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If I knew now the things I knew,

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that I know now, when I was young…

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…I wouldn't have made these mistakes.

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But I have really bad news for people.
You continue to make mistakes.

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It's not like you only make mistakes
until a certain age.

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You continue to make mistakes,
and you have less excuse,

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because it's very rare that you have
the opportunity when you're older

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to make a new mistake.

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So instead you find, "I can't believe
I made this mistake again."

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-[laughter]
-"Because I knew not to make…

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The first time I didn't know,"
and so you give yourself a pass.

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Then you think, "Let's face it. This is
the 16th time I've made the same mistake."

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And that really… The repeated mistake.
The same mistake over and over again,

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what it really just proves to you is
you're bad at that thing, whatever it is.

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[rock music plays]

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[Fran] Yes?

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[man] Does the possible
environmental apocalypse give you anxiety?

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[Fran] No. I'm not that young.

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-If there's an apocalypse…
-[laughter]

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You know, it's like… [Fran laughs]

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You know, I could afford to live,
like, maybe four more years.

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[laughter]

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If I knew there was gonna be
an apocalypse, one more year.

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[he laughs]

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♪ She's over by the corner ♪

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♪ Got her hands by her side ♪

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♪ They hit her harder, harder, harder ♪

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♪ Oh, till they thought she might die ♪

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♪ Well, I got a foggy notion
Do it again, uh ♪

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♪ Over by the corner ♪
Do it again ♪

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♪ I got my calamine lotion, baby
Do it again ♪

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♪ Well, I got a foggy notion
Do it again ♪

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Did we have this many people
Public Speaking?

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-[Martin] Uh…
-[Ted] No.

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-No.
-[Martin] No.

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[loud crash]

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[Ted] Well, it's a party now.

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[Martin] I can't believe it's nine,
ten years since we did that.

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-I suddenly turn around, it's ten years.
-It wasn't suddenly you turned around.

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[Martin] No. But it felt like,
every time, it's imminent.

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Are we on? Are we doing this now?

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-[Ted] Yeah.
-[Martin] Anything. We just keep rolling.

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-I didn't know that. When did we start?
-[Martin] When they broke the thing.

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And when the guys were talking and then
we came down. We're shooting everything.

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-[laughter]
-You're supposed to tell the person!

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-[Ted] Do you have a guilty pleasure?
-No. I have no guilty pleasures.

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Pleasure never makes me feel guilty.

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I think it's unbelievable that there's
such a phrase as "guilty pleasure."

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In other words…
Unless your pleasure is killing people.

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-[Martin laughs]
-But I mean, like, I would never feel…

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My pleasures are absolutely benign,
by which I mean no one dies, okay?

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No one is molested, you know?

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And I think, "No,
I don't feel guilty for having pleasure."

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We live in a world where people
don't feel guilty for killing people,

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people don't feel guilty for, like,
putting babies in cages at the border.

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People don't feel guilty for this,
but I should feel guilty for what?

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For having two bowls of spaghetti?
You know? For reading a mystery?

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Or people, their guilty pleasure
always is the enjoyment of some form

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that is not high art, you know?

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So if you say, "Well, I really like to,
you know, read a You're A Wolf book.

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That's supposed to be a guilty pleasure.
It's a pleasure. I don't feel guilty.

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And, you know, pleasure, to me,

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especially the older I get,
the more I think,

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-"Any fun you can have, friend, go ahead."
-[Martin laughs]

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"Go ahead. Have it."

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You know, I mean, um… That's how I feel.

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I've always been a fan of fun.
I think people should have fun

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as long as fun is not something
that's destructive to other people. Um…

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If someone's answer to me,
if I ask, "Why do you do that?"

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If they say, "I think it's fun,"
that's, to me, a good answer.

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A bad answer is, "You don't really see,
you know, how important this is…"

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That's a bad answer. But a good answer…
"It's fun," is a good answer.

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[classical music plays]

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[Fran] I like parties. This is the thing
you never hear anyone say.

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Everyone hates parties,
especially when they're at a party.

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"I don't care for these balls,
but one had to come for the girls."

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And people have often said about me,
while I'm sitting there,

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"Fran likes parties,"
like it's some incredibly weird thing.

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"Fran. You know Fran, she likes parties."

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I really like parties,
because parties are supposed to be fun.

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It's like movies when I was a kid.
Movies are good.

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Candy is good. Parties are good.

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I mean… [hesitates]
There's nothing wrong with parties!

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[classical music plays]

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I mean, the last time I saw The Leopard
was a less restored at the Ziegfeld.

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And when I went to see it at the Ziegfeld,
I was, if not the only person,

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one of a few people who were not
movie directors who were there.

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I looked around, and it was like
the last time I saw Richard Pryor.

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When I saw Richard Pryor at Town Hall,
everyone in the audience was a comedian.

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I went to see The Leopard,
everyone in the audience was a director.

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So you like films?

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Movies? I love movies.

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Do you go to the movie theater,
or you just watch them at home on DVDs?

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Well, as I said recently,
I don't go to the movie theater very much,

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because I cannot stand my fellow man.

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[audience laughs]

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-Talking to the screen and stuff?
-[Fran] Yeah.

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Talking on their phone, talking,
eating three-course steak dinners.

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-[audience laughs]
-I mean…

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I have a DVD player that someone gave me.

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-It's not hooked up to the television?
-No, it's…

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-Actually, Mr. Scorsese gave this to me.
-Right.

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It's a little one that you're supposed
to be able to just watch on your sofa,

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but it's pretty complicated.

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[audience laughs]

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-[woman] How did you two meet?
-[Fran] Oh, how did we meet?

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-Do you want to tell her?
-Do we know?

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-No. [laughs]
-No.

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[laughter]

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People have often asked me
how did I meet Marty, and I, um…

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I don't know.

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Um, and so I'm assuming
I met him at a party.

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And why do I think that?
Because I go to a lot of parties.

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-John Waters' 50th birthday party?
-No, I already knew you then.

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-You knew me before.
-Yeah.

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I do know that I knew Marty
for a long time before I knew him well,

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because although I go
to a lot more parties than Marty,

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which is why Marty's made a lot of movies,
and I haven't written a lot of books, and…

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[Martin laughs]

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But, you know, I did notice
that whenever I saw Marty at a party,

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we would spend the entire time
talking to each other.

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So I was up all night, Marty, because
I drank coffee all night last night.

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And that movie that I asked you about once

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with Cary Grant, called Penny Arcade,
was on in the middle of the night.

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Penny Serenade.

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-Yeah, Penny Serenade. You ever see this?
-[Ted] I've never seen it.

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There's no Cary Grant movie
where Cary Grant is less Cary Grant.

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[Martin] The thing was,
at that time, he was trying to do roles

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so that he could
break out of the Cary Grant persona.

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He only got one Academy Award nomination,
for None but the Lonely Heart.

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But in any event, that was an attempt.
George Stevens.

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[Fran] George Stevens, yeah.
I saw him once.

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I was walking down Madison Avenue.

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Must've been in the '80s.
He was an old man already.

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And I noticed as I was walking
down the street that people were stopped.

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And walking up Madison Avenue
is Cary Grant

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in a white linen suit
with his white linen hair,

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and he's, like, glowing.

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-[Martin] Mm-hmm.
-And he just… So I thought, "That's bad?"

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-[Martin laughs]
-I mean…

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[Martin] Okay. Allora.

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Andiamo. Run it.

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When I was a child,
air-conditioning was not that common,

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but it was common in movie theaters.

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And, in fact, movie theaters
had these, like, banners outside,

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with letters made to look like ice cubes,

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and it would say, you know, "Air-cooled,"
or, "Air-conditioned inside."

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[Martin] Cooled by refrigeration.

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And sometimes people would just say,
"It's so hot. Let's go to the movies."

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That would be
why you would go to the movies.

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So I did really love going to the movies,
but I can't say, you know…

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In fact, I can say quite emphatically
that I was no judge of them.

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I did not judge them.
I just thought, "Movies!"

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-[Martin laughs]
-You know, I mean, good!

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Is there any movie that,
when it's on television,

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you could watch it over and over again?

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Yes, there are many movies
that I like that much, for sure. Um…

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When I was a child, there was a TV show
called Million Dollar Movie,

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and it was a movie
that they showed every day.

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They'd show the same movie
every day for a week.

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So I started watching this movie
called The Boy with Green Hair.

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This was Monday.

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At exactly 7:30, about a half hour
into this movie, I had to go to bed.

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"Please can I see the--"
"No, you have to go to bed."

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For the entire week, five days,

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I watched the first half hour
of The Boy with Green Hair.

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I asked my mother within the last decade,
"Would it have killed you to let me see?"

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I was well into my forties before I saw
the end of The Boy with Green Hair.

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[audience laughs]

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I went to bed at 7:30, which is an early
bedtime, until I was about ten years old.

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I asked my mother,
"Why did you make me go to bed so early?"

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Because I blame this
for my lifelong insomnia.

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That I never went to bed when I was tired.
I was never tired at 7:30.

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"Why did I have to go to bed so early?"
And she said,

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"To tell you the truth, Francie, by 7:30,
I just couldn't listen to you anymore."

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[audience laughs]

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Hey, Gramp!

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[man] Aye, lad?

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[boy] I've got green hair.

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[Fran] Within this year,

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I was in the elevator
in my apartment building,

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and a little boy gets in with green hair.

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Not like a teenager who dyed his hair.

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But a boy who had a mother who not only
let him watch The Boy with Green Hair,

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but let him have green hair.

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He's like a seven-year-old boy.

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I looked at this little boy and said,
"I like your hair." He said, "Thank you."

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I said, "There's a movie called
The Boy with Green Hair. Did you see it?"

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He looked at me and went,
"No, there's not."

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[Martin] Mmm.

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I said, "Yes, there is."
He said, "No, there's not."

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I saw him a few days later,

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and I said, "There is a movie
called The Boy with Green Hair."

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He said, "I don't believe you."

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So I thought…

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I said, "Well, I'm sure you have
one of these modern devices. Look it up."

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Then I never saw him again.

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Here is something
that I actually saw in real life.

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I saw a little boy.
He must have been about four,

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which, in my opinion,
is too old to be in a stroller.

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And he had something,
a device of some sort,

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and his mother was pushing him.

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His actual mother, not a nanny,
was pushing him.

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He was looking, I guess, for directions,
and he said, "No, no, it's 23rd Street!"

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[laughs]

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[Fran] And I felt like saying, "Excuse me.

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If your son is old enough to navigate,
he's too old to be in the stroller."

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[Olivia] Yes.

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I think it's… I have no objection
to children doing this.

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Children, of course, are doing this,
because they've had it their whole lives.

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I don't think it's gonna change them,

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because they're not yet available
to be changed, you know?

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When I was a child, my father always said,
"We didn't have television."

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I found this to be of no interest.
"So you didn't have television."

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You know, I mean… "I do."
It was as simple as that, you know.

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[Ted] How do you get along
with young people?

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Well, it depends.

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I mean, little children, probably
not what you mean, I like very much.

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People are always shocked by this.
How much I like little kids.

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I like them because they're like
the least annoying group of people.

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People think they're the most annoying.
They can be very annoying, making noise.

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But they're the least annoying,
because they are the least likely

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to tell you something
you've heard a million times.

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They're not yet filled with clichés,
you know?

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So they're more original than adults.

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It gets taken out of them pretty quickly.

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And so they don't really know
what things are, so they make it up,

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you know, and they… Or they ask questions.

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They're generally not trying to convince
you they know something they don't know.

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You know, um…

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And I just find them very interesting.

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If you mean young people
like people in their twenties,

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I never really would've
thought about them.

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Even when I was that age,
I never really thought about it.

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Like some kid did come up to me once
outside a restaurant

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and said, "If you want to know
what millennials are thinking,

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here's my e-mail, and you can e-mail me."

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And I said, "Why would I wanna know this?"

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But I mean…
He said, "Well, a lot of people do."

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I said, "People trying to sell you stuff.
I'm not selling anything.

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If you have a company that's
trying to sell these people clothes

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or whatever, then yes,

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I'd like to know what you're thinking.
But why would you be the person,

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out of all the millions of people
who are 20?

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What are you, the designated 20-year-old?

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There's not many upsides to being old,
as we know, but here is one.

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When you read
we're gonna be out of water in 2050,

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you first think, "Oh my God!"

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And then you think, "2050? I'll be dead."

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[laughter]

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Let someone else worry about it!

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[laughter]

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I don't know if they do it to you,

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where you have your own
actually young child.

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I don't mean a little child,
but a teenager.

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But people that age, the age
of your daughter and somewhat older,

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very often approach me to ask me
my opinion of what they should do in life.

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Like, "Fran…" And I always think,
"First of all, I don't care what you do."

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[laughter]

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They're so used to being
the center of their parents' attention.

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Anyone they see that age, they think,
"Maybe they'll help me out."

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[he laughs]

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But that would be a mistake with me,
because, um…

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[laughter]

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But what they're always asking
is what kind of artist should they be?

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But they always say, "Do you think
I should be a writer or a filmmaker?"

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And I always think,
"If I were your age, I'd look for water."

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I think you should be whatever you call
a person who looks for water,

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because apparently…

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I don't know why we ran out of water,
but apparently we drank it all.

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You know?
It's like, "We didn't leave any for you."

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[gentle music plays]

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[man] ♪ We met at nine ♪

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[woman] ♪ We met at eight ♪

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[man] ♪ I was on time ♪

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[woman] ♪ No, you were late ♪

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[man] ♪ Ah, yes, I remember it well ♪

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-[man] ♪ We met at nine ♪
-[woman] ♪ We met at eight ♪

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-[man] ♪ I was on time ♪
-[woman] ♪ No, you were late ♪

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[man] ♪ Ah yes, I remember it well ♪

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[announcer] The Xerox
display typing system

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lets you create and revise information
right on a screen

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before it's committed to paper,

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and will remember it all,
even if you don't.

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[both] ♪ Ah, yes, I remember it well

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With texting and social networking,

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e-mailing, phone calls,
how are you with that?

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Are you a texter or you talk on the phone?

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I am none of these things.

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-None?
-No. I don't have a computer.

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I don't have an iPhone
or a cellphone, iPad.

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-No cellphone?
-I have a regular phone.

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I have an address. That is sufficient.

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When they first invented computers…

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I mean, computers in people's houses, um…

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They were called word processors,

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and a friend of mine got one
and said, "You have to see this."

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I went to her house
and she showed me this thing.

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What it looked like to me,
and what it was at the time,

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was a very fast kind of typewriter.

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-Yeah.
-I didn't have a typewriter.

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I never had the old machines.
So I didn't have a typewriter,

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I wrote with a ballpoint pen.

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I thought, "I don't need this.
It's a fast typewriter.

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I don't even have a typewriter.
I don't know how to type.

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So I'm not getting into this."

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So, of course, not knowing…

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I didn't know the whole world
would go into this machine.

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-You know…
-[Martin laughs]

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So it did, but it was little by little.
I wasn't really noticing it.

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And now the whole world is in it,
and now people say,

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"And now you don't know
about these things," you know?

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But it isn't true, because people
constantly tell me about these things.

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So I know about these things.
I know as much as I want to.

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I know more than I want to.
To me, it's like the Kardashians.

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-[Martin] Yeah, I know.
-You know?

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I've never seen the Kardashians,
but I know about the Kardashians, okay?

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And that's how I feel about the Internet,
which I know…

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…in some way,
is connected to the Kardashians.

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[laughter and applause]

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All the things I know about the Internet

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are either things that people have told me
or showed me,

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because people are always acting like,

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"Poor Fran, she has no ability
to find this out. Let me show you, Fran."

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These are people,
I don't even know them half the time,

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so I'm delighted to see them
approaching me like this.

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But in the last week, two different
people, both younger than me,

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but one not much younger than me
and one much younger than me,

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one explained to me what Instagram was…

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…and the other explained to me
what Twitter was.

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And it made me so angry that I said,

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"Let me explain something to you.

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I don't not have these things
'cause I don't know what they are.

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00:17:26,962 --> 00:17:29,592
I don't have these things
'cause I do know what they are.

335
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That's why I don't have them."

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00:17:31,675 --> 00:17:35,135
So I was at a dinner party recently,
and someone was…

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There was an art dealer there.
In fact, it was his dinner.

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And he was saying that people are buying
art on the Internet and that's ridiculous,

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they don't have the experience of the art
if you buy it from the Internet.

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It's not a real art experience. I said,
"To you, it's not a real art experience.

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To people who do this,
that is their experience.

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That's what they care about."

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These are new people.
These are different people.

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They're people who call people friends
who they've never met.

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He goes, "They're not really friends."
To them, they are.

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I mean, we had a huge sex scandal here
with Anthony Weiner.

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-There was no sex.
-Yeah.

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-He lost his career in a sex scandal--
-[Olivia laughs]

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-And he didn't even get laid!
-And he didn't have sex.

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-[Olivia] Yeah.
-To me, that was astonishing.

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I mean,
if you are going to lose your career…

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At least in a sex scandal,
when you lose your career, you have sex.

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[Olivia laughs] Yeah. It's true!

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So we have sex scandals with no sex,
friendships with no friends,

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art that they don't see.

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So this is basically
a completely different sort of person.

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[woman] Okay, I have a sister who's two,
turning three, and she has her own iPad,

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and she uses this all the time.
I don't even have an iPad.

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Do you think this will take away from how
she interacts with people in the future?

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Do you think this is kind of foreshadowing
future generations?

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She said she has a sister who's two,
who has her own iPad,

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and she doesn't even have an iPad.

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-Your parents like her better.
-[woman] I know.

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00:18:55,676 --> 00:18:59,716
Okay? I mean, I am not really worried
about the people who are two

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because the people who are two,
I will not have to deal with those people.

366
00:19:03,684 --> 00:19:06,774
I'm more worried
about the people who are 22. Okay?

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00:19:06,854 --> 00:19:11,654
So, yes, she will be different,
that is true. But she may not be worse.

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She may be better. We don't know this.

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It's possible this will make them better.

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It'll make them better at the world
of iPads, because that will be the world.

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I believe

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that you can only really understand
people that are your contemporaries.

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That you can't really understand
people who are not.

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And so that, uh, you can…

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I profoundly understand
some people my age.

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I mean just from looking at them.

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And when I say my age, I mean
within ten years of my age either way.

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I know what their clothes mean.

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I know what they think their clothes mean.

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I know what they think they mean
when they tell me what music they like

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or what books they like.

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But I don't know this
with people who are young.

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The thing about young people
is that they all just seem young.

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And that is a really kind of ridiculous
way to categorize someone.

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[bear grunts]

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[grunts noisily]

387
00:20:13,378 --> 00:20:15,008
[growls]

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When I was young,
I used to travel quite a bit.

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I used to enjoy it more than I do now.

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00:20:33,649 --> 00:20:35,439
Once, I went on this trip to Alaska,

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and we went to this park
called the Glacier National Park.

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So I hired this guy, his name was Bruce,
who is either a bear hunting guide

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or, if you just want to take a hike
and maybe see some bears,

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you can also hire Bruce,
and you don't have to kill the bears.

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So we're setting off on this hike.
There's, like, eight of us.

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I am maybe the least athletic,

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but it's not the heartiest group of people
on the planet Earth.

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So then Bruce brings us all together
and explains about the bears.

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"Now, if you see a bear,"
he said, "don't run…

400
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…because bears can run,"
I can't remember, "60 miles an hour.

401
00:21:17,901 --> 00:21:19,701
There's no way you'll outrun a bear,

402
00:21:20,195 --> 00:21:24,115
and the bear will then catch you
and eat you, so don't run.

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00:21:24,908 --> 00:21:26,658
Just stay there,

404
00:21:27,411 --> 00:21:28,661
stand on your toes,

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00:21:29,204 --> 00:21:31,924
put your hands in the air, and sing."

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00:21:33,583 --> 00:21:37,303
Because the singing
is to make the bear think, "What is this?"

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00:21:37,921 --> 00:21:41,261
And this has nothing to do, apparently,
with what a good singer you are.

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00:21:41,341 --> 00:21:45,471
"And then the bear will, like, go away,"
says Bruce.

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00:21:46,179 --> 00:21:47,309
So I said, "Bruce,

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let me assure you
that if I saw bear, I would run,

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because I would not have
the presence of mind.

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00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:57,649
You need
an incredible amount of discipline,

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seeing a bear
and standing there and singing!

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00:22:00,777 --> 00:22:03,447
This is not me.
I would panic. I would run."

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00:22:03,530 --> 00:22:05,700
He said,
"You would be attacked by the bear."

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00:22:06,283 --> 00:22:10,413
Now, Bruce had this giant gun
in his holster. I'm not kidding.

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00:22:10,495 --> 00:22:12,245
Like a holster, this big gun.

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And so we start the hike.

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It was a time of year

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when salmon swim a certain direction.

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-And the bears eat the salmon.
-[Martin] A big deal.

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00:22:23,884 --> 00:22:26,934
And these streams
were filled with ripped-up salmon.

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00:22:27,971 --> 00:22:29,681
You know, on the one hand,

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it was some sort of incredibly,
you know, natural Russ & Daughters.

425
00:22:34,102 --> 00:22:39,402
And on the other side, it was like
you see that bears, they're like people.

426
00:22:39,483 --> 00:22:43,283
When there's so much extra stuff,
they just say, "This is the part I want."

427
00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:46,622
Because they were ripped up,
like… "This? No, I don't like this."

428
00:22:46,698 --> 00:22:47,618
It was just like,

429
00:22:47,699 --> 00:22:50,989
"I don't know. I don't want that.
You want this part? I don't want that."

430
00:22:51,078 --> 00:22:53,618
There were hundreds
of these ripped-up salmon.

431
00:22:53,705 --> 00:22:56,745
The whole thing was terrifying,
but at a certain point…

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00:22:56,833 --> 00:22:59,963
I kept saying, "You see a bear, Bruce?
Do you see any bears?

433
00:23:00,045 --> 00:23:03,255
Bruce, these salmons were ripped up.
They were ripped up by a bear."

434
00:23:03,965 --> 00:23:06,755
I was in a state of hysteria.
Really worried.

435
00:23:06,843 --> 00:23:09,183
So I was on top of Bruce.

436
00:23:09,971 --> 00:23:13,931
I had my hand on his shoulder.
I had my other hand around his waist.

437
00:23:14,017 --> 00:23:16,017
He would stop, I would stop. "Bruce!"

438
00:23:16,103 --> 00:23:19,943
If he went two feet away from me,
I would go, "Bruce? Where are you, Bruce?"

439
00:23:20,023 --> 00:23:22,233
And then Bruce said, "Fran…"

440
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:25,070
He was quite exasperated with me.

441
00:23:25,153 --> 00:23:28,243
He said, "Fran,
I feel I have to tell you something."

442
00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:31,120
I think, "He's gonna say
there's a bear right there."

443
00:23:31,201 --> 00:23:34,081
He goes, "I have to tell you something.
I'm a married man."

444
00:23:35,956 --> 00:23:39,246
I said, "What?" He said, "I'm married.
I just want you to know that."

445
00:23:39,334 --> 00:23:44,344
I said, "The reason I'm on top of you
is not because I find you irresistible.

446
00:23:44,423 --> 00:23:46,683
-It is because you have a gun."
-[Martin laughs]

447
00:23:46,758 --> 00:23:49,088
"And because I feel that,
if we saw a bear,

448
00:23:49,177 --> 00:23:52,677
you would not stand on your toes
and sing, you would shoot the bear.

449
00:23:52,764 --> 00:23:54,894
It's what I want to happen
if there's a bear."

450
00:23:55,475 --> 00:23:58,845
I don't ever want to die
in a way that is amusing to other people.

451
00:23:58,937 --> 00:24:02,227
Because I know
that if I was eaten by a bear,

452
00:24:02,315 --> 00:24:05,985
that instead of people, when they heard
about this, thinking, "That is horrible,"

453
00:24:06,069 --> 00:24:09,409
they would think, "Isn't that hilarious?
Fran was eaten by a bear!

454
00:24:09,489 --> 00:24:11,369
Of all the people to be eaten by a bear!"

455
00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:15,080
And I thought, like,
"I do not want my death to be hilarious."

456
00:24:15,162 --> 00:24:18,082
-[Martin laughs] It's funny.
-Yeah, it would be funny, you know?

457
00:24:18,165 --> 00:24:22,205
And if I wasn't Fran and I heard that,
I would think, "That is really hilarious."

458
00:24:22,294 --> 00:24:23,964
But I don't want to die like that.

459
00:24:24,671 --> 00:24:27,721
I don't know what you asked me,
but that's the story of the bear.

460
00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:34,429
["La Dolce Vita (Finale)" plays]

461
00:24:38,435 --> 00:24:40,555
No one young enough to be in school…

462
00:24:41,521 --> 00:24:44,071
…is aware that they will lose their looks,
okay?

463
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:46,489
This is something that doesn't happen
till you do.

464
00:24:46,568 --> 00:24:48,858
-[laughter]
-Okay? Because…

465
00:24:48,945 --> 00:24:52,235
Like, if I see someone
that I haven't seen in a long time,

466
00:24:52,324 --> 00:24:54,744
I think, "What the hell happened to you?"

467
00:24:55,243 --> 00:24:59,333
You know? And I realize that they're
thinking the same thing about me.

468
00:25:00,081 --> 00:25:02,081
The only reason
I don't think that about me

469
00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:03,747
is because I see myself every day.

470
00:25:04,294 --> 00:25:06,594
Although as briefly as possible.
But I mean…

471
00:25:06,671 --> 00:25:09,761
I found these contact sheets
that were from a shoot for Vogue.

472
00:25:09,841 --> 00:25:12,221
And I see that I had written all over it.

473
00:25:12,302 --> 00:25:14,602
I'd sent it back to Anna Wintour
and I'd written,

474
00:25:14,679 --> 00:25:17,969
"Anna, these photographs are horrible.
We have to re-shoot this."

475
00:25:18,058 --> 00:25:21,188
I looked at them and thought,
"If I woke up today looking like this,

476
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:22,399
I'd be ecstatic!"

477
00:25:22,479 --> 00:25:24,019
[laughter]