[eerie music]
[wailing]
[tense music]
[man 1 speaking]
[man 2 speaking]
[man 3 speaking]
[man 4] This thing inside of me, it's like...
Take a look at this.
The feeling...
The hunger...
[tense music]
[Dr. Raghavan] She switched from being extremely upset
to very business-like.
She seems to have sort of a clear developed theory
as to why this might happen.
You know, that's a little puzzling.
[soft music]
She's making sure that the police understand
that he was a shady guy to direct their attention
away from her and start to consider
the world that he inhabited.
[Dr. Raghavan] I think that's what raises, for me, an eyebrow.
Suggesting that her husband is someone
that many people might want to kill.
It's a peculiar narrative to have for anybody.
[eerie music]
You wanna wait here?
[door squeaking]
[crying]
For the psychopath, the goal of turning on and off
is to manipulate and impress the viewer.
She's very skilled, you know, and she missed her calling.
She could have been an actor
because she can cry on command
and she seems to have some mastery
of her emotions and not everybody does.
[tense music]
[Dr. Raghavan] It's interesting that she would choose
to get her hair done,
feeling like he's so worthless that I can spend my time
doing something that benefits me.
She doesn't like him. I wonder why.
[Dr. Raghavan] Well, it's a couple of psychopathic traits
sort of running through this and this complete detachment
from the situation and over-rating
her own confidence in a grandiose way.
[Dr. Berrill] Despite the fact that she comes across
as a fun loving, attractive young woman,
there are some real, real deficiencies,
but she's sure that no one would ever
point a finger at her because, look, I'm adorable.
[slow music]
[Dr. Raghavan] The whole exchange is so bizarre,
it's so inappropriate.
But that's part of her performance, to be cute.
Female psychopaths are so rare
that we can't even put a percentage on it.
But female psychopathy manifests quite differently.
There's gendering and almost everything.
[Dr. Berrill] When she describes herself as a cute little girl,
she's really letting you know how she thinks
the rest of the world looks at her,
but don't let that fool you.
So right there, you sort of get
the bifurcation between how she presents herself
to the world and who she really is.
[eerie music]
[dramatic music]
[tense music]
They brought into the room the undercover cop
who was masquerading as a hitman
to see if she was going to admit that she knew him.
[Dr. Berrill] She knows damn well she met with this guy,
she is unflappable and she's a good actress.
She does have really quite admirable
control of her emotions.
[crying]
[inaudible chatter]
[Dr. Berrill] What's going on here is that the jig is up,
she's just in the face of reality,
just saying, like, I didn't do anything.
She set this in motion.
So this lets you know how infantile she really is.
When you speak to a lot of anti-socials or psychopaths,
there is an infantile quality.
You know, to them.
She's not that sharp.
She's, she's put her trust in someone.
And again, I think it's that self-deluded
and grandiose notion that she's a cute little girl.
[Dr. Raghavan] The role of smallness, cuteness, fragility.
In this particular instance,
it's to manipulate the detectives
into feeling sorry for her and then letting her go.
[tense music]
We're witnessing a game show from hell.
Basically this whole thing was a setup
and of course the police knew that.
She didn't.
[Dr. Berrill] She's asking him to soothe her.
Not like, I need to explain myself
or I need to apologize for this whole thing.
But it was like, come here, you know, come rescue me.
But I guess Mike wasn't having any of it.
[Dr. Raghavan] I think it's not a coincidence,
it's really notable that she met her husband
while escorting.
One of the requirements of a woman who escorts
is that you have to shut down your own feelings
in order to become whatever the fantasy is of the client.
And so detachment and performance go hand in hand.
[eerie music]
[Dr. Raghavan] The minute he says, return my house,
her voice just drops into this sort of cold like,
uh-uh, it's mine,
She switched out of, you know, sort of
this performance into an actual feeling,
which is I am entitled to this house.
The interesting thing about psychopaths
is there's no real person
because they don't really have an integrated identity.
They just take on the persona that is necessary to survive.
And that's why they can be charming,
they can be manipulative,
they can be all these different things.
The focus on the money doesn't make her psychopathic.
It's the ruthless determination
and coldness in obtaining it.
[tense music]
[Dr. Raghavan] People with psychopathic traits, they lie.
Perhaps it's not a coincidence that she says
it was a performance and that she wants to be
a reality TV star.
In fact, so much of women who escort their lives
are just performers.
And even though I think the story
that she's come up with is extremely unlikely.
You know, there's elements of that
that seem to fit sort of her larger reality.
[tense music]