1 00:00:02,377 --> 00:00:04,421 CLINT: Six days until Christmas. 2 00:00:04,504 --> 00:00:07,507 We're gonna do a lot of activities. What's your favorite one? 3 00:00:07,590 --> 00:00:09,259 -Gingerbread house. -We're doing that! 4 00:00:11,052 --> 00:00:14,014 -Christmas movie marathon. -CLINT: Movie marathon, awesome! 5 00:00:15,390 --> 00:00:17,726 -Ugly sweaters. -CLINT: Ugly Christmas sweaters! 6 00:00:17,809 --> 00:00:19,978 It's going to be amazing, but most important thing, 7 00:00:20,061 --> 00:00:22,147 we're going to do it all together. 8 00:00:31,573 --> 00:00:35,869 We were in the second half of 2017, and we were in the trailer, 9 00:00:35,952 --> 00:00:38,872 the Marvel trailer, and Endgame was filming, 10 00:00:38,955 --> 00:00:42,459 and we started talking about what the Hawkeye story could be. 11 00:00:45,003 --> 00:00:48,590 We haven't gotten a chance to really tell the Clint Barton story, 12 00:00:48,673 --> 00:00:49,716 tell Hawkeye's story. 13 00:00:49,799 --> 00:00:52,552 Endgame is when you really see that emotional journey 14 00:00:52,635 --> 00:00:54,763 that he started going through with his family, 15 00:00:54,846 --> 00:00:57,724 by losing his family in the Blip, and getting them back, 16 00:00:57,807 --> 00:01:00,310 but in between that time, becoming Ronin. 17 00:01:03,146 --> 00:01:05,190 So, we started sort of breaking the story, 18 00:01:05,273 --> 00:01:07,942 brainstorming ideas, and I remember sitting in that trailer 19 00:01:08,026 --> 00:01:10,195 as we were still shooting Endgame, going, 20 00:01:10,278 --> 00:01:13,740 "God, there's so much great source material from the comics, 21 00:01:13,823 --> 00:01:17,035 "and how am I gonna actually put this all in two hours?" 22 00:01:17,118 --> 00:01:19,954 We thought, "Well, if there's a lot more story to tell, 23 00:01:20,038 --> 00:01:23,291 "why not just move that project over to the Disney Plus side?" 24 00:01:23,374 --> 00:01:24,834 Then you say, "Kate, come on!" 25 00:01:24,918 --> 00:01:27,253 You fire the arrow, then you run to join, 26 00:01:27,337 --> 00:01:28,922 and you go, "Jump!" 27 00:01:30,882 --> 00:01:32,801 The show's got everything that we could want. 28 00:01:32,884 --> 00:01:36,346 So, we've been able to flex, you know, our different muscles, 29 00:01:36,429 --> 00:01:39,224 but just on another scale that, 30 00:01:39,307 --> 00:01:41,309 you know, we hoped we'd get to one day 31 00:01:41,392 --> 00:01:43,895 and, kind of, here we are. 32 00:01:43,978 --> 00:01:48,358 -So that's been, it's been exciting. Yeah. -It's fun crashing cars into each other. 33 00:01:48,441 --> 00:01:49,567 So good. (CHUCKLES) 34 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:53,655 -Almost like, it comes... -As it comes, and I look... 35 00:01:53,738 --> 00:01:56,074 -As it lands, I go in. Okay. -You look, and... Yeah, exactly. 36 00:01:56,157 --> 00:01:57,534 I've found him compelling, 37 00:01:57,617 --> 00:01:59,202 the way Jeremy's played him. 38 00:01:59,327 --> 00:02:01,538 There's a sense of this ordinary guy 39 00:02:01,621 --> 00:02:06,000 that is just driven kind of by this sense of duty more than anything. 40 00:02:06,084 --> 00:02:08,878 He's not... Doesn't have the protection of superpowers, 41 00:02:08,962 --> 00:02:11,381 and I found it interesting that you get to join him, 42 00:02:11,464 --> 00:02:13,967 and you see him in this place where, on the surface, 43 00:02:14,050 --> 00:02:16,761 he's found the peace that possibly he's always wanted, 44 00:02:16,845 --> 00:02:19,973 but you know that there's been this price that's been paid. 45 00:02:20,056 --> 00:02:21,850 When you watch Avengers: Endgame, 46 00:02:22,559 --> 00:02:24,644 obviously, the stakes couldn't be bigger. 47 00:02:24,727 --> 00:02:27,313 This purple guy's gonna snap half the universe away, 48 00:02:27,397 --> 00:02:29,941 and we gotta travel through time to stop him. 49 00:02:30,024 --> 00:02:35,780 But it's because you saw this human being's family disappear 50 00:02:35,864 --> 00:02:39,742 at the beginning, and you can imagine, empathize with him. 51 00:02:39,826 --> 00:02:42,620 That carries you throughout that entire movie. 52 00:02:44,414 --> 00:02:45,456 Let me go. 53 00:02:47,292 --> 00:02:48,293 No. 54 00:02:50,461 --> 00:02:51,462 No! 55 00:02:51,546 --> 00:02:54,340 And it's amazing what happens when you've let, 56 00:02:54,424 --> 00:02:56,217 you know, actors like Jeremy Renner 57 00:02:56,301 --> 00:02:59,470 really have the space to explore their character and their backstory. 58 00:02:59,554 --> 00:03:00,805 I love you guys. 59 00:03:00,889 --> 00:03:02,390 -Love you, too. -Love you, too, Dad. 60 00:03:02,473 --> 00:03:04,893 -Love you... -It's gonna be the best Christmas! 61 00:03:04,976 --> 00:03:07,520 It's been a wonderful way to kind of just 62 00:03:08,188 --> 00:03:13,568 really dig in and discover a lot more of the humanity of who Clint Barton is. 63 00:03:13,651 --> 00:03:15,486 Okay, Kate, what am I selling? 64 00:03:15,570 --> 00:03:17,030 It's obviously not, you know, 65 00:03:17,113 --> 00:03:19,449 Halloween costumes and toys and t-shirts, right? 66 00:03:19,574 --> 00:03:20,575 Inspiration. 67 00:03:20,658 --> 00:03:23,077 RENNER: That's where patience really kind of pans out. 68 00:03:23,161 --> 00:03:25,205 'Cause Thor was just a quick little cameo thing, 69 00:03:25,288 --> 00:03:28,124 and to get in the first Avengers, and then, "Hey, guess what?" 70 00:03:28,208 --> 00:03:29,292 You're not Hawkeye, 71 00:03:29,375 --> 00:03:31,878 'cause he's become Loki's, you know, sidekick. 72 00:03:31,961 --> 00:03:33,087 You have heart. 73 00:03:33,171 --> 00:03:35,340 Like, I'm still trying to figure this guy out. 74 00:03:35,423 --> 00:03:38,009 If I put an arrow through Loki's eye socket, 75 00:03:38,092 --> 00:03:40,011 I would sleep better, I suppose. 76 00:03:40,094 --> 00:03:43,264 RENNER: But then, in Ultron, when they cemented the family life, 77 00:03:43,348 --> 00:03:46,643 I think that was a huge thing just for the original six Avengers. 78 00:03:46,726 --> 00:03:49,479 It just became, like, "What are we doing this all for?" 79 00:03:49,562 --> 00:03:53,566 And grounding it to, like, what is, you know, the real value, and values. 80 00:03:53,650 --> 00:03:56,361 That was a great leap for the character. 81 00:03:56,444 --> 00:03:59,405 You know I totally support your avenging. 82 00:03:59,489 --> 00:04:01,074 I couldn't be prouder. 83 00:04:02,992 --> 00:04:04,285 But I see those guys... 84 00:04:04,369 --> 00:04:06,454 Those gods... 85 00:04:08,414 --> 00:04:09,874 You don't think they need me. 86 00:04:10,792 --> 00:04:14,087 I think they do, which is a lot scarier. 87 00:04:16,673 --> 00:04:18,591 RENNER: It started to really cement for me, 88 00:04:18,675 --> 00:04:23,763 and I had to sort of redefine in my head what a superhero is, 89 00:04:23,846 --> 00:04:26,224 and what a superpower really is, 90 00:04:26,307 --> 00:04:31,062 and that's where the connectivity of every human, every fan, or whatever, 91 00:04:31,145 --> 00:04:33,314 can come through someone like Clint Barton. 92 00:04:33,398 --> 00:04:34,482 Wow. 93 00:04:35,483 --> 00:04:37,026 Under different circumstances... 94 00:04:38,528 --> 00:04:40,196 this would be totally awesome. 95 00:04:41,698 --> 00:04:44,617 Really, he knows this character inside out. 96 00:04:44,701 --> 00:04:47,620 So, I think it's very important to Jeremy to make sure that 97 00:04:47,704 --> 00:04:50,206 what we're establishing, what we're continuing 98 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:53,334 to tell about this character is true. 99 00:04:53,418 --> 00:04:57,505 And Jeremy is very much into the truth about the character. 100 00:04:57,588 --> 00:05:00,675 So, he puts in the extra effort to make sure that, 101 00:05:00,758 --> 00:05:02,427 "You know what, this does make sense." 102 00:05:02,510 --> 00:05:07,015 The lines that he's saying is correct and true to how Clint Barton would react. 103 00:05:07,098 --> 00:05:10,268 You know, at the end of the day, my job is to hurt people. 104 00:05:11,269 --> 00:05:13,313 -You were a hero. -I was a weapon. 105 00:05:14,355 --> 00:05:16,858 RENNER: I remember having a Zoom call and, like, 106 00:05:16,941 --> 00:05:19,360 "Guys, I think in the first two weeks of shooting this 107 00:05:19,444 --> 00:05:23,364 "I've said more than I've said the entire MCU universe thus far." 108 00:05:23,448 --> 00:05:26,367 All right, so this rescue mission, it's got a part two? 109 00:05:26,451 --> 00:05:28,202 Yeah. What do I look like? 110 00:05:28,286 --> 00:05:29,912 -Are you Tabatha? -Yes, that's me. 111 00:05:29,996 --> 00:05:33,041 That's not an Uber Pool? For God's sakes! 112 00:05:33,124 --> 00:05:35,752 RENNER: Just to find his voice and find timing and rhythm 113 00:05:35,835 --> 00:05:39,297 and just all that sort of stuff, they were all discoveries 114 00:05:39,380 --> 00:05:41,299 I was making throughout the show. 115 00:05:41,382 --> 00:05:46,137 And a lot of those come from ad-libbing and just allowing us 116 00:05:46,220 --> 00:05:47,555 as artists to be able to channel 117 00:05:47,638 --> 00:05:50,141 these characters through us and really try to find it. 118 00:05:50,224 --> 00:05:53,186 I'm sorry. I got so excited that he was saying, 119 00:05:53,269 --> 00:05:55,688 "It was you," I got wrapped up in it. 120 00:05:55,772 --> 00:05:57,315 -Hey. -Yeah, it is. 121 00:05:58,608 --> 00:06:00,818 TRINH: Clint Barton from the Ultimate Comics, 122 00:06:00,902 --> 00:06:04,447 that was the version that was shown in the previous Avengers movies. 123 00:06:04,530 --> 00:06:06,532 You know, the more serious action superhero. 124 00:06:06,616 --> 00:06:08,993 But what I found more interesting 125 00:06:09,077 --> 00:06:11,788 that I wanted to explore more in this particular series 126 00:06:11,871 --> 00:06:14,123 is the Matt Fraction version of Clint Barton, 127 00:06:14,207 --> 00:06:16,459 you know, who is a little bit of the reckless, 128 00:06:16,542 --> 00:06:20,004 you know, loner, but so funny and quirky. 129 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:25,885 I thought, who else better to draw that out of him but Kate Bishop? 130 00:06:28,596 --> 00:06:32,475 She is just a young, early 20-year-old girl 131 00:06:32,558 --> 00:06:34,435 who really aspired to be a superhero 132 00:06:34,519 --> 00:06:37,688 because she saw when she was eight years old, 133 00:06:37,772 --> 00:06:40,900 and in the series, what Clint Barton could do as Hawkeye 134 00:06:40,983 --> 00:06:43,945 when he did that backward flip in Avengers 135 00:06:44,028 --> 00:06:47,156 and saved her and everybody else in New York. 136 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,158 I think that really inspired her to go, 137 00:06:49,242 --> 00:06:51,285 "You know what? I can be like him. 138 00:06:51,369 --> 00:06:54,038 "I just have to work hard, and I have to push myself." 139 00:06:54,122 --> 00:06:55,748 Are you okay? By the way? 140 00:06:55,832 --> 00:06:59,001 I'm good. Yeah! No, I'm fine. You should see the other guys. 141 00:06:59,085 --> 00:07:03,381 Kate, you know, is someone who grew up with this figure in her life 142 00:07:03,464 --> 00:07:05,883 as a role model, you know, unbeknownst to him. 143 00:07:05,967 --> 00:07:11,180 And watching her, you know, meet him and prove herself to him, 144 00:07:11,264 --> 00:07:14,725 it's a perspective on the Avengers that I think 145 00:07:14,809 --> 00:07:17,145 is closer for the audience in terms of, like, 146 00:07:17,228 --> 00:07:18,646 "What would it be like to be there 147 00:07:18,771 --> 00:07:21,691 "and what's the aftermath of going through that experience?" 148 00:07:21,816 --> 00:07:22,817 (GRUNTING) 149 00:07:24,068 --> 00:07:25,069 (GASPS) 150 00:07:26,446 --> 00:07:27,447 Come on! 151 00:07:28,114 --> 00:07:29,740 You're Hawkeye! 152 00:07:30,408 --> 00:07:31,576 And who the hell are you? 153 00:07:34,787 --> 00:07:39,083 TRINH: I think in the back of Kevin's mind, he had Hailee as Kate. 154 00:07:39,167 --> 00:07:41,752 We actually just said, "Let's meet Hailee, 155 00:07:41,836 --> 00:07:44,714 "let's just have a conversation with her and see how that goes." 156 00:07:44,797 --> 00:07:46,507 And I remember, after the conversation, 157 00:07:46,591 --> 00:07:49,218 Kevin just offered her the role right then and there. 158 00:07:49,302 --> 00:07:51,012 So that was pretty remarkable 159 00:07:51,095 --> 00:07:53,681 that we came out of that meeting shaking her hand 160 00:07:53,764 --> 00:07:56,893 and going, "Okay, you're in. You're gonna play Kate Bishop." 161 00:07:57,810 --> 00:08:00,605 HAILEE STEINFELD: I didn't know much about Kate Bishop 162 00:08:00,688 --> 00:08:05,193 other than fans were very excited about her story being brought to life. 163 00:08:05,693 --> 00:08:08,029 And from there, I just dove right in. 164 00:08:08,529 --> 00:08:10,698 And it's always so fun to play a character 165 00:08:10,781 --> 00:08:14,118 that has all of this pre-existing information 166 00:08:14,202 --> 00:08:15,828 and a fanbase nonetheless. 167 00:08:15,912 --> 00:08:18,539 So, I was very excited to meet with the team 168 00:08:18,623 --> 00:08:22,210 and hear what they were thinking as far as who this character was 169 00:08:22,293 --> 00:08:27,006 and what elements from the comics they were going to portray. 170 00:08:27,089 --> 00:08:30,510 She's, you know, a young woman growing up in New York City, 171 00:08:30,593 --> 00:08:33,262 and she's got a lot of wit. 172 00:08:33,346 --> 00:08:37,850 I built the suit myself when I was trapped in a cave once 173 00:08:37,934 --> 00:08:41,562 so, I had a lot of time on my hands, and I just felt... 174 00:08:41,687 --> 00:08:42,730 That's very good. 175 00:08:42,813 --> 00:08:46,025 BERTIE: She's so funny, she's so grounded, 176 00:08:46,108 --> 00:08:49,779 so there's no point at which she's playing for the comedy or the gags, 177 00:08:49,862 --> 00:08:54,492 and it's a really challenging role to kind of get right because of Kate's eagerness, 178 00:08:54,575 --> 00:08:56,494 and also because of her privilege, 179 00:08:56,577 --> 00:09:00,289 she could tip into being the annoying whippersnapper. 180 00:09:00,373 --> 00:09:05,795 But she just holds it because there's this endearing quality that I think we, 181 00:09:05,878 --> 00:09:09,882 as women trying to get by in the world, recognize in ourselves, 182 00:09:09,966 --> 00:09:12,969 so she really has this wonderful vibrancy. 183 00:09:13,052 --> 00:09:14,595 Hey, look, it's you. 184 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,056 No, it's not, that's Katniss. Let's go. 185 00:09:17,139 --> 00:09:18,391 I do love her. 186 00:09:18,474 --> 00:09:19,559 Cut! 187 00:09:19,642 --> 00:09:21,978 STEINFELD: It's been so fun doing this thing with Jeremy. 188 00:09:22,061 --> 00:09:25,439 I remember sitting down with him for the first time over this project 189 00:09:25,523 --> 00:09:27,108 and just really getting right into it, 190 00:09:27,191 --> 00:09:30,194 and right away, I felt this sense of comfort, 191 00:09:30,278 --> 00:09:34,156 knowing that this is a world he has been in for ten years. 192 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,075 What are you doing here? We're too exposed. 193 00:09:36,158 --> 00:09:37,493 Come on. Take cover. 194 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,622 (BOTH LAUGH) 195 00:09:41,789 --> 00:09:45,793 I kinda took the role of shepherding her into, like, how Marvel works, 196 00:09:45,876 --> 00:09:48,296 and how, with all the stunts, and then this and that, 197 00:09:48,379 --> 00:09:51,340 and the chaos of schedules, and then there's a lot going on... 198 00:09:51,424 --> 00:09:52,800 She just fell into trust with me 199 00:09:52,883 --> 00:09:55,428 because I was looking after her in those ways. 200 00:09:55,511 --> 00:09:57,847 -Yeah, I leave the car, then you fire... -Okay. 201 00:09:57,930 --> 00:09:59,098 -...then we meet. -Okay. 202 00:09:59,181 --> 00:10:02,018 When you have that, then true art can then exist 203 00:10:02,101 --> 00:10:03,811 'cause you have trust with one another. 204 00:10:03,894 --> 00:10:06,063 You're imparting wisdom. Love this part. 205 00:10:06,897 --> 00:10:08,983 -Please, tell me which part. -You know, come on. 206 00:10:09,066 --> 00:10:11,485 The part where the old cop comes back for one last job, 207 00:10:11,569 --> 00:10:14,905 and then imparts wisdom on his young, surprisingly capable partner. 208 00:10:16,282 --> 00:10:18,075 Yeah, I'm not imparting anything on you. 209 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:20,578 STEINFELD: He was very wonderful in showing me the ropes 210 00:10:20,661 --> 00:10:23,205 and, you know, collaborating with me 211 00:10:23,289 --> 00:10:26,917 in finding this amazing dynamic between Clint and Kate. 212 00:10:27,001 --> 00:10:29,545 RHYS: He's thrown into this energetic environment, 213 00:10:29,629 --> 00:10:32,465 he's thrown up against this energetic character in Kate, 214 00:10:32,548 --> 00:10:37,136 and so to constantly bring that guy up against just too much energy 215 00:10:37,219 --> 00:10:39,639 and a situation that's out of his control... 216 00:10:39,722 --> 00:10:40,723 That was fun. 217 00:10:40,806 --> 00:10:43,392 This is the part where you finish my sentence with a plan. 218 00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:46,562 Planning's not really my thing. Are you sure that's dry erase? 219 00:10:51,776 --> 00:10:55,112 RENNER: I remember, even the initial pitch they were telling me about is, 220 00:10:55,196 --> 00:10:57,782 like, it's six days till Christmas, and I'm with the kids, 221 00:10:57,865 --> 00:11:00,910 and everything kind of goes south. 222 00:11:03,371 --> 00:11:09,085 We originally had Clint with his family back at his home in Iowa 223 00:11:09,168 --> 00:11:12,588 as the opening of introducing Clint in the Hawkeye series. 224 00:11:12,672 --> 00:11:15,591 We then shifted the story of his introduction 225 00:11:15,675 --> 00:11:17,218 to being in New York instead. 226 00:11:18,135 --> 00:11:19,303 Jesus, really? 227 00:11:20,096 --> 00:11:21,097 Merry Christmas, pal. 228 00:11:21,180 --> 00:11:24,642 Being able to start production in New York was really a blessing. 229 00:11:24,725 --> 00:11:26,727 It's so unique, and it's so special, 230 00:11:26,811 --> 00:11:29,522 and the energy there can't be replicated, really. 231 00:11:29,605 --> 00:11:32,024 You go to New York and you know you're in New York. 232 00:11:32,108 --> 00:11:34,068 You go into the city, and you know you're there. 233 00:11:34,151 --> 00:11:37,613 And you go in during Christmas-time, and it's really unlike anything else. 234 00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:41,117 RHYS: Getting as much of the real texture and the real flavor of New York 235 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,370 and feeling these different neighborhoods was wonderful. 236 00:11:44,453 --> 00:11:48,582 BERT: To get the scale and those vistas, and the streets, and the dirt, 237 00:11:48,666 --> 00:11:51,752 and the colors, and the people, and the energy of New York 238 00:11:51,836 --> 00:11:54,338 was important 'cause it's another character in this show. 239 00:11:54,422 --> 00:11:57,007 You know what is right up the street, you guys? 240 00:11:57,091 --> 00:11:58,467 -The biggest... -Burger King! 241 00:11:58,551 --> 00:12:02,096 The biggest Christmas tree ever, at the Rockefeller Center. 242 00:12:02,179 --> 00:12:03,180 How about we go see that, huh? 243 00:12:05,975 --> 00:12:08,811 RENNER: Clint is sort of always trying to retire. (CHUCKLES) 244 00:12:08,936 --> 00:12:11,439 I don't think you can ever retire as a superhero. 245 00:12:11,564 --> 00:12:13,691 I think you live or die. It's one of those things. 246 00:12:13,816 --> 00:12:17,653 But he's just in New York with his family, he's not thinking about anything else 247 00:12:17,737 --> 00:12:19,113 besides getting back home. 248 00:12:19,238 --> 00:12:22,825 TRINH: He actually is in New York for a very specific reason, 249 00:12:22,908 --> 00:12:26,203 and that's because he's been invited to Rogers, The Musical, 250 00:12:27,329 --> 00:12:30,750 and all of the Avengers got invited, but no one showed up except for Clint. 251 00:12:31,041 --> 00:12:33,919 RENNER: It was something that I think all of us had joked about 252 00:12:34,003 --> 00:12:36,881 and probably even slightly performed on set, you know, 253 00:12:36,964 --> 00:12:39,216 with all of our props and whatnot, 254 00:12:39,383 --> 00:12:43,971 'cause everybody is musical in some sort of way in the Avengers. 255 00:12:44,096 --> 00:12:47,933 But to have it come together and actually see it. 256 00:12:48,100 --> 00:12:50,561 It's pretty spectacular. I was really impressed, 257 00:12:50,644 --> 00:12:54,482 this is a lot of production. It was special. (CHUCKLES) It was special. 258 00:12:54,982 --> 00:12:57,610 All right, we're gonna set it for the top again. 259 00:12:58,903 --> 00:13:03,574 RHYS: When I came on, there was mention of a Rogers, the Musical in the script. 260 00:13:03,657 --> 00:13:07,495 It was like a little layer that was there, and immediately 261 00:13:07,578 --> 00:13:10,539 I was like, "Well, why... Like, you have to see the musical. 262 00:13:10,623 --> 00:13:12,708 "We're gonna mention it. Let's do the musical." 263 00:13:12,792 --> 00:13:17,254 Kevin absolutely loves the idea so much that 264 00:13:17,338 --> 00:13:22,510 he wanted us to actually create an entire song of four and a half minutes. 265 00:13:23,052 --> 00:13:29,058 So, we got Marc Shaiman to write the song for us, which is incredible. 266 00:13:29,141 --> 00:13:31,560 I can't believe we got to work with Marc Shaiman. 267 00:13:31,644 --> 00:13:33,395 The first time I met Kevin Feige... 268 00:13:33,521 --> 00:13:38,234 I was at an Academy Award function, the year of Mary Poppins Returns, 269 00:13:38,818 --> 00:13:40,945 and someone came over to me from Disney and said, 270 00:13:41,028 --> 00:13:43,197 "Kevin Feige would really like to meet you." 271 00:13:43,697 --> 00:13:45,658 And I thought, "This is a prank." 272 00:13:45,741 --> 00:13:50,287 'Cause my husband, Lou, is the biggest Marvel nerd on Earth. 273 00:13:50,704 --> 00:13:54,458 I thought, "Did Lou call someone and set them up to..." 274 00:13:54,875 --> 00:13:57,962 But anyway, there was Kevin Feige, so I went over to him, 275 00:13:58,045 --> 00:14:00,965 and he was like, all film score nerding out on me. 276 00:14:01,423 --> 00:14:05,302 I was like, "But you're Kevin Feige, and if only my husband, Lou, was here." 277 00:14:05,970 --> 00:14:09,014 And then, this phone call came about writing a song 278 00:14:09,098 --> 00:14:14,353 for a Marvel television show, once again, I thought, "Lou has put them up to this." 279 00:14:14,436 --> 00:14:19,608 So, Kevin says, "I would really like there to be a full Broadway musical number 280 00:14:19,692 --> 00:14:21,777 "of an Avengers musical." 281 00:14:21,861 --> 00:14:26,282 So, luckily, all the years I had gone to see all the movies with Lou, 282 00:14:26,365 --> 00:14:28,367 and then sat in the car afterwards, 283 00:14:28,450 --> 00:14:31,078 and he would explain to me what I had just seen, 284 00:14:31,161 --> 00:14:34,290 and he explained to me all the Easter eggs and all the history, 285 00:14:34,373 --> 00:14:39,128 so I actually knew words like "Chitauri" and "Tesseract." 286 00:14:39,211 --> 00:14:43,507 I mean, I never thought I'd be writing lyrics with rhyming Tesseract. 287 00:14:43,591 --> 00:14:44,842 Six, seven, and... 288 00:14:44,967 --> 00:14:48,387 I've got to get the Tesseract The battle's just begun 289 00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:51,765 We'll conquer the Chitauri Get shawarma when we're done 290 00:14:51,849 --> 00:14:54,685 We came into this whole thing, and it was kind of already built, 291 00:14:54,768 --> 00:14:56,604 and they plugged Ty and I right in. 292 00:14:56,729 --> 00:14:58,939 We immediately started learning choreography, 293 00:14:59,023 --> 00:15:02,067 and by, like, the second day, we kind of learned the whole number. 294 00:15:02,151 --> 00:15:06,447 I was surprised at how similar it is to what I actually do for a living 295 00:15:06,530 --> 00:15:08,032 when I go do a show on Broadway. 296 00:15:08,115 --> 00:15:09,116 -We go down up? -Yeah. 297 00:15:09,199 --> 00:15:10,284 Five, six... 298 00:15:10,659 --> 00:15:11,660 Yes! 299 00:15:11,744 --> 00:15:13,162 It's completely different for me 300 00:15:13,245 --> 00:15:16,582 because I haven't done a Broadway show in about 30 years, 25 years, 301 00:15:16,957 --> 00:15:19,960 and I was thinking that it was gonna be easy. 302 00:15:20,044 --> 00:15:22,296 I thought that we were gonna come in, 303 00:15:22,379 --> 00:15:25,799 and it was gonna be, you know, a musical that felt like a TV show, 304 00:15:25,883 --> 00:15:28,469 and that you weren't going to have to do much choreography, 305 00:15:28,552 --> 00:15:31,263 and I wasn't gonna be sweating for eight hours in a rehearsal, 306 00:15:31,347 --> 00:15:34,683 and as it turns out, we're doing a real musical here. 307 00:15:34,767 --> 00:15:37,811 Avengers unite 'Cause we got to hear you 308 00:15:38,020 --> 00:15:39,313 Got to hear you 309 00:15:42,149 --> 00:15:45,361 JOSHUA: We cast everybody here locally in Atlanta, 310 00:15:45,444 --> 00:15:48,489 and because we're dealing with, you know, 311 00:15:48,572 --> 00:15:52,826 the COVID pandemic, we couldn't do what we would normally do, which would be, 312 00:15:52,952 --> 00:15:54,995 you know, a big giant cattle call, 313 00:15:55,079 --> 00:16:01,669 and then the hard part was finding the people who could play the Avengers. 314 00:16:02,127 --> 00:16:05,047 Officially Tony Stark. I'm shook. 315 00:16:05,130 --> 00:16:06,590 I'm like, "What? Who's that?" 316 00:16:06,674 --> 00:16:08,717 Never did I think I'd be on a stage... 317 00:16:08,801 --> 00:16:11,303 acting as Hawkeye, being Hawkeye, and, you know, 318 00:16:11,428 --> 00:16:14,723 shootin' arrows, killing bad guys while, you know, singing and dancing. 319 00:16:14,848 --> 00:16:17,643 JOSHUA: A lot of the dancers have these special skills where 320 00:16:17,935 --> 00:16:21,689 they do a backflip, or they do an aerial or, you know, these great jumps, 321 00:16:21,772 --> 00:16:24,984 and then we get the Marvel stunt coordinator. 322 00:16:25,401 --> 00:16:29,905 Heidi comes in, and she can do everything they can all do. 323 00:16:30,781 --> 00:16:34,493 TRINH: Heidi Moneymaker is one of those rare gems that 324 00:16:34,618 --> 00:16:38,831 we have been so fortunate to have worked with so many years. 325 00:16:38,956 --> 00:16:42,459 She's been our Black Widow double for so long now, 326 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:48,674 and to be able to work with her at this different level as a stunt coordinator 327 00:16:48,757 --> 00:16:52,302 has been such a dream come true, because she is so talented. 328 00:16:52,386 --> 00:16:54,763 Let's get you ready and go, they have a video for you. 329 00:16:54,847 --> 00:16:55,848 MAN: Great. 330 00:16:55,931 --> 00:16:59,018 Myself and Lloyd Bateman, our fight coordinator 331 00:17:00,144 --> 00:17:03,939 have sort of given them our little spin on their little dance fight scenes, 332 00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:06,316 offering suggestions that pertain to the character 333 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,279 or giving them a little, you know, direction on punches, kicks, 334 00:17:10,362 --> 00:17:13,741 for me and Natasha's Black Widow moves, and that kind of thing. 335 00:17:13,824 --> 00:17:17,536 You know, my rigging team went over and they're prepping to fly Iron Man. 336 00:17:17,995 --> 00:17:19,371 I have to say that 337 00:17:19,455 --> 00:17:23,459 just in rehearsals on being, having a dance background, and being a gymnast, 338 00:17:23,542 --> 00:17:26,462 and being a performer, it's like I wanted to be in it. 339 00:17:26,545 --> 00:17:27,546 (BOTH LAUGHING) 340 00:17:31,341 --> 00:17:33,927 Maya Shimoguchi, our production designer, 341 00:17:34,011 --> 00:17:39,933 did an incredible, incredible job at creating the set. 342 00:17:40,017 --> 00:17:43,187 SHIMOGUCHI: The bridge is something that we really built as a bridge. 343 00:17:43,312 --> 00:17:45,272 It has a span of 45 feet. 344 00:17:45,355 --> 00:17:47,775 As you can see, most of it is cutouts. 345 00:17:48,108 --> 00:17:50,819 It was hard because there was nowhere where we could build it 346 00:17:50,944 --> 00:17:55,115 and see the whole thing together until we'd actually installed it at the theater. 347 00:17:55,199 --> 00:17:58,702 So, all the pieces were built separately in different buildings, 348 00:17:59,661 --> 00:18:03,123 so actually seeing it together was a huge relief that it actually worked. 349 00:18:03,248 --> 00:18:05,584 Let's go again and we'll do the boulder thing, right? 350 00:18:05,834 --> 00:18:07,044 And playback. 351 00:18:07,294 --> 00:18:08,921 Hulk, you know the magic word is 352 00:18:09,046 --> 00:18:12,508 Hulk, you know the magic word is Hulk, you know the magic word is 353 00:18:12,591 --> 00:18:17,513 Smash. Smash. Smash 354 00:18:17,679 --> 00:18:20,224 Save the city, help us win 355 00:18:20,974 --> 00:18:25,020 TRINH: I just remember going into the pre-film day, 356 00:18:25,145 --> 00:18:28,774 and just watching it all live, in front of me, and going, 357 00:18:29,024 --> 00:18:32,778 "I can't believe we're doing this, but this is pretty, pretty amazing." 358 00:18:32,903 --> 00:18:37,074 It's a bummer 'cause Kevin really wanted to be there and he didn't get a chance to, 359 00:18:37,282 --> 00:18:40,577 but absolutely incredible. I mean, it came together. 360 00:18:40,994 --> 00:18:46,083 The song is ingrained in my head now forever, because it is so much fun. 361 00:18:47,167 --> 00:18:51,380 -I could do this all day -Save the city, help us win 362 00:18:51,547 --> 00:18:54,216 Save us all from the state we're in 363 00:18:54,299 --> 00:18:57,803 I could do this all day 364 00:18:57,970 --> 00:19:02,057 We could do this all day 365 00:19:02,808 --> 00:19:03,934 DIRECTOR: And cut! 366 00:19:04,852 --> 00:19:07,938 Now, you may recall a masked vigilante 367 00:19:08,105 --> 00:19:11,400 who terrorized organized crime in this city for years. 368 00:19:11,567 --> 00:19:14,736 He brought a brutal form of justice to his victims, 369 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:19,449 and his identity continues to remain a mystery to this very day. 370 00:19:19,867 --> 00:19:23,120 RENNER: A lot of the story and backstory in this show is 371 00:19:23,203 --> 00:19:26,790 about what happened when Clint turned to Ronin, is a vigilante, 372 00:19:26,874 --> 00:19:29,418 and all that's kinda coming back to haunt him 373 00:19:29,543 --> 00:19:31,253 in a way, and he has to own up to it. 374 00:19:31,628 --> 00:19:34,256 Just because she's not the Ronin, doesn't mean he's not back. 375 00:19:34,423 --> 00:19:35,716 It's just a rumor. 376 00:19:35,883 --> 00:19:39,511 We can now deepen the story 'cause what have we seen of Ronin? Not a lot. 377 00:19:43,265 --> 00:19:46,059 I mean, there's a lot of value to it 'cause people love Ronin, 378 00:19:46,143 --> 00:19:50,230 and but always saw him as this... Slay this guy, and then the yakuza, 379 00:19:50,355 --> 00:19:51,523 you don't know much. 380 00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:53,692 TRINH: Kate Bishop puts herself 381 00:19:53,775 --> 00:19:56,195 in a situation where she puts on his Ronin suit 382 00:19:56,445 --> 00:20:02,576 that she finds at the auction, and that creates a big problem for him. 383 00:20:02,993 --> 00:20:06,496 You know, in Clint's mind, he wants to protect this girl, 384 00:20:06,622 --> 00:20:10,083 he wants to make sure that suit isn't gonna endanger her in any way. 385 00:20:10,167 --> 00:20:12,419 But it does force them to be together. 386 00:20:12,502 --> 00:20:13,712 Look what you did. 387 00:20:13,837 --> 00:20:17,007 RHYS: For me, it was an interesting way in of just the notion that Clint 388 00:20:17,090 --> 00:20:19,593 is possibly living with this insecurity of, like, 389 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,471 is his true self really the Ronin or is it Hawkeye? 390 00:20:22,554 --> 00:20:27,100 'Cause Hawkeye is the guy they make a musical about, and that Kate idolizes, 391 00:20:27,267 --> 00:20:32,481 and is this hero that she wants to brand, but he knows he's also the Ronin. 392 00:20:32,689 --> 00:20:35,442 I'm sorry, Kate. I'm not a role model to anyone. 393 00:20:38,487 --> 00:20:39,905 Never have been. 394 00:20:41,365 --> 00:20:43,575 What? Yes, you are. 395 00:20:44,618 --> 00:20:49,289 You are. You came here. You left your family at Christmas 396 00:20:49,373 --> 00:20:52,000 because you thought some stranger was gonna get hurt. 397 00:20:52,626 --> 00:20:55,379 You stuck around even though I screwed up. 398 00:20:55,921 --> 00:20:57,172 And now you're stuck. 399 00:20:58,715 --> 00:21:00,092 Whether you like it or not, 400 00:21:01,593 --> 00:21:03,929 the Tracksuits have connected us both to Ronin, 401 00:21:04,054 --> 00:21:06,765 and it's pretty clear they're not just gonna drop this. 402 00:21:08,684 --> 00:21:13,355 We lean into Matt Fraction's comics, so it's much more, 403 00:21:13,647 --> 00:21:16,733 kind of more grounded stunt action and even the villains. 404 00:21:16,858 --> 00:21:19,695 Like the Tracksuit Mafia, these very dangerous buffoons. 405 00:21:19,945 --> 00:21:21,363 Wakey-wakey, bro. 406 00:21:22,030 --> 00:21:24,116 They are fun. They're fun characters, 407 00:21:24,241 --> 00:21:26,994 but there also needs to be a level of danger to them, 408 00:21:27,244 --> 00:21:32,416 an unpredictability, which I think is where Fra Fee's character comes in, Kazi. 409 00:21:32,541 --> 00:21:34,418 There is a real quiet intensity to Kazi 410 00:21:35,711 --> 00:21:39,756 that I've been figuring out whilst I'm here and exploring his journey. 411 00:21:39,923 --> 00:21:42,676 I have done a lot of theater and I love doing theater. 412 00:21:43,051 --> 00:21:47,848 But, you know, telling the truth, no matter how big or small it is, 413 00:21:47,931 --> 00:21:49,224 it's all the same thing. 414 00:21:49,349 --> 00:21:53,603 So, whenever you know and you trust that your camera operator is here, 415 00:21:53,729 --> 00:21:58,734 then you have license to just be really, really small, and that's a real thrill. 416 00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:10,704 ALEKS PAUNOVIC: With Fra, his intensity, and his quiet intensity, 417 00:22:10,829 --> 00:22:13,665 but you can feel it. There's a resonance in his performance, 418 00:22:13,749 --> 00:22:18,962 which helps us because the less he does, the more we do, the more powerful he is. 419 00:22:20,047 --> 00:22:23,592 Maybe I haven't been clear. I prefer not to kill you, 420 00:22:23,717 --> 00:22:25,302 but I'm warming up to the idea. 421 00:22:25,552 --> 00:22:28,347 He's desperately wanted to work his way up the ranks, 422 00:22:28,430 --> 00:22:31,850 but been unable to do so because of Maya's position. 423 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,860 You are. 424 00:22:46,448 --> 00:22:50,410 The character we're most excited about introducing and developing is Echo, 425 00:22:50,786 --> 00:22:54,539 you know, is Maya, and she's an amazing character to have set up, 426 00:22:54,664 --> 00:22:57,376 and with the new actress, like Alaqua is, 427 00:22:57,459 --> 00:22:59,544 and to see her kind of finding her feet, 428 00:22:59,878 --> 00:23:02,089 I mean, that's been such a gift for us. 429 00:23:02,547 --> 00:23:05,133 TRINH: We were nervous about casting somebody 430 00:23:05,217 --> 00:23:07,469 who hasn't been in front of the cameras before 431 00:23:07,677 --> 00:23:10,972 but Alaqua really showed through her audition tapes 432 00:23:11,181 --> 00:23:13,558 how much she wanted to work for this role. 433 00:23:14,601 --> 00:23:18,438 I remember a friend of mine sent me the link 434 00:23:18,522 --> 00:23:21,316 for a casting call for a Native deaf person. 435 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,567 And I said no. 436 00:23:22,651 --> 00:23:25,153 And then two other friends of mine sent it to me. 437 00:23:25,237 --> 00:23:27,489 And so I decided to go ahead and apply. 438 00:23:27,572 --> 00:23:30,742 And they emailed me back when I enquired. 439 00:23:30,826 --> 00:23:32,202 And they kept emailing me. 440 00:23:32,285 --> 00:23:34,287 And I'm like, "Wow, this is getting serious." 441 00:23:34,371 --> 00:23:36,164 And so, then they actually... 442 00:23:36,248 --> 00:23:38,792 I was cast three months later and I'm just in this process. 443 00:23:38,875 --> 00:23:40,877 So I didn't ever dream of becoming an actor, 444 00:23:40,961 --> 00:23:42,796 but this is an amazing opportunity. 445 00:23:42,879 --> 00:23:45,841 You and I, we're the same. 446 00:23:51,471 --> 00:23:52,639 We're weapons. 447 00:23:54,891 --> 00:23:58,687 She's amazing. It's a different experience working with someone who's deaf, 448 00:23:58,979 --> 00:24:02,858 'cause it's a lot of different things that have to go on for her to understand 449 00:24:03,191 --> 00:24:05,485 and never acting before, is a little tricky, you know? 450 00:24:05,610 --> 00:24:08,613 I think she knocks it out of the park. It's a physical role. 451 00:24:09,489 --> 00:24:13,368 Well, my fighting style, mostly I do a lot of, like, elbowing. 452 00:24:13,493 --> 00:24:15,495 I do elbow strikes and hits. 453 00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:18,582 I was planning on punching, but they wanted to protect my hands, 454 00:24:18,665 --> 00:24:21,585 so they switched it to elbow work, because I sign to communicate, 455 00:24:21,668 --> 00:24:24,337 and they wanted to make sure that was taken care of. 456 00:24:24,421 --> 00:24:28,341 But my fighting style was more of an MMA style and karate, 457 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,804 kind of some badass moves. But mostly my stunt double does a lot of that 458 00:24:32,888 --> 00:24:35,223 because she does a lot of the kicks and I can't... 459 00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:38,435 There's certain angles that I can't move my prosthetic leg, so, 460 00:24:38,518 --> 00:24:40,562 my stunt double did an amazing job with that. 461 00:24:42,439 --> 00:24:44,649 She's a natural. I think she's gonna do well. 462 00:24:44,733 --> 00:24:46,193 I love the turn of her character. 463 00:24:50,030 --> 00:24:51,698 What are you talking about? 464 00:25:00,624 --> 00:25:03,960 FEE: At the beginning of the process, I started learning sign language, 465 00:25:04,044 --> 00:25:07,756 initially just to help me communicate with Alaqua on set. 466 00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:10,467 The good thing is that we did have time to rehearse. 467 00:25:10,550 --> 00:25:13,178 That's not a normal thing in any film set. 468 00:25:13,303 --> 00:25:16,139 But the way that the scheduling worked out, 469 00:25:16,223 --> 00:25:19,976 I had quite a lot of time to rehearse the signing, thankfully. 470 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:22,270 Otherwise that would have been nerve-racking. 471 00:25:22,896 --> 00:25:24,314 I wanted to talk 472 00:25:27,609 --> 00:25:30,987 There is something interesting about 473 00:25:31,112 --> 00:25:33,865 acting without much voice. 474 00:25:34,115 --> 00:25:37,911 For the little intimate moments with Maya, you know, 475 00:25:38,453 --> 00:25:39,955 at most I'm just whispering. 476 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,959 It's so quiet. It's an amazing thing. And all you hear is the breeze, 477 00:25:44,417 --> 00:25:50,090 or, you know, the cars outside. It's a really incredible way to perform. 478 00:25:50,257 --> 00:25:56,263 I think we're reading off each other. I'm being brought into her quiet world. 479 00:25:57,389 --> 00:25:59,808 She asked what you're doing here, Clint Barton. 480 00:26:02,769 --> 00:26:04,604 -Riding a unicorn. -Learning about trust. 481 00:26:05,272 --> 00:26:08,149 RENNER: You know, I think what Marvel's done really so excellently, 482 00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:11,278 or in the last, whatever, 12 years or so, is... 483 00:26:11,444 --> 00:26:13,113 when it's serious, it's serious, 484 00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:16,241 but then when you get loose, it can make fun of itself. 485 00:26:16,324 --> 00:26:19,953 They're really great at, like, poking fun at themselves. Meaning Marvel, 486 00:26:20,036 --> 00:26:22,330 there's characters who go into eye of the storm, 487 00:26:22,414 --> 00:26:26,084 hit it and talk about the pink elephant in the room. Like, "Dude, bro, love it." 488 00:26:26,209 --> 00:26:27,919 Like Tracksuit's a great example. 489 00:26:28,086 --> 00:26:29,504 (ALL EXCLAIMING) 490 00:26:29,754 --> 00:26:31,923 Guys, come on! Drop down! 491 00:26:32,007 --> 00:26:36,553 Come on, bro! Get at 'em! Put 'em out! You're like fried chicken, bro! Get up! 492 00:26:37,137 --> 00:26:41,057 We would see the comic book, the Tracksuit Mafia and it's, like, 493 00:26:41,141 --> 00:26:44,728 "bro" this and "bro" that, and we were talking, "Man, we need to up our 'bros.' 494 00:26:44,811 --> 00:26:46,438 "We have not been saying enough 'bros.'" 495 00:26:46,521 --> 00:26:50,483 So, we've been broing it out, and it's honestly an honor to take on 496 00:26:50,650 --> 00:26:52,027 some villains people have been 497 00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:54,029 hoping to see in the Marvel Universe. 498 00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:56,448 -We're having far too much fun posing. -Yeah. 499 00:26:56,740 --> 00:27:02,412 I had big expectations when I got the first text from costumes that, 500 00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:07,417 "Send your sizes, 'cause we are having a very exceptional costume for you." 501 00:27:07,792 --> 00:27:10,295 You know, speaking about Marvel, you think that, 502 00:27:10,503 --> 00:27:14,007 "Oh, my God, we'll play the heroes, you know, like superheroes." 503 00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:16,259 -Form-fitted. Muscular fit. -Feels awesome. 504 00:27:16,343 --> 00:27:18,345 But it was a joke from the costume guy. 505 00:27:18,428 --> 00:27:22,557 Because he had to do this kind of special costume thousands of thousands of times. 506 00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:26,645 But I gotta tell you for me, for instance, we're all wearing the tracksuits, 507 00:27:26,728 --> 00:27:30,649 I think it's great. But I gotta show you my alligator shoes. Look at these... 508 00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:33,777 -Are you kidding me? -That means he's the boss. 509 00:27:33,860 --> 00:27:35,111 That's the boss! 510 00:27:36,321 --> 00:27:37,989 MICHAEL CROW: There was discussion of, 511 00:27:38,073 --> 00:27:40,450 "Is it gonna look silly if they all wear the same tracksuit? 512 00:27:40,575 --> 00:27:42,118 "Where do they get them?" 513 00:27:42,243 --> 00:27:45,288 So we did variations where they were all in different things. 514 00:27:45,372 --> 00:27:49,459 They were just in regular street clothes, or in different kinds of tracksuits, 515 00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:52,212 different colors, different sportswear elements. 516 00:27:52,796 --> 00:27:57,884 And decided in the end, that didn't make them feel like a collective, 517 00:27:58,134 --> 00:28:00,679 and we really wanted them to feel like a gang. 518 00:28:01,596 --> 00:28:05,350 So we thought that the easiest way to outfit the number and the quantity 519 00:28:05,433 --> 00:28:08,853 that we needed with stunts and everything was to build them from scratch. 520 00:28:09,396 --> 00:28:10,397 Bros. 521 00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:16,986 At times they are scary, and they are a threat to our heroes, 522 00:28:17,070 --> 00:28:21,282 and I think a part of that is shown in the KB Toys scene where 523 00:28:21,366 --> 00:28:23,451 both Clint and Kate are captured. 524 00:28:23,743 --> 00:28:26,538 Maya Shimoguchi in the art department is 525 00:28:26,913 --> 00:28:31,126 amazing at capturing and putting everything into reality for us 526 00:28:31,251 --> 00:28:33,420 to really help elevate the series. 527 00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:35,004 Nice place you got here. 528 00:28:35,755 --> 00:28:36,923 It's not creepy at all. 529 00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:40,885 The level of detail, the level of quirk/realism, 530 00:28:40,969 --> 00:28:45,390 so there's like this creativity that isn't quite reality, but then 531 00:28:45,473 --> 00:28:48,226 there's nothing you don't believe about any of her sets. 532 00:28:48,309 --> 00:28:51,896 BERT: Even in, like, KB Toys, where there's this small office upstairs. 533 00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:54,274 I went in there one day and I just sat down at the desk 534 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:56,401 and I started looking at the papers on the desk, 535 00:28:56,526 --> 00:28:59,487 and each one of them had been individually handwritten 536 00:28:59,612 --> 00:29:03,575 with information that related to what the gang was doing. 537 00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:07,454 It was, like, the level that she has gone to is unbelievable, 538 00:29:07,537 --> 00:29:10,415 and what it means is that it makes it real for the actors. 539 00:29:13,293 --> 00:29:15,712 SHIMOGUCHI: Heidi Moneymaker, the stunt coordinator, 540 00:29:15,795 --> 00:29:17,422 did a really amazing 541 00:29:17,547 --> 00:29:21,384 stunt vis of the whole fight. We would do sort of preliminary designs, 542 00:29:21,634 --> 00:29:24,804 and then show her the models or the drawings. 543 00:29:24,971 --> 00:29:28,266 And sometimes she would ask, like, "Can we change this or that?" 544 00:29:29,267 --> 00:29:32,937 I mean, I found it really fun, actually, to think about the fighting, 545 00:29:33,021 --> 00:29:35,607 'cause when designing the sets and we're thinking about it, 546 00:29:35,690 --> 00:29:38,359 we don't really know what the fighting is actually gonna be, 547 00:29:38,443 --> 00:29:42,447 you're just tryin' to create opportunities for people to move through the space 548 00:29:42,530 --> 00:29:45,492 or places where some things could happen 549 00:29:45,575 --> 00:29:49,662 and what they would come up with was always surprising and fun. 550 00:29:51,581 --> 00:29:55,001 This actually was a bit of a challenge just in the sense that 551 00:29:55,084 --> 00:29:59,172 we had so many characters and I wanted them to have their own flair and style. 552 00:29:59,297 --> 00:30:02,801 Starting with Hawkeye, he has a somewhat established style, 553 00:30:02,926 --> 00:30:08,389 but because he's coming into this show as a retired superhero, 554 00:30:08,556 --> 00:30:12,769 living with his family, has hearing loss, is wearing a hearing aid, his back hurts. 555 00:30:12,894 --> 00:30:17,273 He's kind of the John Wick of the Marvel series, minus all the murder. 556 00:30:17,649 --> 00:30:18,650 (GRUNTING) 557 00:30:22,278 --> 00:30:23,363 I was doing fine. 558 00:30:23,530 --> 00:30:26,407 Clint's back to being Clint, and out of the Ronin life, 559 00:30:26,574 --> 00:30:30,995 and kind of healing from the effects of, you know, the Blip, and then coming back, 560 00:30:31,246 --> 00:30:35,375 and the families are back, and wanted to be back on track with his moral code 561 00:30:35,458 --> 00:30:38,294 and what he needs to do, and that becomes very defensive. 562 00:30:38,753 --> 00:30:41,589 Everything's non-lethal and you don't wanna hurt anybody. 563 00:30:46,094 --> 00:30:49,389 A plunger arrow? What is the trick? That it's completely useless? 564 00:30:49,472 --> 00:30:52,100 We haven't really worked in the action genre before, 565 00:30:52,183 --> 00:30:54,811 and then to see how capable he is physically... 566 00:30:54,894 --> 00:30:58,356 We did the bridge scene, was one of the first action sequences, 567 00:30:58,481 --> 00:31:00,233 and to watch that man sprint, 568 00:31:00,358 --> 00:31:02,694 things that you don't think about, that kind of... 569 00:31:02,777 --> 00:31:05,613 The muscle memory and the technique involved in, 570 00:31:05,697 --> 00:31:09,534 you know, left-handed arrow and then grabbing another... 571 00:31:09,784 --> 00:31:13,580 I'm doing it wrong. But just everything's like so on point with him. 572 00:31:13,663 --> 00:31:17,125 And then just picking up fight choreography on the spot with Heidi. 573 00:31:17,208 --> 00:31:21,796 This is when you realize that he's a level up. He's got all the tools. 574 00:31:25,758 --> 00:31:29,137 I remember talking to my creative team. 575 00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:31,806 I'm like, "I don't know if I wanna be in tights when I'm 50. 576 00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:34,976 "I don't think anybody wants to see me in tights when I'm 50." 577 00:31:35,059 --> 00:31:39,772 (CHUCKLES) You know what? it's all right, it's doing okay. I'm happy about it. 578 00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:47,280 Just as we were super impressed by, like, you realize how many Avengers movies 579 00:31:47,405 --> 00:31:49,115 and how much action Jeremy's done. 580 00:31:49,198 --> 00:31:52,285 Hailee came into this, and I know she's done Bumblebee before, 581 00:31:52,368 --> 00:31:56,414 she's done a little bit of action, but physically she's incredible. 582 00:31:57,165 --> 00:31:58,917 STEINFELD: Before I came out to shoot, 583 00:31:59,042 --> 00:32:02,295 I was training in LA on the stunt side of things with my dad, 584 00:32:02,378 --> 00:32:03,838 who's a personal trainer. 585 00:32:04,213 --> 00:32:07,258 The best in the game, if I do say so myself. 586 00:32:07,467 --> 00:32:11,471 And we spent months in all sorts of different styles of fighting, 587 00:32:11,554 --> 00:32:14,557 hand-to-hand combat. And once I had my first archery lesson, 588 00:32:14,641 --> 00:32:17,310 we started getting into exercises and circuits of training 589 00:32:17,393 --> 00:32:19,562 that would help me with my muscles. Let me tell you, 590 00:32:19,646 --> 00:32:22,857 you are sore in places you never knew you could be sore the next day. 591 00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:25,693 "Eenie, meenie, miny..." and then... 592 00:32:25,860 --> 00:32:27,570 -Down the line. -"Moe," and then breathe? 593 00:32:27,695 --> 00:32:31,032 We had her doing things that you would buy that a trained female could do. 594 00:32:31,115 --> 00:32:34,494 So there's no big swinging punches and things a guy would do with a guy. 595 00:32:34,577 --> 00:32:36,579 They're very feminine, but still strong. 596 00:32:36,663 --> 00:32:38,998 We have her doing a little Judo, but mostly Aikido. 597 00:32:39,082 --> 00:32:42,335 Also using her brain and using found objects and being able to 598 00:32:42,418 --> 00:32:43,836 think and be really quick-witted. 599 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,505 She evolves through the series. 600 00:32:45,630 --> 00:32:49,133 She's sort of thrown into the deep end and for the first time faces these guys, 601 00:32:49,217 --> 00:32:51,719 you know, with guns and that really wanna hurt her. 602 00:32:51,803 --> 00:32:55,348 She's probably only fought in competitions and things with rules, 603 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,311 and so to kinda lean in and see her, how she's just seizing objects. 604 00:33:00,436 --> 00:33:02,855 We looked at a lot of Jackie Chan stuff to just 605 00:33:03,272 --> 00:33:05,858 find that rhythm of spontaneity and improvisation. 606 00:33:07,402 --> 00:33:08,820 (GRUNTS) 607 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,405 We need a car. 608 00:33:10,488 --> 00:33:13,908 Can we take this one? Man, this thing's beautiful. 609 00:33:14,242 --> 00:33:16,119 RENNER: The car chase is after the big fight. 610 00:33:16,202 --> 00:33:18,871 I'm not smashing a '72 Challenger. Come on. 611 00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:22,709 Tracksuits are chasing us down, and we're severely outnumbered. 612 00:33:25,211 --> 00:33:28,756 And I was roaming through the streets of "New York." 613 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,049 Atlanta for New York. 614 00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:32,552 They had this rig that they put the car on 615 00:33:32,719 --> 00:33:36,681 where a stunt driver can get on top and drive us through the streets. 616 00:33:36,806 --> 00:33:37,932 It's an amazing thing. 617 00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:39,642 Got incoming. Come on. 618 00:33:41,894 --> 00:33:42,895 (GRUNTS) 619 00:33:48,443 --> 00:33:53,531 Basically a drivable platform that we can put the picture car on, put the actors in, 620 00:33:53,614 --> 00:33:57,660 and get them really in the middle of the action safely, 621 00:33:57,994 --> 00:34:02,373 and duplicate all the physics you would see in a car chase. 622 00:34:02,665 --> 00:34:04,542 -How many? -Four. 623 00:34:06,085 --> 00:34:08,129 The actors could do their part, their acting. 624 00:34:08,254 --> 00:34:09,839 I do my part, I'm driving. 625 00:34:09,922 --> 00:34:12,925 And we can run 'em through traffic, we can slide it, spin it, 626 00:34:13,009 --> 00:34:18,431 do all these wild stunty things and it feels real, because it is. 627 00:34:18,514 --> 00:34:22,477 TREVOR WATERSON: We wanted to do that amazing 360 shot of the car coming around. 628 00:34:22,602 --> 00:34:25,897 The idea there was to do it in a continuous motion 629 00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:30,151 having our actors in the car and be able to spin them around. 630 00:34:30,234 --> 00:34:33,071 And make it feel like they're moving and the background's moving 631 00:34:33,154 --> 00:34:34,989 without it being a visual effects background. 632 00:34:35,073 --> 00:34:36,657 Hawkeye's got a new ride. 633 00:34:36,741 --> 00:34:38,659 -MAN: How fast you been goin'? -What's that? 634 00:34:38,743 --> 00:34:40,411 How fast you been goin' in there? 635 00:34:40,495 --> 00:34:43,372 I don't know, like, the last three takes... 636 00:34:43,498 --> 00:34:44,540 -MAN 2: Hundred. -(LAUGHS) 637 00:34:44,707 --> 00:34:47,752 That's... I don't know, I'd say probably maybe 50. 638 00:34:48,753 --> 00:34:52,090 Fifty by the time we hit the 180. 639 00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:55,301 The last three takes for sure, we were cruising. 640 00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:58,596 RENNER: It's like this is what's gonna be the Hawkeye ride at Disneyland. 641 00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:02,683 It's like, "No way." It really feels like you're a part of, and in it. 642 00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:06,354 And both of us, Hailee and I, we're like, our jaws were on the floor 643 00:35:06,437 --> 00:35:08,272 'cause you never get to experience that. 644 00:35:08,356 --> 00:35:10,483 We're used to driving 25 miles an hour 645 00:35:10,608 --> 00:35:13,319 and just pretending to drive fast, or whatever it might be. 646 00:35:13,402 --> 00:35:17,073 But we were living in it like it was a roller coaster ride or something. 647 00:35:17,198 --> 00:35:19,659 We're going... We're hauling butt down this thing. 648 00:35:19,784 --> 00:35:21,077 "Let's do another take." 649 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,453 MAN: How was it? 650 00:35:22,537 --> 00:35:24,789 That was the funnest thing I've done. in a long time. 651 00:35:27,667 --> 00:35:28,793 (BOTH LAUGHING) 652 00:35:30,628 --> 00:35:31,629 Forehand! 653 00:35:32,046 --> 00:35:33,047 Big jump! 654 00:35:34,006 --> 00:35:37,593 When we were in the writers' room and we were talking about 655 00:35:37,677 --> 00:35:43,224 how do we integrate our heroes into a world with supporting characters 656 00:35:43,307 --> 00:35:46,978 that really can help elevate them and bring them the help that they need? 657 00:35:47,061 --> 00:35:52,275 And much like the ex-cons are to Scott Lang in the Ant-Man world, 658 00:35:52,358 --> 00:35:57,864 we wanted to have a group that can bring a fun tone to the series. 659 00:35:57,947 --> 00:35:58,948 (SCREAMING) 660 00:35:59,657 --> 00:36:04,662 RENNER: There this whole crew of live-action role players called LARPers. 661 00:36:04,745 --> 00:36:06,831 It's like cosplay and that stuff. 662 00:36:06,914 --> 00:36:10,334 They're very into this world, and they make their costumes. 663 00:36:10,751 --> 00:36:12,003 Take my chances. 664 00:36:15,047 --> 00:36:19,135 We're filming here in Atlanta, but it's supposed to be Central Park in New York. 665 00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:24,974 What we're setting up here is the start of Clint's sort of LARPing journey. 666 00:36:25,433 --> 00:36:28,144 I'm a Viking. I'm really a Viking. 667 00:36:28,269 --> 00:36:32,273 Basically, I got the suit. He thinks I stole it, but I found it. 668 00:36:32,773 --> 00:36:35,526 And we all know finders-keepers is the rule. 669 00:36:35,610 --> 00:36:36,819 Let me kill you. 670 00:36:37,153 --> 00:36:38,154 What? 671 00:36:38,362 --> 00:36:41,616 It's make-believe anyway. Just let me kill you in single person combat 672 00:36:41,699 --> 00:36:43,201 and then I'll give you the suit. 673 00:36:44,577 --> 00:36:45,578 No. 674 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,581 Come on, man. You're a hero in real life. 675 00:36:48,915 --> 00:36:51,209 This is as close as I'll ever get to be to being one. 676 00:36:51,459 --> 00:36:55,504 We set up this duel and everybody's circling around them 677 00:36:55,588 --> 00:36:59,300 as they do this big, fun mock-LARP battle, 678 00:36:59,383 --> 00:37:02,220 and somebody wins, and somebody gets the suit. (CHUCKLES) 679 00:37:02,553 --> 00:37:04,013 Proceed! 680 00:37:09,018 --> 00:37:11,562 You suck your stomach in and your posture gets right. 681 00:37:11,646 --> 00:37:16,150 I don't know what's in the back of this thing but I feel two inches taller. 682 00:37:16,275 --> 00:37:19,987 You kind of pose different, I've been putting a lot of hands on hips, 683 00:37:20,321 --> 00:37:23,824 you know, just like stoic brooding poses and stuff. 684 00:37:23,908 --> 00:37:27,161 It's a suit from the Marvel universe, it's got a lot of history, 685 00:37:27,954 --> 00:37:31,666 it's got a lot of stuff going on with the suit in this series. 686 00:37:32,041 --> 00:37:36,295 Also it's usually a pretty serious suit. 687 00:37:36,379 --> 00:37:40,216 If somebody's got this suit on, it's usually not good for the bad guy. 688 00:37:40,883 --> 00:37:46,180 So, to have it and do something fun and silly with the LARPers is awesome. 689 00:37:46,430 --> 00:37:47,974 My view is tremendous, by the way. 690 00:37:48,057 --> 00:37:50,142 (ALL LAUGHING) 691 00:37:50,893 --> 00:37:55,356 We, on several occasions today, have said, "Can't believe they pay us." 692 00:37:55,481 --> 00:38:00,236 Like, it is the silliest I think I've ever been in a good 20 years, 693 00:38:00,319 --> 00:38:02,238 and I'm not that old. (CHUCKLES) 694 00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:05,992 Pardon me, right behind you. Jesus! 695 00:38:10,162 --> 00:38:13,165 TRINH: Pizza Dog is a must for the series because 696 00:38:13,291 --> 00:38:17,795 Pizza Dog is a very, very big part of the Clint and Kate Bishop world 697 00:38:17,878 --> 00:38:19,046 in the Matt Fraction run. 698 00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:23,926 We've never worked with, at least I've never worked with an animal before. 699 00:38:24,051 --> 00:38:28,431 But we wanted to make sure that Pizza Dog was gonna come off the right way. 700 00:38:29,056 --> 00:38:31,976 Hey, bud. Look, it's you. It's you. 701 00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:33,436 This is Jolt. 702 00:38:34,395 --> 00:38:39,483 She is a three-year-old Golden Retriever, and she just loves to work. 703 00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:40,860 Good girl. 704 00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:45,197 BERTIE: Jolt is the most gorgeous, humorous doggy, 705 00:38:45,323 --> 00:38:47,533 who just wants cuddles and love all the time, 706 00:38:47,658 --> 00:38:52,872 and I've never seen a dog smile so broadly. On cue. Just like... 707 00:38:53,914 --> 00:38:56,500 BERT: We love working with animals, though they say not do it, 708 00:38:56,584 --> 00:38:58,085 but we seem to always do it. 709 00:38:58,544 --> 00:39:00,546 But Pizza Dog has been an absolute joy. 710 00:39:01,005 --> 00:39:02,381 Hi. 711 00:39:02,882 --> 00:39:07,470 Before we started filming, Hailee gave her a bunch of cookies and just loved on her, 712 00:39:07,595 --> 00:39:10,181 and every time they meet she's really good with her, 713 00:39:10,264 --> 00:39:13,851 and she comes and she greets her. I think they've become good friends. 714 00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:17,355 (BARKING) 715 00:39:20,649 --> 00:39:22,985 TRINH: In the comics, Derek Bishop, Kate's dad 716 00:39:23,069 --> 00:39:25,071 is actually the villain, 717 00:39:25,196 --> 00:39:28,199 and what we found interesting was, what if we actually, you know, 718 00:39:28,282 --> 00:39:32,119 turn it the other way around and make Eleanor Bishop the villain of the show, 719 00:39:32,244 --> 00:39:35,831 and really explore the mother and daughter relationship 720 00:39:35,915 --> 00:39:37,792 that we haven't quite seen in the MCU. 721 00:39:37,875 --> 00:39:40,336 Kate, it's sweet that you're worried, 722 00:39:41,253 --> 00:39:43,714 but just remember I'm the mom, it's my job to protect you. 723 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:45,383 I am not a little kid anymore. 724 00:39:45,466 --> 00:39:46,759 You're not a superhero either. 725 00:39:46,842 --> 00:39:50,930 It's hard work raising a successful daughter, especially when have different 726 00:39:51,597 --> 00:39:54,058 definitions of what that success means. 727 00:39:54,183 --> 00:39:56,394 I have given you space to have this crisis, 728 00:39:56,477 --> 00:39:59,647 but if I don't step in, you're gonna look back in 10 or 20 years 729 00:39:59,730 --> 00:40:01,649 and you'll wonder why I didn't take the wheel 730 00:40:01,774 --> 00:40:03,401 when you were swerving over the road. 731 00:40:03,484 --> 00:40:06,904 They're confident, they're capable, they're strong-willed, 732 00:40:06,987 --> 00:40:09,407 they're opinionated, but they're very different. 733 00:40:09,490 --> 00:40:12,076 You wanna tell me when you got into swords, Mom? 734 00:40:12,868 --> 00:40:16,705 Hon, there have been a few changes while you were away this semester. 735 00:40:16,914 --> 00:40:20,042 Ta-da! Oh. (CHUCKLES NERVOUSLY) 736 00:40:20,126 --> 00:40:21,627 What an unexpected surprise. 737 00:40:21,752 --> 00:40:25,965 FARMIGA: I think Jack coming into this role and wanting to serve this role 738 00:40:26,048 --> 00:40:28,134 as stepfather figure, 739 00:40:28,551 --> 00:40:31,887 he's walking into an emotional minefield with these two gals. 740 00:40:32,012 --> 00:40:37,143 I think a common interest is very fertile ground for bonding. 741 00:40:39,311 --> 00:40:42,106 Bonding. That's exactly what I was thinking. 742 00:40:42,189 --> 00:40:45,401 TRINH: We really wanted to bring in Jack Duquesne, 743 00:40:45,484 --> 00:40:47,903 who in the comics is supposed to be Swordsman, 744 00:40:47,987 --> 00:40:51,323 and Swordsman in the comics is Clint Barton's mentor. 745 00:40:51,407 --> 00:40:56,954 He taught Clint how to do archery and really is also a villain at the end. 746 00:40:57,037 --> 00:41:01,041 We wanted to explore that character, bring him into the series, 747 00:41:01,167 --> 00:41:03,878 but wanted a different twist to it. 748 00:41:04,086 --> 00:41:07,923 My brother got me all these comic books about The Swordsman that were 749 00:41:08,007 --> 00:41:10,301 printed all these years back. 750 00:41:10,384 --> 00:41:14,180 So I just kinda, you know, got into it, see what this guy was like, 751 00:41:14,263 --> 00:41:19,518 and it was sort of this swashbuckler kind of Errol Flynn type of character. 752 00:41:19,685 --> 00:41:23,981 So I tried to kind of instill that a little bit into the character, 753 00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:28,486 this sort of debonair, kind of very classy sort of kind of guy, you know? 754 00:41:28,986 --> 00:41:30,738 You know what they say... 755 00:41:31,363 --> 00:41:34,992 Life is short. You never know what you're gonna get. 756 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,746 (CHUCKLES) 757 00:41:38,829 --> 00:41:39,830 What? 758 00:41:39,955 --> 00:41:43,042 TRINH: With Jack's character, we wanted him to be the red herring, 759 00:41:43,167 --> 00:41:47,296 we wanted people to really question whether or not 760 00:41:47,421 --> 00:41:51,217 he is acting as sort of like a buffoon, 761 00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:55,387 I guess, in a way, this entire time, or is he really faking it? 762 00:41:55,513 --> 00:41:56,931 Careful, honey. 763 00:41:57,598 --> 00:41:58,682 When am I not careful? 764 00:41:58,766 --> 00:42:00,768 Always. You were always not careful. 765 00:42:02,603 --> 00:42:03,646 I was talking to Jack. 766 00:42:03,896 --> 00:42:06,815 DALTON: When I got the part, I hired a professional fencer, 767 00:42:06,941 --> 00:42:09,193 and we went at it for weeks. 768 00:42:09,276 --> 00:42:12,613 I'd taken fencing, oddly enough, back in the day. 769 00:42:12,738 --> 00:42:15,407 I took a couple of semesters back in college, 770 00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:19,411 so I knew what I was doing. But I needed to refresh it. It has been a long time. 771 00:42:19,537 --> 00:42:21,330 What are you hiding, Jack? 772 00:42:23,290 --> 00:42:24,458 Nothing. 773 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,169 I'm an open book. Right, darling? 774 00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:31,882 TRINH: Kate does this one little smart move on him that he deflects. 775 00:42:31,966 --> 00:42:35,636 And we wanted to leave his character at the end as a mystery. 776 00:42:35,761 --> 00:42:39,765 And that will actually allow a lot more opportunities down the line 777 00:42:39,848 --> 00:42:42,184 if we want to explore Swordsman in the MCU. 778 00:42:43,310 --> 00:42:46,313 RENNER: It's kind of like, you know, building a brick wall. 779 00:42:46,397 --> 00:42:49,692 I mean, you got to lay one brick, put some mortar down and then another, 780 00:42:49,775 --> 00:42:52,361 then it defines kind of what it is as it goes along. 781 00:42:52,444 --> 00:42:54,947 And with each thing that has been layered in, 782 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,574 we get to use that. 783 00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:04,123 We can talk about all these things that can happen that make 784 00:43:04,206 --> 00:43:05,666 this Hawkeye show even exist. 785 00:43:07,376 --> 00:43:10,921 And because of this Hawkeye show, Florence comes from the Black Widow movie, 786 00:43:11,046 --> 00:43:14,258 and all these things start to happen in a weave like Kevin has always done 787 00:43:14,341 --> 00:43:15,759 all in the MCU all along. 788 00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:19,346 What we really wanted to bring into this series is 789 00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:23,225 the connective tissue that Clint has with Yelena. 790 00:43:23,392 --> 00:43:26,145 We went to Kevin, and we had asked if they can do a tag 791 00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:30,774 in the Black Widow project to see if that can be connected into the Hawkeye series, 792 00:43:30,899 --> 00:43:35,237 and the tag actually has Yelena going to Natasha's grave site, 793 00:43:35,362 --> 00:43:40,200 and Julia Louis-Dreyfus' character, Valentina, comes up next to her 794 00:43:40,326 --> 00:43:42,328 to show her her next assignment. 795 00:43:42,453 --> 00:43:47,333 Maybe you'd like a shot at the man responsible for your sister's death. 796 00:43:48,292 --> 00:43:50,002 Kind of a cutie. Don't you think? 797 00:43:50,669 --> 00:43:54,006 When there were early discussions of if Yelena was gonna come back, 798 00:43:54,089 --> 00:44:00,763 I was thinking about where her mind was. How does she find out? Who tells her? 799 00:44:01,096 --> 00:44:04,058 How does she react? Who does she go after? 800 00:44:04,266 --> 00:44:06,310 And then when we shot the tag scene, 801 00:44:06,393 --> 00:44:11,940 I didn't see it coming that they'd put me and Clint against each other, 802 00:44:12,024 --> 00:44:13,734 which I thought was a cool twist. 803 00:44:15,486 --> 00:44:19,156 If we did the for-real fight with me wearing goggles, it'd be like this. 804 00:44:19,698 --> 00:44:22,576 I was... I'm gonna, I'll go get you a sandwich, I'll be right back. 805 00:44:24,578 --> 00:44:27,623 RENNER: There's a lot of things that we had to work through story-wise, 806 00:44:27,790 --> 00:44:30,501 'cause we don't know each other. She thinks I killed her sister, 807 00:44:30,584 --> 00:44:32,002 I'm like, "That's not true." 808 00:44:32,086 --> 00:44:35,964 All these things, so we're trying to fill in holes of truths and backstory. 809 00:44:36,090 --> 00:44:38,592 She was really wonderful to kind of help shape that. 810 00:44:38,676 --> 00:44:40,386 She's such a beast. She's throwing me around. 811 00:44:40,469 --> 00:44:43,138 When Florence and I had our first day together, 812 00:44:43,263 --> 00:44:47,726 I just remember being so excited about the fact that there was another female 813 00:44:47,810 --> 00:44:53,107 that came in and came onto the set and totally took ownership of her space 814 00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:56,402 and her character and who she was in our story. 815 00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:59,446 I know you're thinking, "What? This is crazy. 816 00:44:59,530 --> 00:45:04,702 "I'm going to have dinner with the enemy, and she made good looking macaroni." 817 00:45:04,827 --> 00:45:07,621 My relationship with Hailee is kind of like, 818 00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:10,541 our little heartbeat throughout both of our stories. 819 00:45:10,624 --> 00:45:15,462 I think they're both craving friendship, especially Yelena. 820 00:45:15,546 --> 00:45:17,965 And I think there's also that lovely level of 821 00:45:18,090 --> 00:45:21,427 "Oh, well, if we really fought, I'd win in two seconds." 822 00:45:21,802 --> 00:45:25,764 So, you know, I may as well just have a friend in all of this. 823 00:45:25,848 --> 00:45:27,224 What are we doing? 824 00:45:27,307 --> 00:45:29,059 I mean, it's Christmas Eve. Let's grab a drink, huh? 825 00:45:30,436 --> 00:45:32,730 -Okay. Yeah. Sure. -Cool. 826 00:45:33,021 --> 00:45:34,022 After I kill Barton. 827 00:45:35,566 --> 00:45:38,777 No, that's not... No, that's not what... 828 00:45:38,861 --> 00:45:39,862 (GRUNTS) 829 00:45:40,738 --> 00:45:44,825 It's a very funny, soft, friendly fight. 830 00:45:44,908 --> 00:45:46,452 -Out of all the fights... -Yes. 831 00:45:46,535 --> 00:45:50,622 ...this is, like, a definite sisterly tussle, 832 00:45:50,706 --> 00:45:53,417 which is cute because up until that point, 833 00:45:53,542 --> 00:45:56,044 I think we've both been in pretty hairy situations. 834 00:45:56,712 --> 00:45:57,796 They're having fun. 835 00:45:58,046 --> 00:45:59,798 -I'm going to do it either way. -(GRUNTS) 836 00:46:00,048 --> 00:46:02,509 Okay, but hear me out. What if you, what if you don't... 837 00:46:08,223 --> 00:46:10,392 RENNER: We're at the Rockefeller Center. 838 00:46:10,517 --> 00:46:12,811 It's pretty cool being here. I gotta tell ya. 839 00:46:12,936 --> 00:46:15,355 It's especially with no one here. (CHUCKLES) 840 00:46:18,317 --> 00:46:21,445 TRINH: We wanted to shoot our finale at the Rockefeller Center, 841 00:46:21,528 --> 00:46:25,157 and initially we weren't quite sure if we were gonna be even allowed to do it, 842 00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:28,368 or how were we gonna accomplish such a big feat there. 843 00:46:28,452 --> 00:46:31,789 But spending that time there to make sure that we got the environment 844 00:46:31,914 --> 00:46:35,834 and got the tree and got the rink, and then replicating that in Atlanta 845 00:46:35,918 --> 00:46:38,420 for the rest of the work was pretty incredible. 846 00:46:40,547 --> 00:46:45,344 We're not, in fact, in New York City currently, but we were. 847 00:46:45,427 --> 00:46:48,263 And it feels like we are now with everything, 848 00:46:48,347 --> 00:46:50,766 from what you see behind us to the temperature. 849 00:46:53,727 --> 00:46:55,479 The sets that Maya Shimoguchi, 850 00:46:55,562 --> 00:46:57,981 who's our production designer, built were amazing. 851 00:46:58,065 --> 00:46:59,942 The construction team in Atlanta 852 00:47:00,025 --> 00:47:02,402 put together the sets that people were blown away by. 853 00:47:02,486 --> 00:47:05,197 They copied right down to the look of the granite. 854 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,659 So, it was amazing between that, and the ice was not really ice 855 00:47:08,742 --> 00:47:12,329 because we determined that the ice was gonna be too hard to maintain 856 00:47:12,412 --> 00:47:16,333 and the temperature levels in Atlanta wouldn't allow us to keep the ice frozen. 857 00:47:16,416 --> 00:47:18,460 So, it's actually a knock-off substance 858 00:47:18,544 --> 00:47:20,379 you could use, and wasn't slippery. 859 00:47:20,462 --> 00:47:22,798 Which was nice, we have crew walking around on it. 860 00:47:24,091 --> 00:47:27,970 Getting to this point now as we near the end of filming this thing, 861 00:47:28,053 --> 00:47:30,430 although we've shot very much out of order, 862 00:47:31,265 --> 00:47:34,852 ending with this part of Kate is actually pretty special, 863 00:47:34,935 --> 00:47:37,980 I think, because she has grown and I have been able to find her 864 00:47:38,105 --> 00:47:41,400 through all of those jokey, crazy, funny, actiony bits, 865 00:47:41,483 --> 00:47:44,862 and then we get down to the most insane fun action. 866 00:47:47,781 --> 00:47:48,824 Hello, sweetie! 867 00:47:50,367 --> 00:47:54,079 I've always referred to this sequence as our Rio Bravo sequence, 868 00:47:54,162 --> 00:47:56,290 essentially the siege of Rockefeller Center. 869 00:47:56,373 --> 00:48:00,878 So, we start out high in the building at this serene party, 870 00:48:00,961 --> 00:48:03,213 and it's very Christmassy, and everything's mellow, 871 00:48:03,297 --> 00:48:04,715 and then chaos erupts. 872 00:48:07,009 --> 00:48:09,511 And ends with the tree coming down, 873 00:48:10,012 --> 00:48:12,306 which for me is particularly special 874 00:48:12,389 --> 00:48:15,559 'cause, yeah, I worked at Rockefeller Center for about 12 years, 875 00:48:15,642 --> 00:48:18,520 so, it's bizarre that we've recreated this whole thing. 876 00:48:18,645 --> 00:48:19,646 (CRASHING) 877 00:48:24,610 --> 00:48:28,655 Pretty impossible to do what we're doing to the Rockefeller Christmas tree 878 00:48:28,739 --> 00:48:31,033 for the love of Christmas, right? 879 00:48:31,241 --> 00:48:32,242 (LAUGHING) 880 00:48:33,118 --> 00:48:34,578 But it's pretty awesome. 881 00:48:34,661 --> 00:48:38,373 We're gonna do a lot of really killer kickass fight scenes on this ice. 882 00:48:39,583 --> 00:48:41,043 My gun! What happened? 883 00:48:42,085 --> 00:48:43,837 That should hold them off for a bit. 884 00:48:44,796 --> 00:48:46,965 -Oh, my God, you wore it! -Yeah, yeah, yeah. 885 00:48:47,049 --> 00:48:48,884 Oh, my God, it looks so good, I told you. 886 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:55,349 It is the moment in the story where they become a team. 887 00:48:56,683 --> 00:48:59,686 So this is the moment where you really want them to feel like 888 00:48:59,770 --> 00:49:02,064 they're connected and they're a piece. 889 00:49:02,147 --> 00:49:06,401 And I think we accomplished that with the costumes for each of them. 890 00:49:06,485 --> 00:49:07,903 Bringing the design elements 891 00:49:07,986 --> 00:49:11,323 like the chevron and the various shades of purple and black 892 00:49:11,406 --> 00:49:15,410 into the design so that they feel like they are a collective 893 00:49:15,494 --> 00:49:17,579 and a team that can work together well. 894 00:49:17,955 --> 00:49:18,956 Kate. 895 00:49:21,083 --> 00:49:22,167 Let's give 'em hell. 896 00:49:22,292 --> 00:49:24,461 It was so funny, 'cause during our first fitting, 897 00:49:24,544 --> 00:49:27,589 I must have heard "It's just a prototype" like 100 times, 898 00:49:27,673 --> 00:49:30,217 because I was so overly excited, much like... 899 00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:32,970 Kate is a lot of the show, that they were like, 900 00:49:33,053 --> 00:49:34,388 "You have no idea. It's not... 901 00:49:34,471 --> 00:49:36,974 "This is just the bare bones of what this is gonna be." 902 00:49:37,099 --> 00:49:39,142 And I was like, "Well, if that's what this is, 903 00:49:39,226 --> 00:49:41,228 "then this thing is gonna be pretty badass." 904 00:49:43,063 --> 00:49:45,065 -Stealth. -That was great. 905 00:49:45,148 --> 00:49:47,734 In keeping with sort of the utility of everything, 906 00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:51,238 we wanted the costumes to feel a little bit more like sportswear, 907 00:49:51,363 --> 00:49:53,281 like something that you could move in. 908 00:49:53,365 --> 00:49:56,034 You know, a lot of the superhero costumes 909 00:49:56,952 --> 00:50:00,956 have a lot of bulk to them or feel restrictive in certain ways. 910 00:50:01,081 --> 00:50:04,584 We really wanted this to feel like they can move in them. 911 00:50:06,378 --> 00:50:09,214 I'll never ever complain about the comfort level of suits 912 00:50:09,297 --> 00:50:12,384 compared to every other Avenger and superhero out there, 913 00:50:12,467 --> 00:50:13,635 'cause I have probably, 914 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,014 or we probably have some of the more comfortable ones, considering. 915 00:50:17,347 --> 00:50:20,559 The only one that might rival the comfort level is Ruffalo's, 916 00:50:20,642 --> 00:50:22,310 it's just some checkered pajamas. 917 00:50:22,394 --> 00:50:23,395 (BOTH LAUGH) 918 00:50:23,687 --> 00:50:28,400 And that Missy, boy, she just outdid herself with the suit, right? 919 00:50:28,483 --> 00:50:31,403 -The elasticity in this fabric is... -Okay, you can stop. 920 00:50:32,612 --> 00:50:35,323 RHYS: That was a difficult sequence to manage 921 00:50:35,407 --> 00:50:39,077 because you had so much story converging in this one place. 922 00:50:39,161 --> 00:50:41,121 Letting each of them have their moment 923 00:50:41,246 --> 00:50:43,790 so you're invested. You understood what was going on, 924 00:50:43,874 --> 00:50:45,417 but could keep moving between them. 925 00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:47,419 That was the biggest challenge of all. 926 00:50:47,502 --> 00:50:49,337 Your first arrow is gonna go to Kate. 927 00:50:49,421 --> 00:50:50,464 -This is Kate. -Hi. 928 00:50:50,547 --> 00:50:52,632 -Hi. -You're gonna fire at him. One, two. 929 00:50:52,716 --> 00:50:54,509 And then second one up high. 930 00:50:54,593 --> 00:50:58,305 We've got a massive fight on this ice rink with a bunch of Tracksuit Mafia 931 00:50:58,388 --> 00:51:01,600 where Kate and Clint finally find their rhythm and become a team, 932 00:51:01,683 --> 00:51:03,310 which is a really great evolution. 933 00:51:03,393 --> 00:51:07,022 Ready! And one! And two! And three! 934 00:51:07,105 --> 00:51:09,316 And four! And five! 935 00:51:11,318 --> 00:51:13,570 Ready. And fire! 936 00:51:15,447 --> 00:51:17,324 Kate goes away to kinda find her mom, 937 00:51:17,407 --> 00:51:20,494 and Clint's back on the ice, getting shot at by Kazi 938 00:51:20,577 --> 00:51:22,913 and stuff's going crazy, and then before you know it, 939 00:51:22,996 --> 00:51:24,748 Yelena's tackling him back onto the ice. 940 00:51:24,831 --> 00:51:26,249 (GRUNTS) 941 00:51:26,333 --> 00:51:27,417 Ribs. 942 00:51:27,542 --> 00:51:31,880 For me, this is one of the most emotional and epic scenes. 943 00:51:31,963 --> 00:51:34,424 Nobody killed her. She made a choice. 944 00:51:34,508 --> 00:51:35,759 Stop lying! 945 00:51:35,842 --> 00:51:38,428 As these pieces of the story unfold, 946 00:51:38,512 --> 00:51:40,889 she's becoming less technical and more brutal. 947 00:51:40,972 --> 00:51:43,975 So by the end of this, she's got one of her batons 948 00:51:44,059 --> 00:51:47,062 and she's literally beating the crap out of him and he's letting her, 949 00:51:47,145 --> 00:51:48,647 because he feels as bad as she does. 950 00:51:48,730 --> 00:51:51,399 (SCREAMS) 951 00:51:53,652 --> 00:51:56,154 So, obviously, it being a finale, 952 00:51:56,238 --> 00:51:58,573 we see all of these stories kind of come to a head, 953 00:51:58,657 --> 00:52:00,992 and Clint's been on this redemption journey, 954 00:52:01,076 --> 00:52:05,080 and Maya, you know, is sort of a palpable fallout 955 00:52:05,163 --> 00:52:07,165 of his actions as the Ronin, and so, 956 00:52:07,249 --> 00:52:09,751 we watch them both have their climactic sort of showdowns. 957 00:52:09,835 --> 00:52:12,379 Him with Yelena, her with Kazi. 958 00:52:18,552 --> 00:52:19,553 (GRUNTS) 959 00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:23,265 Seeing the comic page come to life on the screen 960 00:52:23,348 --> 00:52:25,600 is what has excited me for the past 20 years. 961 00:52:25,725 --> 00:52:29,896 But really, as we get into the second decade of Marvel Studios, 962 00:52:29,980 --> 00:52:31,690 what is equally exciting to me 963 00:52:31,773 --> 00:52:35,861 is the enthusiasm and the joy that the actors themselves 964 00:52:35,944 --> 00:52:40,574 bring to evolving and portraying these characters year after year. 965 00:52:44,828 --> 00:52:48,081 We were all on a call, me and Kevin and Trinh, 966 00:52:48,165 --> 00:52:51,751 and we were talking about the Tracksuit Mafia 967 00:52:51,835 --> 00:52:55,088 and the criminal organization behind this story, 968 00:52:55,172 --> 00:52:56,756 and we needed a really big threat, 969 00:52:56,882 --> 00:53:00,135 like something that, you know, would make Eleanor Bishop 970 00:53:00,218 --> 00:53:04,389 shake in her boots and Hawkeye, you know, get a little bit afraid. 971 00:53:04,472 --> 00:53:05,891 It had to be someone powerful. 972 00:53:05,974 --> 00:53:08,727 When you talk about organized crime in the Marvel universe 973 00:53:08,810 --> 00:53:11,730 and you talk about the seedy underbelly of New York City, 974 00:53:11,855 --> 00:53:15,025 there is one primary character that comes to mind. 975 00:53:20,488 --> 00:53:23,617 TRINH: Kevin threw out the idea that, 976 00:53:24,492 --> 00:53:26,161 "What if this could be Kingpin?" 977 00:53:26,244 --> 00:53:30,874 And I think all of our jaws just kind of dropped in our Zoom meetings, 978 00:53:30,957 --> 00:53:33,084 and we're kinda like, "Wait, you're joking, right? 979 00:53:33,168 --> 00:53:35,170 "This can't be serious. Are you serious? 980 00:53:35,253 --> 00:53:36,880 "This is... You're... 981 00:53:37,756 --> 00:53:40,091 "You really think that there's a chance 982 00:53:40,175 --> 00:53:42,802 "that we can actually get Vincent D'Onofrio, 983 00:53:42,886 --> 00:53:45,096 "who plays Kingpin in Daredevil, 984 00:53:45,180 --> 00:53:47,849 "in the series as a cameo for a couple of scenes? 985 00:53:47,933 --> 00:53:49,684 "Like, he is our big boss?" 986 00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:53,063 And Kevin made a call to Vincent. 987 00:53:53,146 --> 00:53:55,815 He said, "I want to bring you into the MCU." 988 00:53:55,899 --> 00:53:58,151 I'm not gonna say no to that. That's pretty awesome. 989 00:53:58,235 --> 00:53:59,444 The people 990 00:54:00,779 --> 00:54:02,530 need to be reminded 991 00:54:04,532 --> 00:54:06,326 that the city belongs to me. 992 00:54:06,409 --> 00:54:08,328 I really loved playing this character. 993 00:54:08,536 --> 00:54:10,872 I liked creating him, you know, 994 00:54:10,956 --> 00:54:14,668 from the art of guys like David Mack. 995 00:54:15,669 --> 00:54:20,340 TRINH: We had talked about doing a heavier set version of Kingpin. 996 00:54:20,423 --> 00:54:25,387 But ultimately, we wanted to go in a different direction for this character. 997 00:54:26,054 --> 00:54:30,475 To put him in that Hawaiian shirt was kind of like a dream come true. 998 00:54:33,144 --> 00:54:36,439 We had talks, and she gets really in depth about things. 999 00:54:36,523 --> 00:54:40,735 I love that 'cause I was able to explain how I feel about the character 1000 00:54:40,819 --> 00:54:42,696 and what motivates the character. 1001 00:54:42,779 --> 00:54:45,115 And Fisk is really driven by emotion. 1002 00:54:45,198 --> 00:54:48,535 You know, he's like a child and a monster both at the same time. 1003 00:54:48,618 --> 00:54:50,704 So it got very intense yesterday, 1004 00:54:50,787 --> 00:54:52,998 and it got a little bit intense today, too. 1005 00:54:56,334 --> 00:54:57,335 Maya. 1006 00:54:59,379 --> 00:55:00,588 You and I... 1007 00:55:01,256 --> 00:55:02,340 we're family. 1008 00:55:03,883 --> 00:55:05,260 Family. 1009 00:55:06,594 --> 00:55:09,222 Sometimes family doesn't see... 1010 00:55:09,681 --> 00:55:10,682 eye to eye... 1011 00:55:11,057 --> 00:55:13,059 (EXPLOSION) 1012 00:55:20,317 --> 00:55:24,070 This whole experience has been really crazy. 1013 00:55:24,154 --> 00:55:26,573 I mean, there are just a lot of moving parts 1014 00:55:26,656 --> 00:55:30,243 and just an amazing, amazing large team of people. 1015 00:55:30,410 --> 00:55:32,829 And to have Jeremy as an ally through all of it 1016 00:55:32,954 --> 00:55:34,456 has just been really special. 1017 00:55:34,539 --> 00:55:36,333 Make sure you get that curve. 1018 00:55:36,416 --> 00:55:38,001 -You got it, right? -Okay. 1019 00:55:38,585 --> 00:55:41,504 I keep saying there's a lot going on, and in the best way, 1020 00:55:41,588 --> 00:55:44,007 but it's nice to look at the person that's next to you, 1021 00:55:44,090 --> 00:55:46,634 that you're in this scene with, and have an understanding 1022 00:55:46,718 --> 00:55:48,928 and confidence that you'll get through it together. 1023 00:55:49,012 --> 00:55:50,764 Yeah, he's my partner. 1024 00:55:51,389 --> 00:55:52,557 No, we're not partners. 1025 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,393 -Well, we're friends-slash-partners. -That's kind of a stretch. 1026 00:55:55,477 --> 00:55:59,397 It's bittersweet for sure as we come to this end. 1027 00:56:01,649 --> 00:56:03,485 TRINH: The mentor-mentee relationship 1028 00:56:03,568 --> 00:56:06,446 is what we were really striving to showcase in the series. 1029 00:56:06,529 --> 00:56:09,783 But it's not really one-sided between Clint and Kate. 1030 00:56:09,866 --> 00:56:14,079 What's also really interesting is that he's learning so much from Kate as well, 1031 00:56:14,162 --> 00:56:15,622 too, throughout the series. 1032 00:56:15,705 --> 00:56:19,793 And in the end, you know, having learned a lot from each other, 1033 00:56:19,876 --> 00:56:21,211 they both become partners, 1034 00:56:21,294 --> 00:56:24,464 and, you know, he eventually hands the mantle over to her. 1035 00:56:24,547 --> 00:56:26,216 What do you think of "Lady Hawk"? 1036 00:56:28,134 --> 00:56:29,344 Yeah, that's terrible. 1037 00:56:29,427 --> 00:56:31,179 RENNER: I mean, it's hard to quantify 1038 00:56:31,262 --> 00:56:33,556 what it's meant for me as in my career. 1039 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,059 It certainly made me famous. 1040 00:56:36,142 --> 00:56:39,813 When a fourth-grader and third-grader knows your first and last name, 1041 00:56:39,896 --> 00:56:41,398 that's a strange thing, right? 1042 00:56:41,481 --> 00:56:44,067 It just, it becomes like a very global thing. 1043 00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:45,652 I know it's affected that way. 1044 00:56:45,735 --> 00:56:50,532 But when I think of the MCU and my experiences playing this character 1045 00:56:50,615 --> 00:56:54,160 and every film that I was fortunate enough to be able to do, 1046 00:56:54,244 --> 00:56:56,413 it becomes much more of a personal journey. 1047 00:56:56,496 --> 00:56:59,124 Look at the wonderful relationships I've got to forge 1048 00:56:59,207 --> 00:57:00,708 you know, 'cause we're also... 1049 00:57:00,792 --> 00:57:03,294 When you do a film, you're usually done and you move on. 1050 00:57:03,378 --> 00:57:05,255 And this is not even just a trilogy. 1051 00:57:05,338 --> 00:57:06,965 This is a lot of films, right? 1052 00:57:07,048 --> 00:57:09,551 So, you get to have that sort of family element 1053 00:57:09,634 --> 00:57:12,011 and continue on through so many years. 1054 00:57:12,095 --> 00:57:14,055 And when you have a career shared together, 1055 00:57:14,139 --> 00:57:17,517 that's very, very far and few between, or never happens. 1056 00:57:18,184 --> 00:57:20,019 And I feel very blessed for that, 1057 00:57:20,103 --> 00:57:23,523 and that's what I think about when I think about my time in the MCU. 1058 00:57:35,076 --> 00:57:40,081 See? Tree covers the parts that won't... come off. Damn it! 1059 00:57:41,916 --> 00:57:42,917 (LAUGHING) 1060 00:57:46,463 --> 00:57:47,797 Am I dead yet? 1061 00:57:51,134 --> 00:57:52,427 Ow. 1062 00:57:52,552 --> 00:57:54,304 Don't go without me! 1063 00:57:54,387 --> 00:57:56,055 Have you ever eaten reindeer? 1064 00:57:56,139 --> 00:57:57,765 I cannot say I've had the pleasure. 1065 00:57:57,849 --> 00:58:00,226 (FAKE LAUGH) No, it is not a pleasure. 1066 00:58:00,768 --> 00:58:02,770 Put it down! 1067 00:58:12,989 --> 00:58:14,532 Is my soul dead yet? 1068 00:58:17,368 --> 00:58:18,369 How about now? 1069 00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:21,122 No?