1 00:00:02,736 --> 00:00:10,736 [eerie music] 2 00:00:19,819 --> 00:00:27,819 ♪ 3 00:00:27,927 --> 00:00:29,328 [gunshots blasting] 4 00:00:30,430 --> 00:00:32,531 [dial tone] 5 00:00:41,808 --> 00:00:49,808 ♪ 6 00:01:01,828 --> 00:01:06,398 [eerie piano playing] 7 00:01:14,074 --> 00:01:16,175 MAN: There's this thing inside of me, it's like... 8 00:01:16,242 --> 00:01:18,477 the appetite. 9 00:01:18,545 --> 00:01:20,212 It's like a wolf that's... 10 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,083 filling... the hunger. 11 00:01:24,150 --> 00:01:28,954 ♪ 12 00:01:29,022 --> 00:01:35,994 ♪ 13 00:01:36,062 --> 00:01:38,297 WOMAN: A deadly shooting tonight in the parking lot 14 00:01:38,364 --> 00:01:40,065 of this local shopping center. 15 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:42,968 Authorities say two of the gyms, employees were 16 00:01:43,036 --> 00:01:45,838 gunned down after closing for the night. 17 00:01:45,905 --> 00:01:48,173 J.C. Escamilla, who was escorting 18 00:01:48,241 --> 00:01:52,044 Maggie McCombs to her car, died instantly. 19 00:01:52,112 --> 00:01:55,781 21-year-old Maggie McCombs is in critical condition. 20 00:01:57,250 --> 00:01:59,384 [distant siren wailing] 21 00:02:13,967 --> 00:02:16,001 There was a brief scuffle. 22 00:02:16,069 --> 00:02:19,037 The suspect apparently was trying to get 23 00:02:19,105 --> 00:02:21,173 to a gun that was in his waistband. 24 00:02:21,241 --> 00:02:23,742 Officers subdued him, and they 25 00:02:23,810 --> 00:02:25,344 brought him downtown for questioning. 26 00:02:25,411 --> 00:02:27,679 WOMAN: Hey, Yu, tell us what happened. 27 00:02:27,747 --> 00:02:28,914 What happened there? 28 00:02:31,050 --> 00:02:32,551 Can you tell us what happened? 29 00:02:32,619 --> 00:02:33,919 Tell us about the girl. 30 00:04:06,379 --> 00:04:10,549 Some people, if they have blood on them, want to show it off, 31 00:04:10,617 --> 00:04:12,184 but he never brings it up. 32 00:04:12,252 --> 00:04:14,820 These external things in the world don't really 33 00:04:14,887 --> 00:04:17,322 concern him -- He views people as separate 34 00:04:17,357 --> 00:04:20,325 and distant from himself in the world. 35 00:04:20,393 --> 00:04:22,194 SAHNI: He's totally matter-of-fact, as if they're 36 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:24,696 not talking about a shooting of two human beings. 37 00:04:24,764 --> 00:04:27,132 It's really more like, hey, I went out hunting for her, 38 00:04:27,166 --> 00:04:29,301 and I caught her -- That's very consistent with 39 00:04:29,369 --> 00:04:30,302 psychopathic behavior. 40 00:04:30,370 --> 00:04:33,005 He just has no value for human life. 41 00:05:24,190 --> 00:05:26,925 He's trying to tell her, "I'm fine." 42 00:05:28,394 --> 00:05:31,630 People who suffer from psychopathy 43 00:05:31,664 --> 00:05:33,999 know that they are different. 44 00:05:34,067 --> 00:05:37,302 He's discussing it as he would any other topic 45 00:05:37,370 --> 00:05:43,275 and without any sadness or any anger or any excitement. 46 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:46,378 It's simply a description of events. 47 00:06:06,599 --> 00:06:08,066 Yu Masaki doesn't B.S. 48 00:06:08,134 --> 00:06:10,702 and doesn't lie, because it has no meaning. 49 00:06:10,770 --> 00:06:13,805 There's no thrill in it for him 50 00:06:13,873 --> 00:06:16,408 to lie to the police officer. 51 00:06:16,476 --> 00:06:19,811 He represents one of the more extreme forms of psychopathy 52 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:23,315 in that he doesn't even derive pleasure from his interactions. 53 00:07:11,798 --> 00:07:13,198 SAHNI: Masaki is asked a question, 54 00:07:13,232 --> 00:07:15,200 and he turns himself into the victim. 55 00:07:15,268 --> 00:07:17,769 This is somebody who has a lot of self-loathing. 56 00:07:17,837 --> 00:07:20,972 He looks depressed. He sounds depressed. 57 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,676 This is somebody who just doesn't have a lot of purpose. 58 00:07:24,744 --> 00:07:28,680 MORGAN: Not only is there no point to Yu Masaki's life, 59 00:07:28,748 --> 00:07:30,015 from his own viewpoint, 60 00:07:30,082 --> 00:07:33,084 there's no point to anyone else's life either. 61 00:09:02,074 --> 00:09:04,809 Masaki's own brother identified when they were children 62 00:09:04,877 --> 00:09:06,311 that he was different. 63 00:09:06,379 --> 00:09:07,879 He was having problems then. 64 00:09:07,947 --> 00:09:12,017 He was showing antisocial behavior then, 65 00:09:12,084 --> 00:09:14,619 enough so that his brother said to him, 66 00:09:14,687 --> 00:09:16,888 "You're gonna be a criminal." 67 00:09:16,956 --> 00:09:21,660 MORGAN: He's definitely blaming society for not accepting him. 68 00:09:21,727 --> 00:09:24,629 But we can't attribute all of his feelings about life, 69 00:09:24,664 --> 00:09:27,465 the universe, and everything to just being in the United States 70 00:09:27,533 --> 00:09:31,269 and not speaking English as well as everyone else. 71 00:09:31,337 --> 00:09:34,339 In trying to understand why do people become psychopaths, 72 00:09:34,407 --> 00:09:36,875 we do think about the chicken and egg problem. 73 00:09:36,976 --> 00:09:41,680 So the nature-nurture dynamic of what were we born with in 74 00:09:41,747 --> 00:09:45,016 life and how did early experiences 75 00:09:45,084 --> 00:09:48,186 shape or enhance or reduce those capacities? 76 00:09:48,254 --> 00:09:51,323 There are some people who may be born 77 00:09:51,390 --> 00:09:54,426 with some biological characteristics that predispose 78 00:09:54,493 --> 00:09:56,194 them to psychopathy. 79 00:10:05,771 --> 00:10:13,771 ♪ 80 00:10:25,791 --> 00:10:33,791 ♪ 81 00:10:43,442 --> 00:10:51,442 ♪ 82 00:10:53,386 --> 00:10:55,854 It's interesting that the detective pushes him 83 00:10:55,988 --> 00:10:57,088 a little bit on that and says, 84 00:10:57,156 --> 00:10:59,891 "Do you know that she was laughing at you?" 85 00:11:00,026 --> 00:11:01,526 He kind of says, "I don't know." 86 00:11:01,594 --> 00:11:06,097 He holds these wounds so strongly to himself and clearly 87 00:11:06,165 --> 00:11:09,534 uses them as his justification for how he's ended up here. 88 00:11:09,602 --> 00:11:14,272 He experiences a level of rage or anger or chronic rejection, 89 00:11:14,340 --> 00:11:15,974 and he doesn't really have 90 00:11:16,042 --> 00:11:19,744 the skills to work through those emotions. 91 00:11:19,812 --> 00:11:22,213 So then the emotions just build up and build up 92 00:11:22,281 --> 00:11:23,415 and build up, 93 00:11:23,482 --> 00:11:26,117 and it may very well have come bubbling up at the point 94 00:11:26,185 --> 00:11:29,254 that Maggie McCombs rejected him. 95 00:12:57,877 --> 00:12:59,711 MORGAN: He's saying, "I can't make this work, 96 00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:01,146 so why should you?" 97 00:13:01,213 --> 00:13:04,315 This was his idealized woman, and the other guy 98 00:13:04,383 --> 00:13:08,553 just represents the deficits that he struggles with. 99 00:13:08,621 --> 00:13:10,688 He represents the example of what I'm not, 100 00:13:10,756 --> 00:13:12,824 so it reminds me of how much I can't do, 101 00:13:12,826 --> 00:13:15,059 so I'll shoot him. 102 00:13:15,127 --> 00:13:17,729 MAN: Friends and investigators say Masaki was obsessed with 103 00:13:17,797 --> 00:13:19,430 Maggie McCombs and had been stalking her 104 00:13:19,465 --> 00:13:20,732 for more than a year. 105 00:13:20,766 --> 00:13:23,067 He'd shown up to her front door at home and was eventually 106 00:13:23,135 --> 00:13:25,303 told to never come back to this Planet Fitness 107 00:13:25,371 --> 00:13:26,838 after his repeated, quote, 108 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,508 "extremely aggressive advances" were turned down by Maggie. 109 00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:06,644 It might seem like a bit of a paradox. 110 00:14:06,712 --> 00:14:09,747 So how could he long after this woman if 111 00:14:09,815 --> 00:14:12,517 he's at the extreme end of psychopathy with no empathy? 112 00:14:12,585 --> 00:14:16,487 And that's because it's about the world inside his head. 113 00:14:16,555 --> 00:14:20,358 It's not really about a relationship with her. 114 00:14:20,426 --> 00:14:24,329 It's whatever she represents inside his head. 115 00:14:24,396 --> 00:14:27,866 They didn't go out socially, they weren't friends. 116 00:14:27,967 --> 00:14:30,301 He wouldn't have had many opportunities outside of 117 00:14:30,369 --> 00:14:34,739 his own stalking behavior to learn who Maggie was. 118 00:14:34,807 --> 00:14:36,274 So to say that he's in love with her -- 119 00:14:36,342 --> 00:14:39,644 He's in love with a concept, he's in love with an obsession. 120 00:15:10,976 --> 00:15:15,747 His comments carry that feeling of this existential 121 00:15:15,814 --> 00:15:20,351 recognition of the emptiness and meaninglessness of life. 122 00:15:20,419 --> 00:15:23,087 I think this represents that, um, 123 00:15:23,155 --> 00:15:25,189 psychopathic disconnectedness. 124 00:15:25,257 --> 00:15:29,160 SAHNI: Masaki really is helping to connect the dots for us, 125 00:15:29,228 --> 00:15:32,096 that some of his rage and his anger and feeling 126 00:15:32,164 --> 00:15:35,867 rejected by Maggie stems from his anger at his mother. 127 00:15:35,968 --> 00:15:38,303 [eerie music playing] 128 00:16:47,439 --> 00:16:51,309 So this is a psychiatric evaluation that was 129 00:16:51,377 --> 00:16:55,246 performed on Masaki after the shooting and the murder. 130 00:16:55,314 --> 00:16:58,182 His mother allowed him to do what he wanted because 131 00:16:58,250 --> 00:17:01,719 of his reactivity when he did not get his way. 132 00:17:01,787 --> 00:17:04,922 He admits to not speaking and having outbursts 133 00:17:05,024 --> 00:17:08,126 of anger many times directed to his mother 134 00:17:08,193 --> 00:17:09,827 since childhood. 135 00:17:09,895 --> 00:17:12,864 The outbursts of anger would sometimes be destructive, 136 00:17:12,931 --> 00:17:16,601 destroying property or threatening harm. 137 00:17:16,668 --> 00:17:18,636 Sometimes it was directed to self -- 138 00:17:18,704 --> 00:17:20,505 Banging his head against the wall. 139 00:17:22,074 --> 00:17:23,875 Sounds like maybe she was frightened or she didn't 140 00:17:23,976 --> 00:17:26,644 want to have to deal with the demonstrations of anger. 141 00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:29,881 But he learns, "I get what I want by insisting." 142 00:17:32,184 --> 00:17:34,685 And we see that in his behavior with Maggie. 143 00:17:34,687 --> 00:17:38,689 She keeps saying no, but he goes, "No, I'm just persisting. 144 00:17:38,691 --> 00:17:40,191 I'm gonna get what I want." 145 00:17:40,225 --> 00:17:43,261 And that feeds right into that obsession with her. 146 00:18:31,543 --> 00:18:33,845 You get a little window into what kind of behavior 147 00:18:33,912 --> 00:18:35,713 might have been modeled for him by his father, 148 00:18:35,781 --> 00:18:38,216 that it was okay to treat women this way, and it was okay 149 00:18:38,283 --> 00:18:39,750 to not tolerate rejection, 150 00:18:39,818 --> 00:18:42,120 and you should always get what you want. 151 00:18:42,187 --> 00:18:44,455 Children that grow up around violence 152 00:18:44,523 --> 00:18:46,657 learn to use it as problem-solving. 153 00:18:46,725 --> 00:18:48,593 MORGAN: And if we happen to be 154 00:18:48,660 --> 00:18:51,629 biologically predisposed to psychopathy, 155 00:18:51,697 --> 00:18:54,465 it just shunts us down that road even further. 156 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:58,169 So it's possible with Yu Masaki that his early 157 00:18:58,237 --> 00:19:02,006 experience simply gave him a further kick in the direction 158 00:19:02,074 --> 00:19:04,976 of being distant, aloof, separate, 159 00:19:05,043 --> 00:19:08,412 not needing as much of a relationship from other people. 160 00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:20,258 I remember everything... 161 00:19:20,325 --> 00:19:23,928 pretty well, details. 162 00:19:24,029 --> 00:19:26,330 There's days where I just... 163 00:19:26,365 --> 00:19:30,801 I wake up and I just kind of wonder why this happened. 164 00:19:30,869 --> 00:19:33,704 I wanted to make it through this, and I wanted to be 165 00:19:33,772 --> 00:19:38,442 able to live and just have the life that I've always wanted. 166 00:19:47,386 --> 00:19:50,454 MAN: 28-year-old Yu Masaki flashes a smile before 167 00:19:50,489 --> 00:19:51,989 shuffling up to the judge, 168 00:19:52,057 --> 00:19:54,759 ready to enter pleas for the murder of 31-year-old 169 00:19:54,826 --> 00:19:57,261 J.C. Escamilla and aggravated assault 170 00:19:57,329 --> 00:19:59,430 of 21-year-old Maggie McCombs. 171 00:19:59,464 --> 00:20:01,065 How do you plead? Guilty? Not guilt? 172 00:20:01,099 --> 00:20:02,800 - Or no contest? - Guilty. 173 00:20:02,868 --> 00:20:04,635 Throughout the interrogation, 174 00:20:04,703 --> 00:20:08,172 he is flat, there's no emotion. 175 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,175 But here, Yu Masaki, we see him 176 00:20:11,243 --> 00:20:14,278 sauntering up to the judge's bench. 177 00:20:14,346 --> 00:20:17,248 It's the most emotion we've seen out of him so far. 178 00:20:17,316 --> 00:20:19,750 He's smiling, he's suddenly important. 179 00:20:19,818 --> 00:20:21,385 He's relevant. 180 00:20:21,453 --> 00:20:23,988 People see him, people hear him, and I think 181 00:20:24,022 --> 00:20:26,157 that's ultimately what Yu Masaki was after, 182 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:28,192 and he got what he wanted.