2 00:00:12,545 --> 00:00:15,245 - Oh, they're gonna have a weekend rendezvous, look out. 3 00:00:20,487 --> 00:00:23,217 - One day, a friend of mine, an Englishman, 4 00:00:23,323 --> 00:00:26,033 who lives in Los Angeles, who was in the world of film, 5 00:00:26,092 --> 00:00:29,362 he called me and told me that he had two friends in town, 6 00:00:29,429 --> 00:00:30,729 a filmmaker who was making 7 00:00:30,830 --> 00:00:32,770 an important indie film in London, 8 00:00:32,866 --> 00:00:34,266 and his girlfriend. 9 00:00:34,367 --> 00:00:36,367 I learned that this is Simon Monjack. 10 00:00:36,436 --> 00:00:38,766 He said his grandfather founded British Steel, 11 00:00:38,872 --> 00:00:41,272 something like that, and he's worth $1 billion. 12 00:00:41,374 --> 00:00:43,244 Since I'd never met a billionaire before, 13 00:00:43,343 --> 00:00:46,883 and I'm a very curious person, I decided to host a dinner. 14 00:00:48,181 --> 00:00:49,581 So Simon kind of held forth 15 00:00:49,682 --> 00:00:51,522 and he kind of controlled the table. 16 00:00:51,584 --> 00:00:54,594 And he told us a lot of things about himself that night. 17 00:00:54,687 --> 00:00:58,117 He said that he was the largest collector of Vermeer, 18 00:00:58,224 --> 00:00:59,864 the great Dutch painter. 19 00:00:59,926 --> 00:01:02,056 He had more Vermeers than anyone else in the world. 20 00:01:02,128 --> 00:01:05,098 He had dated Elle Macpherson and Madonna. 21 00:01:05,198 --> 00:01:07,628 He said that he had been dying from terminal brain cancer 22 00:01:07,734 --> 00:01:10,604 and that he had bought an experimental treatment 23 00:01:10,703 --> 00:01:13,143 derived from the fins of sharks 24 00:01:13,239 --> 00:01:14,909 and that it had saved his life. 25 00:01:14,974 --> 00:01:17,414 He said that he had a collection of Ferraris, 26 00:01:17,477 --> 00:01:19,077 17 in all. 27 00:01:19,145 --> 00:01:20,945 You know, we laughed and we had a good time, 28 00:01:21,047 --> 00:01:23,117 and, you know, I wondered if he'd ever finance 29 00:01:23,216 --> 00:01:24,716 one of the movies I wanted to make, 30 00:01:24,784 --> 00:01:26,054 and that was it. 31 00:01:26,119 --> 00:01:27,989 The only hint that anything was askew 32 00:01:28,088 --> 00:01:30,458 was that Simon had told me his movie 33 00:01:30,557 --> 00:01:32,657 was getting the best reviews 34 00:01:32,759 --> 00:01:35,259 in the history of independent film in England. 35 00:01:35,328 --> 00:01:38,298 My friend, in London, went to see the movie, 36 00:01:38,398 --> 00:01:39,798 and he came back and he said, 37 00:01:39,899 --> 00:01:41,469 "This is-- it's pretty terrible." 38 00:01:41,568 --> 00:01:43,398 - In this generation of lust, 39 00:01:43,470 --> 00:01:47,010 I never found you, Lucy. 40 00:01:47,107 --> 00:01:49,677 No, I can't hear you, Lucy. 41 00:01:53,313 --> 00:01:54,953 - So that was kind of shocking. 42 00:01:56,249 --> 00:02:01,419 Time goes by, I get an email from his girlfriend. 43 00:02:01,488 --> 00:02:05,488 And I find out that every single word 44 00:02:05,592 --> 00:02:07,262 out of his mouth was a lie. 45 00:02:07,327 --> 00:02:11,697 One of the ways that Simon legitimized those lies 46 00:02:11,798 --> 00:02:15,338 was by bringing a lovely girl into the equation. 47 00:02:15,435 --> 00:02:16,995 That was the cloak. 48 00:02:17,103 --> 00:02:19,713 And it was perfect because she believed the lies too. 49 00:02:19,806 --> 00:02:23,836 So he lived off this girl that had worked her heart out 50 00:02:23,943 --> 00:02:25,683 for every penny she had. 51 00:02:25,778 --> 00:02:28,148 And when her money ran out, he was gone. 52 00:02:28,214 --> 00:02:32,794 And very quickly, he became engaged to one of her friends. 53 00:02:32,852 --> 00:02:37,322 I can't stress enough how convincing this man was. 54 00:02:48,201 --> 00:02:53,971 - ♪ I had it all planned out before you met me ♪ 55 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,680 ♪ Was gonna leave early and so swiftly ♪ 56 00:02:58,745 --> 00:03:03,145 ♪ Maybe in a fire or crash off a ravine ♪ 57 00:03:03,216 --> 00:03:08,556 ♪ People would weep, how tragic, so early ♪ 58 00:03:08,655 --> 00:03:13,025 ♪ I was gonna die young ♪ 59 00:03:13,092 --> 00:03:18,162 ♪ Now I gotta wait for you honey ♪ 60 00:03:18,231 --> 00:03:22,071 ♪ I was gonna die young ♪ 61 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,850 - I want to talk now about Brittany Murphy, 62 00:03:35,915 --> 00:03:37,415 her controversial husband. 63 00:03:37,517 --> 00:03:40,217 The unemployed British screenwriter Simon Monjack 64 00:03:40,286 --> 00:03:42,286 is being portrayed as the villain, 65 00:03:42,388 --> 00:03:45,118 the drunken bully living off a woman that he married 66 00:03:45,225 --> 00:03:47,725 because his visa had expired. 67 00:03:47,794 --> 00:03:49,404 - I don't think Simon has recovered 68 00:03:49,462 --> 00:03:51,532 from the bad publicity. He was like a Svengali. 69 00:03:51,598 --> 00:03:54,198 - People don't die at home with the husband present 70 00:03:54,267 --> 00:03:56,097 of pneumonia, of anemia. 71 00:03:56,202 --> 00:03:58,072 - "Every story needs a villain," 72 00:03:58,137 --> 00:04:01,707 Monjack said after his wife's tragic death, concluding, 73 00:04:01,774 --> 00:04:04,444 "And everyone decided it is me." 74 00:04:04,544 --> 00:04:06,554 And on that point, ladies and gentlemen, 75 00:04:06,613 --> 00:04:09,553 I agree with him. 76 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:15,659 - I'm Linda Monjack, and I am 77 00:04:15,755 --> 00:04:18,385 Simon Monjack's mother. 78 00:04:18,458 --> 00:04:21,888 - And I'm James Monjack, Simon's brother. 79 00:04:21,961 --> 00:04:23,301 - As he was growing up, 80 00:04:23,396 --> 00:04:25,626 Simon was the most incredible guy. 81 00:04:25,732 --> 00:04:29,102 He had an IQ off the scale. 82 00:04:29,168 --> 00:04:33,508 He was able to charm anyone, old ladies, mothers. 83 00:04:33,606 --> 00:04:35,906 He would turn his charm on anyone. 84 00:04:35,975 --> 00:04:39,305 - From early childhood, Simon had that ability 85 00:04:39,412 --> 00:04:41,312 to manipulate the environment 86 00:04:41,414 --> 00:04:44,024 to get what he wanted out of it. 87 00:04:44,117 --> 00:04:47,647 - Simon was 16 when his father died. 88 00:04:47,754 --> 00:04:50,194 It was a terrible, terrible shock. 89 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:51,860 He never was the same again. 90 00:04:51,958 --> 00:04:54,628 He was still witty and full of life and funny, 91 00:04:54,694 --> 00:04:56,534 but something died in him. 92 00:04:56,629 --> 00:05:01,499 And I think he became more and more... 93 00:05:01,601 --> 00:05:04,171 unreal. 94 00:05:04,270 --> 00:05:07,170 He lived in the now. The now is important. 95 00:05:07,273 --> 00:05:09,313 The now meant everything to him. 96 00:05:09,375 --> 00:05:11,675 In a minute, that's not the now. 97 00:05:11,778 --> 00:05:13,178 The next moment happened, 98 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,719 and there's a new moment to experience. 99 00:05:16,849 --> 00:05:20,449 But he did fall in and out of love very easily. 100 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,990 He was in a very good place when he met Brittany. 101 00:05:23,056 --> 00:05:24,356 They were very much in love. 102 00:05:24,457 --> 00:05:25,987 When you saw them together, 103 00:05:26,059 --> 00:05:28,189 they literally fell into each other's eyes. 104 00:05:28,294 --> 00:05:30,704 I mean, literally drowned in each other. 105 00:05:30,797 --> 00:05:33,827 The one conversation that I remember with her 106 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:36,540 was just before she died, and I said, 107 00:05:36,636 --> 00:05:39,366 "Oh, Brittany, Simon tells me you're not feeling well. 108 00:05:39,472 --> 00:05:40,742 What's the matter?" 109 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:42,380 She said, "I'm having trouble breathing. 110 00:05:42,475 --> 00:05:44,675 If I go up the stairs," she was like, 111 00:05:44,744 --> 00:05:46,554 "By the time I get to the top of the stairs, 112 00:05:46,646 --> 00:05:47,876 I can't breathe." 113 00:05:47,980 --> 00:05:49,650 She said, "Do you think I'm dying?" 114 00:05:49,716 --> 00:05:51,546 So I said, "No, of course you're not dying, you're fine. 115 00:05:51,651 --> 00:05:54,151 But you need to go to the doctor." 116 00:05:56,989 --> 00:06:00,529 I didn't speak to them again until Simon phoned me 117 00:06:00,593 --> 00:06:02,733 on that terrible day. 118 00:06:02,829 --> 00:06:04,929 He was totally devastated, 119 00:06:05,031 --> 00:06:08,401 and he cried for about two hours on the phone. 120 00:06:08,501 --> 00:06:10,201 He just could not get his head around it. 121 00:06:10,269 --> 00:06:13,539 He kept saying, "She's dead. How can--she can't be. 122 00:06:13,606 --> 00:06:14,736 How? How?" 123 00:06:22,682 --> 00:06:25,352 He was in shock for months. 124 00:06:26,853 --> 00:06:29,023 Nobody could get through to him. 125 00:06:29,088 --> 00:06:31,088 He's too frightened of the paparazzi, 126 00:06:31,190 --> 00:06:35,530 and he was getting increasingly ill. 127 00:06:35,595 --> 00:06:39,695 And you could see it in his face, his hair was wild. 128 00:06:39,766 --> 00:06:42,596 I phoned him, and I couldn't get him for a couple of hours. 129 00:06:42,702 --> 00:06:45,442 And I finally got hold of him, and he said, "I'm alive. 130 00:06:45,538 --> 00:06:48,068 I'm alive. I went sleep and I'm alive." 131 00:06:48,141 --> 00:06:50,711 Which I couldn't get my head around. 132 00:06:50,777 --> 00:06:54,377 I didn't know why he would say such a thing. 133 00:06:54,447 --> 00:06:56,077 He was confused. 134 00:06:56,149 --> 00:07:01,119 So I think he felt let down by everyone. 135 00:07:11,431 --> 00:07:15,001 - In May, I had taken a trip to Hawaii 136 00:07:15,101 --> 00:07:17,441 with, like, a significant other at the time. 137 00:07:17,503 --> 00:07:19,273 Simon called me a lot. 138 00:07:19,338 --> 00:07:21,938 And I didn't answer a lot because I was, 139 00:07:22,008 --> 00:07:23,808 like, "No, I'm on vacation." 140 00:07:23,910 --> 00:07:25,310 Some of his messages, 141 00:07:25,411 --> 00:07:28,081 you could sense this growing frustration 142 00:07:28,147 --> 00:07:30,647 that I wasn't there for him. 143 00:07:30,750 --> 00:07:33,450 I certainly never viewed my friendship with Simon 144 00:07:33,519 --> 00:07:35,149 as anything romantic. 145 00:07:35,254 --> 00:07:38,464 And I don't think he did. I mean, I have a wife. 146 00:07:38,524 --> 00:07:39,994 I don't even look at men that way, 147 00:07:40,092 --> 00:07:42,432 so it definitely wasn't something, 148 00:07:42,495 --> 00:07:47,595 but it did cross my mind just because you never know. 149 00:07:47,667 --> 00:07:51,667 That probably was hard for him at the time. 150 00:07:51,771 --> 00:07:54,011 I'll never know because it was 151 00:07:54,106 --> 00:07:57,306 right after I got home from that trip that he died. 152 00:08:10,223 --> 00:08:13,233 - Everybody ready? - Yes, sir. 153 00:08:13,326 --> 00:08:19,296 - This evening, Mr. Monjack was found unresponsive. 154 00:08:19,365 --> 00:08:21,525 Paramedics responded to the house. 155 00:08:21,634 --> 00:08:25,304 He was pronounced at 2145 hours. 156 00:08:25,371 --> 00:08:27,311 His death is under investigation 157 00:08:27,373 --> 00:08:30,013 by the Los Angeles County Department of Coroner 158 00:08:30,076 --> 00:08:33,806 with the assistance of LAPD. 159 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,750 I got notified of Simon's death, 160 00:08:35,848 --> 00:08:40,048 and then it's like, "Are you kidding me?" 161 00:08:40,152 --> 00:08:41,752 - I get a call in the night. 162 00:08:41,854 --> 00:08:44,564 Sharon's screaming, "Please, please come here. 163 00:08:44,657 --> 00:08:46,987 "Please come here. It's happening all over again. 164 00:08:47,059 --> 00:08:50,429 I'm living Brittany all over again." 165 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:54,170 So I get in the car, head up to the house, 166 00:08:54,233 --> 00:08:58,443 and when I get up there, there is media everywhere. 167 00:08:58,538 --> 00:08:59,908 I couldn't get to the gate, 168 00:09:00,006 --> 00:09:02,536 much less get through the gate. 169 00:09:06,946 --> 00:09:08,576 - That's a day I won't forget. 170 00:09:08,681 --> 00:09:12,751 Simon came out, he was sweating. 171 00:09:12,852 --> 00:09:14,722 And he's got a cigar in one hand, 172 00:09:14,787 --> 00:09:17,917 a cognac in the other hand, but he would be talking to me 173 00:09:18,024 --> 00:09:20,234 and he would drift off to sleep. 174 00:09:20,293 --> 00:09:21,863 And then he would just open his eyes 175 00:09:21,928 --> 00:09:23,398 and come back into the conversation 176 00:09:23,462 --> 00:09:24,802 like he was there the whole time. 177 00:09:24,897 --> 00:09:26,897 And when I think back about it, 178 00:09:26,966 --> 00:09:28,726 he's dying in front of me, 179 00:09:28,801 --> 00:09:31,141 and I don't know he's dying in front of me. 180 00:09:31,237 --> 00:09:34,607 - Here's a copy of Simon Monjack's report. 181 00:09:34,707 --> 00:09:36,207 Cause of death is listed as 182 00:09:36,275 --> 00:09:39,475 community acquired acute bronchial pneumonia. 183 00:09:39,579 --> 00:09:41,749 The toxicology study 184 00:09:41,814 --> 00:09:45,284 showed the presence of multiple medications. 185 00:09:45,384 --> 00:09:48,454 The media, they said, "Isn't that strange? 186 00:09:48,554 --> 00:09:51,164 Both died from the same cause of death." 187 00:09:51,257 --> 00:09:54,227 And it'd be like, "Yeah, we don't get a lot of those." 188 00:09:54,293 --> 00:09:57,963 - Just five months after Brittany passed away, 189 00:09:58,064 --> 00:10:03,104 Simon, her husband, passed away in the same bathroom 190 00:10:03,169 --> 00:10:08,339 in the same mansion for almost identical reasons. 191 00:10:08,441 --> 00:10:12,611 - A small, tiny, petite woman and a very large man, 192 00:10:12,678 --> 00:10:15,578 they die of the same thing in the same house. 193 00:10:15,648 --> 00:10:19,188 - People start thinking there's more behind this, 194 00:10:19,285 --> 00:10:21,315 there's something else. 195 00:10:33,099 --> 00:10:37,099 - After Simon died, it was like, "What happened?" 196 00:10:37,169 --> 00:10:38,669 You know? 197 00:10:38,771 --> 00:10:41,511 I think the initial thought was like something 198 00:10:41,607 --> 00:10:44,707 is causing this in the house. 199 00:10:44,810 --> 00:10:47,880 - I've pleaded with Simon to go to the hospital. 200 00:10:47,980 --> 00:10:49,520 He looked terrible. 201 00:10:49,615 --> 00:10:53,785 My husband was very worried because he's a builder, 202 00:10:53,853 --> 00:10:57,323 and he thought it was to do with the mold. 203 00:10:57,390 --> 00:11:00,190 - To me, it was obvious when I went to the house, 204 00:11:00,292 --> 00:11:02,862 in this gorgeous picture window. 205 00:11:02,962 --> 00:11:05,032 I'm looking around the frame of that window 206 00:11:05,131 --> 00:11:10,001 and you visibly see mold on the side, 207 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:12,169 across the top, across the bottom, 208 00:11:12,238 --> 00:11:15,538 and I look over to the French doors and there's mold there. 209 00:11:15,641 --> 00:11:17,881 I don't think there's any other explanation 210 00:11:17,977 --> 00:11:19,577 for their death. 211 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,209 - All of the symptoms, disorientation, 212 00:11:22,314 --> 00:11:24,754 feeling sick, dreadful headaches, 213 00:11:24,850 --> 00:11:30,160 all these things come from inhaling spores from mold. 214 00:11:30,222 --> 00:11:32,392 - Sharon Murphy claims she discovered 215 00:11:32,491 --> 00:11:35,231 deadly mold hiding in the walls of their mansion. 216 00:11:35,327 --> 00:11:38,697 Just look at what we found at Brittany's home today. 217 00:11:38,764 --> 00:11:42,074 - I know that there were rumors that toxic mold 218 00:11:42,168 --> 00:11:44,398 may have played a role in Brittany's death 219 00:11:44,503 --> 00:11:46,913 and possibly the death of her husband. 220 00:11:47,006 --> 00:11:49,606 But on my autopsy, 221 00:11:49,709 --> 00:11:53,049 I didn't see any evidence of mold in her lungs 222 00:11:53,112 --> 00:11:56,182 or any other organs because you can see the hyphae, 223 00:11:56,248 --> 00:12:00,088 which are little strands of mold or the fruiting bodies. 224 00:12:00,186 --> 00:12:03,716 - I told Sharon I would get somebody from County Health 225 00:12:03,789 --> 00:12:06,189 to come up and they'd check the house. 226 00:12:06,258 --> 00:12:08,558 And then I got a call from her attorney 227 00:12:08,627 --> 00:12:11,027 who said Sharon doesn't want to give any access, 228 00:12:11,097 --> 00:12:13,527 and she's selling the house anyway. 229 00:12:13,599 --> 00:12:15,899 Just stay away. 230 00:12:15,968 --> 00:12:19,608 - New shocking allegations coming from her father, 231 00:12:19,705 --> 00:12:21,465 who says she was poisoned. 232 00:12:21,574 --> 00:12:24,544 And Murphy's father, Angelo Bertolotti, joining us now. 233 00:12:24,610 --> 00:12:26,980 Angelo, do you suspect somebody? 234 00:12:27,079 --> 00:12:31,979 - Yeah, I do really, but I'd rather not speak about that. 235 00:12:32,084 --> 00:12:34,094 I feel she was poisoned. 236 00:12:34,153 --> 00:12:36,293 There's no question about that. 237 00:12:36,388 --> 00:12:39,128 And I feel she was murdered. 238 00:12:39,225 --> 00:12:41,785 - Once the two of them had died of the same cause, 239 00:12:41,894 --> 00:12:44,964 Brittany's dad reached out to me. 240 00:12:45,064 --> 00:12:49,804 He was sure that someone had done it. 241 00:12:49,902 --> 00:12:53,272 - Angelo Bertolotti lived down in Florida 242 00:12:53,339 --> 00:12:56,309 and ran a string of nightclubs. 243 00:12:56,408 --> 00:13:01,308 - Sharon, Brittany's mom, really does not like Angelo. 244 00:13:01,413 --> 00:13:03,323 She said that he only came around 245 00:13:03,415 --> 00:13:04,815 when she started making money. 246 00:13:04,917 --> 00:13:06,687 - He says, "I was involved with the mob. 247 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:08,986 I wasn't very involved in my marriage." 248 00:13:09,088 --> 00:13:12,828 - Angelo was actually banned from ever seeing his daughter 249 00:13:12,925 --> 00:13:17,155 at the gravesite multiple times until he was able to prove 250 00:13:17,263 --> 00:13:20,533 he was the biological father of Brittany Murphy. 251 00:13:20,633 --> 00:13:21,973 That's horrible. 252 00:13:22,034 --> 00:13:24,004 - Take two. 253 00:13:24,103 --> 00:13:25,873 - I'm Wendy Abrahamson, 254 00:13:25,971 --> 00:13:28,041 and I was a fan of Brittany 255 00:13:28,140 --> 00:13:31,880 and the best friend of her father Angelo. 256 00:13:31,977 --> 00:13:36,347 So her dad, he needed help to find her grave, 257 00:13:36,448 --> 00:13:40,048 and so some of the fans said, "Oh, we're gonna help." 258 00:13:40,152 --> 00:13:41,822 We just became really close. 259 00:13:41,887 --> 00:13:45,887 Of course, that common denominator of Brittany 260 00:13:45,991 --> 00:13:50,061 started it and then we were just best friends. 261 00:13:50,162 --> 00:13:52,332 And of course, he thought it was really strange 262 00:13:52,398 --> 00:13:58,338 that the mother, his ex-wife, was perfectly fine. 263 00:13:58,404 --> 00:14:01,644 And that the married couple, much younger than her, 264 00:14:01,707 --> 00:14:03,077 were both dead. 265 00:14:03,175 --> 00:14:06,805 These are things that nobody has seen. 266 00:14:06,879 --> 00:14:09,179 We went, of course, to the coroner's office 267 00:14:09,248 --> 00:14:13,988 to obtain the hair samples and have those tested. 268 00:14:14,053 --> 00:14:17,563 - Ed Winter says his office did forward toxicology samples 269 00:14:17,656 --> 00:14:20,556 to a private lab hired by the late actress's father. 270 00:14:20,659 --> 00:14:23,199 The private analysis states Brittany Murphy 271 00:14:23,262 --> 00:14:26,672 had high concentrations of ten heavy metals in her system 272 00:14:26,732 --> 00:14:29,172 and may have been intentionally poison. 273 00:14:29,235 --> 00:14:34,405 - I received a call, an email from Angelo Bertolotti. 274 00:14:34,506 --> 00:14:39,246 I can understand him asking, 275 00:14:39,345 --> 00:14:43,275 "What are you telling me, my 32-year-old daughter, 276 00:14:43,382 --> 00:14:47,622 she just died like that from pneumonia and anemia?" 277 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,190 He then said he had gotten hold of a toxicology report 278 00:14:51,257 --> 00:14:52,757 on a sample of hair, 279 00:14:52,858 --> 00:14:56,058 and it showed heavy levels of heavy metals. 280 00:14:56,128 --> 00:14:59,028 I've had cases like that, fascinating cases, 281 00:14:59,098 --> 00:15:02,198 one with a woman who was repeatedly poisoning 282 00:15:02,268 --> 00:15:04,138 her husband with thallium. 283 00:15:04,236 --> 00:15:06,306 I'm not unfamiliar with that. 284 00:15:06,405 --> 00:15:08,105 - Heavy metals are commonly found 285 00:15:08,207 --> 00:15:09,607 in rat and insect killers. 286 00:15:09,708 --> 00:15:11,108 They can cause the symptoms 287 00:15:11,210 --> 00:15:13,380 Murphy experienced before her death. 288 00:15:13,445 --> 00:15:17,145 - I absolutely, positively thinks she was poisoned, yes. 289 00:15:17,249 --> 00:15:20,049 I'm calling for her to be exhumed. 290 00:15:20,119 --> 00:15:23,319 - You know, Angelo was in the press quite a bit. 291 00:15:23,422 --> 00:15:25,162 And they were putting stuff out there, 292 00:15:25,257 --> 00:15:26,827 like she poisoned them. 293 00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:28,786 She's responsible for their deaths. 294 00:15:28,894 --> 00:15:30,604 So what happens? 295 00:15:30,663 --> 00:15:32,833 You got a grieving mom who now becomes a murder suspect. 296 00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:34,932 That's ridiculous. I mean, it's crazy. 297 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,440 - It was just magazine covers and salacious headlines, 298 00:15:38,504 --> 00:15:40,174 and it became this circus. 299 00:15:40,272 --> 00:15:43,842 So that's when the conspiracy theories go into overdrive. 300 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:45,983 - Like, maybe her mother could have had something 301 00:15:46,078 --> 00:15:48,308 to do with it, just speculation. 302 00:15:48,414 --> 00:15:51,954 - It was a plan from the beginning for both of them 303 00:15:52,017 --> 00:15:54,447 to take her money after she died. 304 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,290 And the mom got the last laugh. 305 00:15:58,357 --> 00:16:00,857 - I would never put two and two together, 306 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,160 but these days and age, mothers, you know, 307 00:16:04,263 --> 00:16:08,103 they take out their kids all the time. 308 00:16:08,167 --> 00:16:13,007 - Brittany and Sharon were as close as two people could be. 309 00:16:13,105 --> 00:16:17,335 Maybe Sharon made some mistakes. 310 00:16:18,277 --> 00:16:22,477 But I know that she loved that girl wildly. 311 00:16:23,449 --> 00:16:26,019 - Never for a minute did I ever believe 312 00:16:26,118 --> 00:16:28,948 that Sharon Murphy was responsible 313 00:16:29,021 --> 00:16:30,661 for those two young people dying. 314 00:16:30,723 --> 00:16:33,193 I would never believe it. 315 00:16:33,292 --> 00:16:35,862 Not for a millisecond. 316 00:16:35,961 --> 00:16:40,971 - Initially, when I was given this private laboratory report, 317 00:16:41,033 --> 00:16:42,803 I said, "Oh, my God. What is this?" 318 00:16:42,868 --> 00:16:46,668 And then I looked carefully and saw 319 00:16:46,739 --> 00:16:49,039 that this was not a case of poisoning. 320 00:16:49,141 --> 00:16:52,711 The heavy metals were found in the hair, not in the roots. 321 00:16:52,811 --> 00:16:57,421 Heavy metals take a while to be absorbed from the blood. 322 00:16:57,516 --> 00:16:59,686 In order to be in the hair, 323 00:16:59,752 --> 00:17:01,852 they got to be picked up by the hair root, 324 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,860 and then they got to grow out. 325 00:17:03,922 --> 00:17:08,562 These metals had to have come from hairsprays, hair dyes, 326 00:17:08,660 --> 00:17:10,330 and things of that nature. 327 00:17:10,396 --> 00:17:12,026 They are not in her bloodstream. 328 00:17:12,097 --> 00:17:13,527 They are in her hair. 329 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:18,099 Did she die because someone poisoned her? 330 00:17:18,203 --> 00:17:19,713 No. 331 00:17:19,772 --> 00:17:22,442 - There were elevated levels of things like aluminum 332 00:17:22,541 --> 00:17:24,841 or one or two other things, but it's hair dye. 333 00:17:24,910 --> 00:17:26,580 That's what does it. 334 00:17:26,678 --> 00:17:29,618 And Brittany has dyed her hair many different times. 335 00:17:29,715 --> 00:17:33,585 And I didn't see any evidence of any type of poison. 336 00:17:33,685 --> 00:17:35,585 - There is no question in my mind 337 00:17:35,687 --> 00:17:37,257 about the cause of death. 338 00:17:37,356 --> 00:17:40,086 So this is a 32-year-old woman. 339 00:17:40,192 --> 00:17:44,262 I don't know the bankroll of her and her husband, 340 00:17:44,363 --> 00:17:46,603 but I assume that they had money. 341 00:17:46,698 --> 00:17:50,438 And yet they lived as if they were peasants in squalor. 342 00:17:50,536 --> 00:17:53,406 To develop an anemia of this nature, 343 00:17:53,472 --> 00:17:55,142 she was not eating. 344 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,410 How did all of this develop? 345 00:17:57,476 --> 00:17:59,276 That's the fascinating question. 346 00:17:59,378 --> 00:18:01,748 This is where you got to bring in the forensic psychiatrist 347 00:18:01,814 --> 00:18:05,554 and see if he can dig up enough information about her 348 00:18:05,617 --> 00:18:07,647 and her husband Simon Monjack 349 00:18:07,753 --> 00:18:10,763 to try to answer that question. 350 00:18:17,596 --> 00:18:19,796 - That was during a little dip she was having 351 00:18:19,898 --> 00:18:21,268 that he came along. 352 00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:25,843 And I think that's where her judgment 353 00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:29,068 was muddled and desperate, 354 00:18:29,141 --> 00:18:31,611 and she became prey to things 355 00:18:31,677 --> 00:18:34,007 that she thought would help her. 356 00:18:39,585 --> 00:18:42,915 - I feel like what brought Brittany Murphy's career down 357 00:18:42,988 --> 00:18:47,288 is a perfect storm of getting cast in the wrong movies 358 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,129 and her personal life. 359 00:18:49,194 --> 00:18:53,804 Mid 2000s, the biggest rumors that I was hearing 360 00:18:53,866 --> 00:18:56,296 and not reporting were about drugs. 361 00:18:56,368 --> 00:18:57,668 - Do we read them? 362 00:18:57,769 --> 00:19:00,839 No, we wait. Okay. 363 00:19:00,939 --> 00:19:02,669 - I remember her as a presenter 364 00:19:02,774 --> 00:19:05,444 at the 2003 Independent Spirit Awards, 365 00:19:05,511 --> 00:19:07,551 where her assignment was to read the names 366 00:19:07,646 --> 00:19:08,846 of five nominees, 367 00:19:08,947 --> 00:19:10,847 open an envelope, and read the winner. 368 00:19:10,949 --> 00:19:13,149 She kept trying to read every nominee as the winner. 369 00:19:13,218 --> 00:19:15,188 And when she arrived triumphantly 370 00:19:15,287 --> 00:19:16,887 at the real winner, 371 00:19:16,989 --> 00:19:19,859 she inspired no confidence that she had it right. 372 00:19:19,958 --> 00:19:25,028 - America, just one moment, please. 373 00:19:25,130 --> 00:19:26,530 No! 374 00:19:26,632 --> 00:19:28,232 For crying out stinking loud, 375 00:19:28,333 --> 00:19:30,243 please tell me when you're going to drop it. 376 00:19:30,335 --> 00:19:31,965 Okay. And the winner is... 377 00:19:32,037 --> 00:19:34,067 No! 378 00:19:36,642 --> 00:19:40,252 - Brittany Murphy, around the beginning of my career, 379 00:19:40,345 --> 00:19:45,315 was talked about a lot. 380 00:19:45,384 --> 00:19:47,394 I first started hearing rumors 381 00:19:47,486 --> 00:19:50,516 shortly after her split from Ashton Kutcher, 382 00:19:50,589 --> 00:19:53,729 rumors about her just being impossible to deal with, 383 00:19:53,825 --> 00:19:58,055 whereas Ashton was the golden boy of Hollywood. 384 00:19:58,163 --> 00:20:02,903 Ultimately, you can only keep things quiet for so long. 385 00:20:03,001 --> 00:20:05,371 When it starts to get out there, 386 00:20:05,437 --> 00:20:09,577 then you start to develop a reputation. 387 00:20:09,675 --> 00:20:13,175 - Perez Hilton didn't get to be Perez Hilton 388 00:20:13,245 --> 00:20:15,905 by writing nice stories about celebrities. 389 00:20:16,014 --> 00:20:18,684 He was writing doodles on their photos. 390 00:20:18,750 --> 00:20:20,620 Brittany Murphy, "Is she pill popping?" 391 00:20:20,719 --> 00:20:22,749 "Is she anorexic?" "Is she bulimic?" 392 00:20:22,854 --> 00:20:27,434 - I remember she called me crying and said, 393 00:20:27,526 --> 00:20:29,086 "Can you call my manager?" 394 00:20:29,194 --> 00:20:32,864 Who was a very, very, very big manager at the time. 395 00:20:32,931 --> 00:20:34,801 "He thinks I'm on drugs." 396 00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:38,600 I know that hurt her deeply. 397 00:20:38,704 --> 00:20:40,644 - You were kind of nasty at times. 398 00:20:40,739 --> 00:20:42,109 - I was more than nasty. 399 00:20:42,207 --> 00:20:45,277 I--I didn't even view Brittany Murphy 400 00:20:45,377 --> 00:20:49,577 or any of the celebrities that I covered as real people. 401 00:20:49,648 --> 00:20:51,478 They were characters to me. 402 00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:52,823 It was almost like a way 403 00:20:52,918 --> 00:20:56,588 to disassociate myself from my actions, 404 00:20:56,655 --> 00:20:58,455 from what I was writing and saying. 405 00:20:58,557 --> 00:21:00,427 "Oh, this isn't real, 406 00:21:00,492 --> 00:21:03,632 and also Perez is a character." 407 00:21:03,729 --> 00:21:06,129 I would tell all these things to myself 408 00:21:06,231 --> 00:21:09,271 to help me sleep at night. 409 00:21:10,402 --> 00:21:12,272 If you're at a point in your life 410 00:21:12,337 --> 00:21:14,737 where your career is struggling, 411 00:21:14,806 --> 00:21:18,576 your personal life is also struggling, 412 00:21:18,644 --> 00:21:23,424 you might be drawn to the wrong people. 413 00:21:27,085 --> 00:21:28,585 - Hey, hey, hey! Whoa! 414 00:21:28,654 --> 00:21:30,494 - Brittany, can we get a fashion shot? 415 00:21:30,589 --> 00:21:31,989 - She was an open vessel. 416 00:21:32,090 --> 00:21:35,330 If she trusted you, she let you in. 417 00:21:35,427 --> 00:21:38,427 He saw her coming a mile away. 418 00:21:38,497 --> 00:21:41,367 She was pure, trusting, 419 00:21:41,466 --> 00:21:45,836 loving, open, and he saw her coming. 420 00:21:45,937 --> 00:21:48,637 - And got it. Mark. 421 00:21:48,707 --> 00:21:50,307 Great. Thank you. 422 00:21:50,375 --> 00:21:52,135 - My name is Harley Pasternak. 423 00:21:52,210 --> 00:21:55,210 I am a celebrity fitness and nutrition author. 424 00:21:55,314 --> 00:22:00,824 I trained Simon Monjack a number of years ago. 425 00:22:02,187 --> 00:22:03,517 First time I met Simon, 426 00:22:03,622 --> 00:22:05,862 he rolled up in a vintage Ferrari, 427 00:22:05,957 --> 00:22:08,387 and he got out smoking these fancy, I think, 428 00:22:08,493 --> 00:22:10,633 Cohiba cigars, and his girlfriend 429 00:22:10,696 --> 00:22:12,526 had the biggest diamond ring you've ever seen. 430 00:22:12,631 --> 00:22:15,401 They got engaged the night before, and she was happy. 431 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:18,340 And then he said, "We're both gonna work with you." 432 00:22:18,403 --> 00:22:21,873 And then his balance started to run up a lot more, 433 00:22:21,973 --> 00:22:24,043 and I wouldn't let him book new sessions. 434 00:22:24,142 --> 00:22:25,742 And then he called me one day and he says, 435 00:22:25,844 --> 00:22:28,554 "Hey, I'm dating Brittany Murphy now. 436 00:22:28,647 --> 00:22:31,347 "And I want to bring her in and for us to work out together, 437 00:22:31,416 --> 00:22:33,386 and I'll pay you what I owe you." 438 00:22:33,485 --> 00:22:35,345 And they showed up one day. 439 00:22:35,420 --> 00:22:38,720 Brittany was for sure under the influence of something. 440 00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:40,034 Pills maybe. 441 00:22:40,092 --> 00:22:41,892 She was kind of slurring her words. 442 00:22:41,993 --> 00:22:44,563 She was very sweet and--and-- 443 00:22:44,663 --> 00:22:46,373 but kind of all over the place. 444 00:22:46,431 --> 00:22:48,901 And he said, "Brittany's got a big project, 445 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,440 and I want you to get her ready for the role." 446 00:22:51,536 --> 00:22:54,506 "Okay, well, if I'm gonna work with Brittany, 447 00:22:54,573 --> 00:22:56,243 I'll just deal with her team." 448 00:22:56,341 --> 00:22:58,041 And I remember reaching out to her team and saying, 449 00:22:58,110 --> 00:22:59,850 "She fired all of us. 450 00:22:59,911 --> 00:23:03,181 "Simon is her agent, manager, and lawyer and everything now. 451 00:23:03,248 --> 00:23:05,248 You have to go through Simon." 452 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:06,850 And they said, "We're concerned 453 00:23:06,918 --> 00:23:10,088 "because no one can contact her directly. 454 00:23:10,188 --> 00:23:11,788 You can only go through Simon." 455 00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:13,390 I don't even know if she had a phone. 456 00:23:13,458 --> 00:23:15,588 Simon was the only one who carried the phone. 457 00:23:18,864 --> 00:23:21,974 - She just seemed like she was high. 458 00:23:22,067 --> 00:23:25,097 So I don't--I don't know. 459 00:23:30,976 --> 00:23:33,706 - I would say that Simon Monjack 460 00:23:33,779 --> 00:23:36,819 accelerated the path that Brittany Murphy 461 00:23:36,915 --> 00:23:39,945 was heading down by the time that they got together. 462 00:23:40,051 --> 00:23:43,991 - I couldn't believe that this bottom-feeding sociopath 463 00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:47,459 had actually worked his way up the food chain 464 00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:50,559 to someone who was actually a legitimate artist. 465 00:23:50,629 --> 00:23:52,999 So the first thing I did was I called her agency. 466 00:23:53,098 --> 00:23:55,968 I said, "You need to tell her every word out of his mouth 467 00:23:56,067 --> 00:23:59,297 is a lie and that she's got to get the hell out." 468 00:23:59,404 --> 00:24:02,614 The word coming back was her manager had tried 469 00:24:02,674 --> 00:24:04,644 and gotten fired as a result, 470 00:24:04,743 --> 00:24:06,313 that there was no talking to her. 471 00:24:06,411 --> 00:24:09,351 So I did something I never imagined myself doing, 472 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,478 I called the "National Enquirer." 473 00:24:11,583 --> 00:24:13,023 I called their tip line, 474 00:24:13,118 --> 00:24:14,648 and I said, "I don't want money for this, 475 00:24:14,753 --> 00:24:16,693 because this guy is dangerous." 476 00:24:16,788 --> 00:24:21,528 This big story comes out about Simon and Brittany. 477 00:24:21,626 --> 00:24:24,256 A week later, Perez Hilton came out with a headline 478 00:24:24,329 --> 00:24:26,999 that said "The kook and the crook." 479 00:24:27,098 --> 00:24:29,628 And I thought, "Okay, my work is done here. 480 00:24:29,701 --> 00:24:31,501 I have gotten the word out." 481 00:24:31,603 --> 00:24:33,343 - This is all starting to come out. 482 00:24:33,438 --> 00:24:37,008 Her true friends know that Simon's not good news. 483 00:24:37,108 --> 00:24:39,778 There was this talk of an intervention, 484 00:24:39,845 --> 00:24:43,815 and this intervention took place at Brittany's house. 485 00:24:45,183 --> 00:24:47,223 These friends were showing Brittany 486 00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:49,049 and her mother documentation 487 00:24:49,154 --> 00:24:52,024 that, you know, Simon had trouble with the law, 488 00:24:52,123 --> 00:24:56,033 that Simon had outstayed his visa, which he had. 489 00:24:56,127 --> 00:24:58,397 Brittany and her mom said, "No, we love Simon, 490 00:24:58,497 --> 00:25:00,497 and we believe Simon. Sorry." 491 00:25:00,565 --> 00:25:01,895 And the intervention fails. 492 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,870 - Simon started building a wall around her. 493 00:25:05,971 --> 00:25:08,011 He took charge-- he took charge of finances, 494 00:25:08,073 --> 00:25:09,413 making investments. 495 00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:11,178 He was buying property. 496 00:25:11,243 --> 00:25:15,213 He was buying jewelry, had a tiara made of diamonds 497 00:25:15,313 --> 00:25:18,083 that was a replica of Audrey Hepburn's tiara 498 00:25:18,183 --> 00:25:19,823 in "Breakfast at Tiffany's." 499 00:25:19,885 --> 00:25:21,385 So they could have 500 00:25:21,486 --> 00:25:23,586 all these investments to fall back on. 501 00:25:23,688 --> 00:25:25,888 - He was making all of her decisions. 502 00:25:25,991 --> 00:25:28,691 He was clearly getting her money. 503 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,400 He started driving her to work but waiting. 504 00:25:32,497 --> 00:25:34,767 And every time there was a break, 505 00:25:34,866 --> 00:25:37,496 she would leave and go be in the car with him. 506 00:25:37,569 --> 00:25:39,569 And it got more and more restrictive, 507 00:25:39,671 --> 00:25:41,711 and it got more and more apparent to all of us 508 00:25:41,773 --> 00:25:43,383 that she wasn't hanging out 509 00:25:43,441 --> 00:25:46,441 or having lunch with us or talking. 510 00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:49,245 - One day, her numbers were changed. 511 00:25:49,347 --> 00:25:53,117 No one knew where she was, couldn't find her. 512 00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:56,248 Disappeared. Disappeared. 513 00:25:56,354 --> 00:25:59,464 Simon took her away. 514 00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:00,858 That was it. 515 00:26:00,926 --> 00:26:03,796 He made sure no one could get to her. 516 00:26:08,199 --> 00:26:09,569 - Action. 517 00:26:11,937 --> 00:26:14,967 - This room is a personal favorite of mine. 518 00:26:18,109 --> 00:26:21,609 You will be joining some very distinguished company. 519 00:26:24,049 --> 00:26:25,879 - Cut. 520 00:26:25,951 --> 00:26:28,291 - My name is Alex Merkin. I'm a director. 521 00:26:28,386 --> 00:26:29,956 I directed Brittany Murphy 522 00:26:30,055 --> 00:26:32,215 in the film "Across the Hall" in 2008. 523 00:26:32,290 --> 00:26:34,560 "Across the Hall" was my first feature film. 524 00:26:34,626 --> 00:26:36,086 When we sat down and we met, 525 00:26:36,161 --> 00:26:38,001 she was incredibly engaged in the material. 526 00:26:38,096 --> 00:26:41,566 She was so enthusiastic, so bright. 527 00:26:41,633 --> 00:26:43,673 There's this energy that's very infectious. 528 00:26:43,768 --> 00:26:47,408 In the meeting, I felt confident in her dedication 529 00:26:47,472 --> 00:26:49,612 to the material and her excitement for it. 530 00:26:49,674 --> 00:26:52,344 - ♪ Shine in my backyard someday ♪ 531 00:26:52,444 --> 00:26:56,314 - B15, 66 apple. Take one, mark. 532 00:26:56,414 --> 00:26:59,354 - ♪ I'm going down ♪ - Cut. 533 00:26:59,451 --> 00:27:03,661 - I did start to feel some red flags. 534 00:27:03,755 --> 00:27:05,815 First day, Brittany's coming set, 535 00:27:05,924 --> 00:27:07,694 she's three hours late. 536 00:27:07,792 --> 00:27:10,632 And I went to her trailer, 537 00:27:10,695 --> 00:27:14,765 and Simon Monjack ordered an egg sandwich off of me. 538 00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:17,603 He seemed--he seemed fairly out of it. 539 00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:19,339 He seemed to not exactly know 540 00:27:19,437 --> 00:27:22,137 who he's talking to or where he was. 541 00:27:22,207 --> 00:27:24,177 And yeah, I was concerned about it. 542 00:27:24,275 --> 00:27:25,675 I was definitely concerned about it. 543 00:27:25,777 --> 00:27:28,347 I say, I say, "He's here. He's at the hotel. 544 00:27:28,446 --> 00:27:29,876 How did he find us? Or how did he--" 545 00:27:29,981 --> 00:27:31,651 - Yea, how did he-- - Set. 546 00:27:31,716 --> 00:27:33,216 - How did he find me here? 547 00:27:33,318 --> 00:27:34,788 - And... - Oh, I'm sorry. 548 00:27:34,853 --> 00:27:36,223 Hold on one second, please. Sorry. 549 00:27:36,321 --> 00:27:37,961 - There would often be times 550 00:27:38,023 --> 00:27:39,863 where she just completely didn't know the lines, 551 00:27:39,958 --> 00:27:41,528 and I'd be feeding her the line 552 00:27:41,626 --> 00:27:43,056 or the actor would have to feed her the line. 553 00:27:43,161 --> 00:27:46,361 - He didn't screw it up at all. - Line. 554 00:27:46,464 --> 00:27:49,574 - I think you get off on fucking him over. 555 00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:51,998 - No, you mean everything in the world to him. 556 00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:55,370 More than I ever could. 557 00:27:55,473 --> 00:27:58,083 We'll take it from here. Keep rolling, please. 558 00:27:58,176 --> 00:27:59,706 - The other thing that I was seeing 559 00:27:59,811 --> 00:28:02,581 was that Brittany would come to set 560 00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:05,251 and she'd be in a really good space. 561 00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:11,360 And then I would see her, you know, go off with Simon 562 00:28:11,423 --> 00:28:13,933 and spend some time, and when she came back, 563 00:28:14,025 --> 00:28:16,225 I felt a stark change in her mood. 564 00:28:20,732 --> 00:28:23,202 - It would be like Jekyll and Hyde 565 00:28:23,268 --> 00:28:25,238 from the moment she had interacted with him. 566 00:28:25,336 --> 00:28:27,366 I mean, I learned that she didn't have access 567 00:28:27,439 --> 00:28:28,869 to her own email address. 568 00:28:28,940 --> 00:28:31,410 I learned she had no access to her own phone. 569 00:28:31,509 --> 00:28:34,879 And if I wanted to reach her, I had to reach her through him. 570 00:28:34,946 --> 00:28:38,116 It felt to me a lot like he was planting this insecurity 571 00:28:38,216 --> 00:28:39,576 and this fear into her. 572 00:28:39,684 --> 00:28:41,054 - That's a cut. 573 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:42,749 - I'm so sorry. 574 00:28:45,056 --> 00:28:46,686 - Yeah, let's go. 575 00:28:46,758 --> 00:28:49,858 - We had a scene to film with her, they embrace. 576 00:28:49,928 --> 00:28:51,528 There's some short kissing, 577 00:28:51,596 --> 00:28:54,226 and then they fall out of frame, and that's it. 578 00:28:54,299 --> 00:28:58,239 And I had to spend time on the set with her 579 00:28:58,303 --> 00:29:00,443 fighting where she was not gonna do any scenes 580 00:29:00,538 --> 00:29:03,238 that depict any kind of intimacy 581 00:29:03,308 --> 00:29:05,138 with anybody other than her husband. 582 00:29:05,243 --> 00:29:09,613 She sold it to me as this thing that she could not do 583 00:29:09,714 --> 00:29:14,494 because she's evolved into this magical relationship. 584 00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:16,756 This is actually the moment where I was-- 585 00:29:16,821 --> 00:29:18,621 I was ready to replace her. 586 00:29:18,723 --> 00:29:20,893 I went outside with one of the producers, 587 00:29:20,959 --> 00:29:24,629 and I saw Simon Monjack. 588 00:29:24,729 --> 00:29:27,729 And I intentionally loudly said, 589 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:30,239 "We're gonna just have to go with somebody else." 590 00:29:30,301 --> 00:29:32,501 I wanted him to hear it. 591 00:29:32,604 --> 00:29:34,144 And he did. 592 00:29:34,239 --> 00:29:37,079 And he started to panic, and he came up to me. 593 00:29:37,142 --> 00:29:39,812 He said, "Hey, listen, we can-- we can work this out. 594 00:29:39,911 --> 00:29:42,781 "She'll do whatever you want to do. 595 00:29:42,847 --> 00:29:47,187 Let me go speak with her and we'll get this all worked out." 596 00:29:51,422 --> 00:29:53,532 - Hey. - Hey. 597 00:30:06,137 --> 00:30:08,337 - I do love him. 598 00:30:13,611 --> 00:30:17,121 I wanted to make sure that it was my love 599 00:30:17,182 --> 00:30:19,022 that I was feeling, 600 00:30:19,117 --> 00:30:23,687 and not--not just his love. 601 00:30:24,622 --> 00:30:26,362 - There was something, 602 00:30:26,457 --> 00:30:29,487 I don't want to say worshiping about their relationship, 603 00:30:29,561 --> 00:30:32,831 but it did feel like it bordered on that. 604 00:30:35,066 --> 00:30:36,896 - It's something that felt completely unhealthy, 605 00:30:37,001 --> 00:30:39,971 something that felt delusional on some level, 606 00:30:40,038 --> 00:30:43,208 a manipulative ploy on his part to control her 607 00:30:43,308 --> 00:30:46,138 and to keep his hooks in her. 608 00:30:46,211 --> 00:30:48,811 - This isn't me. 609 00:30:52,984 --> 00:30:56,324 This--this isn't me. 610 00:30:56,387 --> 00:30:58,417 Jules. 611 00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:03,699 - We heard that he was controlling. 612 00:31:03,761 --> 00:31:06,101 Is that something you would agree with? 613 00:31:06,197 --> 00:31:08,367 - Well, only to say that when I saw them together, 614 00:31:08,433 --> 00:31:09,773 they were very much in love. 615 00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:12,238 It's a very fine line, isn't it, 616 00:31:12,337 --> 00:31:13,707 between controlling somebody 617 00:31:13,771 --> 00:31:17,741 and managing them to have the best career? 618 00:31:17,842 --> 00:31:19,412 I don't know. 619 00:31:19,510 --> 00:31:23,620 - Do you think that how Simon presented himself to Brittany, 620 00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:26,615 he exaggerated things to her? 621 00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:28,918 - Um, I don't know how I can answer that. 622 00:31:29,020 --> 00:31:30,720 - There's a chance. 623 00:31:30,788 --> 00:31:33,258 - I know he wasn't in the market to hurt anybody. 624 00:31:33,358 --> 00:31:36,088 You know, people do believe what they want to believe. 625 00:31:36,194 --> 00:31:37,934 You hear what you want to hear. 626 00:31:38,029 --> 00:31:41,769 You react to what you want to hear from that other person, 627 00:31:41,866 --> 00:31:46,266 and I think that's--you know. 628 00:31:52,143 --> 00:31:54,113 - Less than a week after Simon passes away, 629 00:31:54,212 --> 00:31:56,282 Sharon calls me up to the house 630 00:31:56,381 --> 00:31:58,281 and she brings out this jewelry, 631 00:31:58,383 --> 00:32:01,493 diamond rings, bracelets, necklaces. 632 00:32:01,586 --> 00:32:03,446 And she says, "I need cash. 633 00:32:03,554 --> 00:32:05,564 So I want you to take this and sell it." 634 00:32:05,623 --> 00:32:07,633 I said, "I represent two jewelry designers 635 00:32:07,725 --> 00:32:11,255 on Rodeo Drive." 636 00:32:11,329 --> 00:32:13,099 And so I took everything 637 00:32:13,164 --> 00:32:15,234 and I went to the first jewelry designer client 638 00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:17,800 and I said, "Well, what's it worth?" 639 00:32:17,902 --> 00:32:20,472 And he just took the thing out of his eye and he said, 640 00:32:20,571 --> 00:32:22,141 "None of it's real." 641 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,840 So I take it and I go to my other jewelry client. 642 00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:26,813 I said, "Can you tell me how much this jewelry is worth?" 643 00:32:26,911 --> 00:32:28,481 He takes the thing out, puts in his eye, 644 00:32:28,579 --> 00:32:30,319 and he's looking at it, he's looking at. 645 00:32:30,415 --> 00:32:33,415 He said, "Roger, I'm so sorry, none of this is real." 646 00:32:33,484 --> 00:32:36,454 And I started realizing, "Oh, my gosh. 647 00:32:36,521 --> 00:32:40,261 "He has lied to Sharon. She's gonna be devastated. 648 00:32:40,325 --> 00:32:42,125 "She thinks she's got a million dollars 649 00:32:42,193 --> 00:32:43,263 just in one piece." 650 00:32:43,328 --> 00:32:44,798 So I get back to the house. 651 00:32:44,862 --> 00:32:46,362 And she looked at me like, "What is it? 652 00:32:46,464 --> 00:32:48,134 Why is this jewelry here?" 653 00:32:48,199 --> 00:32:50,669 I said, "I just have to tell you, none of it's real." 654 00:32:50,768 --> 00:32:52,968 And her face, 655 00:32:53,037 --> 00:32:54,507 she didn't have to say anything, 656 00:32:54,605 --> 00:32:55,805 'cause her face said at all. 657 00:32:55,873 --> 00:32:57,183 She said, "Well, I guess 658 00:32:57,275 --> 00:32:58,705 "there's no property either then. 659 00:32:58,810 --> 00:33:00,350 "I guess there's no stocks and bonds, 660 00:33:00,445 --> 00:33:02,345 and I guess there's no real estate." 661 00:33:02,447 --> 00:33:05,517 Simon went through 3 million of Brittany's dollars 662 00:33:05,616 --> 00:33:06,946 in three years, 663 00:33:07,018 --> 00:33:08,618 a million a year in three years. 664 00:33:08,686 --> 00:33:11,686 Sharon thinks she's got financial security. 665 00:33:11,789 --> 00:33:13,319 She has nothing. 666 00:33:13,391 --> 00:33:17,201 All she's left with is the house, 667 00:33:17,295 --> 00:33:19,225 Brittany's pension, 668 00:33:19,330 --> 00:33:21,630 and whatever was in the bank. 669 00:33:21,699 --> 00:33:23,869 She was devastated. 670 00:33:23,968 --> 00:33:26,868 She was devastated. 671 00:33:26,971 --> 00:33:29,741 - He owed me a lot of money for a long time. 672 00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:31,241 It's funny, in Hollywood, 673 00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:32,982 you don't need to threaten violence. 674 00:33:33,044 --> 00:33:34,984 You just need to threaten publicity. 675 00:33:35,046 --> 00:33:37,676 I told him I was going to the press. 676 00:33:37,749 --> 00:33:40,849 And then I got a check for the whole amount. 677 00:33:40,918 --> 00:33:42,688 He had been running for a long time. 678 00:33:42,754 --> 00:33:44,324 There was things he did in other states, 679 00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:47,729 used fake names, stole money, bounced checks. 680 00:33:47,825 --> 00:33:50,185 And then when he became this public figure because 681 00:33:50,261 --> 00:33:53,061 he was with Brittany Murphy now, people could find him. 682 00:33:53,164 --> 00:33:55,434 So all the people that he screwed over all of a sudden, 683 00:33:55,533 --> 00:33:59,543 "Oh, I know where he is." Very simple. 684 00:33:59,604 --> 00:34:02,274 - Once I was told certain things, 685 00:34:02,373 --> 00:34:03,743 everything else made sense to me. 686 00:34:03,841 --> 00:34:05,241 I was putting a puzzle together, 687 00:34:05,343 --> 00:34:08,053 a jigsaw puzzle, very complicated puzzle. 688 00:34:08,112 --> 00:34:10,352 And the more information I got, 689 00:34:10,415 --> 00:34:14,745 the more everything else that happened made sense. 690 00:34:14,852 --> 00:34:17,622 He had all these secrets. 691 00:34:17,722 --> 00:34:20,932 None of--nobody knew about, all these little secrets. 692 00:34:21,025 --> 00:34:23,085 And if something started come to the surface, 693 00:34:23,194 --> 00:34:24,734 "It's absurd. It's crazy." 694 00:34:24,796 --> 00:34:28,296 He would, "No, they're lying. It's not true." 695 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:30,639 Brittany and Sharon believed him. 696 00:34:30,735 --> 00:34:35,135 And what we find out later, we find out that he had a child 697 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,769 that Brittany didn't know about, 698 00:34:36,874 --> 00:34:38,314 that none of us knew that he had a child. 699 00:34:38,409 --> 00:34:40,079 He was putting that child through private school 700 00:34:40,144 --> 00:34:41,584 in England. 701 00:34:41,646 --> 00:34:43,576 So I'm sure quite a bit of money of Brittany's 702 00:34:43,648 --> 00:34:45,548 went to the child. 703 00:34:45,616 --> 00:34:48,386 - The interesting thing about Simon's personal life 704 00:34:48,453 --> 00:34:50,763 is how little I think Brittany really knew about it. 705 00:34:50,822 --> 00:34:52,892 When he died, it started coming out. 706 00:34:52,957 --> 00:34:54,657 So he had a daughter in England, 707 00:34:54,759 --> 00:34:56,559 by then she was a teenager. 708 00:34:56,627 --> 00:34:59,157 But what people didn't know was that through my reporting, 709 00:34:59,263 --> 00:35:01,173 I had gotten in touch with a woman who lived in France, 710 00:35:01,265 --> 00:35:02,965 and she had had a son with him. 711 00:35:03,067 --> 00:35:06,297 He had a child that nobody was talking about 712 00:35:06,404 --> 00:35:10,144 and nobody really knew about. 713 00:35:13,611 --> 00:35:15,151 - Excuse me? 714 00:35:15,246 --> 00:35:17,316 - There's a second child. - I didn't know that. 715 00:35:17,415 --> 00:35:19,345 Uh-uh. I only know about one child. 716 00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:22,350 There was a second child? Wow. 717 00:35:24,856 --> 00:35:27,426 - My name is Elizabeth Ragsdale. 718 00:35:27,492 --> 00:35:29,692 I knew Simon. 719 00:35:29,794 --> 00:35:33,134 I was engaged to him, and I have his child. 720 00:35:33,197 --> 00:35:37,027 And so it's time now to tell my story. 721 00:35:42,773 --> 00:35:45,713 So the night that I met Simon, it was, like, 722 00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:48,010 probably one of the strongest times in my life. 723 00:35:48,112 --> 00:35:50,852 I'd financed myself an apartment in Paris. 724 00:35:50,948 --> 00:35:53,048 I was gonna write my book. 725 00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:55,191 A friend, she called me up and said, 726 00:35:55,286 --> 00:35:56,846 "You gotta meet this guy." 727 00:35:56,954 --> 00:35:59,464 I'm like, "Okay, I'll come." 728 00:35:59,524 --> 00:36:02,194 So he had a car come and get me. 729 00:36:02,293 --> 00:36:04,363 I just immediately was intrigued 730 00:36:04,462 --> 00:36:06,562 with his dark chocolate eyes. 731 00:36:06,664 --> 00:36:11,004 I just felt like he could see all the way down into my soul. 732 00:36:11,068 --> 00:36:16,008 He wanted to see me the next night. 733 00:36:16,841 --> 00:36:21,481 And I stayed the next night, so... 734 00:36:21,546 --> 00:36:23,706 I never left him again. 735 00:36:25,183 --> 00:36:28,223 He proposed to me in Harrods department store, 736 00:36:28,319 --> 00:36:30,019 and he called me on the phone. 737 00:36:30,087 --> 00:36:32,817 And I answered it, and he said, "Look behind you." 738 00:36:32,890 --> 00:36:36,860 And I turned around, and he was on one knee. 739 00:36:36,928 --> 00:36:39,898 And he had a Tiffany's bag. 740 00:36:39,997 --> 00:36:43,327 He took a box out of it and a crowd gathered around, 741 00:36:43,401 --> 00:36:45,601 and he--he said, 742 00:36:45,703 --> 00:36:48,273 "Elizabeth Ragsdale, will you marry me?" 743 00:36:48,372 --> 00:36:51,912 And, um... 744 00:36:52,009 --> 00:36:56,179 and I said, "Yes, yes, I will." 745 00:36:58,683 --> 00:37:01,723 Simon tearfully told me one night 746 00:37:01,786 --> 00:37:04,386 after I would not make love with him 747 00:37:04,455 --> 00:37:07,255 that he had spinal cancer 748 00:37:07,358 --> 00:37:09,758 and that he was gonna have to go 749 00:37:09,860 --> 00:37:13,260 to have this shark cartilage treatment in Monaco. 750 00:37:13,364 --> 00:37:15,234 So of course, I break down 751 00:37:15,299 --> 00:37:19,539 because the love of my life has cancer, 752 00:37:19,604 --> 00:37:21,074 I find out all of a sudden, 753 00:37:21,138 --> 00:37:26,608 and, you know, so everything changes, 754 00:37:26,711 --> 00:37:30,451 and then we have sex 755 00:37:30,548 --> 00:37:31,948 after that. 756 00:37:32,049 --> 00:37:34,319 - So he got what he wanted? - He got what he wanted. 757 00:37:34,418 --> 00:37:37,558 He was very rough. 758 00:37:40,992 --> 00:37:44,132 It wasn't always when I wanted to. 759 00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:53,970 He said that we had to get pregnant 760 00:37:54,071 --> 00:37:56,111 if we were gonna have our own children 761 00:37:56,173 --> 00:37:58,183 because the shark cartilage treatments 762 00:37:58,276 --> 00:37:59,976 would make him sterile. 763 00:38:00,077 --> 00:38:02,977 I was really sick in Monaco 764 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,350 in the beginning of the pregnancy. 765 00:38:05,449 --> 00:38:08,319 It was just severe nausea, 766 00:38:08,419 --> 00:38:10,589 where I couldn't raise my head. 767 00:38:10,655 --> 00:38:13,355 So I wanted to fly my sister and everybody over. 768 00:38:13,457 --> 00:38:18,997 "No, no, no, no, I don't want any people around right now." 769 00:38:21,198 --> 00:38:23,528 Then my friend who, 770 00:38:23,634 --> 00:38:26,704 she's not the type to take no for an answer 771 00:38:26,804 --> 00:38:28,544 and she was also very worried about me 772 00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:30,939 'cause I'd been cut off from everybody, 773 00:38:31,008 --> 00:38:35,178 and she showed up at the villa, and she said, you know, 774 00:38:35,279 --> 00:38:39,349 "You look like you've just come out of a concentration camp." 775 00:38:39,450 --> 00:38:43,690 And she tells Simon, "If you do not get her to a doctor, 776 00:38:43,788 --> 00:38:45,618 then I'm taking her now." 777 00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:47,020 And he said, "I will." 778 00:38:47,124 --> 00:38:50,704 But I believe that my friend saved my life. 779 00:38:52,863 --> 00:38:56,873 He said, "I want for you to have the baby on U.S. soil." 780 00:38:56,967 --> 00:39:01,507 So Simon got me to New York, and he was in Monaco. 781 00:39:01,572 --> 00:39:03,712 You know, he got my ticket and everything, 782 00:39:03,808 --> 00:39:06,008 and I got there and I got up into my little studio, 783 00:39:06,077 --> 00:39:08,007 and I called him to tell him I was there. 784 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:10,549 And I said, "Simon, I've made it, I'm here in--" 785 00:39:10,648 --> 00:39:13,148 Click, he hung up on me. 786 00:39:13,217 --> 00:39:16,887 And then trying to call him back a million times 787 00:39:16,987 --> 00:39:19,687 and realizing he's just not picking up 788 00:39:19,757 --> 00:39:21,927 or something's happened to him or something's wrong. 789 00:39:22,026 --> 00:39:23,826 And I started looking for ways 790 00:39:23,894 --> 00:39:25,564 to get in touch with his mother. 791 00:39:25,663 --> 00:39:27,733 And I found his mother, and she told me 792 00:39:27,832 --> 00:39:30,432 that he didn't have spinal cancer 793 00:39:30,534 --> 00:39:33,504 and that he had been using her money for that. 794 00:39:33,571 --> 00:39:35,571 But she was furious with him. 795 00:39:35,673 --> 00:39:37,743 The owner of the villa told me 796 00:39:37,842 --> 00:39:41,752 that he was already with somebody else. 797 00:39:41,846 --> 00:39:45,516 I thought about, um... 798 00:39:45,583 --> 00:39:47,923 killing myself 799 00:39:48,018 --> 00:39:50,548 because I didn't-- 800 00:39:50,621 --> 00:39:54,131 Who does that? I mean-- 801 00:39:54,225 --> 00:40:00,555 And then the reason I didn't is because of the baby. 802 00:40:12,042 --> 00:40:14,282 After not being in touch for a long time, 803 00:40:14,378 --> 00:40:16,778 I worked in Paris and lived outside Paris. 804 00:40:16,881 --> 00:40:19,151 And so I was on the train coming home from work, 805 00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:22,390 reading a magazine, there was a little picture that said, 806 00:40:22,453 --> 00:40:23,953 "Brittany Murphy has married." 807 00:40:24,054 --> 00:40:26,794 And it was Simon. He got in touch with me. 808 00:40:26,891 --> 00:40:29,331 He offered, at that point, to buy me a house, 809 00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:31,127 and we talked for a little while, 810 00:40:31,228 --> 00:40:33,258 and that one ended with him 811 00:40:33,330 --> 00:40:35,470 threatening to come and get my son. 812 00:40:35,566 --> 00:40:37,126 So I was quiet. 813 00:40:37,234 --> 00:40:39,274 That, I believe, was his intention 814 00:40:39,336 --> 00:40:41,006 was to try to keep me quiet 815 00:40:41,105 --> 00:40:43,605 because the stakes were a lot higher with him 816 00:40:43,674 --> 00:40:45,314 being married to Brittany. 817 00:40:45,409 --> 00:40:46,809 He didn't need anybody to know 818 00:40:46,911 --> 00:40:50,651 that I was out there with his son. 819 00:40:50,748 --> 00:40:53,318 I know why Brittany chose Simon. 820 00:40:53,417 --> 00:40:56,817 He worked his spell on her. 821 00:40:56,921 --> 00:40:59,261 And she fell for it like I did. 822 00:41:01,125 --> 00:41:03,985 - Everything is a lie? 823 00:41:04,094 --> 00:41:05,364 Everything is a lie. 824 00:41:07,031 --> 00:41:10,371 Every--every--everything-- everything is a lie. 825 00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:12,598 - Don't take it personally, Mare. 826 00:41:12,670 --> 00:41:13,670 Mare Bear. 827 00:41:13,771 --> 00:41:15,371 - Don't touch me. 828 00:41:15,473 --> 00:41:21,213 - The man you fell in love with is not real. 829 00:41:25,950 --> 00:41:29,020 - So, you know, we did speak to Elizabeth Ragsdale, 830 00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:31,859 Elijah's mom. 831 00:41:31,956 --> 00:41:33,486 - Well, he never acknowledged-- 832 00:41:33,557 --> 00:41:38,497 you do know that he never acknowledged his existence. 833 00:41:38,562 --> 00:41:40,162 When you look at Elijah, 834 00:41:40,231 --> 00:41:41,971 you can see there's a likeness, 835 00:41:42,032 --> 00:41:45,172 but what I'm saying is that it's very difficult 836 00:41:45,236 --> 00:41:48,066 to acknowledge something that you don't know. 837 00:41:48,172 --> 00:41:50,712 - There's this story about the shark fin treatments. 838 00:41:50,808 --> 00:41:52,508 Was there any truth to any of that? 839 00:41:52,576 --> 00:41:56,846 - He was terribly fearful that his father got cancer at 29. 840 00:41:56,914 --> 00:41:59,224 I certainly don't think he went out to tell people, 841 00:41:59,316 --> 00:42:01,186 "I have cancer." I think he believed it. 842 00:42:01,252 --> 00:42:04,022 - We heard that Simon had actually 843 00:42:04,088 --> 00:42:06,488 swindled money off of you. 844 00:42:06,557 --> 00:42:09,327 - He never swindled money from me. 845 00:42:09,393 --> 00:42:13,033 I gave him money, copious amounts of money, 846 00:42:13,097 --> 00:42:17,067 but I just gave it willingly and freely, probably foolishly. 847 00:42:17,167 --> 00:42:23,267 But nevertheless, he didn't-- he didn't cheat me. 848 00:42:38,055 --> 00:42:39,415 - Simon and Brittany 849 00:42:39,523 --> 00:42:41,393 were basically locked up in that house. 850 00:42:41,458 --> 00:42:43,428 They did these really weird photoshoots 851 00:42:43,527 --> 00:42:44,897 in the middle of the night 852 00:42:44,962 --> 00:42:47,202 where he would dress her like a doll. 853 00:42:47,264 --> 00:42:51,274 He encouraged her to become addicted to plastic surgery. 854 00:42:51,368 --> 00:42:53,268 He would tell her, "Your teeth aren't right. 855 00:42:53,370 --> 00:42:54,810 "Your nose isn't right. 856 00:42:54,905 --> 00:42:56,805 We might need to do something with your chin." 857 00:42:56,907 --> 00:42:58,977 And she became increasingly insecure about her appearance, 858 00:42:59,076 --> 00:43:02,576 increasingly paranoid about people being out to get her. 859 00:43:03,981 --> 00:43:07,551 Simon had the landlines disconnected. 860 00:43:07,618 --> 00:43:10,418 So the only way you could reach Sharon or Brittany 861 00:43:10,487 --> 00:43:11,987 was through Simon. 862 00:43:12,089 --> 00:43:14,629 Simon and Brittany would stay up late nights 863 00:43:14,725 --> 00:43:16,785 and take downers and then chug coffee 864 00:43:16,894 --> 00:43:18,664 and take uppers to come back up. 865 00:43:18,762 --> 00:43:20,972 And, you know, they rarely left the house. 866 00:43:21,065 --> 00:43:23,925 - I remember I was at some show, 867 00:43:24,001 --> 00:43:25,801 like 40 minutes into it, 868 00:43:25,903 --> 00:43:29,813 she shows up scooting through the seats with Simon 869 00:43:29,907 --> 00:43:31,677 with, like, bleary eyes, 870 00:43:31,775 --> 00:43:34,645 and I just didn't recognize her anymore. 871 00:43:34,745 --> 00:43:40,815 Brittany was just cloudy and gone. 872 00:43:40,918 --> 00:43:46,188 - It was alarming to see how thin she had gotten. 873 00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:48,130 Emaciated. 874 00:43:48,192 --> 00:43:51,132 She was so frail. 875 00:43:51,195 --> 00:43:54,425 - When I saw Brittany Murphy getting really thin, 876 00:43:54,498 --> 00:43:57,198 I knew that he had something to do with that. 877 00:43:57,301 --> 00:43:59,841 He loved anorexic women. 878 00:43:59,937 --> 00:44:04,507 He would look at me from behind in my jeans and he would go, 879 00:44:04,608 --> 00:44:07,138 "Do you really think you need to wear those jeans? 880 00:44:07,211 --> 00:44:11,351 Because, you know, you look kind of--" 881 00:44:11,448 --> 00:44:12,878 - He was everything. 882 00:44:12,983 --> 00:44:15,193 He was the agent. He was the manager. 883 00:44:15,285 --> 00:44:16,785 He was the makeup artist. 884 00:44:16,854 --> 00:44:18,864 Nobody touched her. Nobody got close to her. 885 00:44:18,956 --> 00:44:20,016 It was all him. 886 00:44:20,124 --> 00:44:21,534 When the offers are drying up 887 00:44:21,625 --> 00:44:23,525 because you got going around town, 888 00:44:23,627 --> 00:44:25,027 "Don't deal with Brittany 889 00:44:25,129 --> 00:44:26,699 because her husband's a lunatic," 890 00:44:26,797 --> 00:44:28,367 he took what he could get. 891 00:44:28,465 --> 00:44:30,365 - If you look at someone who just a few years ago 892 00:44:30,467 --> 00:44:32,537 was in really iconic movies, 893 00:44:32,636 --> 00:44:34,406 I mean, "Eight Mile," "Clueless." 894 00:44:34,505 --> 00:44:36,905 These are movies that will stand the test of time, 895 00:44:37,007 --> 00:44:39,877 to then be in thrillers and slashers 896 00:44:39,977 --> 00:44:42,477 that are going straight to video, 897 00:44:42,546 --> 00:44:45,046 it looks like failure. 898 00:44:45,149 --> 00:44:47,379 - Mark. 899 00:44:47,484 --> 00:44:48,724 - I'm Trista Jordan. 900 00:44:48,819 --> 00:44:50,849 I am a celebrity makeup artist. 901 00:44:50,921 --> 00:44:56,031 And I was the last one to film with Brittany. 902 00:44:56,093 --> 00:44:58,703 When I got to that set, I was told her husband 903 00:44:58,762 --> 00:45:00,332 was gonna be her makeup artist. 904 00:45:00,397 --> 00:45:01,767 So it's day one. 905 00:45:01,865 --> 00:45:05,895 I rushed to set just to find a makeup disaster. 906 00:45:07,371 --> 00:45:10,771 Simon had taken a red tube of lipstick 907 00:45:10,874 --> 00:45:13,444 and had drawn lips 908 00:45:13,544 --> 00:45:15,914 outside her natural lip line like a clown. 909 00:45:16,013 --> 00:45:19,783 Her blush was lopsided. Her hair was greasy. 910 00:45:19,883 --> 00:45:21,453 Your job as a makeup artist 911 00:45:21,552 --> 00:45:22,922 is you're looking behind the monitor 912 00:45:23,020 --> 00:45:24,760 to see if things are changing. 913 00:45:24,855 --> 00:45:27,355 And watching Simon, he wasn't looking in the monitor. 914 00:45:27,424 --> 00:45:29,064 He was looking straight ahead. 915 00:45:29,126 --> 00:45:31,096 He was in a catatonic state, 916 00:45:31,195 --> 00:45:33,025 and I snapped my fingers in front of his face 917 00:45:33,097 --> 00:45:35,767 to see if he'd react, and he didn't even flinch. 918 00:45:35,866 --> 00:45:38,766 I've been around thousands of actors 919 00:45:38,869 --> 00:45:41,439 and never seen someone that thin. 920 00:45:41,538 --> 00:45:43,268 Her elbows. 921 00:45:43,373 --> 00:45:46,043 And getting out of a chair, she looked like Bambi. 922 00:45:46,110 --> 00:45:48,110 She just seemed like she was in pain, 923 00:45:48,212 --> 00:45:50,112 especially when she moved. 924 00:45:50,214 --> 00:45:51,984 I think she was sick. 925 00:45:52,082 --> 00:45:53,922 She didn't care if her hair was messed up. 926 00:45:53,984 --> 00:45:55,394 She didn't ask for a mirror. 927 00:45:55,452 --> 00:45:57,652 And that's unusual in Hollywood. 928 00:45:57,755 --> 00:46:00,955 I just think she lost the ability to care. 929 00:46:01,058 --> 00:46:02,888 She was a disaster in her heart, 930 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,800 and she was a disaster emotionally and physically. 931 00:46:28,285 --> 00:46:31,455 - We found that, evidently, Simon got involved. 932 00:46:31,522 --> 00:46:33,992 I don't know if he slapped somebody or hit somebody, 933 00:46:34,091 --> 00:46:35,591 and she got fired. 934 00:46:35,659 --> 00:46:38,429 And that's why they came back early. 935 00:46:38,495 --> 00:46:41,325 - It was reported this week that actress Brittany Murphy 936 00:46:41,431 --> 00:46:43,501 was fired from her upcoming film "The Caller" 937 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,100 for being a detriment to production and--oh, no. 938 00:46:47,171 --> 00:46:49,511 - Seth... 939 00:46:49,606 --> 00:46:50,836 - Brittany Murphy. 940 00:46:50,941 --> 00:46:52,541 - Yeah. 941 00:46:52,643 --> 00:46:54,283 They fired me. 942 00:46:54,344 --> 00:46:57,114 Yeah. 943 00:47:00,884 --> 00:47:05,294 - In Puerto Rico, they became ill with flu-like symptoms. 944 00:47:05,355 --> 00:47:07,315 They had flown back. 945 00:47:07,391 --> 00:47:10,531 Brittany started showing signs of not feeling good, 946 00:47:10,627 --> 00:47:12,997 but they were treating her sickness 947 00:47:13,063 --> 00:47:15,703 with over-the-counter medications. 948 00:47:15,799 --> 00:47:17,469 And, you know, after a few days, 949 00:47:17,534 --> 00:47:20,204 if the over-the-counter medications aren't working, 950 00:47:20,304 --> 00:47:25,214 you know, seek a professional diagnosis on what's going on. 951 00:47:25,309 --> 00:47:27,909 According to the information that we got, 952 00:47:28,011 --> 00:47:30,511 it was kind of a habit that Simon, 953 00:47:30,581 --> 00:47:33,081 he'd keep her up late, they would order food in 954 00:47:33,183 --> 00:47:34,723 at 2:00 and 3:00 in the morning, 955 00:47:34,818 --> 00:47:37,148 and stay up and watch television. 956 00:47:37,221 --> 00:47:39,061 She'd be exhausted the next day 957 00:47:39,156 --> 00:47:40,816 and she wasn't getting enough rest 958 00:47:40,891 --> 00:47:43,061 and her immune system was dropping. 959 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,900 He just was blanketed around her 960 00:47:44,995 --> 00:47:47,755 and yet didn't remove that blanket 961 00:47:47,865 --> 00:47:51,065 and seek medical attention when she needed it. 962 00:47:51,168 --> 00:47:52,738 - She was a tiny girl. 963 00:47:52,836 --> 00:47:55,366 Your body can only take so much. 964 00:48:05,415 --> 00:48:07,515 - Don't move, ma'am. Don't move. 965 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,420 - The premiere of our film was at the end of 2009. 966 00:48:13,523 --> 00:48:16,193 When I saw her there, she was extremely sweet, 967 00:48:16,260 --> 00:48:19,260 she was extremely proud. 968 00:48:19,363 --> 00:48:22,603 But she was also, felt to me, extremely frail. 969 00:48:27,070 --> 00:48:30,710 - She embraced my hands and her hands were shaky. 970 00:48:30,774 --> 00:48:33,284 She looked very, very, very thin, 971 00:48:33,377 --> 00:48:35,377 like she had lost a lot of weight. 972 00:48:39,149 --> 00:48:42,249 Outside of that, she wasn't acting strangely. 973 00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:44,389 She actually talked to me about children that she was 974 00:48:44,454 --> 00:48:46,894 planning on having, things that were very sweet. 975 00:48:46,957 --> 00:48:50,757 It felt really a lot more like the person that I had met 976 00:48:50,827 --> 00:48:52,897 when we were going into this whole process. 977 00:48:52,963 --> 00:48:54,773 - Thank goodness everyone was kind. 978 00:48:54,831 --> 00:48:58,801 No one generally tends to be in a-- 979 00:48:58,902 --> 00:49:03,172 on a set that's an independent film, 980 00:49:03,273 --> 00:49:07,083 that has a short schedule unless they really want to be. 981 00:49:07,144 --> 00:49:08,454 - What do you think-- 982 00:49:08,512 --> 00:49:10,012 - Everyone wanted to be there, 983 00:49:10,113 --> 00:49:11,923 and that was a pleasure. 984 00:49:14,284 --> 00:49:16,254 - Obviously, the shoot experience 985 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,120 was crazy and chaotic and volatile at times. 986 00:49:19,189 --> 00:49:21,859 But I saw the person that I had originally met with. 987 00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:24,089 It almost felt like it came full circle. 988 00:49:24,161 --> 00:49:25,831 If we were like, let's do another one, 989 00:49:25,929 --> 00:49:28,969 I probably would have been in this weird sort of, 990 00:49:29,032 --> 00:49:31,772 you know, euphoric space with like, 991 00:49:31,835 --> 00:49:33,335 "Oh, this is great, everything's good, 992 00:49:33,437 --> 00:49:35,537 and she's proud and she's here to support." 993 00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:39,039 It turned out to be two weeks before she passed away. 994 00:49:39,142 --> 00:49:43,152 - Thank you. - Thank you. 995 00:49:43,213 --> 00:49:46,323 - On a radio interview in 2009, 996 00:49:46,383 --> 00:49:50,953 somebody asked me to make a prediction of who would die, 997 00:49:51,021 --> 00:49:53,221 what celebrity would pass away. 998 00:49:53,323 --> 00:49:56,233 And I said Brittany Murphy. 999 00:49:58,328 --> 00:50:02,568 And all these years later now, I just-- 1000 00:50:02,666 --> 00:50:06,836 I regret saying that, just putting that energy out there. 1001 00:50:06,903 --> 00:50:09,543 It's gross. 1002 00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:11,339 Gross of the interviewer 1003 00:50:11,408 --> 00:50:14,408 and gross of me for giving a response. 1004 00:50:16,513 --> 00:50:20,383 But that's definitely telling of the time. 1005 00:50:20,484 --> 00:50:25,564 2009, in many ways, was a very gross time. 1006 00:50:30,594 --> 00:50:32,064 - 197. 1007 00:50:32,162 --> 00:50:33,562 What's the address of the emergency? 1008 00:50:33,663 --> 00:50:36,233 - 1895 Rising Glen Road. 1009 00:50:36,333 --> 00:50:37,903 - Tell me exactly what happened. 1010 00:50:38,001 --> 00:50:40,371 - My daughter's passed out. 1011 00:50:40,437 --> 00:50:42,907 She's--they're doing mouth to mouth. 1012 00:50:43,006 --> 00:50:44,536 Please get here. Please, please. 1013 00:50:46,209 --> 00:50:49,909 - My husband came in, he said I have bad news. 1014 00:50:50,013 --> 00:50:54,083 And I said, "Did Brittany die?" 1015 00:50:54,184 --> 00:50:56,254 And he said, "Yes." 1016 00:50:59,222 --> 00:51:03,532 And I just felt so-- I felt bad for her. 1017 00:51:03,593 --> 00:51:06,803 But I also felt, 1018 00:51:06,897 --> 00:51:08,767 why didn't I just go over there 1019 00:51:08,865 --> 00:51:11,465 and knock on the door all day long? 1020 00:51:18,375 --> 00:51:21,745 And just have her hate me or call the police 1021 00:51:21,812 --> 00:51:25,382 but just knock on that door and take her away. 1022 00:51:31,788 --> 00:51:34,958 - You know, I ofttimes think about Sharon too, 1023 00:51:35,058 --> 00:51:37,988 just hoping she's okay, 1024 00:51:38,095 --> 00:51:39,655 'cause when I had been to the house, 1025 00:51:39,763 --> 00:51:41,633 she would walk by Brittany's clothes 1026 00:51:41,731 --> 00:51:43,301 and she would smell the clothes. 1027 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,840 But I remember when she finally 1028 00:51:44,935 --> 00:51:46,635 got all of Brittany's clothes together 1029 00:51:46,736 --> 00:51:50,266 and it filled up a whole room and she had a sale. 1030 00:51:50,340 --> 00:51:51,910 She sold them all. 1031 00:51:51,975 --> 00:51:55,575 It took her about a year to be able to do that, 1032 00:51:55,645 --> 00:51:57,175 to come to terms with that. 1033 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,780 The last I heard about Sharon, 1034 00:51:58,849 --> 00:52:01,279 she was living in Southern California, 1035 00:52:01,351 --> 00:52:03,791 but very reclusive. 1036 00:52:03,854 --> 00:52:06,764 She won't return emails or phone calls. 1037 00:52:06,823 --> 00:52:09,863 Sharon was just heartbroken. 1038 00:52:13,363 --> 00:52:15,003 - I had to accept 1039 00:52:15,098 --> 00:52:17,828 there were no answers for me to find in this. 1040 00:52:17,934 --> 00:52:21,174 So I had to kind of step away from it. 1041 00:52:22,272 --> 00:52:24,512 That was difficult for me to do, 1042 00:52:24,608 --> 00:52:25,978 but for a mother to accept 1043 00:52:26,042 --> 00:52:29,052 that she might not fully understand 1044 00:52:29,146 --> 00:52:33,476 what happened to her son can be quite devastating. 1045 00:52:34,851 --> 00:52:38,821 - I can't say why or what happened in that house. 1046 00:52:38,889 --> 00:52:42,189 It became a really awful tragedy 1047 00:52:42,292 --> 00:52:44,362 that should never have happened. 1048 00:52:44,461 --> 00:52:49,971 But the reason why it happened is very difficult to state. 1049 00:52:50,967 --> 00:52:52,867 - I believe that Simon Monjack, 1050 00:52:52,969 --> 00:52:55,739 even if he did not kill Brittany Murphy, 1051 00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:57,969 he allowed her to die 1052 00:52:58,041 --> 00:53:01,551 because he did not get her to the doctor and get her help, 1053 00:53:01,645 --> 00:53:05,875 and I believe that he did the same thing to himself. 1054 00:53:05,982 --> 00:53:08,322 Knowing that he needed medical treatment, 1055 00:53:08,385 --> 00:53:11,245 he didn't get it and he died. 1056 00:53:11,354 --> 00:53:15,734 He would rather be dead than to be discovered 1057 00:53:15,825 --> 00:53:19,025 as the con artist he was. 1058 00:53:20,096 --> 00:53:22,896 - I think if it wasn't for Simon Monjack, 1059 00:53:22,999 --> 00:53:24,729 there's every chance Brittany Murphy 1060 00:53:24,834 --> 00:53:26,404 would still be alive. 1061 00:53:26,503 --> 00:53:28,343 It ultimately is like a very banal story. 1062 00:53:28,405 --> 00:53:30,335 It's just--it really isn't a huge mystery. 1063 00:53:30,407 --> 00:53:34,337 It's just very simple, a predator targeting someone 1064 00:53:34,411 --> 00:53:35,851 at their most vulnerable. 1065 00:53:35,912 --> 00:53:38,282 It was the perfect storm. 1066 00:53:38,381 --> 00:53:40,451 - The cause of death is not a mystery. 1067 00:53:40,550 --> 00:53:44,250 The mystery is why didn't somebody catch it. 1068 00:53:44,354 --> 00:53:46,724 Had they taken her to the doctor a few days before, 1069 00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:49,590 she'd still be alive. 1070 00:53:49,693 --> 00:53:51,903 There are some people that they're not satisfied. 1071 00:53:51,962 --> 00:53:54,562 You know, they think maybe there's more. 1072 00:53:54,631 --> 00:53:56,901 You just have to go on the facts. 1073 00:53:59,436 --> 00:54:01,196 - Why do you just want to settle for, 1074 00:54:01,271 --> 00:54:04,811 "She died of pneumonia, oh, well"? 1075 00:54:04,908 --> 00:54:07,738 It just doesn't make sense. 1076 00:54:07,811 --> 00:54:10,151 - Her death was not accidental, 1077 00:54:10,247 --> 00:54:12,117 and her husband's was not accidental. 1078 00:54:12,215 --> 00:54:14,875 I believe they both were targeted. 1079 00:54:14,951 --> 00:54:18,261 - I think that their autopsies were forged. 1080 00:54:18,321 --> 00:54:19,461 - Something happened. 1081 00:54:19,556 --> 00:54:21,626 Someone must have bribed someone. 1082 00:54:25,562 --> 00:54:28,732 - No, it just--it just doesn't sound right. 1083 00:54:28,798 --> 00:54:30,898 It doesn't even sound like it adds up. 1084 00:54:30,967 --> 00:54:33,937 It just--I'm sorry. It don't add up. 1085 00:54:46,249 --> 00:54:50,189 - Please. Why can't you just let me die? 1086 00:55:05,769 --> 00:55:08,039 - We're gonna get out of here. 1087 00:55:08,138 --> 00:55:09,668 - Where are we gonna go? 1088 00:55:09,773 --> 00:55:14,013 - I don't know, someplace where there's trees and sky, 1089 00:55:14,110 --> 00:55:16,780 we can breathe the fucking air. 1090 00:55:16,846 --> 00:55:18,846 Some place that's not so fucked up. 1091 00:55:50,380 --> 00:55:51,880 Hi, my name is Brittany Murphy, 1092 00:55:51,981 --> 00:55:54,381 and I go to Herbert Hoover Middle School.