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Oliver...
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This was clearly meant to look
exactly like the Donkey Pitch.
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I'm calling the police.
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I found spots.
Are you sure it's not blood?
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Our phone lines have been cut.
DOORBELL RINGS
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Hello.
I'm Detective Inspector Honey.
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This is Detective Sergeant Molina.
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Your neighbour,
did he take your brother?
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Yes, Ma'am.
And no-one ever found him?
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Where's my daughter? Where is she?
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You're not the police.
You lied to us.
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If we don't know what you want,
how can we help you?
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We want you to be scared.
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I found her in the woods,
near the Donkey Pitch.
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Why do you care about a dog?
I don't.
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I care about this.
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I'll find the dog's owner,
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but you'll get information
about my brother in return.
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We have a deal.
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She's swallowed something.
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It appears to be jewellery.
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Minnet Kable didn't just
take my granddaughter that day.
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What are you doing
on my crime scene?
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Means the world to me
that the right man is behind bars.
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Because he is the one.
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Right?
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I didn't throw
the Donkey Pitch case.
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But your theory on those murders...
It's full of holes.
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It never was one stupid man.
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It was two very smart ones.
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The killers were never caught.
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They're still out there.
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THUNDER RUMBLES, RAIN LASHES
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I'm sorry. I know it's a bad time
for this.
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I didn't mean for them to send you.
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Well, it's too late
to walk it back now.
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But I didn't want them...
Yes, you did.
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You called CID
in the middle of the night.
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Shared a theory you'd developed
based on nothing.
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You know, when I was a Sergeant and
I had theories, no-one gave a shit.
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Wonder why?
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How many kids were there?
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Maybe 100.
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They scattered.
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Anything found
in the initial search?
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We haven't done one.
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We're just waiting on someone
to fix the lights.
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Because we're literally afraid
of the dark?
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Well, don't be scared, boys.
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I don't think she'll bite.
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There was a report of
a possible gunshot.
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Possible?
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Or maybe fireworks.
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Damn.
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For a minute there, I got excited.
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Sorry. I know the sort of stuff
you're used to dealing with...
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I've heard about your cases.
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Can I ask you something?
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I've got a friend who's a paramedic.
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Or...she WAS a paramedic.
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She quit.
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Think it was like,
a final-straw situation, you know?
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Had to do with a bloke.
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In a bathtub.
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They called it Dead Man Talking.
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She quit because of THAT?
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Was he still really able to speak?
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You know, after he'd done it?
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The vocal cords
sit on top of the windpipe.
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So you wouldn't necessarily
cut through that bit,
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even if you slice clean
through your own throat.
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Didn't know that.
Neither did I, at the time.
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What did he say?
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He said that he'd warned me.
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Which he had.
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Said I wouldn't want to see
what he was going to do.
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I'd said I could handle it.
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They set up another generator
down here?
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I don't know.
All the ravers legged it.
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SHE SIGHS
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These cables connect to something.
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What IS that?
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Oh, fuck!
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RAGGED BREATHING
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What?
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Shine the light down.
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Eh? Do it.
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HISSING
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MUSIC: Figaro's Aria
from The Barber Of Seville
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HE SINGS ALONG:
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# Della citta. #
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Tilly!
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HE WEEPS
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It's OK.
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Lights, please.
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HE WEEPS
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I'm so sorry.
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We've got you.
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It's all right, it's all right.
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You all right there, darling?
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Supposed to be good for your looks.
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A little hang upside down does
wonders for the complexion.
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She almost died.
But she didn't, though, did she?
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I do hate melodrama.
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It's time.
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HE POPS HIS LIPS
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Mrs A?
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I need you to do something for us.
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Please, please, just leave her be.
Please.
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Jump on up.
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Come on, old girl.
Give a little hop.
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Oh, God.
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Stop it!
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She can't stand!
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No.
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SHE WHIMPERS
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No, no, no.
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Don't touch her. Please, please.
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Oliver.
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Relax.
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He thinks
we're going to rape his wife.
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But we're not rapists.
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Of course we're not.
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But that's what he's thinking.
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Mrs A's worried about it, too.
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She is? She thinks
we're going to rape the daughter.
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That's AWFUL.
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They're a family of perverts.
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Oh, I forgot to tell you -
you'll like this.
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Mrs Anchor-Ferrers
also has a theory.
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She thinks we're obsessed
with Minnet Kable.
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She thinks we're copying him.
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So if all of that's true,
then we're...
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..copycat murderer rapists?
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I don't think anyone's considered
a third explanation
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about who we might be.
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Maybe we should help them out a bit.
What do you reckon?
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They might appreciate some clarity.
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Are you really going to do this?
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Because the Donkey Pitch is closed.
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Doesn't mean I can't... And you
don't even work in Wales any more.
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Open or closed, Wales or London,
I have the authority...
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Oh, for fuck's sake.
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I'm not asking about the reach
of your authority.
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Though it is interesting timing
to be pushing things, isn't it?
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Aren't you already looking
at a suspension?
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We can both do
off-duty detective work.
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Why do you care what I do?
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Because this is my case,
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it's solved, and you don't
even live in this country any more.
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What you're doing is weird.
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Why are you doing it?
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It's five years
since the Donkey Pitch.
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The anniversary. So? So...
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I found a note, asking for help.
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There wasn't an address, but...
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Where did you find this note?
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On a dog's collar.
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I'm fighting my instinct
to mock you,
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because I just love that statement
hanging in the air!
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I know how it sounds,
but it's more than just a note.
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It's the dog herself.
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Did she tell you something?
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She'd swallowed a bunch of things.
They were stuck in her intestines.
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Wha...? And she was found
on the Donkey Pitch,
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the exact same spot.
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Look, I think the wrong killer
is in prison.
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And if the right ones
are still out there,
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what if something's about to happen?
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If something happens tomorrow,
if someone is hurt tomorrow...
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..and I did nothing to stop it
today, I don't think I could...
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Wow, Jack.
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You're such a great guy.
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SHE CHUCKLES DRYLY
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DOOR CLOSES
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Darling, would you tuck your blouse
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up into your bra, please?
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But, you just said that you weren't
going to do anything like that.
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I just want to see your stomach.
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That's all I want to do.
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That's all?
Cross my heart, hope to die.
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Anything you two want,
you can have it.
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Did you hear me?
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Whatever you two want,
you can have...
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Shut up, shut up!
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SHUT UP!
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Ugh. Whoo.
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Now your trousers - if you could
just wiggle them down a bit.
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But...
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..but you said all I had to do
was the blouse.
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Ugh.
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I'm really shite at keeping
promises, aren't I, DS Molina?
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It's not your strong point.
It's not.
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Now...
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..lower the trousers
down on your hips.
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Please understand that in order
for us to explain who we are,
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I will need access to your abdomen.
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Just, please, let her go.
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We'll...we'll do anything.
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We'll give you anything!
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Just how much did you hear about
the way Sophie and Hugo died, Mrs A?
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I know you know about the bit
with the intestines in the trees,
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you clever girl.
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But do you know where Minnet Kable
made his cuts?
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Because he didn't
just slice and dice.
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It was all quite carefully planned.
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I'd like to show you, if that's OK.
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And while I'm drawing...
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..perhaps you can ask yourself,
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how might these two handsome men
know such incredible details
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about the Donkey Pitch murders?
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Why, it almost seems as if they'd
have to have been there themselves.
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I feel like they just got it.
They did, indeed.
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They understand it was us
on the Donkey Pitch.
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Well,
now you're just overexplaining.
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WHISPERS: Sorry.
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Oh, darling.
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You can make noise if you like.
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It's cliche to say,
but in this instance it's true.
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There's no-one to hear you scream.
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SHE SCREAMS
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It's your company's sponsor mark
on the ring.
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You mean it's my FATHER'S company's
sponsor mark is on the ring.
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Right. Sorry. Anyway, it says
"To Matilda, love 'Jimmy'."
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And the "Jimmy" is in quotes.
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So if you can just do a
quick search for any engravings
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you've done for a James, then
I can cross reference the hits
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with marriages to Matildas.
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Right, and when you say,
do a quick search,
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and "hits" and all that, are you
talking about using a computer?
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Yeah.
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No computers here.
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Your company doesn't use computers?
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My father's company
didn't use computers.
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I'm a software developer.
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So, searching manually, then...
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..how long do you reckon
that might take?
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CLEARS THROAT
This side of Christmas, probably.
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PARKING TICKET MACHINE BEEPS
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No, that's no bother. No,
I need to arrange a prison visit.
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My name's Minnet Kable.
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Yeah, that's him.
Double murder. Couple of kids.
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MACHINE WHIRS
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RECORDING: This interview is
being tape recorded.
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The time is 10:15am,
and the date is the 11th May 2018.
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I'm Detective Inspector
Maia Lincoln.
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This is Detective Inspector
Gareth Matthews.
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We'd like to talk to you
about Sophie and Hugo.
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We're trying to understand
a bit more about who they were.
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So we're talking to everyone
they knew.
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Their friends, their classmates,
the whole school.
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To be clear,
none of you are suspects.
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What can you tell us
about Sophie and Hugo?
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What were they like?
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They were OK.
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Just OK?
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I mean, they were nice, I guess.
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Can you be a little more specific?
259
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I don't know.
260
00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,280
Can you think of anyone
that might have a reason
261
00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,280
to want to hurt Sophie or Hugo?
262
00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,080
Maybe.
263
00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,640
Maybe?
264
00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,320
I just mean, like, maybe,
265
00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,200
because everyone fights
with someone sometimes.
266
00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,520
So nothing specific comes to mind?
267
00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,320
I was being hypothetical.
268
00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,200
HE CHUCKLES
269
00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,200
Did they ever say anything
that might make you think
270
00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,920
that they were in trouble?
271
00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,520
No.
272
00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,640
Were they acting differently, maybe?
273
00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,800
You know, any kind of unusual
behaviour?
274
00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,560
No.
275
00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,120
Did Sophie ever mention a boyfriend,
maybe someone older?
276
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No.
277
00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,000
Can you think of anything else
that we should know?
278
00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,520
Anything at all?
279
00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,360
Sophie and Hugo hung out
with Emily and Max.
280
00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,040
The four of them
did everything together.
281
00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,520
They were exclusive.
282
00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,680
How did the other students feel
about them?
283
00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,520
Everyone hates the popular kids.
284
00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,240
But they weren't total dicks.
Beth...
285
00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,760
Emily's, like, this medium-dick.
286
00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,880
Like, shitty-online-but-mostly-OK-
to-your-face, medium-dick.
287
00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,280
Know what I mean?
288
00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,080
Yeah, I do.
289
00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,200
Look, you're wasting your time
talking to the whole school.
290
00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,280
Most of us never even spoke
to those four.
291
00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,480
We don't know anything.
292
00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,040
So you don't think anyone is
hiding something from us?
293
00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,960
Well, the guys
probably aren't mentioning
294
00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,440
that they wanked off to Sophie...
295
00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,560
Bethany, honestly! It's true!
296
00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,600
JACK CHUCKLES
297
00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,560
But if there IS anything
to really know,
298
00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,120
the only people who would know it
are Emily and Max.
299
00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,760
It's really peaceful out here.
300
00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,720
Never noticed before.
301
00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,400
Ugh.
302
00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,560
I think I might look
to settle in the area.
303
00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,320
Once all this is over.
304
00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,600
Not many people
consider buying property
305
00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,280
at the scene of their own crime.
306
00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,680
I know.
307
00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,240
THEY GRUNT
308
00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,000
Christ! Deer traps are heavy.
309
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,359
I thought you were going
to shoot the deer.
310
00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,520
Truth is, I'm not the best shot.
311
00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,319
Stigmatism.
312
00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:26,680
So, I built my own trap.
313
00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,520
Why are we so worried
about getting the dog back?
314
00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:41,840
Doesn't have a chip in it.
315
00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,000
What if the dog goes
to the neighbour's house?
316
00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,160
What if the neighbour
kindly brings the dog back here?
317
00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,680
What would we say?
318
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,560
HE SNIFFS
319
00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,520
RECORDING:
320
00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,520
Sophie was my best friend.
321
00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,440
We'd known each other
since we were...
322
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,480
..five.
323
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,480
SHE SNIFFLES
324
00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,320
I can't believe
I won't see her at school and...
325
00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,800
Can't ring her.
326
00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,240
Emily, can you think of anyone that
might want to harm Sophie?
327
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,160
I can't, honestly.
328
00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,120
What about Hugo?
329
00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:32,200
Any enemies in his life?
330
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,880
Hugo didn't have enemies.
331
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,240
You couldn't hate him. He was...
332
00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,520
..sweet.
333
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,480
Emily, even really good kids
sometimes keep things
334
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,560
from the adults in their lives.
335
00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,840
And it wouldn't be speaking ill
of Sophie and Hugo
336
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,720
if you were to talk to us
about that kind of thing.
337
00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,840
You wouldn't be in any trouble.
338
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,920
We weren't hiding anything.
339
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,600
The four of us just wanted
to do well in school.
340
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,560
Get into good universities.
341
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,360
There's no big, awful secret.
342
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,440
So is this going to be
in the press again? No. No media.
343
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,440
Because I don't want it
coming up again,
344
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,880
when people google me.
345
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,560
I do "what I eat in a day"s.
346
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,360
Did they not have those on MySpace?
347
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,760
So, Sophie and Hugo were a couple.
348
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,920
Did that ever get awkward
with you and Max?
349
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,200
I already told the police
all of this at the time.
350
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,840
Humour me. Max and I both have
alibis for the night of the murders.
351
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,680
I was at my great-aunt's birthday.
352
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,960
You didn't kill your friends.
I get it.
353
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,320
But just walk me through
what happened.
354
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,400
Max and I argued with them,
a couple of weeks before they died.
355
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,120
Silent treatment,
both ways, you know?
356
00:20:18,120 --> 00:20:20,640
Anyway,
the police know all about it.
357
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,680
We told them everything.
358
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,320
200,000 followers wanting to know
what you eat during the day?
359
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,080
Ah, you saw my TikTok.
360
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,800
Yeah.
361
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,600
I saw your Insta, too.
362
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,760
Haven't been on that in months.
More like years.
363
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,560
Oh, I'm not talking about the
account that's still active today.
364
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,520
I'm talking about the account
that you deleted in 2019.
365
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,840
You see, police, we can retrieve
all that information.
366
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,800
Your posts, comments.
367
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,760
Usually there's a lot of paperwork,
but, believe it or not,
368
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,960
there are some people willing
to do me a favour -
369
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,160
I can be charming. Mm.
370
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,000
You really don't like trans people,
do you?
371
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,960
You see, a few years ago,
no-one would have cared
372
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,800
about that stuff, but nowadays...
373
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,800
I mean, that's, uh...
374
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,840
..that's transphobia, isn't it?
375
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,840
You're over-simplifying
what I said online.
376
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,000
There's context.
377
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,200
And if there's one thing
cancel culture likes
378
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,040
to take into account, it's context.
379
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,640
Who supplied the Ritalin?
380
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,400
Excuse me?
381
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,120
The four of you -
your grades were sky-high.
382
00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:39,160
Plus all your activities -
383
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,960
you wouldn't have time to study, at
least not in the old-fashioned way.
384
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,000
So I'd have to be an idiot not to
assume
385
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,760
that study drugs were involved.
So who supplied them?
386
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,720
Because it's harder to come by
than weed.
387
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,560
SHE SCOFFS
388
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,680
Just answer my question
and I will leave you alone.
389
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,400
It was Adderall.
390
00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,800
Not Ritalin.
391
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,480
Sophie bought it for us.
392
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,920
She had a connection in Cardiff.
She never told me his name.
393
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,560
Why wouldn't she tell you his name?
394
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,200
Because he was like...
395
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,240
..hers.
396
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,560
SOFT SNORING
397
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,040
Ugh.
398
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,440
Oh, fucking hell.
399
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,160
HE SNIFFS
400
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,120
SNIFFING CONTINUES
401
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,320
GRUNTING
402
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,120
HE GRUNTS
403
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,360
You can honestly
wiggle out of these?
404
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:05,680
I wouldn't lie to you, pal.
405
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,480
All right. I admit it.
406
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,880
It's beautiful out here.
407
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,280
It's the mist.
408
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,400
The morning mist has...
409
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,440
What the fuck is this?
410
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,000
Uh...
411
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,440
I think it might be
a security sign?!
412
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,480
Yeah, I know it's a
security sign, you bell-end.
413
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,800
What's it doing outside
of the Anchor-Ferrers' home?
414
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,160
Maybe they have security cameras?
415
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,920
Is it such a big deal?
416
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,880
Feels like it might be, yeah.
417
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,080
But there's no Wi-Fi, so nothing's
being sent to the cloud or anything.
418
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,320
It's probably OK.
I don't feel like it's probably OK.
419
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,840
I feel like it's probably not OK.
420
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,080
Really, totally,
absolutely not fucking OK
421
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,320
that maybe we're being recorded
right now!
422
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,080
Argh!
423
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,800
The dog was the first fuck-up.
424
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,400
There'll not be a second.
This job is too important.
425
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,680
Do you understand?
426
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,840
Now, let's find those cameras.
427
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,400
Destroy them.
428
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,720
But where are they?
429
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,960
Well, I don't know, fanny flaps,
do you?
430
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,560
We could ask the family.
431
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,080
Not sure that we can trust
their answers.
432
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,440
True.
433
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,160
They're probably cross with us.
434
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,160
So what do we do?
435
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,440
CUFFS SCRAPE ON HANDLE
436
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,200
We're going to play a little game.
437
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,680
What kind of game?
438
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,960
I'm going to ask you, your dad
and your mum a question.
439
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,840
If all your answers match...
440
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,000
..then, Mummy gets a pillow.
441
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,400
But if the answers DON'T match...
442
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,040
..if one of you lies...
443
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,240
..then, Mummy will be wheeled in
for surgery straight away.
444
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,920
No!
You said you wouldn't do that yet.
445
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,760
I know, I know. I said surgery
could wait a few days.
446
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,360
But we have sort of established
I can't be trusted, haven't we?
447
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:16,000
So that's the choice.
448
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,440
Pillow or cutting.
449
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,480
All depends on the answers to the...
450
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,400
But what question?!
I don't know anything!
451
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,080
First off, don't interrupt.
452
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,920
Second off,
have a bit of faith in yourself.
453
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,200
You might know the answer.
454
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,200
Young people today are so insecure.
455
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,040
I blame social media.
456
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,520
Where are the cameras?
457
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,240
Where...are...the...cameras?
458
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,000
We don't use them any more.
459
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,160
My parents put them away ages ago.
460
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,320
You still haven't answered
the question, Lucia.
461
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,600
I think they're in a box
in the basement.
462
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,240
There's three of them.
463
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,360
Is that your final answer, Lucia?
464
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,800
Willing to bet Mummy's life on it?
465
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,840
Well?
466
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,160
The cameras are in a box
in the basement.
467
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,960
There's three of them.
468
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,600
They're not in use.
469
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,520
Out of pure curiosity,
470
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,480
why are the cameras not in use?
471
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,560
Never could get the signal working
to send anything up to the cloud.
472
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,360
They were useless, really.
473
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,560
So you took the cameras down,
474
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,000
but left the security sign up
outside the house.
475
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,520
Why?
476
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,360
To ward off intruders.
477
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,320
CAPTORS CHUCKLE
478
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,240
How's that working out for you?
479
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,160
Why are you doing this?
480
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,640
It feels personal,
481
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,520
like you hate us.
But we don't even know you.
482
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,400
HONEY SIGHS
483
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,560
What was the, er, procedure?
484
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,520
A median sternotomy.
485
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,760
And in layman terms, you twat?
486
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,360
A transplant.
487
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,240
So someone else's heart is
keeping you alive?
488
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,320
Yeah? Yeah.
489
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,040
Do you know who it was?
490
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,000
It doesn't work that way.
491
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,280
WHISPERS: Are you curious
what it looks like?
492
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,440
Huh? Are you?
493
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,680
I am.
494
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,600
HE STRAINS
495
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,760
SUTURE SNAPS
496
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,760
Ah!
497
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,640
You see, Oliver...
498
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,760
..you might not know me.
499
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,720
SNAPPING
500
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,720
Ah!
501
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,280
WHISPERS: But I know you.
502
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,480
But I don't know. I don't.
503
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,960
You don't want to disappoint me.
504
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,280
Your husband already did.
505
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,240
Is he all right?!
506
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,840
He's fine. Now...
507
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,320
..cameras?
508
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,160
I have no idea where they are!
509
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,920
I just, you know, I don't deal
with that sort of thing.
510
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,160
Ollie does! Hmm...
511
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,320
All right.
512
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,320
SHE GASPS
513
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,040
Enough is enough.
514
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,200
Count of three, Mrs A.
515
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,240
No!
516
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,000
One... I don't know!
517
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,080
Two... I don't know, you sick fuck!
518
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,880
I DON'T KNOW!
519
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,240
WHISPERS: Worst bed and breakfast
ever.
520
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,160
One-star review coming your way.
521
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,600
The basement! They-they...
522
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,120
They're in the basement! I think
they're in the... They're probably
523
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,240
in a box in the basement somewhere,
and I think there are three of them.
524
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,640
Now, was that so hard? No.
525
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,280
No.
526
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,520
Tell me, Mrs Anchor-Ferrers,
just out of pure curiosity,
527
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,000
why did Oliver take
the cameras down?
528
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,280
Uh...
529
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,800
I think
that they were an eyesore...
530
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,960
..in the garden.
531
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,120
THEY CHUCKLE
532
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,400
You ridiculously shallow snob.
533
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,440
Give her the pillow.
534
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,680
You sure all this is necessary?
535
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,440
You said
we're already behind schedule.
536
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,280
Family's not going to torture
themselves, you know.
537
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,040
At least I don't THINK they would.
538
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,240
Got them.
539
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,480
They were telling the truth!
540
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,320
Now we don't have to worry
about the cameras, yeah?
541
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,960
What's wrong?
542
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,160
The security sign,
at the bottom of the drive.
543
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,880
What about it?
544
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,160
I swear it wasn't there
when we arrived.
545
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,680
But it had to be.
546
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,280
Right?
547
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,840
HE SPEAKS WELSH
548
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,160
Bang on.
549
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,920
Good, good.
550
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,680
WHISTLE BLOWS
551
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,520
The station said you'd be here.
552
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,920
Did they also tell you
it was my day off?
553
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,320
If my missus finds out I'm doing
anything work related
554
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,400
at my son's match,
you're my human shield.
555
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,760
Right? Deal.
556
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,360
So which one's yours, then?
557
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,080
That one, there.
558
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,719
And as you can see, this requires
my undivided attention.
559
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,159
Well, he's cute.
560
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:23,000
Yeah, yeah, he is.
561
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000
Lincoln told me
you were back in town.
562
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,520
And she told me what you were doing.
563
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,920
Listen, I know I've got no business
looking into your cases.
564
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,360
You don't.
565
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,800
Come on, Tomos, cica'r bl, boy!
566
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,480
C'mon, ref!
567
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,679
Gah.
568
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,880
So, you 100% on Minnet Kable?
569
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,400
I am.
570
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,800
You ever look into
any drug connections?
571
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,840
What, with Sophie and Hugo? No.
572
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,520
Why - you don't think they could
have been into drugs, or...?
573
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,000
Of course they were into drugs.
574
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,239
And I'm sure we didn't hear
about it from their friends
575
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,679
cos their parents were in the room.
We assumed as much, Jack.
576
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,520
We're not stupid. I didn't think you
were. You think those friends were
577
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,400
hiding an involvement in drugs that
was so deep
578
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,960
that it resulted in Sophie
and Hugo's gruesome double murder?
579
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,240
What were they,
international kingpins?
580
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:07,080
I'd like to look
into the drug angle.
581
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Well, you have the authority
to do that, Jack.
582
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,320
Though I will say, it is a bit...
583
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,640
Weird. Yeah. Yeah.
I've been told as much.
584
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,920
So which fib would've known the most
about the drug scene back then?
585
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,440
And not just weed, but other stuff.
586
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,280
I know one guy.
587
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,160
He was a Sergeant round
the same time as you, actually.
588
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,040
But I don't think you two knew
each other very well.
589
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,560
I'll put you in touch.
590
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,880
Mm.
591
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,760
No regrets about leaving Wales?
592
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,080
Did moving back to London fix it?
593
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,680
I was rooting for you, you know.
594
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,880
HE SPEAKS WELSH
595
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,160
Sorry you had to come
all the way out here.
596
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,640
I was checking something out.
597
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,280
That's all good.
Congrats on making detective.
598
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,680
Ah, yeah.
599
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,080
Four months now.
600
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,640
Settling into it.
601
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,120
Mostly.
602
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,320
It's good to see you.
603
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,880
I know we never talked much,
but...still.
604
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,240
Yeah. You, too.
605
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:17,840
Listen, I'm looking into an old case
606
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,480
and I was hoping you could help me
with something.
607
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:21,760
Was the case unsolved?
608
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,440
No, it's solved, but...
609
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,720
..I don't like it.
610
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,480
Sometimes you just know - right?
611
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,840
Right, yeah.
612
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,400
Mm.
613
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,520
The victims, they were into
Adderall, which they got in Cardiff.
614
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,080
This was maybe five, six years ago.
615
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,640
Me and you were both skippers then.
616
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,800
But I can't remember ever
coming across any study drugs.
617
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,240
Can you? Mm...
618
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:48,800
I remember lots of drug busts...
619
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,800
..but not that specifically, no.
620
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,160
Sorry.
621
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,920
Really wanted to help you.
That's all right.
622
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,000
The old case I'm looking into
is the Donkey Pitch murders.
623
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,600
Christ.
624
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,800
You think we got the wrong guy
for that?
625
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,360
Maybe you can't remember Adderall
specifically,
626
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,480
but those kids WERE keeping secrets.
627
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,000
Who knows what they were into?
628
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,160
So can you remember any scenes
from back then - I'm talking houses,
629
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,680
raves, whatever - where something
just seemed a little off?
630
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,280
HISSING
631
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,560
Mm.
632
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,880
When we pulled up,
there was maybe...100 of them.
633
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,400
But they scattered.
634
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,800
So I've got no way of knowing
if your Donkey Pitch victims...
635
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,600
Sophie and Hugo. Right.
636
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,640
I've got no way of knowing
if they were here that night.
637
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,880
There was one girl,
she broke her foot, running.
638
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,000
Friends just left her.
639
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,320
We got a statement, but she didn't
give us anything useful.
640
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,920
I'd like her name. The file. Yeah?
641
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,440
Yeah, no problem.
642
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,160
The others thought it was just
a rave that got out of control.
643
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,440
But I don't know, Jack. Have you
ever been in the presence of -
644
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,400
I know this sounds over the top -
but something evil?
645
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,800
Anyway, well organised.
646
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,000
Loads of drugs.
647
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,400
No study drugs, though.
648
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,040
Least, none that we found.
649
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,520
But there could have been?
650
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,880
Mm. For sure.
651
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,840
At the time, I thought...
652
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,240
What?
653
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:39,200
There were a few of these raves
back then.
654
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:44,400
At one of them, we found shackles,
chains, handcuffs.
655
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,600
If we'd found that stuff
in the bedroom,
656
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,560
maybe we wouldn't have thought
much about it,
657
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,120
but they were all over
the main floor,
658
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,400
where the rave was.
659
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,760
Like people were tied up,
and other people were...
660
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,120
Watching.
661
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,560
Exactly. Huh.
662
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,400
I don't know.
663
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:08,040
I started to wonder if
maybe the raves were connected.
664
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,760
Like, maybe there was
some cult stuff going on.
665
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,520
You tell anyone?
666
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,560
Yeah.
667
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,040
Called a detective here.
668
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,280
But...she shot that theory down
pretty quick.
669
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,120
You remember her name?
670
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,160
DI Lincoln.
671
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,560
You know her? Yeah.
672
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,960
Little bit.
673
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,880
There must have been
about 50 snakes.
674
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,880
Proper dangerous, like.
675
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,600
Not going to lie,
scared the shit out of me.
676
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,400
And the rave was in here, too? Yeah.
677
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,360
At first I thought
it was a nest of snakes.
678
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,160
But I mean,
this is a stone box, right?
679
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,600
Snakes don't nest
in a place like this.
680
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,760
Someone must have brought them here.
681
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,480
Who would do something like that?
682
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,520
And how did we never catch them?
683
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,400
Dad?!
684
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,560
Lucia?!
685
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,320
Lucia, are you all right?
686
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,800
I'm scared.
687
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,160
I'm so scared.
688
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,560
HE WEEPS: I can't...
689
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,920
I can't fix this.
690
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,320
I can't fix it!
691
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,840
We're going to die, aren't we?
692
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,240
Oh! Oh, Lucia!
693
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,360
I can't fix this.
694
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,960
Forgive me!
695
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,760
Oh!
696
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,880
HONEY, MOCKINGLY: Oh, Lucia!
I can't fix it.
697
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,600
HONEY CHUCKLES
698
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,600
You...!
699
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,160
CAPTORS CACKLE
700
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,960
I'll fucking kill you!
I'll kill you!
701
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,200
MOCKING: I can't fix it!
702
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,000
Can I ask you something?
703
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,560
In Newport,
you were always on your own.
704
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,520
You didn't join for the pub quizzes.
705
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,040
You weren't messing around
with the lads, ever.
706
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,800
You were just...
707
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,480
..alone.
708
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,880
Right.
709
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,920
But you were OK with it.
710
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,720
I was.
711
00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:01,000
Still am.
712
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,520
How'd you do that?
713
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,800
Sorry?
714
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,080
Like, how do you do this job
on your own?
715
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,720
Because it feels...
716
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,880
..lonely.
717
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:18,320
I feel lonely.
718
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,160
Find a partner. Work with them.
719
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,080
Loads of people do.
720
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,040
You've already tried working
with a partner, haven't you?
721
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,560
They wanted to switch.
722
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,040
So, you know...
723
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,080
I want to fit in with the lads.
724
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,560
I do.
725
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,400
It's just...
726
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,680
..it's not easy for me.
727
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,200
I think I try too hard.
728
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,600
So I thought, maybe...
729
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,880
..I'd just be a bit more like you.
730
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,440
Just...
731
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,040
..not care.
732
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,080
Everyone cares.
733
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,760
Everyone wants...
734
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,760
That's normal.
735
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,920
Just give it time, yeah?
736
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:11,840
OK.
737
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,080
Are you going to ask me
to stay for dinner?
738
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,000
What are you doing here?
Cos I haven't eaten.
739
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,920
How are you inside of my home?
740
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,000
Why did you move back to London?
741
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,520
Personal reasons.
742
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,280
Matthews pulled strings to get you
into Major Crimes.
743
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,200
Matthews is a softie.
744
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,240
So what's the sob story?
I never told him a sob story.
745
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:57,000
I told him I needed to go back
to London.
746
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,840
He didn't ask for details.
747
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,360
Cos he's not a dick.
748
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,160
But I am.
749
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,400
I'm a throbbing, veiny dick.
750
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,440
And I want to hear the sob story.
751
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,120
So what is it?
752
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,440
Sick mum? Sick dad?
753
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,160
Have they carked it yet?
754
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,800
Oh, they have, haven't they?
755
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,840
Someone's in a box.
756
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,000
Tell me who.
757
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,600
It seems you're not
fully understanding
758
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,920
what's happening here, Jack,
so let me spell it out.
759
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,760
You are fucking with my case.
760
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,240
So I'm going to fuck with your head.
761
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,680
And I'm not leaving
until you tell me...
762
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,680
My brother went missing
when he was ten.
763
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,640
And I was eight.
764
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,880
We had an argument in our treehouse.
765
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,800
I started it.
766
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,160
And I shoved him.
767
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,040
Agh!
768
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,240
And he got angry and he stormed off.
769
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,320
I tried to go after him, but I fell.
770
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,880
I was hanging on to the planks
of the treehouse with one hand.
771
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,240
My thumb got stuck and...
772
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,120
Ewan left because of me.
773
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,320
He never came home.
774
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,040
And my thumb never healed.
775
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,280
It was my neighbour who had Ewan.
776
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,280
I knew it.
777
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,760
And he loved that I knew it.
778
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,920
He loved that I knew
what he'd gotten away with.
779
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,480
So for years,
I'd search through his things,
780
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,840
through his rubbish,
looking for evidence of Ewan.
781
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,440
And he'd plant things
for me to find as well.
782
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,000
It was torture.
783
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,760
So, I joined the force.
784
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,520
And on day one, his was the first
name I entered into the system.
785
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,000
He's a paedophile.
786
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,880
He's served time for it.
787
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,600
But I couldn't get him on anything.
788
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,120
I couldn't...
789
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,280
And every item that he ever left me,
it never had a print on it.
790
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,680
Never had a print.
791
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,600
I got so angry.
792
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,520
I got so angry, that...
793
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,440
..I left London...
794
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,520
..cos I thought
that it would be better here.
795
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,600
But, it was worse.
796
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,320
Do you want me
to feel sorry for you?
797
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,560
You're the only person who won't.
798
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,800
PHONE RINGS
799
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,040
Hello, mate.
800
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,800
Sent over the file on the girl
that we interviewed at the rave.
801
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,240
One that broke her foot. All right.
802
00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:35,520
Just...wanted to make sure
you got it.
803
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,640
HONEY: I'll be out in a minute.
804
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:52,720
It's OK.
805
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,520
I mean, the shower will be free
in a minute.
806
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,120
I'm all right.
807
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,280
Are you not planning on showering
this evening?
808
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:12,480
Wasn't going to. Why?
809
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,680
Because you handled intestines.
810
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,120
Civilised people would want to...
811
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,640
HE SNIFFS
812
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,040
Oh, God, the smell...
813
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,320
You really smell something?
814
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,200
Yeah. And it's...and it's
getting worse.
815
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,960
Do you have conflicting feelings
about what we're doing here?
816
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,640
I read this story about this bloke
who kills another bloke,
817
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,360
buries him in the floor,
and gets away with it, right?
818
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,640
Except he hears
the dead guy's heart beating.
819
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,400
Drives him bonkers.
820
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,720
But the thing is, it's not really
beating, it's all in his head.
821
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:02,960
Like the beating of the heart
represents
822
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,840
the original bloke's guilt.
823
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,480
So I was thinking,
824
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,000
maybe there isn't a smell
in the house,
825
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,440
but you THINK that there is,
826
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,240
because you have conflicted feelings
about what we're doing.
827
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,880
It's the fucking intestines.
828
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,880
You left them by the car,
didn't you?
829
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,160
They're rotting and the smell is
wafting up the stairs
830
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,720
from the back of the house.
831
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:30,440
DOOR OPENS
832
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,800
I'm looking for Bethany Collins.
833
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,560
She's through there.
834
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,360
My God, who are you?!
835
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,880
I'm DI Caffery.
836
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,760
Police. You're creepy as fuck
is what you are.
837
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,640
I didn't mean to scare you.
838
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,600
You're literally lurking
in the shadows.
839
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,680
Well, you wouldn't answer
your mobile, so...
840
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,200
I'm on a detox.
841
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,200
What do you want?
842
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,640
I want to talk to you
about the Donkey Pitch murders.
843
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,320
Why? I don't know anything.
844
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,080
Barely even knew Sophie and Hugo.
845
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,760
You may know more than you think.
846
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,680
Whatever. Ask what you need to ask,
I probably don't know the answer.
847
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,960
Well, the whole school was
interviewed by the police.
848
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:01,600
But you had your parents
next to you,
849
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,920
so I'm thinking
some details may have been omitted.
850
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,520
We went to St Armel's.
851
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,240
We understood the importance
of protecting our image.
852
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,120
So what kind of info did you
hold back from the police?
853
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,320
What do you think?
854
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,960
We went to raves high.
855
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,560
Drove cars high.
856
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,280
Had lots of date-rapey sex.
857
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,800
Usually sober.
858
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,520
Standard fare adolescent shit
we used to put up with,
859
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,960
but we weren't going to talk
about that in front of our parents.
860
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,120
Did you ever party
with Sophie and Hugo?
861
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,560
With them?
862
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,680
No.
863
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,480
Around them? Maybe once or twice.
864
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,560
Anyway, we didn't talk
about raves or drugs.
865
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,040
But only because it had nothing
to do with them dying.
866
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,560
Why mention it?
867
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,520
There was this one particular rave.
868
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:54,920
At Cwm y Groes Abbey.
869
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,720
One that got really out of hand.
870
00:51:56,720 --> 00:51:58,320
That.
871
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,560
Yeah. Broke my foot, so I got stuck
talking to the police.
872
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,440
They asked me a bunch of questions
873
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,440
but they already knew
pretty much everything I did.
874
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,640
The raves were a regular thing.
875
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,080
Lots of drugs.
876
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,280
Pot, X, Ket.
877
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,040
Adderall? Probably.
878
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,280
Who set the whole thing up?
879
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,840
Bones.
880
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,200
Bones?
881
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,680
That's what we called him. Why?
882
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,880
I think because we thought
it was scary.
883
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,720
Anyway, I don't know his real name.
884
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,640
But he threw the raves.
885
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,400
They were like events.
886
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,320
Mad things always happened.
887
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,440
Like what?
888
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,920
Slasher movie stuff.
889
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,520
You know, fake blood,
retractable knives.
890
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:40,800
None of it was real.
891
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,680
The whole point was that
he was going to scare us.
892
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,080
But also get us high.
893
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,440
Bones was like this druggie
Freddy Krueger.
894
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,040
We were young.
895
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,440
We thought it was cool.
896
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,240
Were Sophie and Hugo there? Yeah.
897
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,920
They were into it.
Especially Sophie.
898
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:04,840
Look, does Bones
actually mean anything?
899
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,600
Like, is he important?
900
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:11,080
He might be.
901
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,520
You should see this.
902
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,080
What is that?
903
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:43,640
I don't know.
904
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,840
That is buckshot.
905
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,160
You told me you trapped
the fucking thing!
906
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,000
Yeah, well, it might have been
shot by someone first.
907
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,720
That's probably how come
it was easier for me to catch.
908
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,680
So you lied? Not REALLY.
909
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,200
OK. You were economical
with the truth, then?
910
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,640
Does it matter?
911
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,280
I had a lot to set up.
912
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,120
I thought I got it quite good.
913
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,880
It only matters because if
someone else shot the fucking thing
914
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,040
before you got to it, they might
still be wondering where it is.
915
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,880
Oh. Yeah, "oh".
916
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,320
So your story now, just to be clear,
917
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,400
is that someone else shot the deer
918
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,200
and then it voluntarily wandered
into your trap to die?
919
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,400
Right. Right.
920
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:36,960
What did you cut it with?
921
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,920
What do you mean?
It was dead already.
922
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,560
To get the innards out, fuck nuts!
923
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:41,840
Oh. Yeah. Um...
924
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,880
A knife. From where? The kitchen.
925
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,000
From the wooden block? Yeah.
926
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,560
The wooden block
on the kitchen island?
927
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,960
Yeah. From there.
928
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,360
There isn't a wooden block
on the kitchen island.
929
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,680
They have one of those
magnet strips on the wall.
930
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,480
Uh, yeah...
931
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,560
I never cut the deer, all right?
932
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,000
I sort of didn't need to.
933
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,760
Tell me exactly what happened.
934
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,480
Right, so, I'd spoken
to the housekeeper, Beca.
935
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,920
Took care of that,
like I was supposed to.
936
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,160
Then I was about to do
the deer thing,
937
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,760
and I was really nervous
because, well...
938
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,440
I'd never really gotten
the deer trap to work all the way.
939
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,120
It's really hard to build.
940
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,680
But then, I was driving by the
house and I saw something.
941
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,040
It was a deer. And it was dead.
942
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,800
And its insides were
in a bucket already.
943
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,480
So I thought, why not just use that?
944
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,760
You found the deer? At this house?
945
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,360
Yeah. Along the drive.
946
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,440
With the bucket and the intestines
right next to it?
947
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,760
Yeah.
948
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,640
So I put the carcass in the car,
949
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,720
drove it out into the woods
and dumped it.
950
00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:55,920
Then I came back here,
used the intestines in the tree,
951
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,760
just like we planned.
952
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,360
Was a bit of luck, really.
953
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,680
Argh!
954
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,080
Luck?! Argh!
955
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,440
You don't think that maybe
it was a bit strange?
956
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,200
How so? That you were
about to do a job,
957
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,640
a really fucking specific job of
killing and disembowelling a deer,
958
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,000
and someone had already done it
for you?!
959
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,280
Yeah, actually, that IS a bit odd.
960
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,080
No, that one definitely wasn't there
961
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,800
before. What does it mean?
962
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,120
It means someone is fucking with us.
963
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,800
Have the police seen this? No.
964
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,160
I had no reason to show them.
965
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,760
I mean, you caught the guy
who killed Sophie and Hugo, right?
966
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,360
ECHOES: Right? Right? Right?