1 00:00:08,008 --> 00:00:09,527 -In the glamorous world of fashion, 2 00:00:09,551 --> 00:00:11,196 supermodels in the '90s seemed to have it all. 3 00:00:11,220 --> 00:00:13,448 -The more that I saw them in the magazines, 4 00:00:13,472 --> 00:00:17,702 the more I felt the powerful pull of wanting to be like them. 5 00:00:17,726 --> 00:00:20,705 -But young girls, lured by the glitz and glamour, 6 00:00:20,729 --> 00:00:22,373 discover a seedy underbelly. 7 00:00:22,397 --> 00:00:25,877 -I blacked out; I don't remember anything after that. 8 00:00:25,901 --> 00:00:29,172 -I definitely remember hearing whispers of things 9 00:00:29,196 --> 00:00:30,882 that were not cool. 10 00:00:30,906 --> 00:00:33,885 -Where powerful predators hunt with impunity. 11 00:00:33,909 --> 00:00:35,845 -You are being watched all the time. 12 00:00:35,869 --> 00:00:38,514 -He was the hot shot of the modeling world, you know, 13 00:00:38,538 --> 00:00:39,933 and I was a nobody. 14 00:00:39,957 --> 00:00:42,018 - What happens if you say no? - You don't work. 15 00:00:42,042 --> 00:00:44,187 -People only knew the tip of the iceberg. 16 00:00:44,211 --> 00:00:47,982 -It's kind of like the wolves running the chicken house. 17 00:00:48,006 --> 00:00:54,322 {\an8}♪♪ 18 00:00:54,346 --> 00:01:00,662 {\an8}♪♪ 19 00:01:00,686 --> 00:01:06,960 {\an8}♪♪ 20 00:01:06,984 --> 00:01:13,299 {\an8}♪♪ 21 00:01:13,323 --> 00:01:17,679 {\an8}-For decades, models have influenced fashion and culture, 22 00:01:17,703 --> 00:01:20,515 but in the '90s, they become so celebrated 23 00:01:20,539 --> 00:01:24,626 that their names are bigger than the designers they work for. 24 00:01:28,380 --> 00:01:30,608 In January of 1990, 25 00:01:30,632 --> 00:01:33,111 Vogue magazine puts Naomi Campbell, 26 00:01:33,135 --> 00:01:35,947 Christy Turlington, Linda Evangelista, 27 00:01:35,971 --> 00:01:38,283 Cindy Crawford and Tatjana Patitz 28 00:01:38,307 --> 00:01:39,742 Petites on the cover, 29 00:01:39,766 --> 00:01:42,912 inspiring George Michael to cast them in his 30 00:01:42,936 --> 00:01:45,522 chart-topping music video "Freedom." 31 00:01:48,567 --> 00:01:51,796 -And it's exactly at that moment 32 00:01:51,820 --> 00:01:58,303 that the '90s supermodel phenomenon is born. 33 00:01:58,327 --> 00:02:01,306 Fashion shows went from being little events, 34 00:02:01,330 --> 00:02:04,017 with, you know, two editors from Vogue, 35 00:02:04,041 --> 00:02:06,477 two editors from Harper's Bazaar, 36 00:02:06,501 --> 00:02:09,147 maybe there was one television camera. 37 00:02:09,171 --> 00:02:13,276 Suddenly there were a hundred TV cameras 38 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:16,112 in what were still little tiny rooms. 39 00:02:16,136 --> 00:02:17,780 You know, you... you sat there, 40 00:02:17,804 --> 00:02:19,824 from my privileged front row perch, 41 00:02:19,848 --> 00:02:23,161 going, "What the... is going on?!" 42 00:02:23,185 --> 00:02:25,163 {\an8}My name is Michael Gross and I'm a journalist 43 00:02:25,187 --> 00:02:28,333 {\an8}and an author of books about rich people, 44 00:02:28,357 --> 00:02:31,002 {\an8}real estate and fashion. 45 00:02:31,026 --> 00:02:34,922 A supermodel is a model whose name is known by people 46 00:02:34,946 --> 00:02:37,008 who are not in the fashion world... 47 00:02:37,032 --> 00:02:41,220 That if a jock drinking beer at the University of Indiana 48 00:02:41,244 --> 00:02:44,349 has a poster of that girl on his wall, 49 00:02:44,373 --> 00:02:45,850 she's a supermodel 50 00:02:45,874 --> 00:02:49,187 because he doesn't know what a dolman sleeve is. 51 00:02:49,211 --> 00:02:53,757 He, you know, he just knows, "Oh, look, that's a hot girl." 52 00:02:56,885 --> 00:02:58,613 -I had the pleasure of working 53 00:02:58,637 --> 00:03:01,157 with almost all of the '90s supermodels, 54 00:03:01,181 --> 00:03:03,326 so I lived with Christy Turlington 55 00:03:03,350 --> 00:03:05,620 and worked with Cindy and Naomi, 56 00:03:05,644 --> 00:03:07,372 and I worked with all of those women. 57 00:03:07,396 --> 00:03:09,540 They were coworkers. 58 00:03:09,564 --> 00:03:13,044 {\an8}My name is Monika Schnarre and I am a model from the '90s 59 00:03:13,068 --> 00:03:16,238 {\an8}as well as an actor and entrepreneur. 60 00:03:19,950 --> 00:03:25,056 I look on that time fondly. 61 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,726 -It was an awesome time to be in the modeling business. 62 00:03:28,750 --> 00:03:30,395 {\an8}My name is Marie P. Anderson 63 00:03:30,419 --> 00:03:35,525 {\an8}and I was a former agent inside of Elite Chicago. 64 00:03:35,549 --> 00:03:39,070 We were making money, I was scouting amazing models, 65 00:03:39,094 --> 00:03:41,864 we were managing their careers worldwide. 66 00:03:41,888 --> 00:03:44,700 -All of the top models, they kind of defined 67 00:03:44,724 --> 00:03:49,122 this glamorous, successful world of not just being a model, 68 00:03:49,146 --> 00:03:52,166 but like a supermodel, like a superhero. 69 00:03:52,190 --> 00:03:54,836 The supermodels or the top models would be the ones 70 00:03:54,860 --> 00:03:57,046 that would be in a more powerful position 71 00:03:57,070 --> 00:04:01,634 to demand better treatment, lower commissions, better jobs. 72 00:04:01,658 --> 00:04:03,428 But they're so rare, right? 73 00:04:03,452 --> 00:04:06,973 Like, that's not the typical experience of most models. 74 00:04:06,997 --> 00:04:08,558 {\an8}I'm Ashley Mears. 75 00:04:08,582 --> 00:04:11,644 {\an8}I am a sociology professor at Boston University. 76 00:04:11,668 --> 00:04:13,646 {\an8}I used to be a model as well 77 00:04:13,670 --> 00:04:16,357 {\an8}with Elite. 78 00:04:16,381 --> 00:04:18,484 -Aspiring models begin lining up, 79 00:04:18,508 --> 00:04:22,738 hoping to mirror the success of the newly crowned supermodels, 80 00:04:22,762 --> 00:04:26,117 but the '90 stars of the runway obscures some dark realities 81 00:04:26,141 --> 00:04:30,955 about modeling exposed just years before. 82 00:04:30,979 --> 00:04:33,749 -How many teenage models who start out have you slept with? 83 00:04:33,773 --> 00:04:37,003 -Uh... What you mean by teenage? 84 00:04:37,027 --> 00:04:40,715 -In 1988, "60 Minutes" accuses some top agents 85 00:04:40,739 --> 00:04:42,842 of sleeping with their young models, 86 00:04:42,866 --> 00:04:45,970 but the agents shift the blame back onto the girls. 87 00:04:45,994 --> 00:04:48,556 -When French girls start to play with her body, 88 00:04:48,580 --> 00:04:50,349 she knows that she can have problem, 89 00:04:50,373 --> 00:04:53,060 she can have, start to have problem with men. 90 00:04:53,084 --> 00:04:55,104 -In this hand, they have your career, 91 00:04:55,128 --> 00:04:57,106 and in his hand they have what they want, 92 00:04:57,130 --> 00:04:59,692 and your career can go up if they get what they want. 93 00:04:59,716 --> 00:05:02,153 If they don't get it, your career goes down. 94 00:05:02,177 --> 00:05:05,907 -But with a handful of models now reaching superstar status, 95 00:05:05,931 --> 00:05:09,744 agents become even more powerful. 96 00:05:09,768 --> 00:05:14,207 In the early '90s, two agencies rule the modeling world: 97 00:05:14,231 --> 00:05:16,626 Elite model management in Paris, 98 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:19,545 started by John Casablancas in 1972; 99 00:05:19,569 --> 00:05:21,672 and Ford Models in New York, 100 00:05:21,696 --> 00:05:25,218 founded by Eileen Ford and her husband in 1946. 101 00:05:25,242 --> 00:05:28,930 The two agencies approach the business very differently. 102 00:05:28,954 --> 00:05:32,225 -Eileen Ford was considered more conservative, 103 00:05:32,249 --> 00:05:35,603 more traditional, a little more tame. 104 00:05:35,627 --> 00:05:37,772 She wasn't the party animal. 105 00:05:37,796 --> 00:05:41,275 And here comes this literal Casanova, 106 00:05:41,299 --> 00:05:43,027 John Casablancas... 107 00:05:43,051 --> 00:05:47,031 Handsome, young, well dressed, 108 00:05:47,055 --> 00:05:50,117 coming in with money, creating a splash. 109 00:05:50,141 --> 00:05:53,412 -If you thought about what a Ford model was, 110 00:05:53,436 --> 00:05:56,290 {\an8}it was a demure blonde who didn't speak, 111 00:05:56,314 --> 00:05:58,376 {\an8}wearing a twin set and pearls. 112 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,835 You get to John Casablancas 113 00:05:59,859 --> 00:06:01,879 and it's Patti Hansen on all fours 114 00:06:01,903 --> 00:06:03,589 in a pair of Calvin Klein jeans 115 00:06:03,613 --> 00:06:05,174 with her butt up in the air. 116 00:06:05,198 --> 00:06:08,678 John also understood that these girls were stars. 117 00:06:08,702 --> 00:06:09,971 -On the cover of People magazine. 118 00:06:09,995 --> 00:06:11,681 Look at this right here, the sexiest... 119 00:06:11,705 --> 00:06:13,808 The sexiest couple alive. 120 00:06:13,832 --> 00:06:16,644 -Supermodel Naomi Campbell stars with Michael Jackson 121 00:06:16,668 --> 00:06:17,979 in his latest video. 122 00:06:18,003 --> 00:06:19,772 -John Casablancas brought 123 00:06:19,796 --> 00:06:23,568 the entertainment business into the modeling business. 124 00:06:23,592 --> 00:06:27,613 -With an ocean between Ford in America and Elite in Europe, 125 00:06:27,637 --> 00:06:29,448 the companies dominate their regions, 126 00:06:29,472 --> 00:06:32,451 managing the most successful models in the world. 127 00:06:32,475 --> 00:06:34,495 -Both Eileen Ford and her husband, Jerry, 128 00:06:34,519 --> 00:06:36,956 have been successfully convincing advertisers 129 00:06:36,980 --> 00:06:39,584 to the tune of $30 million a year 130 00:06:39,608 --> 00:06:43,713 that Ford model is the perfect person to sell their products. 131 00:06:43,737 --> 00:06:48,384 -Then Casablancas in Paris decides to invade America. 132 00:06:48,408 --> 00:06:51,596 -John Casablancas was ambitious, 133 00:06:51,620 --> 00:06:54,807 and he lied to Eileen Ford, 134 00:06:54,831 --> 00:06:57,560 told her he wasn't going to open in New York, 135 00:06:57,584 --> 00:07:00,021 and then he not only opened in New York, 136 00:07:00,045 --> 00:07:04,049 but he stole staff and models from Eileen Ford. 137 00:07:05,592 --> 00:07:08,529 -Competition grows between the two agencies, 138 00:07:08,553 --> 00:07:11,574 each fighting to sign the next "it girl." 139 00:07:11,598 --> 00:07:15,328 -Looking for new models is happening every year. 140 00:07:15,352 --> 00:07:19,540 It's incredible, the fantastic new team of girls that's coming. 141 00:07:19,564 --> 00:07:21,542 -In his battle to transform Elite 142 00:07:21,566 --> 00:07:24,378 into a dominating worldwide agency, 143 00:07:24,402 --> 00:07:27,298 John Casablancas is joined by Gerald Marie, 144 00:07:27,322 --> 00:07:29,884 the president of Elite in Paris. 145 00:07:29,908 --> 00:07:32,011 -Gerald Marie was like, you know, 146 00:07:32,035 --> 00:07:36,265 the... the really important shortstop on the team 147 00:07:36,289 --> 00:07:39,143 that nobody talked about, who figures he can make a buck 148 00:07:39,167 --> 00:07:41,771 and also date lots of fashion models. 149 00:07:41,795 --> 00:07:43,064 -Which he does. 150 00:07:43,088 --> 00:07:45,358 He even marries Linda Evangelista, 151 00:07:45,382 --> 00:07:48,569 one of the most successful models in the world. 152 00:07:48,593 --> 00:07:51,697 -Elite model management during the '90s 153 00:07:51,721 --> 00:07:56,994 was seriously one of the most powerful brands in the world. 154 00:07:57,018 --> 00:08:00,790 John Casablancas, Gerald Marie... 155 00:08:00,814 --> 00:08:04,543 They yielded probably the most powerful positions 156 00:08:04,567 --> 00:08:08,798 that an agent could hold in the industry. 157 00:08:08,822 --> 00:08:10,966 -The making of a supermodel. 158 00:08:10,990 --> 00:08:12,927 -Together, Casablancas and Marie 159 00:08:12,951 --> 00:08:14,679 create a competition for models 160 00:08:14,703 --> 00:08:18,224 already within the agency called "Look of the Year." 161 00:08:18,248 --> 00:08:20,643 -The Elite "Look of the Year" contest 162 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:22,728 evolved in the early '90s. 163 00:08:22,752 --> 00:08:25,147 It was very exciting. 164 00:08:25,171 --> 00:08:26,982 There was a lot of press. 165 00:08:27,006 --> 00:08:28,651 It was very glamorous. 166 00:08:28,675 --> 00:08:31,404 -During the day, the contestants walked the runway, 167 00:08:31,428 --> 00:08:34,031 but by night they are expected to stroll into dinners 168 00:08:34,055 --> 00:08:37,326 and parties hosted by influential men. 169 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:41,622 -The judging is taking place all the time, 170 00:08:41,646 --> 00:08:42,957 and that's true. 171 00:08:42,981 --> 00:08:45,584 You are being watched all the time. 172 00:08:45,608 --> 00:08:47,586 -John made it exciting, 173 00:08:47,610 --> 00:08:53,467 and he made sure that everybody knew that his objective 174 00:08:53,491 --> 00:08:57,555 was to create huge models out of anybody 175 00:08:57,579 --> 00:09:00,307 that were going to be part of the competition. 176 00:09:00,331 --> 00:09:02,476 -I'm Lisa Shropshire and I'm 15! 177 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:04,895 - And what position did you come? - I came first! 178 00:09:04,919 --> 00:09:06,772 -Ford launches its own competition 179 00:09:06,796 --> 00:09:10,735 designed to raise the profiles of its currently signed models: 180 00:09:10,759 --> 00:09:12,737 Ford's "supermodel of the World" 181 00:09:12,761 --> 00:09:15,948 launches the careers of girls as young as 14. 182 00:09:15,972 --> 00:09:18,617 -It was a day that changed my life. 183 00:09:18,641 --> 00:09:21,036 -Monika just turned 14 when she's selected 184 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:23,873 by Eileen Ford to represent Canada. 185 00:09:23,897 --> 00:09:25,458 -There's a reason why this lady is smiling... 186 00:09:25,482 --> 00:09:26,917 {\an8}she just won a quarter of a million dollar 187 00:09:26,941 --> 00:09:29,044 {\an8}modeling contract from Ford agency. 188 00:09:29,068 --> 00:09:32,923 {\an8}-And wins the grand prize of a Vogue cover shoot. 189 00:09:32,947 --> 00:09:35,301 -I won three months after I walked into the agency 190 00:09:35,325 --> 00:09:38,929 and six months later I was on the cover of Vogue. 191 00:09:38,953 --> 00:09:40,973 It was that fast. 192 00:09:40,997 --> 00:09:42,641 I know. 193 00:09:42,665 --> 00:09:44,268 I was going to go with Elite, 194 00:09:44,292 --> 00:09:46,937 but my mom was most comfortable with Ford 195 00:09:46,961 --> 00:09:50,065 because my mom wanted me to be with a woman. 196 00:09:50,089 --> 00:09:52,151 -Monika finds success right away, 197 00:09:52,175 --> 00:09:55,112 and her story fuels the dreams of other young girls 198 00:09:55,136 --> 00:09:58,032 that it can happen to them just as quickly. 199 00:09:58,056 --> 00:10:01,368 -The more that I saw all of the top models in the magazines, 200 00:10:01,392 --> 00:10:04,663 the more I liked them, and, like, 201 00:10:04,687 --> 00:10:08,417 really felt, you know, like the kind of powerful pull 202 00:10:08,441 --> 00:10:10,669 of wanting to be like them. 203 00:10:10,693 --> 00:10:12,963 -Do you dream of being a model? 204 00:10:12,987 --> 00:10:15,174 Want to walk the high fashion runways? 205 00:10:15,198 --> 00:10:17,218 -Before she signs with Elite, 206 00:10:17,242 --> 00:10:19,595 tall, thin 15-year-old Ashley Mears 207 00:10:19,619 --> 00:10:21,806 applies to Model Search America, 208 00:10:21,830 --> 00:10:25,142 a contest not organized by Elite or Ford, 209 00:10:25,166 --> 00:10:27,895 but still claiming to be able to help regular girls 210 00:10:27,919 --> 00:10:29,855 catch their big break. 211 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:34,568 -Model Search America can help you make them come true. 212 00:10:34,592 --> 00:10:36,153 -We went, like, on a school night 213 00:10:36,177 --> 00:10:40,491 and you go for the first... The first screening. 214 00:10:40,515 --> 00:10:43,661 Basically, if you showed up, they told you, 215 00:10:43,685 --> 00:10:46,539 yes, you have what it takes. 216 00:10:46,563 --> 00:10:48,165 -Events like Model Search America 217 00:10:48,189 --> 00:10:50,292 are largely moneymaking opportunities, 218 00:10:50,316 --> 00:10:53,212 leveraging the popularity of supermodels. 219 00:10:53,236 --> 00:10:57,466 Still, the big agencies have their own reasons to attend. 220 00:10:57,490 --> 00:11:00,177 -A lot of agents are very willing to come to these events 221 00:11:00,201 --> 00:11:02,304 because the agents want to see one another. 222 00:11:02,328 --> 00:11:04,306 So it's a networking event for the agents. 223 00:11:04,330 --> 00:11:06,433 And then the... you know, what bankrolls it all 224 00:11:06,457 --> 00:11:10,145 are kids like me and their parents. 225 00:11:10,169 --> 00:11:12,982 -Fifteen year old Ashley is approached by a scout 226 00:11:13,006 --> 00:11:14,817 with Elite model management. 227 00:11:14,841 --> 00:11:16,777 -I told them, like, how excited I was 228 00:11:16,801 --> 00:11:20,531 about all of the models that worked at Elite. 229 00:11:20,555 --> 00:11:24,076 I was really enamored with the idea that, 230 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:25,953 like, "It's happening," like, "this... 231 00:11:25,977 --> 00:11:29,790 This... i-it's all coming together for me," right? 232 00:11:29,814 --> 00:11:34,378 -Elite and Ford have the power to change a young girl's life. 233 00:11:34,402 --> 00:11:37,756 They say with great power comes great responsibility, 234 00:11:37,780 --> 00:11:39,466 but not always. 235 00:11:39,490 --> 00:11:43,679 -I definitely remember hearing whispers of things 236 00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:45,639 that were not cool. 237 00:11:45,663 --> 00:11:47,933 -As rumors of this uncool behavior 238 00:11:47,957 --> 00:11:50,561 begin circulating in the modeling world, 239 00:11:50,585 --> 00:11:52,980 some very familiar names get mentioned. 240 00:11:53,004 --> 00:11:56,859 -I knew about John Casablancas, Gerald Marie. 241 00:11:56,883 --> 00:11:58,652 I knew about the big names. 242 00:11:58,676 --> 00:12:02,865 But suddenly I was hearing about people like John-Luc Brunel. 243 00:12:02,889 --> 00:12:05,367 -As president of Karin Models in Paris, 244 00:12:05,391 --> 00:12:09,079 Jean-Luc Brunel has a reputation for launching models' careers 245 00:12:09,103 --> 00:12:10,998 and for starting trouble. 246 00:12:11,022 --> 00:12:13,626 -There were rumors about Jean-Luc 247 00:12:13,650 --> 00:12:15,711 and... and John Casablancas, 248 00:12:15,735 --> 00:12:19,048 but I wasn't alone with them ever. 249 00:12:19,072 --> 00:12:22,593 People knew that, you know, they were playboys. 250 00:12:22,617 --> 00:12:26,513 -While today the term "playboy" is loaded and problematic, 251 00:12:26,537 --> 00:12:28,223 in the '90s, many wealthy men 252 00:12:28,247 --> 00:12:29,975 were only too willing to celebrate 253 00:12:29,999 --> 00:12:35,439 both their financial success and their sexual conquests. 254 00:12:35,463 --> 00:12:40,069 -Where the trouble started was agencies in Europe 255 00:12:40,093 --> 00:12:44,555 that were run by guys who had more than money on their mind. 256 00:12:47,558 --> 00:12:49,995 {\an8}-I'm Thysia Huisman, I'm an author, 257 00:12:50,019 --> 00:12:51,997 {\an8}I wrote a book called Close-Up, 258 00:12:52,021 --> 00:12:55,751 {\an8}and it's a memoir about what happened to me as a model. 259 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:58,754 -At 18, Thysia is scouted in Brussels. 260 00:12:58,778 --> 00:13:02,883 Modest, she is surprised, then excited about the possibilities 261 00:13:02,907 --> 00:13:05,552 when Jean-Luc Brunel notices her. 262 00:13:05,576 --> 00:13:09,223 -He was the king of the modeling industry at that time. 263 00:13:09,247 --> 00:13:12,768 He met me, he was like, "Oh, you should come to Paris, 264 00:13:12,792 --> 00:13:14,645 and I see a lot of potential in you, 265 00:13:14,669 --> 00:13:16,981 and you can stay also in my apartment 266 00:13:17,005 --> 00:13:20,526 and I will make sure nothing bad happens to you." 267 00:13:20,550 --> 00:13:24,178 -But Thysia says very bad things did happen. 268 00:13:30,268 --> 00:13:32,955 -Just as grunge music finds its way onto the runway, 269 00:13:32,979 --> 00:13:38,752 {\an8}'90s supermodels find their way into music videos. 270 00:13:38,776 --> 00:13:41,380 {\an8}Helena Christensen gets steamy with Chris Isaak 271 00:13:41,404 --> 00:13:43,656 {\an8}in the "Wicked Game" video. 272 00:13:46,576 --> 00:13:49,054 {\an8}George Michael gets "Too Funky" 273 00:13:49,078 --> 00:13:51,348 {\an8}with Linda Evangelista and Tyra. 274 00:13:51,372 --> 00:13:53,517 {\an8}And while Naomi Campbell is captivating 275 00:13:53,541 --> 00:13:56,854 {\an8}and Michael Jackson's "In the Closet," 276 00:13:56,878 --> 00:13:58,939 {\an8}RuPaul pulls it all together 277 00:13:58,963 --> 00:14:01,608 {\an8}with the beloved anthem "Supermodel." 278 00:14:01,632 --> 00:14:03,694 {\an8}-♪ Sashay, shantay ♪ 279 00:14:03,718 --> 00:14:06,196 -All of this attention is music to the ears 280 00:14:06,220 --> 00:14:07,948 of young modeling hopefuls, 281 00:14:07,972 --> 00:14:10,617 especially those looking for a better life. 282 00:14:10,641 --> 00:14:12,578 -I had a kind of lonely childhood. 283 00:14:12,602 --> 00:14:14,079 {\an8}I was raised by my father 284 00:14:14,103 --> 00:14:16,623 {\an8}and my mother died when I was really young. 285 00:14:16,647 --> 00:14:18,459 {\an8}So I thought that being a model, 286 00:14:18,483 --> 00:14:20,294 you know, being in front of a camera 287 00:14:20,318 --> 00:14:25,340 would give me kind of attention and being in the limelight, 288 00:14:25,364 --> 00:14:29,470 and that that really sounded appealing to me. 289 00:14:29,494 --> 00:14:31,346 -But when Dutch model Thysia Huisman 290 00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:33,432 wins a local modeling contest, 291 00:14:33,456 --> 00:14:36,018 it's not life changing in the way she imagined. 292 00:14:36,042 --> 00:14:39,229 -They said to me, "Oh, well, congratulations, you won, 293 00:14:39,253 --> 00:14:42,274 but you're still really young, but that's good, you know, 294 00:14:42,298 --> 00:14:46,195 because you have to lose the puppy fat." 295 00:14:46,219 --> 00:14:49,782 So, um, yeah, I lost a lot of weight 296 00:14:49,806 --> 00:14:53,202 and it left me with an eating disorder. 297 00:14:53,226 --> 00:14:57,539 {\an8}-There is a lot of agents that are messed up in the head 298 00:14:57,563 --> 00:15:01,376 and they're in control of these young girls. 299 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,129 You've got agents grabbing girls' butts 300 00:15:04,153 --> 00:15:05,506 and saying "you're fat"; 301 00:15:05,530 --> 00:15:06,882 agents telling girls 302 00:15:06,906 --> 00:15:08,801 to eat cotton balls?! 303 00:15:08,825 --> 00:15:10,636 It's kind of like the wolves 304 00:15:10,660 --> 00:15:13,013 really running the chicken house. 305 00:15:13,037 --> 00:15:15,265 -Even though... Or perhaps because... 306 00:15:15,289 --> 00:15:17,726 Thysia drops to a dangerously low weight, 307 00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:21,563 she catches the eye of top modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel. 308 00:15:21,587 --> 00:15:25,776 -You know, he promised me like a pot of gold 309 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,152 and... and he said that he could, like, 310 00:15:27,176 --> 00:15:28,487 make me a supermodel. 311 00:15:28,511 --> 00:15:30,114 He also said to me, like, 312 00:15:30,138 --> 00:15:33,117 "Oh, you should come to Paris right away." 313 00:15:33,141 --> 00:15:37,579 I told my agent in Belgium that I was, like, kind of concerned 314 00:15:37,603 --> 00:15:40,415 that... if this was the right thing to do, and she said, 315 00:15:40,439 --> 00:15:44,753 "No, you know, this is really only for the special girls 316 00:15:44,777 --> 00:15:46,964 that he sees a lot of potential in that... 317 00:15:46,988 --> 00:15:50,884 And only they can stay in his apartment." 318 00:15:50,908 --> 00:15:54,221 Paris is... is the place to be as a model. 319 00:15:54,245 --> 00:15:59,726 So I was like, "Okay, if she says so, then I'll go there." 320 00:15:59,750 --> 00:16:02,437 -When Thysia arrives in Paris, she quickly learns 321 00:16:02,461 --> 00:16:03,814 that her success may be tied 322 00:16:03,838 --> 00:16:07,067 to more than her modeling skills. 323 00:16:07,091 --> 00:16:10,988 -There was this party that started in Brunel's place. 324 00:16:11,012 --> 00:16:13,532 This guy started talking to me, 325 00:16:13,556 --> 00:16:15,951 and I remember that he said to me, like, 326 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:19,955 "Oh, well, you should be really honored that Brunel, 327 00:16:19,979 --> 00:16:21,957 he sees a lot of potential in you. 328 00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:24,459 And it's important to... 329 00:16:24,483 --> 00:16:27,588 If you want to succeed as a model in Paris, 330 00:16:27,612 --> 00:16:29,256 that you are willing to do anything, you know, 331 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,575 like you are really like to... To take the extra steps." 332 00:16:35,328 --> 00:16:37,806 -Ashley is also about to experience 333 00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:39,725 the modeling world in Europe. 334 00:16:39,749 --> 00:16:43,645 -I had what is probably the more typical experience 335 00:16:43,669 --> 00:16:45,189 of somebody... 336 00:16:45,213 --> 00:16:46,940 {\an8}somebody's encounter with the modeling industry 337 00:16:46,964 --> 00:16:48,817 {\an8}in the '90s, it was, you know, 338 00:16:48,841 --> 00:16:51,236 consuming the dream from afar 339 00:16:51,260 --> 00:16:54,865 in this little commercial market of Atlanta. 340 00:16:54,889 --> 00:16:57,868 -After years of modeling in shopping mall fashion shows, 341 00:16:57,892 --> 00:16:59,828 when Ashley's agent at Elite 342 00:16:59,852 --> 00:17:02,748 asked her to go to Milan for six weeks of auditions, 343 00:17:02,772 --> 00:17:05,167 she's excited what her future holds. 344 00:17:05,191 --> 00:17:08,503 -Coming from the suburbs, I was like ready to experience 345 00:17:08,527 --> 00:17:10,172 all of this stuff that I fantasized 346 00:17:10,196 --> 00:17:13,842 was going to be super cool and glamorous. 347 00:17:13,866 --> 00:17:16,553 -Thysia and Ashley show up ready to do the hard work 348 00:17:16,577 --> 00:17:18,055 necessary to land jobs 349 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:22,476 in the fashion capitals of Paris and Milan. 350 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:24,728 -I remember that I was with my backpack 351 00:17:24,752 --> 00:17:28,357 and my portfolio under my arm, and I was really like, 352 00:17:28,381 --> 00:17:33,403 "Wow," you know, "this is everything I ever dreamed of." 353 00:17:33,427 --> 00:17:35,822 -I've had fantasies that I would make a lot of money 354 00:17:35,846 --> 00:17:39,493 or I could be, you know, seen by the right client. 355 00:17:39,517 --> 00:17:40,786 You know, what if Prada saw me 356 00:17:40,810 --> 00:17:42,871 and I could be the face of Prada? 357 00:17:42,895 --> 00:17:47,084 -Booking jobs in Europe can make or break a modeling career. 358 00:17:47,108 --> 00:17:50,754 But for many young models, being a teenager far from home 359 00:17:50,778 --> 00:17:52,756 and trying to begin a grown-up career 360 00:17:52,780 --> 00:17:56,385 can be both overwhelming and disorienting. 361 00:17:56,409 --> 00:18:00,389 {\an8}-To look 30 and to be, you know, 14, 362 00:18:00,413 --> 00:18:03,058 {\an8}'cause my height and when I'm made up, 363 00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:05,727 I was always treated like a woman. 364 00:18:05,751 --> 00:18:08,897 But emotionally and intellectually, 365 00:18:08,921 --> 00:18:12,800 my emotional intelligence wasn't there yet. 366 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,740 -I showed up in very hot Milan. 367 00:18:18,764 --> 00:18:21,576 Some, you know, nice young man met me at the airport, 368 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,245 introduced himself as intended, 369 00:18:23,269 --> 00:18:26,915 got me a cappuccino and drove me around for my castings. 370 00:18:26,939 --> 00:18:29,960 And then when dropping me home, was like, 371 00:18:29,984 --> 00:18:32,796 "Oh, we're going for a dinner tonight with the agents 372 00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:34,172 and all of the other girls. 373 00:18:34,196 --> 00:18:35,757 And then we're going to go to a party." 374 00:18:35,781 --> 00:18:37,259 And I was like, "Amazing! 375 00:18:37,283 --> 00:18:40,745 This is like... This guy is so cool," right? 376 00:18:43,372 --> 00:18:45,225 And then I understood after a couple of weeks 377 00:18:45,249 --> 00:18:47,978 that it was like that every night in Milan 378 00:18:48,002 --> 00:18:50,105 and that he didn't work for the agency, 379 00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:52,357 he actually worked for a nightclub. 380 00:18:52,381 --> 00:18:56,611 He's one of the promoters that the clubs hire 381 00:18:56,635 --> 00:18:59,740 to bring the girls. 382 00:18:59,764 --> 00:19:03,225 -Ashley's experience in Milan is not unique. 383 00:19:07,438 --> 00:19:09,458 -You are in these incredible clubs, 384 00:19:09,482 --> 00:19:13,712 and there you see also people I only knew from movies 385 00:19:13,736 --> 00:19:16,256 and... and, like, pop stars. 386 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,510 So of course, I felt starstruck and also, 387 00:19:20,534 --> 00:19:26,558 you don't have to pay anything because everything is paid for. 388 00:19:26,582 --> 00:19:30,020 -Of course, there's no such thing as a free anything, 389 00:19:30,044 --> 00:19:32,773 there's always an expectation of reciprocity. 390 00:19:32,797 --> 00:19:36,026 So the models are paying back with their presence 391 00:19:36,050 --> 00:19:37,986 in these places to beautify them, 392 00:19:38,010 --> 00:19:41,615 to make them look fashionable so that the cafe or the club 393 00:19:41,639 --> 00:19:45,017 can also capitalize on the beauty. 394 00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:49,831 -Some women were very... Or young women 395 00:19:49,855 --> 00:19:52,250 were very, um, you know, 396 00:19:52,274 --> 00:19:54,336 focused on the work. 397 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:58,739 And then there were others that, um, just had the best time. 398 00:20:00,533 --> 00:20:03,512 I was in awe of these girls just partying all night 399 00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:07,641 and showing up the next day, and they could work. 400 00:20:07,665 --> 00:20:09,684 -But isolated and alone, 401 00:20:09,708 --> 00:20:13,522 the nightlife can become a lifeline. 402 00:20:13,546 --> 00:20:16,358 -Think about the population of models coming through cities 403 00:20:16,382 --> 00:20:17,984 like New York or Milan... 404 00:20:18,008 --> 00:20:20,362 It's also highly transient, it's young people, 405 00:20:20,386 --> 00:20:21,947 it's people who don't have their networks 406 00:20:21,971 --> 00:20:23,907 already established in these places. 407 00:20:23,931 --> 00:20:26,493 I wasn't connected to anybody else in Milan, 408 00:20:26,517 --> 00:20:28,995 and here was this cool guy 409 00:20:29,019 --> 00:20:31,581 who was offering me access to, 410 00:20:31,605 --> 00:20:34,709 you know, cool places that I wouldn't otherwise know 411 00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:36,378 even where to look for, 412 00:20:36,402 --> 00:20:38,338 couldn't afford to eat in them, 413 00:20:38,362 --> 00:20:40,298 even if I knew where they were. 414 00:20:40,322 --> 00:20:42,217 And then he was introducing me to everybody. 415 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:45,345 So it was like this instant network that I could connect to. 416 00:20:45,369 --> 00:20:47,973 -On one hand, it was like everything I ever wanted, 417 00:20:47,997 --> 00:20:50,350 you know, to become a model, 418 00:20:50,374 --> 00:20:52,644 but was also really lonely because you weren't... 419 00:20:52,668 --> 00:20:54,980 You were always on your own, you know? 420 00:20:55,004 --> 00:20:58,400 You don't have, like, colleagues you work in an office with. 421 00:20:58,424 --> 00:21:02,237 -And while the nightlife helps ease Thysia's loneliness, 422 00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:03,572 when the sun goes down, 423 00:21:03,596 --> 00:21:05,949 things also become more dangerous. 424 00:21:05,973 --> 00:21:09,244 -Brunel, he had two sides, because during the day 425 00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:12,914 he was really charismatic and really charming, 426 00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:15,000 but he had also another side. 427 00:21:15,024 --> 00:21:17,461 And that was especially in the evenings 428 00:21:17,485 --> 00:21:20,881 and the night... He became sexual harassing. 429 00:21:20,905 --> 00:21:23,341 His behavior, that was not okay, you know, 430 00:21:23,365 --> 00:21:24,801 and I didn't feel safe. 431 00:21:24,825 --> 00:21:27,596 And... but on the other hand, I thought, yeah, 432 00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:29,872 I can handle this guy, you know? 433 00:21:36,212 --> 00:21:38,440 -Please meet the exquisite Naomi Campbell! 434 00:21:38,464 --> 00:21:40,358 Naomi! - By the start of the '90s, 435 00:21:40,382 --> 00:21:43,069 the girls of the decade are popping up everywhere, 436 00:21:43,093 --> 00:21:46,114 even on "Oprah," and they're endorsing countless products. 437 00:21:46,138 --> 00:21:50,076 Cindy Crawford stars in this Super Bowl commercial for Pepsi. 438 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:56,166 {\an8}♪♪ 439 00:21:56,190 --> 00:21:58,919 {\an8}Kate Moss becomes the face of Calvin Klein... 440 00:21:58,943 --> 00:22:01,463 {\an8}And Christy Turlington gets paid six figures 441 00:22:01,487 --> 00:22:04,716 {\an8}for 12 days of work on a Maybelline campaign. 442 00:22:04,740 --> 00:22:07,052 -Is it true that... That supermodels get paid 443 00:22:07,076 --> 00:22:10,138 that enormous amount of money, £10,000 a day? 444 00:22:10,162 --> 00:22:12,098 {\an8}-I never discuss money, ever. 445 00:22:12,122 --> 00:22:13,808 -One supermodel will: 446 00:22:13,832 --> 00:22:15,810 Linda Evangelista famously let it slip 447 00:22:15,834 --> 00:22:18,021 in an interview that she doesn't get out of bed 448 00:22:18,045 --> 00:22:20,190 for less than $10,000. 449 00:22:20,214 --> 00:22:23,985 -And suddenly the models were like, 450 00:22:24,009 --> 00:22:26,363 "Wait, 10,000? 451 00:22:26,387 --> 00:22:29,074 Hmm. How about 25,000? 452 00:22:29,098 --> 00:22:30,909 Maybe 50,000?" 453 00:22:30,933 --> 00:22:34,829 So then it just took on a life of its own. 454 00:22:34,853 --> 00:22:38,333 -The era of a few high paid supermodels means agents 455 00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:39,876 like Jean-Luc Brunel 456 00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:42,629 are bombarded with many beautiful young girls 457 00:22:42,653 --> 00:22:45,090 looking for that same kind of success. 458 00:22:45,114 --> 00:22:47,842 But that bright light focused on the few 459 00:22:47,866 --> 00:22:50,929 continues to blind the many to the warnings about men like 460 00:22:50,953 --> 00:22:55,850 Jean-Luc delivered in the not-too-distant past. 461 00:22:55,874 --> 00:22:58,645 - He gave you a drink? - Yes. 462 00:22:58,669 --> 00:23:01,773 - You drank it and then what? - I blacked out. 463 00:23:01,797 --> 00:23:04,901 I don't remember anything after that. 464 00:23:04,925 --> 00:23:07,904 -The next thing you remember was? 465 00:23:07,928 --> 00:23:10,365 -Was being in this man's bed. 466 00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:12,242 -Who was he? 467 00:23:12,266 --> 00:23:14,619 -Do I have to say the name? 468 00:23:14,643 --> 00:23:16,955 It was Jean-Luc. 469 00:23:16,979 --> 00:23:20,500 - You were raped. - Yes, I do know that. 470 00:23:20,524 --> 00:23:24,838 -The 1988 Diane Sawyer exposé on "60 Minutes" 471 00:23:24,862 --> 00:23:27,257 accused top modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel 472 00:23:27,281 --> 00:23:28,675 of sexual assault, 473 00:23:28,699 --> 00:23:30,427 but no legal action is pursued, 474 00:23:30,451 --> 00:23:34,180 attention recedes, and Brunel continues to flourish. 475 00:23:34,204 --> 00:23:37,642 {\an8}-I remember when that came out, it was... it was a big deal. 476 00:23:37,666 --> 00:23:39,769 {\an8}It's... it's all anyone talked about. 477 00:23:39,793 --> 00:23:43,857 And I understood now why my mom wouldn't let me go stay 478 00:23:43,881 --> 00:23:46,693 at Jean-Luc's house in Paris, 479 00:23:46,717 --> 00:23:50,071 and why my mom didn't want me to be with John Casablancas 480 00:23:50,095 --> 00:23:52,681 and she wanted me to be with a woman. 481 00:23:54,725 --> 00:23:57,746 -Despite the accusations, the fashion industry chooses 482 00:23:57,770 --> 00:24:01,357 to treat them like last season's collection and moves on. 483 00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:04,836 {\an8}-Everybody in the industry knew, 484 00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:08,006 {\an8}all the agents, they knew, you know, and they couldn't... 485 00:24:08,030 --> 00:24:10,550 {\an8}they didn't care because they made money. 486 00:24:10,574 --> 00:24:12,093 So they looked the other way. 487 00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:15,263 -Unfazed, Jean-Luc Brunel learned to adapt 488 00:24:15,287 --> 00:24:18,308 and continues business as usual. 489 00:24:18,332 --> 00:24:20,727 {\an8}-Eventually, Jean-Luc Brunel leaves Karin's. 490 00:24:20,751 --> 00:24:22,437 {\an8}And what does he do? 491 00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:24,880 He starts a whole 'nother group of modeling agencies. 492 00:24:26,965 --> 00:24:32,113 -When you put very powerful men into a room 493 00:24:32,137 --> 00:24:37,243 with literally hundreds of teenage girls 494 00:24:37,267 --> 00:24:39,204 that are desperate, 495 00:24:39,228 --> 00:24:42,290 I mean desperate, to become successful 496 00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:44,751 and be on the cover of Vogue, 497 00:24:44,775 --> 00:24:47,921 and they don't have any parental supervision, 498 00:24:47,945 --> 00:24:53,134 {\an1}knowing that those men can make the difference in their careers, 499 00:24:53,158 --> 00:24:57,097 the girls will just kind of morph 500 00:24:57,121 --> 00:25:01,518 to whatever is happening in that environment at the time, 501 00:25:01,542 --> 00:25:05,980 thinking, "This is the way it happens. 502 00:25:06,004 --> 00:25:10,342 This is what you have to do to become successful." 503 00:25:12,386 --> 00:25:16,658 -During her week-long stay at Jean-Luc Brunel's in '91, 504 00:25:16,682 --> 00:25:19,661 Thysia is starting to recognize a pattern. 505 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:21,538 -Every night there were like dinners; 506 00:25:21,562 --> 00:25:23,707 as a guest, you had to attend, 507 00:25:23,731 --> 00:25:27,252 and the seating was always like this... 508 00:25:27,276 --> 00:25:30,046 Was a man and then a model, 509 00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:32,799 man, model, man, model, man, model, you know? 510 00:25:32,823 --> 00:25:34,342 So you were like... 511 00:25:34,366 --> 00:25:36,678 And I... I realized already back then 512 00:25:36,702 --> 00:25:39,848 that, you know, you were entourage. 513 00:25:39,872 --> 00:25:42,851 You know, you were like the arm candy. 514 00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:45,228 -While researching a book about the fashion world, 515 00:25:45,252 --> 00:25:47,272 writer Michael Gross is hearing rumors 516 00:25:47,296 --> 00:25:49,941 about this type of predatory behavior 517 00:25:49,965 --> 00:25:52,569 where unknown models are exploited. 518 00:25:52,593 --> 00:25:56,364 He also notices supermodels are not at these parties... 519 00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:59,159 And he understands why. 520 00:25:59,183 --> 00:26:04,205 -They look at someone and they see money, 521 00:26:04,229 --> 00:26:07,584 huge, vast sums of money. 522 00:26:07,608 --> 00:26:09,711 Do not mess with that girl, 523 00:26:09,735 --> 00:26:12,922 mess with that one who's never going to be anybody. 524 00:26:12,946 --> 00:26:15,884 And that's the way that they work. 525 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:19,846 I took a second trip to Europe to do follow-up interviews, 526 00:26:19,870 --> 00:26:22,515 and I fell into this nest of vipers 527 00:26:22,539 --> 00:26:24,642 and all of these creatures and gremlins 528 00:26:24,666 --> 00:26:26,519 and insects are pouring out. 529 00:26:26,543 --> 00:26:31,983 And I realized that people were beginning to understand 530 00:26:32,007 --> 00:26:35,969 that I might stir some shit up. 531 00:26:40,974 --> 00:26:43,077 -In the early '90s, stars of the fashion world 532 00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:45,163 start to blend with other celebrities. 533 00:26:45,187 --> 00:26:48,541 Supermodels are now known for both the clothes on their backs 534 00:26:48,565 --> 00:26:50,794 and the men on their arms. 535 00:26:50,818 --> 00:26:53,546 But before a model can make it to the A-list, 536 00:26:53,570 --> 00:26:55,757 she must make it through the hands of powerful 537 00:26:55,781 --> 00:26:58,593 and sometimes predatory gatekeepers, 538 00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:01,620 something fashion writer Michael Gross understood. 539 00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:08,311 {\an8}-There were patterns of behavior that had been acceptable. 540 00:27:08,335 --> 00:27:09,938 -And he wants to expose it, 541 00:27:09,962 --> 00:27:12,607 but Gross will soon discover his plan to shine a light 542 00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:15,401 on this shadowy part of the modeling industry 543 00:27:15,425 --> 00:27:18,029 will be met with a dangerous kind of darkness. 544 00:27:18,053 --> 00:27:22,909 -I was actually threatened by Johnny Casablancas, 545 00:27:22,933 --> 00:27:24,994 who made a lunch date with me. 546 00:27:25,018 --> 00:27:27,205 He looked at me, he said, "Hello," you know, 547 00:27:27,229 --> 00:27:29,624 and then he said, "If you harm Elite, 548 00:27:29,648 --> 00:27:31,459 Elite will harm you." 549 00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:33,753 And he stood up and he walked out. 550 00:27:33,777 --> 00:27:35,588 Wow! You know? 551 00:27:35,612 --> 00:27:40,260 It was clear to me this was an amazing story 552 00:27:40,284 --> 00:27:43,054 and people only knew the tip of the iceberg. 553 00:27:43,078 --> 00:27:45,682 And when John Casablancas delivered the threat, 554 00:27:45,706 --> 00:27:48,476 I got a little paranoid at a certain point. 555 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:49,936 I took all my interview tapes 556 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,147 and I put them into a airline carry on bag 557 00:27:53,171 --> 00:27:56,693 and I hid it under the bed of a friend of ours in Paris. 558 00:27:56,717 --> 00:27:58,570 I'm not writing about the Mafia, 559 00:27:58,594 --> 00:28:00,989 I'm writing about the fashion world, 560 00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:03,116 for God's sakes. 561 00:28:03,140 --> 00:28:06,494 You know, Jean-Luc Brunel had a horrible habit 562 00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:08,663 of using the merchandise 563 00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:12,166 for reasons that were not above board. 564 00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:14,419 The same thing happens with every one of these guys. 565 00:28:14,443 --> 00:28:15,920 Look at Gerald Marie. 566 00:28:15,944 --> 00:28:18,590 It just so happened that in his off hours, 567 00:28:18,614 --> 00:28:22,552 he was treating models like garbage. 568 00:28:22,576 --> 00:28:25,722 -By the mid-'90s, Gerald Marie is at the center of rumors 569 00:28:25,746 --> 00:28:28,808 about bad behavior with models. 570 00:28:28,832 --> 00:28:31,352 While on an agency retreat in Ibiza, 571 00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:35,148 American agent Marie Anderson overhears a conversation 572 00:28:35,172 --> 00:28:37,108 she can't ignore. 573 00:28:37,132 --> 00:28:38,902 {\an8}-It was Gerald Marie, 574 00:28:38,926 --> 00:28:40,612 {\an8}John Casablancas, 575 00:28:40,636 --> 00:28:43,823 Lisa Herzog from New York Elite, 576 00:28:43,847 --> 00:28:47,118 and Trudi Tapscott from New York Elite, 577 00:28:47,142 --> 00:28:51,289 and both of these young women were begging the men 578 00:28:51,313 --> 00:28:56,461 to stop sleeping with the young teenage girls. 579 00:28:56,485 --> 00:29:01,883 And Gerald said, "We are men, we have our needs." 580 00:29:01,907 --> 00:29:04,010 And John's response was, 581 00:29:04,034 --> 00:29:07,722 "Lisa, Trudi, it's not that big of a deal," 582 00:29:07,746 --> 00:29:12,477 like, "stop being so puritanical about your ideas of sex, 583 00:29:12,501 --> 00:29:15,462 this is fine," and the men refused to listen. 584 00:29:17,506 --> 00:29:20,360 -Disgusted by the blatant abuses of power, 585 00:29:20,384 --> 00:29:23,696 Marie Anderson quits her job as an agent at Elite. 586 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,741 -I kept trying to have this conversation, 587 00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:29,577 and people were like, "Marie, shut up. 588 00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:32,205 Nobody wants to hear this crap. 589 00:29:32,229 --> 00:29:34,999 Don't be a Debbie Downer. 590 00:29:35,023 --> 00:29:38,294 This is part of the business. Just accept it." 591 00:29:38,318 --> 00:29:41,839 -Accepting it seems to be the key to understanding why 592 00:29:41,863 --> 00:29:45,176 nothing changed even after the "60 Minutes" report 593 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,844 of abuse in the industry. 594 00:29:46,868 --> 00:29:48,846 -He's got the agency, he's got the girls, 595 00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:51,849 his friends say, "Oh, Jean-Luc, I'd like to have," you know, 596 00:29:51,873 --> 00:29:53,977 "I'd like to meet some girls and we're having a party tonight, 597 00:29:54,001 --> 00:29:56,229 can you bring some girls?" - And what happens 598 00:29:56,253 --> 00:29:58,755 if you say no? - You don't work. 599 00:30:01,550 --> 00:30:03,695 -One model in particular, 600 00:30:03,719 --> 00:30:06,698 who I thought was tough as nails, 601 00:30:06,722 --> 00:30:09,826 I warned her what was going to happen and she's like, 602 00:30:09,850 --> 00:30:11,411 "Marie, I'll deck the guy. 603 00:30:11,435 --> 00:30:13,287 You know, that'll never happen." 604 00:30:13,311 --> 00:30:16,749 A little time passes and she calls me crying 605 00:30:16,773 --> 00:30:19,961 and she said, "Marie, Gerald Marie is a pig 606 00:30:19,985 --> 00:30:22,839 and he's been hitting on me all the time, 607 00:30:22,863 --> 00:30:25,299 and he said that if I don't sleep with him, 608 00:30:25,323 --> 00:30:28,511 I'm not going to work and I haven't been working. 609 00:30:28,535 --> 00:30:30,179 I think I'm going to sleep with him." 610 00:30:30,203 --> 00:30:33,266 I'm like, "Don't do it, please, girl, don't do it. 611 00:30:33,290 --> 00:30:34,934 You'll sell your soul." 612 00:30:34,958 --> 00:30:36,686 She said, "Okay, okay, okay, 613 00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:40,148 thank you for talking me off the ledge, I won't do it." 614 00:30:40,172 --> 00:30:44,277 So months go by and she comes home 615 00:30:44,301 --> 00:30:49,073 and she's showing me her portfolio full of covers. 616 00:30:49,097 --> 00:30:50,950 And I'm like, "Look at you! 617 00:30:50,974 --> 00:30:53,494 Look at all these beautiful covers! 618 00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:55,705 Aren't you proud of yourself? 619 00:30:55,729 --> 00:30:57,749 You didn't sleep with him, 620 00:30:57,773 --> 00:31:00,793 and look what you accomplished!" 621 00:31:00,817 --> 00:31:02,503 And she sat there silent, she goes, 622 00:31:02,527 --> 00:31:03,921 "No, Marie, 623 00:31:03,945 --> 00:31:06,090 I did start sleeping with him. 624 00:31:06,114 --> 00:31:09,010 And as soon as I did, I started booking those covers." 625 00:31:09,034 --> 00:31:13,181 {\an8}♪♪ 626 00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:15,683 -He knew! He knew. 627 00:31:15,707 --> 00:31:18,686 He knew he could control that situation. 628 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:21,481 -But in Paris, 18 year old model Thysia 629 00:31:21,505 --> 00:31:24,609 thinks she will be able to control the situation. 630 00:31:24,633 --> 00:31:27,111 She books two jobs, and on her last night, 631 00:31:27,135 --> 00:31:29,947 she says she accepts an offer to celebrate her success 632 00:31:29,971 --> 00:31:32,909 with Jean-Luc Brunel. 633 00:31:32,933 --> 00:31:35,578 {\an8}-Brunel, he was really excited and he was saying like, 634 00:31:35,602 --> 00:31:38,706 {\an8}"Oh, you know, you did so well and I'm so proud of you." 635 00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:40,541 So I said, yeah, we should celebrate. 636 00:31:40,565 --> 00:31:42,794 And... 637 00:31:42,818 --> 00:31:45,755 Of course, I didn't forget about him being a creep, 638 00:31:45,779 --> 00:31:48,091 but on the other hand, I was also like, 639 00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:50,218 okay, you know, this is, you know, 640 00:31:50,242 --> 00:31:52,345 I'm moving in the right direction, you know, 641 00:31:52,369 --> 00:31:55,431 for my career. 642 00:31:55,455 --> 00:31:57,725 I remember that he gave me a drink and he said, 643 00:31:57,749 --> 00:31:59,727 "I made this drink, especially for you." 644 00:31:59,751 --> 00:32:01,479 It was kind of mixed drink. 645 00:32:01,503 --> 00:32:04,482 And, um... 646 00:32:04,506 --> 00:32:07,568 Yeah, he... he said, "Cheers to your career," 647 00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:10,905 and... and I remember that I drank it, 648 00:32:10,929 --> 00:32:14,784 and 20 minutes later I started... 649 00:32:14,808 --> 00:32:17,036 to become dizzy. 650 00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:18,996 I told him, "I don't feel so well, 651 00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:20,706 so I want to lie down." 652 00:32:20,730 --> 00:32:24,418 And he said, "Yeah, but you can lie down in my room." 653 00:32:24,442 --> 00:32:27,588 I remember that he... He pushed me on his bed 654 00:32:27,612 --> 00:32:29,549 and I remember that then I blacked out. 655 00:32:29,573 --> 00:32:33,427 And the next moment that I realized 656 00:32:33,451 --> 00:32:34,762 that he was on top of me, 657 00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,974 and I remember that I was fighting him, 658 00:32:37,998 --> 00:32:42,228 but I... I remember also that I didn't have the power, 659 00:32:42,252 --> 00:32:43,938 you know, to really fight him. 660 00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:47,733 He was, like, in between my legs 661 00:32:47,757 --> 00:32:50,611 and he was starting to penetrate me. 662 00:32:50,635 --> 00:32:54,949 And after that, also blackout again, 663 00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:58,786 and, uh, yeah. 664 00:32:58,810 --> 00:33:00,746 The next morning I remember 665 00:33:00,770 --> 00:33:05,877 that I woke up feeling 666 00:33:05,901 --> 00:33:08,379 like a train rode over me, you know? 667 00:33:08,403 --> 00:33:11,257 {\an8}♪♪ 668 00:33:11,281 --> 00:33:12,758 Um... 669 00:33:12,782 --> 00:33:14,594 I got my memory back, you know, 670 00:33:14,618 --> 00:33:16,095 it was kind of fragmented, 671 00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:19,182 and then I realized what happened, 672 00:33:19,206 --> 00:33:21,374 you know, that he raped me. 673 00:33:28,381 --> 00:33:30,026 -♪ I'm too sexy for Milan, too sexy for Milan ♪ 674 00:33:30,050 --> 00:33:31,027 ♪ New York and Japan ♪ 675 00:33:31,051 --> 00:33:32,570 -It's big, it's colorful, 676 00:33:32,594 --> 00:33:34,864 it's theatrical, it's haute couture... 677 00:33:34,888 --> 00:33:37,241 Original high fashion, custom-made for 678 00:33:37,265 --> 00:33:39,285 the very few who can afford it. 679 00:33:39,309 --> 00:33:41,746 -In the seemingly glamorous world of fashion, 680 00:33:41,770 --> 00:33:43,915 supermodels are to young girls 681 00:33:43,939 --> 00:33:46,918 what haute couture is to mass-market fashion: 682 00:33:46,942 --> 00:33:49,337 aspirational and out of reach. 683 00:33:49,361 --> 00:33:52,048 -♪ I'm a model, you know what I mean ♪ 684 00:33:52,072 --> 00:33:55,009 ♪ And I do my little turn on the catwalk ♪ 685 00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:57,345 -The handful of women at the top sell the dream 686 00:33:57,369 --> 00:33:59,055 to the majority of models who end up 687 00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:01,641 owning a very different experience. 688 00:34:01,665 --> 00:34:03,935 -♪ ...on the catwalk ♪ 689 00:34:03,959 --> 00:34:08,189 {\an8}♪♪ 690 00:34:08,213 --> 00:34:11,359 -After a week of auditions and staying at Brunel's apartment, 691 00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:15,571 18 year old Thysia alleges that he drugged and raped her. 692 00:34:15,595 --> 00:34:19,784 -All I wanted to do was escape that apartment. 693 00:34:19,808 --> 00:34:22,203 -According to Thysia, she returns home in shock 694 00:34:22,227 --> 00:34:25,373 and keeps quiet about what happened to her. 695 00:34:25,397 --> 00:34:29,210 -Paris was his city, you know, it was his country, 696 00:34:29,234 --> 00:34:32,213 he was the king, he was the hot shot of the modeling world, 697 00:34:32,237 --> 00:34:35,883 you know, and I was a nobody. 698 00:34:35,907 --> 00:34:39,178 -During your time in Paris, Thysia books two big contracts 699 00:34:39,202 --> 00:34:41,681 and her career is about to take off, 700 00:34:41,705 --> 00:34:43,975 but instead she steps away. 701 00:34:43,999 --> 00:34:47,728 -I quit modeling because it was full of, you know, 702 00:34:47,752 --> 00:34:50,982 creeps that couldn't get their hands off you. 703 00:34:51,006 --> 00:34:54,151 And... but I never told the whole story 704 00:34:54,175 --> 00:34:56,279 because I was too ashamed for it. 705 00:34:56,303 --> 00:34:57,822 -Speaking from experience, 706 00:34:57,846 --> 00:35:00,825 I can tell you that the predator 707 00:35:00,849 --> 00:35:03,369 relies on you being mute. 708 00:35:03,393 --> 00:35:06,831 The predator relies on you keeping your mouth shut, 709 00:35:06,855 --> 00:35:11,127 keeping things status quo, and knowing your place. 710 00:35:11,151 --> 00:35:14,255 -Once again is Jean-Luc Brunel is not charged, 711 00:35:14,279 --> 00:35:18,592 but in 1995, Michael Gross releases his book that, 712 00:35:18,616 --> 00:35:20,428 like the "60 Minutes" episode, 713 00:35:20,452 --> 00:35:23,472 exposes the ugly truth of the modeling world, 714 00:35:23,496 --> 00:35:27,143 again accusing Brunel and others of abuse. 715 00:35:27,167 --> 00:35:30,521 -Johnny Casablancas greets the book by threatening to sue me, 716 00:35:30,545 --> 00:35:31,981 thereby selling, you know, 717 00:35:32,005 --> 00:35:34,984 probably tens of thousands of copies. 718 00:35:35,008 --> 00:35:37,778 -Michael Gross has ruffled a few feathers in the fashion world 719 00:35:37,802 --> 00:35:39,530 with his new book, 720 00:35:39,554 --> 00:35:42,241 "Model: The Ugly Business of Beautiful Women." 721 00:35:42,265 --> 00:35:43,951 {\an8}-I don't think the book is judgmental. 722 00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:46,912 {\an8}I think that the book is reported 723 00:35:46,936 --> 00:35:49,206 {\an8}and people who are reading it are drawing judgments. 724 00:35:49,230 --> 00:35:52,918 The modeling industry basically cleaved in half. 725 00:35:52,942 --> 00:35:58,090 There were the people who felt wronged, 726 00:35:58,114 --> 00:36:00,509 who were generally people who I wrote about 727 00:36:00,533 --> 00:36:02,136 and told tales about. 728 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,306 And there were people who were gleeful 729 00:36:05,330 --> 00:36:08,893 because the bad guys had finally taken it in the throat. 730 00:36:08,917 --> 00:36:11,270 -Gross's book kicks up a lot of dust, 731 00:36:11,294 --> 00:36:14,106 but when it settles, the titans of the modeling world 732 00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:16,275 are still standing. 733 00:36:16,299 --> 00:36:19,320 -I had hoped that the industry would change, but again, 734 00:36:19,344 --> 00:36:22,156 it was just like that "60 Minutes" episode 735 00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:24,825 back in the '80s... Nothing happened. 736 00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:28,371 -As the industry largely dismisses Gross's allegations, 737 00:36:28,395 --> 00:36:31,082 supermodels begin getting replaced 738 00:36:31,106 --> 00:36:33,793 on magazine covers with actresses. 739 00:36:33,817 --> 00:36:35,920 But the marriage of film and fashion will bring 740 00:36:35,944 --> 00:36:40,049 even more morally bankrupt power players into the mix, 741 00:36:40,073 --> 00:36:41,884 including Harvey Weinstein, 742 00:36:41,908 --> 00:36:43,386 who goes on to executive produce 743 00:36:43,410 --> 00:36:46,305 the hit modeling reality show "Project Runway." 744 00:36:46,329 --> 00:36:49,308 - is the chance of a lifetime. 745 00:36:49,332 --> 00:36:57,191 -By '96, the complexion of the runway utterly changes. 746 00:36:57,215 --> 00:36:59,568 And suddenly you had what I called 747 00:36:59,592 --> 00:37:01,445 the march of the wan blondes. 748 00:37:01,469 --> 00:37:04,281 It was like someone just came in 749 00:37:04,305 --> 00:37:09,370 and said anything that can attract attention, no. 750 00:37:09,394 --> 00:37:13,398 We have to put the attention back on the clothes. 751 00:37:15,733 --> 00:37:17,753 -By 1997, the fashion world 752 00:37:17,777 --> 00:37:19,880 is wrapped up in another controversy 753 00:37:19,904 --> 00:37:22,174 when waif-like supermodel Kate Moss 754 00:37:22,198 --> 00:37:24,802 hopes to create the next big aesthetic, 755 00:37:24,826 --> 00:37:27,054 known as heroin chic. 756 00:37:27,078 --> 00:37:29,723 -And so here starts a new trend. 757 00:37:29,747 --> 00:37:31,475 And I don't think that, 758 00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:34,687 when they started calling girls like her "heroin chic," 759 00:37:34,711 --> 00:37:39,733 she knew that she had a drug problem. 760 00:37:39,757 --> 00:37:41,610 -The ultra-thin look sells clothes, 761 00:37:41,634 --> 00:37:45,156 but comes with a high price when one of its photographers, 762 00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:48,308 David Sorrenti, dies of a heroin overdose. 763 00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:52,788 -The thing that was so interesting 764 00:37:52,812 --> 00:37:56,292 about the waifs and heroin chic 765 00:37:56,316 --> 00:38:01,046 was that politicians latched on to it. 766 00:38:01,070 --> 00:38:04,258 -You do not need to glamorize addiction to sell clothes. 767 00:38:04,282 --> 00:38:07,428 -And while '90s sexual misconduct in the fashion world 768 00:38:07,452 --> 00:38:08,846 is shrugged off, 769 00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:11,307 heroin's tangential relationship to modeling 770 00:38:11,331 --> 00:38:13,601 is something President Bill Clinton 771 00:38:13,625 --> 00:38:15,352 feels requires his attention. 772 00:38:15,376 --> 00:38:19,106 -The images projected in fashion photos in the last few years 773 00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:23,027 have made heroin addiction seem glamorous and sexy and cool. 774 00:38:23,051 --> 00:38:25,779 -But heroin will only briefly distract from 775 00:38:25,803 --> 00:38:28,264 what remains modeling's original sin. 776 00:38:33,728 --> 00:38:36,749 In 1999, two BBC reporters, 777 00:38:36,773 --> 00:38:39,293 Donal Maclntyre and Lisa Brinkworth, 778 00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:41,295 go undercover to gain video proof 779 00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:43,964 of some of fashion's biggest predators. 780 00:38:43,988 --> 00:38:47,134 -I was in the company of some of the most powerful 781 00:38:47,158 --> 00:38:49,345 and I would say dangerous men 782 00:38:49,369 --> 00:38:50,703 in the industry. 783 00:38:55,416 --> 00:38:59,063 {\an8}-In 1999, the BBC produces a documentary 784 00:38:59,087 --> 00:39:04,109 {\an8}with undercover footage of Gerald Marie behaving badly. 785 00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:06,445 -I'm not quite sure how it ended up in my hands, 786 00:39:06,469 --> 00:39:10,241 but I ended up with a VHS tape 787 00:39:10,265 --> 00:39:13,160 of the documentary, 788 00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:15,329 and I watched it and I was like, 789 00:39:15,353 --> 00:39:20,042 "Praise Jesus, finally, somebody is talking about this stuff!" 790 00:39:20,066 --> 00:39:22,294 -When the documentary airs in the UK, 791 00:39:22,318 --> 00:39:25,339 Casablancas is quick to react. 792 00:39:25,363 --> 00:39:27,675 He lawyers up and sues the BBC, 793 00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:29,635 claiming it was all a setup 794 00:39:29,659 --> 00:39:32,620 and the episode is banned from airing ever again. 795 00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:36,600 But enough people see the program 796 00:39:36,624 --> 00:39:39,687 to keep the issue alive in the fashion world. 797 00:39:39,711 --> 00:39:43,023 Both Marie and Brunel adamantly denied the claims 798 00:39:43,047 --> 00:39:45,734 and continue to work under the radar 799 00:39:45,758 --> 00:39:49,446 until a powerful movement emerges. 800 00:39:49,470 --> 00:39:51,198 -The New York Times reported today 801 00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:54,952 Weinstein is accused of sexually harassing female employees 802 00:39:54,976 --> 00:39:57,162 and actors for decades. 803 00:39:57,186 --> 00:40:00,291 -After years of using his power to prey on women, 804 00:40:00,315 --> 00:40:03,377 Harvey Weinstein is brought down when his victims speak up 805 00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:05,879 and ignite the powerful Me Too movement 806 00:40:05,903 --> 00:40:09,341 founded by Tarana Burke in 2006. 807 00:40:09,365 --> 00:40:11,385 Their strength encourages other women 808 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:13,262 to hold their abusers accountable, 809 00:40:13,286 --> 00:40:16,390 including one of America's worst perpetrators. 810 00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:18,100 {\an8}-Sixty-six year old Jeffrey Epstein 811 00:40:18,124 --> 00:40:20,102 {\an8}was arrested Saturday in New Jersey 812 00:40:20,126 --> 00:40:22,563 after returning from Paris on his private jet. 813 00:40:22,587 --> 00:40:24,523 -The arrest sparks a memory of a party 814 00:40:24,547 --> 00:40:28,944 hosted by the person Thysia says raped her in 1991 815 00:40:28,968 --> 00:40:30,404 and the man she met who advised her 816 00:40:30,428 --> 00:40:33,574 to be willing to do anything to get ahead. 817 00:40:33,598 --> 00:40:37,661 -I saw the picture of Epstein and I recognized him directly... 818 00:40:37,685 --> 00:40:41,206 That he was the guy, you know, that I spoke to that night 819 00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:44,710 in... in the Brunel's place. 820 00:40:44,734 --> 00:40:48,088 -Brunel finally attracts the attention of authorities 821 00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:50,299 and in December of 2020, 822 00:40:50,323 --> 00:40:53,427 they arrest him for the alleged procurement of girls 823 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:56,055 to Jeffrey Epstein. 824 00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:57,473 -In his apartment, 825 00:40:57,497 --> 00:40:59,683 there were a lot of young 826 00:40:59,707 --> 00:41:02,102 Eastern European models, 827 00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:05,272 young girls, scouted by Brunel. 828 00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:09,401 They never told me in those words, 829 00:41:09,425 --> 00:41:11,278 but you felt that they were... 830 00:41:11,302 --> 00:41:13,697 That they didn't have the possibility 831 00:41:13,721 --> 00:41:17,326 to go back to their home country 832 00:41:17,350 --> 00:41:20,287 without, you know, money, without a career. 833 00:41:20,311 --> 00:41:23,415 So they were kind of stuck there. 834 00:41:23,439 --> 00:41:27,211 -In Milan, these clubs, they're so beautiful 835 00:41:27,235 --> 00:41:28,879 and so seductive. 836 00:41:28,903 --> 00:41:30,923 And then when you get to know the people 837 00:41:30,947 --> 00:41:33,133 who are sitting at these tables, the models, 838 00:41:33,157 --> 00:41:35,302 you see that they're poorly paid, 839 00:41:35,326 --> 00:41:36,970 some of them might be students, 840 00:41:36,994 --> 00:41:40,933 some of them don't have money for the taxi to get home. 841 00:41:40,957 --> 00:41:43,852 What looks really glamorous, in reality 842 00:41:43,876 --> 00:41:47,481 is a form of exploitative work. 843 00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:51,902 -Looking sexy maybe is like part of your job as a model, 844 00:41:51,926 --> 00:41:55,406 but sex is never part of the job. 845 00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:59,660 -With Brunel behind bars, all eyes turned to Gerard Marie, 846 00:41:59,684 --> 00:42:01,286 and in 2021, 847 00:42:01,310 --> 00:42:04,665 Marie is revisited by journalist Donal Maclntyre, 848 00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:07,751 {\an8}this time for "60 Minutes Australia." 849 00:42:07,775 --> 00:42:10,462 {\an8}-Ah, Mr. Marie! 850 00:42:10,486 --> 00:42:12,214 {\an8}Mr. Marie, call the police. Do you realize 851 00:42:12,238 --> 00:42:15,509 {\an8}the French prosecutors have got 14 women charging you, 852 00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:19,722 {\an8}making allegations for assault and sexual assault? 853 00:42:19,746 --> 00:42:21,265 -With an investigation underway 854 00:42:21,289 --> 00:42:23,600 and several of Gerard Marie's victims 855 00:42:23,624 --> 00:42:26,186 working with the police, those in the industry 856 00:42:26,210 --> 00:42:28,439 hope for a different future. 857 00:42:28,463 --> 00:42:34,069 {\an8}♪♪ 858 00:42:34,093 --> 00:42:38,115 -I don't think that you'll ever see a return 859 00:42:38,139 --> 00:42:40,701 to the Wild West atmosphere 860 00:42:40,725 --> 00:42:43,704 that lasted through the supermodel era. 861 00:42:43,728 --> 00:42:47,207 We're past that now. 862 00:42:47,231 --> 00:42:51,295 -The Me Too movement really changed everything 863 00:42:51,319 --> 00:42:54,465 as far as how we view sexual harassment, 864 00:42:54,489 --> 00:42:57,050 because now these stories will come out 865 00:42:57,074 --> 00:43:00,304 if you mess with a model or an actor. 866 00:43:00,328 --> 00:43:02,371 Now we have a platform. 867 00:43:04,707 --> 00:43:07,728 -Despite the lack of legal consequences for some, 868 00:43:07,752 --> 00:43:11,565 there is hope that exposure will protect the next generation. 869 00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:15,861 -Mothers, before they send their daughters to New York, Paris, 870 00:43:15,885 --> 00:43:18,363 London and Milan without a chaperone, 871 00:43:18,387 --> 00:43:22,075 can read "Model," which is still in print 25 years later; 872 00:43:22,099 --> 00:43:24,620 can watch TV, 873 00:43:24,644 --> 00:43:26,914 can watch vice documentaries, 874 00:43:26,938 --> 00:43:29,750 can hear the truth, 875 00:43:29,774 --> 00:43:31,293 and then make their minds up... 876 00:43:31,317 --> 00:43:33,712 "Are we going to throw our daughter in the deep end 877 00:43:33,736 --> 00:43:36,590 of this fetid pool or not?" 878 00:43:36,614 --> 00:43:40,052 You know, at least the information is out there now. 879 00:43:40,076 --> 00:43:46,099 {\an8}-The moment that I decided to... to come forward 880 00:43:46,123 --> 00:43:48,101 {\an8}and to tell my story was the moment 881 00:43:48,125 --> 00:43:50,229 {\an8}that I got my power back, you know, 882 00:43:50,253 --> 00:43:53,690 {\an8}and it felt empowering and also, uh... 883 00:43:53,714 --> 00:43:56,109 {\an8}Yeah, good to get the control back. 884 00:43:56,133 --> 00:44:04,133 {\an8}♪♪