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[eerie music]

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[wailing]

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[wailing]

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[tense music]

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[man 1 speaking]

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[man 2 speaking]

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[man 3 speaking]

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[man 4]<i> This thing</i>
<i>inside of me, it's like...</i>

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<i>Take a look at this.</i>

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<i>The feeling...</i>

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<i>The hunger...</i>

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[tense music]

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[Dr. Raghavan] <i>She switched
from being extremely upset</i>

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<i>to very business-like.</i>

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She seems to have sort of
a clear developed theory

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as to why this might happen.

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You know, that's a little
puzzling.

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[soft music]

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She's making sure that the
police understand

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that he was a shady guy
to direct their attention

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away from her
and start to consider

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the world that he inhabited.

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[Dr. Raghavan] <i>I think that's
what raises, for me, an eyebrow.</i>

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Suggesting that
her husband is someone

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that many people might
want to kill.

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It's a peculiar narrative
to have for anybody.

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[eerie music]

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You wanna wait here?

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[door squeaking]

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[crying]

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For the psychopath,
the goal of turning on and off

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is to manipulate
and impress the viewer.

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She's very skilled, you know,
and she missed her calling.

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She could have been an actor

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because she can cry on command

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and she seems to
have some mastery

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of her emotions and not
everybody does.

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[tense music]

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[tense music]

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[Dr. Raghavan] <i>It's interesting
that she would choose</i>

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<i>to get her hair done,</i>

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feeling like he's so worthless
that I can spend my time

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doing something
that benefits me.

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She doesn't like him.
I wonder why.

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[Dr. Raghavan] <i>Well, it's a
couple of psychopathic traits</i>

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sort of running through this
and this complete detachment

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from the situation
and over-rating

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her own confidence
in a grandiose way.

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[Dr. Berrill]<i> Despite the fact</i>
<i>that she comes across</i>

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<i>as a fun loving,
attractive young woman,</i>

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there are some real,
real deficiencies,

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but she's sure that
no one would ever

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point a finger at her
because, look, I'm adorable.

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[slow music]

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[Dr. Raghavan] <i>The whole
exchange is so bizarre,</i>

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<i>it's so inappropriate.</i>

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But that's part of her
performance, to be cute.

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<i>Female psychopaths are so rare</i>

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<i>that we can't even put
a percentage on it.</i>

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But female psychopathy
manifests quite differently.

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There's gendering
and almost everything.

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[Dr. Berrill] <i>When she describes
herself as a cute little girl,</i>

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she's really letting you know
how she thinks

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the rest of the world
looks at her,

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but don't let that fool you.

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<i>So right there, you sort of get</i>

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the bifurcation between
how she presents herself

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to the world
and who she really is.

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[eerie music]

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[dramatic music]

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They brought into the room
the undercover cop

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who was masquerading as a hitman

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<i>to see if she was going to
admit that she knew him.</i>

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[Dr. Berrill] <i>She knows damn
well she met with this guy,</i>

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she is unflappable
and she's a good actress.

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She does have
really quite admirable

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control of her emotions.

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[crying]

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[inaudible chatter]

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[Dr. Berrill] <i>What's going
on here is that the jig is up,</i>

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she's just in
the face of reality,

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just saying, like,
I didn't do anything.

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<i>She set this in motion.</i>

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<i>So this lets you know how
infantile she really is.</i>

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When you speak to a lot of
anti-socials or psychopaths,

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there is an infantile quality.

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You know, to them.

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<i>She's not that sharp.</i>

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She's, she's put her
trust in someone.

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And again, I think it's
that self-deluded

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and grandiose notion that
she's a cute little girl.

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[Dr. Raghavan] <i>The role of
smallness, cuteness, fragility.</i>

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In this particular instance,

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it's to manipulate the
detectives

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into feeling sorry for her
and then letting her go.

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[tense music]

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We're witnessing
a game show from hell.

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Basically this whole thing
was a setup

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and of course
the police knew that.

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<i>She didn't.</i>

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[Dr. Berrill] <i>She's
asking him to soothe her.</i>

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<i>Not like,
I need to explain myself</i>

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or I need to apologize
for this whole thing.

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But it was like, come here,
you know, come rescue me.

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But I guess Mike
wasn't having any of it.

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[Dr. Raghavan] <i>I think
it's not a coincidence,</i>

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<i>it's really notable
that she met her husband</i>

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<i>while escorting.</i>

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<i>One of the requirements
of a woman who escorts</i>

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is that you have to shut down
your own feelings

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in order to become whatever
the fantasy is of the client.

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And so detachment and
performance go hand in hand.

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[eerie music]

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[Dr. Raghavan] <i>The minute
he says, return my house,</i>

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her voice just drops into
this sort of cold like,

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uh-uh, it's mine,

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She switched out of,
you know, sort of

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this performance into
an actual feeling,

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which is I am entitled
to this house.

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<i>The interesting thing about
psychopaths</i>

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<i>is there's no real person</i>

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<i>because they don't really have
an integrated identity.</i>

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They just take on the persona
that is necessary to survive.

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And that's why
they can be charming,

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they can be manipulative,

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they can be all
these different things.

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<i>The focus on the money doesn't
make her psychopathic.</i>

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<i>It's the ruthless determination</i>

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<i>and coldness in obtaining it.</i>

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[Dr. Raghavan]<i> People with</i>
<i>psychopathic traits, they lie.</i>

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Perhaps it's not a coincidence
that she says

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it was a performance
and that she wants to be

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a reality TV star.

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In fact, so much of women
who escort their lives

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are just performers.

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<i>And even though I think
the story</i>

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<i>that she's come up with
is extremely unlikely.</i>

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You know,
there's elements of that

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that seem to fit
sort of her larger reality.

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