1 00:00:00,133 --> 00:00:03,233 He was going to make you a new customized bike. 2 00:00:03,300 --> 00:00:06,367 - Yes. - There was a gas leak from the bike? 3 00:00:06,433 --> 00:00:08,667 - Yes, ma'am. - I said, "Oh, that's a easy fix. 4 00:00:08,734 --> 00:00:10,100 Don't worry about it." 5 00:00:10,166 --> 00:00:12,667 He agreed to come out and fix the bike. 6 00:00:12,734 --> 00:00:14,934 - They never came. - Oh. 7 00:00:15,934 --> 00:00:19,533 So when the bike is fixed, that's when you'll get your check. 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,133 [announcer] This is Judy Justice. 9 00:00:23,133 --> 00:00:26,133 [theme music playing] 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:45,467 [announcer] Kimberly Edwards is suing bike sellers Ray Griffin and Dana Hicks, 11 00:00:45,533 --> 00:00:48,400 for the cost of a custom motorized bike. 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,667 [Kevin] Court come to order. 13 00:00:52,100 --> 00:00:53,734 [Judge Judy] Have a seat, please. 14 00:00:54,734 --> 00:00:58,266 Hello Judge. Case number 1133 Edwards versus Griffin-Hicks. 15 00:00:58,333 --> 00:01:00,200 - Thank you. - You're welcome. 16 00:01:00,266 --> 00:01:03,667 [Judge Judy] Ms. Edwards, you purchased a second-hand 17 00:01:03,734 --> 00:01:06,667 customized motorbike from the defendants? 18 00:01:06,734 --> 00:01:08,467 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] You purchased it, 19 00:01:08,533 --> 00:01:11,333 understanding that it was used, that it had been used 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,767 either by one of the defendants or their children. 21 00:01:13,834 --> 00:01:14,834 No, ma'am. 22 00:01:14,900 --> 00:01:16,600 [Judge Judy] Well you bought a used one, 23 00:01:16,667 --> 00:01:18,000 what was your understanding? 24 00:01:18,066 --> 00:01:19,700 Who had it been used by? 25 00:01:19,767 --> 00:01:22,200 Well, it--what I was told was that the bike was made for her 26 00:01:22,265 --> 00:01:24,033 but that she didn't get a chance to ride it. 27 00:01:24,100 --> 00:01:27,667 So, she phrased it to me as though the bike had never been used, 28 00:01:27,734 --> 00:01:31,200 it was just a extra bike that her husband Ray had created. 29 00:01:31,265 --> 00:01:33,133 [Judge Judy] Okay. Let's get back to. 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,366 Where did you meet them? 31 00:01:34,433 --> 00:01:36,000 - IHOP. - [Judge Judy] And you must've 32 00:01:36,066 --> 00:01:38,866 - seen them riding these bikes? - [Kimberly] Yeah, they were at IHOP 33 00:01:38,934 --> 00:01:40,200 with the bikes. 34 00:01:40,265 --> 00:01:44,000 - [Judge Judy] How many? - I would say in total about five. 35 00:01:44,066 --> 00:01:46,033 And they were all similar but different? 36 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:47,366 - They were all custom? - [Kimberly] Yeah. 37 00:01:47,433 --> 00:01:48,866 - Yeah. - [Judge Judy] They didn't look 38 00:01:48,934 --> 00:01:50,500 - like the usual bicycle that you ride. - [Kimberly] No ma'am. 39 00:01:50,567 --> 00:01:52,166 - So they were different? - Yes, ma'am. 40 00:01:52,233 --> 00:01:54,834 And you like them. And who did you start the conversation with? 41 00:01:54,900 --> 00:01:57,000 - Mr. Griffin. - [Judge Judy] What did you say to him 42 00:01:57,066 --> 00:01:59,600 - and what did he say to you? - [Kimberly] I asked him, you know, 43 00:01:59,667 --> 00:02:01,200 "Did you create this?" He said yes. 44 00:02:01,266 --> 00:02:03,934 And then he went on to tell me that he made custom bikes. 45 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,133 And they are dual, meaning that you can pedal in, 46 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,000 that you can use the motor. So I thought that that was fascinating 47 00:02:10,066 --> 00:02:13,533 and I asked them about the patent, I went in to ask them about, you know, 48 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,467 what all it entails, the parts. 49 00:02:15,533 --> 00:02:18,533 And so I told him I wanted one for my baby's birthday that was coming up. 50 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,033 [Judge Judy] How old is your child? 51 00:02:20,100 --> 00:02:21,233 [Kimberly] She's 15. 52 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:23,600 [Judge Judy] So you said, "I'd like to buy one from you?" 53 00:02:23,667 --> 00:02:24,934 Did he tell you how much it was? 54 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,100 [Kimberly] He told me that it was 450 initially. 55 00:02:27,166 --> 00:02:30,233 And I went with their price, I'm like, "Okay, good." You know... 56 00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:32,667 - Okay. So he said it was $450. - [Kimberly] Yes, ma'am. 57 00:02:32,734 --> 00:02:34,367 [Judge Judy] And then what happened? 58 00:02:34,433 --> 00:02:37,133 Then, I asked him whether I could speak to his wife 59 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,000 about setting up to buy the bike. 60 00:02:39,066 --> 00:02:42,000 After that, that was the last conversation that I had with Mr. Griffin. 61 00:02:42,066 --> 00:02:43,533 I only spoke to the wife after that. 62 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,333 [Judge Judy] Okay. He was going to make you a new 63 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,600 customized bike for $450. 64 00:02:48,667 --> 00:02:51,133 He just said custom bike. He never said that it was used. 65 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,767 She never implied that it was used 66 00:02:52,834 --> 00:02:54,867 until we got into the text message conversation. 67 00:02:54,934 --> 00:02:56,966 [Judge Judy] Okay. Well then, let me see the first 68 00:02:57,033 --> 00:02:58,533 text message that you had. 69 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,867 [Kimberly] The first text message that I had, they didn't initially print it out, 70 00:03:01,934 --> 00:03:03,166 but this is the conversation. 71 00:03:05,066 --> 00:03:09,700 So this is her contacting me to see if I was still interested in the bike. 72 00:03:09,767 --> 00:03:11,333 Okay. Hold on one second. 73 00:03:15,333 --> 00:03:17,066 Okay. I don't understand this message. 74 00:03:17,133 --> 00:03:19,734 - What's next? - This is the warranty that we spoke of. 75 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,300 Oh, I don't wanna hear the warranty. 76 00:03:21,367 --> 00:03:22,966 [Kimberly] Okay, you want the text messages? 77 00:03:23,033 --> 00:03:25,266 - I'm back--I'm back in $450. - Okay. 78 00:03:25,333 --> 00:03:29,400 [Judge Judy] For new customized bike. 79 00:03:29,466 --> 00:03:30,466 [Kimberly] Yes, ma'am. 80 00:03:30,533 --> 00:03:31,533 It's in my phone. 81 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,466 [Judge Judy] So get it from your phone, unless we can agree on it. 82 00:03:34,533 --> 00:03:37,867 You said they'd build you a new one for 450 and you say in your complaint 83 00:03:37,934 --> 00:03:40,466 - that you paid them 550. - No, that was the initial price, 84 00:03:40,533 --> 00:03:43,567 was the 450 but I ended up paying 550 for the bike in total. 85 00:03:43,633 --> 00:03:44,633 [Judge Judy] Why? 86 00:03:44,700 --> 00:03:47,500 Because he told me that the extra--the labor for the bike 87 00:03:47,567 --> 00:03:50,867 was a hundred dollars and the base price of the bike was four-fifty. 88 00:03:50,934 --> 00:03:52,466 - And--okay. - [Kimberly] Here it is. 89 00:03:52,533 --> 00:03:53,800 Great. I'm gonna see it. 90 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,700 So you reached a price of $550? 91 00:03:57,767 --> 00:03:59,466 - [Kimberly] Yes, ma'am. - For this bike? 92 00:03:59,533 --> 00:04:00,600 Yes, ma'am. 93 00:04:07,567 --> 00:04:10,000 Okay. Well, this is back and forth bartering. 94 00:04:10,066 --> 00:04:12,433 You finally agreed to pay him $550. 95 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:13,934 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] For the bike? 96 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,000 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 97 00:04:15,066 --> 00:04:16,399 - Did he deliver the bike? - [Kimberly] Yes, ma'am. 98 00:04:16,466 --> 00:04:18,200 [Judge Judy] When did he deliver the bike? 99 00:04:18,266 --> 00:04:20,300 The day before her birthday on August 31st. 100 00:04:20,367 --> 00:04:22,567 - You have a picture of the bike? - [Kimberly] Yes, ma'am. 101 00:04:33,834 --> 00:04:36,600 [Judge Judy] Okay. And you accepted the bike in your home? 102 00:04:36,667 --> 00:04:39,667 I accepted it outside and then I, I pulled it into the garage. 103 00:04:39,734 --> 00:04:43,533 And then we discussed the handles and all of the gadgets on it. 104 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,066 - And then he... - [Judge Judy] Okay. 105 00:04:45,133 --> 00:04:48,734 - So, he explained how to drive it? - [Kimberly] No, he just explained to me 106 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,200 which one was the gear. And he just went through and told me 107 00:04:51,266 --> 00:04:55,767 what's gear--what these parts are, where I need to flip this or change this. 108 00:04:55,834 --> 00:04:57,433 Then he explained to you how to drive it. 109 00:04:57,500 --> 00:04:59,600 [Kimberly] No, he didn't explain to me how to drive it. 110 00:04:59,667 --> 00:05:02,233 [Judge Judy] Okay. Well, I'm telling you, he explained to you Ms. Edwards, 111 00:05:02,300 --> 00:05:03,934 how to drive it. 112 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,300 You may not wanna put it that way, but I'm telling you, 113 00:05:06,367 --> 00:05:08,066 it speaks--he explained to you how to drive it. 114 00:05:08,133 --> 00:05:09,800 - Yes, Your Honor. - [Judge Judy] Right. 115 00:05:09,867 --> 00:05:12,266 [Kimberly] So, after he explained to me, he got on it and he rode it 116 00:05:12,333 --> 00:05:14,533 - four houses down and came back. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 117 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,200 So he showed you how to turn it on, you watched him--I mean, 118 00:05:17,266 --> 00:05:20,934 he didn't ride around the block because he wanted a scenic view 119 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,300 of where you live. 120 00:05:22,367 --> 00:05:25,033 He rode around with the bike, so that you saw that it worked? 121 00:05:25,100 --> 00:05:26,967 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] And he showed you 122 00:05:27,033 --> 00:05:29,667 the different gears and you watched him how he started it? 123 00:05:29,734 --> 00:05:31,567 - Not in, uh, I didn't... - [Judge Judy] Well then, you should've 124 00:05:31,633 --> 00:05:33,500 - watched him how he started it. - Yes, ma'am. 125 00:05:33,567 --> 00:05:36,900 And he drove it around, so that you could see that it rode 126 00:05:36,967 --> 00:05:38,867 around the block, and then what happened? 127 00:05:38,933 --> 00:05:42,800 So, when he came back from riding it and we discussed with Dana 128 00:05:42,867 --> 00:05:45,933 on the open line, a three-way call, Dana was initially supposed 129 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,266 to show my daughter how to ride it, that was her offer. 130 00:05:48,332 --> 00:05:51,266 It wasn't something I asked for, so when he heard that 131 00:05:51,332 --> 00:05:54,867 he was like, "Well, I have to go to work now but I'll come back the next day 132 00:05:54,933 --> 00:05:56,933 - and I'll show her." - [Judge Judy] Okay. Great. 133 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,066 So he said, "I'll come back the next day and show your daughter how to ride it." 134 00:06:01,133 --> 00:06:02,767 And that would've been September 1st? 135 00:06:02,834 --> 00:06:04,533 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] How did it get 136 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:05,600 into the garage? 137 00:06:05,667 --> 00:06:07,133 I pulled it up... 138 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,500 [Judge Judy] And then you put the stick down, so it wouldn't fall over? 139 00:06:10,567 --> 00:06:13,266 Yeah, he initially told me about the stick because it was so loose, 140 00:06:13,333 --> 00:06:16,200 the bike couldn't stand straight up. And he told me that when he came back 141 00:06:16,266 --> 00:06:18,200 to show how to ride it, that he would tighten it, 142 00:06:18,266 --> 00:06:20,934 and so from that point I just leaned it up against the wall 143 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,400 'cause I knew it wouldn't stand on the leg that it was on 'cause it was loose. 144 00:06:25,467 --> 00:06:27,500 Okay. Do you remember that? 145 00:06:27,567 --> 00:06:29,467 - Not at all. - [Judge Judy] Not at all? 146 00:06:29,533 --> 00:06:32,300 I have to tell you, you have to be careful Mr. Griffin 147 00:06:32,367 --> 00:06:35,467 because there are certain things that are important and certain things 148 00:06:35,533 --> 00:06:36,867 - that aren't important. - Correct. 149 00:06:36,933 --> 00:06:39,633 [Judge Judy] Certain little details, because if somebody 150 00:06:39,700 --> 00:06:42,332 tells me something that is a minor detail, 151 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:47,734 but doesn't really have bearing on the case like the stick that holds 152 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,933 the bike was loose and you said you would fix it. 153 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,133 That's not something that's somebody would make up 154 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,867 because it really doesn't have anything to do with the case. 155 00:06:55,933 --> 00:07:00,600 So if you're gonna say no to everything before you actually think about it, 156 00:07:00,667 --> 00:07:02,667 I'm not gonna believe a lot of what you say. 157 00:07:02,734 --> 00:07:04,266 - Do you understand? - I understand. 158 00:07:04,333 --> 00:07:06,967 [Judge Judy] Great. So, understanding that 159 00:07:07,033 --> 00:07:11,467 there's a certain veracity in that little detail which really isn't important. 160 00:07:11,533 --> 00:07:14,166 You wanna think again whether you said to her, 161 00:07:14,233 --> 00:07:17,332 "I'll fix that when I come back and show your daughter how to ride the bike?" 162 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,233 I actually told her I was coming back, but throughout the week, 163 00:07:20,300 --> 00:07:21,967 - I have told her... - [Judge Judy] You have not just--shh. 164 00:07:22,033 --> 00:07:25,133 You told her you were coming back to show her daughter how to ride the bike. 165 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,800 - That Saturday. - Did you tell her you would tighten 166 00:07:27,867 --> 00:07:30,700 - the stick? That... - Nothing's wrong with the bike. 167 00:07:30,767 --> 00:07:32,767 I didn't say there was anything wrong with the bike. 168 00:07:32,834 --> 00:07:35,834 This little stick here, I don't know what you call it. 169 00:07:35,900 --> 00:07:37,533 - Kickstand. - [Judge Judy] Kickstand. 170 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:38,834 - [Dana] It works. - [Judge Judy] Uh-hmm. 171 00:07:38,900 --> 00:07:40,834 - We have a picture of... - It's a brand new bike. 172 00:07:40,900 --> 00:07:42,066 [Judge Judy] May I see that? 173 00:07:48,467 --> 00:07:51,200 [Dana] That's the bike, the actual bike in her garage. 174 00:07:51,266 --> 00:07:54,000 Using the kickstand that she said isn't working. 175 00:07:54,066 --> 00:07:56,133 You took this picture on September 1st? 176 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,967 - No, she did. - [Ray] That's a screenshot. 177 00:07:58,033 --> 00:07:59,033 [Judge Judy] That she took? 178 00:07:59,100 --> 00:08:00,533 [Dana] She took it and she sent it to me. 179 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,133 And what's she's saying to you in this screenshot 180 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,900 is that there's a problem with oil? 181 00:08:04,967 --> 00:08:07,133 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] So she's showing you 182 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,133 the bike that's not leaning against anything. 183 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,300 - [Dana] Correct. - It's leaning on the kickstand. 184 00:08:11,367 --> 00:08:13,166 - Now, I know what it's called, oh. - [Dana] Correct. 185 00:08:13,233 --> 00:08:15,266 - [Dana] Uh-hmm. - [Judge Judy] Oh, that's a horse 186 00:08:15,333 --> 00:08:17,266 - of a different color. - [Dana] Uh-hmm. 187 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,500 Early on this process, 188 00:08:22,567 --> 00:08:24,867 Kimberly shared that she was interested 189 00:08:24,934 --> 00:08:28,266 in having a relationship with me. And so early on... 190 00:08:28,332 --> 00:08:31,166 You're not paying attention. And I would pay attention instead of looking. 191 00:08:31,233 --> 00:08:33,265 - I apologize. - [Judge Judy] Instead of looking. 192 00:08:38,265 --> 00:08:41,265 [theme music playing] 193 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:49,133 [announcer] Kimberly Edwards is suing bike sellers Ray Griffin and Dana Hicks 194 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,200 for the cost of a custom motorized bike. 195 00:08:52,266 --> 00:08:54,000 Ms. Edwards, you wanna take a look at this? 196 00:08:54,066 --> 00:08:56,100 - [Kimberly] Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] Uh-hmm. 197 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,266 What you can't see, if I may show the judge, 198 00:09:05,333 --> 00:09:08,967 is where that bag is sitting, it's leaning up against the chair. 199 00:09:09,033 --> 00:09:12,333 It's on the chair leaned up against the chair because it won't stand up. 200 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,533 Here's another picture where I had to put the kickstand inside of the pen... 201 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,633 - Can I see it? - [Kimberly] ...to make it stand up. 202 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,033 [Judge Judy] So what you're saying is that the bicycle is actually leaning up 203 00:09:29,100 --> 00:09:31,467 against this heavy bag and it's-- 204 00:09:31,533 --> 00:09:33,500 doesn't have its weight on the kickstand? 205 00:09:33,567 --> 00:09:35,165 - Yes, it doesn't. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 206 00:09:35,233 --> 00:09:37,467 And when you sent it to her on September 1st, 207 00:09:37,533 --> 00:09:41,367 you sent it to the defendants, showing them that there was 208 00:09:41,433 --> 00:09:44,066 an oil or gas leak from the bike? 209 00:09:44,133 --> 00:09:45,533 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 210 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,867 And what you told her then was I made it in April, 211 00:09:49,934 --> 00:09:52,934 I don't know, my wife didn't like, nobody ever used it. 212 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,967 I actually talked to her in regards to the bike. 213 00:09:56,033 --> 00:09:58,967 Well he says, that it was never ridden. 214 00:09:59,033 --> 00:10:01,934 - It wasn't by me. I didn't like... - [Judge Judy] Like--you didn't like it? 215 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,300 I didn't like the motorbike. 216 00:10:03,367 --> 00:10:04,667 Who rode it? 217 00:10:04,734 --> 00:10:06,467 [Dana] When Ray build the bikes, 218 00:10:06,533 --> 00:10:09,767 he don't build the bikes and give it straight to the customer 219 00:10:09,834 --> 00:10:10,834 or whoever it is. 220 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:14,867 Because it's a motor and they rattle, you know? 221 00:10:14,934 --> 00:10:17,800 So, once he put the bolts and everything on it, 222 00:10:17,867 --> 00:10:22,200 he test ride it for a few miles or whatnot just to try to it out and make sure. 223 00:10:22,266 --> 00:10:24,734 - That's fine. - So, he was the only person 224 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,633 that tested the bike out when it was given... 225 00:10:26,700 --> 00:10:29,133 [Judge Judy] So nobody else rode the bike, except for you? 226 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,467 - Not even myself. - She sent you this picture the day-- 227 00:10:32,533 --> 00:10:35,934 or within 24 hours of getting possession of the bike. 228 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,333 Which before the picture, she called me. 229 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,133 She said, "Ray told me to lift up 'cause when you finish riding the bike, 230 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:48,066 there's a off switch which stops the gas from flowing down, right?" 231 00:10:48,133 --> 00:10:49,867 It's a easy little off and on. 232 00:10:49,934 --> 00:10:52,533 So she said, "I don't know what Ray told me. 233 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,367 And I was messing with it, and now it's leaking." 234 00:10:55,433 --> 00:10:57,800 I said, "Oh, that's a easy fix, don't worry about it." 235 00:10:57,867 --> 00:10:59,934 - That's not true - [Dana] And so I said, 236 00:11:00,066 --> 00:11:02,600 "Let me call Ray on three-way, so that he could just tell you 237 00:11:02,667 --> 00:11:06,266 how to fix it." So we went about-- and I asked her to send me the picture 238 00:11:06,333 --> 00:11:08,934 so I can see exactly where the bike was leaking. 239 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,867 So that's basically what happened. She sent the picture, 240 00:11:11,934 --> 00:11:15,667 then we tried video calling her, her video kept cutting off, 241 00:11:15,734 --> 00:11:18,233 so that's when I told her, I said, "It's a easy fix, 242 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:20,333 we'll be out between Friday and Sunday." 243 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,533 - [Judge Judy] And then? - After that conversation, 244 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:23,800 me and her talked. 245 00:11:23,867 --> 00:11:26,800 - And so early on this... - You're not paying attention 246 00:11:26,867 --> 00:11:28,667 and I would pay attention instead of looking. 247 00:11:28,734 --> 00:11:30,667 - Instead of looking. - I apologize, I apologize. 248 00:11:30,734 --> 00:11:32,867 [Dana] Early on this process, 249 00:11:32,934 --> 00:11:35,266 Kimberly, uh, shared that she was interested 250 00:11:35,333 --> 00:11:36,867 in having a relationship with me, 251 00:11:36,934 --> 00:11:39,066 so, like, through all this process, she... 252 00:11:39,133 --> 00:11:41,266 [Judge Judy] I don't--listen to me, I don't care... 253 00:11:41,333 --> 00:11:43,934 - [Dana] I understand but... - Just listen to me. Then stop talking. 254 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,700 - Uh-hmm. - [Judge Judy] I don't care about that. 255 00:11:45,767 --> 00:11:48,066 - Right. - [Judge Judy] Do you agree 256 00:11:48,133 --> 00:11:53,033 that you just told me that this leaking gas or oil is an easy fix? 257 00:11:53,100 --> 00:11:54,834 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] Is that what you said? 258 00:11:54,900 --> 00:11:56,800 - Yes. - And is there any reason 259 00:11:56,867 --> 00:12:00,533 that you do not believe her when she says, 260 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,133 that since you dropped the bike off on September 1st, 261 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,934 or August 31st, I don't care what date it was. 262 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,033 - [Dana] Right. - That nobody has ridden it? 263 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:10,500 I believe she, uh, rode it or tried to ride it. 264 00:12:10,567 --> 00:12:12,400 [Judge Judy] Either she did or her daughter. 265 00:12:12,467 --> 00:12:13,800 - [Ray] Correct. - Because when Ray left... 266 00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:15,200 - Hold up. - ...he cut the gas off. 267 00:12:15,266 --> 00:12:17,967 [Judge Judy] Just a second. Did either you or your daughter 268 00:12:18,033 --> 00:12:19,166 ride the bike? 269 00:12:19,233 --> 00:12:21,667 - [Kimberly] No ma'am. - [Judge Judy] No. Very, very easy. 270 00:12:21,734 --> 00:12:24,600 Can I see this warranty that you're talking about? 271 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,734 Well, this is a warranty. 272 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,000 This says, "What I've experienced since we've been doing this, 273 00:12:38,066 --> 00:12:41,667 as long as she puts the gas in it correctly, it will run good. 274 00:12:41,734 --> 00:12:44,333 In the future, if any parts need to be fixed, 275 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,867 just let me know and I'll work on it." 276 00:12:46,934 --> 00:12:48,734 Well, something needs to be fixed. 277 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:49,934 - And I did and I... - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 278 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,165 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 279 00:12:51,233 --> 00:12:52,934 "I'll work something out with you." Not work on it. 280 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,400 [Judge Judy] I'll work-- well, let me see the rest of it. 281 00:12:54,467 --> 00:12:56,800 - That's her text. - It stops in "I'll work." 282 00:12:56,867 --> 00:12:57,867 [Kimberly] Okay. 283 00:13:03,500 --> 00:13:06,667 [Judge Judy] "I'll work something out for you, but that should be 284 00:13:06,734 --> 00:13:08,266 no time soon." 285 00:13:08,333 --> 00:13:12,066 Okay. So what he's saying to you is this isn't a guarantee 286 00:13:12,133 --> 00:13:13,333 that you get your money back. 287 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,400 This says, "In the future if any parts need to be fixed, 288 00:13:16,467 --> 00:13:18,367 just let me know and I'll work something out for you." 289 00:13:18,433 --> 00:13:20,567 - That's not a warranty. - [Kimberly] The--I was never saying 290 00:13:20,633 --> 00:13:23,533 it was a warranty for fixing it, whatever would be wrong 291 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,934 but I didn't expect anything to be wrong the day of. 292 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,133 - So this is him... - [Judge Judy] Well, I don't know 293 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,300 what you expected, madam. 294 00:13:28,367 --> 00:13:31,433 I expected just to get a bike that was working properly. 295 00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:33,133 Well, it was working properly 'cause according to you, 296 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,533 he rode it up and down the block. 297 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,066 He has to go out and fix it. 298 00:13:36,133 --> 00:13:38,333 And you have to tell him when you want him to come out and fix it. 299 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,667 - So... - [Judge Judy] That was his warranty, 300 00:13:39,734 --> 00:13:41,667 - you're not getting your money back. - No, I wanted to show you 301 00:13:41,734 --> 00:13:43,500 - what they said to me. - [Judge Judy] Just a minute, 302 00:13:43,567 --> 00:13:45,600 if it's something different from what this is... 303 00:13:45,667 --> 00:13:46,667 - [Kimberly] Uh-hmm. - Okay. 304 00:13:46,734 --> 00:13:48,400 - You wanna show me something else? - [Kimberly] Also... 305 00:13:48,467 --> 00:13:50,367 Otherwise show--just show me. 306 00:13:50,433 --> 00:13:52,567 She said that I told her that my daughter's birthday 307 00:13:52,633 --> 00:13:55,467 was September the 2nd, this is me telling her in text messages 308 00:13:55,533 --> 00:13:57,266 my baby's birthday was September the 1st. 309 00:13:57,333 --> 00:13:58,333 [Judge Judy] Oh, I don't care. It's not important. 310 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,667 - But it's just the aspect that she lies. - [Judge Judy] I don't--I don't care. 311 00:14:00,734 --> 00:14:03,867 September 1st or September 2nd, it's not important to me or this case. 312 00:14:03,934 --> 00:14:05,066 Yes, ma'am. I'm sorry. 313 00:14:08,700 --> 00:14:10,800 [Judge Judy] He said they would come out and fix it, 314 00:14:10,867 --> 00:14:13,100 we already told you Friday or Saturday. 315 00:14:13,166 --> 00:14:15,467 That's the thing. On the phone call that me and Ms. Divine had... 316 00:14:15,533 --> 00:14:17,934 [Judge Judy] What I'm asking you-- okay, he has to come out 317 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,100 and fix it within one week. What date do you want him 318 00:14:20,166 --> 00:14:22,600 - to come out and fix the bike? - I don't want the bike, Your Honor. 319 00:14:22,667 --> 00:14:24,567 - Because it's a fire hazard. - [Judge Judy] Then you can-- 320 00:14:24,633 --> 00:14:26,734 then you can-- then you can sell it, it's your bike. 321 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,066 What I'm telling you is he agreed to come out and fix the bike. 322 00:14:30,133 --> 00:14:32,467 This is what they told me. Can I present this--they told me... 323 00:14:32,533 --> 00:14:34,200 [Judge Judy] You can show me something else. 324 00:14:34,266 --> 00:14:36,967 Right now, I'm reading what the two things that you gave me. 325 00:14:37,033 --> 00:14:39,233 Judge. May I see what she gave you? 326 00:14:39,300 --> 00:14:40,500 - No. - [Dana] Okay. 327 00:14:40,567 --> 00:14:42,500 So far, you're not losing. You have to be quiet. 328 00:14:42,567 --> 00:14:44,333 I know, I'm sorry, I'm just curious. 329 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,800 Because that don't... 330 00:14:45,867 --> 00:14:49,233 Oh, you said 450 but he said the lights were extra, um, 331 00:14:49,300 --> 00:14:51,600 what does this have to do with what we're talking about? 332 00:14:51,667 --> 00:14:54,734 No, that is him after the fact of me asking them and waiting for them 333 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,200 to come on Friday, which is what she told me over the phone. 334 00:14:57,266 --> 00:14:58,800 - [Judge Judy] Just a sec--you can't... - [Kimberly] They never came 335 00:14:58,867 --> 00:15:00,266 - and this is her blowing me off. - [Judge Judy] Just a second, 336 00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:04,133 I will cash app you--just a--just-- I will cash app you tomorrow 337 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,266 the remaining in cash. Okay, that works. 338 00:15:06,333 --> 00:15:07,900 That was prior to him coming to my home. 339 00:15:07,967 --> 00:15:09,567 Do you understand? I'm not interested in all of this. 340 00:15:09,633 --> 00:15:11,600 - [Kimberly] No, I know. - So don't give it to me. 341 00:15:11,667 --> 00:15:14,533 Just because you're giving me a lot of paper, doesn't confuse me. 342 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,700 It wasn't a bike that you bought at Schwinn. 343 00:15:20,767 --> 00:15:23,400 You take pieces from a bike, he didn't create the metal. 344 00:15:23,467 --> 00:15:24,667 He didn't create the wheels. 345 00:15:24,734 --> 00:15:26,567 He put together different parts of a bike... 346 00:15:26,633 --> 00:15:29,200 He just told me that he was the creator of the bike and he was not 347 00:15:29,266 --> 00:15:30,600 - the creator of the bike. - [Judge Judy] Oh, please. 348 00:15:30,667 --> 00:15:32,200 You don't look like a stupid woman. 349 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,400 [theme music playing] 350 00:15:43,133 --> 00:15:46,333 [announcer] Kimberly Edwards has accused bike sellers 351 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,600 Ray Griffin and Dana Hicks of refusing to refund the cost 352 00:15:50,667 --> 00:15:52,900 of a custom motorized bike. 353 00:15:52,967 --> 00:15:57,567 Ray says Kimberly rejected his offer to fix the bike for free. 354 00:15:57,633 --> 00:16:01,200 You were supposed to give me a piece of paper that suggested 355 00:16:01,266 --> 00:16:04,200 that there was some sort of a refund warranty 356 00:16:04,266 --> 00:16:06,467 other than he would come out and fix it. 357 00:16:06,533 --> 00:16:08,967 No, that's initially Judge Sheindlin what I wanted him to do 358 00:16:09,033 --> 00:16:10,934 was come and fix the bike. But when they refuse 359 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,934 and they didn't show up on Friday, I wanted my money back. 360 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,200 [Judge Judy] Just a second. On what date are you going 361 00:16:15,266 --> 00:16:16,300 to go out and fix the bike? 362 00:16:16,367 --> 00:16:18,600 - Uh, it would be on like a week... - [Judge Judy] Not a like. 363 00:16:18,667 --> 00:16:21,734 What date are you going to fix the bike? 364 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,066 The following--what is it? 365 00:16:23,133 --> 00:16:24,433 On the 22nd. 366 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:26,834 - On the 22nd of? - It would have to be October 23rd. 367 00:16:26,900 --> 00:16:28,000 Okay. I'm sorry, 23rd. 368 00:16:28,066 --> 00:16:29,867 - Now they're making it up. - 23rd afternoon. 369 00:16:29,934 --> 00:16:32,834 Don't talk about making this up, just be quiet. 370 00:16:32,900 --> 00:16:34,000 - Yes, ma'am. - [Dana] That's a Friday. 371 00:16:34,066 --> 00:16:36,767 [Judge Judy] Listen to me. From what jurisdiction do you come? 372 00:16:36,834 --> 00:16:38,600 - Harris County. - [Judge Judy] Where is that? 373 00:16:38,667 --> 00:16:40,066 - Houston, Texas. - Houston, Texas. 374 00:16:40,133 --> 00:16:42,400 [Judge Judy] And as part of your appearance here, 375 00:16:42,467 --> 00:16:43,934 you get an appearance fee. 376 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,200 - Correct. - Have you received that yet? 377 00:16:46,266 --> 00:16:48,066 - [Dana] No, ma'am. - You are not going to 378 00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:49,500 until the bike is fixed. 379 00:16:49,567 --> 00:16:51,266 - Do you understand? - [Dana] No problem. 380 00:16:51,333 --> 00:16:53,165 - Understood. - [Judge Judy] So when the bike 381 00:16:53,233 --> 00:16:55,667 is fixed, that's when you'll get your check. 382 00:16:55,734 --> 00:16:57,867 - Do we understand each other? - [Dana] Understood. 383 00:16:57,934 --> 00:17:00,934 Give me the date that you will be there to fix the bike. 384 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,700 - October 23rd. - [Judge Judy] What time? 385 00:17:02,767 --> 00:17:04,266 Do you not want him to come and fix the bike? 386 00:17:04,333 --> 00:17:05,700 Then it's gonna make my life easier. 387 00:17:05,767 --> 00:17:08,066 - That's been a issue... - I wasn't gonna disagree, 388 00:17:08,133 --> 00:17:10,133 I was just gonna say my daughter is in athletics, 389 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,099 so the timeframe would have to be before she gets out so that I won't run 390 00:17:14,165 --> 00:17:16,200 into it going to get her and them trying to buy-- 391 00:17:16,266 --> 00:17:17,900 [Judge Judy] So just to--just a second. 392 00:17:17,967 --> 00:17:19,767 Tell me what time is no good for you. 393 00:17:19,834 --> 00:17:22,066 - [Dana] After 3:00. - [Judge Judy] Okay. You have to be 394 00:17:22,133 --> 00:17:24,599 there before 3:00, so I would say pick a day 395 00:17:24,666 --> 00:17:26,467 when you can be there at noon. 396 00:17:26,532 --> 00:17:29,266 [Dana] So let's try Sunday, October 24th. 397 00:17:29,333 --> 00:17:30,333 It can't be a Sunday. 398 00:17:31,734 --> 00:17:34,033 - We work. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 399 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:36,233 What days of the week do you work? 400 00:17:36,300 --> 00:17:38,200 - He... - I work Monday through Sunday. 401 00:17:38,266 --> 00:17:39,600 - [Judge Judy] Doing what? - This is the problem that I ran into. 402 00:17:39,667 --> 00:17:41,133 - Off on--off on Saturdays. But... - [Judge Judy] Shh, 403 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,500 - you're off on Saturday? - [Ray] Right. As of right now, 404 00:17:43,567 --> 00:17:46,467 - I work for a repossessing agency. - [Judge Judy] What I'm telling you 405 00:17:46,533 --> 00:17:50,400 - is pick a day, before 12:00 but you... - [Dana] We did. But you understand 406 00:17:50,467 --> 00:17:52,467 we picked two days. She keeps changing it. 407 00:17:52,533 --> 00:17:54,934 [Judge Judy] No, no, no. She said she has to pick her daughter up 408 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,767 from school after 3:00. 409 00:17:56,834 --> 00:17:59,000 - So you have to come before-- - [Dana] That's a Saturday. 410 00:17:59,066 --> 00:18:00,667 - What's a Saturday? - [Dana] The day we gave you... 411 00:18:00,734 --> 00:18:02,000 - [Ray] The 23rd. - [Dana] ...was a Saturday. 412 00:18:02,066 --> 00:18:03,200 - [Judge Judy] Oh, Saturday. - Yes. 413 00:18:03,266 --> 00:18:05,166 [Judge Judy] Great. I'm gonna give you a date. 414 00:18:05,233 --> 00:18:07,800 I'm just--I wanna let you know, my daughter has away games, 415 00:18:07,867 --> 00:18:11,934 that's why I'm saying that they can't fix it after 3:00 or in-between their time 416 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,834 on a Saturday because she's away, so I'm away with her, 417 00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:17,600 it has to be Monday through Friday before 12:00, before 3:00. 418 00:18:17,667 --> 00:18:20,467 [Judge Judy] Well, that's unreasonable if you want the bike fixed. 419 00:18:20,533 --> 00:18:23,100 Get somebody else there at the house to stay at your house 420 00:18:23,166 --> 00:18:25,367 - and watch the bike. - That was the whole problem initially, 421 00:18:25,433 --> 00:18:26,467 - Judge, because... - [Judge Judy] Well... 422 00:18:26,533 --> 00:18:29,133 ...he didn't wanna come--he didn't wanna come those--that particular time, 423 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,600 - he kept putting it off. - We never put it off. 424 00:18:31,667 --> 00:18:32,667 You put it off. 425 00:18:32,734 --> 00:18:34,633 [Judge Judy] Let me explain something to you. 426 00:18:34,700 --> 00:18:36,233 - Yes, yes, Judge. - [Judge Judy] That's the date, 427 00:18:36,300 --> 00:18:40,533 the 23rd at 12:00. If you want the 23rd, it could be at 3:00. 428 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,600 - What's your pleasure? - That's fine. 429 00:18:42,667 --> 00:18:45,133 - The 23rd. The 23rd. - [Judge Judy] What--at what time? 430 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,133 - Before 3:00, so 12:00. - [Judge Judy] 12:00 noon 431 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,533 - on October 23rd. - Yes. 432 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,300 You're gonna be there and fix the bike. 433 00:18:51,367 --> 00:18:53,166 - I will be there. - [Judge Judy] Very good. 434 00:18:53,233 --> 00:18:56,600 And if the bike still doesn't work because he and I suggest 435 00:18:56,667 --> 00:18:58,934 you have your daughter there to drive it around, 436 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,333 free to come back, put your hand down, 437 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,166 - do you understand? - [Kimberly] Uh-hmm. 438 00:19:03,233 --> 00:19:05,066 You bought a bike that was put together. 439 00:19:05,133 --> 00:19:08,467 It wasn't a bike that you bought at Schwinn. 440 00:19:08,533 --> 00:19:11,633 He misled me into thinking that he was the creator of the bike. 441 00:19:11,700 --> 00:19:13,867 - And he was not the creator of the bike. - [Judge Judy] Oh, please, 442 00:19:13,934 --> 00:19:16,500 you don't look like a stupid woman. You take pieces from a bike 443 00:19:16,567 --> 00:19:19,500 they didn't--he didn't create the metal, he didn't create the wheels, 444 00:19:19,567 --> 00:19:21,266 he put together different parts of a bike... 445 00:19:21,333 --> 00:19:22,867 He just told me that it was a custom bike. 446 00:19:22,934 --> 00:19:25,633 [Judge Judy] That's my decision. If you don't like it, I'm sorry. 447 00:19:25,700 --> 00:19:29,867 You don't have a warranty from them for this bike other than he said 448 00:19:29,934 --> 00:19:33,400 he would come out and fix it, which is what I've arranged for him 449 00:19:33,467 --> 00:19:36,000 to do on the 23rd of October. 450 00:19:36,066 --> 00:19:38,066 They say it's an easy fix. 451 00:19:38,133 --> 00:19:39,800 Somebody played around with it. 452 00:19:39,867 --> 00:19:41,934 Maybe they did and maybe they didn't. 453 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,266 He said it's an easy fix. 454 00:19:43,333 --> 00:19:44,900 So he's coming out to fix it. 455 00:19:44,967 --> 00:19:46,800 We're finished. Thank you. 456 00:19:46,867 --> 00:19:48,967 - [both] Thank you. - [Kevin] Court is adjourned. 457 00:19:50,667 --> 00:19:52,600 I'm gonna give him a chance to fix the bike. 458 00:19:52,667 --> 00:19:54,867 Um, and we'll go from there. 459 00:19:54,934 --> 00:19:56,300 But I respect her decision. 460 00:19:56,367 --> 00:19:58,133 I definitely think something happened, 461 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,667 um, because when we delivered the bike, Ray cut the gas off. 462 00:20:02,734 --> 00:20:06,834 So for it to leak after the fact, is something that she had to do. 463 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:10,467 It was so disappointing the aspect that I did it the day before I prepared, 464 00:20:10,533 --> 00:20:14,400 I paid, and then to get a damaged bike, so for everybody out there-- 465 00:20:14,467 --> 00:20:18,767 don't buy, uh, so-called created custom bikes. 466 00:20:18,834 --> 00:20:21,467 But regardless to-- whether she tampered with it or not, 467 00:20:21,533 --> 00:20:24,000 I still agreed to coming out and helping her. 468 00:20:24,066 --> 00:20:25,200 That's all that matters. 469 00:20:25,266 --> 00:20:28,066 I just think that's his character of trying to escape the aspect 470 00:20:28,133 --> 00:20:29,133 that he had to fix it. 471 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,700 I sell these things. So it's, it's behind my name. 472 00:20:31,767 --> 00:20:33,934 And now the fact that he has to fix it, you know, 473 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,867 this is where I wanted it to be, so I respect it. 474 00:20:36,934 --> 00:20:39,333 You know, it's just only fair, like, okay, that's fine. 475 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,333 You know, even though you created the problem, we can help you fix it, 476 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,533 it's not that serious. 477 00:20:45,533 --> 00:20:48,266 [Sarah] You know, my mom has a electric bike like that, 478 00:20:48,333 --> 00:20:52,533 that's a dual-purpose, you can ride it like a regular bike or motorized. 479 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,333 So I know she has that. But this bike seemed a bit more 480 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,433 makeshift with all these parts. I'm just curious how it all fits together. 481 00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:02,467 I saw the photo and I still don't really understand how that all works. 482 00:21:02,533 --> 00:21:04,166 That's why they say that they custom make it, 483 00:21:04,233 --> 00:21:06,734 - they probably take pieces from... - Different kinds of bike. 484 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,633 [Judge Judy] ...pieces of discarded bikes. 485 00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:10,133 And sort of cobble them together. 486 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,934 Good for maybe an art piece, for me. 487 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000 I don't know if I would ride something like that. 488 00:21:14,066 --> 00:21:16,033 Well, clearly, they rode it, they rode it to IHOP. 489 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:17,467 - Yeah. - [Judge Judy] You know, that's where 490 00:21:17,533 --> 00:21:20,266 she saw them. In any event, the plaintiff clearly knew 491 00:21:20,333 --> 00:21:22,800 - that this was cobbled together. - Uh-hmm. 492 00:21:22,867 --> 00:21:26,066 [Judge Judy] It may have been their original design but they didn't create 493 00:21:26,133 --> 00:21:28,100 - wheels, and spokes, and motors... - [Sarah] Yeah. 494 00:21:28,166 --> 00:21:29,934 ...and things. They put them together out of... 495 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,633 - They weren't in manufacturing. - [Judge Judy] They weren't-- 496 00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:34,100 they weren't manufacturers. And he came, 497 00:21:34,166 --> 00:21:35,667 - she said he rode the bike. - Uh-hmm. 498 00:21:35,734 --> 00:21:37,734 [Judge Judy] He rode to show her it was operable, 499 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,600 he rode up and down the block several times. 500 00:21:39,667 --> 00:21:41,533 So the bike was clearly operable. 501 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,934 I really don't know what happened after he left. 502 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,533 I can hardly imagine that the daughter didn't see that bike 503 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,900 and didn't say, "Gee, I'd love to take it for a spin myself." 504 00:21:50,967 --> 00:21:53,200 She put it in the garage, that sort of outside the realm 505 00:21:53,266 --> 00:21:55,667 - of possibility for a 15-year-old. - [Sarah] Uh-hmm. 506 00:21:55,734 --> 00:21:58,333 That she didn't try it. Anyway, he's gotta fix it. 507 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,800 And he said he would. 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