1 00:00:00,333 --> 00:00:01,800 - You are a driver? - Yes. 2 00:00:01,867 --> 00:00:03,800 How come you vandalized a car? 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,667 Just aggravated with the day. 4 00:00:08,300 --> 00:00:09,700 Well, we have a camera system. 5 00:00:09,767 --> 00:00:10,734 He actually ripped it off. 6 00:00:12,433 --> 00:00:13,900 - You cut the wires? - Yes. 7 00:00:13,967 --> 00:00:15,533 I can't argue about that. 8 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,734 [Judge Judy laughs] I would believe that. 9 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,033 [announcer] This is Judy Justice. 10 00:00:20,100 --> 00:00:23,100 [theme music playing] 11 00:00:37,533 --> 00:00:42,734 [announcer] Sherry Ary is suing independent contractor James Furtado 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,467 for car damages, breach of contract, and tow fees. 13 00:00:47,467 --> 00:00:48,633 [Kevin] Court come to order. 14 00:00:50,300 --> 00:00:51,467 Be seated, please. 15 00:00:53,066 --> 00:00:54,600 - Hello, Judge. - How are you? 16 00:00:54,667 --> 00:00:58,100 Case 1093, Ary versus Furtado. 17 00:00:58,166 --> 00:00:59,467 Thank you. 18 00:00:59,533 --> 00:01:01,567 Ms. Ary, you have a business. 19 00:01:01,633 --> 00:01:03,867 And let me see if I can summarize 20 00:01:03,934 --> 00:01:06,367 what I understand your business model is. 21 00:01:06,433 --> 00:01:08,533 You own a fleet of cars. 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:09,834 - Uh-hmm. - Not uh-hmm. 23 00:01:09,900 --> 00:01:11,000 - That's a yes? - Yes. 24 00:01:11,066 --> 00:01:12,066 [Judge Judy] How many? 25 00:01:13,166 --> 00:01:14,533 Uh, how many currently? 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:16,800 Six. 27 00:01:16,867 --> 00:01:21,400 [Judge Judy] And what you do is you lease those cars or rent them, 28 00:01:21,467 --> 00:01:24,000 either by the day, by the month, by the week 29 00:01:24,066 --> 00:01:26,367 to drivers, who you do not employ, 30 00:01:26,433 --> 00:01:28,667 they're their own independent contractors. 31 00:01:28,734 --> 00:01:30,667 They pay for the rental of the car, 32 00:01:30,734 --> 00:01:33,467 they do trips for you, 33 00:01:33,533 --> 00:01:35,333 from your client list, 34 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,734 and they get to keep a portion of whatever the trip is. 35 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,200 Is that the business model? 36 00:01:41,265 --> 00:01:42,567 - Yes. - Correct? 37 00:01:42,633 --> 00:01:43,633 Yes. 38 00:01:43,700 --> 00:01:46,000 [Judge Judy] So let me understand the dynamics of it. 39 00:01:46,066 --> 00:01:48,300 Do you rent the cars by the day, week, month? 40 00:01:48,366 --> 00:01:49,533 Daily. 41 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,233 [Judge Judy] How much do you charge for a day 42 00:01:51,300 --> 00:01:53,300 to the driver, you are a driver? 43 00:01:53,366 --> 00:01:54,366 - [Sherry] Okay. - Yes. 44 00:01:54,433 --> 00:01:55,500 [Judge Judy] How much she charge a day? 45 00:01:55,567 --> 00:01:57,100 - There's different fees. - [Judge Judy] Why? 46 00:01:57,166 --> 00:01:59,700 It all boils down to about 45%, 47 00:01:59,767 --> 00:02:01,900 is what the company actually receives. 48 00:02:01,967 --> 00:02:05,400 [Judge Judy] So they don't actually lease the car from you, 49 00:02:05,467 --> 00:02:06,867 you take a percentage 50 00:02:06,934 --> 00:02:09,333 of whatever the fairs are? 51 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,033 - Yes. What the fairs are, exactly. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 52 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:14,133 So they don't, say, pay you 53 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,166 a hundred dollars plus a percentage. 54 00:02:16,233 --> 00:02:18,333 They work in your car 55 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,266 and what they pay you is 45% 56 00:02:22,333 --> 00:02:24,800 of whatever they collect that day. 57 00:02:24,867 --> 00:02:25,867 Yes. 58 00:02:25,934 --> 00:02:27,667 - [Judge Judy] Is that the way it works? - No. 59 00:02:27,734 --> 00:02:29,066 [Judge Judy] Okay. How does it work? 60 00:02:29,667 --> 00:02:32,934 Depending on how she sees that the money is going in 61 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,033 for that driver that day, 62 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:37,133 she either pay 65%, 63 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,500 35%, 64 00:02:38,567 --> 00:02:42,367 or she decides to do it 50/50, 65 00:02:42,433 --> 00:02:43,667 - whatever she wants to do. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 66 00:02:43,734 --> 00:02:46,800 - Okay. So... - And we are just... sorry. 67 00:02:46,867 --> 00:02:49,500 But what you don't do is pay her for the car? 68 00:02:49,567 --> 00:02:51,266 [James] Yes, we do. 69 00:02:51,333 --> 00:02:53,066 - [Judge Judy] You do? How? - Yeah. 70 00:02:53,133 --> 00:02:57,166 It's either depending on if the car was one of the Dodges, 71 00:02:57,233 --> 00:02:59,433 seven dollars, maybe five dollars a day. 72 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:02,166 If it was one of the Mitsubishis, 73 00:03:02,233 --> 00:03:03,233 $10 a day. 74 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:05,967 So in addition to whatever percentage, 75 00:03:06,033 --> 00:03:08,266 you pay for the car per day? 76 00:03:08,333 --> 00:03:11,400 Plus two dollars for each dispatched call. 77 00:03:11,467 --> 00:03:15,767 Plus a dollar for a deductible a day 78 00:03:15,834 --> 00:03:17,633 and a dollar for escrow. 79 00:03:17,700 --> 00:03:19,433 - Per day? - Per day. 80 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:20,633 Does that sound right? 81 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:21,966 Not all of it. 82 00:03:22,033 --> 00:03:23,367 [Judge Judy] What part is not right? 83 00:03:23,433 --> 00:03:26,533 Okay. Um, the fee of two dollars is actually $1.85. 84 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,300 That does fluctuate. 85 00:03:28,367 --> 00:03:29,367 I know, it's nothing. 86 00:03:29,433 --> 00:03:31,966 But if you look at it towards a long period, it is. 87 00:03:32,033 --> 00:03:33,700 - But everything else - Keep going. 88 00:03:33,767 --> 00:03:35,466 - [Sherry] And - Everything else is correct? 89 00:03:35,533 --> 00:03:37,033 Everything else is--yes, it's close. 90 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:40,567 [Judge Judy] So you do in fact charge per day to rent the car. 91 00:03:40,633 --> 00:03:41,700 Uh-hmm. 92 00:03:41,767 --> 00:03:43,033 - [Judge Judy] That's a yes? - Yes. 93 00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:44,867 - [Judge Judy] And that's a yes? - Yes. 94 00:03:44,934 --> 00:03:47,333 [Judge Judy] Even though it's a minimal amount of money. 95 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,934 - [James] Yes. - But you do charge them. 96 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,700 Okay. And you, Mr. Furtado 97 00:03:51,767 --> 00:03:52,767 Yes. 98 00:03:52,834 --> 00:03:55,700 [Judge Judy] Mr. Furtado had driven your cars 99 00:03:55,767 --> 00:03:57,500 for a period of time, 100 00:03:57,567 --> 00:03:59,533 for how long, Ms. Ary? 101 00:04:01,066 --> 00:04:03,467 Since April of 2020 102 00:04:03,533 --> 00:04:06,900 until July 18th of 2021. 103 00:04:06,967 --> 00:04:08,734 [Judge Judy] Had he driven every day? 104 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,333 Seven days a week, five days a week, 105 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,500 - four days a week, how do - Usually five shifts. 106 00:04:12,567 --> 00:04:13,834 - [Judge Judy] Five shifts? - Yes. 107 00:04:13,900 --> 00:04:15,633 - [Judge Judy] Which is five days. - Yes. 108 00:04:16,632 --> 00:04:17,867 [Judge Judy] Correct? 109 00:04:17,934 --> 00:04:19,266 Sometimes. 110 00:04:19,332 --> 00:04:20,767 [Judge Judy] Okay. Sometimes more... 111 00:04:20,834 --> 00:04:22,567 [James] Sometimes more. Sometimes less. 112 00:04:22,633 --> 00:04:24,834 Depending if there was a situation with me. 113 00:04:24,900 --> 00:04:26,533 - [Judge Judy] Okay. - And I couldn't drive. 114 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,233 [Judge Judy] In July of 2021 115 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:29,533 when there was an incident. 116 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,200 And according to you the incident, 117 00:04:32,266 --> 00:04:34,700 which will be described to me later, 118 00:04:34,767 --> 00:04:37,066 resulted in you calling in Mr. Furtado 119 00:04:37,133 --> 00:04:39,900 when telling him that you were placing him on suspension. 120 00:04:39,967 --> 00:04:41,433 That's what you say in your complaint. 121 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:45,000 You then say Mr. Furtado says, "Then I quit." 122 00:04:45,066 --> 00:04:47,800 And you asked him to return the car, 123 00:04:47,867 --> 00:04:51,533 he said "If you want the car, come get it, it's in my driveway." 124 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,400 When you went to get the car, the car wasn't there, 125 00:04:54,467 --> 00:04:56,900 Mr. Furtado told you that it had been towed, 126 00:04:56,967 --> 00:04:58,433 that he had called a towing company. 127 00:04:59,433 --> 00:05:01,767 He says he called the towing company to pick up the car 128 00:05:01,834 --> 00:05:03,700 because he was afraid that you would-- 129 00:05:03,767 --> 00:05:06,667 I'm telling you what you wrote, that you called a towing company 130 00:05:06,734 --> 00:05:08,400 because you were afraid 131 00:05:08,467 --> 00:05:11,266 that the plaintiff would call the police 132 00:05:11,333 --> 00:05:13,100 and report the car stolen, 133 00:05:13,166 --> 00:05:14,867 and she said she'd be there in an hour, 134 00:05:14,934 --> 00:05:16,233 she wasn't there in an hour, 135 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:17,667 so you called the towing company. 136 00:05:17,734 --> 00:05:19,200 So what you're suing for 137 00:05:19,266 --> 00:05:21,100 is damage to the car 138 00:05:21,166 --> 00:05:25,433 that you say that the defendant did to the car, 139 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:27,266 breach of contract, I don't know what that is, 140 00:05:27,332 --> 00:05:29,367 loss of business, tow fees, 141 00:05:29,433 --> 00:05:30,834 and harassment of clients. 142 00:05:30,900 --> 00:05:33,767 The harassment of clients, the only thing that you alleged in your complaint 143 00:05:33,834 --> 00:05:36,400 is that he passed out his business cards 144 00:05:36,467 --> 00:05:40,734 to drive independently of your company to your clients. 145 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,367 That's the only allegation in here, is that correct? 146 00:05:43,433 --> 00:05:44,433 I have a couple more. 147 00:05:44,500 --> 00:05:46,834 It's the only allegation that's in the complaint. 148 00:05:46,900 --> 00:05:49,166 - Okay. - [Judge Judy] With regard to your clients 149 00:05:49,233 --> 00:05:50,633 and harassment, 150 00:05:50,700 --> 00:05:52,100 unless I'm missing something. 151 00:05:52,166 --> 00:05:53,967 [Sherry] Oh, well, also the harassment could be 152 00:05:54,033 --> 00:05:57,667 to another coworker that he worked with. And... 153 00:05:57,734 --> 00:05:59,133 - Oh, no. Not the... - [Sherry] Okay. 154 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,266 That's not pled in your complaints, so I'm not paying any attention to it. 155 00:06:02,333 --> 00:06:05,300 So the harassment of clients, 156 00:06:05,367 --> 00:06:06,600 I'm deleting that. 157 00:06:06,667 --> 00:06:08,200 [theme music playing] 158 00:06:09,900 --> 00:06:12,667 How come you vandalized her car, Mr. Furtado? 159 00:06:12,734 --> 00:06:15,266 - Just aggravated with the day. And... - [Judge Judy] Got it. 160 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:17,567 Okay. Honest, aggravated, 161 00:06:17,633 --> 00:06:19,867 cost money to be honest and aggravated sometimes. 162 00:06:19,934 --> 00:06:21,332 Okay. I got it. 163 00:06:28,332 --> 00:06:31,332 [theme music playing] 164 00:06:34,266 --> 00:06:39,233 [announcer] Sherry Ary claims independent contractor James Furtado 165 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:43,600 owes for car damages, breach of contracts, and tow fees. 166 00:06:43,667 --> 00:06:45,300 James is countersuing, 167 00:06:45,367 --> 00:06:48,734 claiming he was wrongfully terminated by Sherry. 168 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,834 [Judge Judy] Now I am taking a statement 169 00:06:50,900 --> 00:06:54,567 that he did in fact give out his business cards to your clients. 170 00:06:54,633 --> 00:06:56,033 I'm taking that as a fact. 171 00:06:56,100 --> 00:06:57,500 - Yes, but there's also... - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 172 00:06:57,567 --> 00:07:01,066 a text stating from one of the clients that he harassed them. 173 00:07:01,133 --> 00:07:02,133 - Harassed her. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 174 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,200 I'm not taking a text from a client. 175 00:07:04,266 --> 00:07:05,834 - Okay. - [Judge Judy] That's hearsay. 176 00:07:05,900 --> 00:07:07,500 - Okay. - [Judge Judy] What I'm saying 177 00:07:07,567 --> 00:07:10,266 is if a person has a claim against the defendant 178 00:07:10,333 --> 00:07:13,133 for harassment that person can file a complaint 179 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,266 and that complaint will be heard by a court. 180 00:07:15,333 --> 00:07:17,500 But handing out business cards 181 00:07:17,567 --> 00:07:18,567 is not harassment. 182 00:07:18,633 --> 00:07:19,767 It may be a violation 183 00:07:19,834 --> 00:07:22,266 of a written contract that you have with him 184 00:07:22,332 --> 00:07:24,467 - and that I'll of course see. - [Sherry] Understood. 185 00:07:24,533 --> 00:07:28,033 Because you do have money owed for breach of contract. 186 00:07:28,567 --> 00:07:30,600 But harassment of clients is out. 187 00:07:30,667 --> 00:07:32,400 Now damages to the car. 188 00:07:32,467 --> 00:07:35,633 On what date did you pick up the car from the towing company? 189 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:38,533 [Sherry] I think the 18th, the same--the same evening. 190 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,266 And what damage do you allege was done to the car? 191 00:07:42,332 --> 00:07:45,400 Well, we have a camera system and it also is connected to a gateway 192 00:07:45,467 --> 00:07:47,467 and he actually ripped it off, cut it off, 193 00:07:47,533 --> 00:07:50,967 and the way he ripped it off ruined both equipment to the vehicle. 194 00:07:51,033 --> 00:07:53,066 - And also... - [Judge Judy] Was it left in the car? 195 00:07:53,133 --> 00:07:54,332 Yes, it was. 196 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,967 It was left in the car but it was taken apart? 197 00:07:57,033 --> 00:07:59,100 [Sherry] It was cut and pulled. 198 00:07:59,166 --> 00:08:00,467 May I see, please? 199 00:08:00,533 --> 00:08:01,600 See a photograph of it. 200 00:08:01,667 --> 00:08:03,700 Here's pictures of the vehicle. 201 00:08:03,767 --> 00:08:06,000 [Judge Judy] How long had Mr. Furtado 202 00:08:06,066 --> 00:08:08,667 had the car, that particular car? 203 00:08:08,734 --> 00:08:10,834 [Sherry] He's had it a pretty long time, actually, 204 00:08:10,900 --> 00:08:13,200 when he started to help out... 205 00:08:13,266 --> 00:08:15,934 - [Judge Judy] Did he have it July 16th? - [Sherry] Yes. 206 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,633 - July 14th? - Yes. 207 00:08:17,700 --> 00:08:19,266 [Judge Judy] Okay. Is that correct? So... 208 00:08:19,332 --> 00:08:21,600 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] And this unit 209 00:08:21,667 --> 00:08:23,332 that you are referring to 210 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,367 was operable on July 14th and 15th? 211 00:08:28,367 --> 00:08:31,266 I have pictures of him actually in the car that same day. 212 00:08:31,332 --> 00:08:32,767 - [Judge Judy] May I see that? - Yes. 213 00:08:34,834 --> 00:08:37,600 And also the GPS which shows that too. 214 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,033 [Judge Judy] Do you have an estimate to fix these? 215 00:08:54,100 --> 00:08:55,800 - [Sherry] Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] May I see them, please? 216 00:08:55,867 --> 00:08:58,333 [Sherry] So repairs of receipts-- I have receipts. 217 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,000 [Judge Judy] I just want the receipts so far for those two things 218 00:09:01,066 --> 00:09:02,367 where the wires were cut. 219 00:09:02,433 --> 00:09:05,367 [James] I have copies of the so-called receipts. 220 00:09:05,433 --> 00:09:07,734 [Sherry] Just the-- for the wires that were cut. 221 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:08,900 Okay. Got you. 222 00:09:08,967 --> 00:09:10,767 Just for the wires that were cut. 223 00:09:10,834 --> 00:09:12,266 [James] Would it be faster for me to get them out? 224 00:09:12,333 --> 00:09:13,467 [Judge Judy] Sure. 225 00:09:14,500 --> 00:09:16,233 Yeah, it would. Definitely. Thank you. 226 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,633 [James] This is the only receipt-- 227 00:09:21,033 --> 00:09:23,734 or receipts that I received 228 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,734 that has anything to do with the camera. 229 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,233 - [Judge Judy] Okay. - [Sherry] I have more here. 230 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:29,400 I just have to find them. 231 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:37,667 [Judge Judy] It's $85, is that correct? 232 00:09:37,734 --> 00:09:40,165 No. No, $85 was just to check, 233 00:09:40,233 --> 00:09:42,700 if it was operable any longer. 234 00:09:42,767 --> 00:09:45,600 Labor of installing or servicing. Eighty dollars. 235 00:09:45,667 --> 00:09:48,667 Okay. What I have here is the cost of the equipment itself. 236 00:09:48,734 --> 00:09:51,834 Just a second. Did you install this yourself, sir? 237 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:53,367 - No, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] She did? 238 00:09:53,433 --> 00:09:54,433 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] Yeah, 239 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:55,500 - but you cut the wires. - Yes. 240 00:09:55,567 --> 00:09:57,367 [Judge Judy] There's no question that you cut the wires? 241 00:09:57,433 --> 00:09:59,000 I can't argue about that. 242 00:09:59,066 --> 00:10:00,100 I know. 243 00:10:00,166 --> 00:10:01,166 [audience laughs] 244 00:10:01,233 --> 00:10:02,333 I got it. 245 00:10:03,767 --> 00:10:05,433 Then just show me 246 00:10:05,500 --> 00:10:07,400 the paid bill 247 00:10:07,467 --> 00:10:09,000 to reinstall, 248 00:10:09,066 --> 00:10:10,433 if they had to reinstall... 249 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:12,066 [Sherry] It has not been reinstalled yet. 250 00:10:12,133 --> 00:10:13,867 I have not received the equipment yet. 251 00:10:13,934 --> 00:10:16,000 - From whom? - [Sherry] A company that actually... 252 00:10:16,066 --> 00:10:17,767 [Judge Judy] Well, how do I know what it costs? 253 00:10:17,834 --> 00:10:18,900 [Sherry] Right here, ma'am. 254 00:10:18,967 --> 00:10:20,633 - Okay. - [Sherry] I have the bill and it-- 255 00:10:20,700 --> 00:10:22,800 I also have some other stuff here too. 256 00:10:22,867 --> 00:10:25,266 - Don't give me a lot of other stuff. - [Sherry] Okay. 257 00:10:25,333 --> 00:10:28,166 Stuff I gave up about 15 years ago. 258 00:10:28,233 --> 00:10:29,367 Just give me the bill. 259 00:10:29,433 --> 00:10:30,467 [Sherry] Got you. 260 00:10:33,133 --> 00:10:35,533 I do have the rate of five here, at a thousand eight hundred 261 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,834 and some odd dollars if you need that. 262 00:10:41,266 --> 00:10:43,700 [Judge Judy] How come you vandalized her car, Mr. Furtado? 263 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:45,900 The wires itself, 264 00:10:47,333 --> 00:10:49,066 just aggravated with the day and... 265 00:10:49,133 --> 00:10:50,133 [Judge Judy] Got it. 266 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,300 Okay. 267 00:10:51,367 --> 00:10:54,100 Honest, aggravated, cost money to be honest 268 00:10:54,165 --> 00:10:55,367 and aggravated sometimes. 269 00:10:55,433 --> 00:10:58,233 Okay. Now what other damage you alleged to the car? 270 00:10:58,300 --> 00:11:01,600 [Sherry] Also he used superglue in the vehicle 271 00:11:01,667 --> 00:11:03,400 that damaged a lot of the interior. 272 00:11:03,467 --> 00:11:05,200 Can I see photographs of that? 273 00:11:05,266 --> 00:11:06,433 May I say something about that? 274 00:11:06,500 --> 00:11:10,233 - [Judge Judy] Absolutely. - Your Honor, I had her permission 275 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:11,433 to put up signs 276 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:13,767 because it made it easier for the customers. 277 00:11:13,834 --> 00:11:15,400 [Judge Judy] I'm not talking about signs. 278 00:11:15,467 --> 00:11:18,200 - She said you superglued purposefully. - The sign. 279 00:11:18,266 --> 00:11:20,734 The signs. I superglued the signs. 280 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,600 She's gonna show me if it's where signs would ordinarily go. 281 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,834 - [James] Yup. No problem. - No problem. 282 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:34,667 No. No. 283 00:11:34,734 --> 00:11:36,867 This isn't act of vandalism. 284 00:11:36,934 --> 00:11:39,133 This is where clearly signs were. 285 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,433 Next. 286 00:11:41,433 --> 00:11:42,834 Clearly signs were? 287 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:44,165 Where signs were. 288 00:11:44,233 --> 00:11:45,600 They have Velcro for signs. 289 00:11:45,667 --> 00:11:48,266 He was not given permission to put those up there. 290 00:11:48,333 --> 00:11:50,667 There were not signs up there to begin with. 291 00:11:50,734 --> 00:11:52,500 Show me--show me a picture of signs 292 00:11:52,567 --> 00:11:53,800 - that you have in that car. - [Judge Judy] Five hundred 293 00:11:53,867 --> 00:11:55,367 and forty seven dollars. 294 00:11:55,433 --> 00:11:56,800 Breach of contract. 295 00:11:56,867 --> 00:11:58,600 What contract did he breached? 296 00:11:58,667 --> 00:12:00,834 Independent contractor agreement that we had 297 00:12:00,900 --> 00:12:03,266 that he does not solicit to our... 298 00:12:03,333 --> 00:12:04,700 May I see the contract 299 00:12:04,767 --> 00:12:06,600 - that you signed with him? - [Sherry] Yes, ma'am. 300 00:12:07,867 --> 00:12:08,867 Contract. 301 00:12:18,934 --> 00:12:20,400 [Judge Judy] You have a signed agreement with him? 302 00:12:20,467 --> 00:12:21,533 Yes, it's the very back one. 303 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:22,667 [Judge Judy] Did you sign this agreement? 304 00:12:23,867 --> 00:12:26,033 - Is that the way you sign your name? - I had... 305 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:27,700 [Sherry] It's on the back of that, for the electronically-- 306 00:12:27,767 --> 00:12:28,967 - just the... - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 307 00:12:29,033 --> 00:12:30,333 Yes, ma'am. 308 00:12:31,934 --> 00:12:33,200 Second to the back one. 309 00:12:34,333 --> 00:12:36,100 [Judge Judy] Yeah, that's where he signs his name. 310 00:12:36,165 --> 00:12:37,767 That's the way he signs it here. 311 00:12:37,834 --> 00:12:39,100 - Okay. - [James] Your Honor, 312 00:12:39,165 --> 00:12:41,000 I'd like to say something about that though. 313 00:12:41,066 --> 00:12:42,667 - I'm gonna read it first. - [James] Okay, it's... 314 00:12:42,734 --> 00:12:43,734 Just a sec. Don't say anything. 315 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:44,934 No problem. 316 00:12:51,367 --> 00:12:54,000 - [Judge Judy] What state do you live in? - Florida. 317 00:12:54,066 --> 00:12:57,700 [Judge Judy] Sarah, see if you can find anything, in the state of Florida. 318 00:12:58,734 --> 00:13:02,367 For the duration of non-compete clauses 319 00:13:02,433 --> 00:13:04,433 in an employment contract. 320 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:07,367 I see in your agreement that he signed, 321 00:13:07,433 --> 00:13:09,467 you've put in a four-year period 322 00:13:09,533 --> 00:13:12,133 where he can't go to another company 323 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,800 or drive for anyone else. 324 00:13:13,867 --> 00:13:16,800 I downloaded that from Swift Forms. 325 00:13:16,867 --> 00:13:18,500 Oh, well, that's a problem. 326 00:13:18,567 --> 00:13:21,734 [theme music playing] 327 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,867 Well, it gives your personal information in the event 328 00:13:23,934 --> 00:13:26,767 that they wanna contact you independently of her, 329 00:13:26,834 --> 00:13:29,533 which means that if they contact you independently, 330 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,033 you would charge them less than if they went through the company. 331 00:13:32,100 --> 00:13:35,233 Okay. So that's gonna cost you 10 bucks. 332 00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:37,400 - Oh. - That's gonna cost you 10 bucks. 333 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:46,300 [theme music playing] 334 00:13:49,300 --> 00:13:54,467 [announcer] Sherry Ary is accusing independent contractor James Furtado 335 00:13:54,533 --> 00:13:57,900 of vandalizing her car after he was suspended. 336 00:13:57,967 --> 00:14:01,533 James claims he was wrongfully terminated by Sherry. 337 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,333 [Judge Judy] I see in your agreement that he signed, 338 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,300 you've put in a four-year period 339 00:14:06,367 --> 00:14:08,900 where he can't go to another company 340 00:14:08,967 --> 00:14:10,600 or drive for anyone else. 341 00:14:10,667 --> 00:14:13,166 That's usually--I thought that--um. 342 00:14:13,333 --> 00:14:16,467 I downloaded that from Swift Forms. 343 00:14:16,533 --> 00:14:18,433 - Oh, well, that's a problem. - [Sherry] Okay. 344 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:22,934 I actually find that four-year non-compete clause 345 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,533 in this kind of situation unconstitutional. 346 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,300 I can understand that if you're a driver 347 00:14:29,367 --> 00:14:31,066 and you get fired, or discharged, 348 00:14:31,133 --> 00:14:32,734 or you quit one company, 349 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,967 I can absolutely understand the provision in this contract 350 00:14:36,033 --> 00:14:38,433 that I guarantee you he didn't read 351 00:14:38,500 --> 00:14:42,233 that says he's not allowed to solicit business by handing out business cards. 352 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:44,066 You're not allowed to do that in here. 353 00:14:44,133 --> 00:14:45,967 - I understand that. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 354 00:14:46,033 --> 00:14:47,800 - That's not harassment. - No. 355 00:14:47,867 --> 00:14:49,934 [Judge Judy] It says that you're not allowed 356 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,633 to solicit business from any of her clients for yourself. 357 00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:54,867 - That's what it says. - Yes. 358 00:14:54,934 --> 00:14:56,967 [Judge Judy] Okay. So you can't do that. 359 00:14:57,033 --> 00:14:59,300 And for that I'm gonna add 360 00:14:59,367 --> 00:15:02,467 probably another 10 bucks to the damage to the car. 361 00:15:02,533 --> 00:15:03,533 Did you find anything? 362 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,667 [Sarah] Yes, so it's a reasonable standard, so... 363 00:15:06,734 --> 00:15:08,066 [Judge Judy] Yeah. Well, I find 364 00:15:08,133 --> 00:15:11,233 if in the state of Florida, the standard is a reasonable period of time. 365 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:13,767 I find four years totally unreasonable. 366 00:15:13,834 --> 00:15:15,500 - Okay. - [Judge Judy] But most contracts, 367 00:15:15,567 --> 00:15:17,400 if you can eliminate one clause 368 00:15:17,467 --> 00:15:20,967 that makes otherwise the contract legal, 369 00:15:21,033 --> 00:15:24,500 you don't necessarily have to void the entire contract. 370 00:15:24,567 --> 00:15:26,500 And there are other provisions in here 371 00:15:26,567 --> 00:15:28,967 that clearly lay out the responsibilities 372 00:15:29,033 --> 00:15:31,200 of both parties to the contract. 373 00:15:31,266 --> 00:15:33,033 So I am deleting 374 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:35,667 because it's an unreasonable period 375 00:15:35,734 --> 00:15:37,100 and therefore unconscionable, 376 00:15:37,165 --> 00:15:40,700 and therefore depriving the defendant the ability 377 00:15:40,767 --> 00:15:42,800 to work and earn a living, 378 00:15:42,867 --> 00:15:44,433 the four years that you've placed in here. 379 00:15:44,500 --> 00:15:46,734 So that part I'm absolutely eliminating. 380 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,400 And is that the breach of contract that you were talking about? 381 00:15:49,467 --> 00:15:52,967 [Sherry] Soliciting to the clients that we have in our contact list. 382 00:15:53,033 --> 00:15:54,266 Well, he's not allowed to do that. 383 00:15:54,333 --> 00:15:55,967 You're not allowed to use her contact list. 384 00:15:56,033 --> 00:15:58,500 I don't know what contact list she's talking about. 385 00:15:58,567 --> 00:16:01,133 But the only kind of soliciting I did was... 386 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,934 - [Judge Judy] Hand out cards? - The cards. 387 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,967 - [Judge Judy] Okay. - So if you look on that card... 388 00:16:06,633 --> 00:16:07,633 can I give you this? 389 00:16:07,700 --> 00:16:10,667 Doesn't say nothing about a business on that card. 390 00:16:12,467 --> 00:16:14,567 It just has my personal information. 391 00:16:15,567 --> 00:16:17,166 Well, it gives your personal information 392 00:16:17,233 --> 00:16:20,700 in the event that they want to contact you independently of her, 393 00:16:20,767 --> 00:16:23,600 which means that if they contact you independently, 394 00:16:23,667 --> 00:16:26,000 you would charge them less than if they went through the company. 395 00:16:26,066 --> 00:16:27,533 - That's what it means. - Okay. 396 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:28,633 - [Judge Judy] Right? - Yup. 397 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:31,333 Yup. Okay. So that's-- it's gonna cost you 10 bucks. 398 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,300 - [James] May I say something about this? - That's gonna cost you 10 bucks. 399 00:16:33,367 --> 00:16:34,367 Oh. 400 00:16:34,433 --> 00:16:35,500 [Judge Judy] That's gonna cost you 10 bucks. 401 00:16:36,667 --> 00:16:38,633 [James] May I say something about this now? 402 00:16:38,700 --> 00:16:40,734 - [Judge Judy] No, not yet. - Okay. 403 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,165 [Judge Judy] How much did you pay in tow fees to get the car from... 404 00:16:44,233 --> 00:16:45,667 - One twenty-five. - [Judge Judy] Hmm? 405 00:16:45,734 --> 00:16:47,000 One twenty-five. 406 00:16:47,066 --> 00:16:49,934 So far he owes you $682. 407 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,533 That's for the damage to the car from cutting the wires 408 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,165 at the maximum price that you gave me, 409 00:16:55,233 --> 00:16:58,000 $129 for some other gizmo, 410 00:16:58,066 --> 00:17:00,967 $10 for passing out his business cards 411 00:17:01,033 --> 00:17:04,165 which is a no, no, and a $125 for towing. 412 00:17:04,233 --> 00:17:06,400 Because you shouldn't have the car towed, sir. 413 00:17:06,467 --> 00:17:08,367 You have the car towed because you were angry. 414 00:17:08,433 --> 00:17:10,900 And she had to spend money to get the car out of towing. 415 00:17:10,967 --> 00:17:14,032 Now you have counterclaim for wrongful termination. 416 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,333 Explain that to me. 417 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,233 [James] I believe that once Ms. Sherry 418 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:22,867 says, "You're suspended." 419 00:17:22,934 --> 00:17:25,200 She gets the car back, you're really fired 420 00:17:25,266 --> 00:17:26,867 cause she don't like to fire people. 421 00:17:26,934 --> 00:17:30,734 [Judge Judy] Well, do you know the reason why 422 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,367 she was suspending you? 423 00:17:32,433 --> 00:17:35,166 Just because I made a comment to another driver. 424 00:17:35,233 --> 00:17:36,600 Okay. 425 00:17:36,667 --> 00:17:37,767 What was the comment? 426 00:17:37,834 --> 00:17:39,200 And what was it about? 427 00:17:39,266 --> 00:17:41,800 [James] It was about how the driver 428 00:17:41,867 --> 00:17:44,333 did not put the pictures 429 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,600 and condition of the cars at the beginning of the shift 430 00:17:47,667 --> 00:17:49,367 like everybody else did 431 00:17:49,433 --> 00:17:51,834 and I just asked her why 432 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:54,333 and she came back and said, 433 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,200 "Well, it's really none of your business." 434 00:17:56,266 --> 00:17:59,400 And then I had another cocky remark I can't say. 435 00:17:59,467 --> 00:18:01,767 - But it's still... - [Judge Judy chuckles] 436 00:18:01,834 --> 00:18:03,900 - I would believe that. - [James] It's still kind of clean though, 437 00:18:03,967 --> 00:18:06,200 it's not really bad, but... 438 00:18:06,266 --> 00:18:08,633 [Judge Judy] Then she said, "Then you're suspended." 439 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:10,900 - Something very minor, yeah. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 440 00:18:10,967 --> 00:18:12,700 And then you said, "I quit?" 441 00:18:12,767 --> 00:18:14,333 [James] I've been telling her for months, 442 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,834 I don't play the suspension game 443 00:18:15,900 --> 00:18:17,967 if you're gonna work me, work me. 444 00:18:18,033 --> 00:18:20,033 If not, that'll be the day I quit. 445 00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:21,100 She knew that. 446 00:18:21,166 --> 00:18:22,500 [Judge Judy] Okay. But don't tell me what you knew. 447 00:18:22,567 --> 00:18:23,800 Did you say, "I quit?" 448 00:18:23,867 --> 00:18:26,100 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] Oh, okay. 449 00:18:26,166 --> 00:18:27,400 Fine. Good. 450 00:18:27,467 --> 00:18:29,900 Then you have no claim for wrongful termination. You quit. 451 00:18:30,533 --> 00:18:32,734 Okay. So Ms. Ary. 452 00:18:33,333 --> 00:18:35,400 The amount of money you were requesting on this claim 453 00:18:35,467 --> 00:18:36,667 is $8,000. 454 00:18:36,734 --> 00:18:38,800 Actually stretching your damages 455 00:18:38,867 --> 00:18:40,500 to as far as I can stretch them. 456 00:18:40,567 --> 00:18:43,033 Your total damage is $682 457 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:44,834 and that's what I'm awarding you on your claim. 458 00:18:44,900 --> 00:18:46,967 The counterclaim is dismissed, we're done. Thank you. 459 00:18:47,033 --> 00:18:48,100 [Kevin] Court is adjourned. 460 00:18:48,166 --> 00:18:50,467 [theme music playing] 461 00:18:50,533 --> 00:18:53,567 Judge Judy always judges fair and just. 462 00:18:53,633 --> 00:18:54,867 I think it was fair. 463 00:18:54,934 --> 00:18:57,433 What he did was injust to the company. 464 00:18:57,500 --> 00:18:59,266 Lies and nothing but lies. 465 00:18:59,333 --> 00:19:01,467 He constantly disrespected other people. 466 00:19:01,533 --> 00:19:04,633 About me being a bad driver, me giving an attitude. 467 00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:06,600 Constantly going off on dispatchers 468 00:19:06,667 --> 00:19:09,600 and just leaving so much stress within the work environment 469 00:19:09,667 --> 00:19:11,000 with everyone that worked with him. 470 00:19:11,066 --> 00:19:12,467 I've got so many reviews. 471 00:19:12,533 --> 00:19:15,100 If you was to go on that website and Google, 472 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:19,567 maybe about 30 of the reviews is all about me 473 00:19:19,633 --> 00:19:21,467 with a good attitude and everything else. 474 00:19:21,533 --> 00:19:25,834 I mean, Velcro and superglue all over the car. 475 00:19:25,900 --> 00:19:27,166 I don't know what she's talking about. 476 00:19:27,233 --> 00:19:29,200 He did not have permission to do that. 477 00:19:29,266 --> 00:19:32,567 Got on your nerves, so I guess I was just over the limit 478 00:19:32,633 --> 00:19:35,300 that day that, you know, all this happened, and... 479 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:38,333 [laughs] I couldn't believe it. 480 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,834 Yeah, just watch out for who you work for. 481 00:19:41,834 --> 00:19:44,667 [Sarah] So although Florida does have a reasonable standard 482 00:19:44,734 --> 00:19:48,934 for non-compete clauses and how long they can last for, 483 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,967 just the quick research I was able to do courts in Florida 484 00:19:52,033 --> 00:19:54,800 seem to deem anything under six months 485 00:19:54,867 --> 00:19:56,000 as reasonable. 486 00:19:56,066 --> 00:19:58,266 And anything over two years 487 00:19:58,333 --> 00:20:01,600 to be unreasonable or in need of more information 488 00:20:01,667 --> 00:20:03,967 of why you need your non-complete clause 489 00:20:04,033 --> 00:20:05,567 to last for that long, so... 490 00:20:05,633 --> 00:20:07,433 - Yeah, it just didn't sound right to me. - [Sarah] Yeah. 491 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:10,033 I mean, he didn't have any real intellectual property 492 00:20:10,100 --> 00:20:12,800 that had to be protected for a long period of time. 493 00:20:12,867 --> 00:20:15,133 And he earned his living by driving cars. 494 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,934 What is he supposed to do for four years? 495 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,133 - Yeah. - [Judge Judy] You know, as I always say, 496 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,967 I may take a different job but I'm not gonna be a ballet dancer. 497 00:20:22,033 --> 00:20:24,233 I'm always gonna stay in my lane. 498 00:20:24,300 --> 00:20:26,600 So to prevent him from staying in his lane 499 00:20:26,667 --> 00:20:28,200 for four years was outrageous. 500 00:20:28,266 --> 00:20:30,734 Anyway, people should take that as a lesson. 501 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,633 When you download forms, they're not always right. 502 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:34,900 Uh-hmm. 503 00:20:36,700 --> 00:20:40,066 [announcer] Want justice? 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