:16:06,217 --> 00:16:08,511 I tried to keep it out of my phones. 376 00:16:08,594 --> 00:16:12,139 ‐ That text message that Brandi sent you on Thursday, 377 00:16:12,223 --> 00:16:13,682 talking about she would have given you some, 378 00:16:13,724 --> 00:16:16,018 you looked good, did you delete that one as well? 379 00:16:16,143 --> 00:16:17,520 ‐ Oh, yeah. Yes. 380 00:16:17,603 --> 00:16:19,855 ‐ What did you think when you got that text message? 381 00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:21,398 What were you thinking about? 382 00:16:21,524 --> 00:16:23,317 ‐ I was thinking that, you know, 383 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,319 it's back to like it used to be. 384 00:16:25,402 --> 00:16:27,863 Fight and make up. It was a makeup text. 385 00:16:27,947 --> 00:16:29,156 We had arguments. 386 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,575 We fuss, we fight, we have sex, we make up. 387 00:16:31,659 --> 00:16:34,328 It was actually a pretty good relationship. 388 00:16:34,411 --> 00:16:36,914 ‐ The truth is that it was a volatile relationship. 389 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:38,165 We accepted those facts, 390 00:16:38,249 --> 00:16:39,458 and Henry talked about them as well. 391 00:16:39,542 --> 00:16:41,293 What they never bothered to found out: 392 00:16:41,418 --> 00:16:43,462 Brandi's drug‐running partner was communicating with her 393 00:16:43,546 --> 00:16:46,173 and sending her coded death threats via letter 394 00:16:46,298 --> 00:16:49,635 even as soon as the day before she was murdered. 395 00:16:49,718 --> 00:16:54,807 At some point, did you end up directing associates of yours 396 00:16:54,890 --> 00:16:56,058 to kill Brandi Peters? 397 00:16:56,141 --> 00:16:57,518 ‐ Yes, sir. I did. 398 00:17:02,398 --> 00:17:04,775 ‐ Now, the week of the murder, you indicated you received 399 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:06,235 those text messages from Brandi. 400 00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:07,653 What did you do when you received those? 401 00:17:07,736 --> 00:17:09,446 ‐ I tried to make plans to come over that day, 402 00:17:09,572 --> 00:17:11,323 but she had something going on, 403 00:17:11,407 --> 00:17:13,033 so we made plans for me to come over the next day. 404 00:17:13,117 --> 00:17:14,285 ‐ Friday. ‐ Yes. 405 00:17:14,410 --> 00:17:15,744 The 19th. ‐ Okay. 406 00:17:15,869 --> 00:17:19,331 How long did it take for you and Brandi to hook up? 407 00:17:19,415 --> 00:17:22,376 ‐ Not long. About 15, 20 minutes. 408 00:17:22,459 --> 00:17:24,587 ‐ Henry Segura's on trial for the vicious killings 409 00:17:24,712 --> 00:17:28,007 of his on‐again, off‐again girlfriend Brandi Peters, 410 00:17:28,090 --> 00:17:29,800 her six‐year‐old twin daughters, 411 00:17:29,883 --> 00:17:32,219 and their three‐year‐old son. 412 00:17:32,303 --> 00:17:34,221 The defense, however, claims Henry Segura 413 00:17:34,305 --> 00:17:35,848 had nothing to do with the murders 414 00:17:35,931 --> 00:17:38,684 and that Brandi Peters had a dark past 415 00:17:38,767 --> 00:17:40,185 involving drug cartels 416 00:17:40,269 --> 00:17:43,480 who are responsible for these violent murders. 417 00:17:43,564 --> 00:17:48,110 ‐ So in thinking about what psychological roadblocks 418 00:17:48,235 --> 00:17:49,778 are gonna be in front of a jury 419 00:17:49,903 --> 00:17:53,073 which would prevent them from returning a not guilty verdict, 420 00:17:53,157 --> 00:17:56,118 of course, the victims matter. 421 00:17:56,243 --> 00:17:58,120 Where did you and Brandi have sex at? 422 00:17:58,203 --> 00:17:59,538 ‐ On the bed, in the bedroom. 423 00:17:59,663 --> 00:18:01,540 ‐ Were the kids home while this was going on? 424 00:18:01,665 --> 00:18:04,585 ‐ No, they were across the street, playing, you know, 425 00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:05,919 between the two houses. 426 00:18:06,045 --> 00:18:07,504 ‐ The phrase that we use in talking about 427 00:18:07,630 --> 00:18:08,964 what the jury is gonna have to do, 428 00:18:09,048 --> 00:18:10,674 what we have to get them to do‐‐ 429 00:18:10,716 --> 00:18:12,635 we say we have to get them to step over four bodies 430 00:18:12,718 --> 00:18:15,387 to get to not guilty, and that's hard. 431 00:18:15,471 --> 00:18:18,349 After that wrapped up, what happened next? 432 00:18:18,432 --> 00:18:20,351 ‐ I tried to spend a little time with JaVonte. 433 00:18:20,434 --> 00:18:24,021 And then eventually, I told Brandi I had to go. 434 00:18:24,063 --> 00:18:25,522 [dramatic music] 435 00:18:25,606 --> 00:18:27,733 She told me, "I got company coming anyway. 436 00:18:27,858 --> 00:18:29,234 Need to leave anyway." 437 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:31,862 ‐ The defense told the jury that Henry Segura 438 00:18:31,987 --> 00:18:33,322 left the crime scene 439 00:18:33,405 --> 00:18:36,575 long before Brandi and her children were killed. 440 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:41,538 And in fact, they say that a man named James Carlos Santos 441 00:18:41,622 --> 00:18:43,457 ordered a hit. 442 00:18:43,540 --> 00:18:46,043 ‐ James Carlos Santos is a drug trafficker 443 00:18:46,126 --> 00:18:47,544 who brought Brandi in 444 00:18:47,628 --> 00:18:50,381 at some point in the 2000s to work as a mule. 445 00:18:50,506 --> 00:18:53,092 Henry wasn't bruised. Henry wasn't cut. 446 00:18:53,217 --> 00:18:54,385 Henry wasn't scratched. 447 00:18:54,510 --> 00:18:57,429 In most any other trial, Henry's lack of injuries 448 00:18:57,513 --> 00:18:59,139 would have been the featured piece of evidence. 449 00:18:59,223 --> 00:19:00,683 The only reason it wasn't, like, 450 00:19:00,766 --> 00:19:03,060 the highlighted thing that I was holding on to here 451 00:19:03,143 --> 00:19:04,687 is because we had so much other good stuff 452 00:19:04,770 --> 00:19:06,689 which definitively proved innocence. 453 00:19:06,814 --> 00:19:07,940 Did you already have 454 00:19:08,065 --> 00:19:10,192 an existing drug trafficking organization? 455 00:19:10,317 --> 00:19:11,860 ‐ Yes, sir, I did. 456 00:19:11,944 --> 00:19:13,195 ‐ Was she one of multiple people 457 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,698 who transported illegal narcotics for you? 458 00:19:15,781 --> 00:19:16,949 ‐ Yes, sir, she was. 459 00:19:17,032 --> 00:19:19,535 ‐ At some point, did you end up 460 00:19:19,618 --> 00:19:22,913 directing associates of yours to kill Brandi Peters? 461 00:19:23,038 --> 00:19:24,581 ‐ Yes, sir, I did. 462 00:19:24,707 --> 00:19:26,125 ‐ And why was that? 463 00:19:26,250 --> 00:19:28,711 ‐ She had stolen money and drugs. 464 00:19:28,836 --> 00:19:32,339 ‐ The defense put a lot of evidence forth at trial 465 00:19:32,464 --> 00:19:36,635 that the person who actually killed Brandi was the cartel. 466 00:19:36,719 --> 00:19:38,637 So they're putting an alternative theory, 467 00:19:38,721 --> 00:19:42,266 an alternative suspect of who actually killed Brandi 468 00:19:42,391 --> 00:19:46,770 and taking the light away from Henry Segura. 469 00:19:46,895 --> 00:19:50,357 ‐ Once he admitted what exactly his role was 470 00:19:50,441 --> 00:19:51,859 and how he set it up, 471 00:19:51,942 --> 00:19:54,611 all of the rest of the evidence made so much more sense. 472 00:19:54,737 --> 00:19:56,488 There was a letter that she received from Santos 473 00:19:56,572 --> 00:19:59,575 the day before she was killed which was, as he explained, 474 00:19:59,700 --> 00:20:03,537 a clear threat that she was in imminent danger of retribution 475 00:20:03,620 --> 00:20:06,206 for not paying back the $90,000 476 00:20:06,290 --> 00:20:07,958 worth of cocaine that she had stolen. 477 00:20:08,041 --> 00:20:11,503 The day before the murder, Brandi gets this letter. 478 00:20:11,628 --> 00:20:14,214 What it says on the back of this envelope is, 479 00:20:14,298 --> 00:20:15,799 "Dear Mr. Mailman, if this letter 480 00:20:15,883 --> 00:20:17,926 "happens to get lost, just send it to heaven, 481 00:20:18,051 --> 00:20:19,678 because it's going to an angel." 482 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,347 On the other side, it says, "I thank God for you, 483 00:20:22,473 --> 00:20:24,141 "and I ask that He look out for you 484 00:20:24,224 --> 00:20:26,518 and our three little angels." 485 00:20:26,602 --> 00:20:28,771 Chilling, right? 486 00:20:28,896 --> 00:20:30,063 ‐ Santos claimed, 487 00:20:30,189 --> 00:20:32,691 since he brought Brandi into the operation, 488 00:20:32,733 --> 00:20:36,278 he then had to be the one to take her out. 489 00:20:36,403 --> 00:20:38,530 ‐ James Carlos Santos sent Brandi 490 00:20:38,614 --> 00:20:40,532 a threatening letter from prison, 491 00:20:40,616 --> 00:20:44,203 where he's been serving time for armed robbery since 2004. 492 00:20:44,328 --> 00:20:46,538 Santos previously invoked his Fifth Amendment right 493 00:20:46,622 --> 00:20:48,207 against self‐incrimination 494 00:20:48,332 --> 00:20:50,542 and refused to testify in the first trial. 495 00:20:50,626 --> 00:20:52,377 ‐ I had to let it be known 496 00:20:52,461 --> 00:20:54,546 that I'm the reason why she's no longer here. 497 00:20:54,671 --> 00:20:57,674 ‐ But could his testimony now be the key difference 498 00:20:57,758 --> 00:21:00,135 the defense needs to get the jury 499 00:21:00,219 --> 00:21:04,306 to find Henry Segura not guilty? 500 00:21:04,389 --> 00:21:07,017 ‐ How did you plan to have the hit carried out 501 00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:10,437 once you had directed that it be done? 502 00:21:10,521 --> 00:21:11,897 ‐ Well, first of all, I had to get some people 503 00:21:12,022 --> 00:21:14,191 here in Tallahassee; I didn't have many guys here, 504 00:21:14,316 --> 00:21:18,320 so I had to bring guys from Texas and Atlanta. 505 00:21:18,403 --> 00:21:20,697 ‐ Santos claimed that there were multiple people 506 00:21:20,739 --> 00:21:22,699 involved in the commission of the offense. 507 00:21:22,783 --> 00:21:25,452 He claimed that an entire hit team went in. 508 00:21:25,536 --> 00:21:27,162 There are no signs of forced entry, 509 00:21:27,246 --> 00:21:30,457 which likely means that Brandi did in fact open the door. 510 00:21:30,541 --> 00:21:31,875 Our cartel expert explained 511 00:21:31,959 --> 00:21:35,170 how it's a typical tactic for a cartel hit squad 512 00:21:35,254 --> 00:21:37,673 to send a female to the door first. 513 00:21:37,756 --> 00:21:40,551 ‐ Not to commit the murder itself, 514 00:21:40,634 --> 00:21:44,471 only to help them gain entry. 515 00:21:44,555 --> 00:21:46,723 ‐ And then once you get into the commission of the murder, 516 00:21:46,849 --> 00:21:49,434 you have multiple shoe impressions in the foyer 517 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,187 that we know don't belong to law enforcement. 518 00:21:52,271 --> 00:21:53,981 By the way, they got all Henry's shoes too. 519 00:21:54,064 --> 00:21:57,359 His shoes didn't match any of those shoe impressions either. 520 00:21:57,442 --> 00:21:59,778 At some point, TPD seized your green truck 521 00:21:59,862 --> 00:22:01,697 and executed a search warrant on it, right? 522 00:22:01,780 --> 00:22:02,531 ‐ Yes, sir. 523 00:22:02,656 --> 00:22:03,991 ‐ And they processed all that. 524 00:22:04,074 --> 00:22:05,492 ‐ Yes, sir. 525 00:22:05,576 --> 00:22:06,869 ‐ And found no evidence of anything related to the crimes. 526 00:22:06,952 --> 00:22:08,245 ‐ No, sir. 527 00:22:08,328 --> 00:22:09,788 ‐ Ultimately, what the DNA evidence showed 528 00:22:09,913 --> 00:22:12,916 was that there was foreign DNA all over the house. 529 00:22:13,041 --> 00:22:15,252 There was male DNA under Brandi's fingernails 530 00:22:15,377 --> 00:22:16,712 from scratching. 531 00:22:16,837 --> 00:22:19,214 There was foreign DNA on the phone in her bedroom 532 00:22:19,339 --> 00:22:20,674 that had been ripped out of the wall 533 00:22:20,716 --> 00:22:22,134 and then had the cord cut 534 00:22:22,217 --> 00:22:26,638 that a CODIS match to a cartel member had occurred. 535 00:22:26,722 --> 00:22:28,515 ‐ DNA samples from the crime scene 536 00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:31,101 were run through a comprehensive database of DNA 537 00:22:31,226 --> 00:22:32,686 from convicted felons. 538 00:22:32,769 --> 00:22:36,231 A DNA swab from the phone cradle in Brandi's bedroom 539 00:22:36,315 --> 00:22:40,152 revealed a partial match to Angel Avila‐Quinones, 540 00:22:40,235 --> 00:22:42,070 a known Colombian drug smuggler 541 00:22:42,154 --> 00:22:45,365 and alleged associate of James Carlos Santos. 542 00:22:45,449 --> 00:22:47,659 ‐ None of that DNA belonged to Henry or Brandi 543 00:22:47,743 --> 00:22:49,703 or any of the other victims. 544 00:22:49,786 --> 00:22:51,997 It was foreign DNA because it belonged to a foreign actor 545 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,416 who was involved in the commission of the murder. 546 00:22:54,499 --> 00:22:56,627 ‐ That corroborates the story 547 00:22:56,752 --> 00:22:58,545 that the defense was putting forth. 548 00:22:58,670 --> 00:23:01,673 Brandi was in the game. Brandi owed some money. 549 00:23:01,757 --> 00:23:04,843 Brandi was scared of some people. 550 00:23:04,885 --> 00:23:08,555 ‐ Mr. Santos made all the statements that he made, 551 00:23:08,639 --> 00:23:10,849 and we decided we were gonna let that in 552 00:23:10,974 --> 00:23:13,936 and we were gonna expose who Mr. Santos really was. 553 00:23:14,061 --> 00:23:17,397 ‐ It was hard to be able to believe Carlos Santos, 554 00:23:17,522 --> 00:23:19,524 'cause why would someone get on the stand 555 00:23:19,650 --> 00:23:21,985 and admit to committing a homicide 556 00:23:22,069 --> 00:23:24,446 but get the prosecutors not charging him? 557 00:23:24,529 --> 00:23:26,782 So that takes away credibility from the defense 558 00:23:26,907 --> 00:23:30,577 that this person had anything to do with the homicide. 559 00:23:30,702 --> 00:23:34,957 ‐ So we were going to essentially debunk 560 00:23:35,082 --> 00:23:36,333 the defense's theory 561 00:23:36,416 --> 00:23:39,378 and let the jury see the absurdity of it. 562 00:23:44,466 --> 00:23:45,801 ‐ I honestly didn't think that me lying to him 563 00:23:45,884 --> 00:23:48,470 about having sex with a bunch of different women would, 564 00:23:48,553 --> 00:23:50,639 you know, result in me being arrested for murder. 565 00:23:50,722 --> 00:23:53,016 ‐ Henry Segura's on trial for the vicious slaying 566 00:23:53,058 --> 00:23:54,726 of his ex‐girlfriend Brandi Peters 567 00:23:54,810 --> 00:23:56,603 and her three young children. 568 00:23:56,728 --> 00:23:59,314 Henry Segura has decided to take the stand in an effort 569 00:23:59,398 --> 00:24:02,192 to convince the jury that he's innocent. 570 00:24:02,317 --> 00:24:06,029 But now Henry Segura and the defense's cartel theory 571 00:24:06,113 --> 00:24:09,366 have to stand up to the prosecutor's cross‐examination. 572 00:24:09,449 --> 00:24:12,869 [dramatic music] 573 00:24:12,953 --> 00:24:15,455 ‐ During the course of Mr. Santos' 574 00:24:15,580 --> 00:24:16,915 direct examination, of course, 575 00:24:16,999 --> 00:24:20,168 he had mentioned that he had met Brandi Peters. 576 00:24:20,293 --> 00:24:21,962 You met her in 2000, 2001? 577 00:24:22,045 --> 00:24:23,088 ‐ Yes, sir. 578 00:24:23,171 --> 00:24:25,132 ‐ How old was she? 579 00:24:25,215 --> 00:24:26,717 ‐ I don't recall, sir. 580 00:24:26,842 --> 00:24:29,511 ‐ What was her hair like? 581 00:24:29,636 --> 00:24:31,013 ‐ I don't remember. 582 00:24:31,096 --> 00:24:32,681 ‐ We knew that he had never met her, 583 00:24:32,764 --> 00:24:34,474 because he was in prison. 584 00:24:34,558 --> 00:24:37,728 ‐ We also looked into Brandi Peters' background. 585 00:24:37,853 --> 00:24:40,313 Because if you're a drug mule, there's gonna be something 586 00:24:40,397 --> 00:24:44,443 there that's gonna identify all this criminal activity. 587 00:24:44,568 --> 00:24:46,695 We did not reveal any information 588 00:24:46,778 --> 00:24:50,282 that would identify her as being a drug mule. 589 00:24:50,407 --> 00:24:52,576 ‐ And, Mr. Santos, isn't it also true 590 00:24:52,701 --> 00:24:57,372 that at some point, you have claimed to be from Nigeria? 591 00:24:57,456 --> 00:24:58,665 ‐ No. 592 00:24:58,749 --> 00:25:03,253 ‐ Place of birth‐‐ what does it say? 593 00:25:03,336 --> 00:25:04,671 ‐ Nigeria. 594 00:25:04,713 --> 00:25:07,924 ‐ Mr. Santos is, quite frankly, a pathological liar. 595 00:25:08,008 --> 00:25:09,885 He tries to make himself important, 596 00:25:09,968 --> 00:25:12,137 confesses to crimes that he didn't commit, 597 00:25:12,220 --> 00:25:15,515 couldn't commit, didn't have any way of committing. 598 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,643 Isn't it true you've also confessed to two other murders 599 00:25:18,727 --> 00:25:22,689 in which there was never a dead body associated with them? 600 00:25:22,773 --> 00:25:26,568 Again, for it to be the cartel, you've got to believe Santos. 601 00:25:26,651 --> 00:25:28,278 Santos is the most unbelievable person 602 00:25:28,403 --> 00:25:29,863 on the face of the Earth. 603 00:25:29,905 --> 00:25:32,032 And one of the things that the defense latched on 604 00:25:32,115 --> 00:25:34,993 was the DNA that was found that, 605 00:25:35,077 --> 00:25:38,121 in their belief, matched Angel Avila. 606 00:25:38,205 --> 00:25:41,041 But there's a whole bunch of little markers on DNA. 607 00:25:41,166 --> 00:25:43,376 So if there's 13 markers that are identified 608 00:25:43,418 --> 00:25:45,420 and I have all 13, it's me. 609 00:25:45,545 --> 00:25:47,422 Whereas one marker, quite frankly, 610 00:25:47,506 --> 00:25:49,841 I can share with everybody in this room. 611 00:25:49,925 --> 00:25:53,762 So the CODIS hit revealed not only Mr. Avila, 612 00:25:53,887 --> 00:25:56,640 but it actually revealed four other criminals as well, 613 00:25:56,723 --> 00:25:58,016 and each one of them 614 00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:00,185 were eliminated as potential suspects. 615 00:26:00,310 --> 00:26:01,686 ‐ The prosecution's tried to refute 616 00:26:01,770 --> 00:26:04,439 the defense's theory of a cartel hit. 617 00:26:04,564 --> 00:26:06,358 But if they want a guilty verdict, 618 00:26:06,483 --> 00:26:07,734 they'll still need to refocus 619 00:26:07,859 --> 00:26:10,737 the jury's attention on Henry Segura. 620 00:26:10,821 --> 00:26:12,739 ‐ The whole purpose of a cross‐examination, of course, 621 00:26:12,864 --> 00:26:14,658 is to catch the person off guard. 622 00:26:14,741 --> 00:26:17,702 So when I sat down and Ms. Dugan steps up 623 00:26:17,786 --> 00:26:19,329 to conduct the cross‐examination‐‐ 624 00:26:19,412 --> 00:26:22,165 I'll never forget it‐‐ Mr. Segura kind of leaned back, 625 00:26:22,249 --> 00:26:24,835 and he moved his hand across his face. 626 00:26:24,918 --> 00:26:26,169 And it was a telltale sign 627 00:26:26,253 --> 00:26:29,714 that he was immediately out of his comfort zone. 628 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,677 From that point on, we knew we had gotten to Mr. Segura. 629 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,428 ‐ And the way that he was‐‐responded 630 00:26:35,554 --> 00:26:38,890 to the female prosecutor worked against him. 631 00:26:39,015 --> 00:26:40,976 And that's one of the reasons 632 00:26:41,059 --> 00:26:43,770 why you need to take into account, 633 00:26:43,854 --> 00:26:46,773 before you decide to put a person in the stand, 634 00:26:46,857 --> 00:26:50,902 "Will the jury accept my client for who he is"? 635 00:26:51,027 --> 00:26:53,864 or whether they will hold it against him. 636 00:26:53,947 --> 00:26:55,448 ♪ ♪ 637 00:26:55,532 --> 00:27:01,037 ‐ And finally, after denying that you had a second phone, 638 00:27:01,121 --> 00:27:04,332 I guess about 20 times over the course of the two interviews, 639 00:27:04,416 --> 00:27:08,253 you finally admit to police that you have one, right? 640 00:27:08,336 --> 00:27:09,796 ♪ ♪ 641 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,674 ‐ I don't recall admitting to them I had a second phone. 642 00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:14,259 'Cause I hadn't got rid of the phone, 643 00:27:14,384 --> 00:27:16,678 so technically I didn't have a phone, I had a phone. 644 00:27:16,761 --> 00:27:19,514 ‐ The cell phone evidence was probably 645 00:27:19,598 --> 00:27:22,392 some of our strongest evidence in this case. 646 00:27:22,517 --> 00:27:25,562 His secret cell phone records 647 00:27:25,645 --> 00:27:28,940 showed that his location was consistent 648 00:27:29,024 --> 00:27:33,945 with being at Brandi Peters' home the time 649 00:27:34,029 --> 00:27:36,072 that these homicides would have happened. 650 00:27:36,198 --> 00:27:40,869 ‐ Brandi last used her cell phone at 6:53 p. m. 651 00:27:40,994 --> 00:27:44,456 Her phone was then powered down at 8:21 p. m. 652 00:27:44,581 --> 00:27:47,876 So they think that the murders happened 653 00:27:47,918 --> 00:27:50,712 sometime in that time frame. 654 00:27:50,837 --> 00:27:52,088 ‐ So why did you throw the phone away 655 00:27:52,172 --> 00:27:54,090 just a few days after these murders? 656 00:27:54,216 --> 00:27:57,844 ‐ Well, I assumed that the police‐‐ 657 00:27:57,969 --> 00:28:00,263 excuse me‐‐were gonna get in touch with my wife, 658 00:28:00,388 --> 00:28:01,681 and I wanted to be sure 659 00:28:01,765 --> 00:28:04,100 she didn't have any access to that telephone. 660 00:28:04,226 --> 00:28:07,229 ‐ The cell phone location, the cell phone pinging 661 00:28:07,312 --> 00:28:10,273 at Brandi's house‐‐ because Henry Segura 662 00:28:10,357 --> 00:28:13,235 tried so hard to distance himself 663 00:28:13,318 --> 00:28:16,529 from Brandi and Brandi's house on that day, 664 00:28:16,613 --> 00:28:18,865 I found that to be very damning. 665 00:28:18,907 --> 00:28:21,576 ‐ Henry Segura has got the motive, 666 00:28:21,660 --> 00:28:23,036 he has got the means, 667 00:28:23,161 --> 00:28:26,456 and he's got the opportunity for this murder. 668 00:28:26,581 --> 00:28:28,124 Further, Tyler Moore, 669 00:28:28,250 --> 00:28:30,043 friend of his‐‐ lifelong friend of his‐‐ 670 00:28:30,085 --> 00:28:32,963 has previously seen him with a .32‐caliber gun. 671 00:28:33,046 --> 00:28:36,841 Of course, the weapon that was used and shot in the house, 672 00:28:36,925 --> 00:28:38,718 with ten recovered projectiles, 673 00:28:38,843 --> 00:28:40,887 is a .32‐caliber. 674 00:28:41,012 --> 00:28:44,182 When do coincidences stop being coincidences? 675 00:28:44,224 --> 00:28:46,893 ‐ The murder weapon in this case was never found. 676 00:28:47,018 --> 00:28:51,189 But just the fact that he definitely owned the same type 677 00:28:51,273 --> 00:28:56,152 of gun that killed Brandi and her daughter Tamiyah 678 00:28:56,236 --> 00:29:00,365 is definitely another point that is not in his favor. 679 00:29:00,407 --> 00:29:02,033 ‐ The prosecution has placed Henry Segura 680 00:29:02,158 --> 00:29:04,077 at the crime scene around the time 681 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,787 they believe the murders occurred. 682 00:29:05,870 --> 00:29:07,914 But will that be enough to convince the jury 683 00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:09,541 he killed his own son 684 00:29:09,666 --> 00:29:11,668 in addition to three other victims? 685 00:29:11,751 --> 00:29:13,295 Ten months after the murders occurred, 686 00:29:13,378 --> 00:29:16,881 Henry Segura was arrested and charged in Minnesota. 687 00:29:17,007 --> 00:29:19,134 While awaiting transfer back to Tallahassee, 688 00:29:19,217 --> 00:29:23,013 Segura and his wife, Malica, had a phone conversation 689 00:29:23,096 --> 00:29:27,017 prosecutors believe connects him to the murders. 690 00:29:44,576 --> 00:29:48,413 ‐ It was our contention that he was essentially saying 691 00:29:48,538 --> 00:29:49,914 at that particular time 692 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,292 that he certainly was involved in this case. 693 00:29:52,417 --> 00:29:55,128 ‐ It's strictly my opinion, but I do believe 694 00:29:55,211 --> 00:29:57,756 that Henry Segura's wife and Mr. Segura 695 00:29:57,881 --> 00:30:01,009 are aware of why the murders occurred. 696 00:30:01,051 --> 00:30:05,680 The state of Florida sent a letter to Henry's house 697 00:30:05,764 --> 00:30:08,099 while he was on the road working. 698 00:30:08,224 --> 00:30:09,851 I believe Malica opened it up, 699 00:30:09,934 --> 00:30:11,853 and it says, "You have to pay child support, 700 00:30:11,978 --> 00:30:13,313 $800‐something." 701 00:30:13,396 --> 00:30:15,690 ‐ I showed his bank statement at the time. 702 00:30:15,815 --> 00:30:18,026 I mean, he was living paycheck to paycheck. 703 00:30:18,151 --> 00:30:20,904 You had $106 in your account. ‐ Yeah. In the account, yes. 704 00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:22,447 ‐ And this was your available balance 705 00:30:22,572 --> 00:30:23,615 the day before these murders. 706 00:30:23,698 --> 00:30:25,116 ‐ Right. ‐ Okay. 707 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,120 This is also for a child who the mother of the child 708 00:30:29,245 --> 00:30:32,332 is taunting him and saying, you know, 709 00:30:32,415 --> 00:30:34,876 "You better pay me my money, or you're gonna be in jail. 710 00:30:35,001 --> 00:30:36,669 I'm gonna make sure you go to jail." 711 00:30:36,795 --> 00:30:39,255 So I think that was very frustrating for him. 712 00:30:39,339 --> 00:30:41,174 I'm sure his wife wasn't happy at home 713 00:30:41,299 --> 00:30:43,343 and he's having to hear it from there too. 714 00:30:43,468 --> 00:30:45,178 ‐ If I'm gonna kill JaVonte, why not bring him 715 00:30:45,261 --> 00:30:46,679 home with me and kill Brandi? 716 00:30:46,763 --> 00:30:48,139 That way, I don't have to pay child support 717 00:30:48,223 --> 00:30:49,599 and I can raise my son like I want to. 718 00:30:49,724 --> 00:30:52,602 ‐ You were willing to lie to police 719 00:30:52,727 --> 00:30:55,021 about a murder charge of children 720 00:30:55,146 --> 00:30:57,023 in order to protect your wife from knowing 721 00:30:57,107 --> 00:30:59,734 that you were just even over at Brandi's house. 722 00:30:59,859 --> 00:31:01,194 But you're saying that your wife 723 00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:03,196 and you would have welcomed Brandi's child 724 00:31:03,238 --> 00:31:05,198 with you into your home and raised him as your own? 725 00:31:05,323 --> 00:31:06,866 ‐ That's not what I'm saying. 726 00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:08,743 My wife would not have welcomed Brandi's son 727 00:31:08,868 --> 00:31:10,328 and my son into our home. 728 00:31:10,412 --> 00:31:13,415 ‐ Brandi Peters and Malica Segura 729 00:31:13,498 --> 00:31:16,126 argued over Henry, 730 00:31:16,251 --> 00:31:19,504 and I think once Malica became aware of the child, 731 00:31:19,587 --> 00:31:21,339 that created extra tension. 732 00:31:21,423 --> 00:31:24,509 So that tension became an erupting volcano, 733 00:31:24,634 --> 00:31:27,095 and that's what caused this. 734 00:31:33,226 --> 00:31:36,479 ‐ He probably killed his mistress for his wife. 735 00:31:36,563 --> 00:31:41,276 He got rid of this second family that he had for her. 736 00:31:46,239 --> 00:31:47,031 ‐ I promised my wife that I wouldn't cheat on her no more. 737 00:31:47,157 --> 00:31:48,074 So after I made the promise to her, 738 00:31:48,158 --> 00:31:49,242 that's when I tried to stop 739 00:31:49,367 --> 00:31:50,869 talking with all the rest of the girls. 740 00:31:50,994 --> 00:31:53,079 But eventually, I started back talking to them. 741 00:31:53,204 --> 00:31:55,206 ‐ It's been nine years since Brandi Peters 742 00:31:55,290 --> 00:31:56,749 and her three young children 743 00:31:56,875 --> 00:31:59,085 were viciously murdered in their home. 744 00:31:59,169 --> 00:32:01,212 Henry Segura, Brandi's ex‐boyfriend, 745 00:32:01,296 --> 00:32:02,755 stands accused of the crime, 746 00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:04,716 despite maintaining his innocence. 747 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,469 The prosecution's established that he had the opportunity 748 00:32:07,552 --> 00:32:09,971 and a motive, while the defense has pointed 749 00:32:10,054 --> 00:32:12,515 the finger directly at another culprit. 750 00:32:12,557 --> 00:32:15,477 And it's the prosecutors that have to prove the case 751 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,228 beyond a reasonable doubt. 752 00:32:17,312 --> 00:32:21,399 ‐ The prosecution painted Henry Segura as this big, 753 00:32:21,524 --> 00:32:25,069 bad man who didn't care about any woman, 754 00:32:25,153 --> 00:32:27,572 that was actually taking advantage of women, 755 00:32:27,655 --> 00:32:29,115 was sleeping around, 756 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,701 and not caring about supporting any of the kids. 757 00:32:31,784 --> 00:32:33,077 ‐ One of the things we tried to do 758 00:32:33,161 --> 00:32:35,622 is show Mr. Segura for who he was, 759 00:32:35,747 --> 00:32:39,542 that he wasn't this lovable guy that cared about his kid, 760 00:32:39,626 --> 00:32:42,003 and hopefully paints the picture in the jurors 761 00:32:42,086 --> 00:32:45,507 that he is someone who can commit a crime like this, 762 00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:48,426 in killing three children and Ms. Peters. 763 00:32:48,551 --> 00:32:50,261 ‐ You do have an update in the investigation, 764 00:32:50,345 --> 00:32:52,847 and the update is, "They think I did it." 765 00:32:52,931 --> 00:32:54,265 And at that point, 766 00:32:54,349 --> 00:32:55,975 you and your wife were not on good terms. 767 00:32:56,059 --> 00:32:57,352 She knows you have another girlfriend. 768 00:32:57,435 --> 00:32:59,187 So why not go to the police and just say, 769 00:32:59,229 --> 00:33:01,731 "You've got the wrong guy. Here's why I lied to you"? 770 00:33:01,814 --> 00:33:03,608 ‐ Yes, I told the lady Johnson‐‐ 771 00:33:03,733 --> 00:33:04,817 Investigator Johnson... 772 00:33:04,901 --> 00:33:06,152 ‐ You told her‐‐ 773 00:33:06,236 --> 00:33:07,904 ‐ Over the phone that I was cheating on my wife 774 00:33:08,029 --> 00:33:09,322 and I didn't want y'all to find out. 775 00:33:09,405 --> 00:33:11,991 And she‐‐ [hiccups] Excuse me. 776 00:33:12,075 --> 00:33:15,036 And she‐‐like I say, she went back and forth, 777 00:33:15,161 --> 00:33:17,580 and we was arguing about she know I killed my son. 778 00:33:17,705 --> 00:33:19,165 "We're gonna arrest you for killing your son." 779 00:33:19,249 --> 00:33:20,750 And I hung up on her. 780 00:33:20,875 --> 00:33:23,545 ‐ When she was doing the questioning of Henry Segura, 781 00:33:23,670 --> 00:33:27,382 you had her, line by line, question by question, 782 00:33:27,507 --> 00:33:30,176 getting under the skin of Henry Segura. 783 00:33:30,301 --> 00:33:33,429 ‐ So your testimony is that you told police in this case 784 00:33:33,513 --> 00:33:34,931 over the phone‐‐ ‐ Investigator Johnson. 785 00:33:35,014 --> 00:33:36,140 ‐ Johnson. 786 00:33:38,810 --> 00:33:40,979 ‐ She's asking the same question over and over. 787 00:33:41,062 --> 00:33:42,355 ‐ No, she's‐‐ 788 00:33:44,274 --> 00:33:46,401 ‐ Who you pointing at? Who you pointing at? 789 00:33:47,610 --> 00:33:49,028 ‐ I'm a grown man. 790 00:33:51,281 --> 00:33:52,782 ‐ Yeah, that's very clear. 791 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,663 ‐ In person, you felt the whole room tense up. 792 00:33:58,746 --> 00:34:04,544 And I felt the jury tense up. They felt how angry he was. 793 00:34:04,627 --> 00:34:07,046 What we saw right there‐‐ the temper, right? 794 00:34:07,171 --> 00:34:08,840 ‐ I'm getting aggravated 'cause you keep asking me 795 00:34:08,923 --> 00:34:10,258 the same questions over and over, 796 00:34:10,383 --> 00:34:11,801 like you're expecting a different answer. 797 00:34:11,884 --> 00:34:14,429 ‐ You'd probably be the first one to tell us this. 798 00:34:14,554 --> 00:34:17,223 Brandi‐‐she tells you what's on her mind. 799 00:34:17,348 --> 00:34:19,350 She's not one to hold her tongue, right? 800 00:34:19,475 --> 00:34:20,727 ‐ Neither am I. 801 00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:24,522 ‐ Is that kind of what just started this whole thing? 802 00:34:24,647 --> 00:34:28,151 ‐ You're dealing with a case where a woman was killed, 803 00:34:28,234 --> 00:34:30,111 as well as her three kids. 804 00:34:30,194 --> 00:34:32,572 So when you think about that, you think about‐‐ 805 00:34:32,697 --> 00:34:34,824 the person that is capable of doing that 806 00:34:34,907 --> 00:34:38,119 is someone who is violent, is someone who gets angry, 807 00:34:38,202 --> 00:34:41,122 is someone who has no respect for authority, 808 00:34:41,247 --> 00:34:43,291 someone who has no respect for women. 809 00:34:43,416 --> 00:34:45,627 And for that brief couple of seconds, 810 00:34:45,752 --> 00:34:50,506 we became eyewitnesses to who the real Henry Segura was 811 00:34:50,590 --> 00:34:52,800 when he responded to the judge. 812 00:34:52,884 --> 00:34:55,970 ‐ What you got to see is the true Henry Segura, 813 00:34:56,054 --> 00:34:59,432 the man that gets frustrated and snaps 814 00:34:59,557 --> 00:35:00,933 and gets angry. 815 00:35:01,059 --> 00:35:06,230 Snaps at Judge Hankinson, "I'm a grown man." 816 00:35:06,356 --> 00:35:11,277 Imagine what he would do to Brandi Peters 817 00:35:11,402 --> 00:35:14,030 if he's willing to do that here in court 818 00:35:14,072 --> 00:35:15,740 while he's on trial for murder. 819 00:35:15,865 --> 00:35:19,744 Henry Segura was there when her phone stopped communicating, 820 00:35:19,869 --> 00:35:23,831 when she stopped being able to communicate with her phone, 821 00:35:23,915 --> 00:35:25,166 when she was murdered. 822 00:35:25,249 --> 00:35:27,293 ‐ Watching Henry Segura on the stand, 823 00:35:27,418 --> 00:35:30,755 what you saw was a person that was angry, 824 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,257 a person that lacked emotion, 825 00:35:33,383 --> 00:35:37,553 a person that was disrespectful. 826 00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:40,264 These are all the words that came to mind 827 00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:43,893 because of how he came off on the stand. 828 00:35:43,976 --> 00:35:45,353 So if I'm saying this, 829 00:35:45,436 --> 00:35:48,690 just imagine what the jury was thinking. 830 00:35:48,773 --> 00:35:50,650 ‐ Henry had an emotional outburst at the judge 831 00:35:50,733 --> 00:35:52,985 because of ten years of built‐up frustration, 832 00:35:53,069 --> 00:35:54,362 and it cost him. 833 00:35:54,404 --> 00:35:56,531 But, you know, fortunately, 834 00:35:56,614 --> 00:35:59,450 there was a mountain of exculpatory evidence. 835 00:35:59,534 --> 00:36:01,536 These are Brandi's own words in the days 836 00:36:01,619 --> 00:36:03,454 and weeks leading up to her murder. 837 00:36:03,538 --> 00:36:05,081 "I'm going crazy right now, 838 00:36:05,206 --> 00:36:06,874 "so he need to let me know something. 839 00:36:06,958 --> 00:36:11,087 Because I don't play with me and my kids' life." 840 00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:12,463 Those are her words. 841 00:36:12,547 --> 00:36:14,340 She ain't writing that about Henry Segura. 842 00:36:14,465 --> 00:36:16,342 She's writing that back and forth about this guy 843 00:36:16,426 --> 00:36:18,970 that Santos is trying to send her to go see. 844 00:36:19,053 --> 00:36:20,346 You don't want to believe Santos? 845 00:36:20,388 --> 00:36:22,598 Don't believe Santos. Believe Brandi. 846 00:36:22,724 --> 00:36:24,475 You don't want to believe the shoe impressions? 847 00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:26,227 You don't want to believe the DNA? 848 00:36:26,352 --> 00:36:27,770 You don't want to believe the blood spatter? 849 00:36:27,854 --> 00:36:29,188 You don't want to believe the cell phone stuff? 850 00:36:29,272 --> 00:36:30,273 You don't want to believe Henry? 851 00:36:30,398 --> 00:36:31,524 All that's fine. 852 00:36:31,649 --> 00:36:33,359 Believe the one person who the state 853 00:36:33,484 --> 00:36:35,695 won't cross‐examine, Brandi Peters. 854 00:36:35,778 --> 00:36:37,613 She knew what she was in danger from. 855 00:36:37,697 --> 00:36:40,867 She knew best what she was in danger from. 856 00:36:40,908 --> 00:36:42,118 I would also submit to you 857 00:36:42,243 --> 00:36:43,703 what Artron Timmons' testimony was. 858 00:36:43,828 --> 00:36:45,496 He said the girls and JaVonte ate dinner 859 00:36:45,580 --> 00:36:47,165 at their house about 7:00. 860 00:36:47,248 --> 00:36:50,042 That's the unrebutted evidence about when their last meal was. 861 00:36:50,126 --> 00:36:52,754 The medical adviser testified that the food in their stomachs 862 00:36:52,879 --> 00:36:55,256 had been digesting for at least three hours 863 00:36:55,381 --> 00:36:56,799 as of the time of their death. 864 00:36:56,883 --> 00:36:59,761 That puts the time of death 10:00, 10:30, 11:00, 865 00:36:59,886 --> 00:37:01,095 at the very earliest. 866 00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:02,680 Why is that significant? 867 00:37:02,764 --> 00:37:07,351 Everybody agrees Henry's back down in Woodville by 9:30 p. m. 868 00:37:07,435 --> 00:37:10,646 Never comes back up anywhere near Brandi's house that night. 869 00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:13,149 That was the undisputed, unrebutted testimony 870 00:37:13,232 --> 00:37:14,859 by both cell phone experts. 871 00:37:14,901 --> 00:37:16,152 I would submit to you 872 00:37:16,235 --> 00:37:18,362 that the combination of the time of death 873 00:37:18,446 --> 00:37:20,490 with Mr. Segura's activities that evening, 874 00:37:20,573 --> 00:37:23,951 by themselves, conclusively rebut any idea 875 00:37:24,076 --> 00:37:25,369 that he could have been involved 876 00:37:25,453 --> 00:37:27,455 in the commission of the offenses. 877 00:37:27,580 --> 00:37:30,416 ‐ When Mr. Prince gave his closing argument, 878 00:37:30,541 --> 00:37:33,211 I remember thinking, "Uh‐oh." 879 00:37:38,341 --> 00:37:41,552 ‐ Mr. Segura has waited patiently for nine years. 880 00:37:41,636 --> 00:37:43,596 I put him on the stand knowing he's not a superstar witness. 881 00:37:43,721 --> 00:37:45,223 And they want to try and say, 882 00:37:45,348 --> 00:37:46,849 because he gets frustrated, that he's the killer? 883 00:37:46,891 --> 00:37:48,518 Is that your best evidence that he's the killer? 884 00:37:48,601 --> 00:37:50,603 As he told you himself on the stand, 885 00:37:50,728 --> 00:37:53,397 he's been in custody for eight years 886 00:37:53,523 --> 00:37:55,566 for an offense he didn't commit! 887 00:37:55,650 --> 00:37:56,984 You have the power to save. 888 00:37:57,068 --> 00:37:58,444 You have the power to take life. 889 00:37:58,569 --> 00:38:00,196 I ask that you follow the law, 890 00:38:00,279 --> 00:38:02,865 that you find Mr. Segura not guilty. 891 00:38:02,907 --> 00:38:05,493 ‐ After his first trial ended in a hung jury, 892 00:38:05,576 --> 00:38:08,704 Henry Segura is again facing the death penalty 893 00:38:08,830 --> 00:38:11,374 for the murders of his ex‐girlfriend Brandi Peters, 894 00:38:11,415 --> 00:38:13,084 her six‐year‐old twin daughters, 895 00:38:13,167 --> 00:38:15,127 and their three‐year‐old son. 896 00:38:15,211 --> 00:38:17,421 Both the prosecution and defense presented 897 00:38:17,547 --> 00:38:18,840 compelling evidence. 898 00:38:18,923 --> 00:38:22,343 But have they done enough to get a unanimous verdict 899 00:38:22,385 --> 00:38:24,470 and avoid a second mistrial? 900 00:38:24,554 --> 00:38:26,722 ‐ So I remember, after Nate's closing‐‐ 901 00:38:26,848 --> 00:38:28,599 it was very good, very passionate‐‐ 902 00:38:28,683 --> 00:38:30,893 I got the chance for rebuttal, and I remember saying, 903 00:38:30,977 --> 00:38:33,521 "I've got to figure out how I can possibly answer that." 904 00:38:33,604 --> 00:38:37,358 Why are all the wounds in one area? 905 00:38:37,483 --> 00:38:41,612 All of them are on her head and defensive. 906 00:38:41,737 --> 00:38:44,866 If you have multiple people doing this, 907 00:38:44,949 --> 00:38:46,909 you're gonna get it in more than one spot. 908 00:38:47,034 --> 00:38:49,954 Otherwise, their hands are gonna be hitting each other. 909 00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,039 And that's not what you have. 910 00:38:52,123 --> 00:38:53,624 There's no one else 911 00:38:53,749 --> 00:38:56,377 that it makes sense committed this crime. 912 00:38:56,502 --> 00:38:59,338 There's no one else that has that motive 913 00:38:59,463 --> 00:39:02,258 and has a .32 revolver 914 00:39:02,383 --> 00:39:06,721 and was there on the day 915 00:39:06,846 --> 00:39:08,681 at the time. 916 00:39:08,764 --> 00:39:10,516 You never know with a jury, 917 00:39:10,558 --> 00:39:15,521 so there certainly is not a situation in this trial 918 00:39:15,563 --> 00:39:18,691 that I was ever confident in a verdict. 919 00:39:18,733 --> 00:39:20,985 ‐ I felt good, like, logically. 920 00:39:21,068 --> 00:39:24,989 But it's hard to get them to get past the emotion 921 00:39:25,072 --> 00:39:26,324 of seeing dead children. 922 00:39:26,407 --> 00:39:28,117 A lot of those jurors were parents. 923 00:39:28,242 --> 00:39:31,078 [dramatic music] 924 00:39:31,203 --> 00:39:34,290 ♪ ♪ 925 00:39:34,373 --> 00:39:37,043 ‐ State of Florida versus Henry Segura. 926 00:39:37,168 --> 00:39:38,628 We, the jury, find as follows: 927 00:39:38,711 --> 00:39:40,379 as to count one of the indictment, 928 00:39:40,504 --> 00:39:44,050 concerning the murders of Brandi Peters, 929 00:39:44,133 --> 00:39:48,763 the jury finds the defendant is guilty of first‐degree murder. 930 00:39:48,888 --> 00:39:50,932 ‐ Henry Segura was convicted on all four counts 931 00:39:51,015 --> 00:39:53,434 of the first‐degree murder of Brandi Peters 932 00:39:53,517 --> 00:39:54,936 and her children. 933 00:39:55,019 --> 00:39:57,813 The defense made a huge bet on a six‐person jury, 934 00:39:57,897 --> 00:39:59,690 hoping for an all‐out acquittal. 935 00:39:59,815 --> 00:40:03,819 But that gamble ultimately did not work in their favor. 936 00:40:03,903 --> 00:40:06,697 ‐ When the verdict came back, Henry looks at me and says, 937 00:40:06,739 --> 00:40:09,825 "Well, you know, at least the family 938 00:40:09,909 --> 00:40:12,620 can have some sense of peace about this now." 939 00:40:12,745 --> 00:40:15,831 That just‐‐it really stung, but it's really illustrative 940 00:40:15,915 --> 00:40:19,001 of a more complete picture of who he is. 941 00:40:19,085 --> 00:40:20,920 Children on the autopsy table‐‐it's horrible. 942 00:40:21,045 --> 00:40:23,089 It's something that you can't unsee once you've seen it, 943 00:40:23,172 --> 00:40:26,968 you know, and that makes a jury want to punish someone. 944 00:40:27,051 --> 00:40:30,054 In some ways, they would rather punish the wrong person 945 00:40:30,179 --> 00:40:31,722 than that nobody get punished. 946 00:40:31,806 --> 00:40:33,766 ‐ Quite frankly, there's a lot of people in this community 947 00:40:33,891 --> 00:40:35,267 that still think he's innocent, 948 00:40:35,393 --> 00:40:36,727 that the Mexican cartel did it. 949 00:40:36,811 --> 00:40:38,771 But the Federal Bureau of Investigations 950 00:40:38,896 --> 00:40:41,357 all did everything to both prove 951 00:40:41,399 --> 00:40:44,527 and disprove Mr. Segura's guilt, 952 00:40:44,652 --> 00:40:47,196 and ultimately we were extremely confident 953 00:40:47,238 --> 00:40:48,698 we got the right guy. 954 00:40:48,823 --> 00:40:50,866 ‐ I honestly think this is probably the only time 955 00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:54,036 that I know that my client is innocent, for sure. 956 00:40:54,161 --> 00:40:57,623 And it really just, like‐‐ 957 00:40:57,748 --> 00:40:59,041 felt like a punch in the gut to me, 958 00:40:59,125 --> 00:41:01,502 that I just had some hand in allowing Henry 959 00:41:01,544 --> 00:41:03,754 to get convicted, despite my best effort. 960 00:41:03,838 --> 00:41:05,881 ‐ Taking the stand might have helped Henry Segura 961 00:41:06,007 --> 00:41:08,509 avoid a guilty verdict in his first trial, 962 00:41:08,592 --> 00:41:11,178 but did that brief flash of frustration 963 00:41:11,262 --> 00:41:13,014 this time make the difference? 964 00:41:13,097 --> 00:41:14,974 Nevertheless, was Henry Segura's testimony 965 00:41:15,057 --> 00:41:18,769 enough to at least convince the jury to spare his life? 966 00:41:18,894 --> 00:41:20,479 ‐ Whoever was responsible for these crimes 967 00:41:20,563 --> 00:41:22,023 deserve the death penalty. 968 00:41:22,148 --> 00:41:23,274 If they feel I'm guilty, 969 00:41:23,357 --> 00:41:24,358 then they should sentence me to death. 970 00:41:24,442 --> 00:41:25,860 ♪ ♪ 971 00:41:25,943 --> 00:41:30,698 ‐ We, the jury, unanimously find that Henry Segura 972 00:41:30,781 --> 00:41:34,201 should not be sentenced to death. 973 00:41:34,243 --> 00:41:37,747 On each count, I sentence you to life in prison. 974 00:41:37,830 --> 00:41:39,040 ♪ ♪ 975 00:41:39,123 --> 00:41:42,293 ‐ Henry Segura's sentence for quadruple murder 976 00:41:42,376 --> 00:41:43,753 involving three children: 977 00:41:43,878 --> 00:41:48,049 life in prison without the possibility of parole. 978 00:41:48,174 --> 00:41:51,510 ‐ The verdict in this case is honestly, like, 979 00:41:51,635 --> 00:41:53,971 the perfect ending to this trial. 980 00:41:54,055 --> 00:41:55,473 They found him guilty. 981 00:41:55,556 --> 00:41:58,476 But then they sentenced him to life in prison. 982 00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:01,395 I'm not really sure what it says 983 00:42:01,479 --> 00:42:06,442 about what they believe about Henry's guilt. 984 00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:09,570 What could be more fitting of the death penalty 985 00:42:09,653 --> 00:42:12,323 than a quadruple homicide? 986 00:42:12,406 --> 00:42:14,408 I don't know that anybody 987 00:42:14,533 --> 00:42:17,244 will ever know for sure if Henry Segura 988 00:42:17,369 --> 00:42:22,124 really murdered Brandi Peters and her three children. 989 00:42:22,208 --> 00:42:25,336 ‐ Defendants are never forced to take the stand. 990 00:42:25,419 --> 00:42:28,130 But that decision is likely the biggest one 991 00:42:28,214 --> 00:42:29,673 they ever make. 992 00:42:29,757 --> 00:42:32,343 For "Under Other," I'm Dan Abrams. 993 00:42:32,468 --> 00:42:35,054 ♪ ♪