1 00:00:05,589 --> 00:00:07,130 - Tonight, on the proof is out there. 2 00:00:07,258 --> 00:00:08,665 What are these legendary texas lights? 3 00:00:08,926 --> 00:00:10,759 - The apache believed that these lights 4 00:00:11,012 --> 00:00:14,087 Are ghost of a long dead chief named alsate. 5 00:00:14,098 --> 00:00:15,021 - [tony] what spirit possessed 6 00:00:15,141 --> 00:00:17,507 This goat to walk down the street like a human? 7 00:00:17,643 --> 00:00:18,642 - Wow, that's crazy. 8 00:00:18,936 --> 00:00:22,021 We would not expect to see this on a hoofed animal. 9 00:00:23,065 --> 00:00:24,732 - [tony] what is this over a crowded city? 10 00:00:24,975 --> 00:00:27,317 A ufo or a kamikazi weapon? 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,049 - [tony] and what's the evidence 12 00:00:34,201 --> 00:00:36,510 This woman was saved by a guardian angel 13 00:00:36,620 --> 00:00:38,278 After falling under a subway. 14 00:00:38,539 --> 00:00:42,299 - This person definitely came through this unscathed 15 00:00:42,460 --> 00:00:44,785 Because of some sort of divine intervention. 16 00:00:44,986 --> 00:00:47,129 (dramatic music) 17 00:00:48,507 --> 00:00:50,390 - [tony] around the globe are videos. 18 00:00:50,392 --> 00:00:52,008 - [woman] what the heck is this? 19 00:00:52,011 --> 00:00:53,427 - [man] it's moving. 20 00:00:53,712 --> 00:00:56,371 - [tony] photos and sounds that defy explanation. 21 00:00:56,474 --> 00:00:59,224 (dramatic music) 22 00:01:02,188 --> 00:01:04,304 - [marc] is it some kind of unidentified object? 23 00:01:04,589 --> 00:01:06,523 What's exciting is nobody really knows. 24 00:01:07,568 --> 00:01:08,317 - [tony] what are they? 25 00:01:08,527 --> 00:01:10,510 - [mj] some sort of bizarre mutation. 26 00:01:10,696 --> 00:01:13,864 - Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 27 00:01:15,826 --> 00:01:16,650 - I'm tony harris, 28 00:01:16,869 --> 00:01:19,152 And as a journalist for more than 30 years, 29 00:01:19,413 --> 00:01:22,072 I've followed the facts where they take me. 30 00:01:22,333 --> 00:01:24,507 Now, I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 31 00:01:24,627 --> 00:01:27,211 To the world's strangest sounds and images. 32 00:01:28,214 --> 00:01:30,923 We'll analyze each one with top experts. 33 00:01:31,175 --> 00:01:34,084 - It's a credible case, it's a credible video. 34 00:01:34,303 --> 00:01:36,945 - [tony] and pass a verdict on what it is. 35 00:01:37,056 --> 00:01:38,972 - This video was clearly faked. 36 00:01:39,174 --> 00:01:41,558 - The proof starts now. 37 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,561 (dramatic theme music) 38 00:01:48,692 --> 00:01:51,518 Good evening and welcome to the proof is out there. 39 00:01:51,737 --> 00:01:53,337 Around the world, we've been seeing 40 00:01:53,447 --> 00:01:55,372 A strange phenomenon that so far, 41 00:01:55,533 --> 00:01:58,842 Science has been unable to explain definitively. 42 00:01:58,911 --> 00:02:00,118 Well, it's here again, 43 00:02:00,204 --> 00:02:02,437 This time in the lone star state. 44 00:02:02,623 --> 00:02:04,881 We all know texas is probably best known 45 00:02:05,042 --> 00:02:09,628 For its cowboys and cattle, but wait until you see this. 46 00:02:10,631 --> 00:02:13,131 June 5th, 2019. 47 00:02:13,175 --> 00:02:15,425 It's dusk in the west texas desert 48 00:02:15,469 --> 00:02:16,985 Outside the town of marfa, 49 00:02:17,138 --> 00:02:19,554 About 400 miles from the capitol of austin. 50 00:02:19,723 --> 00:02:22,232 Margaret collier is with her family on the side of the road 51 00:02:22,393 --> 00:02:24,351 Hoping to see something that has been reported 52 00:02:24,562 --> 00:02:26,395 For well over a hundred years. 53 00:02:27,898 --> 00:02:29,990 And just as the sun begins to go down, 54 00:02:30,067 --> 00:02:31,483 She captures this. 55 00:02:33,112 --> 00:02:35,245 Bright glowing orbs appear on the horizon 56 00:02:35,364 --> 00:02:37,990 That begin to twinkle and then disappear. 57 00:02:42,538 --> 00:02:45,422 I think the big, like, surprise moment for me 58 00:02:45,583 --> 00:02:47,040 Was when they really started, you know, 59 00:02:47,284 --> 00:02:48,992 Lighting up and splitting off 60 00:02:49,211 --> 00:02:51,402 And all the different colors showing up. 61 00:02:51,547 --> 00:02:53,814 That was the most exciting for me. 62 00:02:53,924 --> 00:02:54,965 - [tony] then as night falls, margaret 63 00:02:55,259 --> 00:02:59,152 Continues to film the lights dancing over the desert plains. 64 00:02:59,263 --> 00:03:01,054 - I was just so mesmerized by it. 65 00:03:01,348 --> 00:03:05,158 It would be really cool if it was something paranormal 66 00:03:05,227 --> 00:03:07,010 Or alien related. 67 00:03:07,271 --> 00:03:09,897 - [tony] what are these strange balls of energy? 68 00:03:10,107 --> 00:03:11,614 Journalist mj banias explains 69 00:03:11,775 --> 00:03:15,502 This mysterious phenomenon is known as the marfa lights. 70 00:03:15,654 --> 00:03:18,380 - The marfa lights fall into a broader category 71 00:03:18,574 --> 00:03:21,358 Of light phenomena we often refer to as ghost lights. 72 00:03:21,619 --> 00:03:25,329 Ghost lights are these anomalous sources of light 73 00:03:25,581 --> 00:03:29,299 That appear and disappear at random in a given area. 74 00:03:29,418 --> 00:03:31,534 People have no idea where they come from. 75 00:03:31,795 --> 00:03:33,286 - [tony] banias explains that ever since 76 00:03:33,505 --> 00:03:35,205 The first documented case of the lights 77 00:03:35,424 --> 00:03:38,049 Was reported by a cow hand back in 1883, 78 00:03:38,135 --> 00:03:39,626 There have been plenty of theories 79 00:03:39,762 --> 00:03:41,561 As to what they could be. 80 00:03:41,722 --> 00:03:43,555 - The local indigenous group in the area, the apache, 81 00:03:43,766 --> 00:03:45,148 Believed that these lights 82 00:03:45,309 --> 00:03:48,035 Are the ghost of a long dead chief named alsate. 83 00:03:48,145 --> 00:03:49,052 According to the legend, 84 00:03:49,313 --> 00:03:53,556 Alsate was killed by a mexican firing squad in 1882 85 00:03:53,776 --> 00:03:56,150 And what people are seeing is his ghost 86 00:03:56,278 --> 00:04:00,322 Roaming through the territory for some unfinished business. 87 00:04:02,368 --> 00:04:03,683 - [tony] but while many experts believe 88 00:04:03,911 --> 00:04:05,969 There must be a more scientific explanation, 89 00:04:06,163 --> 00:04:09,806 Banaias says exactly what they could be is up for debate. 90 00:04:09,917 --> 00:04:11,499 - They would say that this is some 91 00:04:11,543 --> 00:04:12,567 Sort of other light phenomenon, 92 00:04:12,795 --> 00:04:16,546 Whether it's some sort of electromagnetic phenomenon. 93 00:04:16,590 --> 00:04:18,248 You know, humidity mixing 94 00:04:18,509 --> 00:04:20,908 With electricity in the air causing sparks. 95 00:04:21,053 --> 00:04:22,319 But between these different theories, 96 00:04:22,429 --> 00:04:24,071 Supernatural versus natural, 97 00:04:24,223 --> 00:04:27,307 We still don't really know what causes the marfa lights. 98 00:04:27,518 --> 00:04:29,518 It still remains a mystery to this day. 99 00:04:31,605 --> 00:04:33,163 - So what do we have here? 100 00:04:33,315 --> 00:04:36,032 It has been said that if you ask 100 different people 101 00:04:36,110 --> 00:04:37,700 What the marfa lights are, 102 00:04:37,820 --> 00:04:39,820 You will get 100 different answers. 103 00:04:40,030 --> 00:04:42,422 In fact, many come together each summer 104 00:04:42,533 --> 00:04:44,524 For the marfa lights festival, 105 00:04:44,743 --> 00:04:47,077 But admittedly that's more of a party 106 00:04:47,246 --> 00:04:48,695 Than a scientific conference. 107 00:04:48,914 --> 00:04:51,330 For that angle, we'll need to ask our experts 108 00:04:51,333 --> 00:04:52,391 What they think. 109 00:04:52,459 --> 00:04:54,751 (tense music) 110 00:04:56,005 --> 00:04:58,688 We begin with astronomer and video effects designer, 111 00:04:58,757 --> 00:04:59,781 Marc d'antonio. 112 00:04:59,925 --> 00:05:01,724 Is there a logical explanation? 113 00:05:01,844 --> 00:05:03,710 Is this simply car lights in the distance? 114 00:05:03,887 --> 00:05:04,786 - I don't think so. 115 00:05:04,988 --> 00:05:06,229 What we watch here, 116 00:05:06,307 --> 00:05:08,139 These lights are pretty stationary 117 00:05:08,225 --> 00:05:09,466 And the marfa lights have been seen 118 00:05:09,667 --> 00:05:11,076 For over a hundred years 119 00:05:11,228 --> 00:05:14,604 And we didn't have cars on highways back then. 120 00:05:15,649 --> 00:05:17,490 - [tony] could this then be a natural event? 121 00:05:17,568 --> 00:05:19,251 D'antonio explains. 122 00:05:19,403 --> 00:05:20,677 - Maybe it could be a static discharge. 123 00:05:20,738 --> 00:05:25,032 Lights generated by the planet because of static charge, 124 00:05:25,242 --> 00:05:27,683 Current being generated by rushing water 125 00:05:27,911 --> 00:05:30,086 And through a particular rock strata. 126 00:05:30,247 --> 00:05:31,913 It's like when you rub your feet in the carpet 127 00:05:32,082 --> 00:05:33,665 And you touch something. 128 00:05:34,918 --> 00:05:37,410 - [tony] while d'antonio can't rule out static discharge, 129 00:05:37,671 --> 00:05:40,238 Most of us associate flashes of light and electrical 130 00:05:40,382 --> 00:05:42,049 Activity with the weather. 131 00:05:42,259 --> 00:05:44,092 So is this an atmospheric event? 132 00:05:44,386 --> 00:05:47,170 We take that question to meteorologist juan hernandez. 133 00:05:47,389 --> 00:05:49,739 - When light is created by the atmosphere, 134 00:05:49,933 --> 00:05:54,677 It comes from electrical charges such as lightning. 135 00:05:54,813 --> 00:05:55,920 It's a very big flash, 136 00:05:56,148 --> 00:05:59,507 Something that is very quick to happen and then disappears. 137 00:05:59,693 --> 00:06:02,085 But to get storms, we need moisture. 138 00:06:02,154 --> 00:06:05,046 We need plenty of shear. 139 00:06:05,048 --> 00:06:06,989 We need something to move across the region 140 00:06:07,034 --> 00:06:08,458 To create those storms. 141 00:06:08,619 --> 00:06:11,661 In this case, it's a clear day which would rule out 142 00:06:11,789 --> 00:06:14,264 The possibility of an atmospheric phenomenon 143 00:06:14,333 --> 00:06:15,707 Causing these lights. 144 00:06:16,627 --> 00:06:17,934 - [tony] while hernandez rules out 145 00:06:18,003 --> 00:06:19,377 Weather above ground, 146 00:06:19,463 --> 00:06:22,005 D'antonio notes another theory comes from below. 147 00:06:22,966 --> 00:06:25,092 Are gases from beneath the ground being released 148 00:06:25,302 --> 00:06:27,794 And igniting from tectonic forces? 149 00:06:28,055 --> 00:06:31,314 - The theory is that lights that are generated 150 00:06:31,433 --> 00:06:34,876 By some type of electrical energy 151 00:06:35,145 --> 00:06:38,521 Coupled with some magnetic influences perhaps underground, 152 00:06:38,607 --> 00:06:40,673 That ends up becoming visible in the air 153 00:06:40,818 --> 00:06:43,585 As some type of lit phenomena. 154 00:06:43,695 --> 00:06:45,253 Certainly something is glowing. 155 00:06:45,364 --> 00:06:47,314 - [tony] but hernandez isn't so sure. 156 00:06:47,408 --> 00:06:50,050 - Tectonic activity is unlikely to have caused these lights 157 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,227 Because in reality, there is no significant 158 00:06:53,372 --> 00:06:56,564 Tectonic movement in the marfa region. 159 00:06:56,750 --> 00:07:00,084 It all is associated across the west coast 160 00:07:00,170 --> 00:07:02,403 And some portions of the east coast. 161 00:07:02,589 --> 00:07:04,330 - What's exciting is nobody really knows. 162 00:07:04,508 --> 00:07:05,682 That's cool. 163 00:07:05,843 --> 00:07:09,486 And so I think the marfa lights are really a true modern mystery 164 00:07:09,555 --> 00:07:11,504 That we don't have answers to. 165 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,015 (tense music) 166 00:07:15,543 --> 00:07:16,392 - Our verdict? 167 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,861 We're going with unexplained phenomenon. 168 00:07:19,022 --> 00:07:20,847 Like we've seen before with similar, mysterious, 169 00:07:21,024 --> 00:07:22,849 Unexplained lights around the world, 170 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:26,369 There are too many theories to settle on just one. 171 00:07:26,530 --> 00:07:28,822 But that doesn't mean we're going to stop trying. 172 00:07:29,116 --> 00:07:31,424 So the next time you're traveling through marfa texas, 173 00:07:31,535 --> 00:07:33,951 Be sure to stop on the side of the road 174 00:07:34,037 --> 00:07:36,705 And get us more footage to investigate. 175 00:07:38,792 --> 00:07:41,668 We're gonna take a step back from our ongoing inquiry 176 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,798 Into ufos and take a moment to talk about satan. 177 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:49,283 You know, many people believe he exists 178 00:07:49,428 --> 00:07:52,228 And often takes the form of a goat. 179 00:07:52,389 --> 00:07:55,790 So when we saw what the goat was up to in this next video, 180 00:07:55,976 --> 00:07:58,935 We wondered, did the devil make him do it? 181 00:08:00,022 --> 00:08:03,965 It's October 2020, in telwara, bihar, india. 182 00:08:04,109 --> 00:08:05,775 A villager is making his way into town 183 00:08:05,861 --> 00:08:07,894 When he spots something almost demonic, 184 00:08:08,071 --> 00:08:10,563 He grabs his camera and records this. 185 00:08:10,782 --> 00:08:13,483 A goat clearly walking on its hind legs. 186 00:08:14,328 --> 00:08:15,918 The creature advances down the road. 187 00:08:16,038 --> 00:08:18,087 As we push in, the goat seemingly unaware 188 00:08:18,248 --> 00:08:20,398 That it's being watched, struts for several yards 189 00:08:20,584 --> 00:08:22,667 Before dropping down on all fours. 190 00:08:24,630 --> 00:08:26,755 Take a look at this baffling display. 191 00:08:27,791 --> 00:08:28,882 - Wow, that's crazy. 192 00:08:29,176 --> 00:08:31,668 - [tony] field researcher ken gerhardt discusses the goat's 193 00:08:31,845 --> 00:08:33,177 Connection to a dark figure 194 00:08:33,263 --> 00:08:34,846 From the fringes of christianity. 195 00:08:35,933 --> 00:08:39,000 - The templars from the crusades 196 00:08:39,186 --> 00:08:42,604 Would worship this deity known as baphomet. 197 00:08:43,565 --> 00:08:44,939 Which was often portrayed 198 00:08:45,025 --> 00:08:47,383 As a half man, half goat type creature. 199 00:08:47,611 --> 00:08:50,045 That particular imagery has been adapted 200 00:08:50,197 --> 00:08:52,705 And passed down up until modern day times 201 00:08:52,824 --> 00:08:56,176 When satanists and pagan belief systems 202 00:08:56,286 --> 00:08:57,927 Will worship baphomet. 203 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,521 - [tony] early christianity co-opted pagan beliefs 204 00:09:00,707 --> 00:09:02,206 And associated them with the devil 205 00:09:02,292 --> 00:09:04,634 In order to discredit paganism at a time 206 00:09:04,636 --> 00:09:06,803 When christianity was spreading. 207 00:09:06,922 --> 00:09:09,380 To further demonize paganism and goats, 208 00:09:09,508 --> 00:09:13,293 Societies went as far as to create humanoid goat monsters. 209 00:09:13,554 --> 00:09:18,114 - Krampus, a folklore figure from alpine mythology, 210 00:09:18,308 --> 00:09:21,317 A half man, half goat-like creature that appears 211 00:09:21,478 --> 00:09:25,564 Only on christmas, sort of the antithesis of santa claus. 212 00:09:28,110 --> 00:09:28,991 - In the bible, 213 00:09:29,152 --> 00:09:31,111 The book of leviticus tells of a ritual 214 00:09:31,321 --> 00:09:33,571 In which one goat is sacrificed, 215 00:09:33,657 --> 00:09:35,723 While another is touched by a priest 216 00:09:35,909 --> 00:09:38,635 And imbued with the sins of local residents. 217 00:09:38,704 --> 00:09:40,327 It's then sent into the woods, 218 00:09:40,372 --> 00:09:42,672 Taking the town's impurities with it. 219 00:09:42,833 --> 00:09:46,342 That's where the term scapegoat comes from. 220 00:09:46,503 --> 00:09:49,312 Which explanation for this upright goat 221 00:09:49,423 --> 00:09:51,631 Is the greatest of all time? 222 00:09:51,842 --> 00:09:52,999 Let's ask our experts. 223 00:09:53,135 --> 00:09:55,343 (tense music) 224 00:09:57,472 --> 00:09:59,522 Catholic miracle historian michael o'neill discusses 225 00:09:59,683 --> 00:10:02,892 The possibility of satan possessing an animal. 226 00:10:02,978 --> 00:10:04,844 - If we were to look at the point 227 00:10:05,022 --> 00:10:07,539 Of possession in the first place, 228 00:10:07,649 --> 00:10:10,566 Satan is looking to capture souls. 229 00:10:10,568 --> 00:10:13,853 To deprive that soul from union with god. 230 00:10:14,031 --> 00:10:15,688 And so when we talk about animals 231 00:10:15,866 --> 00:10:16,981 Not having an immortal soul, 232 00:10:17,075 --> 00:10:20,393 We say satan wouldn't bother with possessing an animal 233 00:10:20,621 --> 00:10:23,947 So we can rule out animals altogether based on that. 234 00:10:23,957 --> 00:10:24,881 - [tony] so what about the thought 235 00:10:25,042 --> 00:10:28,083 That this could be the satanic entity baphomet? 236 00:10:28,170 --> 00:10:30,636 - Baphomet is a modern conception 237 00:10:30,714 --> 00:10:31,713 Of what the devil would look like, 238 00:10:32,049 --> 00:10:35,792 Perhaps a symbol that's used by satanists in modern times. 239 00:10:36,053 --> 00:10:39,012 The idea of associating baphomet, the pagan idol, 240 00:10:39,306 --> 00:10:44,225 With a goat, is a satanic convention starting the 1850s. 241 00:10:44,436 --> 00:10:46,569 We see this goat walking like a person 242 00:10:46,730 --> 00:10:48,563 And people might say, "well, there's baphomet," 243 00:10:48,857 --> 00:10:51,649 But there's absolutely no connection between the two. 244 00:10:51,735 --> 00:10:52,800 - [tony] that answers why goats 245 00:10:53,028 --> 00:10:56,196 Are associated with satanism, a rep they have not earned. 246 00:10:56,406 --> 00:10:57,814 But why is this one walking? 247 00:10:58,950 --> 00:11:01,918 Wildlife biologist dr. Stephanie schuttler has a hypothesis. 248 00:11:02,037 --> 00:11:03,595 - Goats are pretty smart animals. 249 00:11:03,747 --> 00:11:06,222 There have been instances of goats 250 00:11:06,333 --> 00:11:09,509 Learning how to open door latches 251 00:11:09,586 --> 00:11:13,279 And let themselves in and out. 252 00:11:13,281 --> 00:11:15,264 They often go on their hind legs 253 00:11:15,425 --> 00:11:19,519 To be able to reach those plants more out of reach. 254 00:11:19,638 --> 00:11:21,054 - [tony] the foraging goats engage in 255 00:11:21,264 --> 00:11:23,056 What is called browsing. 256 00:11:23,266 --> 00:11:24,257 Having evolved in mountains, 257 00:11:24,518 --> 00:11:27,877 They've adapted to finding food in hard to reach places. 258 00:11:28,105 --> 00:11:30,046 They're selective about which foods they eat 259 00:11:30,065 --> 00:11:31,931 And are able to stand on their hind legs 260 00:11:31,983 --> 00:11:35,402 And reach with their mouths to obtain a snack of choice. 261 00:11:35,612 --> 00:11:37,845 - What I think is happening here 262 00:11:38,031 --> 00:11:41,925 Is that this is a well-trained goat. 263 00:11:42,119 --> 00:11:47,129 Perhaps it was taught to go in its hind legs for tricks. 264 00:11:47,290 --> 00:11:51,200 These aren't the only quadruped animals 265 00:11:51,461 --> 00:11:55,529 That have been taught to walk on their hind legs. 266 00:11:55,716 --> 00:11:57,090 People have trained their dogs to walk on 267 00:11:57,300 --> 00:11:59,943 Their back legs, and also bears. 268 00:12:00,053 --> 00:12:02,979 I can definitively say that this is 269 00:12:03,140 --> 00:12:06,040 A well-trained goat doing a pretty cool trick. 270 00:12:06,143 --> 00:12:08,435 (tense music) 271 00:12:10,063 --> 00:12:13,214 - Our verdict, this is a well-trained goat. 272 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,900 While this behavior is out of the ordinary, 273 00:12:16,027 --> 00:12:19,612 Goats were one of the first animals to be tamed by humans. 274 00:12:19,823 --> 00:12:21,739 I guess it's no huge surprise 275 00:12:21,825 --> 00:12:24,000 That they've learned to walk like us. 276 00:12:24,119 --> 00:12:26,202 I'm just waiting for them to do my taxes. 277 00:12:28,865 --> 00:12:30,915 - Now, we head over to asia. 278 00:12:31,001 --> 00:12:32,733 According to some scholars of islam, 279 00:12:32,961 --> 00:12:35,011 There are verses in the holy quran that seem to allude 280 00:12:35,172 --> 00:12:38,164 To the possibility of extra terrestrial life. 281 00:12:38,383 --> 00:12:40,166 So perhaps it's no surprise that we're getting 282 00:12:40,427 --> 00:12:44,504 Reports of ufos from islamic countries like pakistan. 283 00:12:44,681 --> 00:12:46,005 Are they the real deal? 284 00:12:46,183 --> 00:12:47,348 Let's take a look. 285 00:12:48,351 --> 00:12:50,809 January 25th, 2022. 286 00:12:50,854 --> 00:12:52,395 Islamabad, pakistan. 287 00:12:52,564 --> 00:12:54,481 It's dusk and arslan warraich 288 00:12:54,733 --> 00:12:56,983 Is watching the sunset from the roof of his home. 289 00:12:57,235 --> 00:13:00,603 He's just about to go inside when he spots this. 290 00:13:00,822 --> 00:13:03,689 - [arslan] this is just an odd, odd thing. 291 00:13:03,867 --> 00:13:05,191 - [tony] do you see it? 292 00:13:05,452 --> 00:13:07,468 A mysterious, black object is hovering in the sky. 293 00:13:07,621 --> 00:13:09,329 - [arslan] definitely not a bird. 294 00:13:09,539 --> 00:13:10,971 - [tony] as arslan zooms in, 295 00:13:10,973 --> 00:13:12,765 It appears to resemble a flying rock 296 00:13:12,876 --> 00:13:14,617 With a huge bulge in the back. 297 00:13:14,878 --> 00:13:17,870 The craft hovers almost stationary for nearly two hours, 298 00:13:18,131 --> 00:13:21,207 About 1,500 feet in the air, at times changing shape 299 00:13:21,426 --> 00:13:23,617 Until it almost resembles a triangle. 300 00:13:23,762 --> 00:13:25,302 - I was shocked and excited actually. 301 00:13:25,388 --> 00:13:27,463 There was no light or anything. 302 00:13:27,724 --> 00:13:29,899 It wasn't emitting or reflecting any light. 303 00:13:30,018 --> 00:13:33,069 It wasn't anything that I have seen ever. 304 00:13:33,230 --> 00:13:36,906 I firmly believe that there are other civilizations 305 00:13:36,983 --> 00:13:39,125 Who are probably billions of years 306 00:13:39,194 --> 00:13:41,410 Ahead of us in evolution. 307 00:13:41,571 --> 00:13:43,646 Who's to say that they're not visiting? 308 00:13:43,657 --> 00:13:44,714 - [tony] so could it be a real ufo? 309 00:13:44,908 --> 00:13:48,167 Writer heidi hollis, who specializes in the unexplained, 310 00:13:48,328 --> 00:13:50,386 Says it may be part of a recent growing trend 311 00:13:50,497 --> 00:13:52,438 In the skies above pakistan. 312 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,739 - Just a year prior to this event, 313 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,093 Pilots on a pakistani international airlines 314 00:13:57,212 --> 00:14:00,930 Photographed a ufo during a domestic flight 315 00:14:01,091 --> 00:14:05,652 And a spokesperson for the airlines actually confirmed 316 00:14:05,762 --> 00:14:07,687 The incident on social media. 317 00:14:07,848 --> 00:14:10,606 Adding that the company didn't know what the object was 318 00:14:10,767 --> 00:14:13,393 And would continue to investigate the matter. 319 00:14:13,603 --> 00:14:15,111 - [tony] but hollis also notes 320 00:14:15,272 --> 00:14:18,247 That location may play a key role in what we're seeing. 321 00:14:18,441 --> 00:14:21,508 Arslan lives in islamabad's military residential zone, 322 00:14:21,653 --> 00:14:23,953 Called the defense housing authority, 323 00:14:24,114 --> 00:14:26,072 And there is speculation that this is very much 324 00:14:26,324 --> 00:14:28,925 An earthbound craft called a loitering munition. 325 00:14:29,077 --> 00:14:31,535 - Loitering munitions will go into an area 326 00:14:31,663 --> 00:14:36,449 And wait until it finds its target and it goes to attack. 327 00:14:36,710 --> 00:14:39,276 - [tony] loitering munitions work exactly as it sounds. 328 00:14:39,462 --> 00:14:41,120 Some can linger in the air for hours, 329 00:14:41,339 --> 00:14:43,773 Then be instantly fired and hit a target 330 00:14:43,967 --> 00:14:47,309 Faster than a rocket or mortars deployed from further away. 331 00:14:47,470 --> 00:14:49,311 Some can carry a warhead powerful enough 332 00:14:49,472 --> 00:14:52,723 To take out armored vehicles and artillery nests. 333 00:14:52,809 --> 00:14:54,467 - More and more lately, I am seeing 334 00:14:54,686 --> 00:14:57,053 And hearing about these types of craft, 335 00:14:57,055 --> 00:14:58,638 But ultimately being that 336 00:14:58,815 --> 00:15:01,507 This location is military residential, 337 00:15:01,509 --> 00:15:03,409 There's so may things that you could speculate 338 00:15:03,445 --> 00:15:04,819 About what it is. 339 00:15:06,281 --> 00:15:07,905 - Talk about a close call. 340 00:15:07,991 --> 00:15:11,241 Good thing arslan lived to tell us his story. 341 00:15:11,328 --> 00:15:12,893 These loitering munition drones 342 00:15:13,079 --> 00:15:15,488 Are unofficially known as kamikazi drones, 343 00:15:15,707 --> 00:15:18,458 As they are designed to be on a one-way mission. 344 00:15:18,668 --> 00:15:19,459 More than a dozen countries 345 00:15:19,669 --> 00:15:22,462 Have these kinds of drones in their arsenal. 346 00:15:22,672 --> 00:15:24,647 Did arslan see one of them? 347 00:15:24,758 --> 00:15:26,682 Maybe another kind of drone, 348 00:15:26,843 --> 00:15:29,819 Or did the object have otherworldly origins? 349 00:15:29,888 --> 00:15:31,929 Our experts weigh in. 350 00:15:31,932 --> 00:15:34,098 (tense music) 351 00:15:35,852 --> 00:15:37,918 We begin with forensics video analyst michael primeau 352 00:15:38,104 --> 00:15:39,695 To see if the video was even real. 353 00:15:39,856 --> 00:15:42,348 - There is some macro block compression around, 354 00:15:42,567 --> 00:15:45,151 And when it was processed it reduced a lot 355 00:15:45,403 --> 00:15:48,454 Of that detail necessary to make an identification. 356 00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:51,073 So it's heavily compressed although there's no direct 357 00:15:51,201 --> 00:15:54,435 Evidence to support that it's been changed or fabricated. 358 00:15:54,579 --> 00:15:56,045 - [tony] so if what we see is real, 359 00:15:56,164 --> 00:15:58,622 Could arslan have captured a genuine ufo? 360 00:15:58,667 --> 00:16:00,966 We ask physicist matthew szydagis. 361 00:16:01,886 --> 00:16:06,046 - Ufo sightings, if they're actually captured on film, 362 00:16:06,132 --> 00:16:09,225 Are typically brief, minutes at best. 363 00:16:09,386 --> 00:16:14,455 Here we have an object that stayed in the sky for hours 364 00:16:14,641 --> 00:16:17,867 And let itself get captured on film. 365 00:16:18,019 --> 00:16:19,568 - [tony] szydagis thinks that lack of motion 366 00:16:19,688 --> 00:16:21,628 Along with its shape are important clues. 367 00:16:21,815 --> 00:16:24,565 - It appears like it could be triangular 368 00:16:24,693 --> 00:16:28,819 And while triangle is a classic shape associated with ufos, 369 00:16:28,905 --> 00:16:31,655 It is also a classic shape of kite, 370 00:16:31,783 --> 00:16:35,484 Perhaps diamond shape, which this appears like it could be. 371 00:16:35,745 --> 00:16:38,955 - [tony] but how could a kite stay in place for so long? 372 00:16:39,249 --> 00:16:41,240 - [szydagis] kites should move along with the wind, 373 00:16:41,459 --> 00:16:43,743 But what can happen is is you can have 374 00:16:43,962 --> 00:16:46,254 Different gusts of wind from different directions 375 00:16:46,464 --> 00:16:49,431 That can almost cancel out to create 376 00:16:49,551 --> 00:16:52,434 The illusion of something being stationary. 377 00:16:52,512 --> 00:16:53,577 - [tony] so if it's a kite, 378 00:16:53,805 --> 00:16:56,689 Those minor movements could explain why a change of shape. 379 00:16:56,850 --> 00:16:59,275 But military aviation expert tim mcmillan believes 380 00:16:59,352 --> 00:17:00,084 There's a clue in the video 381 00:17:00,270 --> 00:17:02,336 That suggests another possibility. 382 00:17:02,564 --> 00:17:06,190 - You can see what appears to be some type of rotors. 383 00:17:06,234 --> 00:17:07,091 - [tony] it's hard to see, 384 00:17:07,277 --> 00:17:08,835 But mcmillan thinks this choppy movement 385 00:17:08,945 --> 00:17:11,154 Around the object could be rotating blades. 386 00:17:11,364 --> 00:17:13,097 - That leads us down the the road 387 00:17:13,283 --> 00:17:15,291 Of is this some type of drone system? 388 00:17:15,452 --> 00:17:16,717 - [tony] but is it possible this is one 389 00:17:16,828 --> 00:17:18,578 Of the dreaded kamikazi drones? 390 00:17:18,747 --> 00:17:19,853 Mcmillan isn't so sure. 391 00:17:20,081 --> 00:17:23,349 - There are several different variants of loitering munitions, 392 00:17:23,460 --> 00:17:24,942 However, these only have 393 00:17:25,128 --> 00:17:27,420 About 20 to 30 minute flight times 394 00:17:27,630 --> 00:17:29,530 And actually a little smaller 395 00:17:29,674 --> 00:17:32,049 Than this object appears to be. 396 00:17:32,093 --> 00:17:33,959 And we would have to ask who would 397 00:17:34,203 --> 00:17:35,677 Be flying a loitering munition 398 00:17:35,805 --> 00:17:38,631 Over a very populated city in pakistan. 399 00:17:38,892 --> 00:17:40,633 - [tony] instead, it's the extended flight time 400 00:17:40,852 --> 00:17:43,761 That leads mcmillan to the most likely scenario. 401 00:17:43,813 --> 00:17:46,122 - I am inclined to believe that this 402 00:17:46,274 --> 00:17:49,733 Is some type of rotary wing drone aircraft. 403 00:17:49,819 --> 00:17:51,560 It's purpose, if I had to speculate, 404 00:17:51,821 --> 00:17:53,887 Intelligence reconnaissance type activities 405 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:55,072 In an urban environment. 406 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,499 - [tony] so is this all about information gathering? 407 00:17:57,619 --> 00:17:59,335 Surveillance drones above a neighborhood 408 00:17:59,496 --> 00:18:02,471 That could also be considered a sensitive military location, 409 00:18:02,582 --> 00:18:04,156 Like the defense housing authority? 410 00:18:04,375 --> 00:18:06,158 - There's lots of different things from 411 00:18:06,336 --> 00:18:08,010 The local pakistani government 412 00:18:08,088 --> 00:18:10,646 In terms of anti terror operations. 413 00:18:10,715 --> 00:18:12,131 Could be signals intelligence. 414 00:18:12,342 --> 00:18:14,591 It's gathering phone messages, 415 00:18:14,677 --> 00:18:17,503 It's gathering electronic data such as cell phone data, 416 00:18:17,746 --> 00:18:18,720 That type of thing. 417 00:18:18,848 --> 00:18:21,490 Or if it's just an optical surveillance system. 418 00:18:21,643 --> 00:18:24,101 So it's following and monitoring somebody 419 00:18:24,187 --> 00:18:25,694 That's maybe a person of interest. 420 00:18:25,855 --> 00:18:27,522 I think the area in which they're being filmed, 421 00:18:27,690 --> 00:18:28,981 That's a possibility. 422 00:18:29,984 --> 00:18:32,318 (tense music) 423 00:18:34,239 --> 00:18:35,371 - Our verdict? 424 00:18:35,532 --> 00:18:38,707 Well, primeau said it could be a fake but he's not sure. 425 00:18:38,868 --> 00:18:42,452 If it's real, we're going to go with a surveillance drone. 426 00:18:42,497 --> 00:18:44,454 Mcmillan's remark on the extremely 427 00:18:44,499 --> 00:18:46,882 Long flight time was the clincher, 428 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,184 But one thing's for sure. 429 00:18:48,294 --> 00:18:50,110 Loitering munition drones appear to 430 00:18:50,296 --> 00:18:52,755 Be a crucial tool in the future of warfare. 431 00:18:55,385 --> 00:18:57,309 - The last thing you'd expect when you're hiking 432 00:18:57,512 --> 00:18:59,545 Through the woods is to stumble upon a legendary flying ship. 433 00:18:59,806 --> 00:19:01,397 But maybe that's only because you haven't done 434 00:19:01,516 --> 00:19:04,458 Enough hiking around ancient asian ruins. 435 00:19:04,561 --> 00:19:05,768 I sure haven't. 436 00:19:06,688 --> 00:19:08,979 It's November 2017, near the village 437 00:19:09,065 --> 00:19:11,415 Of asuka, southeast of osaka, japan. 438 00:19:11,568 --> 00:19:13,826 Travel blogger doug merrit is filming his trek 439 00:19:13,903 --> 00:19:14,910 Through the surrounding hills 440 00:19:15,071 --> 00:19:17,897 And forest when he arrives at his destination. 441 00:19:17,907 --> 00:19:20,149 - [doug] I think I see it right in front of me. 442 00:19:20,368 --> 00:19:24,420 Wow, it's actually bigger than I expected. 443 00:19:24,539 --> 00:19:26,330 - [tony] his video shows a gigantic stone 444 00:19:26,457 --> 00:19:29,925 Structure rising above the dense forest floor on a hillside. 445 00:19:30,086 --> 00:19:31,501 There's an indentation down the middle 446 00:19:31,588 --> 00:19:34,213 With two rectangular holes on either end. 447 00:19:34,424 --> 00:19:35,489 Made of solid granite, 448 00:19:35,717 --> 00:19:39,218 The carved mound is 36 by 26 feet and stands 15 feet high. 449 00:19:40,930 --> 00:19:42,521 - The stone seemed to be out of place 450 00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:43,839 There at the top of the hill. 451 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:45,774 It was just sitting there appearing to have 452 00:19:45,894 --> 00:19:48,594 Just fallen from the sky out of nowhere. 453 00:19:48,605 --> 00:19:50,062 - [tony] mars researcher george haas 454 00:19:50,273 --> 00:19:52,130 Says this 800 ton carved boulder 455 00:19:52,275 --> 00:19:54,901 Is known as masuda-no-iwafune. 456 00:19:55,111 --> 00:19:57,627 Which means the rock ship of masuda. 457 00:19:57,629 --> 00:19:59,797 Some believe it's tied to a japanese legend 458 00:19:59,949 --> 00:20:02,441 Put into writing in the early 1800s. 459 00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:06,345 - A group of fishermen noticed an unusual spacecraft 460 00:20:06,456 --> 00:20:08,397 Landing in the distance in the water. 461 00:20:08,541 --> 00:20:10,199 The ship came to shore, 462 00:20:10,460 --> 00:20:13,419 A door opened and they could see a lovely woman 463 00:20:13,630 --> 00:20:15,254 Coming out of the spacecraft 464 00:20:15,465 --> 00:20:16,255 And she started speaking to them 465 00:20:16,507 --> 00:20:18,290 In a language they had never heard before. 466 00:20:18,468 --> 00:20:19,442 And as soon as she got there, 467 00:20:19,594 --> 00:20:23,029 She got back into the craft and flew away. 468 00:20:23,139 --> 00:20:24,880 Never to be heard of again. 469 00:20:25,141 --> 00:20:26,465 - [tony] so is the rock ship of masuda 470 00:20:26,643 --> 00:20:28,750 A carving to commemorate this encounter? 471 00:20:28,978 --> 00:20:31,912 Some believe it looks like the hollow ship drawings, 472 00:20:32,106 --> 00:20:35,624 But most think it's a lot older dating to japan's old mound 473 00:20:35,735 --> 00:20:38,343 Period between two 50 and 500 ad. 474 00:20:39,364 --> 00:20:42,239 During that time, in the same area as the rock ship, 475 00:20:42,325 --> 00:20:43,783 The ancient japanese built several 476 00:20:43,993 --> 00:20:46,910 Giant keyhole shaped formations. 477 00:20:46,996 --> 00:20:48,387 And here's where it gets weird. 478 00:20:48,498 --> 00:20:50,089 George haas says similar formations 479 00:20:50,166 --> 00:20:52,290 Are found in one other place. 480 00:20:52,293 --> 00:20:53,376 Mars. 481 00:20:54,337 --> 00:20:55,911 Look at them side by side. 482 00:20:56,130 --> 00:20:57,738 The photo on the right was taken by nasa. 483 00:20:58,007 --> 00:21:01,450 - [haas] this structure on mars is completely symmetrical, 484 00:21:01,511 --> 00:21:04,262 Is a keyhole formation with a circular mound at the top 485 00:21:04,514 --> 00:21:06,471 And a triangle form at the bottom. 486 00:21:06,557 --> 00:21:07,439 - [tony] is there a connection between 487 00:21:07,558 --> 00:21:09,758 This part of japan and the red planet? 488 00:21:10,019 --> 00:21:12,812 Something that had cosmic visitors interested in both? 489 00:21:14,941 --> 00:21:16,590 The valley of oscar, where the rock ship 490 00:21:16,776 --> 00:21:18,534 And these tombs are found, is considered 491 00:21:18,695 --> 00:21:20,820 The birthplace of japanese civilization. 492 00:21:21,030 --> 00:21:22,371 Many cultural transformations, 493 00:21:22,532 --> 00:21:24,523 Including the introduction of buddhism, 494 00:21:24,701 --> 00:21:27,042 Began there around 500 ad. 495 00:21:27,203 --> 00:21:29,695 But little is known about the era before that. 496 00:21:29,872 --> 00:21:32,122 So what can our experts dig up? 497 00:21:32,125 --> 00:21:34,292 (tense music) 498 00:21:36,045 --> 00:21:38,137 Archeologist dr. Ed barnhart considers 499 00:21:38,214 --> 00:21:39,688 If the rock ship of masuda could have 500 00:21:39,841 --> 00:21:42,341 Anything to do with the legend of the hollow ship. 501 00:21:42,593 --> 00:21:45,428 - There's a whole myth around this magical woman. 502 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:51,017 It was actually documented in three historic texts 503 00:21:51,227 --> 00:21:53,244 That talked about the same story. 504 00:21:53,396 --> 00:21:54,412 - [tony] still, barnhart agrees 505 00:21:54,564 --> 00:21:57,130 The formation is much older than the rock ship legend 506 00:21:57,233 --> 00:21:58,240 Of the early 1800s. 507 00:21:58,401 --> 00:22:00,884 He joins other experts who place its creation 508 00:22:01,070 --> 00:22:02,494 To that period of ancient japan 509 00:22:02,572 --> 00:22:04,530 When the keyhole formations were built. 510 00:22:06,242 --> 00:22:08,934 Barnhart adds that those strange keyholes on mars 511 00:22:08,995 --> 00:22:11,003 Are most certainly the result of natural forces 512 00:22:11,164 --> 00:22:14,807 Like erosion while the japanese keyholes are man-made tombs. 513 00:22:14,917 --> 00:22:17,335 - This is a very religiously steeped area 514 00:22:17,587 --> 00:22:20,821 And at a time period called the tumulus period, 515 00:22:21,007 --> 00:22:24,083 There were a number of stone built 516 00:22:24,260 --> 00:22:26,418 And carved tombs in the area. 517 00:22:26,596 --> 00:22:30,180 So this may fall into that tradition. 518 00:22:30,266 --> 00:22:31,974 - [tony] okay, then since the rock ship 519 00:22:32,268 --> 00:22:35,411 Of masuda was found near these tumulus-era burial mounds, 520 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,837 Could it also be a tomb? 521 00:22:37,023 --> 00:22:39,915 Anthropologist kathy strain investigates. 522 00:22:40,026 --> 00:22:41,858 - What we do know is that this area 523 00:22:41,944 --> 00:22:45,028 Was used a lot during the great burial period 524 00:22:45,114 --> 00:22:47,631 And so it's quite possible that this 525 00:22:47,784 --> 00:22:50,559 Was the start of a burial and it ended up 526 00:22:50,787 --> 00:22:54,704 Getting abandoned because it got a crack in it. 527 00:22:54,791 --> 00:22:57,199 So then it's not perfect anymore. 528 00:22:57,460 --> 00:23:00,043 - [tony] but barnhart has another idea. 529 00:23:00,088 --> 00:23:01,637 It relates to the ancient practice 530 00:23:01,798 --> 00:23:04,540 Of fermenting rice to make the brewed alcohol, sake. 531 00:23:05,301 --> 00:23:07,426 - There's another stone in the area 532 00:23:07,637 --> 00:23:09,211 Called the sake boat stone, 533 00:23:09,472 --> 00:23:13,157 That has a variety of circular holes and canals 534 00:23:13,309 --> 00:23:15,601 That functionally could be used 535 00:23:15,812 --> 00:23:17,603 In the process of sake making. 536 00:23:17,847 --> 00:23:19,238 Skimming the top of one, 537 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,865 Making it more pure in the other ones 538 00:23:21,867 --> 00:23:25,236 As the canal feeds the the process through. 539 00:23:25,446 --> 00:23:27,529 This one is very different though, 540 00:23:27,657 --> 00:23:30,165 The holes are deep, there's only two of them, 541 00:23:30,326 --> 00:23:32,484 They don't actually align up very well 542 00:23:32,662 --> 00:23:34,744 To let one skim the other. 543 00:23:34,831 --> 00:23:35,787 - [tony] it's an interesting theory, 544 00:23:35,873 --> 00:23:37,105 But at this point that's all it is. 545 00:23:37,333 --> 00:23:40,175 There's no evidence for the tomb or the sake theory 546 00:23:40,336 --> 00:23:43,178 Either in the written or archeological records. 547 00:23:43,339 --> 00:23:46,590 All we have is the stone and our best guesses. 548 00:23:46,592 --> 00:23:48,801 (tense music) 549 00:23:50,513 --> 00:23:52,304 Our verdict, it is still unknown 550 00:23:52,515 --> 00:23:55,023 Exactly who carved this mound and why. 551 00:23:55,143 --> 00:23:57,250 The legend of the hollow ship ufo 552 00:23:57,353 --> 00:23:59,586 Also remains a nazo. 553 00:23:59,689 --> 00:24:01,697 That's japanese for mystery, 554 00:24:01,858 --> 00:24:04,199 But there are enough independent accounts of it 555 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:06,335 That we're not ruling out a close encounter 556 00:24:06,404 --> 00:24:07,695 Of the japanese kind. 557 00:24:10,408 --> 00:24:12,174 - The sunshine coast of australia 558 00:24:12,243 --> 00:24:13,875 Is known for its seaside resorts 559 00:24:13,995 --> 00:24:15,285 And who doesn't love a walk on the beach? 560 00:24:15,371 --> 00:24:16,679 But as you'll see in our next video, 561 00:24:16,873 --> 00:24:20,291 One beach goer discovered more than shells in the sand. 562 00:24:21,377 --> 00:24:23,669 It's March 21st, 2022, 563 00:24:23,963 --> 00:24:27,739 Maroochydore beach 60 miles outside of brisbane, australia. 564 00:24:27,758 --> 00:24:29,558 Alex tan is strolling along the coast 565 00:24:29,677 --> 00:24:31,826 When he stumbles across something unusual. 566 00:24:32,013 --> 00:24:34,196 He takes out his camera and records this. 567 00:24:34,307 --> 00:24:36,431 - I honestly don't know what it is. 568 00:24:36,517 --> 00:24:37,666 - [tony] an odd looking creature, 569 00:24:37,727 --> 00:24:40,485 Which appears to be deceased, lying in the sand. 570 00:24:40,521 --> 00:24:41,620 Let's take a closer look. 571 00:24:41,772 --> 00:24:43,772 Make sure doesn't look like it came from the sea. 572 00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:45,907 More like something out of an hg wells novel 573 00:24:46,068 --> 00:24:49,010 With its dog like body and rodent like head. 574 00:24:49,197 --> 00:24:50,904 - So I'm trying to figure out what it was 575 00:24:51,032 --> 00:24:53,598 And had the color of, you know, like a chicken nugget. 576 00:24:53,784 --> 00:24:56,176 It was just weird. It really just threw me off. 577 00:24:56,329 --> 00:24:59,580 I was just so fascinated at what I'd found. 578 00:24:59,832 --> 00:25:01,323 - [tony] author and journalist erin mccarthy 579 00:25:01,542 --> 00:25:03,058 Says that when the video first went viral, 580 00:25:03,211 --> 00:25:05,377 Thousands of social media users suggested 581 00:25:05,546 --> 00:25:07,095 This could be a bunyip. 582 00:25:07,215 --> 00:25:10,232 Sure it could, but what's a bunyip? 583 00:25:10,434 --> 00:25:11,175 - A bunyip, which is actually 584 00:25:11,427 --> 00:25:14,010 A creature from indigenous australian folklore 585 00:25:14,096 --> 00:25:17,223 That, it's said, loves to eat people, 586 00:25:17,466 --> 00:25:19,775 Specifically women and children. 587 00:25:19,894 --> 00:25:22,519 It's a creature that lives in waterholes, 588 00:25:22,563 --> 00:25:24,754 Lakes and rivers around australia. 589 00:25:24,899 --> 00:25:27,233 It's been said to look like a seal 590 00:25:27,476 --> 00:25:29,518 Or sometimes a swimming dog. 591 00:25:29,779 --> 00:25:32,020 The word bunyip actually first appeared in print 592 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,199 In the 1840s when some discovered fossils 593 00:25:35,451 --> 00:25:37,943 That were theorized to be a bunyip. 594 00:25:38,204 --> 00:25:40,596 There was actually what was said to be a bunyip skull 595 00:25:40,748 --> 00:25:43,373 Displayed in the australian museum in sydney 596 00:25:43,459 --> 00:25:45,751 For a couple of days in the 1840s. 597 00:25:46,003 --> 00:25:47,703 - [tony] mccarthy also wonders if this creature's 598 00:25:47,922 --> 00:25:48,954 Odd appearance could be explained 599 00:25:49,173 --> 00:25:52,215 By some sort of mutation caused by nuclear testing. 600 00:25:52,301 --> 00:25:53,675 - Some have actually speculated 601 00:25:53,761 --> 00:25:57,162 That this creature is a mutated wallaby. 602 00:25:57,390 --> 00:25:59,898 Between the early 1950s and the early 1960s, 603 00:26:00,017 --> 00:26:02,101 The british government performed nuclear tests 604 00:26:02,311 --> 00:26:04,520 At three sites across australia. 605 00:26:04,814 --> 00:26:08,006 Emu island, marilinga and the montebello islands. 606 00:26:08,025 --> 00:26:10,925 There were 12 major tests performed at these sites 607 00:26:11,153 --> 00:26:12,994 And some of the weapons that were detonated 608 00:26:13,155 --> 00:26:17,165 Were actually as big as the bombs used during hiroshima. 609 00:26:17,285 --> 00:26:19,301 Those particles have caused a lot of problems 610 00:26:19,453 --> 00:26:22,070 For the wildlife that live in those areas. 611 00:26:22,248 --> 00:26:22,988 - [tony] one other thought. 612 00:26:23,165 --> 00:26:25,757 There's also a biosecurity sciences lab 613 00:26:25,835 --> 00:26:27,659 Located in nearby brisbane. 614 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,828 Could this thing have been the subject of some secret 615 00:26:30,089 --> 00:26:32,631 Medical experiment and somehow gotten loose? 616 00:26:35,011 --> 00:26:38,261 This show is no stranger to odd beach carcasses. 617 00:26:38,347 --> 00:26:40,021 One of our first segments focused 618 00:26:40,182 --> 00:26:42,975 On this strange creature found in south carolina. 619 00:26:43,227 --> 00:26:46,645 Some said it had escaped from a nearby off-limits island 620 00:26:46,897 --> 00:26:50,031 Where thousands of monkeys are bred for research. 621 00:26:50,192 --> 00:26:52,425 Could something similar have happened here? 622 00:26:52,612 --> 00:26:55,261 Or perhaps this is the legendary bunyip, 623 00:26:55,489 --> 00:26:59,691 Or some new undiscovered species from australia's vast outback. 624 00:26:59,910 --> 00:27:03,287 Let's let our experts see what's up, down under. 625 00:27:03,456 --> 00:27:05,581 (tense music) 626 00:27:07,293 --> 00:27:09,451 We begin with forensic video analyst michael primeau 627 00:27:09,670 --> 00:27:11,953 To see if this video could have been altered. 628 00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:13,113 - We were able to confirm 629 00:27:13,341 --> 00:27:17,476 That these four recordings came from an apple iphone. 630 00:27:17,595 --> 00:27:20,212 There were no programs that interacted with these files 631 00:27:20,473 --> 00:27:23,098 And changed the evidence in any way digitally. 632 00:27:23,351 --> 00:27:24,816 - [tony] if the video hasn't been altered, 633 00:27:24,894 --> 00:27:25,975 What could we be seeing here? 634 00:27:26,062 --> 00:27:28,387 We turn to marine biologist dr. Shea conger 635 00:27:28,606 --> 00:27:31,315 To test the popular online theory that this is a bunyip. 636 00:27:31,567 --> 00:27:33,825 - It looks like a mammal to me, 637 00:27:33,986 --> 00:27:36,495 But there's not a lot of definable features. 638 00:27:36,656 --> 00:27:40,199 The bunyip is said to be kind of a aquatic animal 639 00:27:40,401 --> 00:27:41,884 And what I see here looks 640 00:27:42,036 --> 00:27:44,636 To be a really typical quadrupedal animal. 641 00:27:44,747 --> 00:27:46,738 So I think because of this fact, 642 00:27:46,957 --> 00:27:50,742 It's very unlikely to say that this is a bunyip. 643 00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:53,261 - [tony] but if it's not a bunyip, what could it be? 644 00:27:53,422 --> 00:27:55,330 Wildlife biologist stephanie schuttler 645 00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:56,465 Takes a look to see if this could 646 00:27:56,717 --> 00:27:59,100 Be the result of radioactive experiments in the area. 647 00:27:59,261 --> 00:28:02,237 - Radiation can damage dna cells and any time 648 00:28:02,390 --> 00:28:05,941 There is damage to dna during replication process, 649 00:28:06,102 --> 00:28:09,502 This creates mutations usually from radiation. 650 00:28:09,647 --> 00:28:12,188 The dna makes mistakes in replication 651 00:28:12,316 --> 00:28:16,609 And just keeps replicating cells, and they're tumor cells. 652 00:28:16,654 --> 00:28:18,070 - [tony] damage caused by radiation 653 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,588 Like in the chernobyl disaster 654 00:28:19,740 --> 00:28:21,873 Usually leads to side effects like cancer 655 00:28:21,992 --> 00:28:24,993 Or radiation sickness, which can cause hair loss. 656 00:28:25,162 --> 00:28:26,094 But schuttler has another theory 657 00:28:26,247 --> 00:28:28,447 That explains why this creature is hairless. 658 00:28:28,666 --> 00:28:31,633 - You can tell the tide is going down, 659 00:28:31,794 --> 00:28:34,002 So it's very likely that this creature 660 00:28:34,130 --> 00:28:37,389 Has been in the water for a long time in the ocean 661 00:28:37,550 --> 00:28:40,959 And when they're exposed to the the ocean water 662 00:28:41,137 --> 00:28:42,151 And the sun's rays, 663 00:28:42,153 --> 00:28:44,346 It can cause the fur to come off as part 664 00:28:44,548 --> 00:28:46,448 Of the decomposition process. 665 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,182 - [tony] so what about the wallaby theory? 666 00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:50,452 A creature known to be widespread down under. 667 00:28:50,604 --> 00:28:52,955 - Wallabies are are similar to kangaroos, 668 00:28:53,107 --> 00:28:55,807 But I don't see evidence that it's a wallaby. 669 00:28:55,985 --> 00:28:57,525 If it were a wallaby, 670 00:28:57,611 --> 00:29:01,329 You would have more powerful hind legs. 671 00:29:01,490 --> 00:29:05,901 They would be longer in comparison to the the forearms 672 00:29:06,162 --> 00:29:09,421 And in this case they seem to be pretty equal. 673 00:29:09,582 --> 00:29:12,565 It looks more like an animal that walks on all fours 674 00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:15,494 Rather than hops like a wallaby would. 675 00:29:16,338 --> 00:29:17,629 - [tony] so if it's not a wallaby, 676 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,180 What are we looking at here? 677 00:29:19,341 --> 00:29:22,150 - Australia has lots of possum species. 678 00:29:22,261 --> 00:29:24,019 I think it's the brushtail possum. 679 00:29:24,054 --> 00:29:27,856 The limbs are similar in length. 680 00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:30,191 Possums have naked tails. 681 00:29:30,352 --> 00:29:32,686 They don't really have any fur in their tails. 682 00:29:32,855 --> 00:29:35,105 (tense music) 683 00:29:36,817 --> 00:29:38,133 - Our verdict? 684 00:29:38,194 --> 00:29:41,353 This is a brush tailed possum in the stages of decomposition. 685 00:29:41,614 --> 00:29:44,430 It's missing its hair because it's been in the ocean 686 00:29:44,617 --> 00:29:46,599 And the head looks strange because predators 687 00:29:46,786 --> 00:29:49,194 Will often chew the skin off of possum's head 688 00:29:49,371 --> 00:29:51,330 And leave the skull. 689 00:29:51,624 --> 00:29:55,367 But if any bunyips ever wash up on the shores of your beach, 690 00:29:55,544 --> 00:29:56,251 Let us know.