1 00:00:01,577 --> 00:00:04,479 [ominous music playing] 2 00:00:14,123 --> 00:00:15,824 [man] Breaking news. A murder mystery 3 00:00:15,925 --> 00:00:17,659 emerges in the woods. 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,661 Three people are dead. 5 00:00:19,762 --> 00:00:22,197 Police are now on a manhunt for the killer, 6 00:00:22,298 --> 00:00:25,500 and they are searching across Florida. 7 00:00:25,601 --> 00:00:27,102 In a house in Chuluota, 8 00:00:27,203 --> 00:00:29,871 police discovered a family murdered. 9 00:00:29,972 --> 00:00:31,339 A couple in their 50s 10 00:00:31,441 --> 00:00:33,308 and their son, in his 30s, 11 00:00:33,409 --> 00:00:35,043 were found dead. 12 00:00:35,144 --> 00:00:36,911 And now, this just in. 13 00:00:36,979 --> 00:00:39,514 The prime suspect is a family member, 14 00:00:39,615 --> 00:00:41,016 Grant Amato. 15 00:00:41,117 --> 00:00:44,853 Officials say he is armed and dangerous. 16 00:00:44,954 --> 00:00:47,522 [detective speaking] 17 00:00:53,763 --> 00:00:56,665 [detective speaking] 18 00:01:05,508 --> 00:01:08,410 [ominous music playing] 19 00:01:10,813 --> 00:01:11,947 [man speaking] 20 00:01:12,048 --> 00:01:13,582 [man speaking] 21 00:01:13,683 --> 00:01:15,650 [man speaking] 22 00:01:15,751 --> 00:01:19,121 [man] The thing inside of me, it's like... 23 00:01:19,222 --> 00:01:20,155 the appetite. 24 00:01:20,256 --> 00:01:23,158 It's like a wolf that's... 25 00:01:23,259 --> 00:01:25,093 feeling... 26 00:01:25,194 --> 00:01:27,095 the hunger. 27 00:01:30,700 --> 00:01:33,602 [ominous music playing] 28 00:01:40,409 --> 00:01:44,079 [officer speaks indistinctly] 29 00:01:44,180 --> 00:01:45,780 [officer] Yeah, that's balding, right? 30 00:01:45,882 --> 00:01:47,382 - [officer] Yeah. - [officer] Yeah. 31 00:01:47,483 --> 00:01:50,385 [ominous music playing] 32 00:01:53,022 --> 00:01:53,989 Okay. 33 00:01:57,693 --> 00:01:58,827 - [officer] Yeah. - Okay. 34 00:02:17,747 --> 00:02:19,648 Okay. I see his body. 35 00:02:29,759 --> 00:02:32,894 [indistinct radio chatter] 36 00:02:32,995 --> 00:02:33,828 [officer speaking] 37 00:02:33,930 --> 00:02:35,230 Let me get to it. 38 00:02:35,331 --> 00:02:36,331 [officer] Yes. 39 00:02:38,134 --> 00:02:40,235 [officer speaking] 40 00:02:44,740 --> 00:02:47,642 [officer speaking] 41 00:02:47,743 --> 00:02:55,743 [ominous music playing] 42 00:03:07,029 --> 00:03:08,029 [detective speaking] 43 00:03:10,833 --> 00:03:14,803 [man speaking] 44 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,918 [detective speaking] 45 00:03:34,557 --> 00:03:39,628 [Grant speaking] 46 00:03:39,729 --> 00:03:43,098 [detective speaking] 47 00:03:49,171 --> 00:03:54,276 [detective speaking] 48 00:04:04,453 --> 00:04:06,354 [Dr. Charles] He's actually being very concrete. 49 00:04:06,455 --> 00:04:08,356 I don't think that he has the ability 50 00:04:08,457 --> 00:04:11,159 to experience that empathy. 51 00:04:11,260 --> 00:04:13,995 The tone of his voice is strange. 52 00:04:14,096 --> 00:04:16,598 It's got a teletype in tone. 53 00:04:16,699 --> 00:04:20,168 It is related to that lack of emotional connectivity, 54 00:04:20,269 --> 00:04:22,304 that empathy, that ability 55 00:04:22,405 --> 00:04:25,173 to convey emotions to other people 56 00:04:25,274 --> 00:04:27,776 and hear emotions from other people. 57 00:04:27,877 --> 00:04:30,979 That is a sign of psychopathy in him. 58 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,349 [detective speaking] 59 00:04:34,450 --> 00:04:35,984 [Grant speaking] 60 00:04:36,085 --> 00:04:39,321 [detective speaking] 61 00:04:39,422 --> 00:04:40,955 [Grant speaking] 62 00:04:41,057 --> 00:04:44,526 [detective speaking] 63 00:04:44,627 --> 00:04:46,594 [Grant speaking] 64 00:04:47,897 --> 00:04:50,765 [detective speaking] 65 00:04:53,903 --> 00:04:56,805 [ominous music playing] 66 00:05:01,143 --> 00:05:04,045 [detective speaking] 67 00:05:23,899 --> 00:05:28,603 [man speaking] 68 00:05:28,704 --> 00:05:31,673 [detective speaking] 69 00:05:39,915 --> 00:05:42,384 [Dr. Charles] They want to get an emotional hook 70 00:05:42,485 --> 00:05:44,686 in the person so they can play on guilt, 71 00:05:44,787 --> 00:05:47,222 sadness, or remorse, 72 00:05:47,323 --> 00:05:49,391 and then get the person to confess. 73 00:05:49,492 --> 00:05:51,192 For Grant Amato, 74 00:05:51,293 --> 00:05:53,428 this technique is not likely to work. 75 00:05:53,529 --> 00:05:54,896 They are trying to tap into emotions 76 00:05:54,997 --> 00:05:56,431 that simply aren't there. 77 00:05:56,532 --> 00:05:59,434 [ominous music playing] 78 00:06:05,608 --> 00:06:07,709 [man speaking] 79 00:06:09,578 --> 00:06:12,480 [Grant speaking] 80 00:06:21,390 --> 00:06:22,924 [man speaking] 81 00:06:23,025 --> 00:06:24,159 [Grant speaking] 82 00:06:25,394 --> 00:06:28,797 [Grant speaking] 83 00:06:45,381 --> 00:06:46,381 [man speaking] 84 00:06:51,187 --> 00:06:52,220 [man speaking] 85 00:06:57,193 --> 00:07:00,195 [man speaking] 86 00:07:02,765 --> 00:07:05,667 [man speaking] 87 00:07:14,643 --> 00:07:17,545 [man speaking] 88 00:07:23,752 --> 00:07:26,988 He blew $200,000 89 00:07:27,089 --> 00:07:30,225 essentially on virtual reality that he stole. 90 00:07:30,326 --> 00:07:31,459 There's obsession, 91 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,628 there's impulse control problems, 92 00:07:33,729 --> 00:07:36,965 and there's lack of recognition 93 00:07:37,066 --> 00:07:38,366 that in stealing this money, 94 00:07:38,467 --> 00:07:41,369 he harmed his family. 95 00:07:41,470 --> 00:07:43,371 [Dr. Charles] He's taking it secretly 96 00:07:43,472 --> 00:07:46,975 which is much more than exploitative and parasitic, 97 00:07:47,076 --> 00:07:50,111 so that's more of the psychopathy realm. 98 00:07:50,212 --> 00:07:53,281 He's going to use them or their money 99 00:07:53,382 --> 00:07:56,150 so that he can get what he wants. 100 00:07:56,252 --> 00:08:02,790 [ominous music playing] 101 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,635 [woman speaking] 102 00:08:43,966 --> 00:08:51,966 ♪♪ 103 00:09:03,953 --> 00:09:11,953 ♪♪ 104 00:09:13,963 --> 00:09:17,365 [Dr. Charles] Grant has lost himself in fantasy. 105 00:09:17,466 --> 00:09:20,568 People who suffer from what we call erotomania 106 00:09:20,669 --> 00:09:22,503 fall in love with people 107 00:09:22,605 --> 00:09:25,406 who don't actually really have a relationship with them. 108 00:09:25,507 --> 00:09:27,675 It is more than an obsession. 109 00:09:27,776 --> 00:09:29,410 We refer to is a delusion. 110 00:09:29,511 --> 00:09:34,182 Delusions are really beliefs that are firmly held 111 00:09:34,283 --> 00:09:36,584 in spite of evidence to the contrary. 112 00:09:36,685 --> 00:09:44,685 ♪ 113 00:09:55,871 --> 00:09:59,340 [Dr. Chitra] The fantastical imaginary connection 114 00:09:59,441 --> 00:10:02,143 is making him feel alive 115 00:10:02,244 --> 00:10:04,045 whereas when he's being interrogated, 116 00:10:04,146 --> 00:10:06,547 he's a shell of a man. 117 00:10:06,649 --> 00:10:07,849 The fact that they're interacting 118 00:10:07,950 --> 00:10:09,751 where she's nonglamorous 119 00:10:09,852 --> 00:10:12,687 is contributing to his delusional belief 120 00:10:12,788 --> 00:10:15,256 that it's a reciprocal relationship. 121 00:10:15,357 --> 00:10:18,026 He believes this is real, that she is real. 122 00:10:18,127 --> 00:10:22,764 He doesn't seem to understand that this is about money. 123 00:10:22,865 --> 00:10:24,599 If she were real, he wouldn't know what to do, 124 00:10:24,700 --> 00:10:26,668 she would be too alive, too overwhelming, 125 00:10:26,769 --> 00:10:29,404 too threatening, too beautiful. 126 00:10:29,505 --> 00:10:33,207 And feel that he couldn't perform. 127 00:10:33,308 --> 00:10:40,615 [suspenseful music playing] 128 00:10:50,693 --> 00:10:52,060 [Dr. Charles] What we're looking at 129 00:10:52,161 --> 00:10:57,098 are... Is an itemized list of issues and rules 130 00:10:57,199 --> 00:11:01,469 that the family would like him to adhere to. 131 00:11:01,570 --> 00:11:04,005 Current Grant responsibilities. 132 00:11:04,106 --> 00:11:06,474 A, get job, 133 00:11:06,575 --> 00:11:08,609 this is absolutely a threat. 134 00:11:08,711 --> 00:11:11,446 Owes family apology. 135 00:11:11,547 --> 00:11:13,247 And in parentheses, 136 00:11:13,348 --> 00:11:17,452 we don't expect due to lack of real feelings. 137 00:11:17,553 --> 00:11:18,986 I believe the family noticed 138 00:11:19,088 --> 00:11:21,456 the signs of psychopathy over the years 139 00:11:21,557 --> 00:11:25,259 that lack of genuine connectivity, 140 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,562 of follow through with what he was saying he would do. 141 00:11:34,937 --> 00:11:36,637 [man speaking] 142 00:11:46,348 --> 00:11:49,250 All right, Sylvie, look at me, I am... 143 00:11:49,351 --> 00:11:51,486 I'm outside, 144 00:11:51,587 --> 00:11:54,222 going to check the mail. 145 00:11:54,323 --> 00:11:58,126 And I'm asking you if you can please, 146 00:11:58,227 --> 00:12:00,695 pretty please, 147 00:12:00,796 --> 00:12:03,698 send me one of your videos. 148 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:05,133 I just... I've love it so much 149 00:12:05,234 --> 00:12:06,701 when you just send them to me. 150 00:12:06,802 --> 00:12:09,036 Yeah, I don't like buying your stuff, 151 00:12:09,138 --> 00:12:11,539 it makes me feel weird. 152 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,609 Would you please send me one though? 153 00:12:14,710 --> 00:12:17,378 He wants a free video because he doesn't 154 00:12:17,479 --> 00:12:19,847 have any other way to get it, he doesn't have money. 155 00:12:19,948 --> 00:12:22,884 But also because then it would be evidence 156 00:12:22,985 --> 00:12:25,286 that Sylvie truly loves him 157 00:12:25,387 --> 00:12:27,455 and that it's not a fantasy relationship, 158 00:12:27,556 --> 00:12:29,891 it's reciprocal. 159 00:12:29,992 --> 00:12:32,059 The key thing here is he's not able 160 00:12:32,161 --> 00:12:34,662 to attach to real people 161 00:12:34,763 --> 00:12:38,132 and this is only possible in a virtual way. 162 00:12:44,006 --> 00:12:50,845 [Grant speaking] 163 00:12:55,984 --> 00:12:58,419 [suspenseful music playing] 164 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,121 [detective speaking] 165 00:13:00,222 --> 00:13:05,660 [Grant speaking] 166 00:13:05,761 --> 00:13:11,165 [detective speaking] 167 00:13:15,137 --> 00:13:18,072 [detective speaking] 168 00:13:21,109 --> 00:13:24,045 [Grant speaking] 169 00:13:26,381 --> 00:13:28,049 [detective speaking] 170 00:13:28,150 --> 00:13:29,851 [Grant speaking] 171 00:13:37,726 --> 00:13:39,193 You're seeing somebody expressing 172 00:13:39,294 --> 00:13:41,229 a pretty psychopathic trait. 173 00:13:41,330 --> 00:13:44,031 I'll just throw my brother and the family under the bus 174 00:13:44,132 --> 00:13:45,299 even though I killed them. 175 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,501 Uh, there's no empathy there. 176 00:13:49,805 --> 00:13:51,472 [Dr. Chitra] This is consistently being driven 177 00:13:51,573 --> 00:13:54,008 by a delusional belief that he's gonna get back 178 00:13:54,109 --> 00:13:56,477 together with Sylvie. 179 00:13:56,578 --> 00:13:59,881 It's a very cold move in the name of love. 180 00:14:20,068 --> 00:14:28,068 [man speaking] 181 00:14:36,818 --> 00:14:40,688 [Grant speaking] 182 00:14:50,065 --> 00:14:58,065 ♪♪ 183 00:14:59,474 --> 00:15:07,474 [detective speaking] 184 00:15:19,294 --> 00:15:20,761 [Dr. Charles] The frustration when 185 00:15:20,862 --> 00:15:22,129 the policeman was sitting there 186 00:15:22,230 --> 00:15:23,998 is that he can't believe it. 187 00:15:24,099 --> 00:15:26,834 When you meet with someone who has psychopathy, 188 00:15:26,935 --> 00:15:29,770 uh, it's as if part of us refuses to believe 189 00:15:29,871 --> 00:15:33,808 that someone could be so callus and so uncaring. 190 00:15:33,909 --> 00:15:36,477 That's what the policeman's responding to 191 00:15:36,578 --> 00:15:37,945 and that's what you see and feel 192 00:15:38,046 --> 00:15:40,314 with people who have psychopathy. 193 00:15:40,415 --> 00:15:42,616 There is no human glue, 194 00:15:42,718 --> 00:15:44,251 there's no emotional glue 195 00:15:44,353 --> 00:15:47,788 that connects you to them. 196 00:15:47,923 --> 00:15:50,624 [Dr. Chitra] The detachment is interesting to me 197 00:15:50,726 --> 00:15:53,327 and this detachment seems to have carried over 198 00:15:53,428 --> 00:15:56,530 into this rage in a sort of a tool if you will 199 00:15:56,631 --> 00:15:59,500 that let him plan and carry out this murder. 200 00:15:59,601 --> 00:16:07,308 [suspenseful music playing] 201 00:16:17,152 --> 00:16:19,587 [Jason speaking] 202 00:16:24,659 --> 00:16:26,560 [suspenseful music playing] 203 00:16:28,997 --> 00:16:31,899 [Jason speaking] 204 00:16:41,076 --> 00:16:49,076 ♪♪ 205 00:17:01,063 --> 00:17:09,063 ♪♪ 206 00:17:09,438 --> 00:17:12,339 [Jason speaking] 207 00:17:22,050 --> 00:17:30,050 ♪♪ 208 00:17:37,499 --> 00:17:38,799 Over the months 209 00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:41,569 - and everything like that. - [Jason] Okay. 210 00:17:41,670 --> 00:17:43,337 He seems to have slipped up when he said, 211 00:17:43,438 --> 00:17:46,073 "I know what I've done to everybody." 212 00:17:46,174 --> 00:17:48,909 Then he catches himself. 213 00:17:49,010 --> 00:17:51,979 He can't forgive his family because he blames them 214 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:58,853 for ruining his fantasy love. 215 00:18:08,930 --> 00:18:10,831 [Jason speaking] 216 00:18:10,932 --> 00:18:13,834 [Grant speaking] 217 00:18:21,710 --> 00:18:24,612 [Jason speaking] 218 00:18:33,054 --> 00:18:34,021 [Grant speaking] 219 00:18:34,122 --> 00:18:37,024 [Jason speaking] 220 00:18:47,002 --> 00:18:55,002 ♪♪ 221 00:18:56,945 --> 00:19:04,945 [suspenseful music playing] 222 00:19:16,998 --> 00:19:24,998 ♪♪ 223 00:19:26,741 --> 00:19:28,709 [Dr. Chitra] We should all make sure we understand 224 00:19:28,810 --> 00:19:30,678 what's real, what's not 225 00:19:30,779 --> 00:19:34,181 and put a little extra effort in connecting, 226 00:19:34,282 --> 00:19:36,250 in a real, honest, open-hearted way, 227 00:19:36,351 --> 00:19:38,886 he couldn't, he wanted to, but he couldn't. 228 00:19:38,987 --> 00:19:40,588 Those of us who can, 229 00:19:40,689 --> 00:19:43,591 we should not take it for granted. 230 00:19:45,193 --> 00:19:49,630 [man speaking] 231 00:19:59,741 --> 00:20:07,741 ♪♪ 232 00:20:19,628 --> 00:20:22,696 [man] The verdict is finally in. 233 00:20:22,797 --> 00:20:24,632 [woman] We, the jury, find the defendant guilty 234 00:20:24,733 --> 00:20:27,268 of first degree premeditated murder. 235 00:20:27,369 --> 00:20:30,271 [man] Grant Amato was found guilty of three counts 236 00:20:30,372 --> 00:20:31,905 of first degree murder. 237 00:20:32,007 --> 00:20:34,108 The state successfully argued 238 00:20:34,209 --> 00:20:35,876 that he murdered his family 239 00:20:35,977 --> 00:20:38,612 over his love for a webcam model, 240 00:20:38,713 --> 00:20:43,851 stealing about $200,000 from them to pay her. 241 00:20:43,952 --> 00:20:46,854 [suspenseful music playing]