1 00:00:01,958 --> 00:00:03,542 - Tonight on "The Proof Is Out There." 2 00:00:03,542 --> 00:00:06,333 We investigate a classic case from the 1960s. 3 00:00:06,333 --> 00:00:09,625 Is this a UFO flying next to an airplane? 4 00:00:09,625 --> 00:00:11,583 - It's got fins on both sides 5 00:00:11,583 --> 00:00:14,417 and then the fins kind of retract into the body 6 00:00:14,417 --> 00:00:16,417 and it disappears. 7 00:00:16,417 --> 00:00:18,542 - [Tony] A terror beneath the waves. 8 00:00:18,542 --> 00:00:21,458 What are these grinning beasts in Brazil? 9 00:00:21,458 --> 00:00:23,583 - If there are undiscovered creatures 10 00:00:23,583 --> 00:00:26,625 anywhere on the planet, Brazil is where we would find 'em. 11 00:00:26,625 --> 00:00:29,042 - [Tony] How did this ancient Roman artifact 12 00:00:29,042 --> 00:00:32,500 wind up in Mexico before the conquistadors? 13 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:34,042 - There are many people who believe 14 00:00:34,042 --> 00:00:36,125 that it may have been possible for Romans 15 00:00:36,125 --> 00:00:38,375 to have made that transatlantic voyage. 16 00:00:38,375 --> 00:00:40,542 - [Tony] A real life haunted mansion. 17 00:00:40,542 --> 00:00:44,208 Could this be the ghost of a 19th century Aristocrat? 18 00:00:44,208 --> 00:00:47,542 - The figure's legs are missing, and as it happened, 19 00:00:47,542 --> 00:00:51,917 Lord Combermere suffered a severe carriage accident. 20 00:00:51,917 --> 00:00:54,375 - [Tony] And a Bigfoot in Alabama? 21 00:00:54,375 --> 00:00:57,750 These guys say they got close, too close. 22 00:00:57,750 --> 00:01:00,500 [monstrous growling] 23 00:01:00,500 --> 00:01:02,958 - Made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. 24 00:01:02,958 --> 00:01:05,208 [dramatic music] 25 00:01:07,250 --> 00:01:09,125 - [Tony] Around the globe are videos, 26 00:01:09,125 --> 00:01:10,875 [witness screaming] 27 00:01:10,875 --> 00:01:12,250 photos, 28 00:01:13,167 --> 00:01:15,667 and sounds that defy explanation. 29 00:01:15,667 --> 00:01:17,583 [electric whirring] 30 00:01:21,042 --> 00:01:22,958 - [Expert] We don't know where they come from, 31 00:01:22,958 --> 00:01:24,333 who made them, or how they operate. 32 00:01:24,333 --> 00:01:25,625 - [Tony] What are they? 33 00:01:25,625 --> 00:01:27,542 - [MJ] Some sort of bizarre mutation. 34 00:01:27,542 --> 00:01:29,458 - [Marc] What's exciting is nobody really knows. 35 00:01:29,458 --> 00:01:32,667 - Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 36 00:01:34,625 --> 00:01:36,000 - I'm Tony Harris, 37 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,167 and as a journalist for more than 30 years, 38 00:01:38,167 --> 00:01:40,708 I've followed the facts where they take me. 39 00:01:40,708 --> 00:01:43,208 Now, I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 40 00:01:43,208 --> 00:01:45,542 to the world's strangest sounds and images. 41 00:01:45,542 --> 00:01:47,208 - [Witness] It's coming towards us. 42 00:01:47,208 --> 00:01:50,042 - [Tony] We'll analyze each one with top experts. 43 00:01:50,042 --> 00:01:53,167 - It's a credible case, it's a credible video. 44 00:01:53,167 --> 00:01:55,875 - [Tony] And pass a verdict on what it is. 45 00:01:55,875 --> 00:01:57,875 - This video was clearly faked. 46 00:01:57,875 --> 00:01:59,875 - The proof starts now. 47 00:01:59,875 --> 00:02:02,208 [dramatic music] 48 00:02:08,625 --> 00:02:09,708 Good evening, everyone, 49 00:02:09,708 --> 00:02:12,250 and welcome to "The Proof Is Out There." 50 00:02:12,250 --> 00:02:14,292 You know, some of the best UFO footage 51 00:02:14,292 --> 00:02:16,375 comes from airline passengers. 52 00:02:16,375 --> 00:02:18,250 A recent in-flight sighting 53 00:02:18,250 --> 00:02:21,875 near New York's LaGuardia Airport made headlines, 54 00:02:21,875 --> 00:02:24,375 but one of the most famous clips from coach class 55 00:02:24,375 --> 00:02:26,833 comes from way back in 1966. 56 00:02:26,833 --> 00:02:27,833 Take a look. 57 00:02:28,958 --> 00:02:32,292 April 2nd, 1966, 9,000 feet 58 00:02:32,292 --> 00:02:35,250 above Staffordshire County, England. 59 00:02:35,250 --> 00:02:38,625 It's Joan and Tom Oldfield's first time on an airplane, 60 00:02:38,625 --> 00:02:42,583 in this case a British Dart Herald turboprop. 61 00:02:42,583 --> 00:02:45,375 The couple captures the moment with their home movie camera 62 00:02:45,375 --> 00:02:47,875 by filming out of the plane's window, 63 00:02:47,875 --> 00:02:51,125 when they catch a glimpse of something otherworldly. 64 00:02:52,542 --> 00:02:55,292 The original eight millimeter film has been digitized 65 00:02:55,292 --> 00:02:57,083 and marked with a logo, 66 00:02:57,083 --> 00:02:59,792 but the anomaly it shows remains clear. 67 00:02:59,792 --> 00:03:03,958 Slowing down the footage, we see a long, sausage-shaped UFO 68 00:03:03,958 --> 00:03:06,042 on the right side of the screen. 69 00:03:06,042 --> 00:03:08,500 It appears to have two prominent fins 70 00:03:08,500 --> 00:03:10,083 on it's left and right sides. 71 00:03:10,083 --> 00:03:11,500 After a brief moment, 72 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:14,500 the object seems to rotate on its vertical axis 73 00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:18,208 before zipping away from the plane in the blink of an eye. 74 00:03:18,208 --> 00:03:20,750 - This film became known as the Oldfield Film 75 00:03:20,750 --> 00:03:24,250 and was sent to the British Air Ministry for investigation. 76 00:03:24,250 --> 00:03:27,208 It became very popular with British UFO enthusiasts. 77 00:03:27,208 --> 00:03:30,375 It even made news headlines in the United States. 78 00:03:30,375 --> 00:03:32,833 The Palm Beach Post published an article 79 00:03:32,833 --> 00:03:35,958 saying that it might be a return of a mysterious craft 80 00:03:35,958 --> 00:03:39,083 that had terrorized a small English town in an incident 81 00:03:39,083 --> 00:03:40,708 called The Warminster Thing. 82 00:03:40,708 --> 00:03:43,500 - [Tony] The Warminster Thing refers to a swath 83 00:03:43,500 --> 00:03:46,125 of UFO sightings in Warminster, England, 84 00:03:46,125 --> 00:03:47,833 in the summer of 1965. 85 00:03:49,125 --> 00:03:50,542 - There were a number of witnesses 86 00:03:50,542 --> 00:03:52,792 who saw different types of shapes. 87 00:03:52,792 --> 00:03:55,875 Some saw a cigar shaped alien craft like the one 88 00:03:55,875 --> 00:03:58,875 in the Oldfield Film, and others saw what they described 89 00:03:58,875 --> 00:04:02,917 as twin red hot pokers hanging down one on top of the other. 90 00:04:02,917 --> 00:04:04,542 - [Tony] It was a mass sighting. 91 00:04:04,542 --> 00:04:07,167 More than 400 people claim to have seen 92 00:04:07,167 --> 00:04:09,458 and heard what appeared to be a flying saucer, 93 00:04:09,458 --> 00:04:11,583 but officials remained up in the air 94 00:04:11,583 --> 00:04:13,708 about the object in the sky. 95 00:04:13,708 --> 00:04:15,958 - There are a number of military installations 96 00:04:15,958 --> 00:04:17,458 around Warminster. 97 00:04:17,458 --> 00:04:19,375 The government said they weren't doing any experiments 98 00:04:19,375 --> 00:04:22,333 at the time that could explain what the eyewitnesses saw. 99 00:04:22,333 --> 00:04:25,125 To this day, all of those Warminster sightings 100 00:04:25,125 --> 00:04:26,500 are unexplained. 101 00:04:28,958 --> 00:04:31,417 - What's fascinating to me about the Oldfield Film 102 00:04:31,417 --> 00:04:34,375 is the way the object spins and disappears 103 00:04:34,375 --> 00:04:35,917 in the blink of an eye. 104 00:04:35,917 --> 00:04:38,708 See how it just vanishes there? 105 00:04:38,708 --> 00:04:41,708 Could the Oldfields have seen the same craft 106 00:04:41,708 --> 00:04:44,250 that appeared during the Warminster Thing 107 00:04:44,250 --> 00:04:45,625 and not known it? 108 00:04:45,625 --> 00:04:49,375 Or was their UFO another kind of aerial vehicle? 109 00:04:49,375 --> 00:04:51,667 [tense music] 110 00:04:53,417 --> 00:04:56,167 Since this footage was shot in 1966, 111 00:04:56,167 --> 00:05:00,125 staging an event like this would have been extremely tricky 112 00:05:00,125 --> 00:05:04,042 because all effects would have to have been done in camera. 113 00:05:04,042 --> 00:05:06,167 - Now, it doesn't appear to be something that's affixed 114 00:05:06,167 --> 00:05:09,625 to the window because we see the edge of the window here 115 00:05:09,625 --> 00:05:12,250 and we see the object itself changes shape. 116 00:05:12,250 --> 00:05:13,750 So I don't think there's any way 117 00:05:13,750 --> 00:05:17,333 that you could actually fake this video. 118 00:05:17,333 --> 00:05:20,083 - [Tony] So if it's outside the plane and real, 119 00:05:20,083 --> 00:05:21,708 what could it be? 120 00:05:21,708 --> 00:05:24,417 We wonder whether the Oldfields could have captured 121 00:05:24,417 --> 00:05:27,542 a dirigible, flying alongside their plane. 122 00:05:27,542 --> 00:05:28,792 - The problem with dirigibles 123 00:05:28,792 --> 00:05:31,583 is that they would not keep up with the speed 124 00:05:31,583 --> 00:05:34,333 of the Dart Herald aircraft. 125 00:05:34,333 --> 00:05:37,250 They would've been actually outpaced very quickly. 126 00:05:37,250 --> 00:05:41,583 And here, it's moving at exactly the same speed as the plane. 127 00:05:42,583 --> 00:05:44,333 - [Tony] Given that they were filming through a window, 128 00:05:44,333 --> 00:05:45,583 what's the possibility 129 00:05:45,583 --> 00:05:48,458 they accidentally filmed a reflection? 130 00:05:48,458 --> 00:05:50,542 - Window reflections often cause UFOs, 131 00:05:50,542 --> 00:05:54,167 but the only things that reflect in windows are lights. 132 00:05:54,167 --> 00:05:56,708 Here we're seeing something that's dark. 133 00:05:56,708 --> 00:05:59,542 - It looks like it's right along with the plane, 134 00:05:59,542 --> 00:06:02,458 and I think that's because it's on the plane, 135 00:06:02,458 --> 00:06:03,833 part of the plane. 136 00:06:03,833 --> 00:06:06,083 It looks like they were looking at something attached 137 00:06:06,083 --> 00:06:08,000 to the plane itself. 138 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,875 - [Tony] What we're seeing could be a plane appendage 139 00:06:10,875 --> 00:06:13,625 that's warped by the convex edge of the window 140 00:06:13,625 --> 00:06:16,708 to look like a free floating object. 141 00:06:16,708 --> 00:06:18,917 - [Marc] We're talking about the Dart Herald aircraft. 142 00:06:18,917 --> 00:06:20,583 I think it's probably the horizontal stabilizer 143 00:06:20,583 --> 00:06:22,083 in the back of the plane. 144 00:06:23,167 --> 00:06:25,417 [tense music] 145 00:06:27,417 --> 00:06:29,792 - Our verdict, this is a part of an airplane 146 00:06:29,792 --> 00:06:31,417 that was distorted by the window 147 00:06:31,417 --> 00:06:34,125 and misinterpreted by the witnesses. 148 00:06:34,125 --> 00:06:37,958 In fact, one television crew even recreated the journey 149 00:06:37,958 --> 00:06:41,500 in the exact same seat on the exact same aircraft. 150 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:42,750 And what do you know? 151 00:06:42,750 --> 00:06:46,417 They saw the exact same UFO, or rather, 152 00:06:46,417 --> 00:06:48,625 the same horizontal stabilizer. 153 00:06:50,625 --> 00:06:54,125 Now I am going to show you some of the freakiest video 154 00:06:54,125 --> 00:06:55,667 I've seen in a while. 155 00:06:55,667 --> 00:06:59,292 A smile can convey warmth, humor, and happiness, 156 00:06:59,292 --> 00:07:03,208 but in a sinister setting, it can have the opposite effect. 157 00:07:03,208 --> 00:07:05,375 From the Joker, to Jack-o'-lanterns, 158 00:07:05,375 --> 00:07:08,458 to the pirate flag known as Jolly Roger, 159 00:07:08,458 --> 00:07:11,042 menacing grins can induce fear. 160 00:07:11,042 --> 00:07:14,083 Just look at the mysterious smirking creatures 161 00:07:14,083 --> 00:07:15,500 in our next story. 162 00:07:16,583 --> 00:07:20,583 May 2024, Mato Grosso, Brazil. 163 00:07:20,583 --> 00:07:24,125 A fisherman is on a quiet late night trip in his canoe, 164 00:07:24,125 --> 00:07:26,708 when he feels eyes watching him. 165 00:07:26,708 --> 00:07:29,875 He looks over the side of his boat and sees this. 166 00:07:30,875 --> 00:07:33,625 The video captures glowing red eyes, 167 00:07:33,625 --> 00:07:35,875 peering out from grinning faces 168 00:07:35,875 --> 00:07:38,500 lurking just below the surface of the water. 169 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:40,583 Take a closer look. 170 00:07:40,583 --> 00:07:43,042 Those eyes seem to hover in place, 171 00:07:43,042 --> 00:07:45,875 smiling eerily at the fishermen as he tries 172 00:07:45,875 --> 00:07:49,333 to placate the creatures with some snackable fish. 173 00:07:49,333 --> 00:07:50,875 It's a spooky site, 174 00:07:50,875 --> 00:07:54,083 taken in one of the world's most exotic locations. 175 00:07:54,083 --> 00:07:56,833 - The Mato Grosso is an extremely dense 176 00:07:56,833 --> 00:08:00,708 and unexplored region of the southern Amazon River Basin. 177 00:08:00,708 --> 00:08:03,708 And really, if there are undiscovered creatures anywhere 178 00:08:03,708 --> 00:08:06,792 on the planet, the Mato Grosso, is where we would find them. 179 00:08:07,917 --> 00:08:10,250 Looking at this video, I'm immediately reminded 180 00:08:10,250 --> 00:08:13,708 of a legendary Brazilian creature known as the Boiúna. 181 00:08:13,708 --> 00:08:16,083 Typically depicted as an immense serpent 182 00:08:16,083 --> 00:08:18,667 that's very dangerous, able to topple boats. 183 00:08:18,667 --> 00:08:21,042 It's also a shapeshifter 184 00:08:21,042 --> 00:08:23,958 and a protector of the Amazon rainforest, 185 00:08:23,958 --> 00:08:26,542 capable of taking the form of a human. 186 00:08:26,542 --> 00:08:28,375 And when we look at the human-like grin 187 00:08:28,375 --> 00:08:30,958 on these two creatures, one can wonder, 188 00:08:30,958 --> 00:08:34,083 are these Boiúnas attempting to lure this fishermen 189 00:08:34,083 --> 00:08:35,625 beneath the waves? 190 00:08:35,625 --> 00:08:37,042 - [Tony] Besides the Boiúna, 191 00:08:37,042 --> 00:08:40,375 a menagerie of real life monstrous serpents 192 00:08:40,375 --> 00:08:42,583 is well documented within the area. 193 00:08:42,583 --> 00:08:45,208 - There are many accounts of gigantic snakes 194 00:08:45,208 --> 00:08:47,083 from the Amazon River Basin, 195 00:08:47,083 --> 00:08:50,667 and perhaps the most celebrated involves the famous explorer 196 00:08:50,667 --> 00:08:52,792 Colonel Percy Fawcett. 197 00:08:52,792 --> 00:08:54,792 Now, back in the year 1907, 198 00:08:54,792 --> 00:08:57,125 he was at a place called the Rio Negro 199 00:08:57,125 --> 00:09:00,292 when he encountered this gigantic triangular head 200 00:09:00,292 --> 00:09:02,292 in the water and quickly realized 201 00:09:02,292 --> 00:09:03,708 that it was an Anaconda. 202 00:09:03,708 --> 00:09:05,750 He fired one shot into its spine, 203 00:09:05,750 --> 00:09:07,292 which killed it instantly. 204 00:09:07,292 --> 00:09:09,875 And when he and his companions were able to drag 205 00:09:09,875 --> 00:09:12,250 most of its body on the shore, they measured it 206 00:09:12,250 --> 00:09:16,083 and determined that it had a total length of 62 feet. 207 00:09:16,083 --> 00:09:20,708 So we're talking about the mother of all anacondas. 208 00:09:20,708 --> 00:09:23,875 Could these actually be giant anacondas here in the water? 209 00:09:26,958 --> 00:09:29,792 - In a popular story from one of the Batman comic books, 210 00:09:29,792 --> 00:09:33,583 the Joker poisons all the fish in Gotham Harbor, 211 00:09:33,583 --> 00:09:35,667 leaving them with a menacing grin, 212 00:09:35,667 --> 00:09:38,583 not unlike what we see in this footage. 213 00:09:38,583 --> 00:09:42,167 And while I doubt any Smilex gas was used 214 00:09:42,167 --> 00:09:43,667 to create these critters, 215 00:09:43,667 --> 00:09:46,208 let's see what our experts have to say. 216 00:09:46,208 --> 00:09:48,333 [tense music] 217 00:09:50,542 --> 00:09:52,375 Some have speculated that this is nothing 218 00:09:52,375 --> 00:09:55,958 more than some creepy looking catfish, but think again. 219 00:09:55,958 --> 00:09:59,042 - Whatever this is, is very, very large 220 00:09:59,042 --> 00:10:01,667 and there's no known catfish species here 221 00:10:01,667 --> 00:10:04,125 that would make sense for that size range. 222 00:10:04,125 --> 00:10:07,750 - A catfish mouth is actually downturned, 223 00:10:07,750 --> 00:10:09,708 and that's because they scoot along the bottom 224 00:10:09,708 --> 00:10:11,708 and scavenge a lot of food. 225 00:10:11,708 --> 00:10:13,500 The mouth on this fish looks like 226 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:15,875 it's maybe an ambush predator. 227 00:10:15,875 --> 00:10:17,375 - [Tony] Could these be predators, 228 00:10:17,375 --> 00:10:20,917 protecting the rainforest, like the legendary Boiúna? 229 00:10:20,917 --> 00:10:25,417 - The Boiúna is actually known to hypnotize its victims 230 00:10:25,417 --> 00:10:29,875 using its red glowing eyes and then drag them underwater. 231 00:10:29,875 --> 00:10:33,417 Instead, the person seems to be bringing these creatures 232 00:10:33,417 --> 00:10:35,667 to him by feeding them. 233 00:10:35,667 --> 00:10:39,042 And you're not actually supposed to see anything 234 00:10:39,042 --> 00:10:41,375 of the Boiúna except for its eyes. 235 00:10:41,375 --> 00:10:43,875 And we can tell this is some kind of an animal. 236 00:10:44,917 --> 00:10:46,292 - [Tony] If it's some type of animal, 237 00:10:46,292 --> 00:10:49,708 could this be one of the area's infamous anacondas? 238 00:10:49,708 --> 00:10:52,208 - If I was looking for a very large snake underwater 239 00:10:52,208 --> 00:10:55,250 like this, you'd probably see something called periscoping. 240 00:10:55,250 --> 00:10:57,708 You would probably see the neck coming outta the water. 241 00:10:57,708 --> 00:11:00,708 And in addition, the head of this thing is massive. 242 00:11:00,708 --> 00:11:04,208 If I was to see an anaconda with a head that big, 243 00:11:04,208 --> 00:11:07,542 the anaconda would have to be 80 plus feet. 244 00:11:07,542 --> 00:11:10,208 - While this may not be an anaconda 245 00:11:10,208 --> 00:11:11,708 or other kind of monster, 246 00:11:11,708 --> 00:11:15,042 what this is, is maybe equally terrifying. 247 00:11:16,083 --> 00:11:18,458 - I think this is most likely an arapaima. 248 00:11:18,458 --> 00:11:22,083 Arapaimas are massive fish found all throughout the Amazon, 249 00:11:22,083 --> 00:11:25,042 and these things get over 400 pounds. 250 00:11:25,042 --> 00:11:26,917 They can in fact cause injury 251 00:11:26,917 --> 00:11:30,208 and have been noted to cause injury in humans all the time. 252 00:11:30,208 --> 00:11:32,708 - There have actually been circumstances 253 00:11:32,708 --> 00:11:34,750 of people being knocked out by these fish 254 00:11:34,750 --> 00:11:36,708 jumping out of the water. 255 00:11:36,708 --> 00:11:39,042 - [Tony] The natural shape of the arapaima's mouth 256 00:11:39,042 --> 00:11:41,667 makes it appear to have a smile. 257 00:11:41,667 --> 00:11:43,708 And as for those glowing eyes... 258 00:11:43,708 --> 00:11:46,542 - They have a tissue on the covering of their eyes 259 00:11:46,542 --> 00:11:48,917 known as tapidum lucidum. 260 00:11:48,917 --> 00:11:52,500 And what that tissue does is actually reflect more light 261 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:56,917 into the eye itself to pick up more visual imagery. 262 00:11:56,917 --> 00:11:59,000 - [Tony] On top of that, these aggressive fish 263 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,250 can even survive outside the water for as long as 24 hours. 264 00:12:03,250 --> 00:12:05,292 - And they can also bite. 265 00:12:05,292 --> 00:12:07,875 They've been known to grab things like bats 266 00:12:07,875 --> 00:12:11,042 straight outta the air, or eat small mammals 267 00:12:11,042 --> 00:12:13,042 that are on the banks of the river. 268 00:12:13,042 --> 00:12:16,875 So I would say it's best to steer clear of these animals. 269 00:12:17,792 --> 00:12:20,083 [tense music] 270 00:12:21,542 --> 00:12:25,833 - Our verdict, these grinning jokers are arapaimas. 271 00:12:25,833 --> 00:12:28,583 As our experts explain, they can be quite dangerous. 272 00:12:28,583 --> 00:12:29,875 And don't think you're safe 273 00:12:29,875 --> 00:12:31,708 just because you're not in Brazil. 274 00:12:31,708 --> 00:12:36,208 In 2021, the carcass of an arapaima was spotted 275 00:12:36,208 --> 00:12:39,000 in Florida's waters, leaving some to wonder 276 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,167 if this non-native species has found a new home in the US. 277 00:12:46,875 --> 00:12:48,833 - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle is best known 278 00:12:48,833 --> 00:12:51,708 for creating the iconic character of Sherlock Holmes. 279 00:12:51,708 --> 00:12:53,625 And like his fictional detective, 280 00:12:53,625 --> 00:12:55,958 the writer was a bit of a sleuth. 281 00:12:55,958 --> 00:12:58,125 Tonight we're looking at a paranormal photograph 282 00:12:58,125 --> 00:13:01,875 so compelling, Conan Doyle himself considered it 283 00:13:01,875 --> 00:13:03,292 a true mystery. 284 00:13:04,542 --> 00:13:07,292 It's 1891 in Cheshire, England. 285 00:13:07,292 --> 00:13:11,042 At St. Margaret's Church, a funeral service is underway 286 00:13:11,042 --> 00:13:13,375 for the second Lord Combermere. 287 00:13:13,375 --> 00:13:15,958 Meanwhile, back at the late Lord's estate, 288 00:13:15,958 --> 00:13:19,750 a guest takes a photograph of his empty grand library. 289 00:13:19,750 --> 00:13:21,167 When the picture is developed, 290 00:13:21,167 --> 00:13:24,542 it reveals something unseen to the naked eye. 291 00:13:24,542 --> 00:13:27,792 At first, it seems there's nothing out of the ordinary, 292 00:13:27,792 --> 00:13:29,542 just a richly furnished room 293 00:13:29,542 --> 00:13:31,958 with an impossibly large bookshelf. 294 00:13:31,958 --> 00:13:34,417 But take a closer look to the left 295 00:13:34,417 --> 00:13:37,042 and you'll notice what appears to be a ghostly figure, 296 00:13:37,042 --> 00:13:39,708 seated on an ornate chair. 297 00:13:39,708 --> 00:13:43,000 It is the unmistakable outline of a man. 298 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,833 Note the suited upper body and the curve of a bald head. 299 00:13:46,833 --> 00:13:49,000 However, the legs on the specter 300 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,667 seem to be completely missing. 301 00:13:51,667 --> 00:13:53,250 The current owner of the estate, 302 00:13:53,250 --> 00:13:56,125 Sarah Callander Beckett, believes it's clear 303 00:13:56,125 --> 00:13:58,042 who we're seeing in this photograph, 304 00:13:58,042 --> 00:14:01,000 a man who was supposedly dead and buried. 305 00:14:02,042 --> 00:14:04,458 - When the photograph was developed, 306 00:14:04,458 --> 00:14:08,208 there was Lord Combermere sitting in his chair. 307 00:14:08,208 --> 00:14:10,125 And it is really remarkable. 308 00:14:10,125 --> 00:14:14,375 And if you see prints of him, it absolutely is him. 309 00:14:14,375 --> 00:14:18,625 I think the spirit was coming home to sit in a place 310 00:14:18,625 --> 00:14:21,125 where he would've always sat. 311 00:14:21,125 --> 00:14:25,708 - One detail that makes the story more compelling 312 00:14:25,708 --> 00:14:28,333 is that the figure's legs are missing. 313 00:14:28,333 --> 00:14:31,417 And as it happened, Lord Combermere suffered 314 00:14:31,417 --> 00:14:35,417 a severe carriage accident in which his legs were run over 315 00:14:35,417 --> 00:14:37,208 by a horse-drawn carriage. 316 00:14:37,208 --> 00:14:39,792 He was rendered partly paralytic, 317 00:14:39,792 --> 00:14:42,292 and the trauma contributed to his death 318 00:14:42,292 --> 00:14:44,167 at the time this photo was taken. 319 00:14:45,167 --> 00:14:48,042 - [Tony] The photo became an object of public fascination 320 00:14:48,042 --> 00:14:51,708 when it was released in a newspaper article in 1926 321 00:14:51,708 --> 00:14:53,875 by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. 322 00:14:53,875 --> 00:14:55,250 The subject of that piece: 323 00:14:55,250 --> 00:14:58,083 something known as spirit photography. 324 00:14:58,083 --> 00:15:02,208 - At the time, Americans and Europeans were obsessed 325 00:15:02,208 --> 00:15:06,125 with talking to the dead, holding seances, 326 00:15:06,125 --> 00:15:09,208 capturing evidence of the unseen world. 327 00:15:09,208 --> 00:15:13,542 And one of the efforts was called spirit photography. 328 00:15:14,958 --> 00:15:17,208 In spirit photography, the photograph was taken, 329 00:15:17,208 --> 00:15:20,417 but upon development, a ghostly apparition appears. 330 00:15:22,542 --> 00:15:25,750 - So-called spirit photographs were a thing back then, 331 00:15:25,750 --> 00:15:27,833 and so were spirit frauds. 332 00:15:27,833 --> 00:15:31,208 One of the most famous was the Englishman, William Hope. 333 00:15:31,208 --> 00:15:34,375 He was once caught tampering with photographic plates 334 00:15:34,375 --> 00:15:37,625 in order to manufacture a ghostly effect. 335 00:15:37,625 --> 00:15:41,500 Could our Combermere ghosts be another such forgery 336 00:15:41,500 --> 00:15:44,083 or could we be looking at the real deal? 337 00:15:44,083 --> 00:15:45,958 Let's ask our experts. 338 00:15:45,958 --> 00:15:48,167 [tense music] 339 00:15:50,125 --> 00:15:53,250 - One of the more common processes that photographers 340 00:15:53,250 --> 00:15:56,875 and other professionals began to utilize 341 00:15:56,875 --> 00:15:59,917 to fake situations in the 19th century 342 00:15:59,917 --> 00:16:02,458 was called a double exposure. 343 00:16:02,458 --> 00:16:05,167 - [Tony] Double exposure is when you take two photographs 344 00:16:05,167 --> 00:16:07,542 and overlay them to create one image. 345 00:16:07,542 --> 00:16:10,042 Like this photo of Harry Houdini sitting across 346 00:16:10,042 --> 00:16:12,333 from the ghost of Abraham Lincoln. 347 00:16:12,333 --> 00:16:14,083 Houdini took an existing plate 348 00:16:14,083 --> 00:16:16,042 with the image of Abraham Lincoln 349 00:16:16,042 --> 00:16:19,292 and using that same plate, he photographed himself, 350 00:16:19,292 --> 00:16:21,667 positioned as though he were right next 351 00:16:21,667 --> 00:16:23,292 to the late president. 352 00:16:23,292 --> 00:16:24,875 Is that what's happening here? 353 00:16:24,875 --> 00:16:27,333 Well, maybe, or maybe not. 354 00:16:27,333 --> 00:16:30,708 - I didn't detect any artifacts of that double exposure 355 00:16:30,708 --> 00:16:33,167 in and around some of the details like the books. 356 00:16:33,167 --> 00:16:35,083 But it doesn't necessarily mean 357 00:16:35,083 --> 00:16:37,042 that it didn't happen that way, 358 00:16:37,042 --> 00:16:40,583 especially because this particular subject appears 359 00:16:40,583 --> 00:16:44,375 to have a different visibility than the rest of the image. 360 00:16:44,375 --> 00:16:47,625 - [Tony] However, there's another key photographic detail 361 00:16:47,625 --> 00:16:50,208 that could account for what we're seeing. 362 00:16:50,208 --> 00:16:54,083 - This camera required a very long exposure time, 363 00:16:54,083 --> 00:16:56,417 and that's because of earlier cameras 364 00:16:56,417 --> 00:16:59,417 having less sensitivity to light. 365 00:16:59,417 --> 00:17:05,375 Long exposures open up the possibility of people, objects, 366 00:17:05,375 --> 00:17:09,750 and things crossing the field of view of the camera 367 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:12,875 and showing up as ghostly figures 368 00:17:12,875 --> 00:17:14,875 through a partial exposure. 369 00:17:14,875 --> 00:17:16,583 But also these older cameras 370 00:17:16,583 --> 00:17:20,708 are not gonna pick up every single motion during that hour 371 00:17:20,708 --> 00:17:24,167 or whatever length of time the exposure was. 372 00:17:24,167 --> 00:17:27,042 - [Tony] And that inability to pick up on motion 373 00:17:27,042 --> 00:17:30,042 might also explain the missing legs. 374 00:17:30,042 --> 00:17:33,375 In 2018, French photographer Mathieu Stern 375 00:17:33,375 --> 00:17:37,333 recreated the Combermere photo using long exposure 376 00:17:37,333 --> 00:17:39,958 and some simple, if silly, leg kicks. 377 00:17:39,958 --> 00:17:42,083 And here's the resulting photo. 378 00:17:42,083 --> 00:17:45,042 On long exposure, the camera can't pick up 379 00:17:45,042 --> 00:17:48,167 the constant movement of the subject's legs. 380 00:17:48,167 --> 00:17:51,417 - It's possible that you actually have intentional fakery 381 00:17:51,417 --> 00:17:54,375 where you create a ghost-like image on purpose. 382 00:17:54,375 --> 00:17:57,250 So I'm not convinced here that we're seeing a ghost 383 00:17:57,250 --> 00:17:59,208 or anything paranormal. 384 00:17:59,208 --> 00:18:01,458 [tense music] 385 00:18:03,083 --> 00:18:05,292 - Our verdict, camera trick. 386 00:18:05,292 --> 00:18:08,208 We think someone sat in the chair and moved their legs 387 00:18:08,208 --> 00:18:10,208 back and forth really fast, 388 00:18:10,208 --> 00:18:12,542 just long enough to create that image. 389 00:18:12,542 --> 00:18:16,042 But the owner of Combermere Abbey tells us 390 00:18:16,042 --> 00:18:19,167 there are other ghosts roaming its halls. 391 00:18:19,167 --> 00:18:24,583 Let's just hope they're not camera shy. 392 00:18:24,583 --> 00:18:26,208 - The national UFO Reporting Center has cataloged 393 00:18:26,208 --> 00:18:30,667 more than 13,000 sightings of triangle shaped UFOs, 394 00:18:30,667 --> 00:18:32,417 many going back decades. 395 00:18:32,417 --> 00:18:36,333 These alleged craft have been spotted all over the world, 396 00:18:36,333 --> 00:18:38,417 but the best evidence ever may have come 397 00:18:38,417 --> 00:18:40,458 from the great state of Kansas. 398 00:18:41,417 --> 00:18:45,542 April 16th, 2014, Wichita, Kansas. 399 00:18:45,542 --> 00:18:48,667 Amateur photographer Jeff Templin is in his lakeside 400 00:18:48,667 --> 00:18:50,875 community, testing out a new camera lens, 401 00:18:50,875 --> 00:18:54,083 when he notices something strange flying overhead. 402 00:18:55,417 --> 00:18:59,625 A crisp edged triangular craft soars across the sky 403 00:18:59,625 --> 00:19:03,417 with a two-pronged smoke trail stretching out behind it. 404 00:19:03,417 --> 00:19:05,958 As we increase the photo's contrast, 405 00:19:05,958 --> 00:19:08,917 we can see that the craft is like gray 406 00:19:08,917 --> 00:19:11,458 with the front edge making a stark V 407 00:19:11,458 --> 00:19:13,875 and the darker body almost blending 408 00:19:13,875 --> 00:19:15,375 with the blue sky behind it. 409 00:19:16,875 --> 00:19:20,375 This triangular object falls into a new UFO classification 410 00:19:20,375 --> 00:19:23,500 system established by the UFO Investigative Group, 411 00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:24,792 Sky-Watcher. 412 00:19:24,792 --> 00:19:28,542 Out of the nine UFO types, this would be a tetra, 413 00:19:28,542 --> 00:19:32,042 but it turns out Jeff's photo is only the beginning. 414 00:19:32,042 --> 00:19:34,167 - A second photo surfaced online 415 00:19:34,167 --> 00:19:36,208 depicting the exact same object. 416 00:19:36,208 --> 00:19:38,542 And after this image surfaced, 417 00:19:38,542 --> 00:19:41,583 a lot of people began making inquiries to the military 418 00:19:41,583 --> 00:19:43,875 to ascertain whether this was a military craft. 419 00:19:43,875 --> 00:19:47,333 But they've not responded to requests for comment. 420 00:19:47,333 --> 00:19:49,458 - [Tony] With no word from government officials. 421 00:19:49,458 --> 00:19:51,833 The rumors begin to fly. 422 00:19:51,833 --> 00:19:53,708 - Netizens began to speculate 423 00:19:53,708 --> 00:19:55,833 as to what we could be looking at here. 424 00:19:55,833 --> 00:19:58,250 One of the speculative theories out there 425 00:19:58,250 --> 00:20:02,708 is that this is actually a B-2 stealth bomber. 426 00:20:02,708 --> 00:20:04,958 - [Tony] The B-2 is a unique platform 427 00:20:04,958 --> 00:20:06,625 in the American arsenal, 428 00:20:06,625 --> 00:20:09,792 which played a central role in the 2025 American airstrikes 429 00:20:09,792 --> 00:20:12,875 on Iran, blending stealth and aerodynamics 430 00:20:12,875 --> 00:20:14,250 like never before. 431 00:20:14,250 --> 00:20:16,375 It's considered one of the most feared aircraft 432 00:20:16,375 --> 00:20:17,708 in the world. 433 00:20:17,708 --> 00:20:20,000 - The B-2 bomber is essentially designed 434 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,250 to travel over an adversary country 435 00:20:22,250 --> 00:20:25,417 and deliver a payload without ever being seen 436 00:20:25,417 --> 00:20:27,083 or heard or tracked. 437 00:20:27,083 --> 00:20:28,625 It's essentially invisible, 438 00:20:28,625 --> 00:20:31,542 but when it flies close to the ground, it's very obvious 439 00:20:31,542 --> 00:20:35,583 as a very large sort of black triangular shaped object. 440 00:20:35,583 --> 00:20:38,083 - [Tony] But what if it's something even more secretive? 441 00:20:38,083 --> 00:20:42,000 Some suspect this object is actually an infamous triangular 442 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,958 spacecraft only alleged to exist. 443 00:20:44,958 --> 00:20:47,542 It's known as the TR-3B. 444 00:20:47,542 --> 00:20:50,542 - The TR-3B'S story begins at Roswell 445 00:20:50,542 --> 00:20:54,208 when the US military allegedly recovered the debris 446 00:20:54,208 --> 00:20:55,833 of a crashed flying disc. 447 00:20:55,833 --> 00:20:57,292 The project ever since 448 00:20:57,292 --> 00:20:59,042 was to essentially reverse engineer it 449 00:20:59,042 --> 00:21:01,333 into something that a human can fly. 450 00:21:02,542 --> 00:21:04,833 - [Tony] Rumor has it the engineers who unlocked 451 00:21:04,833 --> 00:21:07,875 that alien tech were Nazi rocket scientists 452 00:21:07,875 --> 00:21:10,542 sheltered by the United States after the war 453 00:21:10,542 --> 00:21:12,417 in exchange for research. 454 00:21:12,417 --> 00:21:16,250 The resultant TR-3B is said to use nuclear 455 00:21:16,250 --> 00:21:18,833 accelerated mercury to generate plasma 456 00:21:18,833 --> 00:21:22,292 that creates an anti-gravity field around the craft. 457 00:21:22,292 --> 00:21:25,667 - The TR-3B exists in this mythical land 458 00:21:25,667 --> 00:21:28,167 of, perhaps the government has secret planes 459 00:21:28,167 --> 00:21:29,667 that we don't know about and they've been 460 00:21:29,667 --> 00:21:31,917 quietly building them without public awareness. 461 00:21:34,708 --> 00:21:36,708 - It's not publicly known exactly 462 00:21:36,708 --> 00:21:38,833 how much money the government sets aside 463 00:21:38,833 --> 00:21:41,542 and what is known as the black budget 464 00:21:41,542 --> 00:21:43,833 for its secret military programs. 465 00:21:43,833 --> 00:21:47,542 But some estimate that it could be around $100 billion. 466 00:21:48,542 --> 00:21:51,875 Did Jeff photograph proof of your tax dollars at work 467 00:21:51,875 --> 00:21:53,375 or something else? 468 00:21:53,375 --> 00:21:55,750 [tense music] 469 00:21:57,750 --> 00:22:00,708 Given that Kansas is home to three military installations, 470 00:22:00,708 --> 00:22:04,208 could we be seeing a known delta wing stealth bomber 471 00:22:04,208 --> 00:22:05,583 like the B-2? 472 00:22:05,583 --> 00:22:08,667 - The B-2 aircraft looks like a flying wing, 473 00:22:08,667 --> 00:22:12,875 and it is designed to blend in, especially at nighttime. 474 00:22:12,875 --> 00:22:15,375 But for training exercises in the daytime, 475 00:22:15,375 --> 00:22:17,375 usually they would fly at an altitude 476 00:22:17,375 --> 00:22:18,958 where they wouldn't leave a contrail 477 00:22:18,958 --> 00:22:20,500 so that people wouldn't see it. 478 00:22:20,500 --> 00:22:22,750 And the fact that they have not come out 479 00:22:22,750 --> 00:22:25,208 and said anything, would leave me to believe 480 00:22:25,208 --> 00:22:27,458 that this is some kind of aircraft 481 00:22:27,458 --> 00:22:30,292 that somebody was experimenting with other than a B-2. 482 00:22:30,292 --> 00:22:31,667 - [Tony] If it's not the B-2, 483 00:22:31,667 --> 00:22:34,083 could this whole thing be a hoax? 484 00:22:34,083 --> 00:22:36,167 Well, maybe in part. 485 00:22:36,167 --> 00:22:40,208 Remember that second photo that mysteriously emerged online? 486 00:22:40,208 --> 00:22:41,958 - This one is just a perfect triangle. 487 00:22:41,958 --> 00:22:44,958 When I looked at this one before, I thought, 488 00:22:44,958 --> 00:22:49,250 how is he getting such a deep projected shot on this? 489 00:22:49,250 --> 00:22:51,042 Was that maybe a hoaxed image? 490 00:22:51,042 --> 00:22:52,833 - [Tony] Since the person who shot that photo 491 00:22:52,833 --> 00:22:56,500 never identified themselves, we're leaning that way. 492 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:59,750 But Jeff's photo doesn't show any indication of fakery. 493 00:22:59,750 --> 00:23:02,750 Then are we looking at proof the legendary TR-3B 494 00:23:02,750 --> 00:23:05,500 really exists? Not so fast. 495 00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:08,500 Remember, that craft was allegedly reverse engineered 496 00:23:08,500 --> 00:23:10,083 from a UFO. 497 00:23:10,083 --> 00:23:13,917 - UFOs don't typically have engines like we've created here 498 00:23:13,917 --> 00:23:16,833 on the earth that would produce a contrail like this. 499 00:23:16,833 --> 00:23:19,667 It looks to me like these are twin contrails 500 00:23:19,667 --> 00:23:22,417 from very real human engineering. 501 00:23:22,417 --> 00:23:24,042 We can't see all the details on this, 502 00:23:24,042 --> 00:23:27,208 but I think it, at the very least, it's a new kind 503 00:23:27,208 --> 00:23:30,583 of aircraft being tested, but we can't tell what it is. 504 00:23:31,542 --> 00:23:33,750 [tense music] 505 00:23:35,333 --> 00:23:38,667 - Our verdict, unidentified test craft. 506 00:23:38,667 --> 00:23:41,417 Without clearer confirmation from the US military 507 00:23:41,417 --> 00:23:45,458 or some private entity, it's really up in the air 508 00:23:45,458 --> 00:23:47,500 as to what Jeff photographed. 509 00:23:50,875 --> 00:23:52,875 - Famous sounds from the state of Alabama 510 00:23:52,875 --> 00:23:57,042 include everything from the roar of the Talladega Superspeedway 511 00:23:57,042 --> 00:23:59,708 to the southern fried rock of Lynyrd Skynyrd. 512 00:23:59,708 --> 00:24:03,417 But now, we may be able to add Bigfoot's growl 513 00:24:03,417 --> 00:24:05,917 to the state's greatest hits. 514 00:24:05,917 --> 00:24:10,875 August 2024, Talladega National Forest, Alabama. 515 00:24:10,875 --> 00:24:14,667 With two individual cameras rolling, YouTubers Matt Graham 516 00:24:14,667 --> 00:24:17,500 and Darrel Smith head deep into the dense forest, 517 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,625 a spot they've explored countless times 518 00:24:19,625 --> 00:24:20,958 for their channel. 519 00:24:20,958 --> 00:24:24,375 The night has been uneventful, when suddenly... 520 00:24:24,375 --> 00:24:26,542 - Whoa, stop. - What was that? 521 00:24:28,208 --> 00:24:29,542 - [Tony] A rumble can be heard 522 00:24:29,542 --> 00:24:31,708 coming from deep within the woods. 523 00:24:31,708 --> 00:24:34,583 They try to locate whatever it is with their flashlights 524 00:24:34,583 --> 00:24:37,125 and hear it again, louder now. 525 00:24:37,125 --> 00:24:39,917 [monstrous growling] 526 00:24:43,625 --> 00:24:45,375 - Dude, that is a growl. - It is a growl. 527 00:24:45,375 --> 00:24:49,042 - [Tony] Let's hear that one more time and we'll turn it up. 528 00:24:49,042 --> 00:24:52,000 [monstrous growling] 529 00:24:54,417 --> 00:24:57,042 - I'm not gonna lie, it caught me off guard 530 00:24:57,042 --> 00:24:59,458 and we were hurrying back to the vehicle. 531 00:24:59,458 --> 00:25:02,167 So we don't know what it is, 532 00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:07,042 but I need to get video proof and actually see it 533 00:25:07,042 --> 00:25:09,167 and know it's real before I'm gonna say, 534 00:25:09,167 --> 00:25:10,667 "That was Bigfoot." 535 00:25:10,667 --> 00:25:13,375 - [Tony] And it turns out, Alabama Bigfoot sightings 536 00:25:13,375 --> 00:25:15,208 actually go back centuries. 537 00:25:15,208 --> 00:25:18,667 - The Alabama Coushatta people describe a wild man 538 00:25:18,667 --> 00:25:20,125 called the Eeyachuba. 539 00:25:20,125 --> 00:25:22,083 The way they describe it, it comes out at night. 540 00:25:22,083 --> 00:25:23,333 It's hair covered. 541 00:25:23,333 --> 00:25:26,667 It follows hunters when they're carrying small prey. 542 00:25:28,542 --> 00:25:30,083 - [Tony] Like we hear in this video, 543 00:25:30,083 --> 00:25:33,708 many believe that these creatures will ferociously roar 544 00:25:33,708 --> 00:25:35,500 to mark their territory 545 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:38,542 and to freeze potential threats in their tracks. 546 00:25:38,542 --> 00:25:40,708 - They will bang on the ground, roar, scream, 547 00:25:40,708 --> 00:25:42,708 just to get you out of an area. 548 00:25:42,708 --> 00:25:45,833 And when you leave, they will make sure you leave 549 00:25:45,833 --> 00:25:50,167 by escorting you out, even if that means chasing you out. 550 00:25:50,167 --> 00:25:53,458 I've spoken to several witnesses that claim that, 551 00:25:53,458 --> 00:25:55,167 "Oh, that thing was gonna kill me." 552 00:25:57,292 --> 00:26:00,000 - One story from the 1800s claimed 553 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,333 that early Alabama settlers encountered a giant, hairy, 554 00:26:03,333 --> 00:26:06,667 bipedal creature about eight feet tall. 555 00:26:06,667 --> 00:26:08,458 Someone allegedly shot the beast 556 00:26:08,458 --> 00:26:10,667 and a posse followed the blood trail, 557 00:26:10,667 --> 00:26:13,250 which eventually disappeared at the edge of a cliff. 558 00:26:13,250 --> 00:26:15,000 It's quite a tale. 559 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,208 Could a descendant of that creature 560 00:26:17,208 --> 00:26:18,875 be what made this sound? 561 00:26:18,875 --> 00:26:21,042 Let's see what our experts think. 562 00:26:21,042 --> 00:26:23,167 [tense music] 563 00:26:25,292 --> 00:26:28,917 Could this ferocious growl come from an Alabama Bigfoot? 564 00:26:28,917 --> 00:26:31,000 - There's quite a variety of sounds 565 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,042 that have been attributed to Sasquatch, 566 00:26:33,042 --> 00:26:37,625 which range from grunts, and hoots, to screams, 567 00:26:37,625 --> 00:26:40,167 and roars, and growls. 568 00:26:40,167 --> 00:26:43,083 - [Tony] The sound has a guttural roaring aspect 569 00:26:43,083 --> 00:26:44,375 similar to a black bear. 570 00:26:44,375 --> 00:26:47,750 But while this forest is home to some black bears, 571 00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:50,917 there are only about 200 in the entire state. 572 00:26:50,917 --> 00:26:53,958 - 200 is a very modest number. 573 00:26:53,958 --> 00:26:57,458 You talk to people who are avid outdoorsmen in Alabama 574 00:26:57,458 --> 00:27:00,750 and they rarely encounter black bear. 575 00:27:00,750 --> 00:27:03,875 - [Tony] So let's do some comparison testing, shall we? 576 00:27:03,875 --> 00:27:06,708 First, we match our Alabama growl 577 00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:08,917 with what many believe is the closest thing 578 00:27:08,917 --> 00:27:11,375 to a legitimate Sasquatch recording, 579 00:27:11,375 --> 00:27:15,333 the infamous Ohio howls recorded in Columbiana County, 580 00:27:15,333 --> 00:27:17,583 Ohio, in the fall of 1994. 581 00:27:19,792 --> 00:27:21,708 - So when I compare the characteristics 582 00:27:21,708 --> 00:27:25,375 of the Ohio Bigfoot howls, 583 00:27:25,375 --> 00:27:27,875 they have more frequency variation. 584 00:27:27,875 --> 00:27:31,000 [monstrous growling] 585 00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:42,125 The growl sound to me does sound kind of like 586 00:27:42,125 --> 00:27:44,667 it might be a bear, but there were a few features 587 00:27:44,667 --> 00:27:47,333 that seem a little unnatural to me. 588 00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:50,583 An animal making a growl ordinarily would be moving 589 00:27:50,583 --> 00:27:54,125 or having some variation throughout the sound. 590 00:27:54,125 --> 00:27:55,667 [bear growling] 591 00:27:55,667 --> 00:27:58,958 [monstrous growling] 592 00:28:01,250 --> 00:28:04,958 This particular growl recording stays at one pitch, 593 00:28:04,958 --> 00:28:07,750 in one frequency range throughout the sound. 594 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:10,917 [monstrous growling] 595 00:28:12,875 --> 00:28:14,792 My subjective impression would be 596 00:28:14,792 --> 00:28:17,958 that the growl was produced by playback 597 00:28:17,958 --> 00:28:20,375 through a loud speaker at the scene. 598 00:28:20,375 --> 00:28:23,292 - [Tony] That might help explain the mild behavior 599 00:28:23,292 --> 00:28:24,750 of our eyewitnesses. 600 00:28:24,750 --> 00:28:28,042 - Their reaction was rather minimalist. 601 00:28:28,042 --> 00:28:31,625 So maybe this experience was a contrived one. 602 00:28:31,625 --> 00:28:33,917 [tense music] 603 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,417 - Our verdict, we're calling this one a well executed hoax, 604 00:28:40,417 --> 00:28:42,875 one that fooled thousands online. 605 00:28:42,875 --> 00:28:44,208 Don't blame yourselves. 606 00:28:44,208 --> 00:28:47,292 Not everyone can have a forensic audio analyst 607 00:28:47,292 --> 00:28:48,958 at their fingertips. 608 00:28:48,958 --> 00:28:51,208 That's what we are here for. 609 00:28:54,917 --> 00:28:56,792 - It is widely accepted that the first European 610 00:28:56,792 --> 00:28:59,708 to land in modern day Mexico was the Explorer 611 00:28:59,708 --> 00:29:02,875 Francisco Hernandez de Cordoba, 612 00:29:02,875 --> 00:29:06,000 who arrived in early 1517. 613 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,625 But our next story features an artifact that casts doubt 614 00:29:08,625 --> 00:29:11,375 on that fact, and the entire history 615 00:29:11,375 --> 00:29:13,333 of exploration in the Americas. 616 00:29:13,333 --> 00:29:14,917 Take a look. 617 00:29:14,917 --> 00:29:18,542 1933, Toluca, Mexico. 618 00:29:18,542 --> 00:29:22,583 A group of archeologists is excavating Calixtlahuaca, 619 00:29:22,583 --> 00:29:25,250 a 16th century Aztec city. 620 00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:26,542 Digging in a grave site 621 00:29:26,542 --> 00:29:30,917 that dates between 1476 and 1510 AD, 622 00:29:30,917 --> 00:29:34,375 they come across several Aztec relics from the era. 623 00:29:34,375 --> 00:29:35,875 And then this. 624 00:29:36,917 --> 00:29:39,875 It's a small terracotta head that stands out 625 00:29:39,875 --> 00:29:42,875 because it looks nothing like the other Mesoamerican 626 00:29:42,875 --> 00:29:44,958 artifacts found here. 627 00:29:44,958 --> 00:29:47,625 The man has an expressively stern look, 628 00:29:47,625 --> 00:29:49,542 sporting a beard in what appears to be 629 00:29:49,542 --> 00:29:51,417 some kind of head covering. 630 00:29:51,417 --> 00:29:56,208 Geologist Peter Schaaf says, the head left experts befuddled 631 00:29:56,208 --> 00:29:59,833 because it seemed like something from ancient Rome. 632 00:29:59,833 --> 00:30:05,125 - This kind of cap and the beard and so on, 633 00:30:05,125 --> 00:30:08,708 there were not features which you would've expected 634 00:30:08,708 --> 00:30:11,292 from a colonial ceramic. 635 00:30:11,292 --> 00:30:14,875 So I was also convinced it is some kind of Roman thing. 636 00:30:14,875 --> 00:30:16,833 - [Tony] But what's a Roman sculpture doing 637 00:30:16,833 --> 00:30:19,208 at an Aztec archeological site? 638 00:30:19,208 --> 00:30:20,875 - There are many people who believe 639 00:30:20,875 --> 00:30:23,125 that this is a genuine Roman artifact 640 00:30:23,125 --> 00:30:25,250 and that Romans actually made their way 641 00:30:25,250 --> 00:30:29,083 to the so-called New World more than 2,000 years ago. 642 00:30:29,083 --> 00:30:31,125 Norwegian adventurer, Thor Heyerdahl 643 00:30:31,125 --> 00:30:33,792 took a transatlantic voyage in 1970 644 00:30:33,792 --> 00:30:36,375 in a boat built according to ancient Egyptian 645 00:30:36,375 --> 00:30:38,000 boat building techniques. 646 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,875 His boat was called the Ra II, 647 00:30:39,875 --> 00:30:42,875 and it sailed from Morocco to the West Indies 648 00:30:42,875 --> 00:30:45,333 showing that it may have been possible for Romans 649 00:30:45,333 --> 00:30:48,000 to have made that transatlantic voyage. 650 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,250 - [Tony] What's even more shocking? 651 00:30:49,250 --> 00:30:52,375 This head may not be the only Roman artifact 652 00:30:52,375 --> 00:30:55,250 to have made an epic journey across the Atlantic. 653 00:30:55,250 --> 00:30:59,292 In 1982, underwater archeologist Robert Marx 654 00:30:59,292 --> 00:31:03,167 made an intriguing discovery off the coast of Brazil. 655 00:31:03,167 --> 00:31:06,292 - Marx discovered barnacle covered amphorae, 656 00:31:06,292 --> 00:31:09,333 which are large jars that the Greeks and Romans used 657 00:31:09,333 --> 00:31:12,083 to transport things like wine, oil, water, 658 00:31:12,083 --> 00:31:14,375 and grain on long voyages. 659 00:31:14,375 --> 00:31:16,542 His theory is that there was a Roman ship 660 00:31:16,542 --> 00:31:19,417 that was blown off course and was wrecked on shoals 661 00:31:19,417 --> 00:31:22,042 or coral reefs during a severe storm. 662 00:31:22,042 --> 00:31:24,167 And if that's true, that completely upends 663 00:31:24,167 --> 00:31:28,083 what we know about the history of exploration in this area. 664 00:31:31,125 --> 00:31:34,917 - In 2016, an archeologist discovered a handful 665 00:31:34,917 --> 00:31:38,042 of ancient Roman coins within the ruins 666 00:31:38,042 --> 00:31:41,042 of a 12th century Japanese castle. 667 00:31:41,042 --> 00:31:44,333 There was no known trade between these two civilizations. 668 00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:47,667 No one knows for sure how this currency got there. 669 00:31:47,667 --> 00:31:51,708 But can our experts figure out how this ancient Roman relic 670 00:31:51,708 --> 00:31:53,333 crossed an ocean? 671 00:31:53,333 --> 00:31:54,667 Let's find out. 672 00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:56,958 [tense music] 673 00:31:59,083 --> 00:32:01,708 There's debate over exactly when the head was carved, 674 00:32:01,708 --> 00:32:03,083 with one source suggesting 675 00:32:03,083 --> 00:32:05,333 it dates to the second century AD. 676 00:32:05,333 --> 00:32:07,917 But the experts agree on one point, 677 00:32:07,917 --> 00:32:10,375 this artifact was not made locally. 678 00:32:10,375 --> 00:32:14,000 - Because of how it's constructed, its size, 679 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,542 this cannot be made in Mesoamerica. 680 00:32:16,542 --> 00:32:19,792 We have not found any other example like it. 681 00:32:19,792 --> 00:32:24,042 This is not pre-Hispanic type of pottery. 682 00:32:24,042 --> 00:32:26,583 - [Tony] Then how did it get across the Atlantic? 683 00:32:26,583 --> 00:32:29,875 The burial site dates to before the Spanish conquest 684 00:32:29,875 --> 00:32:31,417 of Mexico. 685 00:32:31,417 --> 00:32:34,875 And our artifact might predate all of this by centuries. 686 00:32:34,875 --> 00:32:37,208 Did the Romans make the trip after all? 687 00:32:37,208 --> 00:32:39,875 - We know that the Romans were seafaring 688 00:32:39,875 --> 00:32:42,375 and that they were able to sail all the way 689 00:32:42,375 --> 00:32:45,292 to what's now Great Britain and Ireland. 690 00:32:45,292 --> 00:32:48,500 But it's always about show me the artifacts. 691 00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:53,083 And really if they made it across the Atlantic 692 00:32:53,083 --> 00:32:57,250 in any substantial way, we would expect Roman artifacts. 693 00:32:57,250 --> 00:33:00,833 And we don't have that. 694 00:33:00,833 --> 00:33:04,375 - [Tony] But what about the jars found off the coast of Brazil? 695 00:33:04,375 --> 00:33:09,917 - In the end, those supposed Roman ceramics 696 00:33:09,917 --> 00:33:12,167 turned out to be planted there by a man 697 00:33:12,167 --> 00:33:15,083 who claimed he intentionally submerged them 698 00:33:15,083 --> 00:33:19,875 to allow them to collect barnacles and look old. 699 00:33:19,875 --> 00:33:24,000 So questions of authenticity came up. 700 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,875 - [Tony] Those jars may be an archeological scam, 701 00:33:26,875 --> 00:33:30,292 but our ancient head was confirmed by multiple studies 702 00:33:30,292 --> 00:33:32,708 as a genuine artifact from antiquity. 703 00:33:32,708 --> 00:33:37,375 So then what explains its presence in Calixtlahuaca? 704 00:33:37,375 --> 00:33:41,083 Could the dating of the burial site be off by a few years? 705 00:33:41,083 --> 00:33:45,292 - The excavation evidence said that the objects 706 00:33:45,292 --> 00:33:49,667 around this little bust were somewhere in the late 1400s 707 00:33:49,667 --> 00:33:51,625 or early 1500s, 708 00:33:51,625 --> 00:33:56,625 which is not very far off at all from Contact Period, 709 00:33:56,625 --> 00:34:00,208 which would mean that it's a more likely case 710 00:34:00,208 --> 00:34:04,500 that this was deposited during the Spanish Entrada 711 00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:08,125 and not much, much earlier in the Roman period. 712 00:34:08,125 --> 00:34:10,292 - [Tony] Or in the end, could this all have been 713 00:34:10,292 --> 00:34:12,292 just an elaborate joke? 714 00:34:12,292 --> 00:34:16,625 - There are stories among the archeologists of the time 715 00:34:16,625 --> 00:34:21,000 that one archeologist was playing a trick on another, 716 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,500 putting something in the excavation 717 00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:27,083 to make him think he had found something amazing 718 00:34:27,083 --> 00:34:29,208 when in fact, it was just a plant. 719 00:34:29,208 --> 00:34:30,708 That, of course, is a story. 720 00:34:30,708 --> 00:34:34,167 And all the folks that were involved in the excavation 721 00:34:34,167 --> 00:34:36,625 in the 1930s have passed away years ago. 722 00:34:36,625 --> 00:34:39,833 So we really can't verify that story. 723 00:34:39,833 --> 00:34:42,042 [tense music] 724 00:34:43,792 --> 00:34:47,458 - Our verdict, looks like we have a split decision here. 725 00:34:47,458 --> 00:34:51,042 Our experts can verify that this is an ancient artifact, 726 00:34:51,042 --> 00:34:53,250 very likely of Roman origin, 727 00:34:53,250 --> 00:34:57,083 but exactly how it ended up at a Mesoamerican grave site, 728 00:34:57,083 --> 00:34:59,708 for us, that remains unexplained. 729 00:35:03,542 --> 00:35:05,250 - Bloodsucking vampires are a staple 730 00:35:05,250 --> 00:35:07,958 of horror movies and Halloween. 731 00:35:07,958 --> 00:35:11,208 But centuries ago, people thought vampires were very real 732 00:35:11,208 --> 00:35:13,625 and some believed strongly enough 733 00:35:13,625 --> 00:35:17,417 to commit monstrous acts of their own. 734 00:35:17,417 --> 00:35:21,125 September 2024, Chelm, Poland. 735 00:35:21,125 --> 00:35:23,250 Workers are removing tree roots 736 00:35:23,250 --> 00:35:25,667 for a garden renovation at a cathedral, 737 00:35:25,667 --> 00:35:28,542 when they unearth something grisly. 738 00:35:28,542 --> 00:35:32,583 Two children's skeletons dating to the 13th century 739 00:35:32,583 --> 00:35:34,875 are found in a shallow burial pit 740 00:35:34,875 --> 00:35:36,875 where no grave sites are marked. 741 00:35:36,875 --> 00:35:38,708 But what's truly shocking is that 742 00:35:38,708 --> 00:35:42,333 one of the children was decapitated after they died, 743 00:35:42,333 --> 00:35:45,167 the severed head turned to face the ground. 744 00:35:45,167 --> 00:35:48,167 Why would someone do this to the remains of a child? 745 00:35:48,167 --> 00:35:51,458 - In Poland, in the medieval era, 746 00:35:51,458 --> 00:35:53,625 people were mortally terrified 747 00:35:53,625 --> 00:35:57,333 that the undead could feast on the blood of the living, 748 00:35:57,333 --> 00:36:00,250 both humans and livestock. 749 00:36:00,250 --> 00:36:04,917 And measures were taken, some of them really grisly, 750 00:36:04,917 --> 00:36:06,750 to bury the dead in such a way 751 00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:09,208 that kept them from rising. 752 00:36:09,208 --> 00:36:10,625 - [Tony] That's right. 753 00:36:10,625 --> 00:36:14,542 In medieval Poland, fear of vampires was very real 754 00:36:14,542 --> 00:36:16,917 and it endured for centuries. 755 00:36:16,917 --> 00:36:19,250 - In one famous tale in 1674, 756 00:36:19,250 --> 00:36:21,458 a Polish man rose from the dead 757 00:36:21,458 --> 00:36:24,458 and he was going around sucking the blood of his neighbors. 758 00:36:24,458 --> 00:36:26,458 His nocturnal wanderings only stopped 759 00:36:26,458 --> 00:36:28,833 when the body was decapitated. 760 00:36:28,833 --> 00:36:32,750 - Belief in vampires ran riot throughout ports of Eastern 761 00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:34,500 and central Europe. 762 00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:39,125 Imagine how terrified you have to be to do something 763 00:36:39,125 --> 00:36:42,500 this gruesome to a child after death. 764 00:36:45,333 --> 00:36:47,875 - This isn't the first time we've investigated supposed 765 00:36:47,875 --> 00:36:52,208 vampire skeletons in Poland, like this woman's remains 766 00:36:52,208 --> 00:36:54,708 found with a sickle around her neck. 767 00:36:54,708 --> 00:36:57,917 The question is, was this practice really nothing more 768 00:36:57,917 --> 00:36:59,875 than medieval superstition? 769 00:36:59,875 --> 00:37:02,833 Or did these bodies pose a real threat? 770 00:37:02,833 --> 00:37:04,833 Let's ask the experts. 771 00:37:04,833 --> 00:37:06,917 [tense music] 772 00:37:09,083 --> 00:37:12,083 Could this be a real blood sucking vampire? 773 00:37:12,083 --> 00:37:15,167 There's a reason the locals decapitated the dead body. 774 00:37:15,167 --> 00:37:17,208 - You're severing the head from the body 775 00:37:17,208 --> 00:37:18,792 and it's upside down in the grave 776 00:37:18,792 --> 00:37:22,708 so that he's confused then if he comes back alive. 777 00:37:22,708 --> 00:37:24,167 - [Tony] But there's another theory 778 00:37:24,167 --> 00:37:26,833 behind the widespread belief in vampires. 779 00:37:26,833 --> 00:37:29,375 It has nothing to do with the supernatural. 780 00:37:29,375 --> 00:37:33,417 Instead, it's tied to one of history's darkest periods. 781 00:37:33,417 --> 00:37:37,708 In 1348, the black plague spread across Europe 782 00:37:37,708 --> 00:37:40,250 and wiped out half the population. 783 00:37:40,250 --> 00:37:42,542 And it turns out dead plague victims, 784 00:37:42,542 --> 00:37:45,375 were sometimes mistaken for the undead. 785 00:37:45,375 --> 00:37:48,375 - The black plague really did inspire 786 00:37:48,375 --> 00:37:50,667 a lot of the tales about vampirism. 787 00:37:50,667 --> 00:37:53,542 And it was widespread in Europe 788 00:37:53,542 --> 00:37:56,292 that something, you know, was evil walking among you, 789 00:37:56,292 --> 00:37:58,542 can kill you, drain you of blood. 790 00:37:58,542 --> 00:38:00,708 And these superstitions, of course, 791 00:38:00,708 --> 00:38:02,833 arose from a lack of understanding 792 00:38:02,833 --> 00:38:06,542 of how diseases are passed from person to person. 793 00:38:06,542 --> 00:38:07,750 - [Tony] Hang on, though. 794 00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:10,333 The black plague didn't start until a century 795 00:38:10,333 --> 00:38:12,500 after these children died. 796 00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:14,333 But there were other diseases 797 00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:16,042 that would have been just as scary. 798 00:38:16,042 --> 00:38:19,917 - We know that the time period that this child died 799 00:38:19,917 --> 00:38:22,333 was around the 1200s. 800 00:38:22,333 --> 00:38:26,458 And that was a time where wave after wave 801 00:38:26,458 --> 00:38:29,458 of what we understand now as pandemic diseases 802 00:38:29,458 --> 00:38:32,667 were sweeping through and there was a lot of fear 803 00:38:32,667 --> 00:38:36,500 and superstition of how people got sick. 804 00:38:37,792 --> 00:38:40,000 - [Tony] It's also possible these kids were afflicted 805 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,542 with a very specific disease, one with symptoms 806 00:38:43,542 --> 00:38:47,500 that definitely would make these children appear vampiric. 807 00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:49,583 It's called porphyria. 808 00:38:49,583 --> 00:38:52,500 - Porphyria is a rare hereditary disorder 809 00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:55,583 where individuals are unable to metabolize protein 810 00:38:55,583 --> 00:38:57,875 that comprises our red blood cells. 811 00:38:57,875 --> 00:39:01,542 Individuals with porphyria cannot go out into the sunlight 812 00:39:01,542 --> 00:39:03,000 because their skin is so sensitive 813 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,625 that it might blister up and it may scar. 814 00:39:05,625 --> 00:39:08,583 And some individuals with porphyria 815 00:39:08,583 --> 00:39:10,792 can have receding gum lines, 816 00:39:10,792 --> 00:39:14,333 which can make your teeth look longer 817 00:39:14,333 --> 00:39:16,458 and maybe pointier, like a fang. 818 00:39:17,417 --> 00:39:19,417 - [Tony] Whatever disease was responsible, 819 00:39:19,417 --> 00:39:22,833 it's clear it scared the villagers to their core. 820 00:39:22,833 --> 00:39:25,042 And at a time when they couldn't explain the concept 821 00:39:25,042 --> 00:39:29,000 of a virus, they turn to their legends for an explanation. 822 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,667 And the way to stop the diseases spread. 823 00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:35,042 - These two children may very well have been 824 00:39:35,042 --> 00:39:37,875 because of their age, more susceptible to diseases 825 00:39:37,875 --> 00:39:40,583 and may have been the first to get the disease 826 00:39:40,583 --> 00:39:42,042 that spread into the village. 827 00:39:42,042 --> 00:39:45,417 And so for the village, the only way to rectify that 828 00:39:45,417 --> 00:39:48,083 and their own superstition is then to bury them 829 00:39:48,083 --> 00:39:51,458 in this special way so that they can continue 830 00:39:51,458 --> 00:39:52,875 with their lives. 831 00:39:54,958 --> 00:39:57,000 [tense music] 832 00:39:59,083 --> 00:40:01,875 - Our verdict, unknown disease. 833 00:40:01,875 --> 00:40:04,250 Even today, public health concerns 834 00:40:04,250 --> 00:40:06,708 have spawned vampire myths, 835 00:40:06,708 --> 00:40:08,875 like the wildly inaccurate online rumor 836 00:40:08,875 --> 00:40:10,708 that the COVID vaccine will turn you 837 00:40:10,708 --> 00:40:13,292 into a blood sucking monster. 838 00:40:13,292 --> 00:40:15,417 You just can't make this stuff up. 839 00:40:15,417 --> 00:40:16,708 And that's our show for tonight. 840 00:40:16,708 --> 00:40:18,583 Thank you so much for watching, 841 00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:21,042 and keep those cameras rolling. 842 00:40:21,042 --> 00:40:23,375 [dramatic music]