1 00:00:00,167 --> 00:00:02,303 You have no lease to his apartment. 2 00:00:02,370 --> 00:00:04,905 That's what you do as a grown up. 3 00:00:04,972 --> 00:00:06,307 You didn't do that. 4 00:00:06,374 --> 00:00:07,308 That's not true. 5 00:00:07,375 --> 00:00:10,778 He held the apartment for you for six weeks for no money. 6 00:00:10,845 --> 00:00:12,680 You're a hustler, madam. 7 00:00:12,747 --> 00:00:13,881 I am not a hustler. 8 00:00:13,948 --> 00:00:15,349 - [Judge Judy] We are done. - [Kathleen] No. 9 00:00:15,416 --> 00:00:16,917 - I'm not going to do that. - We're done. 10 00:00:16,984 --> 00:00:18,652 - [Judge Judy] Yeah. You are. - No. 11 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:19,720 - [Kevin] This way. - I won't go, no. 12 00:00:19,787 --> 00:00:22,022 [announcer] This is Judy Justice. 13 00:00:23,190 --> 00:00:26,193 [theme music playing] 14 00:00:39,073 --> 00:00:43,411 [announcer] Kathleen Ganley is suing apartment owner Elie Benaron 15 00:00:43,477 --> 00:00:47,415 for moving expenses, hotel costs, and storage fees. 16 00:00:47,481 --> 00:00:48,382 [Kevin] Court come to order. 17 00:00:48,449 --> 00:00:49,283 All rise. 18 00:00:50,718 --> 00:00:51,519 Have a seat, please. 19 00:00:55,022 --> 00:00:56,056 - Hello, Judge. - How are you? 20 00:00:56,123 --> 00:00:58,692 Case number 1163, Ganley versus Benaron. 21 00:00:59,794 --> 00:01:00,861 - Thank you. - You're welcome. 22 00:01:00,928 --> 00:01:03,631 [Judge Judy] Ah, Ms. Ganley, interesting story. 23 00:01:03,697 --> 00:01:06,133 You were moving from Arizona to California? 24 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,034 Correct. 25 00:01:07,101 --> 00:01:09,170 [Judge Judy] And you had a friend. 26 00:01:09,236 --> 00:01:11,172 I assume this was the mutual friend? 27 00:01:11,238 --> 00:01:15,042 I have a very good friend, a friend of his is also... 28 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:16,644 - [Judge Judy] Who is this? - [Kathleen] This is my sister. 29 00:01:16,710 --> 00:01:19,045 [Judge Judy] You knew the defendant through a mutual friend. 30 00:01:19,113 --> 00:01:20,181 Exactly. 31 00:01:20,247 --> 00:01:24,752 You were moving from Arizona to California with a son who was how old? 32 00:01:24,819 --> 00:01:25,652 Fifteen. 33 00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:28,722 And according to you, you want them to go to a good school. 34 00:01:28,789 --> 00:01:32,193 And you found out through this mutual friend that the defendant 35 00:01:32,259 --> 00:01:34,995 had an apartment in California, 36 00:01:35,062 --> 00:01:37,331 in an area where you wanted to live. 37 00:01:37,398 --> 00:01:40,033 You came to look at the apartment. 38 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:44,338 And you came to look at the apartment, I believe in June of this year. 39 00:01:44,405 --> 00:01:45,339 Correct. 40 00:01:45,406 --> 00:01:47,140 - [Judge Judy] And you like the apartment. - Yes. 41 00:01:47,208 --> 00:01:48,809 And you settled on a rent. 42 00:01:48,876 --> 00:01:49,676 Yes. 43 00:01:49,777 --> 00:01:51,679 [Judge Judy] You negotiated the price of the rent. 44 00:01:51,745 --> 00:01:54,014 He wanted more. You wanted to pay less. 45 00:01:54,081 --> 00:01:55,282 How much was he asking? 46 00:01:55,348 --> 00:01:58,919 - How much... - He was asking, I believe, 3,750. 47 00:01:58,985 --> 00:02:00,688 Is that what you were asking, sir? 48 00:02:00,754 --> 00:02:02,389 No. I said I was asking 4,500. 49 00:02:02,456 --> 00:02:03,357 And I said because she's a friend... 50 00:02:03,424 --> 00:02:05,059 [Judge Judy] No, no, no, just a second. 51 00:02:05,125 --> 00:02:07,528 You were asking 4,500. 52 00:02:07,595 --> 00:02:09,830 I was asking 4,500 for the apartment, 53 00:02:09,896 --> 00:02:12,366 but because through a friend, I said I'll give it to you for 4,000. 54 00:02:12,433 --> 00:02:14,201 Had you rented the apartment before? 55 00:02:14,268 --> 00:02:15,503 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] To whom? 56 00:02:15,569 --> 00:02:19,940 To a lady who moved to Utah. 57 00:02:20,007 --> 00:02:21,475 [Judge Judy] How long had she been in the apartment? 58 00:02:21,542 --> 00:02:22,376 Three years. 59 00:02:22,476 --> 00:02:23,477 When did she leave? 60 00:02:24,612 --> 00:02:28,616 Three, four... two months before this incident. 61 00:02:28,682 --> 00:02:31,151 So she left relatively, so maybe in May? 62 00:02:31,218 --> 00:02:32,052 Yeah. 63 00:02:32,186 --> 00:02:33,387 [Judge Judy] And how much was she paying in rent? 64 00:02:33,454 --> 00:02:34,321 Thirty-eight. 65 00:02:34,388 --> 00:02:37,925 And you agreed with the defendant you wanted four, 66 00:02:37,992 --> 00:02:40,928 she says 3,700. I'm not sure I believe her. 67 00:02:40,995 --> 00:02:44,231 You're finally fixed on 3,500, correct? 68 00:02:44,298 --> 00:02:45,199 Yes. 69 00:02:45,266 --> 00:02:48,502 [Judge Judy] Which is according to you $300 less 70 00:02:48,569 --> 00:02:51,071 than you were getting from your previous tenant. 71 00:02:51,138 --> 00:02:52,273 - Correct. - [Judge Judy] Who had been there, 72 00:02:52,339 --> 00:02:55,109 well, that was nice of you, $3,500. 73 00:02:55,175 --> 00:03:00,114 And you were supposed to provide him with security deposit? 74 00:03:00,247 --> 00:03:01,615 How much? 75 00:03:01,682 --> 00:03:05,152 Thirty-five hundred. So the total would've been 6,000. 76 00:03:05,219 --> 00:03:07,655 - I'm gonna do this my way. - Okay. Sorry. 77 00:03:07,721 --> 00:03:10,858 [Judge Judy] You were supposed to provide him with security deposit. 78 00:03:10,925 --> 00:03:14,962 When you saw the apartment in July because now you are, 79 00:03:15,029 --> 00:03:16,864 if you wanna take the apartment, 80 00:03:16,931 --> 00:03:19,500 you want him to stop showing the apartment? 81 00:03:19,567 --> 00:03:21,769 This is before... 82 00:03:21,835 --> 00:03:24,004 this is before I got to LA, yes, to depart... 83 00:03:24,071 --> 00:03:25,606 You went to see the apartment... 84 00:03:25,673 --> 00:03:26,507 [Kathleen] In June. 85 00:03:26,574 --> 00:03:27,508 [Judge Judy] ...for the first time in June. 86 00:03:27,575 --> 00:03:28,409 Yes. 87 00:03:28,475 --> 00:03:29,910 And in June, you said you'd take it. 88 00:03:29,977 --> 00:03:30,811 [Kathleen] Correct. 89 00:03:30,911 --> 00:03:33,647 [Judge Judy] So you clearly wanted him 90 00:03:33,714 --> 00:03:36,483 to stop showing the apartment to other people. 91 00:03:36,550 --> 00:03:37,952 He--we were done, yes. 92 00:03:38,018 --> 00:03:38,819 [Judge Judy] Great. 93 00:03:38,918 --> 00:03:42,823 And how much money did you give him in June then? 94 00:03:42,890 --> 00:03:44,992 We--and I have the text messages here. 95 00:03:45,059 --> 00:03:46,560 [Judge Judy] That's a--just a second. 96 00:03:46,627 --> 00:03:47,761 - [Kathleen] Well... - That's a number. 97 00:03:47,828 --> 00:03:49,430 In June I gave him nothing. 98 00:03:49,496 --> 00:03:51,999 [Judge Judy] So in June you gave him nothing. 99 00:03:52,066 --> 00:03:54,501 June what, did you come looking at the apartment? 100 00:03:54,567 --> 00:03:56,403 - Because this is what it all comes down. - Okay. 101 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:57,438 [Judge Judy] This is what the case all comes down to. 102 00:03:57,504 --> 00:03:58,339 Okay. 103 00:03:58,405 --> 00:04:01,742 So that people aren't wondering out there what this case is all about. 104 00:04:01,809 --> 00:04:03,744 - You... - On the evening of June 1st... 105 00:04:03,811 --> 00:04:04,845 [Judge Judy] I'm speaking. 106 00:04:04,912 --> 00:04:05,980 I thought you asked me the date, I'm sorry. 107 00:04:06,046 --> 00:04:06,880 [Judge Judy] No. 108 00:04:06,947 --> 00:04:09,083 This is what the case is all about. 109 00:04:09,149 --> 00:04:11,752 In case anybody is wondering what the case is all about. 110 00:04:11,819 --> 00:04:16,423 Ms. Ganley is suing the defendant for $10,000 111 00:04:16,490 --> 00:04:19,726 because he reneged on an agreement to rent her an apartment. 112 00:04:19,793 --> 00:04:22,997 That's what you're suing him for, for your moving costs and everything else. 113 00:04:23,063 --> 00:04:24,198 - That's what you're suing for. - Correct. 114 00:04:24,264 --> 00:04:26,332 [Judge Judy] You saw the apartment June 1st, 115 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,635 you gave him no money. 116 00:04:27,701 --> 00:04:28,535 Correct. 117 00:04:28,602 --> 00:04:30,137 [Judge Judy] You signed no lease. 118 00:04:30,204 --> 00:04:31,071 Correct. 119 00:04:31,138 --> 00:04:34,842 You were moving into the apartment on what date? 120 00:04:34,908 --> 00:04:36,377 July 15th. 121 00:04:36,443 --> 00:04:39,680 [Judge Judy] Between June 1st and July 15th, 122 00:04:39,747 --> 00:04:41,649 how much money had you sent him? 123 00:04:41,715 --> 00:04:43,082 $1,000. 124 00:04:43,150 --> 00:04:44,451 On what date? 125 00:04:44,518 --> 00:04:49,523 The date that I sent the money was two days after he requested it 126 00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:54,695 and it was July 12th was one. 127 00:04:54,762 --> 00:04:58,899 Well, usually when you go and see an apartment, Ms. Ganley, 128 00:04:58,966 --> 00:05:00,000 and you're not a child. 129 00:05:00,067 --> 00:05:00,968 Correct. 130 00:05:01,035 --> 00:05:03,270 I haven't rented an apartment in a long time. 131 00:05:03,337 --> 00:05:05,639 But I have a pretty fixed memory. 132 00:05:05,706 --> 00:05:08,375 You go and look at an apartment, you say, "I like it." 133 00:05:08,442 --> 00:05:11,745 You go with the person who was renting the apartment, 134 00:05:11,812 --> 00:05:14,815 you sign a lease, you give them a check, 135 00:05:14,882 --> 00:05:18,118 you give them the date when the lease is going to be signed. 136 00:05:18,185 --> 00:05:20,988 And then you have a signed lease, 137 00:05:21,055 --> 00:05:23,791 and he has his security deposit, 138 00:05:23,857 --> 00:05:27,728 first month's rent, sometimes they require last month's rent. 139 00:05:27,795 --> 00:05:31,165 In this case, what were you supposed to give him? 140 00:05:31,231 --> 00:05:32,666 A month's rent? 141 00:05:32,733 --> 00:05:34,368 And how much security? 142 00:05:34,435 --> 00:05:37,037 At the-- may I just tell it from the beginning? 143 00:05:37,104 --> 00:05:38,172 - No. - [Kathleen] Okay. 144 00:05:38,238 --> 00:05:41,075 Well, we didn't speak on... 145 00:05:41,141 --> 00:05:42,176 [Judge Judy] Just a second. 146 00:05:42,242 --> 00:05:44,445 You came and looked at the apartment. 147 00:05:44,511 --> 00:05:47,014 And because he was a friend of a friend... 148 00:05:47,081 --> 00:05:47,915 We talked about the rent. 149 00:05:47,981 --> 00:05:51,518 [Judge Judy] ...of a friend, of a friend, of a friend, of a friend, 150 00:05:51,585 --> 00:05:54,455 you gave him no money and you asked him... 151 00:05:54,521 --> 00:05:58,025 you expected him to take his apartment 152 00:05:58,092 --> 00:06:02,196 out of circulation until you got there on July 15th. 153 00:06:02,262 --> 00:06:05,866 Even though he gave you a rent that was less 154 00:06:05,933 --> 00:06:08,569 than what he was getting from his previous tenant. 155 00:06:08,635 --> 00:06:10,304 That's a pretty good deal. 156 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:12,306 I asked you for a number. 157 00:06:12,372 --> 00:06:17,277 How much money were you supposed to give him for the apartment? 158 00:06:17,344 --> 00:06:18,512 How much security? 159 00:06:18,579 --> 00:06:23,082 He requested zero security deposit when I met him. 160 00:06:23,183 --> 00:06:24,017 I asked you... 161 00:06:24,084 --> 00:06:27,955 He told me in July to, uh, that a $3,000 security deposit. 162 00:06:28,021 --> 00:06:31,625 Three thousand dollars and your month's rent. 163 00:06:31,692 --> 00:06:32,526 Correct. 164 00:06:32,593 --> 00:06:34,061 Which was 3,500. 165 00:06:34,128 --> 00:06:34,928 Correct. 166 00:06:35,028 --> 00:06:37,531 [Judge Judy] So 6,500 altogether 167 00:06:37,598 --> 00:06:40,334 and you had already given him $1,000. 168 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,235 Correct. 169 00:06:41,301 --> 00:06:46,140 So you owed him $5,500 that he agreed. 170 00:06:46,206 --> 00:06:47,374 Nice guy, 171 00:06:47,441 --> 00:06:50,811 so far, really nice guy, 172 00:06:50,878 --> 00:06:52,746 gave you a cheaper rent 173 00:06:52,813 --> 00:06:55,549 than what was the going rate that you understood 174 00:06:55,616 --> 00:06:57,451 'cause you moved into Beverly Hills. 175 00:06:57,518 --> 00:06:59,386 He was giving you less rent 176 00:06:59,453 --> 00:07:01,755 than what he was getting from his former tenant. 177 00:07:01,822 --> 00:07:05,125 He held the apartment for you for six weeks for no money. 178 00:07:05,192 --> 00:07:06,894 Thousand dollars, no money. 179 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:07,795 By the way, he gave... 180 00:07:07,861 --> 00:07:08,729 He was ready for it. 181 00:07:08,796 --> 00:07:10,030 [Judge Judy] Just a second, just a second. 182 00:07:10,097 --> 00:07:13,066 He gave you the thousand dollars back by the way. 183 00:07:13,167 --> 00:07:14,001 Yes. 184 00:07:14,067 --> 00:07:15,235 [Judge Judy] Did you cash that check? 185 00:07:15,302 --> 00:07:16,103 Yes, I did. 186 00:07:16,170 --> 00:07:18,772 Oh, then you're one and done. 187 00:07:21,041 --> 00:07:23,243 When you went to Wells Fargo 188 00:07:23,310 --> 00:07:26,180 and got the check for $5,000, 189 00:07:26,246 --> 00:07:29,516 you went there knowing that you owed him 5,500. 190 00:07:29,582 --> 00:07:30,417 Correct. 191 00:07:30,484 --> 00:07:32,352 Ms. Ganley, you're a hustler. 192 00:07:37,090 --> 00:07:39,793 [theme music playing] 193 00:07:43,230 --> 00:07:46,233 [announcer] Kathleen Ganley, claims apartment owner, 194 00:07:46,300 --> 00:07:50,504 Elie Benaron, owes for moving expenses and hotel costs 195 00:07:50,571 --> 00:07:54,842 after refusing to rent his apartment after she paid him a deposit. 196 00:07:54,908 --> 00:07:56,777 Now, I'm not finished yet. 197 00:07:57,311 --> 00:08:02,049 Then, according to you, you got there with your son from Arizona 198 00:08:02,115 --> 00:08:04,284 with a U-Haul and a mover 199 00:08:04,351 --> 00:08:06,186 and you had with you 200 00:08:06,253 --> 00:08:10,657 a cashier's check for $5,000. 201 00:08:10,724 --> 00:08:12,426 Now, when did you get 202 00:08:12,492 --> 00:08:15,529 that cashier's check for $5,000? 203 00:08:15,596 --> 00:08:16,830 July 14th. 204 00:08:16,897 --> 00:08:20,033 Where did you get the cashier's check for $5,000? 205 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:21,735 Wells Fargo in Arizona. 206 00:08:21,802 --> 00:08:23,637 [Judge Judy] Is that where you have your bank account? 207 00:08:23,704 --> 00:08:24,504 Yes, it is. 208 00:08:24,605 --> 00:08:26,907 And when you went to Wells Fargo 209 00:08:26,974 --> 00:08:29,843 and got the check for $5,000, 210 00:08:29,910 --> 00:08:33,679 you went there knowing that you owed him 5,500. 211 00:08:33,746 --> 00:08:34,548 Correct. 212 00:08:34,648 --> 00:08:37,650 Your excuse for that is, 213 00:08:37,751 --> 00:08:41,722 that you were going to pay him the rest by some Zelle account. 214 00:08:41,788 --> 00:08:44,290 - Which is how he had requested it. - [Judge Judy] No. 215 00:08:44,358 --> 00:08:46,426 Show me how he requested. 216 00:08:46,493 --> 00:08:47,861 On July 14th, 217 00:08:47,928 --> 00:08:52,699 show me how he requested payment by a Zelle account. 218 00:08:52,766 --> 00:08:56,770 - I want you--that's a simple... - He didn't request in on July 14th. 219 00:08:56,837 --> 00:08:58,205 ...simple, simple, simple. 220 00:08:58,272 --> 00:09:00,440 [Kathleen] He didn't--he didn't request it then. 221 00:09:00,507 --> 00:09:01,808 [Judge Judy] Ms. Ganley. 222 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:03,977 - Listen, you're a hustler. - No, ma'am, I'm not. 223 00:09:04,044 --> 00:09:05,879 [Judge Judy] You're a hustler, you're a hustler. 224 00:09:05,946 --> 00:09:07,981 - No. - [Judge Judy] What you could've done 225 00:09:08,048 --> 00:09:11,151 very easily was the day before you were there. 226 00:09:11,218 --> 00:09:13,620 You got there on July 14th. 227 00:09:13,687 --> 00:09:17,891 When you went to Wells Fargo and got a cashier's check, 228 00:09:17,958 --> 00:09:22,963 you get a cashier's check for $5,500 that is as good as cash, like that. 229 00:09:23,030 --> 00:09:26,266 Instead, you talked him down with the rent, 230 00:09:26,333 --> 00:09:29,503 little bit, little bit, little bit, little bit, little bit. 231 00:09:29,569 --> 00:09:30,370 [Kathleen] May I show you the text? 232 00:09:30,437 --> 00:09:32,639 [Judge Judy] You owed him, you owed him-- yeah, maybe I'm wrong. 233 00:09:32,706 --> 00:09:35,475 You owed him, it's his apartment. 234 00:09:35,542 --> 00:09:37,144 He wants to rent it. 235 00:09:37,210 --> 00:09:41,248 He is in a position of wanting to rent his commodity. 236 00:09:41,315 --> 00:09:43,417 He had somebody 237 00:09:43,483 --> 00:09:47,287 who was ready, willing, and able he thought to rent that commodity. 238 00:09:47,354 --> 00:09:52,092 It's not that he had somebody else in the wings to rent your apartment. 239 00:09:52,159 --> 00:09:54,328 He was renting his apartment to you. 240 00:09:54,394 --> 00:09:56,229 You were, in my view, 241 00:09:56,296 --> 00:09:59,433 trying to get away with the 500 bucks then... 242 00:09:59,499 --> 00:10:00,367 [Kathleen] Uh-hmm. 243 00:10:00,434 --> 00:10:01,401 ...at that moment. 244 00:10:01,468 --> 00:10:03,503 Why would I drive a U-Haul 245 00:10:03,570 --> 00:10:06,807 and pay all that money there to try to save $500? 246 00:10:06,873 --> 00:10:08,175 - I'd love to show you... - Just a second. 247 00:10:08,241 --> 00:10:10,610 I would love to see. 248 00:10:10,677 --> 00:10:15,582 Kevin, I would love to see that on or about July 14th, 249 00:10:15,649 --> 00:10:19,853 he said to you, "Give me a cashier's check for 5,000 250 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,223 and pay the rest by Zelle by, 251 00:10:23,757 --> 00:10:25,659 by some other commodity." 252 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,327 It doesn't make sense. 253 00:10:27,394 --> 00:10:28,595 Here's the--this is the date. 254 00:10:28,662 --> 00:10:29,663 [Judge Judy] What's the date? 255 00:10:29,730 --> 00:10:31,198 That he requested the deposit. 256 00:10:31,264 --> 00:10:33,934 No, no, no. What's the date when he told you... 257 00:10:34,001 --> 00:10:36,269 July 6th is when he requested the deposit. 258 00:10:36,336 --> 00:10:37,804 - [Judge Judy] Just... - By Zelle. 259 00:10:37,871 --> 00:10:38,805 [Judge Judy] Just a second. 260 00:10:38,872 --> 00:10:42,075 July 6th he requested the deposit by Zelle. 261 00:10:42,142 --> 00:10:43,143 Did you send it? 262 00:10:43,210 --> 00:10:44,378 I--Zelle only allows you to send... 263 00:10:44,444 --> 00:10:45,846 [Judge Judy] No, no, no, don't tell... 264 00:10:45,912 --> 00:10:48,382 I sent the max possible on a day. 265 00:10:48,448 --> 00:10:49,649 Zelle only allows you to spend $500. 266 00:10:49,716 --> 00:10:52,452 Who gives--who gives 267 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:55,188 a rat's behind what they said to you? 268 00:10:55,255 --> 00:10:57,858 Just like you went into Wells Fargo 269 00:10:57,924 --> 00:10:59,826 on the 14th of July, 270 00:10:59,893 --> 00:11:03,530 just like you went into Wells Fargo on the 14th of July. 271 00:11:03,597 --> 00:11:05,766 On July 6th, when he sends you, 272 00:11:05,832 --> 00:11:07,367 "Please send me the deposit," 273 00:11:07,434 --> 00:11:09,436 you go into Wells Fargo, 274 00:11:09,503 --> 00:11:12,139 you get a money order, a bank check. 275 00:11:12,205 --> 00:11:14,374 You put it in a FedEx 276 00:11:14,441 --> 00:11:15,442 and you send it to him. 277 00:11:15,509 --> 00:11:17,878 You saw the apartment June 1st. 278 00:11:17,944 --> 00:11:21,681 July 6th, he said, "All right, time to get off the dime. 279 00:11:21,748 --> 00:11:23,316 I'm holding the apartment. 280 00:11:23,383 --> 00:11:26,987 It's now a month, please send me the deposit." 281 00:11:27,054 --> 00:11:29,656 So you say, "Well, I'll give him a thousand dollars, 282 00:11:29,723 --> 00:11:31,558 I'll give him five hundred dollars." 283 00:11:31,625 --> 00:11:33,193 That's what he was asking for. 284 00:11:33,260 --> 00:11:35,762 But then July 14th, 285 00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:37,030 when you went there, 286 00:11:37,097 --> 00:11:38,832 you were still 500... 287 00:11:38,899 --> 00:11:42,135 I'm not interested in looking at anything 288 00:11:42,202 --> 00:11:44,771 except that he said to you 289 00:11:44,838 --> 00:11:48,575 when you got there July 15th, 290 00:11:49,009 --> 00:11:51,545 "Give me a cashier's check 291 00:11:51,611 --> 00:11:53,780 and a Zelle payment for $500." 292 00:11:53,847 --> 00:11:55,415 That's what you decided to. 293 00:11:55,482 --> 00:12:00,487 I sent him a text and he responded with an emoji of thumbs up. 294 00:12:00,554 --> 00:12:03,223 It's, it's a--he responded to the text saying that's a... 295 00:12:03,290 --> 00:12:04,424 You're a hustler, madam. 296 00:12:04,491 --> 00:12:05,492 [Kathleen] I'm not a hustler. 297 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,095 [Judge Judy] And you are not getting $10,000 from this man. 298 00:12:08,161 --> 00:12:10,197 And you won't-- and you won't look at the evidence? 299 00:12:10,263 --> 00:12:12,466 I'm absolutely going to look at the evidence. 300 00:12:12,532 --> 00:12:14,434 I'm telling you that you're a hustler. 301 00:12:14,501 --> 00:12:16,603 - Okay, well, here's the evidence. - [Judge Judy] I'm telling you, 302 00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:17,904 - you're a hustler. - Well, you're wrong. 303 00:12:17,971 --> 00:12:21,708 - Sir. Okay, I'm sorry. - Kevin, you can get it. 304 00:12:21,775 --> 00:12:24,311 I'm telling you, you're a hustler... 305 00:12:24,377 --> 00:12:25,979 [Kathleen] Please show her that. 306 00:12:26,046 --> 00:12:30,717 ...because, because on July 14th, when you went to Wells Fargo, 307 00:12:30,784 --> 00:12:35,355 I as a normal person, knowing that he wanted a deposit, 308 00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:38,125 on July 6th, I say, "You know what? 309 00:12:38,191 --> 00:12:39,826 I'm going all the way there. 310 00:12:39,893 --> 00:12:42,762 I'm packing up my son, I'm packing up my U-Haul, 311 00:12:42,829 --> 00:12:46,900 Wells Fargo is where I do my banking. They also have Wells Fargo here. 312 00:12:46,967 --> 00:12:51,104 So you didn't take out your last dollar, I'm going to get a bank check. 313 00:12:51,171 --> 00:12:52,806 So he knows he has the money, 314 00:12:52,873 --> 00:12:56,143 'cause now he's been waiting for it for six weeks. 315 00:12:56,209 --> 00:13:00,580 And I'm gonna give him a bank check for $5,500 'cause that's what I owe him." 316 00:13:00,647 --> 00:13:02,048 You didn't do that. 317 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:05,218 You gave him $5,000. 318 00:13:05,285 --> 00:13:07,154 And I have to say to myself, 319 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:09,656 why would you do that? 320 00:13:09,723 --> 00:13:13,293 Why would you do that? It's like saying, "I have $5,000 in cash. 321 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,962 And I'm gonna give you $5,000 in cash. 322 00:13:16,029 --> 00:13:19,900 And I'm going to give you $500 in a note 323 00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:22,035 that I'm not getting right then and there. 324 00:13:22,102 --> 00:13:25,272 But I'm gonna move my things into the apartment, 325 00:13:25,338 --> 00:13:27,040 and then I'm there. 326 00:13:27,107 --> 00:13:30,177 And then when I have the other $500, 327 00:13:30,243 --> 00:13:32,646 I'm gonna give you the other $500." 328 00:13:32,712 --> 00:13:34,247 And in addition, what he said, 329 00:13:34,314 --> 00:13:38,385 "Listen, if this is the way I'm going to do business with you, 330 00:13:38,451 --> 00:13:40,487 you gave me 5,000 331 00:13:40,554 --> 00:13:43,557 in a cashier's check, it's $500 short." 332 00:13:43,623 --> 00:13:46,493 I don't want to start with a tenant like this right away. 333 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:47,928 No, that's what we agreed to ahead of time. 334 00:13:47,994 --> 00:13:51,164 [Judge Judy] I know, I--here's your thousand dollars back that you gave me, 335 00:13:51,231 --> 00:13:54,434 you took the check, and you cashed it 336 00:13:54,501 --> 00:13:55,802 and that was... 337 00:13:57,470 --> 00:13:58,471 finished. 338 00:13:58,538 --> 00:14:00,473 He said, "I don't want you as a tenant." 339 00:14:00,540 --> 00:14:02,475 You have a signed lease by both of you? 340 00:14:02,542 --> 00:14:03,877 I have a signed--no. 341 00:14:03,944 --> 00:14:05,879 [Judge Judy] No. So you have no lease. 342 00:14:05,946 --> 00:14:09,416 So you see, if you're in Arizona 343 00:14:09,482 --> 00:14:13,887 and you wanna send him his deposit that he wants over, 344 00:14:13,954 --> 00:14:15,622 and people do that all the time, 345 00:14:15,689 --> 00:14:20,160 they buy property in the mail, they buy property over email, 346 00:14:20,227 --> 00:14:21,828 they have DocuSign, 347 00:14:21,895 --> 00:14:26,166 you can do all that between June 1st And July 15th. 348 00:14:26,233 --> 00:14:28,268 You chose not to do that. 349 00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:32,005 You're not entitled to any money. 350 00:14:32,072 --> 00:14:34,441 - That's not true. - He's not responsible 351 00:14:34,507 --> 00:14:37,844 for your having to find another apartment which costs you more money. 352 00:14:37,911 --> 00:14:39,312 You're a grown woman. 353 00:14:39,379 --> 00:14:41,948 And if you saw an apartment that was a bargain, 354 00:14:42,015 --> 00:14:43,083 you hop on it. 355 00:14:47,821 --> 00:14:50,890 [theme music playing] 356 00:14:54,494 --> 00:14:57,597 [announcer] Kathleen Ganley has accused apartment owner, 357 00:14:57,664 --> 00:15:02,669 Elie Benaron, of refusing to rent his apartment after she paid a deposit. 358 00:15:02,736 --> 00:15:06,673 Elie says he changed his mind and refunded her deposits. 359 00:15:06,740 --> 00:15:09,876 [Judge Judy] Now, on what date did he send you the lease? 360 00:15:09,943 --> 00:15:11,578 - He sent me... - [Judge Judy] Just a sec. 361 00:15:11,645 --> 00:15:14,581 I'm gonna go to you. On what date did you send her the lease? 362 00:15:14,648 --> 00:15:16,616 July 10th. 363 00:15:16,683 --> 00:15:18,618 You sent her the lease on July 10th? 364 00:15:18,685 --> 00:15:21,087 - 10th. - [Judge Judy] Did you send it by email? 365 00:15:21,154 --> 00:15:23,523 By email and I told her to respond with the-- 366 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:25,558 sign the lease and send it back. 367 00:15:25,625 --> 00:15:27,560 Or at least acknowledge she got the lease. 368 00:15:27,627 --> 00:15:30,130 - I didn't hear from her. - You have all the text there. 369 00:15:30,196 --> 00:15:31,431 [Judge Judy] So, can I see 370 00:15:31,498 --> 00:15:34,901 the email that you sent her with the lease, do you have it with you? 371 00:15:34,968 --> 00:15:37,304 I have it on my phone. Can I pull it off with my phone? 372 00:15:37,370 --> 00:15:38,438 Yes. 373 00:15:40,473 --> 00:15:42,175 So when you got the lease, 374 00:15:42,242 --> 00:15:43,410 you changed it. 375 00:15:43,476 --> 00:15:45,912 I made an edit as I said in the text to him there. 376 00:15:45,979 --> 00:15:47,147 - So you changed it... - [Kathleen] Yes. 377 00:15:47,213 --> 00:15:48,381 - ...and initialed it. - [Kathleen] Yes. 378 00:15:48,448 --> 00:15:51,117 And he didn't send it on July 10th. 379 00:15:51,184 --> 00:15:53,586 - When did he send it? - [Kathleen] I gave him my email 380 00:15:53,653 --> 00:15:54,821 on July 13th. 381 00:15:55,822 --> 00:15:57,757 [Elie] Sorry, apologize July 13th, yes. 382 00:15:57,824 --> 00:16:00,093 - Here is the email, here is the text. - [Judge Judy] Uh-hmm. 383 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,561 And I'll open it for you. 384 00:16:08,568 --> 00:16:10,537 [Kathleen] In the evening, 385 00:16:10,603 --> 00:16:13,506 the day before we were loading to move. 386 00:16:13,573 --> 00:16:17,177 And I wrote, please acknowledge receiving it, never heard from her. 387 00:16:17,243 --> 00:16:19,079 We spoke on the phone, sir. 388 00:16:19,145 --> 00:16:20,513 You're not entitled to any money. 389 00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:22,749 - That's not true. - [Judge Judy] Well, I'm telling you 390 00:16:22,816 --> 00:16:26,786 - that you're not entitled to any money. - But you haven't heard my story 391 00:16:26,853 --> 00:16:28,421 or seen the evidence. 392 00:16:28,488 --> 00:16:29,856 - What I'm... - [Kathleen] I have not. 393 00:16:29,923 --> 00:16:31,825 What I'm telling you, madam, is the following. 394 00:16:31,891 --> 00:16:33,793 You have no lease to his apartment. 395 00:16:33,860 --> 00:16:36,496 - We had a view of the contract. - [Judge Judy] You have--no, no. 396 00:16:36,563 --> 00:16:38,765 You had no lease to his apartment. 397 00:16:38,832 --> 00:16:40,667 And you accepted 398 00:16:40,734 --> 00:16:44,337 in satisfaction of having no lease, 399 00:16:44,404 --> 00:16:48,975 a thousand dollars which is what you gave him and you cashed it. 400 00:16:49,042 --> 00:16:53,146 And he's not responsible for your having to find another apartment 401 00:16:53,213 --> 00:16:54,681 which cost you more money. 402 00:16:54,748 --> 00:16:57,250 You had a responsibility. 403 00:16:57,317 --> 00:16:58,818 You're a grown woman. 404 00:16:58,885 --> 00:17:01,554 And if you saw an apartment that was a bargain, 405 00:17:01,621 --> 00:17:02,756 you hop on it. 406 00:17:02,822 --> 00:17:06,559 Say, "I want my lease. I wanna sign it. 407 00:17:06,626 --> 00:17:10,363 I wanna give you the money that... right now for it. 408 00:17:10,430 --> 00:17:13,098 So I know it's mine and I know it's held." 409 00:17:13,165 --> 00:17:16,236 That's what you do as a grownup. You didn't do that. 410 00:17:16,301 --> 00:17:20,306 You had the perfect opportunity to get a cashier's check 411 00:17:20,373 --> 00:17:23,343 for $5,500 the day before you went there. 412 00:17:23,410 --> 00:17:26,413 And you didn't. And you modified the lease 413 00:17:26,479 --> 00:17:28,748 before he signed it. So you had no lease. 414 00:17:28,815 --> 00:17:32,652 You had no written lease when there was supposed to be a written lease. 415 00:17:32,719 --> 00:17:36,189 This wasn't a verbal, month-to-month tenancy. 416 00:17:36,256 --> 00:17:39,459 This was not a verbal month-to-month tenancy. 417 00:17:39,526 --> 00:17:40,827 [Kathleen] No, it was not. 418 00:17:40,894 --> 00:17:42,729 - [Judge Judy] Right. - It was a 12-month lease. 419 00:17:42,796 --> 00:17:46,599 [Judge Judy] That's--a lease for a year or more has to be in writing. 420 00:17:46,666 --> 00:17:48,067 - Not... - [Judge Judy] And I'm telling you, 421 00:17:48,134 --> 00:17:50,603 you did not have a written lease 422 00:17:50,670 --> 00:17:54,441 with him and you fail to fulfill the terms of the lease 423 00:17:54,507 --> 00:17:58,344 by not bringing a sufficient amount of money with you. 424 00:17:58,411 --> 00:18:01,014 - Your case is dismissed. - [Kathleen] No, ma'am. 425 00:18:01,147 --> 00:18:02,282 - We are done. - No. I... 426 00:18:02,348 --> 00:18:03,716 - [Kevin] Court is adjourned. - [Judge Judy] We are done. 427 00:18:03,783 --> 00:18:05,685 If you'd just humor me to hear the story, please. 428 00:18:05,752 --> 00:18:07,921 - We are done. - [Kathleen] No, I'm not going to do that. 429 00:18:07,987 --> 00:18:10,890 - [Judge Judy] Yeah. You are. - [Kevin] Sir, step this way. 430 00:18:10,957 --> 00:18:12,025 - My phone, yeah, my phone. - Well, then there's a breach of contract, 431 00:18:12,091 --> 00:18:13,827 right? Because you told me we were gonna hear-- 432 00:18:13,893 --> 00:18:14,894 you were gonna hear the case. 433 00:18:14,961 --> 00:18:16,496 - [Judge Judy] I heard my case. - [Kathleen] You did not hear... 434 00:18:16,563 --> 00:18:18,331 - Ma'am, ma'am. This way. - [Kathleen] No. I won't go, no. 435 00:18:18,398 --> 00:18:20,366 - [Kevin] The case is over. - I'm not going. 436 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:21,734 - Case is over. - I said I never got to speak, 437 00:18:21,801 --> 00:18:22,802 I'm not going. 438 00:18:22,869 --> 00:18:26,239 Well, I was very disappointed that I didn't get to explain 439 00:18:26,306 --> 00:18:27,740 the sequence of events. 440 00:18:27,807 --> 00:18:31,077 I think she made the right decision. Judge Judy knows what she's saying. 441 00:18:31,144 --> 00:18:35,515 So I'm extremely disappointed with her decision there. 442 00:18:35,582 --> 00:18:40,620 When people born and, uh, they're a gift to the world, she was the opposite. 443 00:18:40,687 --> 00:18:44,057 We started communicating again in July. 444 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:45,458 I reached out to him. 445 00:18:45,525 --> 00:18:48,862 She tried to get in with no money and then not to pay the rent. 446 00:18:48,928 --> 00:18:52,599 - I was assuming. - The deposit was not requested until-- 447 00:18:52,665 --> 00:18:55,668 the amount was never mentioned until the 10th of July. 448 00:18:55,735 --> 00:18:59,639 The straw that broke the camel's back, the $500. She did a mistake. 449 00:18:59,706 --> 00:19:01,841 I don't think he changed his mind, we hadn't talked about it. 450 00:19:01,908 --> 00:19:06,613 No, no, she say, "Here is 5,000 and I'll give you later another 500." 451 00:19:06,679 --> 00:19:09,249 And I said, "I'm not accepting later 500." 452 00:19:09,315 --> 00:19:12,018 We have a chain of communications, he knew I was coming. 453 00:19:12,085 --> 00:19:13,052 She is a hustler. 454 00:19:13,987 --> 00:19:15,054 [Sarah] So I'm just curious, 455 00:19:15,121 --> 00:19:19,526 would you have felt any different about the plaintiff being a hustler 456 00:19:19,592 --> 00:19:22,028 if she had not cashed that thousand-dollar check 457 00:19:22,095 --> 00:19:24,831 that he had refunded her for what she had paid towards her deposit? 458 00:19:24,898 --> 00:19:28,434 I would still have thought that she was a hustler. 459 00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:31,738 But accepting the check back from him, 460 00:19:31,804 --> 00:19:33,907 I mean, if the check was given to secure... 461 00:19:33,973 --> 00:19:35,608 - her argument was given... - [Sarah] Uh-hmm. 462 00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:37,043 ...to secure the apartment, 463 00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:40,947 even though it wasn't the full amount that was necessary 464 00:19:41,014 --> 00:19:43,116 that he asked for the beginning of July... 465 00:19:43,182 --> 00:19:44,250 - [Sarah] Uh-hmm. - ...and she ignored him. 466 00:19:44,317 --> 00:19:47,754 But since she took the check and cashed the check 467 00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:51,491 that says to me, his obligation to her is finished. 468 00:19:51,558 --> 00:19:54,627 The fact that she had to go and find another apartment 469 00:19:54,694 --> 00:19:56,663 could have been very easily rectified. 470 00:19:56,729 --> 00:19:57,997 This is a man. 471 00:19:58,064 --> 00:19:59,332 He's a landlord. 472 00:19:59,399 --> 00:20:01,868 He has a commodity from which he makes money, 473 00:20:01,935 --> 00:20:06,072 which probably costs him maintenance and taxes 474 00:20:06,139 --> 00:20:09,742 that he has to pay for every month that the apartment lays fallow. 475 00:20:09,809 --> 00:20:13,146 - Uh-hmm. - He agreed because of a friendship 476 00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:16,716 with a mutual friend to rent this woman an apartment 477 00:20:16,783 --> 00:20:18,851 - for less than it's going rate. - Yeah. 478 00:20:18,918 --> 00:20:20,453 And he held it for a month. 479 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,022 - For no money. - [Judge Judy] Really for no money. 480 00:20:23,089 --> 00:20:26,826 She got the lease, she made a-- an alteration on the lease, 481 00:20:26,893 --> 00:20:28,428 she never sent it back. 482 00:20:28,494 --> 00:20:30,430 She never acknowledged that she had it. 483 00:20:30,496 --> 00:20:33,299 The day before she left Arizona, she went to the bank 484 00:20:33,366 --> 00:20:37,170 knowing that she owes him $5,500. 485 00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:40,473 And she took out a check for 5,000. 486 00:20:40,540 --> 00:20:43,476 - And paid for a check for 5,000. - Weird. 487 00:20:43,543 --> 00:20:47,981 You know, I've been in this business and heard these landlord and tenant things 488 00:20:48,047 --> 00:20:51,851 long enough to know, once she moved her things 489 00:20:51,918 --> 00:20:54,320 into that apartment, 490 00:20:54,387 --> 00:20:57,323 that $500 security deposit... 491 00:20:57,390 --> 00:21:00,159 - Gone. - [Judge Judy] ...he was never gonna see. 492 00:21:00,226 --> 00:21:03,262 He might have hounded her for it for a couple of months 493 00:21:03,329 --> 00:21:05,865 and then he would have said, "Forget about it." 494 00:21:05,932 --> 00:21:08,534 And she knew that, she knew that. 495 00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:10,136 That's what makes her a hustler. 496 00:21:10,203 --> 00:21:12,338 That check for $5,000, 497 00:21:12,405 --> 00:21:15,274 that cashier's check instead of $5,500 498 00:21:15,341 --> 00:21:17,076 says to me hustler. 499 00:21:17,143 --> 00:21:18,144 There. 500 00:21:18,211 --> 00:21:21,280 [Judge Judy] And the icing on the cake is, he said, 501 00:21:21,347 --> 00:21:25,151 "Listen, I don't want you as a tenant in a place that I really wanna rent. 502 00:21:25,218 --> 00:21:26,486 And you're here. 503 00:21:26,552 --> 00:21:28,187 And all your stuff is here. 504 00:21:28,254 --> 00:21:31,024 So it's very easy for me to let you move in. 505 00:21:31,624 --> 00:21:33,559 But I know I'm a smart man. 506 00:21:33,626 --> 00:21:37,497 If I take this $5,000, I'm gonna have trouble with you 507 00:21:37,563 --> 00:21:40,299 ongoing complaints... 508 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,537 rent, more complaints. 509 00:21:45,805 --> 00:21:47,540 What do I need this for? 510 00:21:47,607 --> 00:21:49,275 Here's your thousand dollars. 511 00:21:49,342 --> 00:21:51,411 I take it. I cash it. 512 00:21:52,412 --> 00:21:53,680 Go find a motel, 513 00:21:53,746 --> 00:21:55,815 stay in it until you find an apartment." 514 00:21:55,882 --> 00:22:00,453 You're probably not going to find an apartment in Beverly Hills for $3,500. 515 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,289 That's a two-bedroom apartment, which is what he had. 516 00:22:03,356 --> 00:22:06,125 So, when you do the wrong thing, 517 00:22:06,192 --> 00:22:07,794 courts aren't gonna stand up for you. 518 00:22:07,860 --> 00:22:09,362 She did the wrong thing. 519 00:22:09,429 --> 00:22:11,164 - He did the right thing. - [Sarah] Uh-hmm. 520 00:22:11,230 --> 00:22:12,331 - [Judge Judy] I think... - Yeah. 521 00:22:12,398 --> 00:22:13,399 [Judge Judy] ...that he did the right thing. 522 00:22:13,466 --> 00:22:16,302 He bent over backwards to accommodate this lady 523 00:22:16,369 --> 00:22:17,770 because of a friendship from... 524 00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:19,906 with a mutual friend. And she was trying... 525 00:22:21,574 --> 00:22:23,109 to get a little bit extra. 526 00:22:23,176 --> 00:22:25,511 Well, it came back and it bit her in the behind. 527 00:22:25,578 --> 00:22:27,814 And I was more than happy to be accommodating. 528 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:28,881 [Sarah] Yeah. 529 00:22:29,882 --> 00:22:31,818 [announcer] Are you a victim of a scam? 530 00:22:31,884 --> 00:22:33,853 Go to JudyJustice.tv. 531 00:22:38,291 --> 00:22:41,294 [theme music playing]