1 00:00:02,042 --> 00:00:03,208 - Tonight on "The Proof Is Out There." 2 00:00:03,208 --> 00:00:06,083 What is this morphing, pulsating light? 3 00:00:06,083 --> 00:00:07,917 - It's like plasma 4 00:00:07,917 --> 00:00:11,083 circling around this central sphere. 5 00:00:11,083 --> 00:00:15,000 - [Tony] Is it connected to a set of secret UFO files? 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,125 - Even in Guantanamo Bay, 7 00:00:16,125 --> 00:00:17,250 these balls of light 8 00:00:17,250 --> 00:00:19,292 were reported by many of the guards. 9 00:00:19,292 --> 00:00:22,875 - [Tony] Who or what is wheeling this wheelchair? 10 00:00:22,875 --> 00:00:24,208 - Staff members at the hospital 11 00:00:24,208 --> 00:00:26,042 believe that the device 12 00:00:26,042 --> 00:00:30,250 is being moved by the spirit of a deceased patient. 13 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:34,250 - [Tony] These mystery objects closed an airport. 14 00:00:34,250 --> 00:00:36,625 Are they part of a secret government program? 15 00:00:36,625 --> 00:00:37,792 [jet engine whirring] 16 00:00:37,792 --> 00:00:39,292 - Could we be seeing efforts here 17 00:00:39,292 --> 00:00:41,042 to control the weather, 18 00:00:41,042 --> 00:00:43,375 to weaponize the weather? 19 00:00:43,375 --> 00:00:45,500 - [Tony] It was a gift at the birth of Christ, 20 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:48,875 but why is myrrh leaking from this religious icon? 21 00:00:48,875 --> 00:00:51,667 - Yeah, I think this is potentially a true miracle 22 00:00:51,667 --> 00:00:53,625 that needs to be reckoned with. 23 00:00:53,625 --> 00:00:56,333 - [Tony] And does new research solve a mystery 24 00:00:56,333 --> 00:00:59,500 behind a syndrome that's plagued the CIA? 25 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:02,000 - Sound is being weaponized more and more, 26 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,208 and these kind of weapons are only advancing. 27 00:01:07,583 --> 00:01:09,208 [light switch clacking] 28 00:01:09,208 --> 00:01:11,000 - Around the globe are videos- 29 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,875 - Aw, look at that. [onlooker screaming] 30 00:01:12,875 --> 00:01:13,750 - [Tony] photos, 31 00:01:15,250 --> 00:01:17,542 and sounds that defy explanation. 32 00:01:17,542 --> 00:01:20,292 [hand squeaking] 33 00:01:21,042 --> 00:01:22,042 [bag rustling] 34 00:01:22,042 --> 00:01:23,417 [phone clacking] 35 00:01:23,417 --> 00:01:24,917 - [Expert] We don't know where they come from, 36 00:01:24,917 --> 00:01:26,333 who made them or how they operate. 37 00:01:26,333 --> 00:01:27,625 - [Tony] What are they? 38 00:01:27,625 --> 00:01:29,542 - [Expert] Some sort of bizarre mutation. 39 00:01:29,542 --> 00:01:31,375 - [Expert] What's exciting is nobody really knows. 40 00:01:31,375 --> 00:01:35,458 - Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 41 00:01:36,708 --> 00:01:38,000 - I'm Tony Harris. 42 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,250 And as a journalist for more than 30 years, 43 00:01:40,250 --> 00:01:42,708 I've followed the facts where they take me. 44 00:01:42,708 --> 00:01:45,167 Now I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 45 00:01:45,167 --> 00:01:47,542 to the world's strangest sounds and images. 46 00:01:47,542 --> 00:01:49,125 - [Onlooker] It's coming towards us. 47 00:01:49,125 --> 00:01:51,042 - [Tony] We'll analyze each one with top experts- 48 00:01:51,042 --> 00:01:51,958 [car crashing] 49 00:01:51,958 --> 00:01:53,625 - It's a credible case, 50 00:01:53,625 --> 00:01:55,167 it's a credible video. 51 00:01:55,167 --> 00:01:57,958 - [Tony] and pass a verdict on what it is. 52 00:01:57,958 --> 00:01:59,875 - This video is clearly faked. 53 00:01:59,875 --> 00:02:01,542 - The proof starts now. 54 00:02:01,542 --> 00:02:04,333 [dynamic music] 55 00:02:09,708 --> 00:02:11,000 Good evening, 56 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,375 and welcome to "The Proof Is Out There." 57 00:02:13,375 --> 00:02:16,875 Cuba has a colorful and complicated political history, 58 00:02:16,875 --> 00:02:21,583 and it turns out its history with UFOs is equally rich. 59 00:02:21,583 --> 00:02:24,708 And now that smartphones have come to the island, 60 00:02:24,708 --> 00:02:26,667 videos of recent sightings 61 00:02:26,667 --> 00:02:27,875 are coming out. 62 00:02:27,875 --> 00:02:29,000 Like this one. 63 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,083 [inquisitive music] 64 00:02:30,083 --> 00:02:33,375 It's 2019 in Havana, Cuba. 65 00:02:33,375 --> 00:02:35,500 A local resident is going about his day, 66 00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:39,250 when he suddenly sees something glowing in the cloudy sky 67 00:02:39,250 --> 00:02:40,500 and starts recording. 68 00:02:41,792 --> 00:02:43,292 An orange ball of light 69 00:02:43,292 --> 00:02:45,875 appears to hover in the gray sky. 70 00:02:45,875 --> 00:02:48,208 It has two dark protrusions, 71 00:02:48,208 --> 00:02:51,292 maybe wings or a saucer shape on either side, 72 00:02:51,292 --> 00:02:53,375 which disappear and reappear 73 00:02:53,375 --> 00:02:56,292 as the amorphous light spins counterclockwise. 74 00:02:56,292 --> 00:03:00,667 [onlooker speaking in foreign language] 75 00:03:00,667 --> 00:03:03,333 - [Tony] This video initially flew under the radar, 76 00:03:03,333 --> 00:03:06,958 until a journalist shared it on the news in 2023, 77 00:03:06,958 --> 00:03:10,667 calling it the closest thing to a UFO he'd ever seen. 78 00:03:12,375 --> 00:03:15,208 But it's certainly not the first UFO over Cuba. 79 00:03:15,208 --> 00:03:16,333 [dynamic music] 80 00:03:16,333 --> 00:03:17,458 - This video actually reminds me 81 00:03:17,458 --> 00:03:18,792 of another alleged incident 82 00:03:18,792 --> 00:03:23,833 that occurred in Cuba in March timeframe of 1967, 83 00:03:24,625 --> 00:03:26,042 where US personnel 84 00:03:26,042 --> 00:03:29,583 were eavesdropping into some of the communications in Cuba, 85 00:03:29,583 --> 00:03:32,208 when we overheard Cuban authorities 86 00:03:32,208 --> 00:03:34,083 scrambling two fighter jets 87 00:03:34,083 --> 00:03:36,250 to intercept an unknown object, 88 00:03:36,250 --> 00:03:37,292 a bogey. 89 00:03:38,083 --> 00:03:39,958 This metallic sphere 90 00:03:39,958 --> 00:03:42,208 was seen by some of these pilots. 91 00:03:42,208 --> 00:03:45,625 And when the pilots tried to interdict, 92 00:03:45,625 --> 00:03:46,750 there seemed to be 93 00:03:46,750 --> 00:03:48,708 some sort of electronic warfare capability, 94 00:03:48,708 --> 00:03:51,208 some sort of ability to damage, if you will, 95 00:03:51,208 --> 00:03:55,167 or hinder the avionics of the fighter aircraft. 96 00:03:55,167 --> 00:03:57,083 - [Tony] The story goes that the flight leader 97 00:03:57,083 --> 00:03:59,542 was prepared to fire on the object, 98 00:03:59,542 --> 00:04:02,292 when suddenly his plane disintegrated. 99 00:04:02,292 --> 00:04:03,917 [transition whooshing] 100 00:04:03,917 --> 00:04:06,250 But this is just one account. 101 00:04:06,250 --> 00:04:09,292 - I can tell you that even in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, 102 00:04:09,292 --> 00:04:10,417 there were incidents. 103 00:04:10,417 --> 00:04:12,042 There were these balls of light 104 00:04:12,042 --> 00:04:13,708 were reported by many of the guards. 105 00:04:13,708 --> 00:04:16,375 These reports have been in the US government's hands, 106 00:04:16,375 --> 00:04:17,875 I've personally seen them. 107 00:04:17,875 --> 00:04:19,417 So there's a long history 108 00:04:19,417 --> 00:04:22,375 of Cuba dealing with luminous balls of light 109 00:04:22,375 --> 00:04:24,750 and potentially even UFOs. 110 00:04:29,792 --> 00:04:33,000 - At some point, this thing appears to have wings. 111 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,208 Could it be some kind of high-tech military plane? 112 00:04:36,208 --> 00:04:37,833 Well, the Cuban air force 113 00:04:37,833 --> 00:04:40,875 used to be the most powerful in Latin America, 114 00:04:40,875 --> 00:04:43,250 but that changed when their ally, the Soviet Union, 115 00:04:43,250 --> 00:04:44,750 collapsed in 1991, 116 00:04:44,750 --> 00:04:48,792 leaving only a few obsolete fighter jets flying today. 117 00:04:48,792 --> 00:04:50,917 So our experts will need to consider 118 00:04:50,917 --> 00:04:53,167 some other explanations. 119 00:04:53,167 --> 00:04:54,250 [text clacking] 120 00:04:54,250 --> 00:04:57,167 [inquisitive music] 121 00:04:57,167 --> 00:05:00,292 In 2023, two migrants flew a hang glider 122 00:05:00,292 --> 00:05:02,250 from Cuba to Florida. 123 00:05:02,250 --> 00:05:05,042 Could this be another hang gliding refugee 124 00:05:05,042 --> 00:05:06,875 trying to escape communist Cuba? 125 00:05:06,875 --> 00:05:08,625 - Well, it has the wings, 126 00:05:08,625 --> 00:05:10,833 but if it was an aircraft with this shaped wing, 127 00:05:10,833 --> 00:05:13,167 it has to be moving at a fairly quick speed 128 00:05:13,167 --> 00:05:14,708 in order to stay airborne 129 00:05:14,708 --> 00:05:16,958 and have the lifted knees to stay airborne. 130 00:05:16,958 --> 00:05:18,417 It's not doing so. 131 00:05:18,417 --> 00:05:21,417 It's actually moving extremely slowly through the sky. 132 00:05:21,417 --> 00:05:23,542 - [Tony] Could it then be something we know to hover, 133 00:05:23,542 --> 00:05:25,792 like a pyrotechnic drone? 134 00:05:25,792 --> 00:05:30,833 In 2024, Ukraine began employing so-called dragon drones 135 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,167 to drop molten metal on invading Russians. 136 00:05:34,167 --> 00:05:35,542 - We know, for instance, 137 00:05:35,542 --> 00:05:38,208 that drones have been outfitted as flame throwers, 138 00:05:38,208 --> 00:05:39,750 and yeah, that's pretty dangerous looking, 139 00:05:39,750 --> 00:05:42,458 and they do spew fire, no doubt. 140 00:05:42,458 --> 00:05:44,417 - [Tony] Did Cuba's waning military 141 00:05:44,417 --> 00:05:47,458 toy with this tech back in 2019? 142 00:05:48,458 --> 00:05:51,125 - This arrangement is rotating around. 143 00:05:51,125 --> 00:05:53,125 And if it was fire, 144 00:05:53,125 --> 00:05:54,542 you would actually see 145 00:05:54,542 --> 00:05:57,042 that it looks more random than this. 146 00:05:57,042 --> 00:05:58,542 And besides, if it's a drone, 147 00:05:58,542 --> 00:06:00,583 you'd hear the sound of the motors. 148 00:06:00,583 --> 00:06:02,375 We don't hear that. 149 00:06:02,375 --> 00:06:04,250 - [Tony] So it's floating fairly still 150 00:06:04,250 --> 00:06:05,667 without making a sound, 151 00:06:05,667 --> 00:06:08,542 and producing a rotating light. 152 00:06:08,542 --> 00:06:10,292 We can only think of one thing 153 00:06:10,292 --> 00:06:12,542 that might check all those boxes. 154 00:06:12,542 --> 00:06:15,375 - If we pause it like right here, 155 00:06:15,375 --> 00:06:17,250 you can see that this looks just like 156 00:06:17,250 --> 00:06:18,542 a child's delta-wing kite. 157 00:06:18,542 --> 00:06:19,875 It even has the scallop, 158 00:06:19,875 --> 00:06:21,417 the bottom edge, 159 00:06:21,417 --> 00:06:23,333 like you see on a typical kite. 160 00:06:24,375 --> 00:06:26,542 - [Tony] And as for that rotating light. 161 00:06:26,542 --> 00:06:29,208 - What I think this is is a kite 162 00:06:29,208 --> 00:06:32,292 that's been cleverly arrayed with LEDs. 163 00:06:32,292 --> 00:06:33,875 The LEDs aren't moving, 164 00:06:33,875 --> 00:06:36,958 but the light pattern is moving across a range of LEDs, 165 00:06:36,958 --> 00:06:38,000 like spokes in a wheel. 166 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,042 And so it goes from one spoke to the next, 167 00:06:40,042 --> 00:06:41,542 all the way around the kite. 168 00:06:42,417 --> 00:06:43,375 - [Tony] But hold on, 169 00:06:43,375 --> 00:06:46,292 that kite theory might not fly. 170 00:06:46,292 --> 00:06:47,917 - I don't think this is a kite 171 00:06:47,917 --> 00:06:50,542 because it is not seen to be reacting 172 00:06:50,542 --> 00:06:52,500 with the environment that it is in. 173 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:53,875 In other words, 174 00:06:53,875 --> 00:06:56,208 it looks like it has its own means of propulsion, 175 00:06:56,208 --> 00:06:57,917 its own means of changing. 176 00:06:57,917 --> 00:07:01,750 And also the eyewitnesses' behavior seem very genuine 177 00:07:01,750 --> 00:07:04,125 as in that they're seeing something unusual, 178 00:07:04,125 --> 00:07:05,375 they don't know what it is, 179 00:07:05,375 --> 00:07:06,708 and they would like to know what it is. 180 00:07:06,708 --> 00:07:09,042 But there's also what comes across 181 00:07:09,042 --> 00:07:11,125 as a little bit of fear in their voices. 182 00:07:11,125 --> 00:07:12,500 - [Child] Ah. 183 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:14,875 [onlooker speaking in foreign language] 184 00:07:14,875 --> 00:07:17,542 [text clacking] 185 00:07:19,042 --> 00:07:21,667 - Our verdict, genuine UFO. 186 00:07:21,667 --> 00:07:23,083 This was a tricky one. 187 00:07:23,083 --> 00:07:25,208 We like the kite theory, 188 00:07:25,208 --> 00:07:28,708 but then why doesn't it seem to drift with the wind? 189 00:07:28,708 --> 00:07:33,417 It turns out China is also setting up spy bases in Cuba, 190 00:07:33,417 --> 00:07:35,958 so we'll be keeping an eye on the island nation. 191 00:07:38,417 --> 00:07:41,583 Now let's migrate from Cuba to New York. 192 00:07:41,583 --> 00:07:43,750 New York's Seneca Lake 193 00:07:43,750 --> 00:07:46,375 is as mysterious as it is beautiful. 194 00:07:46,375 --> 00:07:47,792 For centuries, 195 00:07:47,792 --> 00:07:50,333 it's been the site of strange booming sounds 196 00:07:50,333 --> 00:07:52,375 known as the Seneca Guns, 197 00:07:52,375 --> 00:07:53,708 and the lake's riddles 198 00:07:53,708 --> 00:07:56,333 aren't limited to scary noises in the air. 199 00:07:56,333 --> 00:07:57,458 As you're about to see, 200 00:07:57,458 --> 00:07:59,708 they also include monstrous sights, 201 00:07:59,708 --> 00:08:02,000 emerging from the water. 202 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:02,708 [inquisitive music] 203 00:08:02,708 --> 00:08:05,292 Geneva, Upstate New York. 204 00:08:05,292 --> 00:08:07,458 Check out this grainy footage 205 00:08:07,458 --> 00:08:09,542 said to be captured at an unknown date 206 00:08:09,542 --> 00:08:12,375 by an anonymous witness at Seneca Lake. 207 00:08:12,375 --> 00:08:14,000 The camera catches rippling water 208 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,583 as a dark shape moves silently below the surface. 209 00:08:17,583 --> 00:08:19,708 It suddenly bobs into the air 210 00:08:19,708 --> 00:08:21,708 and something like a neck or appendage 211 00:08:21,708 --> 00:08:23,583 appears to stick upwards. 212 00:08:25,167 --> 00:08:28,958 Many believe this video could be proof of a monster 213 00:08:28,958 --> 00:08:31,458 rumored to dwell within the large lake. 214 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:33,667 - People who have seen the creature 215 00:08:33,667 --> 00:08:35,958 say that it's a greenish black color. 216 00:08:35,958 --> 00:08:39,500 It can range anywhere from 10 to 30 feet long. 217 00:08:39,500 --> 00:08:40,708 Often they are described 218 00:08:40,708 --> 00:08:43,833 as having rows of sharp triangular teeth. 219 00:08:45,125 --> 00:08:47,000 - [Tony] Reported sightings of the Seneca Lake Monster 220 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,042 actually go all the way back to 1899. 221 00:08:51,292 --> 00:08:52,958 - The Captain Herendeen, 222 00:08:52,958 --> 00:08:55,875 skipper of the steamship Otetiani, 223 00:08:55,875 --> 00:08:58,417 saw a strange object in the water. 224 00:08:58,417 --> 00:08:59,458 And as he got closer, 225 00:08:59,458 --> 00:09:00,750 this thing came to life, 226 00:09:00,750 --> 00:09:03,292 and began to turn and swim away 227 00:09:03,292 --> 00:09:04,708 at a very rapid speed. 228 00:09:04,708 --> 00:09:07,375 Ultimately, he rammed it with the steamship, 229 00:09:07,375 --> 00:09:08,667 apparently was such force 230 00:09:08,667 --> 00:09:09,792 that all of the passengers 231 00:09:09,792 --> 00:09:11,792 were thrown off their feet. 232 00:09:11,792 --> 00:09:13,292 - [Tony] According to the story, 233 00:09:13,292 --> 00:09:14,792 this aggressive maneuver 234 00:09:14,792 --> 00:09:17,708 actually killed the mysterious creature. 235 00:09:17,708 --> 00:09:20,833 - They attempted to drag its body on board, 236 00:09:20,833 --> 00:09:22,708 but unfortunately they lost grip of it 237 00:09:22,708 --> 00:09:24,708 and it sunk down into the depths 238 00:09:24,708 --> 00:09:26,542 and the remains were never retrieved. 239 00:09:26,542 --> 00:09:27,917 Now, what's notable 240 00:09:27,917 --> 00:09:29,750 is that this particular account 241 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:31,458 was very well reported 242 00:09:31,458 --> 00:09:33,583 by local newspapers of the time, 243 00:09:33,583 --> 00:09:36,542 and was actually given a lot of credibility 244 00:09:36,542 --> 00:09:38,708 due to the testimony of the eyewitnesses 245 00:09:38,708 --> 00:09:40,208 that were on board that day. 246 00:09:41,250 --> 00:09:42,708 - [Tony] But if it's dead, 247 00:09:42,708 --> 00:09:46,042 how could sightings continue to this day? 248 00:09:46,042 --> 00:09:48,875 There's a local theory that's very popular 249 00:09:48,875 --> 00:09:51,208 that describes an elaborate system 250 00:09:51,208 --> 00:09:53,083 of underwater caverns or tunnels 251 00:09:53,083 --> 00:09:56,708 that actually connect all 11 of the Finger Lakes 252 00:09:56,708 --> 00:09:59,208 and that potentially there could be a population 253 00:09:59,208 --> 00:10:00,375 of these lake monsters 254 00:10:00,375 --> 00:10:03,792 and they actually utilize these underwater tunnels 255 00:10:03,792 --> 00:10:05,792 in order to travel from lake to lake. 256 00:10:09,042 --> 00:10:11,625 - The Seneca Lake Monster joins a long list 257 00:10:11,625 --> 00:10:13,500 of legendary aquatic creatures 258 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:16,500 rumored to inhabit the state of New York. 259 00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:19,542 There's Lake Champlain's infamous Champ, 260 00:10:19,542 --> 00:10:21,583 Cayuga Lake's Old Greeny, 261 00:10:21,583 --> 00:10:24,083 Silver Lake's Silver Lake Serpent. 262 00:10:24,083 --> 00:10:26,458 Even the Hudson River has a supposed creature 263 00:10:26,458 --> 00:10:28,458 nicknamed Kipsy. 264 00:10:28,458 --> 00:10:30,542 Can our experts help explain 265 00:10:30,542 --> 00:10:34,542 why these beasts seem to love the Empire State? 266 00:10:34,542 --> 00:10:38,792 [text clacking] [inquisitive music] 267 00:10:38,792 --> 00:10:41,000 Seneca Lake is home to large fish, 268 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,250 like sturgeon, trout and northern pike, 269 00:10:44,250 --> 00:10:46,250 but none of them visually match 270 00:10:46,250 --> 00:10:47,333 what we're seeing here. 271 00:10:48,708 --> 00:10:50,875 Some have suggested that this is nothing more 272 00:10:50,875 --> 00:10:53,625 than a tree branch bobbing in the water. 273 00:10:54,917 --> 00:10:56,833 - When you have biological components 274 00:10:56,833 --> 00:11:01,750 like wood decomposing in a wet, low-on-oxygen environment, 275 00:11:02,542 --> 00:11:03,958 it actually starts a process 276 00:11:03,958 --> 00:11:06,375 where the bacteria will produce an offset of gases, 277 00:11:06,375 --> 00:11:09,417 and that can impact whether or not a log is floating 278 00:11:09,417 --> 00:11:11,042 and its overall buoyancy. 279 00:11:11,042 --> 00:11:13,583 But for this, you'd probably see 280 00:11:13,583 --> 00:11:15,458 a lot more of the object 281 00:11:15,458 --> 00:11:16,875 floating at the surface, 282 00:11:16,875 --> 00:11:19,833 whereas here we're seeing a lot more submerged. 283 00:11:19,833 --> 00:11:21,792 - [Tony] So could this be actual evidence 284 00:11:21,792 --> 00:11:24,083 of the lake's supposed monster? 285 00:11:24,083 --> 00:11:27,833 - I don't see what I would define as a head, 286 00:11:27,833 --> 00:11:30,667 or a tail, or flippers. 287 00:11:30,667 --> 00:11:33,042 I guess that it's part of a sinuous body. 288 00:11:33,042 --> 00:11:36,708 It's not something that's undulating over the surface. 289 00:11:36,708 --> 00:11:39,708 - [Tony] In fact, the entire movement of the specimen 290 00:11:39,708 --> 00:11:41,333 seems questionable. 291 00:11:41,333 --> 00:11:43,875 - Animals might come to the surface to feed, 292 00:11:43,875 --> 00:11:46,625 but this doesn't look like a feeding behavior to me. 293 00:11:46,625 --> 00:11:50,125 Instead, it looks kind of all over the place. 294 00:11:50,125 --> 00:11:52,750 I don't think it's part of a sea monster surfacing, 295 00:11:52,750 --> 00:11:54,917 I think there's else going on here. 296 00:11:56,208 --> 00:11:58,333 - [Tony] Our next step was to put this classic footage 297 00:11:58,333 --> 00:12:00,292 through forensic video analysis. 298 00:12:01,458 --> 00:12:02,792 - The video does appear to be dated, 299 00:12:02,792 --> 00:12:05,500 it doesn't appear to be some sort of emulation. 300 00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:06,833 From other videos I've examined 301 00:12:06,833 --> 00:12:07,958 over the course of my career, 302 00:12:07,958 --> 00:12:09,542 it definitely looks like an eyewitness 303 00:12:09,542 --> 00:12:13,958 that captured something using non-professional equipment. 304 00:12:15,042 --> 00:12:16,625 - [Tony] So it's genuine footage 305 00:12:16,625 --> 00:12:18,708 captured by an analog camera, 306 00:12:18,708 --> 00:12:20,625 such as a camcorder. 307 00:12:20,625 --> 00:12:22,833 But beyond that, we've hit a dead end. 308 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,792 - The video information that was contained 309 00:12:25,792 --> 00:12:27,208 in that original file 310 00:12:27,208 --> 00:12:29,292 has been put into a new file format. 311 00:12:29,292 --> 00:12:31,500 A lot of the information we would need 312 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:33,000 has been stripped away. 313 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,792 So thus, the verdict on this one is inconclusive. 314 00:12:37,208 --> 00:12:40,000 [text clacking] 315 00:12:41,208 --> 00:12:42,042 - Our verdict, 316 00:12:42,042 --> 00:12:43,750 without any more information 317 00:12:43,750 --> 00:12:45,750 to glean from this footage, 318 00:12:45,750 --> 00:12:48,083 this figure remains unknown. 319 00:12:48,083 --> 00:12:51,042 We can't even determine if it's organic or not. 320 00:12:51,042 --> 00:12:54,208 But belief in the Seneca Lake Monster is strong. 321 00:12:54,208 --> 00:12:56,375 In fact, in 2015, 322 00:12:56,375 --> 00:12:58,917 a law was passed that prohibited trapping 323 00:12:58,917 --> 00:13:00,125 or hunting the beast. 324 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:05,292 - The term poltergeist 325 00:13:05,792 --> 00:13:08,958 comes from the German words for noisy ghost. 326 00:13:08,958 --> 00:13:12,500 Poltergeist are said to throw and move objects, 327 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:13,750 make repetitive noises, 328 00:13:13,750 --> 00:13:15,625 and generally cause havoc 329 00:13:15,625 --> 00:13:17,083 in the place they're haunting. 330 00:13:17,083 --> 00:13:19,750 And when they're haunting hospitals, 331 00:13:19,750 --> 00:13:21,750 you can get caught-on-camera moments, 332 00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:22,667 like this. 333 00:13:22,667 --> 00:13:23,708 [inquisitive music] 334 00:13:23,708 --> 00:13:26,000 May 23rd, 2020. 335 00:13:27,250 --> 00:13:31,708 It's evening in the Udon Thani province in Thailand. 336 00:13:31,708 --> 00:13:33,792 A security camera keeps a watchful eye 337 00:13:33,792 --> 00:13:35,875 over a hospital parking lot. 338 00:13:35,875 --> 00:13:38,750 Everything seems calm and secure, 339 00:13:38,750 --> 00:13:42,125 until something truly spooky happens. 340 00:13:42,125 --> 00:13:45,417 An empty wheelchair moves toward the parking lot 341 00:13:45,417 --> 00:13:46,542 on its own. 342 00:13:46,542 --> 00:13:48,708 Then it suddenly stops 343 00:13:48,708 --> 00:13:50,667 and pauses for a second. 344 00:13:50,667 --> 00:13:53,375 This is where things get really freaky. 345 00:13:53,375 --> 00:13:55,333 Let's blow this up for a better look. 346 00:13:57,208 --> 00:13:58,333 Do you see that? 347 00:13:58,333 --> 00:14:02,333 The chair is slowly making little adjustments, 348 00:14:02,333 --> 00:14:03,708 as if an invisible hand 349 00:14:03,708 --> 00:14:05,542 is getting ready to change direction? 350 00:14:05,542 --> 00:14:07,042 The chair pauses, 351 00:14:07,708 --> 00:14:10,708 but then it reverses course. 352 00:14:10,708 --> 00:14:13,125 Some unknown, unseen force 353 00:14:13,125 --> 00:14:16,417 seems to be guiding it carefully toward the camera 354 00:14:16,417 --> 00:14:18,417 and out of frame. 355 00:14:18,417 --> 00:14:20,458 Are we seeing the mischief 356 00:14:20,458 --> 00:14:21,208 of a ghost? 357 00:14:22,458 --> 00:14:25,208 - This would be considered an inanimate ghost. 358 00:14:25,208 --> 00:14:29,542 Inanimate ghosts tend not to seek interaction 359 00:14:29,542 --> 00:14:31,917 with people or witnesses, 360 00:14:31,917 --> 00:14:33,750 but they're fixated, 361 00:14:33,750 --> 00:14:35,792 as ghosts often are, 362 00:14:35,792 --> 00:14:37,500 on a single object. 363 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:38,875 That may be an heirloom, 364 00:14:38,875 --> 00:14:41,833 it may be the bed where they died. 365 00:14:41,833 --> 00:14:43,750 - [Tony] And when it comes to stories of ghosts 366 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:45,042 haunting a hospital, 367 00:14:45,042 --> 00:14:48,250 well, maybe we shouldn't be surprised. 368 00:14:48,250 --> 00:14:52,167 - One of the most famous is the Waverly Hills Sanitarium 369 00:14:52,167 --> 00:14:54,667 in Lexington, Kentucky. 370 00:14:54,667 --> 00:14:58,542 It was originally opened in 1910 371 00:14:58,542 --> 00:15:02,625 as an asylum for people suffering tuberculosis. 372 00:15:02,625 --> 00:15:04,250 There are stories of people 373 00:15:04,250 --> 00:15:08,458 said to have jumped out the windows of the sanitarium 374 00:15:08,458 --> 00:15:10,125 upon being frightened 375 00:15:10,125 --> 00:15:12,708 or threatened by ghosts. 376 00:15:12,708 --> 00:15:16,708 There is one case of a nurse in 1932 377 00:15:16,708 --> 00:15:20,375 throwing herself from a fifth-floor window to her death. 378 00:15:20,375 --> 00:15:23,083 And a pair of ghosts has been reported 379 00:15:23,083 --> 00:15:24,708 wandering the fifth floor. 380 00:15:24,708 --> 00:15:26,750 [pensive music] 381 00:15:26,750 --> 00:15:27,958 - [Tony] Now, over in Thailand, 382 00:15:27,958 --> 00:15:30,208 where this wheelchair went rogue, 383 00:15:30,208 --> 00:15:34,375 ghosts and spirits are collectively known as phi. 384 00:15:34,375 --> 00:15:36,042 - According to Thai religious belief, 385 00:15:36,042 --> 00:15:39,167 phi is a life energy 386 00:15:39,167 --> 00:15:42,917 that continues on after we die. 387 00:15:42,917 --> 00:15:45,583 We in the West might call it the soul. 388 00:15:46,583 --> 00:15:50,792 Some sort of a vital life force 389 00:15:50,792 --> 00:15:53,708 that flows through all living things. 390 00:15:53,708 --> 00:15:54,875 - [Tony] Is it the phi 391 00:15:54,875 --> 00:15:57,542 or one of those formally living things 392 00:15:57,542 --> 00:15:59,250 that we're seeing here? 393 00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:00,708 Staff members at the hospital 394 00:16:00,708 --> 00:16:02,333 believe that the device 395 00:16:02,333 --> 00:16:05,083 was being moved by the spirit 396 00:16:05,083 --> 00:16:06,958 of a deceased patient 397 00:16:06,958 --> 00:16:09,125 who had used the wheelchair 398 00:16:09,125 --> 00:16:10,875 during his stay at the facility. 399 00:16:10,875 --> 00:16:14,125 [ominous music] 400 00:16:14,125 --> 00:16:16,708 - Beware, some of these phi spirits 401 00:16:16,708 --> 00:16:18,083 aren't for the weak kneed. 402 00:16:18,083 --> 00:16:20,500 Phi Krasue is a malevolent spirit 403 00:16:20,500 --> 00:16:21,333 that floats at night 404 00:16:21,333 --> 00:16:23,708 with its organs trailing behind. 405 00:16:23,708 --> 00:16:25,250 Phi Am is a ghost 406 00:16:25,250 --> 00:16:27,917 that sits on the chest of a sleeping person, 407 00:16:27,917 --> 00:16:30,750 causing nightmares and even paralysis. 408 00:16:30,750 --> 00:16:32,542 I think I'll stick with Casper. 409 00:16:32,542 --> 00:16:34,208 But what do we have here? 410 00:16:34,208 --> 00:16:36,042 Let's ask the experts. 411 00:16:36,042 --> 00:16:40,125 [text clacking] [inquisitive music] 412 00:16:40,125 --> 00:16:42,250 Has the phi of a former patient 413 00:16:42,250 --> 00:16:44,833 returned to this Thai hospital? 414 00:16:44,833 --> 00:16:46,875 One specific clue may be the key 415 00:16:46,875 --> 00:16:48,583 to unlocking this haunting. 416 00:16:48,583 --> 00:16:51,083 - The things that leap out to me about this are, 417 00:16:51,083 --> 00:16:54,208 at the start of the video, 418 00:16:54,208 --> 00:16:55,708 the back of the wheelchair 419 00:16:55,708 --> 00:16:57,542 is at right angles to its motion, 420 00:16:57,542 --> 00:16:58,292 which suggests to me 421 00:16:58,292 --> 00:17:00,042 that perhaps it's being pushed 422 00:17:00,042 --> 00:17:02,083 by some kind of wind, 423 00:17:02,083 --> 00:17:04,250 because we actually see right in the back here, 424 00:17:04,250 --> 00:17:07,292 we see some plants moving around in the wind. 425 00:17:07,292 --> 00:17:09,042 - [Tony] It's more than speculation. 426 00:17:09,042 --> 00:17:10,583 The day's weather report 427 00:17:10,583 --> 00:17:12,708 backs up the wind theory. 428 00:17:12,708 --> 00:17:15,333 - We do have proof that there were storms in the area. 429 00:17:15,333 --> 00:17:17,583 Winds were about 20 miles per hour, 430 00:17:17,583 --> 00:17:18,542 gusting to about 30. 431 00:17:18,542 --> 00:17:21,375 And it's quite possible that nearby storms 432 00:17:21,375 --> 00:17:23,417 led to that increase in wind speed 433 00:17:23,417 --> 00:17:25,500 that then led to the wheelchair moving. 434 00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:26,583 [inquisitive music] 435 00:17:26,583 --> 00:17:28,750 - [Tony] And the fact that the chair is empty, 436 00:17:28,750 --> 00:17:32,167 that may have lent an invisible helping hand. 437 00:17:32,167 --> 00:17:34,042 - Wheelchairs are very light, 438 00:17:34,042 --> 00:17:36,333 they have very low friction on the bearing 439 00:17:36,333 --> 00:17:38,167 so that they can be pushed very easily. 440 00:17:38,167 --> 00:17:39,292 So it doesn't take very much, 441 00:17:39,292 --> 00:17:40,875 if the brakes are left off, 442 00:17:40,875 --> 00:17:42,083 for it to keep moving, 443 00:17:42,083 --> 00:17:44,458 especially if there's nobody in it. 444 00:17:44,458 --> 00:17:46,167 - [Tony] But what explains the wheelchair 445 00:17:46,167 --> 00:17:48,833 suddenly shifting into reverse. 446 00:17:48,833 --> 00:17:50,917 We're inclined to believe 447 00:17:50,917 --> 00:17:53,125 that the answer is on the ground. 448 00:17:53,125 --> 00:17:57,375 - There is a slight slope towards the parking lot. 449 00:17:57,375 --> 00:17:58,708 It is a natural inclination 450 00:17:58,708 --> 00:18:00,417 for things to roll downhill. 451 00:18:00,417 --> 00:18:03,583 So this rolled downhill towards the parking lot. 452 00:18:03,583 --> 00:18:05,917 It looks like it got stuck somewhere, 453 00:18:05,917 --> 00:18:08,083 so that's what led it to stop. 454 00:18:08,083 --> 00:18:10,542 It only took another strong wind gust 455 00:18:10,542 --> 00:18:12,708 for the wheelchair to move back once again. 456 00:18:14,458 --> 00:18:17,167 [text clacking] 457 00:18:18,458 --> 00:18:19,583 - Our verdict, 458 00:18:19,583 --> 00:18:20,375 wind. 459 00:18:20,375 --> 00:18:23,208 So no hospital ghost this time. 460 00:18:23,208 --> 00:18:25,042 But if you're still hoping to spot one, 461 00:18:25,042 --> 00:18:28,208 good news, that infamous Waverly Hills Sanatorium 462 00:18:28,208 --> 00:18:29,208 in Kentucky, 463 00:18:29,208 --> 00:18:31,042 which shut down decades ago, 464 00:18:31,042 --> 00:18:33,583 now runs paranormal tours for the public. 465 00:18:37,917 --> 00:18:38,667 - In 2023, 466 00:18:38,833 --> 00:18:40,833 a high-altitude spy balloon 467 00:18:40,833 --> 00:18:42,417 originated from China 468 00:18:42,417 --> 00:18:44,875 flew across North American airspace. 469 00:18:44,875 --> 00:18:46,542 The incident put a spotlight 470 00:18:46,542 --> 00:18:48,875 on the secretive Chinese military. 471 00:18:48,875 --> 00:18:50,958 Just what kind of tech do they have, 472 00:18:50,958 --> 00:18:53,042 and what are they using it for? 473 00:18:53,042 --> 00:18:55,875 This next video only deepened that mystery. 474 00:18:55,875 --> 00:18:57,750 [inquisitive music] 475 00:18:57,750 --> 00:19:00,083 September 11th, 2024. 476 00:19:00,917 --> 00:19:03,250 It's around 6:00 p.m. in Fuzhou, 477 00:19:03,250 --> 00:19:05,708 located in southeastern China. 478 00:19:05,708 --> 00:19:09,208 The sun is setting and traffic blares on a busy highway. 479 00:19:09,208 --> 00:19:12,125 But today, it's not the congestion on the roads 480 00:19:12,125 --> 00:19:14,208 that has onlookers mesmerized, 481 00:19:14,208 --> 00:19:15,667 it's what's up in the sky. 482 00:19:16,583 --> 00:19:18,208 [car horn honking] 483 00:19:18,208 --> 00:19:19,458 An anonymous shooter 484 00:19:19,458 --> 00:19:22,875 films roughly a dozen bright spherical lights 485 00:19:22,875 --> 00:19:26,542 that appear to be slowly drifting down from the clouds. 486 00:19:26,542 --> 00:19:29,208 The phenomenon is caught on a second camera, 487 00:19:29,208 --> 00:19:31,292 seemingly from a more remote location 488 00:19:31,292 --> 00:19:32,792 in the countryside. 489 00:19:32,792 --> 00:19:36,708 In both shots, the lights appear to leave long smoky trails 490 00:19:36,708 --> 00:19:37,958 in the sky. 491 00:19:37,958 --> 00:19:40,667 It might look like some kind of training exercise, 492 00:19:40,667 --> 00:19:43,792 but no one from the Chinese government or military 493 00:19:43,792 --> 00:19:45,083 takes responsibility. 494 00:19:45,083 --> 00:19:47,375 The Fuzhou Meteorological Bureau 495 00:19:47,375 --> 00:19:49,542 quickly rules out weather anomaly. 496 00:19:49,542 --> 00:19:51,750 But that doesn't stop people from speculating 497 00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:55,167 about one specific kind of weather phenomenon. 498 00:19:55,167 --> 00:19:56,833 - There is something called a cloud seeding 499 00:19:56,833 --> 00:19:58,375 that countries have done before, 500 00:19:58,375 --> 00:19:59,625 we've experimented with it, 501 00:19:59,625 --> 00:20:01,417 Chinese have experimented with it. 502 00:20:01,417 --> 00:20:02,833 And if you seed the cloud, 503 00:20:02,833 --> 00:20:05,208 meaning you create the right environment 504 00:20:05,208 --> 00:20:07,125 for there to be precipitation, 505 00:20:07,125 --> 00:20:09,458 then you can actually make it rain. 506 00:20:09,458 --> 00:20:11,458 Could we be seeing efforts here 507 00:20:11,458 --> 00:20:13,208 to control the weather, 508 00:20:13,208 --> 00:20:15,458 to weaponize the weather? 509 00:20:15,458 --> 00:20:16,625 - [Tony] Or could these orbs 510 00:20:16,625 --> 00:20:19,208 have more otherworldly origins, 511 00:20:19,208 --> 00:20:21,833 like many speculate about the famous UFOs 512 00:20:21,833 --> 00:20:24,042 recorded by the US Navy? 513 00:20:24,042 --> 00:20:25,083 On the other hand, 514 00:20:25,083 --> 00:20:26,917 some believe those UFOs 515 00:20:26,917 --> 00:20:29,500 are actually Chinese drones. 516 00:20:29,500 --> 00:20:30,417 Could those same drones 517 00:20:30,417 --> 00:20:32,917 be operating across China? 518 00:20:32,917 --> 00:20:37,750 - Coincidentally, on that very same day in Tianjin, China, 519 00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:39,042 a similar event occurred 520 00:20:39,042 --> 00:20:42,250 where locals had reported seeing a UFO, 521 00:20:42,250 --> 00:20:44,375 and it actually forced the closure 522 00:20:44,375 --> 00:20:47,000 of one of the airports in the local areas 523 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,458 because people were reporting 524 00:20:48,458 --> 00:20:50,667 this unidentified flying object 525 00:20:50,667 --> 00:20:53,875 in and around the airspace of the airport. 526 00:20:53,875 --> 00:20:55,208 Could this be something similar 527 00:20:55,208 --> 00:20:56,500 and could this be related? 528 00:20:58,417 --> 00:21:00,958 - Though officials blame the Tianjin incident 529 00:21:00,958 --> 00:21:02,208 on drone activity, 530 00:21:02,208 --> 00:21:05,083 many were skeptical of that explanation. 531 00:21:05,083 --> 00:21:06,542 You can hardly blame them 532 00:21:06,542 --> 00:21:08,875 considering the incident affected the travel plans 533 00:21:08,875 --> 00:21:11,167 of more than 3,000 passengers. 534 00:21:11,167 --> 00:21:13,083 The Fuzhou sighting, on the other hand, 535 00:21:13,083 --> 00:21:16,458 has received no official explanation. 536 00:21:16,458 --> 00:21:18,750 Let's see if our experts can come up with one. 537 00:21:18,750 --> 00:21:23,125 [text clacking] [inquisitive music] 538 00:21:23,125 --> 00:21:25,042 We've heard of flaming fireballs 539 00:21:25,042 --> 00:21:26,917 falling from the sky before. 540 00:21:26,917 --> 00:21:29,417 They're called meteors, right? 541 00:21:29,417 --> 00:21:32,000 But can these be classified that way? 542 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,417 - It's definitely not a meteor 543 00:21:33,417 --> 00:21:35,583 or anything of that nature, 544 00:21:35,583 --> 00:21:37,292 simply because whatever it is 545 00:21:37,292 --> 00:21:39,083 is moving much, much slower. 546 00:21:39,083 --> 00:21:43,375 A meteorite is gonna move at extremely fast pace. 547 00:21:43,375 --> 00:21:45,250 It's something that's only gonna be visible 548 00:21:45,250 --> 00:21:47,792 for seconds at best. 549 00:21:47,792 --> 00:21:49,417 - [Tony] But these objects were visible 550 00:21:49,417 --> 00:21:50,958 for 10 whole minutes. 551 00:21:50,958 --> 00:21:54,750 Does that mean the weather manipulation rumors are true? 552 00:21:54,750 --> 00:21:56,500 - Cloud seeding is only successful 553 00:21:56,500 --> 00:21:59,042 if the clouds contain sufficient moisture, 554 00:21:59,042 --> 00:22:00,542 and in order to seed the clouds, 555 00:22:00,542 --> 00:22:02,083 you have to fly into the clouds. 556 00:22:02,083 --> 00:22:03,292 You're releasing chemical agents 557 00:22:03,292 --> 00:22:05,417 into the clouds themselves. 558 00:22:05,417 --> 00:22:07,583 And so what we're looking at here 559 00:22:07,583 --> 00:22:10,208 seems to be well below the clouds. 560 00:22:10,208 --> 00:22:12,583 So yeah, nothing about this 561 00:22:12,583 --> 00:22:14,500 is consistent with cloud seeding. 562 00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:15,750 - [Tony] So it seems these lights 563 00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:19,042 are neither atmospheric nor artificial. 564 00:22:19,042 --> 00:22:20,542 Could they be UFOs, 565 00:22:20,542 --> 00:22:23,042 like the ones we've been seeing stateside? 566 00:22:23,042 --> 00:22:25,375 - These are multiple lights 567 00:22:25,375 --> 00:22:26,375 that are coming down, 568 00:22:26,375 --> 00:22:28,000 leaving a smoke trail. 569 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,458 UFOs typically don't have any kind of combustion engine, 570 00:22:31,458 --> 00:22:34,167 so it's not typically reported with UFOs 571 00:22:34,167 --> 00:22:36,542 that you see anything like smoke. 572 00:22:36,542 --> 00:22:38,333 - [Tony] But we can think of one thing 573 00:22:38,333 --> 00:22:41,250 that would smoke just like this. 574 00:22:41,250 --> 00:22:42,750 Flares. 575 00:22:42,750 --> 00:22:44,583 - Everything that we see here 576 00:22:44,583 --> 00:22:48,375 with the balls of light falling, under free fall, 577 00:22:48,375 --> 00:22:50,375 the smoke trails behind them, 578 00:22:50,375 --> 00:22:52,500 all of that is consistent with military flares. 579 00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:54,792 Oftentimes they're dispersed in batches. 580 00:22:54,792 --> 00:22:56,542 Military aircraft will employ these 581 00:22:56,542 --> 00:22:59,375 to get a adversarial missile system 582 00:22:59,375 --> 00:23:01,375 to target your flare instead of you. 583 00:23:01,375 --> 00:23:03,250 - [Tony] The question remains, however, 584 00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:04,917 why drop these flares? 585 00:23:04,917 --> 00:23:06,000 And why not disclose 586 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,750 it was the Chinese military dropping them? 587 00:23:08,750 --> 00:23:11,083 - The thing that you need to be considering here 588 00:23:11,083 --> 00:23:12,708 is the fact that, 589 00:23:12,708 --> 00:23:14,292 with the tensions that are going on 590 00:23:14,292 --> 00:23:17,875 between China as well as Taiwan, 591 00:23:17,875 --> 00:23:20,250 and they're ramping up their military missions, 592 00:23:20,250 --> 00:23:21,542 it's very conceivable 593 00:23:21,542 --> 00:23:25,875 that this was a military drop of some flares. 594 00:23:25,875 --> 00:23:28,583 [text clacking] 595 00:23:29,792 --> 00:23:31,167 - Our verdict, 596 00:23:31,167 --> 00:23:34,167 we believe these are likely military test flares. 597 00:23:34,167 --> 00:23:35,542 But the purpose of that mission 598 00:23:35,542 --> 00:23:38,250 and the reason for the continued secrecy 599 00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:39,750 remain a mystery. 600 00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:42,083 The Chinese government has shown no interest 601 00:23:42,083 --> 00:23:43,167 in providing any answers. 602 00:23:47,667 --> 00:23:50,292 - Chinese mythology talks of a young woman named Long Mu 603 00:23:50,292 --> 00:23:52,458 who one day found a mysterious egg 604 00:23:52,458 --> 00:23:53,583 in the Shi River 605 00:23:53,583 --> 00:23:55,750 that hatched into five dragons 606 00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:59,250 with the power to control water and weather. 607 00:23:59,250 --> 00:24:00,750 And while that's just a legend, 608 00:24:00,750 --> 00:24:02,375 there seems to be something strange 609 00:24:02,375 --> 00:24:04,083 ready to hatch right here 610 00:24:04,083 --> 00:24:06,292 in the fresh waters of America. 611 00:24:06,292 --> 00:24:07,292 [inquisitive music] 612 00:24:07,292 --> 00:24:09,417 March, 2021, 613 00:24:10,208 --> 00:24:12,417 Carters Lake, Northern Georgia. 614 00:24:13,375 --> 00:24:15,042 Photographer Kim Stricker, 615 00:24:15,042 --> 00:24:16,500 along with his son, Danny, 616 00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:19,042 are researching underwater habitats 617 00:24:19,042 --> 00:24:20,875 in this man made reservoir 618 00:24:20,875 --> 00:24:23,417 located on the Coosawattee River. 619 00:24:23,417 --> 00:24:25,375 As they swim beneath the surface, 620 00:24:25,375 --> 00:24:27,208 they suddenly find themselves 621 00:24:27,208 --> 00:24:29,708 face to face with something strange. 622 00:24:31,375 --> 00:24:34,875 Several uncanny circular-shaped pods 623 00:24:34,875 --> 00:24:37,625 connected to branches in the murky waters. 624 00:24:37,625 --> 00:24:39,958 Each one appears to have an outer layer 625 00:24:39,958 --> 00:24:41,375 of a skin-like substance 626 00:24:41,375 --> 00:24:44,458 riddled with strange bubble-like formations. 627 00:24:45,542 --> 00:24:47,542 - We saw these creatures, 628 00:24:47,542 --> 00:24:48,958 wondering what the heck they were. 629 00:24:48,958 --> 00:24:52,000 Some of 'em were the size of beach balls. 630 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,625 I had to touch 'em , 631 00:24:53,625 --> 00:24:56,208 and it was very gelatinous, 632 00:24:56,208 --> 00:24:59,125 it shook like a bowl full of jelly. [laughing] 633 00:24:59,125 --> 00:25:01,833 And a very slimy touch to it. 634 00:25:01,833 --> 00:25:04,917 It was very strange, there's no question, 635 00:25:04,917 --> 00:25:05,750 alien-like. 636 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,250 - There's been a lot of wild speculation online. 637 00:25:09,250 --> 00:25:10,542 Some people have wondered, 638 00:25:10,542 --> 00:25:13,542 could these things be some type of alien eggs? 639 00:25:13,542 --> 00:25:14,917 They look kind of weird 640 00:25:14,917 --> 00:25:16,875 and extraterrestrial in nature. 641 00:25:16,875 --> 00:25:19,042 - [Tony] The idea that extraterrestrials 642 00:25:19,042 --> 00:25:21,917 are planting things in earthly bodies of water 643 00:25:21,917 --> 00:25:24,667 might not be as far fetched as you think. 644 00:25:24,667 --> 00:25:25,792 - Earlier this year, 645 00:25:25,792 --> 00:25:27,375 there was a congressional hearing 646 00:25:27,375 --> 00:25:28,667 in which they featured 647 00:25:28,667 --> 00:25:30,708 a journalist named Michael Shellenberger 648 00:25:30,708 --> 00:25:32,708 Shellenberger, who's actually spoken 649 00:25:32,708 --> 00:25:34,542 to some government whistleblowers, 650 00:25:34,542 --> 00:25:36,667 outline several instances 651 00:25:36,667 --> 00:25:38,583 of credible observations 652 00:25:38,583 --> 00:25:40,708 of what he calls USOs, 653 00:25:40,708 --> 00:25:43,333 unidentified submerged objects. 654 00:25:43,333 --> 00:25:46,625 These are essentially UAPs that are seen under the water. 655 00:25:46,625 --> 00:25:49,250 - Are there any instances where the navy 656 00:25:49,250 --> 00:25:51,333 or other maritime forces 657 00:25:51,333 --> 00:25:53,250 have encountered UAPs 658 00:25:53,250 --> 00:25:55,125 that could not be explained 659 00:25:55,125 --> 00:25:56,542 by known technology 660 00:25:56,542 --> 00:25:58,125 or natural phenomena? 661 00:25:58,125 --> 00:25:59,458 - Yeah, there's actually a number of cases 662 00:25:59,458 --> 00:26:00,667 described in the report 663 00:26:00,667 --> 00:26:02,875 that occur in the ocean. 664 00:26:03,708 --> 00:26:05,042 - [Tony] Shellenberger claimed 665 00:26:05,042 --> 00:26:07,750 one of his sources saw a strange orb 666 00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:09,833 exiting from the ocean's surface, 667 00:26:09,833 --> 00:26:12,708 and it was met by another orb in the sky, 668 00:26:12,708 --> 00:26:15,833 using technology that seemed to defy human physics. 669 00:26:15,833 --> 00:26:18,042 - When you consider how difficult it is 670 00:26:18,042 --> 00:26:20,250 for us to go to some of these locations 671 00:26:20,250 --> 00:26:21,792 deep under the water 672 00:26:21,792 --> 00:26:23,708 and combine that with the fact 673 00:26:23,708 --> 00:26:26,250 that there have been many credible sightings 674 00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:28,208 of so-called USOs, 675 00:26:28,208 --> 00:26:31,875 if extraterrestrials do have a presence on our planet, 676 00:26:31,875 --> 00:26:33,708 the best place for them to hide 677 00:26:33,708 --> 00:26:34,958 would be under the water. 678 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,542 - Who can forget the creepy eggs 679 00:26:40,542 --> 00:26:42,708 from the "Alien" film franchise? 680 00:26:42,708 --> 00:26:45,042 Created by artist HR Giger, 681 00:26:45,042 --> 00:26:46,208 those horrific props 682 00:26:46,208 --> 00:26:48,500 were designed to make us feel uncomfortable. 683 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:50,042 They were lined with animal guts 684 00:26:50,042 --> 00:26:53,500 to perfect their gross organic appearance. 685 00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:54,875 Some say they look remarkably 686 00:26:54,875 --> 00:26:56,500 like the strange specimens 687 00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:58,375 from our investigation. 688 00:26:58,375 --> 00:27:02,000 But let's see what's hatching in the minds of our experts. 689 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,875 [text clacking] [inquisitive music] 690 00:27:05,875 --> 00:27:08,167 Is there any validity to the idea 691 00:27:08,167 --> 00:27:11,875 that these could be some form of extraterrestrial eggs? 692 00:27:11,875 --> 00:27:13,792 - If you're diving underwater 693 00:27:13,792 --> 00:27:15,500 in a freshwater lake like this, 694 00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:18,375 you wouldn't expect to see a giant glob 695 00:27:18,375 --> 00:27:19,708 that's stuck on a bunch of sticks 696 00:27:19,708 --> 00:27:20,958 like we see here. 697 00:27:20,958 --> 00:27:22,417 And I could see why you would think 698 00:27:22,417 --> 00:27:24,792 this might be alien in nature. 699 00:27:24,792 --> 00:27:27,708 It certainly looks unnatural. 700 00:27:27,708 --> 00:27:30,000 - [Tony] However, according to our experts, 701 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,542 not only is this thing not alien, 702 00:27:32,542 --> 00:27:34,583 it might not even be an egg. 703 00:27:34,583 --> 00:27:37,833 - Typically, whatever the offspring needs 704 00:27:37,833 --> 00:27:39,417 to sustain itself is inside of the egg 705 00:27:39,417 --> 00:27:40,958 and it doesn't really take any help 706 00:27:40,958 --> 00:27:42,750 from the external environment. 707 00:27:42,750 --> 00:27:44,542 Whereas whatever's going on here, 708 00:27:44,542 --> 00:27:46,833 it almost appears as if it's all kinds 709 00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:48,875 of little different individual structures 710 00:27:48,875 --> 00:27:50,792 serving some sort of purpose. 711 00:27:50,792 --> 00:27:51,958 My first thought here 712 00:27:51,958 --> 00:27:54,375 is this looks exactly like a coral, 713 00:27:54,375 --> 00:27:55,792 but not quite, 714 00:27:55,792 --> 00:27:58,125 it almost appears to be jelly-like. 715 00:27:58,125 --> 00:28:00,750 And it's also not really attached to the floor 716 00:28:00,750 --> 00:28:01,958 of the water body, 717 00:28:01,958 --> 00:28:03,708 like we usually see with corals. 718 00:28:03,708 --> 00:28:06,292 So it's a very interesting creature. 719 00:28:06,292 --> 00:28:09,875 - [Tony] Okay, so it is a creature of some kind, 720 00:28:09,875 --> 00:28:11,417 but what the heck is it? 721 00:28:11,417 --> 00:28:13,375 - What we're looking at here 722 00:28:13,375 --> 00:28:15,958 is a really cool type of creature 723 00:28:15,958 --> 00:28:18,458 that's known as a bryozoan, 724 00:28:18,458 --> 00:28:20,042 and these creatures are found 725 00:28:20,042 --> 00:28:22,500 throughout the world's oceans 726 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:25,375 as well as freshwater environments. 727 00:28:25,375 --> 00:28:28,708 - It's actually made up of millions of little organisms 728 00:28:28,708 --> 00:28:29,917 all bonding together 729 00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:32,250 to serve different purposes. 730 00:28:32,250 --> 00:28:34,708 They can actually get several feet in diameter. 731 00:28:34,708 --> 00:28:36,333 And while it looks like something 732 00:28:36,333 --> 00:28:38,000 you wouldn't want in your swimming pool, 733 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,125 these can actually indicate good water quality. 734 00:28:41,125 --> 00:28:43,542 - Bryozoans are found a lot of times 735 00:28:43,542 --> 00:28:45,792 in areas where humans also are, 736 00:28:45,792 --> 00:28:47,833 like shallow lakes 737 00:28:47,833 --> 00:28:51,333 or around things like docks and marinas. 738 00:28:51,333 --> 00:28:53,375 It's very, very cool. 739 00:28:53,375 --> 00:28:56,208 I might even say it's almost as cool as an alien. 740 00:28:58,292 --> 00:29:00,958 [text clacking] 741 00:29:02,333 --> 00:29:03,542 - Our verdict, 742 00:29:03,542 --> 00:29:05,458 these are the colonial life forms 743 00:29:05,458 --> 00:29:07,375 known as bryozoans. 744 00:29:07,375 --> 00:29:09,583 Fossilized bryozoan colonies 745 00:29:09,583 --> 00:29:12,708 date back almost 500 million years, 746 00:29:12,708 --> 00:29:15,292 making them older than dinosaurs. 747 00:29:15,292 --> 00:29:18,333 Looks like we're safe from an underwater alien invasion, 748 00:29:18,458 --> 00:29:19,125 for now. 749 00:29:23,250 --> 00:29:25,042 - The gift of myrrh has held a special place 750 00:29:25,042 --> 00:29:27,125 in Christianity for centuries, 751 00:29:27,125 --> 00:29:30,042 considered sacred enough to be presented to the baby Jesus 752 00:29:30,042 --> 00:29:33,167 alongside gold and frankincense. 753 00:29:33,167 --> 00:29:36,208 And when it allegedly started leaking from a religious icon, 754 00:29:36,208 --> 00:29:39,583 some considered it a message from the Almighty. 755 00:29:39,583 --> 00:29:41,042 [inquisitive music] 756 00:29:41,042 --> 00:29:44,375 It's summer, 2007, at a Russian Orthodox church 757 00:29:44,375 --> 00:29:46,208 in Honolulu, Hawaii. 758 00:29:46,208 --> 00:29:49,250 Resident priest, Father Nectarios Yangson, 759 00:29:49,250 --> 00:29:52,792 begins noticing a sweet scent resembling roses. 760 00:29:52,792 --> 00:29:55,042 For months, he is unable to locate 761 00:29:55,042 --> 00:29:56,542 the origin of the scent, 762 00:29:56,542 --> 00:29:58,208 until one night when his cat 763 00:29:58,208 --> 00:30:01,083 starts uncharacteristically snipping around 764 00:30:01,083 --> 00:30:04,042 Nectarios's many religious icons, 765 00:30:04,042 --> 00:30:06,375 sacred images that depict holy figures, 766 00:30:06,375 --> 00:30:08,042 events and symbols. 767 00:30:08,917 --> 00:30:10,375 Upon investigating, 768 00:30:10,375 --> 00:30:13,375 he's shocked to find this. 769 00:30:13,375 --> 00:30:14,667 Two of his icons 770 00:30:14,667 --> 00:30:17,667 appear to be dripping a strange liquid. 771 00:30:17,667 --> 00:30:19,333 Take a closer look. 772 00:30:19,333 --> 00:30:22,458 According to Nectarios and his fellow eyewitnesses, 773 00:30:22,458 --> 00:30:24,792 these icons are streaming myrrh. 774 00:30:24,792 --> 00:30:26,333 And the star of the show 775 00:30:26,333 --> 00:30:31,042 is a picture known as the Iveron icon of the Mother of God, 776 00:30:31,042 --> 00:30:33,458 which has a stream that doesn't seem to stop. 777 00:30:34,542 --> 00:30:36,875 - So myrrh itself is a resin 778 00:30:36,875 --> 00:30:40,042 that comes from scoring the Commiphora myrrh wood. 779 00:30:40,042 --> 00:30:42,625 We know it was one of the elements 780 00:30:42,625 --> 00:30:44,375 used to create incense 781 00:30:44,375 --> 00:30:48,125 in the first and second temples in Jerusalem. 782 00:30:48,125 --> 00:30:51,458 And then, of course, we see it in the Three Kings 783 00:30:51,458 --> 00:30:53,250 coming to visit the Baby Jesus, 784 00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:57,875 who they gift with frankincense, gold and myrrh. 785 00:30:57,875 --> 00:30:59,208 - [Tony] Members of the clergy 786 00:30:59,208 --> 00:31:00,625 inspect the icon 787 00:31:00,625 --> 00:31:03,000 and confirm that it is indeed myrrh, 788 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,750 and that there is no visible tube 789 00:31:04,750 --> 00:31:07,375 or mechanism releasing the fluid. 790 00:31:07,375 --> 00:31:10,250 Before long, things of a miraculous nature 791 00:31:10,250 --> 00:31:12,417 seem to happen in its presence. 792 00:31:12,417 --> 00:31:14,708 - Nectarios is praying for his sister, 793 00:31:14,708 --> 00:31:16,917 who's pancreas is not functioning 794 00:31:16,917 --> 00:31:18,833 and who has diabetes. 795 00:31:18,833 --> 00:31:20,875 And it's the next day that she calls him 796 00:31:20,875 --> 00:31:24,625 and says, "My doctor doesn't know how it happened, 797 00:31:24,625 --> 00:31:26,292 but I'm suddenly cured." 798 00:31:27,375 --> 00:31:29,042 - [Tony] After the Russian Orthodox church 799 00:31:29,042 --> 00:31:31,333 declared the icon miraculous, 800 00:31:31,333 --> 00:31:33,500 it was carried from church to church, 801 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:35,750 escorted like a sacred relic, 802 00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:38,042 drawing crowds wherever it went. 803 00:31:38,042 --> 00:31:39,750 - People talk about the experience 804 00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:41,042 and they all mention 805 00:31:41,042 --> 00:31:43,250 how just being in the presence of the icon 806 00:31:43,250 --> 00:31:46,833 brings them some kind of good feelings and healings 807 00:31:46,833 --> 00:31:48,792 and all of these sorts of things. 808 00:31:48,792 --> 00:31:50,792 If you are a believer, 809 00:31:50,792 --> 00:31:52,708 this really does provide 810 00:31:52,708 --> 00:31:54,542 some kind of proof for you 811 00:31:54,542 --> 00:31:56,292 that miracles are real. 812 00:31:59,167 --> 00:32:00,542 - Frankincense and myrrh 813 00:32:00,542 --> 00:32:02,667 are tree resins used for incense 814 00:32:02,667 --> 00:32:03,708 and natural medicines. 815 00:32:03,708 --> 00:32:05,083 In the time of Jesus, 816 00:32:05,083 --> 00:32:06,750 they were considered precious. 817 00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:08,375 It took a lot of work to make them, 818 00:32:08,375 --> 00:32:10,792 and the tree resins came from exotic lands, 819 00:32:10,792 --> 00:32:13,125 like India and East Africa. 820 00:32:13,125 --> 00:32:14,208 But how much value 821 00:32:14,208 --> 00:32:15,833 should we give to the theory 822 00:32:15,833 --> 00:32:18,292 that this dripping myrrh 823 00:32:18,292 --> 00:32:19,958 is a miracle? 824 00:32:19,958 --> 00:32:24,250 [text clacking] [inquisitive music] 825 00:32:24,250 --> 00:32:26,708 - This is as old as the Bible. 826 00:32:26,708 --> 00:32:29,958 You have an object of reverence 827 00:32:29,958 --> 00:32:33,375 that exhibits some kind of supernatural phenomenon, 828 00:32:33,375 --> 00:32:35,917 like sweating, bleeding of some sort. 829 00:32:35,917 --> 00:32:37,708 Then word spreads 830 00:32:37,708 --> 00:32:40,958 that you can be cured of diseases. 831 00:32:40,958 --> 00:32:43,875 Then long lines appear. 832 00:32:43,875 --> 00:32:45,542 And then you have people walking away 833 00:32:45,542 --> 00:32:47,750 with fabulous amounts of money, [laughing] 834 00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:49,708 because they're charged. 835 00:32:49,708 --> 00:32:51,375 - In the examination of miracles, 836 00:32:51,375 --> 00:32:53,708 it is very important to figure out 837 00:32:53,708 --> 00:32:55,833 whether or not these icons 838 00:32:55,833 --> 00:32:57,875 have been set up as a hoax 839 00:32:57,875 --> 00:32:59,542 in order to fool the faithful 840 00:32:59,542 --> 00:33:01,208 and perhaps lead to financial gain 841 00:33:01,208 --> 00:33:03,208 or some other improprieties. 842 00:33:03,208 --> 00:33:05,292 - [Tony] Scam warning noted. 843 00:33:05,292 --> 00:33:07,125 But in the case of this icon, 844 00:33:07,125 --> 00:33:09,833 no one was ever charged to see it. 845 00:33:09,833 --> 00:33:11,250 Although Orthodox churches 846 00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:13,542 did report an increase in donations 847 00:33:13,542 --> 00:33:15,208 while hosting the item. 848 00:33:15,208 --> 00:33:17,708 While there's no clear evidence of fraud, 849 00:33:17,708 --> 00:33:21,708 claims of cures rely solely on personal testimonies, 850 00:33:21,708 --> 00:33:24,042 not medical documentation. 851 00:33:24,042 --> 00:33:26,417 And unlike other miraculous icons, 852 00:33:26,417 --> 00:33:29,708 like this weeping Mary statue from New Mexico 853 00:33:29,708 --> 00:33:31,958 that was scientifically evaluated 854 00:33:31,958 --> 00:33:33,875 for chambers and hoses, 855 00:33:33,875 --> 00:33:35,917 this icon was only examined 856 00:33:35,917 --> 00:33:38,500 by members of the Orthodox clergy. 857 00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:41,458 - People say, "I'm cured," but is it real? 858 00:33:41,458 --> 00:33:43,042 Is it psychological? 859 00:33:43,042 --> 00:33:45,708 There's no scientific basis to this. 860 00:33:45,708 --> 00:33:47,792 It's all hearsay. 861 00:33:47,792 --> 00:33:49,875 There's no reliable statistics 862 00:33:49,875 --> 00:33:52,292 on any of these incidences. 863 00:33:52,292 --> 00:33:53,958 - [Tony] What is undeniable 864 00:33:53,958 --> 00:33:55,167 is that this icon 865 00:33:55,167 --> 00:33:58,042 is having a profound effect on people. 866 00:33:58,042 --> 00:33:59,750 - One thing we might be seeing 867 00:33:59,750 --> 00:34:01,917 is the power of suggestion. 868 00:34:01,917 --> 00:34:03,292 It's been documented 869 00:34:03,292 --> 00:34:06,792 that sometimes if you believe in a certain cure, 870 00:34:06,792 --> 00:34:08,875 sometimes you will get better. 871 00:34:08,875 --> 00:34:10,667 We sometimes have to realize 872 00:34:10,667 --> 00:34:12,667 that there are placebo effects. 873 00:34:12,667 --> 00:34:14,250 Then the bottom line is, 874 00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:17,583 well, do we think that it's real, fake or what? 875 00:34:17,583 --> 00:34:19,542 Well, the short answer is, 876 00:34:19,542 --> 00:34:20,667 I don't know. 877 00:34:20,667 --> 00:34:22,708 - In order for this to be a hoax 878 00:34:22,708 --> 00:34:25,542 and to be pulled off in such an effective way, 879 00:34:25,542 --> 00:34:28,375 it would require many people to be involved, 880 00:34:28,375 --> 00:34:30,958 and perhaps it would be something of a diabolical plot. 881 00:34:30,958 --> 00:34:32,208 In this particular case, 882 00:34:32,208 --> 00:34:33,708 we have no such proof 883 00:34:33,708 --> 00:34:36,750 that something was happening. 884 00:34:36,750 --> 00:34:38,000 And so for me personally, 885 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,333 I think this is potentially a true miracle 886 00:34:41,333 --> 00:34:43,125 that needs to be reckoned with. 887 00:34:43,125 --> 00:34:45,708 [text clacking] 888 00:34:47,208 --> 00:34:48,375 - Our verdict, 889 00:34:48,375 --> 00:34:50,708 we're going with possible miracle. 890 00:34:50,708 --> 00:34:53,250 Unsurprisingly, our miracle researcher 891 00:34:53,250 --> 00:34:55,542 has more faith than our physicist, 892 00:34:55,542 --> 00:34:56,792 but they both agreed 893 00:34:56,792 --> 00:34:57,708 there's not enough evidence 894 00:34:57,708 --> 00:35:00,083 to prove that this is a hoax. 895 00:35:00,083 --> 00:35:01,375 Like so many of our stories, 896 00:35:01,375 --> 00:35:03,708 there's plenty of room for skepticism 897 00:35:03,708 --> 00:35:04,333 and for belief. 898 00:35:08,708 --> 00:35:11,792 - Are audio waves secretly being used as weapons? 899 00:35:11,792 --> 00:35:14,542 That's the question a growing group of American diplomats, 900 00:35:14,542 --> 00:35:17,708 spies and government employees are asking 901 00:35:17,708 --> 00:35:20,750 after falling ill in Cuba and elsewhere. 902 00:35:20,750 --> 00:35:21,875 They believe they are victims 903 00:35:21,875 --> 00:35:25,750 of covert attacks perpetrated by unknown assailants 904 00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:28,042 using unknown technology. 905 00:35:28,042 --> 00:35:30,125 We've been covering this phenomenon 906 00:35:30,125 --> 00:35:32,708 known as Havana syndrome for years. 907 00:35:32,708 --> 00:35:34,750 It began in late 2016 908 00:35:34,750 --> 00:35:37,375 when several diplomats and other employees 909 00:35:37,375 --> 00:35:39,917 stationed at the US Embassy in Havana, Cuba, 910 00:35:39,917 --> 00:35:42,333 reported concussion-like symptoms 911 00:35:42,333 --> 00:35:45,250 after hearing a strange high-pitched noise. 912 00:35:45,250 --> 00:35:48,042 The associated press later released a recording 913 00:35:48,042 --> 00:35:50,750 which it claimed could be that noise. 914 00:35:50,750 --> 00:35:52,542 [high-pitched ringing] 915 00:35:52,542 --> 00:35:55,042 The sound is a high-pitched whine 916 00:35:55,042 --> 00:35:57,875 that seems to undulate, even rive, 917 00:35:57,875 --> 00:36:00,708 which produces a nails-on-the-chalkboard effect. 918 00:36:01,708 --> 00:36:03,375 Similar attacks are later reported 919 00:36:03,375 --> 00:36:05,375 by US officials in China, 920 00:36:05,375 --> 00:36:07,792 Austria and Russia. 921 00:36:07,792 --> 00:36:10,583 - Over the years, a community of Havana syndrome sufferers 922 00:36:10,583 --> 00:36:11,625 has formed. 923 00:36:11,625 --> 00:36:12,375 It's massive, 924 00:36:12,375 --> 00:36:14,375 and they are demanding answers. 925 00:36:14,375 --> 00:36:17,458 - Marc Polymeropoulos, a senior CIA official, 926 00:36:17,458 --> 00:36:19,458 believes he was targeted one night 927 00:36:19,458 --> 00:36:21,958 while on official business in Moscow. 928 00:36:21,958 --> 00:36:24,750 - This was by far the most terrifying experience. 929 00:36:24,750 --> 00:36:26,042 The room was spinning, 930 00:36:26,042 --> 00:36:27,042 I couldn't stand up without falling down, 931 00:36:27,042 --> 00:36:28,125 I felt nauseous, 932 00:36:28,125 --> 00:36:29,542 I had incredible case of tinnitus 933 00:36:29,542 --> 00:36:31,167 ringing in my ears, a headache. 934 00:36:31,167 --> 00:36:33,000 So I knew something was seriously wrong. 935 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,542 [inquisitive music] 936 00:36:34,542 --> 00:36:36,958 Not only were we subject to an attack, 937 00:36:36,958 --> 00:36:38,458 but I think it's still ongoing. 938 00:36:38,458 --> 00:36:39,958 And that poses a lot of serious questions 939 00:36:39,958 --> 00:36:41,167 for the US government. 940 00:36:42,917 --> 00:36:44,333 - [Tony] If the Havana syndrome 941 00:36:44,333 --> 00:36:46,833 is caused by some sort of sonic weapon, 942 00:36:46,833 --> 00:36:48,375 it wouldn't be the first. 943 00:36:48,375 --> 00:36:50,625 The sonic weapon most commonly deployed today 944 00:36:50,625 --> 00:36:53,500 is the long-range acoustic device, 945 00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:55,667 which has recently been used by police departments 946 00:36:55,667 --> 00:36:58,125 to break up major protests and riots. 947 00:36:58,125 --> 00:37:00,333 - The LRAD system was designed 948 00:37:00,333 --> 00:37:02,333 for crowd dispersal 949 00:37:02,333 --> 00:37:03,875 in a non-lethal way. 950 00:37:03,875 --> 00:37:06,458 [LRAD blaring] 951 00:37:08,792 --> 00:37:11,875 - So, folks, this is scary stuff and very real. 952 00:37:11,875 --> 00:37:13,667 What is that sound 953 00:37:13,667 --> 00:37:16,875 recorded in Havana? [high-pitched ringing] 954 00:37:16,875 --> 00:37:19,250 Did it make US personnel sick, 955 00:37:19,250 --> 00:37:21,083 or was there some other weapon 956 00:37:21,083 --> 00:37:23,833 or force responsible? 957 00:37:23,833 --> 00:37:25,375 Let's ask our experts. 958 00:37:25,375 --> 00:37:30,208 [text clacking] [inquisitive music] 959 00:37:30,208 --> 00:37:31,542 - Even the most recent research 960 00:37:31,542 --> 00:37:33,375 has a fundamental problem, 961 00:37:33,375 --> 00:37:36,333 which is that those who experience Havana syndrome 962 00:37:36,333 --> 00:37:39,500 don't all have the same set of symptoms. 963 00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:41,292 People have different physical symptoms, 964 00:37:41,292 --> 00:37:42,333 they hear a sound, 965 00:37:42,333 --> 00:37:43,542 but they hear it differently, 966 00:37:43,542 --> 00:37:45,125 and that's made it really difficult 967 00:37:45,125 --> 00:37:47,875 to pinpoint what the cause might be. 968 00:37:47,875 --> 00:37:49,708 - [Tony] So, first things first, 969 00:37:49,708 --> 00:37:52,208 that recording released by the AP, 970 00:37:52,208 --> 00:37:53,875 what was it really? 971 00:37:53,875 --> 00:37:55,208 [inquisitive music] 972 00:37:55,208 --> 00:37:56,625 - I've worked in some tropical locations, 973 00:37:56,625 --> 00:37:59,042 and there were times where I would hear 974 00:37:59,042 --> 00:38:01,042 very similar piercing calls. 975 00:38:01,042 --> 00:38:05,792 This sound is produced by a species of tropical cricket 976 00:38:05,792 --> 00:38:07,958 called the Indies short-tailed cricket. 977 00:38:07,958 --> 00:38:11,208 [cricket chirping] 978 00:38:11,208 --> 00:38:12,542 As you can see, 979 00:38:12,542 --> 00:38:15,708 the frequency range is a perfect overlap 980 00:38:15,708 --> 00:38:18,750 and it also has similar harmonic characteristics. 981 00:38:18,750 --> 00:38:21,458 So I'm saying that it is a really clean match. 982 00:38:21,458 --> 00:38:23,625 - [Tony] So the sound is just chirping crickets 983 00:38:23,625 --> 00:38:26,000 coincidentally recorded at the moment 984 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,625 people were getting sick. 985 00:38:27,625 --> 00:38:29,667 Could Havana syndrome have been caused 986 00:38:29,667 --> 00:38:31,458 by a different kind of weapon, 987 00:38:31,458 --> 00:38:33,375 one people can't hear? 988 00:38:33,375 --> 00:38:35,208 Way back in 1962, 989 00:38:35,208 --> 00:38:37,292 an American scientist, Allan Frey, 990 00:38:37,292 --> 00:38:39,208 suggested a microwave weapon 991 00:38:39,208 --> 00:38:40,917 could be used to raise the temperature 992 00:38:40,917 --> 00:38:42,042 inside a person's ear 993 00:38:42,042 --> 00:38:44,000 by a millionth of a degree. 994 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,375 That would be enough 995 00:38:45,375 --> 00:38:47,708 to cause a victim to feel dizzy, nauseous, 996 00:38:47,708 --> 00:38:50,375 or experience pressure in their head. 997 00:38:50,375 --> 00:38:51,417 And get this, 998 00:38:51,417 --> 00:38:53,375 Frey later lectured on the topic 999 00:38:53,375 --> 00:38:56,000 to the Soviet Academy of Sciences in Moscow. 1000 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,375 So could the Russians be behind some new technology? 1001 00:39:00,625 --> 00:39:01,708 - While the injuries are consistent 1002 00:39:01,708 --> 00:39:03,750 with exposure to microwave weapons, 1003 00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:05,458 it's important to know that these type of weapons 1004 00:39:05,458 --> 00:39:06,708 are unknown to exist. 1005 00:39:07,875 --> 00:39:09,375 - [Tony] And many in the medical community 1006 00:39:09,375 --> 00:39:11,750 remain deeply skeptical. 1007 00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:14,667 - Mass hysteria is a very real thing 1008 00:39:14,667 --> 00:39:17,333 in which we see large groups of people 1009 00:39:17,333 --> 00:39:19,583 exhibit physical and physiological symptoms 1010 00:39:19,583 --> 00:39:21,875 that have no known medical cause. 1011 00:39:21,875 --> 00:39:24,708 And there are many examples of it throughout history. 1012 00:39:24,708 --> 00:39:28,875 One very famous mass hysteria event occurred in 1518 1013 00:39:28,875 --> 00:39:30,875 in the French Village of Strasbourg, France. 1014 00:39:30,875 --> 00:39:32,500 [locals laughing] A woman began dancing 1015 00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:34,667 and didn't stop for two weeks straight. 1016 00:39:34,667 --> 00:39:36,792 More and more people began to join her, 1017 00:39:36,792 --> 00:39:40,333 and eventually as many as 400 people were dancing. 1018 00:39:40,333 --> 00:39:42,583 - [Tony] So it was all in their heads? 1019 00:39:42,583 --> 00:39:45,792 Before a consensus could form around that explanation, 1020 00:39:45,792 --> 00:39:48,250 in January, 2025, 1021 00:39:48,250 --> 00:39:50,792 a new bombshell dropped. 1022 00:39:50,792 --> 00:39:52,958 - For a long time, a weapon was ruled out 1023 00:39:52,958 --> 00:39:55,250 as being the potential cause of Havana syndrome. 1024 00:39:55,250 --> 00:39:56,958 But in a recent development, 1025 00:39:56,958 --> 00:39:58,375 two US intelligence agencies 1026 00:39:58,375 --> 00:40:01,375 say that that theory could actually hold some water. 1027 00:40:01,375 --> 00:40:03,167 But both the medical community 1028 00:40:03,167 --> 00:40:04,542 and the intelligence community 1029 00:40:04,542 --> 00:40:07,000 have studied Havana syndrome at length, 1030 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,167 and they're not any closer 1031 00:40:08,167 --> 00:40:09,875 to figuring out what's going on. 1032 00:40:09,875 --> 00:40:12,625 [text clacking] 1033 00:40:14,167 --> 00:40:16,000 - It's a split decision. 1034 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,292 Our verdict, 1035 00:40:17,292 --> 00:40:18,875 the sound that was alleged to have caused 1036 00:40:18,875 --> 00:40:20,208 the Havana syndrome 1037 00:40:20,208 --> 00:40:22,792 is an Indies short-tailed cricket, 1038 00:40:22,792 --> 00:40:25,125 coincidentally making that noise 1039 00:40:25,125 --> 00:40:27,417 at the same time as the attack. 1040 00:40:27,417 --> 00:40:29,208 But Havana syndrome itself 1041 00:40:29,208 --> 00:40:31,583 is still an unexplained phenomenon. 1042 00:40:31,583 --> 00:40:33,125 And that's our show for tonight. 1043 00:40:33,125 --> 00:40:34,667 Thank you so much for watching. 1044 00:40:34,667 --> 00:40:37,208 And as always, keep those cameras rolling. 1045 00:40:37,208 --> 00:40:39,917 [dynamic music]