I don't associate myself with people like her.
And why is that?
Because when she raises puppies, half the litter ends up dying.
Breeding dogs like this is more of a puppy factory.
So this is all about money?
[Anne] I'm, I'm not saying that.
You really don't care about the dog?
[announcer] This is Judy Justice.
[theme music playing]
[announcer] Dog breeder Ann Bonneville is accusing
her cousin Sky McCauley of breaking a breeding contract.
[Kevin] Court come to order.
All rise.
- Good morning, Judge. - Good morning.
Be seated, please.
Case number 1031, Bonneville versus McCauley.
Thank you.
Ms. Bonneville, in 2018,
your Olde English Bulldogge had a litter of puppies.
- Uh-hmm. - [Judge Judy] The defendant,
who is your cousin,
agreed to foster one of those puppies
because you couldn't keep that dog in your home.
It is your claim that he breached the contract
with regard to that dog and you're suing him
for $10,000.
Yeah.
[Judge Judy] You really don't want the puppy returned.
The puppy has been with him since 2018.
- Still lives with you? - Yes, ma'am.
[Judge Judy] Right. So I want you to get that right out
of your mind after three years.
I assume that you like the dog?
- She's my baby. - [Judge Judy] And the dog likes him
and you really don't care about the dog.
When was the last time you saw the dog?
- Um... - A month and year.
[Anne] It would be--uh, I...
[Judge Judy] Shouldn't be so long ago.
I'm sorry, it was--it was August 2019.
[Judge Judy] Okay.
If that's the case, that's a couple years ago.
And so when I say there's no way
you're getting back this dog, so this is all about money?
Now when you gave Mr. McCauley this puppy,
you drew up a contract with him?
- [Anne] Yes. - I'd like to see the contract.
I have that right here.
[Judge Judy] Just give it to me.
Give it--well, give it to Kevin.
Kevin, go, go give it to me.
[Kevin] Thank you.
Okay.
Now, before we get into all of the variables
about this contract, while we're doing this,
Sarah, take a look at this.
Was this the first time in 2018 that you had
a litter of puppies?
Yes, that was my first litter ever.
You were the owner of the female dog?
Yes.
[Judge Judy] The female dog lived with you?
Yes.
[Judge Judy] So you had one dog at the time?
- Yes. - Could not have two.
[Anne] I, I...
[Judge Judy] That's either a yes or a no.
I was not able to have the second dog.
Fine. Which is why you gave him the dog to foster?
- Don't. - Oh, sorry.
[Judge Judy] Since 2018, have you had other litters with the same dog?
Yes, Your Honor.
[Judge Judy] How many? How many times...
[Anne] Well, there was four other litters.
[Judge Judy] Four since 2018?
Yes. They can breed twice a year.
You breed them twice a year?
- Yes. - [Judge Judy] Just a second.
I'll see the contract back.
You breed this one female two times a year?
Yes, Your Honor.
Sarah, look up and see what's recommended for breeding.
So this dog had three litters-- no, six litters in three years.
Her last heat, I retired her.
[Judge Judy] So you breed-- so you breed her every time
she goes into season, which is twice a year.
[Anne] Yes, Your Honor.
Well, that's not right. I don't think, maybe I'm wrong.
[Sarah] The American Kennel Club states that the legal litter limit
is six per lifetime for a bulldog, Your Honor.
And how many times a year?
- I'll-I'll look it up. - [Judge Judy] Look it up.
I know, I've had many dogs over my lifetime,
and bought them from reputable breeders.
I never knew a breeder that bred their dog every time they went into heat
because the dog's body has to have time to nurture itself.
I'm just telling you, I never knew a breeder that I bought a dog from
that bred the same female dog twice a year.
I just never did. Maybe I'm wrong.
Sarah is going to continue her due diligence.
It just says, "Recommended for the safety
of the female dog, to three to four total a year."
It's impossible. They only go to--into heat twice a year.
According to the American Kennel Club.
Do you have dogs anyplace else, Ms. Bonneville?
I have one other female and one other male.
They are both Olde English Bulldogges.
[Judge Judy] So that you breed those two dogs together?
[Anne] I don't breed them together.
The male is in the same family.
Let me read this contract.
So this is a clear agreement, Mr. McCauley.
It says, "I, Sky McCauley, will be fostering Anne Bonneville's dog Paris
from this date forward, and will retain all rights including breeding
and the right to take the puppy back at any time,
and will take care of all vet visits.
Breeding will be paid by one pup per litter."
That was from her mother, not from the dog.
You can't explain terms of an agreement
- if I don't have a question about them. - Okay.
[Judge Judy] I don't have a question about this.
This says, "Breeding will be paid by one pup per litter."
And that suggests to me that you were going to retain
physical control of the dog and the dog would be bred
and each time the dog was bred, you would get one puppy
from that littler either to keep or to sell.
That's the plain language of this.
(chuckles) I absolutely understand what this says.
Okay?
So each of you claim that the arrangements
in this contract were breached by the other.
So let me go through them.
You got the dog in 2018.
Yes, ma'am.
[Judge Judy] Well, from 2018 now, to 2021,
a dog like this goes to the vet at least once a year.
- Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] In 2018,
did you take the dog Paris to the vet?
Yes, ma'am. I did.
[Judge Judy] And you have that vet bill?
Yes, ma'am. Um, I do.
- I'd like to see it. - [Sky] We will just bring them all
- to you. - [Judge Judy] There's no--
there's no question before you, sir.
- Just get me the vet bill. - Here, all the vet bills.
[Judge Judy] No, I don't want all the vet bills.
[Sky] Okay.
I want the vet bills from 2018.
This is Kevin's exercise.
He may have to walk back and forth two or three times.
Okay.
That bill for Paris was 134.38.
Ms. Bonneville, did you pay that bill?
That's either a yes or a no.
That bill was not paid by me, no.
[Judge Judy] That bill was not paid by you?
Okay. So if that bill was not paid--
oh, that visit didn't take place in 2018.
That visit took place in September of 2019.
We waited approximately a year for her to take the dog
- to a vet and she never did... - [Judge Judy] Just a second.
That was 2019 and the plaintiff didn't pay
and at that time in September of 2019,
you hadn't bred the dog nor had she asked for the dog back?
No, we have not bred the dog or--no.
[Judge Judy] Okay. Do you acknowledge, Ms. Bonneville,
that in September of 2019
that the dog Paris had not been bred
and you had not asked for the dog back?
That's either a yes or a no.
- Yes, Your Honor. - Fine.
So the dog hadn't been bred and you had not asked for the dog back.
Did Mr. McCauley present to you or advise you what this bill
of 134.38 was when he took the dog to the vet?
- He did not. - [Judge Judy] Did you advise her?
Yes, Your Honor, I did.
[Judge Judy] Tell me when.
I called her on the phone and told her that we took her to the vet,
what the bill was, and she said that she would pay us
with the next puppy that was supposed to be coming up from Princess.
[Judge Judy] She would pay you with the next puppy?
From Princess, not Paris.
[Judge Judy] Okay. Did she give you a puppy for the vet?
[Sky] No sir-- no, ma'am.
- [Judge Judy] She did not? - No.
[Judge Judy] Now, subsequent to this,
did Princess have a litter of puppies?
She did have puppies after that, yes.
And did you in fact give him a puppy from that litter?
That was not our agreement and I did not.
I did give him a puppy out of a prior litter.
He got $900 for that and I have a lot of communication about that in here.
[Judge Judy] Okay. Did you get a puppy from a prior litter?
[Sky] I got a puppy the day I took Paris home.
- [Judge Judy] So the... - Because it was to pay
for the first six months of her being in my property.
- [Judge Judy] Of her... - Yup.
[Judge Judy] Of care?
- Yup. - [Judge Judy] Okay.
Is that correct that he got the puppy the day he took Paris home?
- No, Your Honor. - [Judge Judy] Or within a week of that?
No, it was April, following-- bringing Paris home.
[Judge Judy] Well what date did he bring Paris home?
November 4th of 2018.
And when did he get a puppy?
[Anne] April 6th or 7th.
- [Judge Judy] Of what year? - Um, 2019.
[Judge Judy] Well, that was before this vet visit.
So that was owed to him?
[Anne] In the contract, um, Your Honor, it says I would give him
a puppy out of Paris' litters, out of the dog that we're talking about.
[Judge Judy] Well, no, it didn't--no. It actually didn't say that.
- [Anne] It didn't say that. - It didn't say that.
- [Anne] But... - [Judge Judy] It didn't say that
I am interpreting it that way.
But clearly, you interpreted it some other way because
before this vet bill became owed, you gave him a puppy.
Now you wouldn't have given him a puppy for which he got $900
unless you had some sort of an agreement.
We had a side agreement, Your Honor, about...
[Judge Judy] And what was the side agreement?
The side agreement was I would give him a puppy to help
with things, uh, such as taking care of the dog.
He had actually gotten a puppy long before he--where--what we agreed on.
[Judge Judy] Just a second.
I understand that. I understand.
Can I see in writing that he agreed to take this one puppy
and take care of the dog forever and not make the dog his?
I would just like to see that-- 'cause right now,
you've breached the contract by not paying a vet bill.
So what I wanna see is where you modified
the agreement in April of 2019,
that the one puppy that you gave him, modified this agreement,
so that you are no longer responsible for any bills for the dog.
Do you understand my question?
And if you want it repeated, Whitney is going to repeat it for you.
- [Anne] I'm, I'm not... - Do you want it repeated?
- Yes, please. - [Judge Judy] Whitney, you wanna read
that back to the plaintiff, please?
Question, "So what I wanna see
is where you modified the agreement in April of 2019.
The one puppy that you gave him in 2019 modified this agreement
so that you were no longer responsible for any bills for the dog."
[Anne] I'm not saying that I wasn't going to give him any more puppies.
No, we're not talking about puppies. We're talking about money.
- Or money, I... - [Judge Judy] Money.
- I-I actually handed him... - [Judge Judy] It says
that you would take care of the vet visits.
He had a discussion with you about paying the vet bill, and you declined.
[Anne] I had set up an appointment at my vet.
- [Judge Judy] I don't care about that. - [Anne] And...
You have to understand, I don't care about your vet.
This contract doesn't say he has to take the dog to your vet.
[announcer] And later today.
So you were raised by your grandparents.
You've always lived there, you didn't move out until 2011?
Yes.
[Judge Judy] So their loss was hardest on you?
- Yes. - [Judge Judy] I got it.
Now I'm creating a family picture.
[theme music playing]
[announcer] Anne Bonneville claims her cousin Sky McCauley
owes her for the value of a puppy.
Sky is countersuing for breach of contract.
[Judge Judy] It says that you would take care of the vet visits.
[Anne] So I gave him this puppy in...
- [Judge Judy] In April. - [Anne] ...in lieu of that. I...
- [Judge Judy] Just... - [Anne] I sold the puppy
and gave him the cash.
[Judge Judy] Now, as far as I'm concerned, breeding dogs like this
is more of a puppy factory than the care
that you take in breeding dogs and not using them for money.
Since 2019, have you given
Mr. McCauley any money for vet bills?
He's gonna show me the rest of the vet bills.
[Anne] No. The only--the only...
[Judge Judy] No, don't. The answer is either yes or no.
- No. - [Judge Judy] Has he asked you
for any money?
[Anne] He's not talked to me since October on how...
[Judge Judy] Of what year?
- [Anne] 2019. - [Judge Judy] Okay.
Did you tell her that you took the dog to the vet again?
[Sky] Yes, ma'am. That was the last time I talked to her.
That was the last time you talked to her?
[Sky] I have not talked to her in almost three years.
And why is that?
I don't associate myself with people like her.
So I'm gonna take this contract and disregard it
because it sounds to me as if you knew as a pet breeder
that animals have to be seen every year by a vet.
He did say he told you about the first visit to the vet.
I had set up an appointment at my vet...
[Judge Judy] I don't care about that.
- [Anne] And... - You have to understand,
I don't care about your vet.
This contract doesn't say he has to take the dog to your vet.
This contract says you will pay the vet bills.
Your claim is dismissed.
Now we're getting to the counterclaim.
Money losses resulting from a broken contract.
Well, you have the dog, right?
- Yes, yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] Very good. Okay.
Action [indistinct] resulting to defamation of character.
Now we're gonna hear about that. Defamation of character.
So first off, Your Honor, she went on Facebook and,
"Does anyone know if a guy named Sky McCauley is here selling OEB bulldogs?
The mom is a dog he stole from me."
Which--then I had people contacting me.
Her coworker sent us this. So this...
Saying, "Hey, you might wanna look at this?
It might be interesting." Her coworker seen it.
- And then we got posted on... - [Judge Judy] Don't--ssh, ssh.
- [Sky] Nine different other websites. - [Judge Judy] Shh, shh, shh, shh, shh.
"Does anyone know if a guy named Sky McCauley is in here selling puppies?"
Would that be 2019?
That was--that was this year.
- [Judge Judy] This year? - [Anne] I thought he was breeding
my dog without communicating anything with me.
[Judge Judy] That's okay. I don't think, Ms. Bonneville,
that there's anything wrong with you asking the question,
"Does anyone know if a guy named Sky McCauley
is in here selling EOB puppies?
The mom is a dog he stole from me."
So you're calling him a thief, which is calling him a criminal.
That you can't say. That's defaming him.
Okay. This is the way I'm gonna rule.
Plaintiff breached the contract first by not paying the vet bills.
So she gets nothing.
And you have Paris?
- Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] And Paris had puppies?
[Sky] Never. Paris has been spayed.
[Judge Judy] The fact that he's had the dog spayed suggests to me
that he's not going to breed the dog and the dog was going to be a family pet.
Probably considering your breeding program is a blessing.
However, even though she should not have used the word,
"Stole my dog," which is exactly what happened.
- You have other things you wanna show? - [Sky] Yes, Your Honor.
She went around town posting my copy of my address as well as the contract
on vets' doors, and telling them not to see any of my animals.
Okay. Well, we are going to give you an order today.
- Okay. - [Judge Judy] That indicates
that Paris is your dog.
- Okay. Thank you. - [Judge Judy] Okay.
Your counterclaim's dismissed.
Everybody's happy. Except me.
- [Kevin] Court adjourned. - Thank you.
I believe that it was absolutely unfair and unjust.
She's an abusive neglectful breeder.
Everything he said is a falsification and he got away with it.
[Judge Judy] You know what that's an example of, Sarah?
Even judges bring pieces of themselves to a case.
We don't come with a clean slate, we come with certain feelings
and emotions about things that I'm sensitive to.
- Uh-hmm. - [Judge Judy] And I'm one of those people
who are really sensitive about puppy mills.
Uh-hmm.
[Judge Judy] And they both got what they deserved and I hope
that he got what he wanted because clearly he wasn't going
to use this dog as a breeding tool for money.
That's a very tough case.
It makes me sad for all those animals that are bred in cages.
Very sad.
Case 1017, Williamson Jr. versus Williamson.
All parties, please step forward.
[announcer] Frank Williamson, is suing his sister Sheryl Williamson
for the cost of tools and construction materials.
Mr. Williamson, this is your sister?
Yes.
[Judge Judy] Your father passed away recently.
- [Frank] Yes. - What was the date of his passing?
I don't know--I don't know exact date.
[Judge Judy] Just a second.
The answer is,
- "I don't know the date..." - I don't know.
[Judge Judy] "...my father passed away."
Do you know the date of your father's passing?
[Sheryl] May 22nd.
- [Judge Judy] Of what year? - 2021.
[Judge Judy] This is what the case is about. Mr. Williamson,
it is your claim that there was a time when you moved in to your father's house.
Yes.
[Judge Judy] And your mother was still alive?
Yes. My mom had a stroke.
[Judge Judy] In what year did your mother have a stroke?
2005.
When you moved into the house, had she already been ill?
- Yes. - [Judge Judy] Who was taking care of her?
- I was. - [Judge Judy] No,
you weren't living there yet.
I said, "When you moved into the house, had she already had the stroke?"
- You said yes. - Yes.
[Judge Judy] Who was caring for her before you moved into the house?
- My daughter. - [Judge Judy] Who are you?
I'm the granddaughter of-- I'm his daughter.
[Judge Judy] Okay. Stand up.
Is what your raised hand suggest to me
- that you were living with your... - [Unica] I was living--
I was living in the house until 2008 when my aunt moved in.
[Judge Judy] Okay.
So you were actually taking care of your grandmother?
Yes.
- [Judge Judy] After she got sick? - Yes.
Was your grandfather okay?
[Unica] He had a heart attack and he was recovering
and then she had a stroke.
[Judge Judy] Sounds like you had your hands full?
I did.
[Judge Judy] Did you have any other help?
[Unica] No. My dad and my other aunts that live in California at the time,
they all came over occasionally to help out and relieve me
so I can have some type of life.
[Judge Judy] Okay. You lived there until what year?
Until 2008.
[Judge Judy] And continued to help take care of your grandparents?
Yes.
What about this aunt, did she come to visit?
[Unica] She moved out here from Atlanta in 2008, 2009.
[Judge Judy] And is that when she came to live at the house?
Yes, and then that's when I moved out.
[Judge Judy] And your father was still there?
- [Unica] Yes. - [Judge Judy] In 2008?
[Unica] Yes.
[Judge Judy] Your father was still there?
What's your first name?
- Sheryl. - [Judge Judy] Sheryl.
So Sheryl moved in, you moved out, she sort of assumed whatever duties
you were doing with then just your father, correct?
- Yes. - [Sheryl] Your Honor,
I moved there in 2011.
Oh, well...
Got the dates wrong. Would that be right?
Yeah--yes.
[Judge Judy] Okay, so you were actually there then for quite some time.
[Unica] I-I lived in the house since I was five.
Did your mother live in the house?
For a brief moment.
[Judge Judy] So you were really raised by your grandparents?
Yes.
[Judge Judy] Now I got it.
So you were raised by your grandparents,
you've always lived there, you didn't move out until 2011?
Yeah.
[Judge Judy] So their loss was hardest on you?
Yes.
I got it. Now I'm creating a family picture.
Okay. Do you know anything about the disagreements that started
to exist between your father and your Aunt Sheryl?
- No. - You don't know anything?
[Unica] I only know from the time when I moved back in in 2019,
that's when everything started to come to a head.
I have a daughter and I didn't want her to be traumatized
by any of the family drama.
Very smart.
Your grandparents did a very good job.
- Thank you. - They did.
Good for them, good for you.
[theme music playing]
[announcer] Frank Williamson claims his sister Sheryl Williamson
threw out his building materials.
Sheryl is countersuing for repayment of a loan.
[Judge Judy] Tell me why you've moved back in 2019.
[Unica] My grandfather ran into a wall and he was unable to drive
and take himself places, so he asked me
to come back to help him out, to take him and his friends
to the grocery store on the weekends.
At that time, your father was still living there?
- No. - [Judge Judy] What about Aunt Sheryl?
[Unica] She was there.
[Judge Judy] What did she do in the house?
She occasionally cooked and occasionally cleaned.
[Judge Judy] Did you get along with her?
Yes, I did. I actually love all of my aunts.
[Judge Judy] Good.
Okay.
Mr. Williamson, I want you to tell me what happened
when you decided to move back home.
- My father, he told me... - [Judge Judy] Don't tell me, just...
Okay.
Don't tell me what your father told you.
- [Frank] Uh-hmm. - Of course.
- Are you cold? - A little bit.
I know it's freezing in here. I like it like a meat locker.
(chuckles) Some people get--some people get cold.
This is your claim.
Your claim is that you had discussions with your father,
- which I'm not gonna get into. - Uh-hmm.
[Judge Judy] 'Cause I can't verify them.
And he told you that he wanted you to live in a guest house
that he wanted you to build behind the main house,
so you bought a lot of tools and lumber.
And after your father passed away, your sister got rid of all of that.
Did she dispose of the property
before or after your father passed away?
- Before. - Before.
[Judge Judy] Before?
Ms. Williamson, you went back and forth to visit your grandfather?
[Unica] Well, yes, I live in a backhouse until the issue started to--
I have a daughter and I didn't want her to be traumatized
by any of the family drama.
Very smart.
Your grandparents did a very good job.
(chuckles) Thank you.
[Judge Judy] They did. Good for them, good for you.
And Ms. Williamson, when the property was disposed of,
your grandfather and your father was alive?
- Right. - [Judge Judy] He was occupying
- his own home. - [Frank] Correct.
[Judge Judy] Okey-dokey.
Now, let's talk about your counterclaim.
You can have a seat now, Ms. Williamson.
I'm not gonna get you further involved in all this drama.
Thank you so much.
[Judge Judy] (chuckles) Oh, you're very welcome.
You have a counterclaim.
- [Sheryl] Yes. - Your counterclaim is for loans
that your father allegedly made
to your brother during his lifetime?
Yes.
And you are the executor of his estate?
- [Sheryl] Yes. - [Frank] No, I am.
[Judge Judy] Shh, shh, shh. You're the executor of his estate?
- No, he's not. - [Judge Judy] May I see
the documents that you have?
And I'd also like to see a copy of your dad's will, please?
Thank you.
Okay. Well, this is an old trust, sir.
[Sheryl] This is from the Recorder's Office.
[Judge Judy] May I see it, please?
So this document gives the defendant power of attorney.
I just wanna know if she could sue on behalf of the state
for this alleged loan that her father made for you.
So after you were granted the power of attorney,
you went to court and changed the living trust?
- Yes. - [Judge Judy] Got it.
So let us assume for the moment
that your father provided you
with a power of attorney to sue on his behalf,
and that was in 2020?
Yes.
[Judge Judy] When did you discover that you believe
that your father made a loan to your brother?
My father got a $30,000 loan and he gave him $15,000.
But as I look in his checkbook, he actually gave him $17,000.
[Judge Judy] Just a second. He took out a $30,000 loan.
[Sheryl] Yes.
And he gave half of it to his son?
- Right. - [Frank] Uh-hmm.
- And he said... - [Judge Judy] And so--just a second.
- And he's allowed to do that? - [Sheryl] Yes, but...
[Judge Judy] When did you find that out?
[Sheryl] 2019.
[Judge Judy] And so you knew about that in 2019,
that your father had made a gift to your brother...
- No. - [Judge Judy] No. Just a second.
You say your father gave him...
- [Sheryl] Well... - ...$15,000,
he took out a loan and he gave him half? Did your father...
That he was supposed to pay back.
[Judge Judy] I-I'd like to see proof of that.
[Sheryl] He didn't having to sign a promissory note.
[Judge Judy] Just-- well, that's the problem.
Ms. Williamson...
[Sheryl] In his checking account, it has...
- [Judge Judy] So what? - [Sheryl] Okay. Well...
[Judge Judy] I give my children money all the time.
You know, it's so interesting that your father who was clearly
a lovely man and had a lovely wife, had a good life,
and accumulated some money, and had a house, had two children,
who after he's gone, are really destroying that good footprint.
I don't understand that over some old tools and lumber
and something that you cannot prove was a loan to his child.
Well, I only can go by what he told me...
- [Judge Judy] Oh, you can't go... - [Sheryl] And I, I feel...
I can't go by what he told you.
[Sheryl] Well, I told my father, "You shouldn't--
you shouldn't have done that."
I don't care what he told you.
This house that your father had, just curious, was it sold?
No. I'm living in the home right now.
Okay. And do you intend to stay there?
- Yes. - [Judge Judy] And pursuant
to the property settlement,
what did your brother, if anything,
receive from your father's estate?
- He... - [Judge Judy] Just either...
- [Sheryl] Nothing. - That's a number, that's a number.
Zero.
Well, sounds to me like you're living
in the house that you didn't live at for a whole time.
Where is your niece living?
[Sheryl] She doesn't live with me. I don't know where she lives.
[Judge Judy] Was she living there with her daughter
at the time your father passed?
- That's either a yes or a no. - No. No.
[Unica] Well, I moved out this year because I had to call the police
'cause she kept changing the locks on the doors
when I come home from work.
So every time I would go home,
when I try to get in, she'll change the locks.
[Judge Judy] Got it. I got the story.
That's not true, Your Honor.
[Judge Judy] I don't care whether it's true or not.
You got the house, she'd been living there since
she was five years old, and she's not living there anymore.
She was in fact living there until your father died.
No, she was living with her grandmother.
My father asked me, "How do you think about Unica moving in?"
And I want to be nice, I want to say no.
[Judge Judy] Okay. He raised her.
He raised her. Ms. Williamson, your case is dismissed.
- So is yours, Mr. Williamson. - Okay.
[Judge Judy] You got a house?
Is it in your name now?
- Yeah. - [Judge Judy] Good for you.
- We're done here. - All right.
[Kevin] Court adjourned.
My grandparents would not want this fighting going on.
We don't get along at all.
I don't get along with my niece.
I don't get along with him.
I feel that family being here in court for this matter is ridiculous.
[Sarah] I couldn't imagine fighting with any one of my siblings
after not one, but both of our parents pass away.
You know, there's a good lesson takeaway.
Nobody likes to think about dying.
But if adults are smart, no matter how old they are,
they should have a document that is clear
and unequivocal, that's called a will.
That tells their children,
their grandchildren, their friends,
exactly what they want done with their property,
so that we don't have siblings in a courtroom like this.
And I think that all of that can be avoided if people act smart
and create a good will.
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