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Oh, great. [laughs]
My name is Michael Roth.

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I'm Connecticut's most
heinous killer. [laughs]

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I'm not a big serial killer,
by the way.

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Eight people.
That's nothing major.

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There's a lot of other guys
you can go see.

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You know, punchy. [laughs]

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There's nothing
they could have said or done.

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It was me. It wasn't them.

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They were dead as soon
as I saw them, I think.

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MAN: There's this thing inside
of me, it's like...

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the appetite.

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It's like a wolf that's...

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filling... the hunger.

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TUSSEY: Some have
actually referred to

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psychopathy
as the mask of sanity.

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He is able to fool people into
thinking that he's a nice guy.

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You can see there's a glibness,
a superficial charm to him.

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He makes you want to listen to
what he has to say

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as if he's describing a TV show.

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But what he's actually
describing, obviously,

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is his sadism.

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The fantasies,
when I was younger,

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the earliest ones I can
remember is I would kidnap

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women and take them
to my safe place.

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And then they would fall in
love with me

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and not want to leave, uh...

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James Bond, Superman type --
Type things.

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Um, then when I got to college,

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somehow these start degrading
into more violent fantasies.

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It is interesting that
he used the word degrade.

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Like he could recognize that

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these fantasies became
more perverse.

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What's missing from
the picture is the fantasy

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of there being some attraction

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on the part of
the victim to him.

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TUSSEY: Ultimately,
that wasn't enough.

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And that escalated into
actually acting on

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his fantasies.

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It's kind of, in a weird way,

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a dry run for what
would be his M.O.

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But it's quite clear that
that wasn't enough for him

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and set the stage
for the next phase.

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TUSSEY:
This thrill of the chase,

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the fear of getting caught,

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the let's see if I can do it
and get away with it,

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absolutely fuels his drive
to continue doing it.

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He is indiscriminate in
the victims that he chose.

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And I think the randomness of it

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just fuels his enthusiasm
and narcissism.

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BERRILL: He was ready
to actually commit the murder

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and fulfill the entire scope
of his fantasy.

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A notion that you can
kidnap, rape,

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kill someone and
dispose of their body,

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and not be held accountable
or responsible,

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I think that's...

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that's a psychopath's wet dream.

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BERRILL: Hunters like to,

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you know, maybe have
to run a little bit

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or shoot twice before
they bring down their prey.

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That's -- that's part
of the game.

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And so a little struggle
on the part of the victim,

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it gives them the opportunity,
I should say,

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to exert his will and his power.

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If you're wired in
a really deviant matter,

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like a guy like this,

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power and sadism is
exciting sexually.

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TUSSEY: One of
the main characteristics

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of psychopathy
is stimulation seeking.

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It can take more stimulation
to get the same thrill

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that you or I may,
and the act of murder,

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but also the sexual sadism
can become addictive.

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TUSSEY: He's getting annoyed,
because psychopaths like to be

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in control,
psychopaths are narcissistic.

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They want to be the one telling

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the story the way
they want to tell it.

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And so he's being confronted
and challenged.

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That is like a wound
to Michael Ross's grandiosity.

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ROSS: Each time I killed,
I made myself

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believe that I wasn't
going to kill again.

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I always honestly believed
that it was some kind

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of a fluke that there was --
Because I don't do this.

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I'm a good person.
I don't want to hurt people.

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It was always
manual strangulation.

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That's where, uh...

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the most

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sexual satisfaction came in.

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When you're more connected,
it's more real,

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more power to that.

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To just shoot somebody
wouldn't -- wouldn't

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give you anywhere near
the excitement.

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I don't know how to --
How to really describe it,

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but I think the strangulation,

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I think that was a very,
very important part of it.

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He wanted it real up close,
tactile, visceral,

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and I imagine wanted to be
right on top of them.

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He was not playing S&M
games with his victims.

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I mean, his thing is

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killing -- it's definitely
a ritualistic aspect.

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He had a procedure that
he followed over and over again.

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It's very psychopathic.

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He really is
a psycho-sexual predator

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who enjoyed murdering
his victims.

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TUSSEY: Sex and punishment
are intertwined for him.

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Getting in trouble for
something sexual at

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an early age creates this link
between sex and violence.

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BERRILL: I expect getting beaten
starts to open the door up

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to where the origins of sex

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and sadism might have come
together in his psyche.

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These murders
may well have gotten

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their start from being a victim

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of sadistic behavior
and wanting to visit that

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on other people
and be the one in power.

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[laughs quietly]

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BERRILL:
Clearly struggling and fear

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were like aphrodisiacs for him.

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He loved that part
of his ritual.

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And then here's
the second victim,

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who no doubt was in
a state of shock.

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So she deprived him.

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In a sense, the victim deviated.

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He didn't deviate.

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And, of course, having
no empathy for his victims,

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he couldn't entertain
the possibility

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that she was scared to death.

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It's pretty disgusting,

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but it does give you some

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insight into the nature
of his ritual.

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He is a predatory,
psycho-sexual serial killer.

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He is, at the core in terms of
his personality structure,

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a psychopath.

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He is not even able
or willing to look

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in the mirror and take
responsibility

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for his own actions,

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um, and rather attributes it
to his mother,

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which is the epitome of
failure to accept

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responsibility that
we see in psychopathy.

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What I think is really
terrifying about people

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like Michael Ross is
you won't see it coming.

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BERRILL: He's typical of a lot
of serial killers who engage in

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these horrible rituals
and then kill the women,

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and for a moment,

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feel like a quote, unquote man.

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MAN: Are you afraid
of dying, Michael?

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No, that's the funny thing
about it.

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They got me on death row
like that's supposed to be

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some big punishment, and, uh...

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for some of us,
death is not a punishment.

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Living is what
the punishment is.

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I think I'd be
very much relieved

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if that day they ever came.

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