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[Sophia babbling]

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MAN: There's this thing inside
of me, it's like...

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the appetite.

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It's like a wolf that's...

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filling... the hunger.

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MAN: Our communication
center received

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a call that there was two dead
children inside the department.

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WOMAN: Neighbors identified
the little girls as Serena

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and Sophia,

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and their mother was the one who

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called police to their
4th floor apartment.

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DETECTIVE: Okay?

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MORGAN: In a nutshell,
I don't believe her.

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Amnesia doesn't work that way.

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It's not persuasive,
but that seems to be

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her narrative she's presenting
is everything was normal.

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She almost sounds childlike
herself, helpless, frail.

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I think it was this
vacillation between trying to

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decide if she wanted to come
across as mentally unstable,

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that she had no memory of what
she did, to really dissociating

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and not wanting to face

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the emotional reality that
she's killed her children.

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TUSSEY:
I would scream.

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Most people would have a much
more extreme reaction

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to first hearing that

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if they really believed two
seconds ago that they were just

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with their dad.

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Even though she's crying,
she's relatively calm.

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So that is very striking
about her reaction.

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I'm a little skeptical about
the authenticity of it.

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MORGAN: With people who have
psychopathy, we'll often see

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a meager effort at the display
of emotion.

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Sometimes a feigned
effort if they

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can't muster enough of
a feeling.

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SAHNI: What she's describing is
postmortem effects for

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the children, and yet

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she's talking about them like
they're alive and they're

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just injured.

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So there's a complete
disconnect there.

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What we know is that
after she drowned them,

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she dressed them in pretty
little princess dresses, and she

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did up their hair, and she made

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them look beautiful, and then
she put them to bed, dead.

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It's creepy on a lot of levels.

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Her ability to objectify her
children and maintain her own

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narrative that was
not based in reality

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allowed her
to drown each of them.

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SAHNI:
Make no mistake.

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She never misses a beat
to stay in control of

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the interview, she never misses
a beat to exert her legal right.

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She's quite clear and definite
about that.

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When you see that switch

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so automatically, that is more
consistent with psychopathic

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behavior than a broken,
psychologically frail

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individual who has just
lost her two daughters.

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TUSSEY: Her lack of
an answer is telling.

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I think that her plan
was to kill

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herself with the pills,
and it didn't work.

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I don't think that she had
really thought

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beyond what would happen if
she didn't die.

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Sometimes when psychopaths
entertain suicide,

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it's because they want
to have the final say.

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[Sophia babbling]

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She made a video
on the day of their death.

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It's probably not an accident.

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The Sleeping Beauty
is playing for the kids.

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This doesn't bode well.

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Sleeping Beauty is the story
of a wonderful young woman

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who can't wake up

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until she's kissed by
the handsome prince to come out

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of her state of sleep
that's induced by the witch.

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Consistent with that,
once they're dead

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she dresses them up
and lays them

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out so they are little
sleeping beauties.

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SAHNI: She made a strategic,
calculated decision to

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videotape her children in
their last moments.

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She's documenting what
a fantastic mother

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she was,
and yet she drowns them.

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Elaine Campione is somebody
who is fused with her children.

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Her ego,

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her internal sense of self,
is anchored by the existence

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and the narrative of,
"I am a perfect mother."

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Hi!

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She's speaking with
positive affect.

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She has love in her voice
and what

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she's saying to them,
that mommy loves you.

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She's joking with them.

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Uh, there's a total disconnect.

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SAHNI: Ultimately, this was
a case of revenge.

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This is
Elaine Campione's narrative.

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Elaine is a perfect mother.

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Elaine is the only one who can
take care of her children.

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Many parents hate each other.

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You know, and want to get back
at one another,

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even use their kids
as pawns to get back,

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but they don't kill them.

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MORGAN: It sounds like it had
been a difficult relationship,

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but she's used her kids as
a weapon in that way to punish

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her husband.

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The psychopathic part is viewing

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the children as the implements.

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Her tone is less irate
in this video.

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It's as if she's woken
up unexpectedly,

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perhaps because she thought
she was going to die,

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and she is trying
to come to terms with this.

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When we think of parents who
are psychologically fused with

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their children, those children

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are their anchors
for their personality.

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I think what we're seeing is
the beginnings

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of the unraveling,
because her anchor is gone.

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She's killed them.
She's more broken.

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This is a lot of fractured,
damaged personality structure.

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She's two very different
people in many ways.

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You have this woman who is
presenting herself as very

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frail and beaten down.

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But then on the other hand,

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she's clearly very much in
control of her decisions.

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WOMAN: Legal papers were also
found advising Campione

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to appear in court for
a child custody hearing

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October 5th, the day after
the girls' bodies

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were discovered.

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Leo Campione was trying to
get custody

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of the girls at the time
they were killed.

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TUSSEY: The custody aspect is
a key element in this.

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So it's possible that she saw
this as her only option to

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ensure definitively that
he would not get to be

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with the girls.

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And her response to it is
"I'll take them,

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and you won't ever
get them."

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That's her power.

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This was a note that
Elaine took the time to write.

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It was directed
at her husband, and it says,

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"All I wanted was a way out.

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"The system failed.

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"I was a great mother, and you
wouldn't leave me alone.

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"I had to protect our girls.

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"They will sail away
from this and all of you.

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I hate you."

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Her narrative is
that she's actually doing

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something
that's incredibly altruistic,

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and she's making it clear to
her husband

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that he caused this.

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It's not her who drowned them.
He pushed her to do this.

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WOMAN: Doctors' notes revealed
that Campione was having

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trouble seeing herself and
children as separate entities.

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These pictures were used by
the defense as evidence.

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Campione apparently told
her mother to take it,

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saying she loved her kids
and was fearful

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there would be no memory of her.

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Campione's lawyer argues her
client is mentally ill,

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that she suffered from
delusions and paranoia

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and didn't feel
she or her children were safe.

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Once she had a goal
in mind, which was to kill them,

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to take them away from
her husband,

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she's very systematic about
how she goes about that goal.

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That's highly inconsistent
with how people who experience

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delusions and paranoia behave.

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She as a psychopathic
as she feels.

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She is self-righteous,
she feels vindicated.

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She did something that no
parent had the courage to do.

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WOMAN: The jury didn't

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but the defense argument that
it was mental illness that

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made her do it and not

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a bitter custody
dispute with her ex-husband.

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WOMAN: Elaine Campione sobbed
uncontrollably as the jury

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announced a guilty verdict.

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Her tears then turned to anger
as she swore before being

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handcuffed and hauled out of
the courtroom.

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There's where you see
the self-righteousness,

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there's where you see
the attitude of, "Why am I being

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"hauled out in handcuffs?

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I did what was
the right thing to do,"

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and it was the most protective
thing she could do for

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her daughters, because she is
a perfect mother,

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and mommy loves you.

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♪♪