1 00:00:19,228 --> 00:00:20,395 You gonna get that? 2 00:00:22,439 --> 00:00:25,776 They're selling magazines. Whole block's getting calls. 3 00:00:31,198 --> 00:00:32,866 Did you get my suit? 4 00:00:32,866 --> 00:00:35,244 They said it's ready. I'll pick it up on the way home. 5 00:00:35,244 --> 00:00:36,328 Thanks. 6 00:00:59,768 --> 00:01:03,438 That guy, Stan, called again. I told him you were with a patient. 7 00:01:07,693 --> 00:01:09,236 You got to admire his persistence. 8 00:01:15,617 --> 00:01:19,079 Yeah, I don't know, hon. It's tight. 9 00:01:19,663 --> 00:01:20,998 Does it look tight to you? 10 00:01:22,708 --> 00:01:23,709 You're not looking. 11 00:01:23,709 --> 00:01:25,961 They said they let it out as much as they could. 12 00:01:30,883 --> 00:01:32,509 Those fucking magazines. 13 00:01:35,512 --> 00:01:38,098 You screwing someone behind my back, Candy? 14 00:01:42,853 --> 00:01:44,021 Hello? 15 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:47,441 Hello? 16 00:01:54,865 --> 00:01:55,699 Listen, 17 00:01:55,699 --> 00:01:58,952 I don't want you answering this phone until after the trial is over. 18 00:02:00,037 --> 00:02:01,246 You got me? 19 00:02:06,210 --> 00:02:07,211 Okay. 20 00:05:28,453 --> 00:05:30,539 Sullivan, let's go. I don't have all day. 21 00:06:33,727 --> 00:06:36,355 I told her to get you a clip-on. You wanna get those first? 22 00:06:37,272 --> 00:06:39,274 Your Honor, can I just have a moment with my client? 23 00:06:40,859 --> 00:06:41,902 Come here. 24 00:06:41,902 --> 00:06:43,153 It's fine. 25 00:06:43,153 --> 00:06:44,238 It's not. 26 00:06:48,992 --> 00:06:51,453 Okay. Look. 27 00:06:51,954 --> 00:06:57,376 Relax, because there's not a person in this courtroom whose opinion counts. 28 00:06:59,419 --> 00:07:00,838 Not yet, anyway. 29 00:07:02,589 --> 00:07:04,716 Let's flip it. Easier in the mirror. 30 00:07:06,593 --> 00:07:07,594 There. 31 00:07:08,929 --> 00:07:10,347 Now you look like an upstanding citizen. 32 00:07:16,562 --> 00:07:18,605 - We're all set, Your Honor. - Bring in the jury. 33 00:07:18,605 --> 00:07:19,690 All rise. 34 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:32,578 Good morning. My name is Patricia Richards. 35 00:07:33,287 --> 00:07:35,289 I'm a Manhattan assistant district attorney 36 00:07:35,289 --> 00:07:36,915 representing the State of New York. 37 00:07:36,915 --> 00:07:39,084 And as Judge Posner already told you, 38 00:07:39,918 --> 00:07:43,338 the burden of proof in this courtroom is on me. 39 00:07:44,715 --> 00:07:45,757 I welcome it. 40 00:07:46,967 --> 00:07:53,182 I welcome it because the proof in this case is indisputable. 41 00:07:54,224 --> 00:07:55,350 Undeniable. 42 00:07:57,895 --> 00:08:00,647 There is video. There are witnesses. 43 00:08:01,148 --> 00:08:03,775 The only thing there isn't, is doubt. 44 00:08:06,778 --> 00:08:11,241 On May 18th of this year, the defendant, Daniel Sullivan, 45 00:08:11,241 --> 00:08:16,872 aimed a .38-caliber pistol into a crowd and fired six times. 46 00:08:16,872 --> 00:08:19,791 Three people were wounded. The rest were lucky. 47 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:24,004 Make no mistake, the only reason this isn't a murder trial 48 00:08:24,671 --> 00:08:27,466 is because Daniel Sullivan is a lousy shot. 49 00:08:28,133 --> 00:08:30,344 He belongs behind bars. 50 00:08:31,887 --> 00:08:35,474 But with evidence so provable, so irrefutable, 51 00:08:35,474 --> 00:08:37,308 one wonders, what will the defense do? 52 00:08:38,018 --> 00:08:39,937 They cannot deny the facts, 53 00:08:39,937 --> 00:08:44,650 so they will divert you from them by making unfounded and unproven claims 54 00:08:44,650 --> 00:08:50,614 about a condition they call multiple personality disorder. 55 00:08:52,449 --> 00:08:54,201 Let me be clear, 56 00:08:54,201 --> 00:08:58,330 there is no such thing as multiple personality disorder. 57 00:08:58,330 --> 00:09:02,584 It is a made-up condition from a Sally Field movie, no less. 58 00:09:03,252 --> 00:09:05,587 They might as well claim the defendant is a flying nun. 59 00:09:07,464 --> 00:09:12,719 The defense blames Mr. Sullivan's actions on what they call an alter. 60 00:09:14,972 --> 00:09:16,723 Now, I can admit, I get the appeal. 61 00:09:17,432 --> 00:09:20,477 Don't we all wish we could blame our mistakes on someone else? 62 00:09:20,477 --> 00:09:24,189 Run a red light? Blame an alter. Bounce a check? Blame an alter. 63 00:09:25,107 --> 00:09:26,316 Cheat on a spouse? 64 00:09:27,150 --> 00:09:29,194 Well, let's see how that one flies. 65 00:09:29,194 --> 00:09:31,446 But can you imagine our judicial system 66 00:09:31,446 --> 00:09:35,117 if every time someone committed a crime, 67 00:09:36,535 --> 00:09:39,371 they could simply say, "It wasn't me." 68 00:09:42,624 --> 00:09:44,001 That's what's at stake here. 69 00:09:44,585 --> 00:09:48,714 These arguments from the defense, they're more than desperate. 70 00:09:48,714 --> 00:09:50,174 They're dangerous. 71 00:09:51,675 --> 00:09:56,680 Because they undermine a bedrock principle of both our legal system and our society: 72 00:09:58,140 --> 00:10:00,475 personal responsibility. 73 00:10:00,475 --> 00:10:04,980 We are responsible for our actions. 74 00:10:04,980 --> 00:10:10,235 The defendant is guilty, and that guilt demands punishment. 75 00:10:10,235 --> 00:10:14,364 Otherwise, there can be no justice. 76 00:10:16,533 --> 00:10:17,659 Thank you. 77 00:10:21,747 --> 00:10:23,999 Mr. Camisa, for the defense. 78 00:10:48,190 --> 00:10:52,069 Indisputable. Undeniable. Irrefutable. 79 00:10:56,198 --> 00:10:58,325 You know, makes a guy wonder, "Why am I even here?" 80 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,329 That was some opening from the prosecution. 81 00:11:03,747 --> 00:11:05,457 Bedrock principles. 82 00:11:07,918 --> 00:11:10,003 Well, here's a bedrock principle for you. 83 00:11:12,005 --> 00:11:13,006 He's innocent. 84 00:11:13,590 --> 00:11:16,677 He has the presumption of innocence. It is his right. 85 00:11:17,386 --> 00:11:20,681 Now, this bears repeating because of everything that you just heard. 86 00:11:20,681 --> 00:11:26,353 So, let me begin by saying it clearly and as a simple statement of fact. 87 00:11:28,313 --> 00:11:31,775 Danny Sullivan didn't shoot anyone. 88 00:11:32,609 --> 00:11:36,154 He was there. He admits as much. 89 00:11:38,323 --> 00:11:40,033 But he didn't pull the trigger. 90 00:11:40,033 --> 00:11:43,662 Danny's a good kid, but he's a sick kid. 91 00:11:43,662 --> 00:11:49,126 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, no one is making up a condition. 92 00:11:49,126 --> 00:11:51,545 Now, I get how it sounds. 93 00:11:53,547 --> 00:11:55,257 Multiple personality disorder. 94 00:11:57,384 --> 00:12:01,722 You know, at first, I had a hard time wrapping my head around it myself. 95 00:12:02,598 --> 00:12:05,934 But instead of making flying nun jokes, which is easy, 96 00:12:07,186 --> 00:12:11,481 I kept an open mind, which is hard. 97 00:12:12,774 --> 00:12:14,401 And that's what I'm asking of you. 98 00:12:16,445 --> 00:12:19,489 To keep an open mind. 99 00:12:19,489 --> 00:12:21,408 Listen to the experts. 100 00:12:21,408 --> 00:12:25,204 Listen to the witnesses, because if you do, 101 00:12:25,204 --> 00:12:27,831 you'll arrive at the same indisputable, 102 00:12:27,831 --> 00:12:30,959 undeniable, irrefutable conclusion that I did, 103 00:12:30,959 --> 00:12:36,381 which is that Danny had no control over his illness or his alters. 104 00:12:36,924 --> 00:12:38,634 Yeah, he's got alters. 105 00:12:38,634 --> 00:12:43,430 He's got alters because he was hurt in unimaginable ways that broke him. 106 00:12:44,139 --> 00:12:45,807 It broke his mind into pieces. 107 00:12:48,852 --> 00:12:51,939 And no, they are not some get-out-of-jail-free card. 108 00:12:51,939 --> 00:12:57,027 They are real, and they are not Danny. 109 00:12:57,778 --> 00:13:01,448 To send Danny to prison for a crime that one of his alters committed 110 00:13:01,448 --> 00:13:05,327 would be the same as you going to jail for a crime that I committed. 111 00:13:07,829 --> 00:13:09,498 Now, Danny's illness is rare, 112 00:13:09,498 --> 00:13:13,043 and it is the result of being exposed to sexual abuse as a child. 113 00:13:13,669 --> 00:13:17,548 Frankly, he's lucky to have survived. This illness is how he survived. 114 00:13:18,298 --> 00:13:22,553 I get it. It's weird. It's hard. 115 00:13:25,055 --> 00:13:28,100 But please, keep an open mind. 116 00:13:28,767 --> 00:13:31,228 Now, the prosecution was right about one thing. 117 00:13:31,937 --> 00:13:38,151 This trial is about responsibility, but it's not personal responsibility, 118 00:13:40,070 --> 00:13:42,072 it's societal responsibility. 119 00:13:42,072 --> 00:13:44,408 I mean, you wanna talk about bedrock principles? 120 00:13:44,408 --> 00:13:47,035 How about how we just take care of each other? 121 00:13:47,035 --> 00:13:49,454 How about how we take care of the most hurt 122 00:13:49,454 --> 00:13:51,915 and the most vulnerable among us? 123 00:13:51,915 --> 00:13:54,084 Everybody has failed this kid. 124 00:13:54,084 --> 00:13:59,131 His parents, his teachers, his neighbors, his friends, his community. 125 00:13:59,131 --> 00:14:01,341 All of us have failed him. 126 00:14:01,842 --> 00:14:05,012 So now it is on us to make it right. 127 00:14:05,637 --> 00:14:10,058 Now, I'm not asking you to set Danny free. 128 00:14:11,810 --> 00:14:14,855 I am only asking that you spare him prison 129 00:14:15,814 --> 00:14:19,151 and instead send him to a hospital to get help. 130 00:14:19,151 --> 00:14:23,447 The help that he needs. That is our responsibility. 131 00:14:28,118 --> 00:14:29,119 Thank you. 132 00:14:30,204 --> 00:14:33,999 We'll take a 15-minute recess and then proceed to the State's witnesses. 133 00:14:33,999 --> 00:14:36,043 Officer, escort the jury out please. 134 00:14:42,549 --> 00:14:44,176 You were actually pretty good in there. 135 00:14:44,176 --> 00:14:46,011 Yeah? Pretty good doesn't matter. 136 00:14:46,678 --> 00:14:49,848 Goddamn it! You know, Candy's not returning my calls, 137 00:14:49,848 --> 00:14:52,351 and she ignored her subpoena, by the way, which is a crime. 138 00:14:52,351 --> 00:14:53,852 She's scared. She's guilty. 139 00:14:53,852 --> 00:14:56,605 There's so much shame, she might not even admit it to herself. 140 00:14:56,605 --> 00:14:59,399 In all fairness, do you think I give a shit how she feels? 141 00:15:00,067 --> 00:15:02,027 This case turns on the diagnosis, 142 00:15:02,027 --> 00:15:05,822 and the diagnosis depends on showing the jury that Danny was abused. 143 00:15:08,075 --> 00:15:09,535 I just said it in there. 144 00:15:09,535 --> 00:15:13,038 If we don't get someone to testify to this in open court, we are done. 145 00:15:13,539 --> 00:15:15,666 And I'm handcuffed, 'cause I can't put my client on the stand 146 00:15:15,666 --> 00:15:17,084 'cause of that bullshit he pulled in the hearing. 147 00:15:17,084 --> 00:15:19,336 - That was Jack. That wasn't Danny. - Whoever it was, 148 00:15:19,336 --> 00:15:22,381 he's going to deny the abuse and admit to the crime 149 00:15:23,090 --> 00:15:24,091 which would be bad. 150 00:15:24,091 --> 00:15:25,384 I am well aware. 151 00:15:29,721 --> 00:15:32,432 - You? - You know I can't testify to his abuse. 152 00:15:32,432 --> 00:15:36,895 Technically, Danny never said that he was abused. He never told me that. 153 00:15:36,895 --> 00:15:39,106 - Only Adam? - Only Adam. 154 00:15:41,859 --> 00:15:44,778 I-- It's fucking useless. 155 00:15:47,489 --> 00:15:48,657 What are we gonna do? 156 00:15:49,992 --> 00:15:51,159 You gotta convince her. 157 00:15:51,994 --> 00:15:54,162 But that's not up to me, Stan. 158 00:15:55,163 --> 00:15:57,416 Doesn't a mother have to love her kid, for Christ's sake? 159 00:15:57,416 --> 00:15:58,500 No. 160 00:16:00,043 --> 00:16:01,879 But in this case, that's what we have going for us. 161 00:16:02,546 --> 00:16:03,380 What? 162 00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:04,631 That she does love him. 163 00:16:08,802 --> 00:16:10,596 The State calls Marlin Reid. 164 00:16:29,698 --> 00:16:32,743 How would you describe your relationship with your stepson? 165 00:16:33,911 --> 00:16:37,456 Strained, it pains me to admit. 166 00:16:37,456 --> 00:16:39,082 Look, I'm not perfect. 167 00:16:39,708 --> 00:16:43,420 And maybe sometimes I've been too hard on him. 168 00:16:43,420 --> 00:16:45,923 Maybe other times, not hard enough. 169 00:16:45,923 --> 00:16:50,177 The kids I see up at Osterville, most never had a father, not a real one. 170 00:16:50,177 --> 00:16:54,431 And I wanted to be that for Danny. 171 00:16:55,724 --> 00:16:58,393 Tell me about Osterville. Tough job? 172 00:16:58,393 --> 00:17:02,439 Rewarding job. These kids have had every disadvantage. 173 00:17:02,439 --> 00:17:05,983 You wouldn't believe what they've survived in their homes, on the streets. 174 00:17:05,983 --> 00:17:07,402 Sure, they've made mistakes. 175 00:17:08,028 --> 00:17:12,199 But the thing I love about my job is they're still kids, 176 00:17:12,866 --> 00:17:15,702 and it's not too late for them to find their way back. 177 00:17:17,579 --> 00:17:19,373 You feel that way about Danny? 178 00:17:19,373 --> 00:17:22,792 I'll never give up on Danny, but he's not a kid anymore. 179 00:17:23,335 --> 00:17:27,548 Given your relationship with him, you have any idea why he did what he did? 180 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,724 I honestly don't. 181 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:41,562 Truth is, with Danny, there is no "why." 182 00:17:41,562 --> 00:17:45,232 When he was picking fights at school, or stealing from me, 183 00:17:45,232 --> 00:17:47,985 or dealing drugs or using, the "why"-- 184 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:51,572 Why is just Danny. 185 00:17:53,782 --> 00:17:55,951 Just one more question, Mr. Reid. 186 00:17:55,951 --> 00:17:58,287 At any point after you were shot, 187 00:17:59,413 --> 00:18:01,874 did you report your stepson to the authorities? 188 00:18:03,417 --> 00:18:05,335 - No. - Why not? 189 00:18:06,086 --> 00:18:08,255 Because I wanted to protect him. 190 00:18:10,382 --> 00:18:12,009 Because in spite of everything... 191 00:18:14,636 --> 00:18:17,055 I love him like my own son. 192 00:18:22,895 --> 00:18:24,271 No further questions. 193 00:18:25,939 --> 00:18:28,984 A dramatic first day in court as nine different witnesses 194 00:18:28,984 --> 00:18:31,486 identified Sullivan as the Rockefeller Center shooter, 195 00:18:31,486 --> 00:18:33,155 including his own stepfather, 196 00:18:33,155 --> 00:18:35,657 Juvenile Correctional Counselor Marlin Reid. 197 00:18:35,657 --> 00:18:36,867 Were you the intended target? 198 00:18:36,867 --> 00:18:39,661 I don't know. But the toughest thing you learn in-- 199 00:18:47,461 --> 00:18:48,462 Smells good. 200 00:18:49,546 --> 00:18:50,923 Needs another 20 minutes. 201 00:18:53,967 --> 00:18:55,177 How did he seem? 202 00:18:59,473 --> 00:19:02,351 Thin. I don't know. It's not like we talked or anything. 203 00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:09,191 How'd I look? 204 00:19:16,615 --> 00:19:17,824 - You're kidding, right? - What? 205 00:19:19,451 --> 00:19:20,953 I'm just trying to do the right thing. 206 00:19:20,953 --> 00:19:22,996 The kid shot at me, Candy. 207 00:19:22,996 --> 00:19:24,206 Jesus. 208 00:19:30,629 --> 00:19:31,630 Taking a shower. 209 00:19:47,312 --> 00:19:49,356 Stop calling here. I'm not testifying. 210 00:19:49,356 --> 00:19:50,440 Mom? 211 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,401 Danny. 212 00:20:02,452 --> 00:20:03,996 I meant to come see you. 213 00:20:05,455 --> 00:20:06,456 It's okay. 214 00:20:11,587 --> 00:20:12,713 I'm sorry. 215 00:20:12,713 --> 00:20:14,214 Baby, this is not your fault. 216 00:20:19,469 --> 00:20:20,470 I'm sorry. 217 00:20:45,704 --> 00:20:47,789 It isn't even a real diagnosis. 218 00:20:47,789 --> 00:20:51,376 It's just a fringe theory amplified by a TV movie. 219 00:20:51,376 --> 00:20:53,045 Then what do you make of Danny? 220 00:20:53,045 --> 00:20:55,714 Well, I'll tell you the same thing that I told the jury. 221 00:20:55,714 --> 00:20:58,550 That I believe that Mr. Sullivan is a malingerer. 222 00:20:58,550 --> 00:21:01,303 Acting in bad faith to avoid criminal consequences. 223 00:21:01,303 --> 00:21:04,097 In layman's terms? For the folks at home. 224 00:21:04,097 --> 00:21:06,975 He's faking it to keep himself out of jail. 225 00:21:09,478 --> 00:21:11,230 I tried to get him to be reasonable. 226 00:21:11,230 --> 00:21:12,648 How'd that go? 227 00:21:12,648 --> 00:21:14,274 Not what you would call ideal. 228 00:21:14,274 --> 00:21:17,903 He blindsided me, broke my nose and stole it anyway. 229 00:21:17,903 --> 00:21:20,030 Did you attempt to retrieve your gun? 230 00:21:20,030 --> 00:21:23,158 Yeah, I did. I went to his house. I was pissed. 231 00:21:23,659 --> 00:21:26,745 But we had history. I figured we could work something out. 232 00:21:28,539 --> 00:21:32,084 Got as far as a hello though before he attacked me with a baseball bat. 233 00:21:32,084 --> 00:21:33,627 Then he shot at me. 234 00:21:36,588 --> 00:21:39,508 - No further questions, Your Honor. - Mr. Camisa. 235 00:21:39,508 --> 00:21:45,180 Yeah, just one question. Mr. Ruiz, you've known Danny for years. 236 00:21:46,682 --> 00:21:48,934 In all that time, has he ever seemed normal? 237 00:21:48,934 --> 00:21:50,060 Normal? 238 00:21:51,562 --> 00:21:54,523 That boy's nuts. Craziest son of a bitch I know. 239 00:21:57,025 --> 00:21:58,193 No further questions. 240 00:22:00,571 --> 00:22:01,738 I was scared. 241 00:22:02,948 --> 00:22:04,783 I'd never seen Danny like that before. 242 00:22:07,244 --> 00:22:08,453 Then I heard the shot. 243 00:22:08,453 --> 00:22:10,706 What did you think when you heard that gunshot? 244 00:22:11,456 --> 00:22:12,916 I thought that he killed him. 245 00:22:13,625 --> 00:22:18,255 You believed Danny Sullivan to be capable of murder? 246 00:22:19,214 --> 00:22:20,424 In that moment, yes. 247 00:22:22,092 --> 00:22:23,760 No further questions, Your Honor. 248 00:22:33,395 --> 00:22:34,396 Hi, Annabelle. 249 00:22:37,482 --> 00:22:39,067 Was Danny ever violent with you? 250 00:22:39,067 --> 00:22:40,152 No. 251 00:22:40,152 --> 00:22:42,946 - He ever make you feel unsafe? - No. 252 00:22:42,946 --> 00:22:44,448 Was he mean? Abusive? 253 00:22:44,448 --> 00:22:46,116 No. Never. 254 00:22:46,658 --> 00:22:49,995 Then what was he like, the Danny you knew? Your friend. 255 00:22:50,746 --> 00:22:51,788 He was sweet. 256 00:22:53,207 --> 00:22:55,626 He was quiet. Shy. 257 00:22:56,585 --> 00:22:57,586 Mostly. 258 00:22:58,212 --> 00:23:01,673 - Mostly? - He was, yeah, sometimes not so shy. 259 00:23:04,009 --> 00:23:05,552 He was a little all over the place. 260 00:23:05,552 --> 00:23:08,222 I'd like to refer the witness to defense exhibit four. 261 00:23:08,222 --> 00:23:09,306 Go ahead. 262 00:23:16,438 --> 00:23:17,606 You recognize this drawing? 263 00:23:19,191 --> 00:23:20,317 Yeah, Danny drew it. 264 00:23:21,235 --> 00:23:22,236 It's you? 265 00:23:22,945 --> 00:23:24,029 Yep. 266 00:23:24,029 --> 00:23:25,113 It's good. 267 00:23:25,739 --> 00:23:27,741 Yeah, it's good. 268 00:23:27,741 --> 00:23:29,743 Danny really cared about you, didn't he? 269 00:23:33,622 --> 00:23:34,748 I cared about him too. 270 00:23:35,415 --> 00:23:37,084 Earlier in your testimony-- 271 00:23:37,793 --> 00:23:40,087 now I'm referring to the night with Mr. Ruiz-- 272 00:23:40,087 --> 00:23:43,924 you said, "I'd never seen Danny like that." 273 00:23:43,924 --> 00:23:48,846 How do you reconcile that night, that Danny, with the boy that you knew? 274 00:23:48,846 --> 00:23:53,642 The sweet and quiet, never violent, shy but sometimes not. 275 00:23:53,642 --> 00:23:55,227 The boy who drew this picture. 276 00:24:01,233 --> 00:24:03,360 Doesn't seem like the same person, does it? 277 00:24:05,070 --> 00:24:06,071 No. 278 00:24:09,032 --> 00:24:10,492 No further questions, Your Honor. 279 00:24:11,702 --> 00:24:14,621 - State requests a redirect. - Proceed. 280 00:24:16,498 --> 00:24:19,042 To the best of your knowledge, in the time you knew him, 281 00:24:19,042 --> 00:24:21,336 was the encounter with Mr. Ruiz 282 00:24:21,336 --> 00:24:24,715 the only occasion that Danny Sullivan was ever violent? 283 00:24:24,715 --> 00:24:26,383 Objection, irrelevant. 284 00:24:26,383 --> 00:24:29,678 The question speaks to the defendant's history of violence. 285 00:24:29,678 --> 00:24:30,762 Overruled. 286 00:24:30,762 --> 00:24:34,433 Was the encounter with Mr. Ruiz the only occasion 287 00:24:35,392 --> 00:24:37,644 that Danny Sullivan was ever violent? 288 00:24:38,687 --> 00:24:39,521 No. 289 00:24:40,731 --> 00:24:43,233 Back in high school, I had this boyfriend, Bill. 290 00:24:43,817 --> 00:24:44,943 Danny got jealous. 291 00:24:45,444 --> 00:24:48,655 He beat him pretty bad. He put him in the hospital. 292 00:24:49,531 --> 00:24:50,532 Another kid too. 293 00:24:51,366 --> 00:24:54,161 At the time, I told myself it was this freak thing. 294 00:24:55,996 --> 00:24:57,122 Maybe Bill deserved it. 295 00:24:58,207 --> 00:24:59,458 Now I'm not so sure. 296 00:25:02,211 --> 00:25:03,420 No further questions. 297 00:25:38,288 --> 00:25:41,416 They're off to stalk your son at the side exit. 298 00:25:41,416 --> 00:25:45,295 Apparently, perp walks sell papers. Even the same perp walk twice a day. 299 00:25:46,129 --> 00:25:48,006 Do you wanna see him? I can walk you around. 300 00:25:49,174 --> 00:25:51,301 No, not like that. 301 00:25:53,762 --> 00:25:54,763 I'm glad you came. 302 00:25:57,015 --> 00:25:58,475 There's a shitty bar around the corner. 303 00:25:58,475 --> 00:26:00,978 It's mostly lawyers, but at this hour it's not that bad. 304 00:26:04,273 --> 00:26:06,275 I don't know what you people want from me. 305 00:26:09,570 --> 00:26:11,780 Please tell me that you convinced her to testify. 306 00:26:11,780 --> 00:26:14,950 She came, didn't she? That's progress. 307 00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:16,785 Progress is for people with time. 308 00:26:17,369 --> 00:26:18,871 They're painting a picture of a kid 309 00:26:18,871 --> 00:26:20,873 who goes after his perfectly nice stepfather, 310 00:26:20,873 --> 00:26:23,417 shoots up a bunch of innocent people in the process, 311 00:26:23,417 --> 00:26:26,253 and now he's pretending that he hears voices so he can get out of jail. 312 00:26:26,253 --> 00:26:27,921 It's pretty compelling stuff if you ask me. 313 00:26:27,921 --> 00:26:29,381 Whose side are you on, Stan? 314 00:26:30,007 --> 00:26:31,800 Right now, the losing one. 315 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,010 Is it too late to switch? 316 00:26:33,969 --> 00:26:39,391 So she sees it today, her kid on trial, and she goes back home to him. 317 00:26:39,391 --> 00:26:40,475 Stays with him. 318 00:26:41,143 --> 00:26:42,811 God, how does that even work? 319 00:26:42,811 --> 00:26:45,355 Maybe we're just not built to survive alone. 320 00:26:45,355 --> 00:26:47,900 I mean, did you know that our brain has these chemical receptors 321 00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:50,360 that light up when we make human connections? 322 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:52,821 - Oh, yeah? - It literally turns on 323 00:26:52,821 --> 00:26:54,865 to make us feel like we're safe. 324 00:26:56,241 --> 00:26:59,995 Only, sometimes other people aren't safe. 325 00:26:59,995 --> 00:27:02,414 Yeah, amen to that. 326 00:27:03,665 --> 00:27:06,251 I feel like you're gonna make an ex-wife joke. 327 00:27:07,252 --> 00:27:08,670 I was considering it. 328 00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:10,047 Go on anyway. 329 00:27:10,547 --> 00:27:13,509 There's a whole world of ways that people hurt each other. 330 00:27:13,509 --> 00:27:15,385 Yeah, you don't know the half of it. 331 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,936 Too much pain, in rare cases like Danny's, the mind shatters. 332 00:27:23,936 --> 00:27:25,604 But most people, they-- 333 00:27:25,604 --> 00:27:27,981 they find conventional ways of avoiding the pain, 334 00:27:27,981 --> 00:27:32,945 like booze and drugs, sex, that light up those receptors. 335 00:27:33,529 --> 00:27:36,532 - Those things work. - And also being with the wrong person, 336 00:27:36,532 --> 00:27:39,451 because at least the pain is familiar to them. 337 00:27:41,912 --> 00:27:47,376 If you ask me, I think that if a relationship can break you, 338 00:27:47,376 --> 00:27:51,380 then sometimes a relationship can also heal you. 339 00:27:51,964 --> 00:27:53,715 Please tell me you're not saying love is the answer. 340 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,552 I actually am. 341 00:27:59,513 --> 00:28:02,516 It's like that arrow story that Jack told Danny. 342 00:28:02,516 --> 00:28:05,978 Fear of pain is worse than the pain ever was. 343 00:28:07,145 --> 00:28:08,939 Jack? You mean make-believe Jack? 344 00:28:09,565 --> 00:28:10,566 Yeah. 345 00:28:15,028 --> 00:28:16,446 We've all been hurt. 346 00:28:16,446 --> 00:28:17,739 Some more than others. 347 00:28:20,492 --> 00:28:24,162 And we can have a tendency to stay in relationships that are bad. 348 00:28:24,162 --> 00:28:28,750 Those receptors are firing, telling us not to risk losing what we have. 349 00:28:31,753 --> 00:28:32,588 Come here. 350 00:28:32,588 --> 00:28:37,050 Even if it's to find something better for us, healthier for us. 351 00:28:37,634 --> 00:28:41,555 We stay with the hurt we know rather than risk being hurt again. 352 00:28:42,639 --> 00:28:44,141 But we have a choice. 353 00:28:45,976 --> 00:28:47,728 The truth is, we always have. 354 00:28:48,312 --> 00:28:50,939 We just have to remember to try to keep making it. 355 00:28:52,316 --> 00:28:55,194 To remember that other people can hurt us, 356 00:28:56,236 --> 00:28:57,779 but they can also help us. 357 00:28:58,780 --> 00:29:02,451 That to reach out, to let someone reach back, 358 00:29:03,660 --> 00:29:05,120 is a way out of pain. 359 00:29:08,624 --> 00:29:09,958 That doesn't mean it's easy. 360 00:29:12,211 --> 00:29:13,295 {\an8}It's hard. 361 00:29:15,172 --> 00:29:16,173 Terrifying. 362 00:29:19,885 --> 00:29:22,137 We need to be brave like Danny was brave, 363 00:29:23,055 --> 00:29:24,348 and ask for help. 364 00:29:25,974 --> 00:29:27,309 We don't have to be alone. 365 00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:30,812 Lights out. 366 00:29:40,864 --> 00:29:43,283 We met at Danceteria, this club on 37th. 367 00:29:43,784 --> 00:29:45,702 Tell me about her. What was she like? 368 00:29:46,954 --> 00:29:50,165 Ariana was something else. 369 00:29:50,999 --> 00:29:53,710 The way she moved. The way she smiled. 370 00:29:54,628 --> 00:29:55,879 Iridescent. 371 00:29:55,879 --> 00:29:57,422 Everyone wanted to be with her. 372 00:29:57,422 --> 00:29:58,966 The boys, the girls. 373 00:29:58,966 --> 00:30:01,218 And she knew it. She worked it. 374 00:30:01,218 --> 00:30:05,305 Mr. Williams, do you see Ariana in this courtroom? 375 00:30:09,268 --> 00:30:10,435 No. 376 00:30:10,435 --> 00:30:11,520 No? 377 00:30:12,229 --> 00:30:16,567 The thing is, he's not her. Not anymore. 378 00:30:17,067 --> 00:30:18,151 How can you tell? 379 00:30:18,652 --> 00:30:20,112 Everything about him is different. 380 00:30:20,112 --> 00:30:23,907 Like the way he sits, curled in so small. 381 00:30:23,907 --> 00:30:28,078 And his eyes, which give up everything. 382 00:30:29,121 --> 00:30:32,124 Ariana had a resting poker face. 383 00:30:32,124 --> 00:30:34,251 Girl was a brick wall. 384 00:30:35,043 --> 00:30:37,254 Not to mention, Danny's straight. 385 00:30:38,005 --> 00:30:40,048 So you know Danny? You've met Danny? 386 00:30:40,048 --> 00:30:42,301 I met him at Rikers a few weeks ago. 387 00:30:42,301 --> 00:30:45,596 I saw the story in the paper, and I went over there. 388 00:30:45,596 --> 00:30:48,098 I was just-- I was looking to understand, I guess. 389 00:30:48,098 --> 00:30:50,017 And what'd you find at Rikers? 390 00:30:53,770 --> 00:30:54,771 A stranger. 391 00:31:00,235 --> 00:31:03,238 Mr. Williams, did you have a sexual relationship with the defendant? 392 00:31:04,198 --> 00:31:05,741 I had a relationship with Ariana. 393 00:31:05,741 --> 00:31:07,659 I didn't ask you what the defendant called himself. 394 00:31:07,659 --> 00:31:10,579 - I asked if you had a sexual-- - Objection. Asked and answered. 395 00:31:10,579 --> 00:31:11,830 Overruled. 396 00:31:12,414 --> 00:31:15,626 I could put the question to you in more graphic terms, if you'd like. 397 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,421 Yes, we did. 398 00:31:19,421 --> 00:31:21,673 - Where? - Objection, irrelevant. 399 00:31:21,673 --> 00:31:24,384 The question speaks to the true nature of their relationship. 400 00:31:25,052 --> 00:31:26,345 Overruled. 401 00:31:26,345 --> 00:31:27,513 Where? 402 00:31:28,972 --> 00:31:29,973 The men's room. 403 00:31:30,933 --> 00:31:32,226 The men's room. 404 00:31:33,644 --> 00:31:35,479 How romantic. 405 00:31:35,479 --> 00:31:37,439 Couldn't anyone have just walked in? 406 00:31:38,065 --> 00:31:40,317 Were your encounters in full public view? 407 00:31:40,317 --> 00:31:41,777 We used a stall. 408 00:31:41,777 --> 00:31:45,239 Mr. Williams, you never shared a meal with the defendant. 409 00:31:45,239 --> 00:31:47,449 - Never saw his home, did you? - No. 410 00:31:47,449 --> 00:31:49,159 - Ever meet his friends? - No. 411 00:31:49,159 --> 00:31:50,869 - Family? - No. 412 00:31:50,869 --> 00:31:54,456 Your most intimate moments were in a bathroom stall. 413 00:31:56,208 --> 00:31:58,544 How well could you possibly have known this man? 414 00:31:58,544 --> 00:32:00,212 There was no "this man." 415 00:32:00,212 --> 00:32:03,298 There was only Ariana, and I knew her. 416 00:32:03,298 --> 00:32:07,636 These clubs you frequent, are there ever closeted gay men there? 417 00:32:08,136 --> 00:32:09,972 - Men with something to hide. - Sure. 418 00:32:09,972 --> 00:32:14,935 So how could you know that Ariana wasn't just an alias? 419 00:32:14,935 --> 00:32:16,728 A cover. A lie. 420 00:32:29,992 --> 00:32:30,993 It's on me. 421 00:32:30,993 --> 00:32:32,202 Mr. Camisa-- 422 00:32:32,202 --> 00:32:34,705 Stan. And please, I got a tab here. Tell her, Sam. 423 00:32:35,372 --> 00:32:36,498 He does owe me money. 424 00:32:36,999 --> 00:32:39,084 I come here a lot. It's nothing. Please. 425 00:32:43,630 --> 00:32:45,007 We're gonna lose, Candy. 426 00:32:45,007 --> 00:32:48,635 Multiple personality disorder is only ever caused by one thing, 427 00:32:49,428 --> 00:32:51,638 and we can't prove that it ever happened. 428 00:32:51,638 --> 00:32:54,308 And worse, Danny denies it ever happened. 429 00:32:54,308 --> 00:32:56,393 It's like arguing a guy is shell-shocked 430 00:32:56,393 --> 00:32:58,645 and he swears that he's never even seen a war. 431 00:32:58,645 --> 00:33:00,814 Our entire defense is built around this. 432 00:33:00,814 --> 00:33:02,608 Well, then you've got the wrong defense. 433 00:33:02,608 --> 00:33:04,860 - Candy-- - And you should have seen it coming. 434 00:33:04,860 --> 00:33:07,196 Well, why do you think I've been calling you, repeatedly? 435 00:33:07,196 --> 00:33:09,865 Calling me is not an actual legal strategy. 436 00:33:10,365 --> 00:33:12,201 I also subpoenaed you, which is. 437 00:33:12,701 --> 00:33:13,827 And you ignored it. 438 00:33:14,995 --> 00:33:17,164 I can ask the judge to find you in contempt, you know. 439 00:33:20,292 --> 00:33:24,254 Look, please take the stand. 440 00:33:24,254 --> 00:33:25,964 Just tell 'em what happened to Danny. 441 00:33:27,382 --> 00:33:31,136 Are you even aware of the accusation that you're making right now? 442 00:33:31,136 --> 00:33:34,515 - Well, your husband's a sick man, Can-- - Not against my husband, against me. 443 00:33:37,434 --> 00:33:39,645 Find me in fucking contempt. 444 00:33:49,112 --> 00:33:54,910 The mind is an extraordinary thing, capable of extraordinary transformations. 445 00:33:54,910 --> 00:33:58,497 Not just voices, but bodies. Skills. 446 00:33:58,497 --> 00:34:00,707 Playing an instrument, mastering chess, 447 00:34:00,707 --> 00:34:03,210 speaking a foreign language, lighting up a room. 448 00:34:03,210 --> 00:34:05,504 These aren't things that people can just fake. 449 00:34:05,504 --> 00:34:08,090 And these are people who come from every walk of life. 450 00:34:08,090 --> 00:34:10,050 Every race. Every age. 451 00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:11,635 They're people who have nothing to gain 452 00:34:11,635 --> 00:34:14,388 from a diagnosis that carries social stigma. 453 00:34:14,388 --> 00:34:15,973 MPD is real. 454 00:34:15,973 --> 00:34:21,103 And patients with MPD have suffered in ways that most of us cannot comprehend. 455 00:34:22,521 --> 00:34:27,317 - They deserve empathy and compassion. - And how have they suffered? 456 00:34:27,317 --> 00:34:30,152 Can't anyone just claim to have other personalities inside them? 457 00:34:30,152 --> 00:34:31,530 The literature is clear. 458 00:34:31,530 --> 00:34:33,657 For the diagnosis to apply, 459 00:34:33,657 --> 00:34:37,661 the patients must have experienced severe childhood trauma, 460 00:34:38,370 --> 00:34:39,454 usually sexual. 461 00:34:40,038 --> 00:34:42,248 At a point in their lives when they are the most vulnerable-- 462 00:34:42,248 --> 00:34:43,667 the most in need of protection-- 463 00:34:43,667 --> 00:34:47,462 they are betrayed, usually by somebody that they trusted. 464 00:34:47,963 --> 00:34:51,592 A child's mind isn't equipped to handle this. 465 00:34:51,592 --> 00:34:54,178 It can't manage all the contradictions. 466 00:34:55,344 --> 00:34:59,266 So the psyche fractures and that's the first alter. 467 00:34:59,766 --> 00:35:00,934 The child goes away. 468 00:35:01,518 --> 00:35:02,978 Somebody new comes in. 469 00:35:02,978 --> 00:35:07,816 Someone better equipped to navigate a terrifying world. 470 00:35:09,484 --> 00:35:10,944 And that's how it begins. 471 00:35:11,570 --> 00:35:16,200 It's a defense mechanism against horrific, unfathomable pain. 472 00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:19,161 Can you tell me about Danny? 473 00:35:21,663 --> 00:35:24,291 I first met Danny at the police station after his arrest. 474 00:35:24,291 --> 00:35:25,834 Only it wasn't Danny, it was Jonny. 475 00:35:25,834 --> 00:35:27,127 And who's Jonny? 476 00:35:27,127 --> 00:35:30,881 Jonny is one of Danny's alters. He's a literal escape artist. 477 00:35:31,548 --> 00:35:34,551 So when the shackles came out, so did Jonny. 478 00:35:36,803 --> 00:35:38,680 So are these descriptions 479 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,685 of Danny's so-called personalities facts or speculations? 480 00:35:43,685 --> 00:35:45,479 They're my clinical judgments. 481 00:35:45,479 --> 00:35:48,482 Did Danny ever tell you he thought he had multiple personalities? 482 00:35:48,482 --> 00:35:49,399 No, but it doesn't-- 483 00:35:49,399 --> 00:35:52,861 In fact, wasn't it you who first introduced the idea to him? 484 00:35:52,861 --> 00:35:55,906 Yes, because his symptoms supported the diagnosis. 485 00:35:55,906 --> 00:35:57,074 So you say. 486 00:35:57,658 --> 00:35:59,451 But then you have a lot riding on this, don't you? 487 00:35:59,451 --> 00:36:02,246 - I'm not sure what you mean. - Who pays for your research? 488 00:36:02,246 --> 00:36:03,455 How do you make a living? 489 00:36:04,122 --> 00:36:06,750 Most of my work is funded through grants. 490 00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:08,877 - Grants like the Reiling Grant? - Yes. 491 00:36:08,877 --> 00:36:10,921 - Which expired last year. - Yes. 492 00:36:10,921 --> 00:36:14,508 And is it true the university just turned down a request from you 493 00:36:14,508 --> 00:36:15,801 for additional funding? 494 00:36:15,801 --> 00:36:19,429 There's only so much to go around, but I'm going to reapply in the spring. 495 00:36:19,429 --> 00:36:21,640 - You have tenure? - I'm up for it next year. 496 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,600 So, with your funding drying up, 497 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,979 your major grant expiring and with tenure on the line, 498 00:36:26,979 --> 00:36:30,440 would it be fair to say that this is a make-or-break moment in your career? 499 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,526 - Objection. - Withdraw the question. 500 00:36:32,526 --> 00:36:36,613 Would it be fair to say that a high-profile case like this one 501 00:36:36,613 --> 00:36:38,907 could be a real opportunity for you? 502 00:36:39,908 --> 00:36:41,577 Chance for you to make a name for yourself. 503 00:36:42,536 --> 00:36:45,247 - I don't see my patients as opportunities. - Don't you? 504 00:36:45,247 --> 00:36:47,916 I mean, why else did you walk into that police station? 505 00:36:48,417 --> 00:36:51,837 Was it because you were having a sexual relationship with the detective 506 00:36:51,837 --> 00:36:53,630 - who leaked Danny's case to you? - Objection. 507 00:36:53,630 --> 00:36:55,674 Sustained. Take care, Counselor. 508 00:36:56,258 --> 00:36:57,426 Withdrawn. 509 00:36:58,302 --> 00:37:01,555 Why did you follow the defendant to Rikers? 510 00:37:01,555 --> 00:37:06,393 There's a term for lawyers who solicit business like that. 511 00:37:06,393 --> 00:37:07,936 - Ambulance chasers. - Objection. 512 00:37:07,936 --> 00:37:10,439 - Sustained. - Let me put it another way. 513 00:37:11,023 --> 00:37:15,194 When you walked into that police station, what were you hoping to find? 514 00:37:15,194 --> 00:37:16,904 I wasn't hoping to find anything. 515 00:37:16,904 --> 00:37:20,449 See, I'm sorry, but I find that hard to believe. 516 00:37:21,408 --> 00:37:25,579 You get a tip about a kid. You drop everything. 517 00:37:25,579 --> 00:37:27,664 You run halfway across Manhattan. 518 00:37:27,664 --> 00:37:30,459 - What did you take? The bus? The train? - I took the train. 519 00:37:30,459 --> 00:37:33,003 You mean to tell me you're not sitting on that train, 520 00:37:33,003 --> 00:37:35,506 hoping that this is the one? 521 00:37:35,506 --> 00:37:37,174 The one who makes you famous. 522 00:37:37,174 --> 00:37:39,343 The one who puts you on the national stage. 523 00:37:39,343 --> 00:37:40,719 - Absolutely not. - Objection. 524 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,137 What do you know, it worked. 525 00:37:42,137 --> 00:37:44,431 Your Honor, the witness is not on trial. 526 00:37:44,431 --> 00:37:46,934 Sustained. Move on, Counselor. 527 00:37:46,934 --> 00:37:49,770 Okay, Doctor. One last question. 528 00:37:49,770 --> 00:37:51,396 The defense claims-- 529 00:37:51,396 --> 00:37:57,903 You claim that the cause of Danny's so-called multiple personalities 530 00:37:59,112 --> 00:38:00,864 was sexual abuse in childhood. 531 00:38:02,616 --> 00:38:05,160 In all of your sessions with the defendant, 532 00:38:06,537 --> 00:38:09,081 has he ever told you he was sexually abused? 533 00:38:13,001 --> 00:38:16,046 Dr. Goodwin, has anyone ever told you 534 00:38:16,046 --> 00:38:20,926 or had the defendant ever claimed he was sexually abused? 535 00:38:22,678 --> 00:38:24,805 It's a yes or no question. 536 00:38:28,976 --> 00:38:30,060 Dr. Goodwin? 537 00:38:36,108 --> 00:38:36,942 No. 538 00:38:40,904 --> 00:38:42,197 No further questions, Your Honor. 539 00:38:43,407 --> 00:38:45,284 Dr. Goodwin? 540 00:38:48,287 --> 00:38:49,997 What do you have to say for your client? 541 00:38:49,997 --> 00:38:52,374 Dr. Goodwin, how do you defend yourself? 542 00:39:22,362 --> 00:39:23,780 So, you were just using him? 543 00:39:26,283 --> 00:39:28,577 Candy, that could not be further from the truth. 544 00:39:28,577 --> 00:39:30,329 And Camisa? He's out of his depth. 545 00:39:30,329 --> 00:39:32,456 - Stan's a good lawyer. - He's Legal Aid. 546 00:39:32,456 --> 00:39:34,249 He's working his ass off. 547 00:39:34,249 --> 00:39:35,459 He's falling apart. 548 00:39:35,459 --> 00:39:36,668 Who isn't? 549 00:39:38,128 --> 00:39:40,255 - Why are you here? - 'Cause I know how this ends. 550 00:39:40,255 --> 00:39:42,007 I know who you'll all blame. 551 00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:45,761 But that's bullshit. You're the ones who let him down. 552 00:39:49,348 --> 00:39:50,432 Candy, I-- 553 00:39:51,308 --> 00:39:53,852 I gave your son everything that I have. 554 00:39:55,521 --> 00:39:58,607 My heart is broken. But my conscience is clear. 555 00:39:58,607 --> 00:39:59,525 So is mine. 556 00:39:59,525 --> 00:40:01,985 If that were true, you wouldn't have followed me in here. 557 00:40:03,362 --> 00:40:04,571 And you're wrong. 558 00:40:04,571 --> 00:40:07,908 I would never have blamed you. Never. 559 00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:10,661 Bullshit. 560 00:40:20,712 --> 00:40:25,050 I had this patient, Anna, when I was a first-year resident. 561 00:40:27,636 --> 00:40:31,765 And Anna had been raped six times, by six different men, 562 00:40:31,765 --> 00:40:33,267 over the course of eight years. 563 00:40:33,267 --> 00:40:35,269 And, Candy, she was 19. 564 00:40:35,894 --> 00:40:37,145 How do you explain that? 565 00:40:39,398 --> 00:40:42,693 There's a phenomenon, an awful phenomenon. 566 00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:45,779 Victims of abuse survive. 567 00:40:45,779 --> 00:40:50,450 They get away, only to be abused again by somebody else. 568 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:58,083 And I think, hearing these stories, "My God, these poor people. 569 00:40:59,084 --> 00:41:01,461 The unluckiest human beings on the planet." 570 00:41:02,796 --> 00:41:04,798 Only it's not luck. 571 00:41:04,798 --> 00:41:07,509 It is a fucked up twist of nature. 572 00:41:09,636 --> 00:41:14,641 Because as children, they are forced to relate sexually. 573 00:41:16,393 --> 00:41:18,937 They are trained to be abused. 574 00:41:19,646 --> 00:41:24,109 Predators are very adept at finding their prey. 575 00:41:24,902 --> 00:41:28,071 They're picking up on cues that nobody else can see. 576 00:41:28,655 --> 00:41:32,701 These cues can be chemical, psychological, behavioral, nonverbal. 577 00:41:34,953 --> 00:41:36,997 To the predator, neon signs. 578 00:41:37,497 --> 00:41:40,626 And here's the thing that I cannot emphasize enough. 579 00:41:43,212 --> 00:41:47,216 None of it is under the victim's control. 580 00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:52,888 None of it is the victim's fault. 581 00:41:56,683 --> 00:41:58,852 You and Danny were prey, 582 00:41:59,811 --> 00:42:02,689 and I suspect Marlin isn't the first predator in your life. 583 00:42:04,274 --> 00:42:05,400 And it's not your fault. 584 00:42:07,653 --> 00:42:09,696 And my heart breaks for you, it does. 585 00:42:11,031 --> 00:42:13,242 Because you did nothing to deserve it. 586 00:42:16,161 --> 00:42:20,040 So, no, I wouldn't blame you. 587 00:42:22,292 --> 00:42:23,293 For anything. 588 00:42:25,838 --> 00:42:30,634 But my hope would be that if you take the stand, 589 00:42:31,301 --> 00:42:37,057 you might finally be able to stop blaming yourself. 590 00:42:45,732 --> 00:42:46,733 Marlin. 591 00:42:55,409 --> 00:42:57,327 Do you understand what you're asking? 592 00:42:59,454 --> 00:43:00,914 Guilt or grief... 593 00:43:03,542 --> 00:43:05,127 which one can you bear? 594 00:43:16,471 --> 00:43:19,474 You make too much bacon. It's not good for me. 595 00:43:21,226 --> 00:43:23,312 I only make it because you like it. 596 00:43:23,312 --> 00:43:25,689 Yeah, well, I like living too. So, cut back. 597 00:43:25,689 --> 00:43:28,317 Let's face it, I could lose a few. 598 00:43:29,651 --> 00:43:31,278 We've got to look out for each other. 599 00:43:32,821 --> 00:43:33,822 See ya. 600 00:45:02,619 --> 00:45:03,620 Hi, honey. 601 00:45:05,664 --> 00:45:08,125 Thought I'd come by. See you up there. 602 00:45:12,296 --> 00:45:14,631 I'm not a stupid man, Candy. I know why you're here. 603 00:45:14,631 --> 00:45:16,133 I know what you're gonna say. 604 00:45:16,133 --> 00:45:18,427 I'm not even going to tell you not to say it. 605 00:45:18,427 --> 00:45:19,887 You do what you want. 606 00:45:20,596 --> 00:45:24,391 But I wouldn't be doing my duty as your husband if I didn't tell you 607 00:45:24,391 --> 00:45:26,435 that the words you say-- 608 00:45:26,435 --> 00:45:32,441 that this terrible lie will change the world you live in overnight. 609 00:45:33,650 --> 00:45:37,487 I mean, people staring at the A&P and whispers all over town. 610 00:45:37,487 --> 00:45:39,573 "What kind of mother would allow such a thing?" 611 00:45:40,282 --> 00:45:42,284 Well, you'll lose your husband, of course. 612 00:45:42,284 --> 00:45:45,579 You'll also lose your job and your home, eventually. 613 00:45:46,580 --> 00:45:49,791 Worst of all, you will lose the illusion of who you are. 614 00:45:50,626 --> 00:45:55,214 And without it, all anyone will see is what you allowed and what you admitted. 615 00:45:57,341 --> 00:45:58,759 That's all Danny will see. 616 00:46:00,344 --> 00:46:01,637 So, you'll lose him too. 617 00:46:09,061 --> 00:46:10,854 What was Danny like as a kid? 618 00:46:10,854 --> 00:46:14,399 He was a good boy. Sweet boy. 619 00:46:15,192 --> 00:46:17,819 - But he was always different. - Different how? 620 00:46:19,404 --> 00:46:25,410 Too sensitive, I guess. Tender. 621 00:46:29,706 --> 00:46:34,962 The world's a tough place, and we were all each other had. 622 00:46:37,631 --> 00:46:41,426 Ms. Reid, I'm gonna have to ask you some difficult questions now. 623 00:46:41,426 --> 00:46:43,512 You can take your time answering them, okay? 624 00:46:49,726 --> 00:46:53,772 Do you believe your son, Danny, was ever sexually abused? 625 00:46:53,772 --> 00:46:54,857 Objection. 626 00:46:54,857 --> 00:46:59,945 Unless she personally witnessed abuse, any answer will be pure speculation. 627 00:46:59,945 --> 00:47:03,866 Your Honor, most abuse happens in secret without witnesses. 628 00:47:03,866 --> 00:47:06,910 If the mother of a child isn't considered an expert witness 629 00:47:06,910 --> 00:47:09,705 on what happened to her son in her own home, who is? 630 00:47:11,290 --> 00:47:13,166 Overruled. Proceed. 631 00:47:13,667 --> 00:47:16,795 Ms. Reid, do you believe Danny was ever sexually abused? 632 00:47:31,185 --> 00:47:32,186 No. 633 00:47:33,687 --> 00:47:36,690 - I'm sorry. Let me ask that again. - I don't believe he was abused. 634 00:47:38,609 --> 00:47:43,238 Ms. Reid, I understand that this is very difficult for you. 635 00:47:43,822 --> 00:47:46,158 I just want to remind you that you are under oath. 636 00:47:48,035 --> 00:47:50,662 Are you sure there wasn't any kind of abuse? 637 00:47:50,662 --> 00:47:51,747 Objection. 638 00:47:51,747 --> 00:47:53,165 Are you sure you didn't hear anything? 639 00:47:53,165 --> 00:47:54,291 Asked and answered. 640 00:47:54,291 --> 00:47:56,502 - Are you sure that you didn't see any-- - Sustained. 641 00:48:03,175 --> 00:48:04,176 Ms. Reid? 642 00:48:05,385 --> 00:48:06,386 No. 643 00:48:09,932 --> 00:48:10,933 No further questions. 644 00:48:11,850 --> 00:48:12,851 Ms. Richards. 645 00:48:14,269 --> 00:48:15,437 No questions, Your Honor. 646 00:48:15,437 --> 00:48:17,314 The witness is excused. 647 00:48:32,579 --> 00:48:34,706 We'll adjourn till tomorrow. 648 00:48:34,706 --> 00:48:36,166 Escort the jury out please. 649 00:48:38,085 --> 00:48:39,086 All rise. 650 00:48:47,302 --> 00:48:48,554 Danny, stand up. 651 00:49:09,241 --> 00:49:14,037 We tramped the open moorland In the rainy April weather 652 00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:20,961 And came upon the little inn That we had found together 653 00:49:22,129 --> 00:49:28,302 The landlord gave us toast and tea And stopped to share a joke 654 00:49:29,636 --> 00:49:33,223 And I remember firelight 655 00:49:36,602 --> 00:49:41,315 I remember firelight 656 00:49:41,315 --> 00:49:44,484 And you remember smoke 657 00:49:48,572 --> 00:49:53,702 We ran about the meadow grass With all the harebells bending 658 00:49:56,955 --> 00:50:02,419 And shaking in the summer wind A summer never-ending 659 00:50:03,462 --> 00:50:08,926 We wandered to the little stream Among the river flats 660 00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:13,555 And I remember willow trees 661 00:50:13,555 --> 00:50:20,729 I remember willow trees 662 00:50:21,355 --> 00:50:24,399 And you remember gnats 663 00:50:29,363 --> 00:50:35,285 We strolled the Spanish marketplace At 90 in the shade 664 00:50:36,036 --> 00:50:40,999 With all the fruit and vegetables So temptingly arrayed 665 00:50:42,209 --> 00:50:45,379 And we can share a memory 666 00:50:45,921 --> 00:50:49,383 As every lover must 667 00:50:49,967 --> 00:50:53,387 And I remember oranges 668 00:50:53,387 --> 00:51:00,227 I remember oranges 669 00:51:00,727 --> 00:51:03,647 And you remember dust 670 00:51:05,607 --> 00:51:10,404 The autumn leaves are tumbling down And winter's almost here 671 00:51:11,446 --> 00:51:16,201 But through the spring and summertime We laughed away the year 672 00:51:30,591 --> 00:51:34,887 Two happy hearts that beat as one 673 00:51:35,554 --> 00:51:41,018 When I had thought that we were "we" 674 00:51:43,020 --> 00:51:49,985 But we were "you and me"