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- I was given the choice
of going to reenlisting

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and becoming an officer and
being this weather observer,

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the duty weather observer,

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for my entire career
out in the ranges.

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Or if I elected
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they would send me to
Cameron Bay which was one of

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the nicest places to get sent to

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because you weren't really
under fire or anything.

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And then when I got back I

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would only have two and a half
months left on my enlistment

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so I would be discharged
and I could go home.

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And since I was quite
homesick at the time,

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I decided to take Vietnam.

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I was expecting to get
sent to Cameron Bay

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and to have a pretty
easy rester after all

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the stuff I'd been
through out on the ranges.

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Well when I got to
Vietnam, you always have

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to check into the country at
Tan Son Nhut, next to Saigon.

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And then the night
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the Communists had attacked

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the airbase at Binh
Thuy in the Delta,

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a South Vietnamese Air Base
with some Americans there.

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It's on the Mekong River just

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a few miles upstream
from Can Tho,

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South Vietnam's
second-largest city.

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And one of the American
observers had been killed

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and some other Americans
had been killed.

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And I got there and the
sergeant looked at my orders

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and he said to me well,
I showed him my orders,

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I'm going to Cameron Bay.

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And he said to me, he said,
"Well, you look to me,

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"Airman Hall, like
a man that knows how

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"to take care of himself when
things get pretty rough."

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And I said, "Yeah."

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So he tore my orders and said,

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"And I'm sending you to
Binh Thuy in the Delta."

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And I said, "Wait, wait,
there's a whole busload of them.

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"I'll go get a
couple, there's men

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"that could do it better
than me, right?" (laughs)

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He typed up my orders and said,
"You're going to Binh Thuy."

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And I was on the next
plane to Binh Thuy.

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There was the night I was
watching four other guys in

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their undershirts, they
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running across the square and

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the shells landing in among
them and killing them.

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I was in full combat
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the entrance to the bunker
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to help them which took
tremendous, and I just,

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if I had, I'd have been killed.

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But then I was there when
after the shelling stopped.

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It might have been that
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and the other guys.

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I did get injured in Vietnam

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but it wasn't due
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One night during after
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I was walking
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and they'd dug a hole, they had,

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there was a piece of
concrete and they'd dug

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a hole in the concrete
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And it wasn't marked.

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And in the rain I
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the concrete hole
and ripped open

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the skin over the
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a three corner kind of tear,

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but it didn't do any damage.

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but it opened it to the bone.

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And the only medic we
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And when I went
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he said it needed 13 stitches.

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And he only had two
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and he didn't want
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because South Vietnamese
soldiers had taken
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and he needed them for them

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because he couldn't get any
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and the American planes
would deliver him.

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So he said that he needed to
sew up that tear, 13 stitches,

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and I wouldn't with
no Novocaine, okay?

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And I asked him, I said,
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"when you do it because
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And he laughed,
he was a captain.

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And he looked at me,
he understood me.

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I had three stripes.

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He said, "Yeah, go ahead
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"but see how close in
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"they're right out
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"They're sure to hear it.

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"It'll give him
them a good laugh.

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"Go on scream, and let
them laugh, right?"

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And I was so bullheaded.

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I said, "I'd die before I let

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"the Communists laugh
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And I just stood there,
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English kind of person I am
and he put in all 13 stitches.

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I said, "But it's okay if
I count them, isn't it?"

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He said yeah and we
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I still remember 11, 12, 13,

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and I still have the scar
on my left leg today.

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And then my left, lower
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I could just barely put
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And a couple days later
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when he had Novocaine and
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I went over there and I
said do you have something

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to kill the pain
because it aches a lot?

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And of course he only
had a limited supply.

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The captain still had
that sense of humor.

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He said, "Yeah but
remember when you take it,

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"it'll make the food in
the chow hall taste bad."

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And I thought I was
gonna die laughing

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because it already
tasted so bad.

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I said forget that noise,
if it tastes any worse,

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I won't be able to take it.

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And so I did it all without
painkiller or anything

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and we were sitting there
laughing our guts out.

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In Vietnam, the night I was in
the tower and it was raining

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and the Communists
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a South Vietnamese,
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and there was a South Vietnamese
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the base of my weather
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which was the same
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the South Vietnamese aircraft.

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And a shell, a mortar shell,
landed directly next to him

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and it was in the
rain and exploded.

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There's no flash
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it just looks like a smoke bomb.

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And the shrapnel killed him.

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He dropped instantly.

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it had wooden sides and
stuff so it stopped,

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and a wooden floor, and
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So it didn't blow off any wind.

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There's no concussion
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and none of the glass
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And so as I looked there it
looked like he was play acting.

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It looked like he was an actor

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and he wasn't very good, okay?

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It looked like he just crumpled.

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I thought he was play acting.

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I thought, since we were friends
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that he was just trying to fun
with me, the way soldiers do.

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And it was so new, it was one of

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the first mortar
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I didn't realize we
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I thought it was funny,
the way he acted.

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And he just laid there and I
kept saying come on, get up,

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but I was like 40
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and so I kept saying to
myself come on, get up.

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And he wouldn't,
there was no movement.

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So almost laughing after
the all clear sounded,

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I went out of the tower
and I went down the stairs

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and all the time I was
saying come on Tadakis,

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come on, get up.

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And then I walked over to him
where he was still laying in

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the water, his body was.

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it looked like he had
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It looked like he had
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to a smoke bomb.

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And I said come on,
come on, get up.

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And so I was gonna nudge
him up with my boot.

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And I went to turn him over
and his body turned over

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and you could see, on the
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the shrapnel, all
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had totally blown away
half of his face, okay?

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I wasn't ready for it.

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And I spent the next two hours
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the irrigation channel.

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But my brain wouldn't let
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because it was protecting
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Once you become afraid, see,

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your brain is the
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and I speak from
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it will do anything
to protect you.

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Including give you tunnel vision

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and not let you see
what's off to the side.

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(somber piano music)

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July 20th, 1964, I enlisted
in the US Air Force.

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And I did 13 weeks
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at Lackland Air Force Base
in San Antonio, Texas.

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The military gives you
a large number of tests

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to see what you
might be good at.

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I got a perfect score in that,

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better than the
test had ever seen.

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And I got the Air Force
record for math ability.

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I got one wrong out of 500.

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And so they were very
impressed with me.

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And when they came around
with the wish list,

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as I was graduating,

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I had best grades of
anybody in my class.

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And they said where
do you wanna get sent?

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And I put in maybe
Germany or England

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and the sergeant said no, I
understand you're getting sent

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to Nellis, they want you there.

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And so when my
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it was for Nellis Air Base
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The very night I got
there, they were holding

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a birthday party,
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are not allowed in
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the major whose having
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could do anything he wanted.

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Those chief observers said
to me not everybody's here.

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The duty range observer,
he's not here tonight.

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And one of the other
guys who became one

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of my very good
friends was laughing

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and said maybe he's out
partying with Range Four Harry.

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I thought they were
just trying to scare me.

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New guy, you always
tell him a few stories

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and see if you can frighten them

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and get to know them and stuff.

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And so I didn't
pay any attention.

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And then this lady who
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she looked really
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came over and asked me to dance.

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And I'd had a couple
of beers and I said no,

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I don't want to dance with
you because you're too old.

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And she got really upset
and huff stomped off.

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The next morning, the
chief observer called me in

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and he said that
was the major's wife

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and you really offended her.

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All of us danced with
her and don't expect

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to get promoted 'cause the
major, you offended his wife.

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The next day, Monday
morning, the major,

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when I got to work,
he was so stern.

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He called me in his office,
closed and locked the door,

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and then he was
laughing, he was saying,

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"Airman Hall, you're
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"I can trust around my wife.

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"All the others want to dance
with her and play with her.

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"You and I, you belong here."

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(laughs) And the joke was on
them because the major was,

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he was a really nice guy
but he got kinda jealous

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with all the other younger
men dancing with his wife

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and he himself didn't dance.

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And so it kind of got
off to a unusual start.

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My friend was
explaining it to me.

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He told me the legend
of Range Four Harry,

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and I thought that he
was just teasing me,

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trying to scare me.

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And he said Range Four Harry was

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a large white radioactive
horse that floated around

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the deserts and the dry lake
beds in the hot part of summer.

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I was laughing so
hard I couldn't walk.

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I fell down and I was laughing

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and I must have
laughed for 20 minutes.

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I thought these guys are
really pulling my leg.

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The next day, the weather
observer that I was supposed

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to replace, he finally arrived
in one of the barracks.

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He was such a
naturally likable guy,

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the first time I saw him.

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God, I wanted to be him.

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He had a convertible, he had
a new uniform he'd bought.

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I felt ashamed that I was
kind of rude and country

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and non-polished and
so on, because, I mean,

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he was from Los
Angeles and everything.

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And the only thing
I'd found odd was

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that he didn't seem to know
where anything was, okay?

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Now he had claimed to have
been there for six months,

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and this was in
the spring of 1965.

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And we're talking
about a very tiny base.

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If you'd been there
for six months,

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you know where every
rock is, right,

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you know where every board is.

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And so when he took
me out to range three,

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he wasn't in any
hurry to get there.

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When he got out there, he
marched right up to the door,

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there was a padlock on it.

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And I was so impressed
with his militarism

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and he felt all of his pockets
and he said, "I don't seem

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"to have the key,
give me the key."

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And I said, "I
don't have the key."

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He said, "Didn't the
cooks give you the key?"

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And I wondered what are
the cooks doing with

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the key to the
weather shack, right?

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I mean, yeah.

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I said, "No, I
don't have the key."

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And he just swiveled
smartly on his left heel.

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He had me take out
a pen and a paper

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and he said let's see,
the low level winds,

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let's see, the ground level
winds, what do we say they are?

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Out of the southwest
at five, okay?

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And then he got to the third
level, the fourth level winds.

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Let's see, they're out
of the north at no, no,

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let's see, Charlie,
they trust you

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and we're doing this
for the government

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so let's make those
4,000-foot winds out of

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the southwest at
four 'cause four is

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the government's number.

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Anytime you tell the
government anything,

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they wanna hear the number four.

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And he made them up, and
we made up all the winds,

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we got in there and I
was sitting there in,

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kind of in awe of him,
this is how it's done.

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And then we went
over to the chow hall

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and he was saying
goodbye to all the cooks.

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I said those master
sergeant told me

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that you would show me the
other four weather shacks.

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And he looked palsied with fear.

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Then he and I got
back in the truck

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and we went back down to
the intersection between

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the range three and
the range one road,

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some miles back, and we started

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the long drive
down to range one.

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And at first he was going
more or less 40 miles an hour,

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they were gravel roads.

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He kept driving
slower and slower,

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and then when we were
coming through the mess gate

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where it overhangs the road,
and you couldn't turn around,

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you were committed
to going all the way

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to the dry lake bed just
to turn the truck around,

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he kept driving
slower and slower

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and you could see he was
getting more and more afraid.

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I was really surprised 'cause
when I looked out there,

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there was nothing to be seen.

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You're looking at the desert
in the summertime, sagebrush,

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and he'd slowed to low
gear and five miles an hour

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and it didn't seem like
he ever wanted to close.

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And I said well,
you're gonna have

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to turn into range one just
to turn the truck around,

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because he was shaken with fear.

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We got into the graveled
area and there was

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the control tower for range
one and the skip bomb area

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and I was expecting
him to park the truck

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and take me over and
unlock the shack.

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And he was still
sitting there and he had

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the truck looking out over
the desert to the southeast

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and he was shaking in terror.

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And he was saying
do you see anything?

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And I said well, there's
nothing to be seen.

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And he said it's a hot day,
they gotta be out there.

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And I said well who's out there?

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And I thought maybe he
was still putting me on.

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And I said you mean
Range Four Harry?

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And he got really, it was
like touching a nerve.

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He said no, there's
no such thing, honest.

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He'd insisted that
we'd have all of

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the doors on our
pickup truck locked.

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I said I want to see the
inside of the weather shack

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and I had to talk him into it.

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He said okay but
I'll sit here in

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the truck with the
engine running.

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And if I see anything
I want you to know

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that I'll drive into base and
find the range maintenance man

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and we'll come back for you.

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So if I see anything,
just lock yourself in

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the weather shack
and wait for us,

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I promise I won't abandon you.

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00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,767
And I'm thinking god,
this thing about scaring

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the new guy's kind of
gotten out of hand.

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I mean, I'm looking out
there, all I could hear was

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a few meadowlark-like sounds
in the sagebrush out there.

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So I got out of the
truck and I closed it

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and he locked the door behind me

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and I walked over to
the weather shack.

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And the range one weather shack,

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the door was around
on the southeast side.

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And so I walked around and
I opened up, unlocked it,

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and I opened it up
and I looked inside.

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And I looked in and just
scanned, quickly, the log books

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while he was, you could
see he was almost on

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the verge of leaving
me out there.

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And it was obvious
that nobody had been in

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the weather shack for
like three or four months.

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When we got back from
what he was showing me,

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he was terrified and
exhausted and he said to me

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that he couldn't spend
another night there,

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and that I was on my own.

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00:20:00,067 --> 00:20:04,967
And then he left so I had only
one afternoon of training.

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00:20:05,833 --> 00:20:08,367
And so I was now on my own.

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00:20:08,367 --> 00:20:10,733
But at first, I didn't
pay any attention

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when I went out to range three

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and I would see the
lights up the valley

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and they would seem to float.

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I remember distinctly
one night there was

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a group of five of them.

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And as they
approached in arroyo,

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I was expecting them to go down
into the arroyo and come up.

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And the lights just floated
right over the arroyo,

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didn't blink or anything.

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00:20:33,067 --> 00:20:37,367
And I thought well gee, only
a helicopter could do that,

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but you couldn't hear
any helicopter sounds.

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And then in the barracks,
strange things would happen.

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Like I'd go to bed at,
say, nine o'clock at night.

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And then one night I
found myself waking up.

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So as I hurried down
the center aisle toward

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the latrines in the middle,

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there was this cubicle
off to my right.

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00:21:01,067 --> 00:21:03,300
And so as I was
relieving myself,

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it seemed like there was
a white lady standing in

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the first cubicle with some type

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00:21:09,633 --> 00:21:12,400
of white squarish
weapon in her hands,

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standing there like this
up against the bunk,

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between the bunk
and the partition.

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00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,067
And I didn't want to look
at her in the mirror.

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00:21:21,067 --> 00:21:25,267
And so, as I was walking past
the entrance to the cubicle,

404
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she was standing there like that

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00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,533
and she looked really afraid
of me, ready to fire on me.

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00:21:31,533 --> 00:21:35,500
And I was so shocked, I
couldn't think of anything

407
00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:37,333
but just keep walking.

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00:21:37,333 --> 00:21:42,333
For a dream, I was becoming
terrified, it was sinking in.

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00:21:43,567 --> 00:21:46,200
Yeah, I decided that the
safest thing I could do,

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00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:51,167
and I was was to go back to
bed and go back to sleep,

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00:21:52,633 --> 00:21:54,167
and then maybe my brain
would get back to normal.

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00:21:54,167 --> 00:21:56,933
Nobody killed me yet if
I'm awake on the morning.

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00:21:56,933 --> 00:21:58,967
That was the best I could do.

414
00:22:03,567 --> 00:22:06,667
(gentle piano music)

415
00:22:09,333 --> 00:22:11,133
It was a very
idyllic, beautiful day

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00:22:11,133 --> 00:22:13,500
and I was listening
to what sounded

417
00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:18,467
like western meadowlarks
singing in chorus way down

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00:22:18,467 --> 00:22:21,967
the valley but I had
actually never seen

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00:22:21,967 --> 00:22:25,933
a western meadowlark bird
anywhere out in the ranges

420
00:22:25,933 --> 00:22:27,933
but I would keep hearing
the sounds all the time.

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00:22:27,933 --> 00:22:31,533
And I was looking at the
purple sagebrush and stuff,

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00:22:31,533 --> 00:22:34,133
I thought I saw
what looked to be

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a little white girl run
past one of the openings.

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00:22:37,667 --> 00:22:39,600
It looked like the
sagebrush in the background,

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only much much thicker
and much taller.

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00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:44,633
And there were lanes
through the sagebrush,

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but generally speaking, the
sagebrush was more of a maze.

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00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:52,433
And after a little while,
I got a clearer glimpse at

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00:22:52,433 --> 00:22:55,633
what I was certain
was a little lost girl

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00:22:55,633 --> 00:22:58,400
with chalk white skin
running out there.

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00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,867
So I put on my gloves and I
got my two canteens of water

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00:23:01,867 --> 00:23:05,800
and, of course, I always
had combat boots and stuff.

433
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,800
And I walked out just to see
if I could get a closer look.

434
00:23:11,533 --> 00:23:13,533
Is anyone out there?

435
00:23:13,533 --> 00:23:15,567
Are you a little lost girl?

436
00:23:17,067 --> 00:23:19,233
And then every now and then
I would get a glimpse of her.

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00:23:19,233 --> 00:23:20,867
I could just drop
down the sagebrush

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00:23:20,867 --> 00:23:24,333
and make broad lanes
for me to go through.

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00:23:24,333 --> 00:23:26,433
And as soon as I
started doing it,

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I noticed that all
the meadowlark sounds

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00:23:29,967 --> 00:23:31,433
that I'd heard coming from down

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00:23:31,433 --> 00:23:35,067
the valley suddenly moved
up the valley quickly.

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00:23:35,067 --> 00:23:37,367
It just seemed like there
was a flock of birds around

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00:23:37,367 --> 00:23:41,600
and you could hear one off
to the sagebrush on my right

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00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,700
and one off to my left,
none actually behind me,

446
00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:46,933
but then like an arc around me.

447
00:23:46,933 --> 00:23:49,467
And, of course, it made
me a little nervous

448
00:23:49,467 --> 00:23:50,933
but I was determined
to make sure

449
00:23:50,933 --> 00:23:52,567
because I would every now

450
00:23:52,567 --> 00:23:54,800
and then would get glimpses
of the little girl,

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00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,433
and one of them put out
a real shrill sound,

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00:23:57,433 --> 00:24:00,667
it was off to my right.

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00:24:00,667 --> 00:24:03,100
And the little girl
stopped running

454
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:05,367
and just stood
there in the lane,

455
00:24:05,367 --> 00:24:08,833
out there, some
distance away from me,

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00:24:08,833 --> 00:24:10,700
with sagebrush in
between me and her,

457
00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:15,067
and waited for me to break
through to where she was.

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00:24:15,067 --> 00:24:18,600
And so in a very patient
and deliberate fashion,

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00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,867
I broke down the sagebrush,
made a real nice wide trail

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00:24:21,867 --> 00:24:24,067
and broke it off
until I could get

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00:24:24,067 --> 00:24:27,367
to the lane where she
was and, in effect,

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00:24:27,367 --> 00:24:30,900
have her trapped in a box
canyon and the sagebrush.

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00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:35,900
No more than from here to,
say, where no the camera is.

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00:24:36,633 --> 00:24:39,733
(gentle piano music)

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00:24:45,067 --> 00:24:47,500
Don't be afraid, I'm
not gonna hurt you.

466
00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:48,933
I'm the weatherman over there,

467
00:24:48,933 --> 00:24:51,567
I just thought you might
need to be with your parents.

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00:24:51,567 --> 00:24:53,200
And I turned around
when I looked at her

469
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,367
and I saw that she
was a little girl

470
00:24:56,367 --> 00:24:59,700
but she wasn't a human
little girl, okay?

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00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:03,200
And the shock I felt
can hardly be described.

472
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,067
I heard all these
meadowlark sounds.

473
00:25:05,067 --> 00:25:08,100
I kind of turned around
and put my back to her so

474
00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:10,333
that I could
control my own fear.

475
00:25:10,333 --> 00:25:14,400
And I kind of started staggering
back to my weather shack

476
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,067
and I had to go down through
the lanes I had caught.

477
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,067
And I was just saying
I'm the weatherman,

478
00:25:20,067 --> 00:25:22,067
I'm over here in
the weather shack.

479
00:25:22,067 --> 00:25:24,067
If you need some
water, I have it.

480
00:25:24,067 --> 00:25:26,267
If you're lost, just
come to where I am

481
00:25:26,267 --> 00:25:28,567
and I'll call the base
commander and stuff.

482
00:25:28,567 --> 00:25:33,067
I was coming down the
last big wide trail

483
00:25:33,067 --> 00:25:35,467
with sagebrush on both sides

484
00:25:35,467 --> 00:25:37,733
and I wondered if she
was following behind me,

485
00:25:37,733 --> 00:25:41,633
and I stopped and
turned around slowly

486
00:25:41,633 --> 00:25:44,333
and a sight I'll
always remember,

487
00:25:44,333 --> 00:25:47,333
coming, running
straight towards me,

488
00:25:47,333 --> 00:25:52,333
not as far away as the
car, 50 feet, maybe less,

489
00:25:53,733 --> 00:25:56,633
was one of the Tall White
men, Range Four Harry.

490
00:25:56,633 --> 00:26:00,400
He was running down the
trail, straight towards me.

491
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,700
And I was stood there like
a deer in the headlights.

492
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:04,800
He could have run right over me,

493
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,533
I was in such shock.

494
00:26:06,533 --> 00:26:09,400
And he got to a cross
lane that I had cut

495
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,533
and then he turned quickly
into the cross lane

496
00:26:11,533 --> 00:26:13,933
and ducked down
behind the sagebrush

497
00:26:13,933 --> 00:26:16,567
and then would peek at
me over the sagebrush.

498
00:26:16,567 --> 00:26:21,100
And I was in such shock,
I was kind of staggering.

499
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:24,367
And all I could think
was just keep walking.

500
00:26:24,367 --> 00:26:26,867
What you don't know
about won't hurt you.

501
00:26:26,867 --> 00:26:29,867
And I just kind of staggered
back into my weather shack

502
00:26:29,867 --> 00:26:32,800
at range one and
I closed the door

503
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,867
and I just sat there
for like a half-hour.

504
00:26:35,867 --> 00:26:38,700
(whimsical music)

505
00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:56,567
One afternoon, god, I'll
remember it forever.

506
00:26:56,567 --> 00:27:01,567
It was a hot day and it was
like 110 or so out there.

507
00:27:03,067 --> 00:27:05,067
And I was standing in my
range three weather shack,

508
00:27:05,067 --> 00:27:07,900
I was inside in the shade
and I was talking on

509
00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:10,700
the phone to the
Nellis Weather Station,

510
00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:13,233
the wind measurements
that I had taken.

511
00:27:13,233 --> 00:27:16,200
And there was a lot
of static on the line.

512
00:27:17,533 --> 00:27:19,700
And it seemed like
somebody was listening in.

513
00:27:20,833 --> 00:27:23,533
Of course, the
guy I was talking,

514
00:27:23,533 --> 00:27:25,067
my friend whom I was talking

515
00:27:25,067 --> 00:27:29,200
to at Nellis, noted the
static too, so we hung up.

516
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,333
And with my hand still on
the phone I looked out,

517
00:27:32,333 --> 00:27:34,400
straight north, where
the theodolite was just

518
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,200
a little bit to the left,
and standing out there,

519
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,067
just this side of
the theodolite,

520
00:27:39,067 --> 00:27:43,500
just standing there
in an ordinary
nylon-type ski suit kind

521
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:47,167
of thing with boots, and
she was obviously listening

522
00:27:47,167 --> 00:27:50,100
to what I'd been saying
on the telephone, okay?

523
00:27:51,167 --> 00:27:52,433
I wasn't saying
anything of importance,

524
00:27:52,433 --> 00:27:53,933
the winds are out
of the southwest,

525
00:27:53,933 --> 00:27:56,900
but she was obviously
very intently listening.

526
00:27:56,900 --> 00:28:00,533
The bright sunlight
reflected off her white suit.

527
00:28:01,933 --> 00:28:05,633
The sunlight was so bright
that it hurt my eyes.

528
00:28:05,633 --> 00:28:08,733
The pain was real, the
brain doesn't do that.

529
00:28:08,733 --> 00:28:12,800
And therefore the light
coming off her suit was real

530
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,500
and therefore she
was real, okay?

531
00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:17,700
And this was quite
a problem for me

532
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:19,900
because I kept wanting to think

533
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:23,200
that whatever I was
seeing was just me.

534
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,633
And after a couple
three seconds,

535
00:28:25,633 --> 00:28:28,567
she suddenly realized that
I was looking back at her

536
00:28:28,567 --> 00:28:31,633
and she took off running
towards the northeast corner of

537
00:28:31,633 --> 00:28:34,667
the range three lodge, and
once she got just close

538
00:28:34,667 --> 00:28:38,200
to the edge of the corner,
she put both feet together

539
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,067
and jumped like a baserunner
running for second base.

540
00:28:43,067 --> 00:28:46,067
So I decided that I needed
to walk over carefully

541
00:28:46,067 --> 00:28:50,300
and see if she was still
behind the range three lodge.

542
00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:53,733
And I started walking
towards my theodolite,

543
00:28:53,733 --> 00:28:56,400
Range Four Harry
himself stood up from

544
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,733
the sagebrush on the bunker
road off to my right,

545
00:28:59,733 --> 00:29:02,100
off to the northeast,
and just stood

546
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:04,633
there looking square at me,

547
00:29:04,633 --> 00:29:07,767
wanting me to know
that he was there,

548
00:29:07,767 --> 00:29:09,667
that the lady wasn't alone.

549
00:29:10,833 --> 00:29:12,833
And he knew perfectly
well what I was thinking

550
00:29:12,833 --> 00:29:15,567
'cause of his electronics
and he knew perfectly well

551
00:29:15,567 --> 00:29:18,833
that I understood that
if I continued to go

552
00:29:18,833 --> 00:29:21,167
and look around the
range three lodge,

553
00:29:21,167 --> 00:29:22,767
he would be behind me.

554
00:29:22,767 --> 00:29:24,500
So I decided, for my own safety,

555
00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:28,067
to just stop there and rest
my arms on my theodolite

556
00:29:29,167 --> 00:29:31,167
and wait for the
situation to clear.

557
00:29:31,167 --> 00:29:35,200
He was obviously perfectly real
and she was perfectly real.

558
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,700
I couldn't accept
it emotionally.

559
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:40,067
And as I stood there,
in a few minutes,

560
00:29:40,067 --> 00:29:42,633
five or 10 minutes,
I could see the lady

561
00:29:42,633 --> 00:29:46,233
and her younger niece
circling away 'round

562
00:29:46,233 --> 00:29:48,067
to the northeast.

563
00:29:48,067 --> 00:29:50,900
And when I looked over
at Range Four Harry,

564
00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:54,700
we communicated
with body language.

565
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:57,600
I didn't say anything,
he didn't say anything,

566
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,600
but if we had said
something I would have said

567
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,533
I don't know what
the lady wants.

568
00:30:04,533 --> 00:30:08,567
And he would have said I
don't either, (laughs) okay.

569
00:30:08,567 --> 00:30:11,400
And then after she had
left, then he went back in

570
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,867
the sagebrush, I
decided that I should

571
00:30:13,867 --> 00:30:17,233
just go back in my weather
shack and read a book.

572
00:30:17,233 --> 00:30:20,200
And so we started
communicating like that.

573
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,533
(upbeat acoustic music)

574
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,933
(sinister music)

575
00:30:46,933 --> 00:30:49,667
A few nights later,
I was laying in bed

576
00:30:49,667 --> 00:30:53,233
and I heard the door
open on the west end,

577
00:30:53,233 --> 00:30:55,900
and a group of people come in.

578
00:30:55,900 --> 00:30:59,633
And one of them sounded
like the Air Force general.

579
00:30:59,633 --> 00:31:03,067
He specifically said to the
people who were with him,

580
00:31:03,067 --> 00:31:06,200
"I have a man down here, he's
bunking down here at the end.

581
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,233
"Harry, go down and get
him like you always do

582
00:31:08,233 --> 00:31:10,400
"and March him out front", okay?

583
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,267
And I sat up on the
side of my bunk,

584
00:31:13,267 --> 00:31:17,067
kind of assumed an inspection
'cause I was expecting

585
00:31:17,067 --> 00:31:19,567
that a general, an Air Force
general was gonna come in,

586
00:31:19,567 --> 00:31:21,700
I only had two
stripes at the time.

587
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:24,433
No more than like from
here to that wall,

588
00:31:24,433 --> 00:31:27,567
Range Four Harry
started peeking around

589
00:31:27,567 --> 00:31:32,567
the corner to see where I
was, 'cause he could hear me.

590
00:31:32,567 --> 00:31:37,067
And I can't explain the
feeling of terror that I felt.

591
00:31:37,067 --> 00:31:38,533
As I sat there I realized there

592
00:31:38,533 --> 00:31:41,067
was no point whatever
in panicking.

593
00:31:41,067 --> 00:31:46,067
Because if there was any
kind of encounter occurring,

594
00:31:46,833 --> 00:31:48,200
I'd lost already.

595
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,267
The best I could do was
just sit there in fear,

596
00:31:50,267 --> 00:31:53,500
begging God to protect me.

597
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:57,733
And he pointed this squarish
instrument at my temple

598
00:31:57,733 --> 00:32:00,800
and it half hypnotized me.

599
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,067
It didn't hypnotize me
the way he thought it did.

600
00:32:04,067 --> 00:32:06,633
As I stood up, I
had to take orders

601
00:32:06,633 --> 00:32:10,067
but I could still
remember everything.

602
00:32:10,067 --> 00:32:12,867
And they marched me out
to the to the flight line.

603
00:32:12,867 --> 00:32:15,067
One of the colonel's,
bird colonels,

604
00:32:15,067 --> 00:32:18,400
was worried that it
seemed to him like I

605
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,700
was remembering too much.

606
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:23,067
He said he thought
maybe it would be better

607
00:32:23,067 --> 00:32:26,333
if they had me stand
inside the petroleum oils

608
00:32:26,333 --> 00:32:31,333
and liquids shed that was right
there, in case I panicked,

609
00:32:32,067 --> 00:32:33,433
and marched me in there.

610
00:32:33,433 --> 00:32:35,167
All I could see
were the bare walls.

611
00:32:35,167 --> 00:32:37,733
For perhaps a half hour,

612
00:32:37,733 --> 00:32:40,467
they had me in there
for a long time.

613
00:32:40,467 --> 00:32:43,167
And then the general
said to the others

614
00:32:43,167 --> 00:32:46,833
that he was gonna show them the
rest of Indian Springs Base.

615
00:32:46,833 --> 00:32:50,167
He wanted to show them the
aircraft repair hangar.

616
00:32:50,167 --> 00:32:53,133
Harry was walking me
back to the building,

617
00:32:53,133 --> 00:32:55,367
so they were telling
Harry to hurry up.

618
00:32:55,367 --> 00:32:57,867
As I was walking towards
the barracks I now realized

619
00:32:57,867 --> 00:33:01,367
I was completely
unhypnotized and I was now

620
00:33:01,367 --> 00:33:05,500
had my own my own feelings,
and I was really confused as

621
00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:09,733
to what was going on, was I
dreaming or was this real?

622
00:33:09,733 --> 00:33:13,200
And down the road the bird
colonel had dropped back

623
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,167
and he saw me, and he
seemed very concerned.

624
00:33:18,167 --> 00:33:19,900
I decided that the
smart thing for me

625
00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:23,233
to do was to go back to bed
and let the colonel come get me

626
00:33:23,233 --> 00:33:26,467
because I didn't feel like
confronting a bird colonel.

627
00:33:26,467 --> 00:33:28,733
I wasn't ready for it, I wasn't
emotionally ready for it,

628
00:33:28,733 --> 00:33:31,433
so I went back in
and I went to bed

629
00:33:31,433 --> 00:33:35,500
and I covered up myself and
went to the fetal position

630
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,567
and said my prayers
and went to sleep.

631
00:33:38,567 --> 00:33:41,333
(sinister music)

632
00:34:09,067 --> 00:34:12,833
It took me almost six
months, I estimate,

633
00:34:12,833 --> 00:34:16,067
to overcome the fear
I felt when they came.

634
00:34:16,067 --> 00:34:19,067
At first, when things
like that would happen,

635
00:34:19,067 --> 00:34:22,167
I thought it was me dreaming

636
00:34:22,167 --> 00:34:25,700
or me having some
kind of brain problem.

637
00:34:25,700 --> 00:34:27,933
But as days went
on, I decided that,

638
00:34:27,933 --> 00:34:31,067
because they seemed
as human as I was,

639
00:34:31,067 --> 00:34:32,700
as real as I was,
they seemed to have

640
00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:35,367
the same emotions
and everything, that,

641
00:34:35,367 --> 00:34:40,367
to control my fear, that I
should start talking to them.

642
00:34:42,067 --> 00:34:44,067
One of the first
attempts was I was out

643
00:34:44,067 --> 00:34:46,267
at range three one
morning and I was tracking

644
00:34:46,267 --> 00:34:48,400
the balloon through
my theodolite

645
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,733
and I felt totally alone.

646
00:34:50,733 --> 00:34:53,333
I'd taken the reading and
as I was turning to the left

647
00:34:53,333 --> 00:34:57,433
to write on my form, my
reading measurements,

648
00:34:57,433 --> 00:35:02,067
this tall white lady in
a suit, not touching me,

649
00:35:02,067 --> 00:35:04,300
but virtually leaned
over my shoulder

650
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:07,100
to look through the theodolite
to see what I was looking at

651
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:08,500
with a pleasant
smile on her face.

652
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:10,267
Now I'm right here,
I think I'm alone.

653
00:35:10,267 --> 00:35:13,200
I've had no warning, I
haven't heard anything.

654
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,067
And when I turn, since
she's like right there.

655
00:35:17,467 --> 00:35:21,533
Well, I didn't jump in fear
because I had long since come

656
00:35:21,533 --> 00:35:22,967
to believe that,
for some reason,

657
00:35:22,967 --> 00:35:25,833
my mind didn't work
the way I expected it

658
00:35:25,833 --> 00:35:27,267
to when I was out there.

659
00:35:27,267 --> 00:35:31,933
My emotion was darn, my
mind's acting up on me again.

660
00:35:31,933 --> 00:35:34,100
So I finished what I was doing
and then I turned around.

661
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:39,100
She stood off aways, like maybe
as far away as this camera

662
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,433
and was just looking
at me smiling.

663
00:35:41,433 --> 00:35:43,800
She seemed to be having
the time of her life.

664
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,767
Her skin was as white
as a piece of paper,

665
00:35:46,767 --> 00:35:50,667
she had about half as much
hair as a human lady would have

666
00:35:50,667 --> 00:35:53,667
and it was platinum
white and very short.

667
00:35:53,667 --> 00:35:56,067
Her lips and her nose,
they were smaller than

668
00:35:56,067 --> 00:35:58,400
what you'd think,
her ears were smaller

669
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,600
than what you'd think.

670
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,900
But she otherwise could
easily just dress up

671
00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:04,800
and look like a human nurse,

672
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,833
and you wouldn't have
noticed the difference.

673
00:36:06,833 --> 00:36:09,967
Say like midnight in Las
Vegas where everybody looks

674
00:36:09,967 --> 00:36:12,700
a little weird, she could
have just walked in among us.

675
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:17,700
And she had on a slight
helmet and she had on a suit.

676
00:36:19,067 --> 00:36:20,300
And it's just that
because she was floating,

677
00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:22,900
like the suit gave her
the power to levitate,

678
00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:25,067
I thought it was me,
I thought my brain

679
00:36:25,067 --> 00:36:26,633
was malfunctioning or something.

680
00:36:26,633 --> 00:36:30,333
And so to control my
fears, I just smiled

681
00:36:30,333 --> 00:36:33,700
and said did you want
to look some more?

682
00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:36,833
It's okay, I'll stand
back and let you do that.

683
00:36:36,833 --> 00:36:38,800
I thought I was just
speaking to maybe

684
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,567
a hallucination or a brain,

685
00:36:40,567 --> 00:36:43,833
to try to control
my fear because

686
00:36:43,833 --> 00:36:46,633
when you're alone
out in the desert,

687
00:36:46,633 --> 00:36:49,800
even if you're afraid of
a rabbit, if you panic,

688
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,633
nothing nice is gonna happen.

689
00:36:51,633 --> 00:36:53,433
You're gonna kill
yourself running away from

690
00:36:53,433 --> 00:36:55,100
a rabbit or something, right?

691
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:56,633
So you have to
have total control

692
00:36:56,633 --> 00:36:59,867
of what you're gonna do next
in order to come back alive,

693
00:36:59,867 --> 00:37:02,600
even if you're just
jumping at your own shadow.

694
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,333
And some nights I did. (laughs)

695
00:37:05,333 --> 00:37:07,367
And so on the one hand it was

696
00:37:07,367 --> 00:37:10,800
a very pleasant
experience, meeting her,

697
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,567
but on the other hand I felt
tremendous disappointment

698
00:37:14,567 --> 00:37:17,133
with myself because
I had hoped my brain

699
00:37:17,133 --> 00:37:19,467
would last to be at
least middle-aged.

700
00:37:21,833 --> 00:37:24,433
(gentle music)

701
00:37:25,567 --> 00:37:28,567
Well, it's very easy
for me to, well,

702
00:37:30,633 --> 00:37:33,500
I lived it, it's like I can
remember every step back

703
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:35,467
to the weather shack.

704
00:37:35,467 --> 00:37:36,933
(mystical music)

705
00:37:36,933 --> 00:37:39,800
I was dazed and I was in shock.

706
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,067
There are so many ways

707
00:37:41,067 --> 00:37:45,167
that you can be caught
unawares and be afraid.

708
00:37:45,167 --> 00:37:48,500
And it comes down to a showdown

709
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:50,200
of how many different types

710
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,800
of psychological
defenses do you have?

711
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,900
Such as whistling in
the dark or making

712
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:59,767
a contract with God if I live.

713
00:38:02,567 --> 00:38:05,833
That's what was keeping
me alive. (echoing)

714
00:38:05,833 --> 00:38:10,833
* I hope that you will say
that I'm your loving man *

715
00:38:12,333 --> 00:38:17,300
* Make up your mind and do
what you're going to do *

716
00:38:19,167 --> 00:38:24,167
* It's up to you,
darling, it's up to you *

717
00:38:26,167 --> 00:38:30,967
* Baby, it's up,
it's up, to you *

718
00:38:30,967 --> 00:38:34,300
(mystical chorus music)

719
00:38:40,533 --> 00:38:41,833
- You probably don't realize

720
00:38:41,833 --> 00:38:44,433
how much humans
depend on each other

721
00:38:44,433 --> 00:38:47,667
to validate their experience.

722
00:38:47,667 --> 00:38:52,533
See, if you and I together
we're out here in this desert,

723
00:38:52,533 --> 00:38:55,800
and if a Tall White guard
were to just walk up

724
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,100
and say hi, how's it going?

725
00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:01,067
It would be so natural
for one of the two of us

726
00:39:01,067 --> 00:39:04,167
to say to the other
do you see what I see?

727
00:39:04,167 --> 00:39:07,367
And many humans base
their version of reality,

728
00:39:07,367 --> 00:39:11,433
their emotions and so on on
that type of interaction.

729
00:39:11,433 --> 00:39:14,233
And when you see a scout craft,

730
00:39:14,233 --> 00:39:17,733
alien Tall White scout
craft, intentionally blocking

731
00:39:17,733 --> 00:39:21,333
the road, making sure that
I didn't go any further,

732
00:39:21,333 --> 00:39:23,167
and it was now necessary for me

733
00:39:23,167 --> 00:39:25,100
to turn my pickup
truck around on

734
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:29,067
the narrow gravel road where
I was without backing into

735
00:39:29,067 --> 00:39:31,433
a cactus and
getting a flat tire,

736
00:39:31,433 --> 00:39:34,933
and keeping the wheels on the
road so I don't get stuck.

737
00:39:34,933 --> 00:39:38,700
And to do it, I'm gonna have
to make like a 13-point turn,

738
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:40,467
up and back up, up and back.

739
00:39:40,467 --> 00:39:42,067
And then as you're driving back,

740
00:39:42,067 --> 00:39:45,067
as I finally got my truck
turned when I was driving back,

741
00:39:45,067 --> 00:39:47,633
the 10 miles or so I was
too afraid to even look in

742
00:39:47,633 --> 00:39:49,500
the mirror to see if
they were following me.

743
00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:53,367
Then now you asked the
question were they for real,

744
00:39:53,367 --> 00:39:55,233
parked on the road
in front of me?

745
00:39:55,233 --> 00:39:57,967
When you were there, you
had to react as though they

746
00:39:57,967 --> 00:40:00,000
were real and they were real,

747
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,900
but now you can say to
yourself you can switch

748
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:04,133
to whistling in the dark.

749
00:40:05,733 --> 00:40:09,700
* Hallelujah

750
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:14,400
* Hallelujah, hallelujah

751
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,700
* Hallelujah

752
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:22,933
* Hallelujah, hallelujah

753
00:40:22,933 --> 00:40:25,433
* Hallelujah

754
00:40:32,267 --> 00:40:37,033
- I was 24-years-old and I had
just graduated from college.

755
00:40:37,033 --> 00:40:41,033
And my roommate wanted
me to go and celebrate

756
00:40:41,033 --> 00:40:43,967
the fact that we'd graduated.

757
00:40:43,967 --> 00:40:47,133
And in all the time
I'd been in college,

758
00:40:47,133 --> 00:40:49,433
I'd never been in a bar.

759
00:40:49,433 --> 00:40:51,333
I really wasn't interested.

760
00:40:51,333 --> 00:40:55,667
She said oh, I'm moving back
east, I'll never see you again

761
00:40:55,667 --> 00:40:59,767
so I went and we found
ourselves standing on

762
00:40:59,767 --> 00:41:04,133
the perimeter of a
huge dance floor.

763
00:41:04,133 --> 00:41:07,500
She said I'm pretty sure there's

764
00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:12,233
a guy who's coming across the
floor to ask you to dance.

765
00:41:12,233 --> 00:41:16,567
And I was terrified
because it was a slow dance

766
00:41:16,567 --> 00:41:20,067
and the idea of getting close to

767
00:41:20,067 --> 00:41:24,867
a total stranger was not
amusing for me. (laughs)

768
00:41:24,867 --> 00:41:27,200
But I wasn't going
to turn him down

769
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,967
because I realized what kind
of courage it probably took

770
00:41:31,967 --> 00:41:36,100
to just walk up to
a total stranger.

771
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:39,700
And, as a tall woman, I
really hadn't been asked

772
00:41:39,700 --> 00:41:42,400
to dance much at all.

773
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,133
Theoretically, we were dancing,

774
00:41:44,133 --> 00:41:46,600
but I didn't notice him
moving his feet much.

775
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,567
And he said, "What's your name?"

776
00:41:48,567 --> 00:41:50,100
And I said, "Marie-Therese."

777
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:52,633
And he said pardon
me, and I said, "Oh,

778
00:41:52,633 --> 00:41:55,067
"just call me MT,
everybody else does."

779
00:41:55,067 --> 00:41:58,367
I mean, even the dean of women
at the college called me MT.

780
00:41:58,367 --> 00:41:59,667
And then he said,

781
00:41:59,667 --> 00:42:03,933
"No, I mean you have a
last name, don't you?"

782
00:42:03,933 --> 00:42:07,300
And I said something which
I'd never said before,

783
00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:09,467
never thought
before, did not hear

784
00:42:09,467 --> 00:42:12,800
what I said until
it was out there.

785
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,800
And I said, "My name is MT Rice,

786
00:42:18,967 --> 00:42:20,267
"and I'm looking for
a man named Mr. Paddy

787
00:42:20,267 --> 00:42:22,900
"so I can be an
empty rice paddy."

788
00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:25,433
And he was just a
year back from Vietnam

789
00:42:25,433 --> 00:42:27,567
and he thought it was hilarious,

790
00:42:27,567 --> 00:42:31,733
and, very quickly, he said,
"Would you be an empty hall?"

791
00:42:31,733 --> 00:42:33,500
And I said, "Pardon me."

792
00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:36,900
And he said, "My name
is Charles James Hall

793
00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:40,267
"and I'm asking
you to marry me."

794
00:42:40,267 --> 00:42:42,400
And I said, "You're
crazy, I don't even want

795
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,533
"to dance with you again."

796
00:42:44,533 --> 00:42:47,233
And he said, "Would you
like to go out for pizza?"

797
00:42:47,233 --> 00:42:52,233
Well, I have a fast metabolism,
I'm always ready to eat.

798
00:42:53,433 --> 00:42:56,133
And as a poor student,
I was definitely in

799
00:42:56,133 --> 00:42:58,933
the mood for a pizza.

800
00:42:58,933 --> 00:43:03,233
And then a day or two
later he was taking me

801
00:43:03,233 --> 00:43:05,500
to meet his sister
and brother-in-law

802
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:08,467
and we were going to
play cards and visit.

803
00:43:08,467 --> 00:43:11,433
And I said, "You weren't really
serious when you asked me

804
00:43:11,433 --> 00:43:13,100
"to marry you the other night."

805
00:43:14,633 --> 00:43:16,167
And he said, "Well,
I kind of was.

806
00:43:16,167 --> 00:43:18,967
"You had a cynical
look about you

807
00:43:18,967 --> 00:43:22,500
"and I knew I'd only
get one chance."

808
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,767
And then he said very
quietly, "Besides,

809
00:43:25,767 --> 00:43:30,767
"God told me you'd be
my wife." (giggles)

810
00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:33,900
And we got married a
scant five months later.

811
00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:37,167
I said, "Well, you have
to grow some hair."

812
00:43:37,167 --> 00:43:40,067
He still had a military haircut

813
00:43:40,067 --> 00:43:43,100
and everybody had those
lamb chop sideburns

814
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:47,433
and I said, "It would be nice
if you lost a little weight."

815
00:43:47,433 --> 00:43:50,067
He gained 50 pounds just in

816
00:43:50,067 --> 00:43:54,233
that short year after
coming home from Vietnam.

817
00:43:56,900 --> 00:43:59,233
We were laying in bed one night

818
00:43:59,233 --> 00:44:04,200
and Charles seemed kind of
quiet, maybe a little morose,

819
00:44:05,867 --> 00:44:10,067
and we'd come from
a party, left early.

820
00:44:10,067 --> 00:44:12,133
And I guess the
people at the party

821
00:44:12,133 --> 00:44:16,600
were talking anti-war
stuff and such

822
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,900
and I think that's
why he was in a mood.

823
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:21,700
And he said those people at

824
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:26,700
the party have no
idea what it was like.

825
00:44:27,567 --> 00:44:28,833
And I said you mean Vietnam?

826
00:44:28,833 --> 00:44:31,100
And he said oh no,
that was the war,

827
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:34,100
it was pretty much
what you might expect.

828
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:37,467
Then he started telling
me about the terror of

829
00:44:37,467 --> 00:44:41,900
the extraterrestrials
coming into his barracks.

830
00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:45,067
I think the reason Charles
didn't tell me about

831
00:44:45,067 --> 00:44:48,300
the extraterrestrials
before we got married

832
00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:51,200
is perhaps he was a
little insecure about

833
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,200
what my response would
be, what I would think

834
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,067
of him as a person.

835
00:44:56,067 --> 00:44:58,700
And he said what do you think?

836
00:44:58,700 --> 00:45:03,067
And I said I never really
thought about extraterrestrials

837
00:45:03,067 --> 00:45:04,867
or whether they exist or not.

838
00:45:04,867 --> 00:45:06,633
And I really don't care.

839
00:45:06,633 --> 00:45:11,067
At the time I was just
young, happy to be married

840
00:45:11,067 --> 00:45:12,733
and looking forward to having

841
00:45:12,733 --> 00:45:16,600
a family once he
finished his college.

842
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,667
For the next 30 years,
we just raised a family.

843
00:45:20,667 --> 00:45:22,800
I have six children.

844
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,700
And then Charles came
to the end of a contract

845
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:31,533
and would eventually be
unemployed for 18 months.

846
00:45:31,533 --> 00:45:35,300
And I came into the
computer room when he was

847
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:37,767
a month into this unemployment

848
00:45:37,767 --> 00:45:40,300
and he shut the
screen real fast.

849
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:41,767
And I said what are you doing?

850
00:45:41,767 --> 00:45:46,267
And he said oh, I am
working on a book,

851
00:45:46,267 --> 00:45:50,067
for the past 18 years
without telling me about it.

852
00:45:50,067 --> 00:45:51,933
And I said really?

853
00:45:51,933 --> 00:45:54,933
And I read for about 20
minutes and I came back

854
00:45:54,933 --> 00:45:57,533
and I said we have
to publish this.

855
00:45:57,533 --> 00:46:00,300
Well first of all he
had to swear to me

856
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:03,433
that it was true
and he said oh no,

857
00:46:03,433 --> 00:46:07,300
I'm just writing my memoirs
for our grandchildren.

858
00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:12,067
And it actually got to be
a pretty heated argument.

859
00:46:12,067 --> 00:46:16,100
And finally I said
Charles, you're unemployed.

860
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:18,500
If the Men in Black
come to the front door,

861
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:21,600
you go with them, it's
free room and board.

862
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,600
And then he laughed and
he said you're right,

863
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,100
what do we have to lose?

864
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:31,800
You changed the name of
your friends in the book

865
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,267
to protect their privacy.

866
00:46:33,267 --> 00:46:37,167
Have you changed the Tall
White's names as well?

867
00:46:38,333 --> 00:46:40,433
- No, because I figure
that any Tall White

868
00:46:40,433 --> 00:46:45,067
that wants to sue me would
have to appear in court.

869
00:46:45,067 --> 00:46:46,933
I win either way, okay?

870
00:46:46,933 --> 00:46:47,767
(laughing)

871
00:46:47,767 --> 00:46:48,967
I win either way.

872
00:46:48,967 --> 00:46:51,767
Guilty as charged,
can we have pictures?

873
00:46:53,667 --> 00:46:56,367
During my lifetime I've
personally been in front

874
00:46:56,367 --> 00:46:59,800
of extraterrestrials of
three different types,

875
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,600
the Norwegians with 24 teeth,
the Grays from Roswell,

876
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,067
Tall Whites who I
encountered routinely out in

877
00:47:08,067 --> 00:47:09,933
the deserts here in Nevada.

878
00:47:09,933 --> 00:47:11,833
They're all
flesh-and-blood creatures,

879
00:47:11,833 --> 00:47:14,267
they all have men,
women and children.

880
00:47:14,267 --> 00:47:17,633
They're all surprisingly
like us, okay?

881
00:47:17,633 --> 00:47:20,467
Both my wife and I
greatly enjoy the seminars

882
00:47:20,467 --> 00:47:24,667
and talking to people and
book signings and so on.

883
00:47:24,667 --> 00:47:29,100
99% of all of our fans
are wonderful people.

884
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:32,400
Every now and then you
come across some fans

885
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,733
who have ideas of
their own to express.

886
00:47:35,733 --> 00:47:37,567
But I was in the service,

887
00:47:37,567 --> 00:47:39,833
I've been called every
name you can think of,

888
00:47:39,833 --> 00:47:43,267
some by my drill
sergeant. (laughs)

889
00:47:43,267 --> 00:47:44,633
I enjoy talking to everyone,

890
00:47:44,633 --> 00:47:47,100
no matter what questions
they're asking.

891
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:50,367
My books are very emotional
because when I lived

892
00:47:50,367 --> 00:47:54,833
those events, they were
very emotional events.

893
00:47:54,833 --> 00:47:57,333
It's not unusual for people

894
00:47:57,333 --> 00:48:01,567
to be interested in
tiny details that

895
00:48:01,567 --> 00:48:04,600
a person might not
ordinarily think of.

896
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,067
Did the extraterrestrials
care whether

897
00:48:07,067 --> 00:48:08,967
or not we save the whales?

898
00:48:08,967 --> 00:48:12,133
Precise distances
from my weather shack

899
00:48:12,133 --> 00:48:14,900
to my theodolite
stand and so on.

900
00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:17,067
Really small details.

901
00:48:17,067 --> 00:48:19,900
(whimsical music)

902
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:24,433
One time in 1966 when I was
stationed here at Nellis,

903
00:48:24,433 --> 00:48:26,300
one of the range
maintenance men,

904
00:48:26,300 --> 00:48:27,700
a very good friend of mine,

905
00:48:27,700 --> 00:48:30,300
he said he wondered
if they really

906
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:34,367
were as much like
us as they appeared

907
00:48:34,367 --> 00:48:36,067
or if they were
just so intelligent

908
00:48:36,067 --> 00:48:40,333
that they were smart enough
to appear to be that way

909
00:48:40,333 --> 00:48:43,967
so that us guys
wouldn't panic too much

910
00:48:43,967 --> 00:48:45,700
when they came around.

911
00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:49,133
Because meeting them for the
first time was total panic.

912
00:48:49,133 --> 00:48:50,733
Well first they have
to overcome their fear

913
00:48:50,733 --> 00:48:53,100
of humans before they can do so.

914
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:54,900
That's what I was all about.

915
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:59,233
I was a test human that they
could practice on. (laughing)

916
00:49:01,067 --> 00:49:03,533
Their hearing is way
better than ours.

917
00:49:03,533 --> 00:49:05,467
It's as good as that of a dog,

918
00:49:05,467 --> 00:49:07,500
and their vocal cords
can make all sorts

919
00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:10,067
of high-pitched sounds
that we can't hear.

920
00:49:10,067 --> 00:49:13,133
And I was listening
to that what sounded

921
00:49:13,133 --> 00:49:17,933
like western meadowlarks,
the birds singing.

922
00:49:17,933 --> 00:49:20,467
That's how it sounds
when the Tall Whites

923
00:49:20,467 --> 00:49:23,133
are using their
natural language.

924
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,933
The Tall Whites live
much longer than humans

925
00:49:28,933 --> 00:49:33,667
and they live like
600 to 800 years.

926
00:49:33,667 --> 00:49:36,300
The Teacher was
equivalent in age to

927
00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:40,467
a human lady, 21, 22-years-old.

928
00:49:40,467 --> 00:49:44,833
She had a little girl whom
she named The Butterfly.

929
00:49:44,833 --> 00:49:48,600
This was a very fun
name for her because,

930
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,300
on their planet, they
don't have butterflies.

931
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:56,300
There came a day in the
early summer of 1965 where

932
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,467
The Teacher's only
daughter, The Butterfly,

933
00:50:01,467 --> 00:50:05,400
was lost in the sagebrush
down in range one.

934
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,000
And the Tall Whites were
frantically looking for her

935
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,967
but they were looking
in the wrong place,

936
00:50:10,967 --> 00:50:13,000
they were looking
like five miles

937
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,767
or seven miles away
from where she was.

938
00:50:15,767 --> 00:50:18,867
The Nellis Base
commander apparently,

939
00:50:18,867 --> 00:50:22,467
on orders from the Pentagon,
I'm guessing, asked me

940
00:50:22,467 --> 00:50:25,800
to just make periodic boon
releases upon every hour,

941
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,333
hour and a half,
from range one and

942
00:50:28,333 --> 00:50:31,600
to phone him into the
Nellis Weather Station.

943
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:32,933
Of course, they were never used,

944
00:50:32,933 --> 00:50:34,300
there were no planes
using range one

945
00:50:34,300 --> 00:50:36,733
where the little girl was lost.

946
00:50:36,733 --> 00:50:39,733
And, of course, as usual, no
one ever told me anything.

947
00:50:39,733 --> 00:50:42,733
I was a low ranking
enlisted man.

948
00:50:42,733 --> 00:50:44,667
I only had two stripes
at the time and

949
00:50:44,667 --> 00:50:48,367
the general says go out and
take the weather report.

950
00:50:48,367 --> 00:50:51,800
So yeah, yes sir,
there's the only answer.

951
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,500
The little girl was only
stood like three feet tall.

952
00:50:55,500 --> 00:50:57,733
It wasn't just a
matter of finding her,

953
00:50:57,733 --> 00:50:59,767
it was a matter of getting
through the sagebrush to them

954
00:50:59,767 --> 00:51:03,067
because they're not big and
husky and strong like we are.

955
00:51:03,067 --> 00:51:04,267
They're very fragile.

956
00:51:04,267 --> 00:51:06,500
So they had to go
through the open lanes

957
00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:09,267
whereas a guy like me
can just trump 'em down.

958
00:51:09,267 --> 00:51:11,100
I was expecting it
to be a little girl

959
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:13,367
or maybe a rabbit or something.

960
00:51:13,367 --> 00:51:15,333
And as I was doing that,

961
00:51:15,333 --> 00:51:19,833
I heard all these meadowlark
sounds coming out,

962
00:51:19,833 --> 00:51:24,833
the equivalent of meadowlark
cheering or something, right?

963
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:28,133
And I was kind of in shock.

964
00:51:28,133 --> 00:51:32,067
And so, as I was leaving
the range one then

965
00:51:32,067 --> 00:51:34,267
The Teacher and her little girl,

966
00:51:34,267 --> 00:51:37,067
they wanted very much
to thank me for saving

967
00:51:37,067 --> 00:51:38,800
the little girl's life.

968
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,467
Well, there is no
way in the world

969
00:51:40,467 --> 00:51:44,100
that I was in any any emotional
state to stand anywhere,

970
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:46,633
that I just needed
to keep moving.

971
00:51:46,633 --> 00:51:49,867
And I got into my
truck and carefully

972
00:51:49,867 --> 00:51:53,333
and deliberately just drove
out and still didn't wait.

973
00:51:53,333 --> 00:51:57,067
You see, so now The Teacher
and the American generals,

974
00:51:57,067 --> 00:51:59,833
and the Tall White generals,
they now had this problem.

975
00:51:59,833 --> 00:52:01,700
How do you get Charlie
to just sit there

976
00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:03,300
and be thanked, right?

977
00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:08,300
I'm ordered to take the 12:30
in the afternoon balloon run.

978
00:52:09,467 --> 00:52:12,633
And when I finished
to go check the lounge

979
00:52:12,633 --> 00:52:16,867
to make sure that all the
windows are closed and stuff.

980
00:52:16,867 --> 00:52:19,067
And so then when I
went into the lounge

981
00:52:19,067 --> 00:52:21,967
which was empty and I
started to come out,

982
00:52:21,967 --> 00:52:26,067
I find the Tall Whites
collecting around me.

983
00:52:26,067 --> 00:52:28,267
And on the bunker road and

984
00:52:28,267 --> 00:52:31,933
so that blocking all
my escape routes,

985
00:52:31,933 --> 00:52:34,367
and an American
general and three-star,

986
00:52:34,367 --> 00:52:35,933
a one-star, a colonel.

987
00:52:35,933 --> 00:52:38,800
And what they're gonna do
is hypnotize me partly.

988
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,367
It's an electronic thing,
it's with microwaves.

989
00:52:41,367 --> 00:52:43,867
And that was one of their
weapons where they could

990
00:52:43,867 --> 00:52:46,300
just hypnotize a
person electronically.

991
00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:48,200
And she and her
little girl stood

992
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,567
there and very ceremoniously
and nicely said

993
00:52:50,567 --> 00:52:53,533
thank you Charlie for
saving my little girl

994
00:52:53,533 --> 00:52:56,700
and the American
general said well,

995
00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:57,933
we've been nice to Charlie,

996
00:52:57,933 --> 00:52:59,533
we gave him a tremendous gift,

997
00:52:59,533 --> 00:53:01,700
a three-day pass to Los Angeles,

998
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:04,567
which was quite a
bit for a young man.

999
00:53:04,567 --> 00:53:07,067
Yes, but this one
overcame his fears,

1000
00:53:07,067 --> 00:53:10,500
this one went back to help
her and save her life.

1001
00:53:10,500 --> 00:53:13,100
It's our way, we
have to thank him.

1002
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:15,400
And then they've
one-by-one went back out

1003
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,567
and leaving only me and
Range Four Harry there who,

1004
00:53:18,567 --> 00:53:22,067
he wasn't afraid of me and
we understood each other.

1005
00:53:22,067 --> 00:53:23,233
And then, at the very end,

1006
00:53:23,233 --> 00:53:25,700
he had me stand the
next to the wall

1007
00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:27,667
and sing one of my songs.

1008
00:53:27,667 --> 00:53:30,067
And then he unhypnotized
me and he said

1009
00:53:30,067 --> 00:53:33,233
when you're finished the
song then you're on your own,

1010
00:53:33,233 --> 00:53:34,667
and then he left running.

1011
00:53:34,667 --> 00:53:38,767
And now after they all
went away, now fear set in.

1012
00:53:38,767 --> 00:53:41,200
I tried to phone
Nellis for help.

1013
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,933
Well, of course, Range Four
Harry was on the telephones.

1014
00:53:43,933 --> 00:53:45,967
I'm in here, I'm trapped
and he was laughing.

1015
00:53:45,967 --> 00:53:48,700
He was saying Charlie,
the stories you tell,

1016
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:50,800
you have had one
great afternoon.

1017
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,667
Your generals are so proud.

1018
00:53:52,667 --> 00:53:55,100
Just go to your truck and
drive in and have a nice meal.

1019
00:53:55,100 --> 00:54:00,167
And I didn't realize I was
talking to Range Four Harry.

1020
00:54:01,533 --> 00:54:04,367
(whimsical music)

1021
00:54:11,467 --> 00:54:15,933
But talking to the aliens,
they're always well-armed,

1022
00:54:15,933 --> 00:54:19,500
even if they're your friends,
they're always well-armed.

1023
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:21,067
And even if they're
your friends,

1024
00:54:21,067 --> 00:54:23,700
when they come, there's
always a certain tension.

1025
00:54:23,700 --> 00:54:26,267
And so whenever they
came, you always wanted

1026
00:54:26,267 --> 00:54:28,700
to be very cautious
and say now I'm going

1027
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:32,433
to stand up and walk
over there, okay,

1028
00:54:32,433 --> 00:54:33,933
even if they were your friend,

1029
00:54:33,933 --> 00:54:36,700
because you never,
never, never once wanted

1030
00:54:36,700 --> 00:54:39,300
to surprise them or scare them.

1031
00:54:48,633 --> 00:54:50,967
Like that one night that
they wanted to see me start

1032
00:54:50,967 --> 00:54:53,133
the diesel and
start the generator.

1033
00:54:53,133 --> 00:54:58,133
And so it was necessary
for me to stand there next

1034
00:54:59,333 --> 00:55:01,633
to the diesel and try to
adjust the electricity,

1035
00:55:01,633 --> 00:55:06,633
the generator part of it, while
the Tall White electrician

1036
00:55:07,733 --> 00:55:10,067
who was taller and
older than me could see

1037
00:55:10,067 --> 00:55:13,533
what I was doing
without burning my hand

1038
00:55:13,533 --> 00:55:17,200
or without moving in a panic.

1039
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,667
And he had to learn to do
that without moving in panic.

1040
00:55:20,667 --> 00:55:23,233
And so the two of us
had to learn to stand,

1041
00:55:23,233 --> 00:55:26,500
just like that there, and
for me to say well see,

1042
00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:31,500
I'm gonna adjust it to 60
cycles and 120 volts AC.

1043
00:55:33,133 --> 00:55:35,733
And see, this is
the circuit breaker.

1044
00:55:35,733 --> 00:55:38,067
And I thought the only
reason I was talking was

1045
00:55:38,067 --> 00:55:40,267
because I was so
frickin' afraid.

1046
00:55:40,267 --> 00:55:41,767
I thought well you
got to be careful,

1047
00:55:41,767 --> 00:55:43,933
you're gonna burn yourself,
because the manifold

1048
00:55:43,933 --> 00:55:47,100
is running red-hot
and I'm reaching in
between the manifold.

1049
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:48,667
And then there's
another guy there

1050
00:55:48,667 --> 00:55:51,667
and a guard right there who,
if anything goes wrong can,

1051
00:55:51,667 --> 00:55:53,733
cut me down at a minutes notice,

1052
00:55:53,733 --> 00:55:55,333
and another guard
out by my truck

1053
00:55:55,333 --> 00:55:58,267
and another guy standing
and reserve in case

1054
00:55:58,267 --> 00:56:00,267
there are enough men
there to cut me down

1055
00:56:00,267 --> 00:56:02,767
if I got out of line. (laughing)

1056
00:56:02,767 --> 00:56:04,533
To burn the building
or whatever.

1057
00:56:04,533 --> 00:56:08,233
And I'm saying my prayers
and it takes a while

1058
00:56:08,233 --> 00:56:10,967
to get used to the
idea that, really,

1059
00:56:10,967 --> 00:56:12,733
they're just ordinary people

1060
00:56:12,733 --> 00:56:15,867
and you have to
control yourself.

1061
00:56:15,867 --> 00:56:18,933
They're just like us and
they're afraid of things.

1062
00:56:18,933 --> 00:56:23,567
The Teacher, I asked The
Teacher why the Tall Whites

1063
00:56:23,567 --> 00:56:26,200
were afraid of me
and she explained it

1064
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,400
to me by saying well,
this is your planet,

1065
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,733
you understand everything here.

1066
00:56:31,733 --> 00:56:32,967
You can eat anything.

1067
00:56:32,967 --> 00:56:35,667
If you get in trouble,
you can lay out there in

1068
00:56:35,667 --> 00:56:38,400
the weeds and heal yourself
the way the Indians did.

1069
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:39,700
She'd seen it.

1070
00:56:39,700 --> 00:56:44,100
If you needed help, you
could ask any human.

1071
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:49,100
You can lift stuff, you're
properly proportioned.

1072
00:56:51,067 --> 00:56:53,433
You can lift rocks
and do anything.

1073
00:56:53,433 --> 00:56:56,567
But they, if they're even
stung by a bumblebee,

1074
00:56:56,567 --> 00:57:00,133
have to have immediate
medical help or they die.

1075
00:57:00,133 --> 00:57:05,067
The extraterrestrials that
I routinely interacted

1076
00:57:05,067 --> 00:57:09,933
with never once cared
about the whales.

1077
00:57:09,933 --> 00:57:12,133
The thing about humans
that stood out was

1078
00:57:12,133 --> 00:57:16,200
that we interacted with
the animals way way more

1079
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,100
than most intelligent beings.

1080
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:24,100
What happens is that the one
species becomes intelligent

1081
00:57:25,267 --> 00:57:27,867
and then kills off any
animal that might be

1082
00:57:27,867 --> 00:57:29,800
a danger to 'em.

1083
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,733
I grew up in Wisconsin
and I know how

1084
00:57:31,733 --> 00:57:34,067
to milk cows and ride horses.

1085
00:57:34,067 --> 00:57:38,067
Any one of those animals
could kill me at will, okay?

1086
00:57:38,067 --> 00:57:40,167
They're not as
intelligent as I am.

1087
00:57:40,167 --> 00:57:43,733
But I as the intelligent
being try to say well,

1088
00:57:43,733 --> 00:57:46,500
the horse is thinking
nicely, I domesticate 'em,

1089
00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:48,500
so I walk right up to him, see?

1090
00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:51,433
On most planets,
not all, but most,

1091
00:57:51,433 --> 00:57:54,133
the intelligent beings
are plant eaters.

1092
00:57:54,133 --> 00:57:57,067
And for them coming
up around an animal

1093
00:57:57,067 --> 00:58:00,067
that might hurt them,
they say we can't take

1094
00:58:00,067 --> 00:58:02,200
the chance and zap 'em.

1095
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:07,067
Every human I ever met was
afraid of them at first, okay?

1096
00:58:07,067 --> 00:58:10,667
The only person I ever met
that knew they were there

1097
00:58:10,667 --> 00:58:15,667
but didn't, at first, go
through a period of denial,

1098
00:58:17,067 --> 00:58:18,700
but for most humans it
was only one or two days,

1099
00:58:18,700 --> 00:58:23,500
for me it was a several months,
was one guy from Georgia,

1100
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:27,900
when he said that he'd got to
the ranges two years before me

1101
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:29,500
and he said one day
in the summer he

1102
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:33,067
was out at range four
looking for skip bombs

1103
00:58:33,067 --> 00:58:35,067
that pilots had dropped.

1104
00:58:35,067 --> 00:58:37,067
And he walked over to
one of the sand dunes

1105
00:58:37,067 --> 00:58:39,767
and there on the other
side on the sand dune next

1106
00:58:39,767 --> 00:58:44,500
to him or in front of
him was The Teacher

1107
00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:47,300
with her three
children, and they

1108
00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:52,067
were writing hieroglyphs
in the sand and having fun.

1109
00:58:52,067 --> 00:58:55,900
And when he came over the
hill, he surprised them.

1110
00:58:55,900 --> 00:58:59,067
He said he saw immediately
that they were real,

1111
00:58:59,067 --> 00:59:03,267
and since he was from Georgia,
he said, in his own words,

1112
00:59:03,267 --> 00:59:05,267
it didn't surprise him
because he always knew

1113
00:59:05,267 --> 00:59:09,200
the Yankee government would
be lying to southerners.

1114
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,933
(laughs) And he just stood
there and he saw immediately

1115
00:59:11,933 --> 00:59:13,667
that they were real
and he just stood there

1116
00:59:13,667 --> 00:59:17,500
and The Teacher got up slowly
and then, with her hands,

1117
00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:20,067
motioned the children
to take off running.

1118
00:59:20,067 --> 00:59:22,300
And then after they had
gone, then she smiled at him,

1119
00:59:22,300 --> 00:59:24,333
then she took off running.

1120
00:59:24,333 --> 00:59:27,133
And right then he said he
knew that they were real

1121
00:59:27,133 --> 00:59:30,467
but he was still
terrified of them, okay?

1122
00:59:30,467 --> 00:59:33,500
But he never went through
a self-denial phase

1123
00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:36,267
or the self-denial phase
was very, very short.

1124
00:59:44,367 --> 00:59:47,233
I, one time, asked the
teacher what her real name was

1125
00:59:47,233 --> 00:59:48,467
and she said if she told me,

1126
00:59:48,467 --> 00:59:50,167
I wouldn't be able to
hear all the sounds,

1127
00:59:50,167 --> 00:59:52,867
and if I tried to make
her pronounce her name,

1128
00:59:52,867 --> 00:59:56,433
I couldn't make all the sounds
so she wouldn't hear it right

1129
00:59:56,433 --> 00:59:59,500
so that's why they had simple
names like The Teacher,

1130
00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:01,967
like Range Four Harry.
- And when they're speaking

1131
01:00:01,967 --> 01:00:03,133
to you with their normal voice,

1132
01:00:03,133 --> 01:00:04,800
like we are speaking to you.

1133
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,800
- They could make
any sound they wanted

1134
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,200
but they had to learn
English so there was

1135
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,967
a simplest thing
the world for them

1136
01:00:11,967 --> 01:00:13,433
to call me on the telephone

1137
01:00:13,433 --> 01:00:15,633
and sound like anybody
they wanted to sound like.

1138
01:00:15,633 --> 01:00:19,800
And one of the first
decisions that I had made,

1139
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,167
and agreements that I'd
made with the Tall Whites,

1140
01:00:22,167 --> 01:00:24,267
The Teacher and
Range Four Harry,

1141
01:00:24,267 --> 01:00:28,900
was that I would never
pursue and they passed

1142
01:00:28,900 --> 01:00:32,067
the agreement around
to everybody that
if I saw them out in

1143
01:00:32,067 --> 01:00:35,233
the desert, I would
just stop where I was

1144
01:00:35,233 --> 01:00:37,833
and sing songs and make noise,

1145
01:00:37,833 --> 01:00:41,633
and then they could approach
me as close as they wanted.

1146
01:00:41,633 --> 01:00:44,233
And if that might only
be as close as a mile

1147
01:00:44,233 --> 01:00:46,433
and a quarter if they
were afraid of me.

1148
01:00:46,433 --> 01:00:48,467
And they could come
when they wanted,

1149
01:00:48,467 --> 01:00:50,367
they could leave
when they wanted.

1150
01:00:50,367 --> 01:00:52,467
I would never pursue,
I would never try

1151
01:00:52,467 --> 01:00:54,267
to close the distance.

1152
01:00:54,267 --> 01:00:56,000
And when they
closed the distance

1153
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,300
to where they felt comfortable,

1154
01:00:58,300 --> 01:01:01,300
if that was too close for me,

1155
01:01:01,300 --> 01:01:03,067
if they started
getting too close to me

1156
01:01:03,067 --> 01:01:06,867
which sometimes happened and
I didn't feel comfortable,

1157
01:01:06,867 --> 01:01:09,067
that I would start backing away,

1158
01:01:09,067 --> 01:01:11,167
and they would stop
where they were

1159
01:01:11,167 --> 01:01:13,100
and they wouldn't pursue.

1160
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:16,667
And when the two of us had
me, or me and the group,

1161
01:01:16,667 --> 01:01:21,200
had, in effect, agreed on
a distance to communicate,

1162
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,800
then we could communicate.

1163
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,133
They come for their purposes.

1164
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:31,733
The Grays, they were here first.

1165
01:01:31,733 --> 01:01:34,300
Their craft are good enough
to travel faster than

1166
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:37,500
the speed of light and to
reduce the forces of inertia,

1167
01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:39,800
which makes space
travel possible,

1168
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,333
but they're here just because
they think of this zone

1169
01:01:43,333 --> 01:01:46,400
of space where the
stars are and stuff,

1170
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:51,100
this area of the galaxy, as
kind of being their homeland

1171
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:53,133
or their stomping grounds.

1172
01:01:53,133 --> 01:01:54,867
They're not territorial.

1173
01:01:54,867 --> 01:01:56,633
There's no reason
to be territorial

1174
01:01:56,633 --> 01:01:58,467
if you can travel in space

1175
01:01:58,467 --> 01:02:00,933
because there are so
many earth-like planets

1176
01:02:00,933 --> 01:02:03,067
with no intelligent
beings on 'em.

1177
01:02:03,067 --> 01:02:05,667
There's little point in
fighting over any one of them.

1178
01:02:05,667 --> 01:02:08,967
And so as long as nothing
happens in this zone

1179
01:02:08,967 --> 01:02:12,433
that would threaten
them or their children,

1180
01:02:12,433 --> 01:02:14,433
they kind of turn a deaf ear.

1181
01:02:14,433 --> 01:02:17,067
But if there were anything
here that might threaten

1182
01:02:17,067 --> 01:02:19,833
their children, the
Gray generals live in

1183
01:02:19,833 --> 01:02:23,267
the world with absolutely
no rules other than

1184
01:02:23,267 --> 01:02:25,633
the ones they
choose to maintain.

1185
01:02:25,633 --> 01:02:28,067
If there were any other
kinds of extraterrestrials

1186
01:02:28,067 --> 01:02:29,633
that would threaten
their children,

1187
01:02:29,633 --> 01:02:31,800
the Gray generals,
without thinking,

1188
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,800
without excuses,
without planning,

1189
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,233
would just go out and blast 'em.

1190
01:02:36,233 --> 01:02:37,900
The Tall Whites,
on the other hand,

1191
01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:40,767
have come from further away
and have the best technology.

1192
01:02:40,767 --> 01:02:43,600
When the Tall White
deep spacecraft come in,

1193
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,567
you say that spacecraft could

1194
01:02:45,567 --> 01:02:48,067
have covered 100
light years, okay?

1195
01:02:48,067 --> 01:02:52,067
Their home planet is
much further away,
I'm not sure where,

1196
01:02:52,067 --> 01:02:55,433
but I estimated that
their home planet was,

1197
01:02:55,433 --> 01:02:57,333
my best guess, coming from

1198
01:02:57,333 --> 01:03:02,067
a star something around
105 light-years away.

1199
01:03:02,067 --> 01:03:07,067
And something above the 21st
line of southern latitude,

1200
01:03:08,467 --> 01:03:10,833
it's a southern hemisphere star.

1201
01:03:10,833 --> 01:03:13,367
Because when they would
take off from Dog Bone Lake,

1202
01:03:13,367 --> 01:03:16,667
they would come out at about
10,000 feet from their base.

1203
01:03:16,667 --> 01:03:20,100
And the earth and the moon
and the Sun all became aligned

1204
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:24,067
when they powered up, they
would lift off, go straight up,

1205
01:03:24,067 --> 01:03:27,933
at between 8,000 and
12,000 miles an hour,

1206
01:03:27,933 --> 01:03:29,667
they'd just go pop up.

1207
01:03:29,667 --> 01:03:31,800
And when they got above
the Earth's atmosphere,

1208
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,800
somewhere around 120 miles up,

1209
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,300
then it was common for
them to stop in space

1210
01:03:38,300 --> 01:03:41,333
and then change
direction and head

1211
01:03:41,333 --> 01:03:44,067
for one of the other stars.

1212
01:03:44,067 --> 01:03:46,400
One of the stars that
would head for was

1213
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,767
a star in the
southern hemisphere.

1214
01:03:48,767 --> 01:03:51,800
And the Norwegians with
24 teeth that I spoke to,

1215
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,400
they described
their home planet.

1216
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,067
They said that
their home star was

1217
01:03:57,067 --> 01:04:00,700
a nearby star such
as Barnard's Star,

1218
01:04:00,700 --> 01:04:03,700
the fourth closest
star, or the next star,

1219
01:04:03,700 --> 01:04:05,267
whose name I can never remember,

1220
01:04:05,267 --> 01:04:07,933
it's like Wolf 379 or something.

1221
01:04:07,933 --> 01:04:11,600
And Barnard Star is at five
and three quarters light years,

1222
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:16,300
and the next star out is at
six and a half light years.

1223
01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:20,733
Their home planet was an
almost-perfect duplicate

1224
01:04:20,733 --> 01:04:24,367
of the earth, except that it
was running straight up in

1225
01:04:24,367 --> 01:04:27,667
its orbit and half iced over.

1226
01:04:27,667 --> 01:04:30,967
And they said that their
star was a red star

1227
01:04:30,967 --> 01:04:34,067
when frequently put out flares.

1228
01:04:34,067 --> 01:04:35,867
People would stay
underground for a while,

1229
01:04:35,867 --> 01:04:39,567
a couple of days 'til
the flare passed,

1230
01:04:39,567 --> 01:04:42,133
but otherwise, now
the Tall Whites liked

1231
01:04:42,133 --> 01:04:44,267
it much hotter than
we do, the Grays liked

1232
01:04:44,267 --> 01:04:46,067
it somewhat hotter than we do,

1233
01:04:46,067 --> 01:04:49,067
but the Norwegians were very
happy if it was 10 degrees

1234
01:04:49,067 --> 01:04:53,067
or 15 degrees colder than it
is here, than we do, okay?

1235
01:04:53,067 --> 01:04:56,067
They said that on
their home planet,

1236
01:04:56,067 --> 01:04:59,633
if you were at their equator,
the climate was similar

1237
01:04:59,633 --> 01:05:03,300
to the climate of southern
Norway or Sweden or of Finland.

1238
01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:06,333
The reason they
were coming here was

1239
01:05:06,333 --> 01:05:09,100
because the earth
was a better place

1240
01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:12,300
and almost the same
size, had a better sun.

1241
01:05:12,300 --> 01:05:14,433
They said that at
noon on their planet,

1242
01:05:14,433 --> 01:05:16,067
it looked like sundown on

1243
01:05:16,067 --> 01:05:18,667
the earth when you
have a red sunset.

1244
01:05:18,667 --> 01:05:21,267
Their technology just
barely allowed them

1245
01:05:21,267 --> 01:05:23,900
to travel in space.

1246
01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:28,067
Their technology had, their
technology allowed them

1247
01:05:28,067 --> 01:05:31,333
to remove the forces
of acceleration

1248
01:05:31,333 --> 01:05:36,333
and to accelerate the
craft without using rockets

1249
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,600
or whatever, just using some of

1250
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,733
the other force fields
unknown to Einstein,

1251
01:05:41,733 --> 01:05:44,467
but it did not allow their craft

1252
01:05:44,467 --> 01:05:46,933
to do high-performance
maneuvers or

1253
01:05:46,933 --> 01:05:49,233
to exceed the speed of light.

1254
01:05:49,233 --> 01:05:53,300
In order for there to be a
craft that travels in space,

1255
01:05:53,300 --> 01:05:57,067
it must have the
ability to remove

1256
01:05:57,067 --> 01:06:01,233
the force of inertia
when accelerating.

1257
01:06:01,233 --> 01:06:05,567
And it must have the ability
for its propulsion system

1258
01:06:05,567 --> 01:06:08,233
to leave nothing behind.

1259
01:06:08,233 --> 01:06:11,933
And that requires
streamlined flow.

1260
01:06:11,933 --> 01:06:16,800
But that craft be something
like an ellipsoid or

1261
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,767
a smooth-rounded saucer.

1262
01:06:19,767 --> 01:06:24,067
It can not have any
concave intersections,

1263
01:06:24,067 --> 01:06:28,967
it can't have any intersections
like this microphone.

1264
01:06:28,967 --> 01:06:31,567
It has to be smooth otherwise

1265
01:06:31,567 --> 01:06:36,300
the force field will
go turbulent and
then it'll seem like

1266
01:06:36,300 --> 01:06:39,200
the mass is going to infinity.

1267
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,667
(whimsical music)

1268
01:06:41,667 --> 01:06:46,233
The Tall White craft come in
on the night of the full moon.

1269
01:06:46,233 --> 01:06:49,733
The moon, the earth and
the sun are lined up,

1270
01:06:49,733 --> 01:06:51,400
and at sundown,
you're coming in on

1271
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,733
the trailing part of the earth.

1272
01:06:53,733 --> 01:06:58,100
As the earth moves in its
orbit, you're following it.

1273
01:06:58,100 --> 01:07:01,233
Even though the moon
is smaller than the sun

1274
01:07:01,233 --> 01:07:04,633
because it's closer, you
have a region in space where

1275
01:07:04,633 --> 01:07:08,433
the gravity field is
smooth with no bumps.

1276
01:07:08,433 --> 01:07:10,633
And the earth is
moving away from you.

1277
01:07:11,533 --> 01:07:13,667
And so, when you're coming in,

1278
01:07:13,667 --> 01:07:15,967
you can sync up with
the movement of the sun

1279
01:07:15,967 --> 01:07:18,333
and the Earth, and then
you keep backing off

1280
01:07:18,333 --> 01:07:22,200
and let the Earth's
gravity pull you in, okay?

1281
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:26,933
This happens at speeds of
8,000 to 12,000 miles an hour.

1282
01:07:26,933 --> 01:07:29,400
So when you come in,
the deep spacecraft of

1283
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,233
the Tall Whites will
come in and just stop on

1284
01:07:32,233 --> 01:07:35,167
a dime at 10,000 feet, okay?

1285
01:07:35,167 --> 01:07:39,367
This is different than if
you're trying to land when

1286
01:07:39,367 --> 01:07:42,067
the moon is in
the third quarter.

1287
01:07:42,067 --> 01:07:45,833
When the moon is leading
the Earth in its orbit.

1288
01:07:45,833 --> 01:07:48,667
No spacecraft pilot,

1289
01:07:48,667 --> 01:07:51,667
coming here from another
star worth his salt,

1290
01:07:51,667 --> 01:07:55,333
ever wants to get caught
in between the Earth

1291
01:07:55,333 --> 01:07:57,600
and the moon when
the moon is leading

1292
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,533
the Earth in its orbit,
because that's a mouse trap.

1293
01:08:01,533 --> 01:08:03,500
If you go in between there,

1294
01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:07,267
your spacecraft
must work perfectly

1295
01:08:07,267 --> 01:08:09,067
or you're gonna be dead.

1296
01:08:09,067 --> 01:08:11,600
Because with the Earth
coming towards you,

1297
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,333
you can't back off, see?

1298
01:08:14,333 --> 01:08:16,467
And if there's any
problem with the coils,

1299
01:08:16,467 --> 01:08:19,067
if they're running hot
or anything's wrong,

1300
01:08:19,067 --> 01:08:21,200
then the Earth is
gonna run into you.

1301
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,467
And so the pilots of
the deep space craft

1302
01:08:23,467 --> 01:08:27,800
are extremely conscious
of the phase of the moon.

1303
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,633
(whimsical music)

1304
01:08:32,633 --> 01:08:35,100
Not even the aliens
can repair their craft

1305
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:36,900
if they're out in the wild.

1306
01:08:36,900 --> 01:08:40,400
All of them need
to have a hangar.

1307
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,967
It's because the materials
that things are made out of,

1308
01:08:43,967 --> 01:08:47,100
the plastic, the
metal and so on, see,

1309
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:49,433
at room temperatures,
it's easy to work with,

1310
01:08:49,433 --> 01:08:51,167
but if it's too hot or too cold,

1311
01:08:51,167 --> 01:08:53,200
then it's hard to build stuff.

1312
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:57,300
Like you could never
build a car out on

1313
01:08:57,300 --> 01:09:01,067
a glacier in Antarctica because
the materials are too cold.

1314
01:09:01,067 --> 01:09:04,167
You'll want to take, if a car
or an airplane were injured,

1315
01:09:04,167 --> 01:09:06,400
repairing it out in that
atmosphere is really,

1316
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,467
out in that environment
is really tough.

1317
01:09:08,467 --> 01:09:10,200
You wanna bring it
back to a repair site

1318
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,200
and that alien craft
is the same way.

1319
01:09:15,867 --> 01:09:20,867
In 1965, it appeared to me,
based on just what I saw,

1320
01:09:22,067 --> 01:09:24,767
that the US government had given

1321
01:09:24,767 --> 01:09:29,067
the Tall Whites the
base at Indian Springs.

1322
01:09:29,067 --> 01:09:33,167
The agreement was that they
would help us in any way

1323
01:09:33,167 --> 01:09:37,833
that they wanted to, not
necessarily any way they could,

1324
01:09:37,833 --> 01:09:41,267
and that we would help
them in any way we could.

1325
01:09:41,267 --> 01:09:44,700
And so, for example,
the Tall Whites,

1326
01:09:44,700 --> 01:09:47,467
there were parts
of their technology

1327
01:09:47,467 --> 01:09:49,867
that they did not wish to share

1328
01:09:49,867 --> 01:09:53,433
with us such as their
engine technology.

1329
01:09:55,367 --> 01:09:57,067
There were parts that
they were willing

1330
01:09:57,067 --> 01:10:00,100
to share with us because
that would allow them

1331
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:04,600
to buy the parts off
the shelf, if you will,

1332
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,500
and use to repair
their own spacecraft.

1333
01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:11,700
So where their interest
and ours overlapped,

1334
01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:13,300
they were willing to share.

1335
01:10:13,300 --> 01:10:16,433
Food was the big one,
clothes was a big one.

1336
01:10:16,433 --> 01:10:19,233
I don't know of any
specific technology

1337
01:10:19,233 --> 01:10:21,167
that we received from them

1338
01:10:21,167 --> 01:10:24,900
because I was never part
of any of those programs.

1339
01:10:24,900 --> 01:10:26,600
I was the weather observer.

1340
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,000
But, for example, the
night the deep space craft

1341
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,600
that had damage,
which appeared to me

1342
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,900
to be meteor damage,
the night it came in.

1343
01:10:35,900 --> 01:10:39,033
It was obvious that
one of the things they

1344
01:10:39,033 --> 01:10:42,200
were gonna need was
high-grade titanium

1345
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:46,900
to do repairs on the
interior of the ship.

1346
01:10:46,900 --> 01:10:49,300
When you looked through the
windows of the ship as I did,

1347
01:10:49,300 --> 01:10:53,700
from a short distance,
like 50 feet,

1348
01:10:53,700 --> 01:10:57,733
the interior of the deep
space craft had corridors,

1349
01:10:57,733 --> 01:11:00,800
like an ordinary
Caribbean cruise liner.

1350
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,467
And the damage included
damage to the walls.

1351
01:11:04,467 --> 01:11:08,933
And so the metal repair parts
like aluminum and titanium

1352
01:11:08,933 --> 01:11:11,700
and so on, they could
get from the Americans.

1353
01:11:11,700 --> 01:11:14,100
So the Americans
might give them, say,

1354
01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:17,167
pieces of aluminum cut
to certain dimensions,

1355
01:11:17,167 --> 01:11:18,633
pieces of titanium.

1356
01:11:18,633 --> 01:11:22,900
This apparently also
included fiber optics built

1357
01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:25,300
to this alien specifications,

1358
01:11:26,533 --> 01:11:29,233
because many of the
coils were damaged.

1359
01:11:29,233 --> 01:11:33,067
And they might actually
need my rough estimate,

1360
01:11:33,067 --> 01:11:37,433
a thousand miles of fiber
optics to do the repairs.

1361
01:11:37,433 --> 01:11:40,733
The scientist doing
the work never has

1362
01:11:40,733 --> 01:11:43,900
to be told that there
are extraterrestrials,

1363
01:11:43,900 --> 01:11:45,767
it's gonna be used
in space, right?

1364
01:11:45,767 --> 01:11:50,733
Can your radio be delivered
in three parts, okay?

1365
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,367
So you have an
integrated circuit board

1366
01:11:53,367 --> 01:11:55,100
but can you have that circuit
board in three different ones

1367
01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:57,367
so we could just take
out, and could we put in

1368
01:11:57,367 --> 01:11:59,467
a fourth circuit
board where we can put

1369
01:11:59,467 --> 01:12:01,133
in one of our own here?

1370
01:12:01,133 --> 01:12:03,767
Of course, that happens all
the time in the military,

1371
01:12:03,767 --> 01:12:06,300
sometimes for perfectly
ordinary reasons,

1372
01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:09,967
like shells on the battleship,
can you make 'em longer?

1373
01:12:09,967 --> 01:12:12,467
He just has the specs, okay?

1374
01:12:12,467 --> 01:12:16,300
And he doesn't have to be told
beans about extraterrestrial

1375
01:12:16,300 --> 01:12:17,767
or the spacecraft.

1376
01:12:21,833 --> 01:12:25,133
The repairs on that ship
took more than six months,

1377
01:12:25,133 --> 01:12:30,133
and when they finally had it
ready for shakedown trials

1378
01:12:31,267 --> 01:12:34,133
to take out to
the moon and back,

1379
01:12:34,133 --> 01:12:35,867
the first time they took it out

1380
01:12:35,867 --> 01:12:38,200
to 10,000 feet
over Dog Bone Lake

1381
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,100
and just to see how well
they can control it,

1382
01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:43,200
and then they took
it back to the hangar

1383
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,933
and then a couple weeks later,

1384
01:12:44,933 --> 01:12:47,767
they took it with
the crew on board.

1385
01:12:49,900 --> 01:12:52,067
- Thank you.
- Thank you so much.

1386
01:12:52,067 --> 01:12:53,633
- Oh, well, thank you.

1387
01:12:53,633 --> 01:12:55,300
(applauding)

1388
01:12:55,300 --> 01:12:56,867
All right, let's see.

1389
01:12:56,867 --> 01:12:58,167
(coughing)

1390
01:12:58,167 --> 01:13:00,667
I'm not in very good health.

1391
01:13:00,667 --> 01:13:05,633
I used to be able to talk for
three days without gasping

1392
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,600
for breath and now I'm
down to a mere 24 hours.

1393
01:13:10,300 --> 01:13:13,600
I'm trying to make the
hallucination go away.

1394
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,567
Then he stopped and the
look on his face was one

1395
01:13:16,567 --> 01:13:20,100
of tremendous
disappointment with me.

1396
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:24,533
Gee, I thought you were
brighter than that, you know?

1397
01:13:26,833 --> 01:13:29,400
(gentle music)

1398
01:14:24,767 --> 01:14:27,267
(eerie music)

1399
01:14:41,133 --> 01:14:43,533
- [Radio] I see that thing too.

1400
01:14:43,533 --> 01:14:45,067
But if there's,
look at that thing.

1401
01:14:45,067 --> 01:14:46,467
It's fascinating.

1402
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,800
- I remember those films
and I watched them,

1403
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,600
the ones with the
white Tic Tacs.

1404
01:14:56,300 --> 01:15:01,300
It appears to me that those
are perfectly authentic.

1405
01:15:01,300 --> 01:15:03,800
But those white Tic
Tacs, that is what

1406
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,433
a Tall White scout
craft looks like.

1407
01:15:07,433 --> 01:15:12,433
The pilot of the craft,
when he's chasing them,

1408
01:15:13,533 --> 01:15:15,067
he doesn't have a
prayer of catching them

1409
01:15:15,067 --> 01:15:19,700
because they were able to
accelerate too fast, okay?

1410
01:15:20,567 --> 01:15:21,800
It means that their scout craft

1411
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,100
would undoubtedly be
running powered up

1412
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:30,100
to protect themself from
accidents and stuff like that.

1413
01:15:31,267 --> 01:15:35,533
But it also means that
the pilot was only told

1414
01:15:37,300 --> 01:15:40,800
what he needed to be told.

1415
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,633
Namely, go out and fly
your airplane, okay?

1416
01:15:44,633 --> 01:15:47,833
So I think of that,
it's my belief

1417
01:15:47,833 --> 01:15:50,900
that those films were
perfectly authentic.

1418
01:15:54,467 --> 01:15:55,967
(light music)

1419
01:15:55,967 --> 01:15:58,433
One of the topics I used to hear

1420
01:15:58,433 --> 01:16:01,667
the American generals
talking about with

1421
01:16:01,667 --> 01:16:06,067
the Tall White generals
was the existence

1422
01:16:06,067 --> 01:16:10,067
of earth-like planets nearby,

1423
01:16:11,233 --> 01:16:14,267
nearby being within
10 light-years or so,

1424
01:16:14,267 --> 01:16:18,200
where intelligent life
had not yet evolved.

1425
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,400
They said there were several,
like a half dozen or so.

1426
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,567
The Tall White generals
said that, on these planets,

1427
01:16:24,567 --> 01:16:27,900
they had tried to put
on bases of their own

1428
01:16:27,900 --> 01:16:31,967
to support their
commercial activity.

1429
01:16:31,967 --> 01:16:35,700
So they have a safe
place for their craft

1430
01:16:35,700 --> 01:16:39,100
to put in and repair, and
that they had not been able

1431
01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:42,467
to because the planets
were running as cold as

1432
01:16:42,467 --> 01:16:44,500
the earth or colder.

1433
01:16:44,500 --> 01:16:49,100
And the Tall Whites come
from a very warm planet

1434
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:51,533
and they like it a lot hotter.

1435
01:16:51,533 --> 01:16:56,200
And they offered to
give these planets,

1436
01:16:56,200 --> 01:17:00,400
to give them lock, stock
and barrel, these planets,

1437
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,100
to the American generals.

1438
01:17:03,100 --> 01:17:06,400
And in return, they wanted
the American generals

1439
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:11,267
to build, on each
planet, just one base for

1440
01:17:11,267 --> 01:17:14,233
the Tall Whites so
that they had a place

1441
01:17:14,233 --> 01:17:18,067
to put in with their deep
spacecraft to repair,

1442
01:17:18,067 --> 01:17:21,200
refuel and refurbish
before standing out

1443
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,700
to deep space again.

1444
01:17:23,700 --> 01:17:27,267
And the American generals
were very keen on colonizing

1445
01:17:27,267 --> 01:17:30,433
these planets, the
discussion revolved around

1446
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how you get there and get
back, who owns the bus?

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01:17:36,867 --> 01:17:38,800
The Tall White generals did
not want to directly share

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the deep space
propulsion technology,

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01:17:43,300 --> 01:17:47,333
so the Tall Whites wanted to
be in charge of the buses,

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01:17:47,333 --> 01:17:51,733
this craft to go from Earth
to these planets and back.

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01:17:51,733 --> 01:17:56,467
The American generals wanted
to have buses of their own.

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01:17:56,467 --> 01:18:01,467
The discussions were very
pleasant and very friendly,

1453
01:18:02,567 --> 01:18:04,067
but the American
generals wanted there

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01:18:04,067 --> 01:18:08,500
to be a path to where they
would have their own buses.

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01:18:08,500 --> 01:18:13,200
The Tall White
generals said that if

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01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:17,533
the American generals agreed,
in order to build the bases,

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01:18:17,533 --> 01:18:21,533
it would be necessary
for the Tall Whites

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to bring some material,
specialized materials,

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from their other planets
to construct the base with.

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01:18:30,300 --> 01:18:33,200
I don't know how that
discussion turned out

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01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:37,300
but I can not imagine
that the American generals

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would have said no purely
on the transportation issue.

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01:18:43,433 --> 01:18:45,667
And so one of the things
that I wonder about

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is whether or not that process

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01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:52,667
is in play about whether
or not America is in

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01:18:52,667 --> 01:18:56,833
the process of colonizing
other earth-like planets

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01:18:56,833 --> 01:19:01,300
that are nearby, say like
eight, 10 light years away,

1468
01:19:01,300 --> 01:19:03,933
but where there isn't
intelligent life,

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01:19:03,933 --> 01:19:08,267
there's just life the way it
looks, say, during the Ice Age.

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01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,300
And with the
privatization of space,

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01:19:13,300 --> 01:19:17,333
with private companies building
rockets to go into space,

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01:19:17,333 --> 01:19:20,900
into orbit, you have a
lot more people going up

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01:19:20,900 --> 01:19:22,333
and looking around.

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There's far more discussion
about intelligent life

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01:19:26,433 --> 01:19:30,700
in space from NASA, from
all sorts of things,

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01:19:30,700 --> 01:19:34,533
than used to be
the case in 1965.

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01:19:34,533 --> 01:19:38,967
People today are slowly
but surely being acclimized

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01:19:38,967 --> 01:19:43,967
to the idea that we are
not alone in space, okay?

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That there's other intelligent
creatures here, coming here.

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01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,200
Sooner or later that will have

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to be announced to the people.

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01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:54,067
It'll have to be
broken to them gently.

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,867
One day I asked The
Teacher, she was looking at

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01:19:58,867 --> 01:20:03,200
the stars and enjoying
herself, which she loved to do,

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01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:07,433
I asked her how she wanted
me to behave when they came.

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01:20:07,433 --> 01:20:08,900
And she looked at me and smiled

1487
01:20:08,900 --> 01:20:12,000
and said she wanted
me to feel honored

1488
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,900
and she wanted me to
enjoy being around them

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01:20:14,900 --> 01:20:16,533
while they were there.

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01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,900
I haven't seen them since
1967, that I'm certain of,

1491
01:20:22,900 --> 01:20:25,533
but I can't imagine that
they wouldn't be here.

1492
01:20:25,533 --> 01:20:28,600
I've had many reports
from other people

1493
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,467
who say they've seen
them here and in

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01:20:30,467 --> 01:20:33,533
the deserts north
of here and so on,

1495
01:20:33,533 --> 01:20:36,400
but it's my guess that
they're still here.

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01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:41,400
Since they came here about
5,000 BC, that's my guess,

1497
01:20:42,867 --> 01:20:44,467
I can't imagine that they
wouldn't still be here.

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01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,267
They were very focused
on what their needs were.

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01:20:50,700 --> 01:20:52,700
There always had to be
something in it for them.

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01:20:53,900 --> 01:20:55,933
I can't imagine they
would have any reason

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to actually come and see me.

1502
01:20:59,900 --> 01:21:01,300
Now that I'm old.

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01:21:03,167 --> 01:21:07,100
And so, if they had a
reason to talk to me,

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yes, I wouldn't have any
problem meeting with them.

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(upbeat acoustic music)