1 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,734 [killer speaking] There's a thing inside of me, it's like... 2 00:01:28,166 --> 00:01:30,066 the appetite, it's like a wolf that's... 3 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,834 killing... the hunger. 4 00:02:16,700 --> 00:02:19,467 Even when you have seasoned... 5 00:02:19,467 --> 00:02:20,400 detectives, 6 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,467 and seasoned police officers, 7 00:02:22,467 --> 00:02:25,567 there's very little that prepares a human being 8 00:02:25,567 --> 00:02:26,600 for seeing 9 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,266 a harrowing crime scene like this, 10 00:02:28,266 --> 00:02:30,867 where a human being has been treated with 11 00:02:30,867 --> 00:02:32,700 such a level of disregard 12 00:02:32,700 --> 00:02:36,400 that it just tells us that this is a high-risk case, 13 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,667 and it's somebody who has some level of psychiatric disturbance 14 00:02:39,667 --> 00:02:42,233 to be able to do that to another human being. 15 00:03:28,100 --> 00:03:30,767 Cohee's displaying classic psychopathic tendencies 16 00:03:30,767 --> 00:03:33,800 where he has absolutely no remorse, 17 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:34,867 no feelings of guilt. 18 00:03:34,867 --> 00:03:37,166 He's not offering up any of that. 19 00:03:37,166 --> 00:03:40,266 But what he's offering up is how much time he's got to do 20 00:03:40,266 --> 00:03:41,767 because of this murder. 21 00:03:41,767 --> 00:03:44,900 He's really not identifying what the value of the life is. 22 00:03:44,900 --> 00:03:47,200 He doesn't really understand. 23 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,867 He's just saying, "Oh, okay, I'm going to go away for a couple of years." 24 00:03:50,867 --> 00:03:54,700 There's no empathy towards the victim, whatsoever. 25 00:03:54,700 --> 00:03:56,667 No understanding of life, 26 00:03:56,667 --> 00:03:59,133 feelings, emotions, absolutely none. 27 00:04:51,667 --> 00:04:54,133 [Dr. Charles] He's announcing, there are weapons in the car, 28 00:04:54,500 --> 00:04:55,867 and I'm a sick person. 29 00:04:55,867 --> 00:04:57,567 So, we can see this as 30 00:04:57,567 --> 00:04:59,767 already setting a new frame 31 00:04:59,767 --> 00:05:01,867 in the conversation with the interviewer 32 00:05:01,867 --> 00:05:03,567 in controlling where it's gonna go 33 00:05:03,567 --> 00:05:06,000 and then framing how it should be viewed. 34 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,500 He's already laying out the status for 35 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:12,000 what could be described as an excuse or a defense, 36 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,467 um, sort of putting the blame somewhere else. 37 00:06:13,767 --> 00:06:16,767 [Dr. Nameeta] As he starts to talk about the details 38 00:06:16,767 --> 00:06:18,700 of his attack on the victim, 39 00:06:18,700 --> 00:06:20,166 he seems to be getting titillated 40 00:06:20,166 --> 00:06:22,100 and aroused by this, 41 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:24,266 and not aroused in the sexual sense of the word 42 00:06:24,266 --> 00:06:27,634 but aroused in the sense that the adrenalin is starting to course. 43 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,233 [mimics growling] 44 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,033 [detective] Okay. 45 00:07:51,667 --> 00:07:53,066 [Cohee chuckles] 46 00:08:01,967 --> 00:08:04,467 [Dr. Nameeta] He's not attached to the fact that Warren Barnes 47 00:08:04,467 --> 00:08:06,200 this is a human being he killed, 48 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,266 and that he went on to then 49 00:08:08,266 --> 00:08:11,500 dehumanize, and humiliate his body, 50 00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:12,967 his remains. 51 00:08:12,967 --> 00:08:15,867 It sounds like it's something out of a horror movie. 52 00:08:15,867 --> 00:08:19,367 But what we also get a sense of is that, Brian Cohee was entertained. 53 00:08:19,367 --> 00:08:21,567 This was play-acting for him. 54 00:08:21,567 --> 00:08:24,166 This was him going through the motions 55 00:08:24,166 --> 00:08:26,200 of creating his own horror film, 56 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,934 creating his own set of memories. 57 00:09:41,367 --> 00:09:43,667 Many people with psychopathy sense they... 58 00:09:43,667 --> 00:09:46,667 they don't appreciate the world around them like other people do, 59 00:09:46,667 --> 00:09:48,266 may incorporate the ideas 60 00:09:48,266 --> 00:09:50,467 that they've seen in a film into the act 61 00:09:50,467 --> 00:09:51,667 that they act out 62 00:09:51,667 --> 00:09:54,967 because the fantasy world is more interesting to them 63 00:09:54,967 --> 00:09:59,166 than the actual world of human relations that they live in. 64 00:10:48,667 --> 00:10:51,100 Cohee proudly talks about what he knows, 65 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:53,367 and what he has become a learner of, 66 00:10:53,367 --> 00:10:55,266 which is the forensic sciences, 67 00:10:55,266 --> 00:10:57,200 and how the criminal mind thinks, 68 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,467 and he has taken copious notes on various serial killers. 69 00:11:00,467 --> 00:11:02,266 What is ironic, 70 00:11:02,266 --> 00:11:05,400 is that he didn't take many steps to hide his evidence, 71 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,867 and his own sort of missteps in decision making, 72 00:11:08,867 --> 00:11:11,800 the fact that his mother found these remains in the home, 73 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,100 speaks of somebody who was looking to get caught, 74 00:11:14,100 --> 00:11:17,433 because it's not spectacular, if it only lives in your head. 75 00:12:01,467 --> 00:12:02,967 I think there's a lot in that comment. 76 00:12:02,967 --> 00:12:04,467 The... the criminal is someone 77 00:12:04,467 --> 00:12:06,367 who is not obeying social rules, 78 00:12:06,367 --> 00:12:10,367 a police officer is someone who has a lot of authority over other people 79 00:12:10,367 --> 00:12:13,266 but I think it's more of the access to people in power and control issue 80 00:12:13,266 --> 00:12:16,266 that would be appealing to someone with psychopathy. 81 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,066 [Dr. Nicole] Cohee is choosing a victim 82 00:12:53,066 --> 00:12:56,600 that he thinks no one will know is missing, 83 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,166 so he can actually complete the act of killing. 84 00:13:00,166 --> 00:13:01,500 This is a new thing for him. 85 00:13:01,500 --> 00:13:02,867 He hasn't done this before. 86 00:13:02,867 --> 00:13:06,200 So he doesn't want to engage in a struggle. 87 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,867 He doesn't want it to be interfered with. 88 00:13:08,867 --> 00:13:10,800 He wants to accomplish this act 89 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,166 to get that feeling of excitement and arousal. 90 00:14:35,967 --> 00:14:39,266 [Dr. Charles] Cohee talks about his experience killing a cat 91 00:14:39,266 --> 00:14:41,066 and it's a miniature 92 00:14:41,667 --> 00:14:43,867 prelude to killing a human 93 00:14:43,867 --> 00:14:45,000 and cutting them open 94 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,467 and taking their head off. 95 00:14:46,467 --> 00:14:49,667 Uh, and we do see that in many instances 96 00:14:49,667 --> 00:14:51,000 of people who are psychopathic, 97 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,367 who then go on to kill people. 98 00:14:52,367 --> 00:14:54,867 They've done rehearsal. They've tortured animals 99 00:14:54,867 --> 00:14:56,867 or they've hurt other kids. 100 00:14:56,867 --> 00:14:59,567 Those are all sort of the baby steps 101 00:14:59,567 --> 00:15:01,467 toward the bigger act of killing a human. 102 00:15:37,867 --> 00:15:40,200 What we know about Brian Cohee's time 103 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,000 in school and as a student 104 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,066 is there were a multitude of red flags. 105 00:15:44,066 --> 00:15:48,133 Revealing some of the entries from Cohee's journals, 106 00:15:48,667 --> 00:15:50,367 they can best be summarized 107 00:15:50,367 --> 00:15:54,266 as a self-created encyclopedia on murder, 108 00:15:54,266 --> 00:15:56,567 on harm of human beings, 109 00:15:56,567 --> 00:15:59,600 and glorifying psychopathic behavior. 110 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,667 There was also an incident of a third-degree assault, 111 00:16:02,667 --> 00:16:06,100 where he created a homemade weapon, a homemade mace, 112 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:07,467 and swung it around 113 00:16:07,467 --> 00:16:09,634 into one of the other student's heads. 114 00:16:49,367 --> 00:16:50,900 [Dr. Nicole] He was practicing, 115 00:16:50,900 --> 00:16:52,667 because if he can perfect that 116 00:16:52,667 --> 00:16:56,300 then he can take it to next level and add in that sexual component 117 00:16:56,300 --> 00:16:58,467 and that would make sense for someone like Cohee 118 00:16:58,467 --> 00:17:01,900 who doesn't have any history of personal relationships, 119 00:17:01,900 --> 00:17:03,900 let alone with females, 120 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:07,066 and so this might be a way of him 121 00:17:07,066 --> 00:17:09,367 seeing what it's like to be with a female, 122 00:17:09,367 --> 00:17:14,166 but controlling and abusing them and getting them to the point 123 00:17:14,166 --> 00:17:16,100 where they are in such fear of their life 124 00:17:16,100 --> 00:17:19,266 that it's also giving him sexual gratification off of that. 125 00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:53,000 [Dr. Nameeta] What might be most disturbing 126 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,667 when Cohee talks about how it felt for him, 127 00:17:55,667 --> 00:17:57,367 he's a bit deflated. 128 00:17:57,367 --> 00:18:00,266 Cohee's desire to seek a thrill 129 00:18:00,266 --> 00:18:02,467 and a get a high or an adrenalin rush, 130 00:18:02,467 --> 00:18:04,367 it didn't even really last. 131 00:18:04,367 --> 00:18:06,767 So, what happens for a person like Brian Cohee 132 00:18:06,767 --> 00:18:09,767 if that thrill-seeking and an adrenaline rush 133 00:18:09,767 --> 00:18:11,100 is short lived, 134 00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:13,867 after doing that much destruction to a human being? 135 00:18:13,867 --> 00:18:16,066 That part I think is incredibly scary to think about. 136 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,800 [reporter] A Mesa County teen accused of brutal murder 137 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,667 of the local homeless man has pleaded not-guilty 138 00:19:02,667 --> 00:19:04,066 by reason of insanity. 139 00:19:04,066 --> 00:19:07,000 Nineteen-year-old Brian Cohee entered the plea in person 140 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,900 during his arraignment in Mesa County Court this morning. 141 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:11,100 During hearing in September 142 00:19:11,100 --> 00:19:12,667 an investigator told the court, 143 00:19:12,667 --> 00:19:14,100 he believed Cohee suffered 144 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:15,967 from mental illness and depression 145 00:19:15,967 --> 00:19:17,433 among other conditions. 146 00:19:24,567 --> 00:19:27,600 In general, when we think about competency evaluations, 147 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,467 we are thinking about at the time of the crime, 148 00:19:30,467 --> 00:19:33,567 did they understand the difference between right and wrong? 149 00:19:33,567 --> 00:19:36,467 Brian Cohee understood if he was caught he'd be in trouble, 150 00:19:36,467 --> 00:19:39,967 and this is somebody that from the outset of when he left home 151 00:19:39,967 --> 00:19:42,166 took steps to avoid being detected, 152 00:19:42,166 --> 00:19:44,266 avoid being linked to this crime. 153 00:19:44,266 --> 00:19:46,800 And ultimately his choice of victims was also part of that, 154 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,467 in that he chose somebody that by his own definition, 155 00:19:49,467 --> 00:19:51,166 he thought would not be missed. 156 00:19:51,166 --> 00:19:53,066 [reporter] Judge Gurley sentenced Cohee 157 00:19:53,066 --> 00:19:55,200 to the rest of his natural life in prison 158 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,433 plus thirteen and half years without parole. 159 00:19:59,867 --> 00:20:02,400 Justice served, that while Warren is gone, 160 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,266 he will never be forgotten. 161 00:20:04,266 --> 00:20:06,200 Now, some of Warren's family members 162 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,300 told me they choose to remember Warren 163 00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:09,800 where he was known and loved, 164 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,367 at his memorial in Downtown Grand Junction, 165 00:20:12,367 --> 00:20:13,867 not the murder site.