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You purchased a female puppy
from her?

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I just want my dog,
but I wanted to be able to breed her.

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We went into it as a pet agreement
which is this contract.

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Which disallows you from breeding
the dog.

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[PJ] I don't want the dog.
I want the dog fixed.

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Well, I can't do that. I mean, I
don't have the equipment here.

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[announcer] This is Judy Justice.

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[theme music playing]

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[announcer] Taylor Lewis is suing
dog breeder PJ Carter

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for breach of contracts and fraud.

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[Kevin] Court come to order. All rise.

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Thank you. Have a seat, please.

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[Kevin] Hello, Judge.
Case 1069, Lewis versus Carter.

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- Thank you.
- You're welcome.

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[Judge Judy] Ms. Lewis, what got
you interested in breeding dogs?

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[Taylor] I love the breed
and I wanted to help bring something

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to the breed to help
bring healthy dogs into the world.

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- What breed?
- Bull Terriers.

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[Judge Judy] Had you ever
had a Bull Terrier before?

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Yes. I actually found one for my
husband. I...

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Where did you get the one
that you got for your husband?

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[Taylor] I just found her on Facebook.

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He wasn't AKC-registered or anything.

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[Judge Judy] Well, if not AKC-registered,
how did you know that the

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one that you got for your husband
was a purebred Bull Terrier?

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Well, we were told that he was purebred.

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We saw his mom and his dad.

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- Well, you saw two dogs?
- [Taylor] Yes.

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But at that point,
I wasn't even interested in breeding.

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[Judge Judy] Okay. And that's a male
dog?

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- [Taylor] Yes.
- [Judge Judy] Who I gather

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from these papers has never been neutered?

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No, he has not.

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So you have unregistered,
unneutered dog, and according to you,

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I think what you said is you wanted
to do something for the breed?

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Would you read that back to me?

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She said, "I love to breed and I wanted
to help

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bring something to the breed to help
bring healthy dogs into the world."

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[Judge Judy] Okay.
So you went looking for a female?

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- [Taylor] Yes. But just to be...
- [Judge Judy] Just, just to be what?

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A companion.

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- [Judge Judy] Okay. Not to breed?
- [Taylor] No. I actually

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- [Taylor] have evidence...
- Just a sec-

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- Not to breed?
- No.

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[Judge Judy] And how did you find
the defendant?

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- [Taylor] On Facebook.
- [Judge Judy] She is, according

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to your papers, a recognized breeder
of Bull Terriers?

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- Yes.
- [Judge Judy] How much did you pay

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- for your husband's dog?
- F-four hundred dollars.

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[Judge Judy] Now you found the defendant

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who was an experienced breeder
of Bull Terriers on Facebook

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and you ultimately purchased a female...

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- Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] ...puppy from her

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whose name is I think Adora?

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- [Taylor] Yes.
- On what date

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did you purchase the dog from her?

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On, January 19th of 2020.

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[Judge Judy] Did you pay her the $2,000?

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- Yes.
- [Judge Judy] Did she pay you

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- the $2,000 ultimately?
- Yes.

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[Judge Judy] And you bought this dog
as a companion but this companion dog

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did in fact have a litter?

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- [Taylor] Yes. So...
- [Judge Judy] Don't.

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- Sorry.
- [Judge Judy] I'm getting there.

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- Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] This companion dog

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had a litter. That wasn't an accident?

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- Um-um.
- [Judge Judy] Because you didn't

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breed this companion dog
with your husband's dog?

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- No, ma'am.
- [Judge Judy] Because your

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- husband's dog is un-papered?
- [Taylor] Yes. And I would

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- [Taylor] never do that.
- Sometimes you don't have a choice.

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- So you purposefully bred the dog...
- Uh-hmm.

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- [Judge Judy] ...to have a litter?
- Uh-hmm.

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- On what date?
- [Taylor] January 3rd. We did

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artificial insemination, and again
on January 6th of 2020--or 2021.

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[Judge Judy] And who owned the male
dog?

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Ms. Carter's friend had the male dog.

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- [Judge Judy] Is that correct?
- Yeah.

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[Judge Judy] And that littler produced

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- how many puppies?
- [Taylor] Six.

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Now, when you purchased this puppy,
you had a co-ownership agreement

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with the defendant?

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[Taylor] We did not. She gave me a
year, um, because

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she said that we were very
knowledgeable with dogs,

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- so on and so forth.
- [Judge Judy] She gave you a year

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- for what?
- [Taylor] To figure out if we wanted

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to breed her or not.
At that time, we could enter

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- a co-own agreement.
- Okay. So when did you in fact

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enter into the co-own agreement
because if the dog was bred in

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January with a friend of hers, there
evidently was a meeting of the minds

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that you were going to use this dog...

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- [Taylor] Yes, ma'am.

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...at least one time
for breeding purposes.

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- Yes.
- [Judge Judy] So then entered into

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a co-ownership agreement,
which I'd like to look at.

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- [Taylor] Yes. Um, the...
- Because it has terms on it. Kevin?

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The date that she was paid off was
on...

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Just a second.

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The puppy that was sold, you
purchased on what date?

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That's what I was trying to say.
We got her on July 19th. And when

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she was paid off and we entered into
the co-own agreement

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was on July 9th of 2021.

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We went into it as a pet agreement
and then when it was--

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when she paid the dog off, I said,
"Okay. Now, I'm gonna register her.

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Do you wanna go into the co-own
or do you guys wanna keep her as a

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pet?" So then we both agreed to do a
co-own which is this contract

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- and then...
- [Judge Judy] And then you...

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Then I registered her.

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[Judge Judy] And when you registered
her, did you pay the plaintiff any

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- money?
- No. I paid for the registration.

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[Judge Judy] Okay.
So let me understand this.

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- She paid you $2,000 for the dog?
- Right.

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[Judge Judy] And it was sold as a
pet?

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- Right.
- [Judge Judy] Just wanna get it

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clear. If she decided within the one
year she wanted to breed her,

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then you would co-own the dog.

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You would not get
any puppies from the litter?

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- [PJ] No, I would.
- You would?

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So you were supposed to get
how many puppies from a litter?

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- One.
- [Judge Judy] Did you get a puppy

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- from the first litter?
- [PJ] Yes.

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[Judge Judy] Did you sell that puppy?

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[PJ] Yes.

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- [Judge Judy] For how much.
- Uh, she has not been paid

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or anything yet. It was to my best
friend, but she was for 2,500.

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Okay. Did you sell the remaining five
puppies?

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[Taylor] Yes, ma'am.
Or we kept one, we sold four, sorry.

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[Judge Judy] Did you keep a male
or a female?

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- A male.
- [Judge Judy] How much did you sell

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the other four puppies for?

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For 2,500 to $3,000.

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[Judge Judy] And how much
approximately would the vet bills

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and the breeding that you had?

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- Like, $2,300?
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

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And what was the stud fee
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- $1,000.
- You spent a thousand dollars

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- for the stud fee?
- [Taylor] Uh-hmm.

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[Judge Judy] And how much did you
spend for shots for the puppies,

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et cetera? I'm trying to figure out.
You sold the puppies

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for an average of $2,750 apiece?

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- Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] Times four.

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There was three that was sold
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that was sold for 3,000.

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Did you in fact allow a female puppy
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rights to the person that you sold
the female puppy to?

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- I did not.
- [Judge Judy] That's either a yes

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- or a no.
- No--yes.

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That's either a yes or a no.

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You just told me both things.

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[theme music playing]

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[announcer] Taylor Lewis says dog
breeder PJ Carter breached their

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contact. PJ is countersuing,
claiming Taylor breached

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the breeding contract and wants her
to return a Bull Terrier.

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Okay. So we have $10,500.

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- [Taylor] Yes.
- [Judge Judy] And minus

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a thousand dollars
that you paid for the stud fee.

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- [Taylor] Yes.
- [Judge Judy] Is $9,500.

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Now you're gonna tell me
what your vet bills were.

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[Taylor] Okay. I think it was about...

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[Judge Judy] Don't give me anything
other than bills.

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- [Taylor] Okay.
- I don't wanna see anything

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other than bills.

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Okay.

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Just make sure
I'm sending you the right thing.

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Sarah, do me a favor, add,
add those up.

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Make sure that they're all for Adora
and her puppies, okay?

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- Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] Okay. So, so far,

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you've covered the cost of the dog
and made several thousand dollars.

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Sarah is gonna tell me exactly
how much.

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- [Taylor] Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] This is your complaint.

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Your complaint is that the
defendant

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must have forged your name
to AKC papers?

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- [Taylor] Yes.
- And taken you off

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- as the co-owner of the dog?
- [Taylor] Uh-hmm.

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[Judge Judy] Making herself sole
owner of the dog.

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- Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] Which disallows you

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from registering the dog
or further breeding the dog?

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- And showing...
- And/or showing the dog?

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- [Taylor] Yes.
- You've never shown her before?

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- No. The only reason...
- [Judge Judy] Just...

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I didn't was because of COVID.

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[Judge Judy]
You've never shown her before?

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- No.
- You have a counterclaim?

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- [PJ] Uh-hmm.
- And your counterclaim

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- is for breach of this contract?
- Uh-hmm.

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[Judge Judy] This breeding contract
and for the value of the dog.

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Which actually you've already
been paid for, $2,000,

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and/or the dog back
which you're not gonna get because...

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- [Taylor] Your Honor...
- [Judge Judy] ...is part

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of their household.

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Your Honor,
that was the other thing too.

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I wanted to request
that I get ownership of Adora.

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[Judge Judy] My only question is,
did you in fact--to you,

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did you in fact sign her name
to a document that allowed you

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to advise the AKC,

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put your name as sole owner of the
dog?

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- No.
- [Judge Judy] Well,

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are you now the sole owner
of the dog?

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[PJ] Only with the AKC. That was a
confusion

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that she was thinking I would steal
the dog from her and I said,

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"All I'm doing is taking ownership
of the breeding rights of the AKC.

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- That's it."
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

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Now, you took ownership of that
while you had co-ownership with her,

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and you did that by executing
a document just in your own name?

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Right. And she could
have done the same thing to me.

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[Judge Judy] But she didn't,
because that's a breach of contract.

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But it--the contract already
had been broken,

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that's why I put her into my name.

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[Judge Judy] Just a second.

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You have to tell me
what you think gives you the right

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to change the contract that you had?

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- There was no change of it.
- [Judge Judy] There was

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because you are now the sole breeding
right owner of the dog. And prior

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- to that, both of you were.
- [PJ] Right. Okay.

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[Judge Judy] So there is a difference.

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As you said, she could have done it
to you, you did it to her,

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so you have to tell me what you
consider a valid reason and one

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that did not breach the contract
that the two of you entered into.

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Right. Okay. I tried to teach her how to
register

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the puppies and she refused my help.

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So when she registered
the puppies on May 1st,

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she registered one of the females
with full breeding rights.

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Okay.

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[Taylor] That was actually a typo...

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Shh, shh. Just a--I don't want you
to interrupt again.

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- Okay.
- [Judge Judy] She registered one

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of the puppies with full breeding
rights?

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- [PJ] Correct.
- Okay.

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And that was in violation
of what clause of this agreement?

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- Just tell me.
- [PJ] Uh, on the back

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under Breeding Agreement #3.

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[Judge Judy] Okay.

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"All puppies sold must be sold
with limited papers unless agreed

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upon by everyone,

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must be stated in the contract
between future breeding partner."

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Okay.

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So all puppies must be sold
with limited papers,

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I understand what that means.

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You know, that means that they're being
sold

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as pets and...

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The people don't have breeding rights
to the dog.

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[Judge Judy] No, they don't. Correct.

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Right. So she sold it
with full breeding rights or...

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- Okay. Which...
- [PJ] She...

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- One of the...
- [PJ] She registered it with

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- full breeding rights.
- Just a sec.

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- She registered it herself...
- [PJ] Correct.

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[Judge Judy] ...with full breeding
rights to her?

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No, to the person
that bought the dog.

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Kevin, may I see what
she's talking about?

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- [Sarah] And I have that total.
- [Taylor] Your Honor...

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- [Judge Judy] Hmm?
- [Sarah] I have total

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- whenever you're ready.
- Great. What's the total?

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[Sarah] $1,553.35.

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- Great. Thank you.
- Uh-hmm.

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[Taylor] Your Honor, I have evidence.

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- [Judge Judy] Shh. Just a second.
- Okay.

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[Judge Judy] I told you
not to interrupt me again.

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Sorry.

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Subtract that figure from $9,500,
please.

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It's the top one to your left, Judge.

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- [PJ] That's a letter from AKC.
- [Judge Judy] Shh.

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Okay. This says the dog was
registered online with AKC on May 1st

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to the new owner of the dog
with full registration.

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And on July 9th, it was corrected
to limited registration...

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- By myself.
- [Judge Judy] By you?

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- I corrected it.
- No, ma'am.

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- [Judge Judy] Okay. Just--oh.
- [Taylor] Sorry.

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[Judge Judy] If you do it again,
I'm just gonna dismiss your case.

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- Okay. I'm sorry.
- [Judge Judy] And then we're gonna

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be gone.

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Did you in fact allow on May 1st,

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a female puppy to be registered

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with full breeding rights to the person

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that you sold the female puppy to?

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- I did not.
- [Judge Judy] That's either a yes

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- or a no.
- No--yes.

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That's either a yes or a no.
Well, you just told me both things.

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On May 1st when one of the puppies
were sold,

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did you sell that puppy and allow it

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to be registered
with full breeding rights,

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full registration?

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- Did you allow that to happen?
- No.

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[Judge Judy] That's either a yes or
a no?

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- No.
- [Judge Judy] Okay. You have some

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- proof of that.
- [Taylor] Yes.

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I'd like to see it.

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I have that number for you.

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What is it?

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[Sarah] $7,946.65.

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Okay. Thank you.

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Okay.

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So you sold--according to this,

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the animal was sold
with limited full co-own.

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I don't know what that means.

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And it says that said dog

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must be altered by one year
and a copy

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of the alter certificate
must be sent to the seller.

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I don't know what that is,
that you're looking at.

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[Judge Judy] Well, this looks like a
signed...

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[PJ] Is that the contract between
her...

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Shh. This is a contract between her

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and the person to whom
she sold the puppy.

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Okay? You can show it to the
defendant.

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[PJ] Can I explain something?

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J-just look at it before
you explain it.

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Yes.

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[PJ] So, on the day
that she registered the puppies,

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she registered three different
puppies, the one they kept,

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the one they sold that I had no part
in selling,

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and another puppy
that I had sold for them. Out

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of those three puppies, those two
puppies were sold with full breeding

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rights and did not have my kennel
name in the registered name.

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- Okay.
- [PJ] So how was it an accident,

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the puppy that I have no--
I have nothing to do with

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gets full breeding rights?

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And I have--AKC says
they have full breeding rights.

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She registers one puppy correctly,
two puppies incorrectly,

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the two that I have nothing
to do with.

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- So after I...
- [Judge Judy] Just a sec.

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She is attempting to answer that question.

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What is this that you're showing me?

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[Taylor] With--on the highlighted
part,

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where she says that she wanted n-no
responsibility

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or anything to do with the, um,
with rehoming the puppies.

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But you're not rehoming them,
you're selling them.

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- [Taylor] Or selling them. Sorry.
- [Judge Judy] She doesn't.

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- What does have to do with...
- [Taylor] Well, she was saying

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that she wasn't part of it
and that was part of her problem.

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[Judge Judy] No. She doesn't have
to be consulted about your...

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- [Taylor] Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] ...the buyers

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- of your puppies.
- Uh-hmm.

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- I want the dog fixed end of...
- [Judge Judy] Well, I can't do that.

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I mean, I don't have
the equipment here.

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[PJ] Right. So the only thing I--I
wish.

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The only--the only thing
I was able to deal with...

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(chuckles) I would--I would if
I--believe me...

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[PJ] The...

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I would if I could but I can't.

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[theme music playing]

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[announcer] Taylor Lewis has accused
dog breeder PJ Carter of breaching

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their contracts and falsely claiming
full ownership of their Bull Terrier.

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PJ wants Taylor to return the dog
or get her fixed.

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[Judge Judy] Now, they have to be
registered in a proper way

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- according to this contract...
- [Taylor] Uh-hmm.

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...which she says they were not.

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And according to the AKC,

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they were not registered
in a manner consistent with

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the agreement that you had with her,

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which is that she would be consulted,

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you would consult with each other
with regard to breeding.

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- Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] And ownership.

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Well, so it's a problem.

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You wanna keep this dog?
Do you wanna keep this dog?

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[Taylor] Yes. She's a part of my family.

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- She's tattooed on my arm.
- [Judge Judy] Oh, okay.

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And so far, according to Sarah's math

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and according to my figures,

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$10,500 less a thousand dollars
for breeding rights...

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- [Taylor] Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] You had some $1,500

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worth of expenses with regard to the
breeding of this dog,

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which leaves you with a net profit
of almost $8,000, okay?

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- That's not bad, right?
- No, it's not.

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[Judge Judy] And if you deduct
the $2,000 that you paid for the dog,

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you've come up with a nice net figure.

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- Yes.
- [Judge Judy] My question is,

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there were some discussion
in the paperwork

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and you say that
you have a male dog at home

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that you believe probably
is a Bull Terrier.

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You paid $400 for it
so I kind of doubt it.

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But that male dog is not neutered.
Is it now?

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He was going to be now
after this whole situation.

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[Judge Judy] Well, that was a
shoulda, woulda, coulda, this has

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- been going on for a long time.
- [Taylor] Uh-hmm.

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- This is April, May, June, it...
- Two years.

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- Yes.
- [Judge Judy] It--it's been going on

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for a long time,
so I took 'em a long time to,

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to get brains that you don't
if you have no intention

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of breeding a dog
which doesn't have an AKC bloodline,

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and if you, as you said in the
beginning, wanted

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- to bring something to the breed.
- [Taylor] Uh-hmm.

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You don't bring something to the breed

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by allowing a situation to exist
in your home

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where there could be an accident.

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[Taylor] Yes, ma'am. I, I...

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- Okay.
- [Taylor] ...totally agree.

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But I did wanna show you that I did
tell PJ at first when we were talking

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about breeding and everything,
that we had no intention of breeding

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and we would get her spayed
before we got him fixed,

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as well as she came back
and asked if we would stud him.

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[Judge Judy] Okay.
Now I'm listening to you.

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So you have no further

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intention of breeding Adora?

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No, I was gonna breed her one more
time, just not with our male.

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- [Judge Judy] That's a problem.
- Okay.

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I don't have to.
I just want her to be my pet.

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[Judge Judy] Fine.

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If you just want her to be your pet,
and you just want to own her,

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then that seems to be,
even for the defendant,

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a perfectly logical and obvious choice.

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You have her neutered and she will
consent

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to removing her name as co-owner,

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- is that right?
- Yeah, I told her I'd paid fully...

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- [Judge Judy] Just a second.
- ...to put it back in her name.

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[Judge Judy] Just a second.
If that's what you're telling me,

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that's what you want,
you want this dog in your name,

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you want to own her completely

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without any issue with the defendant?

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- Yes. I wanted to be...
- [Judge Judy] Great.

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...able to show her and that was it.

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Just a sec. Well, you can't show her
if she's fixed.

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[Taylor] I know. That's why I have
[indistinct] though.

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[Judge Judy] You know, I know a
little bit--I know a little bit

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about--

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- just a little bit about that.
- Yes, Ma'am, I know.

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Okay. So if you tell me,

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this is very easily resolved.

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- [Taylor] Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] That at this time

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you're telling me that you would
rather have her as a pet,

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she's part of your family
and you will have her neutered?

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And then the defendant
will turn over her papers to you.

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She is your dog for all purposes.

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You can take her.
You can show her around

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wherever you wanna show her
where they allow

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neutered dogs to be shown.

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If you're smart,
you'll have your dog neutered,

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you don't have--there's no reason
for him to be not neutered.

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And if that's what you agreed to do,
in what you're gonna show me,

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I don't see that we have
any problem here.

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Well, that's not
what I was gonna show you.

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- What I--what I was trying to say...
- [Judge Judy] But what, what...

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...is just at the end of the day,
I just want my dog,

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but I wanted to be able to show her,
I wanted to be able to breed her.

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You can't have that
without the agreement with her.

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00:19:05,433 --> 00:19:06,800
- That was your original contract...
- [Taylor] Uh-hmm.

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[Judge Judy] ...with her,
that she co-owns the dog.

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You want the dog? That's the contract.

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That's gonna stay put,
or you want the dog

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all for yourself and you have nothing
to do with the defendant anymore.

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And then I will create that order
that makes it clear that Adora

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will be spayed and not used for
breeding purposes and the dog at

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that point, when proof of neutering
is shown to the defendant,

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she is ordered to return
all the papers to you,

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any documents and,
and provide any documents

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to the AKC which indicate
that she has any interest in the dog.

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Okay. I still wanna breed her and
show her.

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You know, you can't have it both
says. You say to her "I don't have

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an intention of breeding her or
showing her and I just want her,

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she's part of the family."
I'm prepared to do that for you.

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If you don't wanna do that,

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then you're not gonna be able
to breed her.

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Right now, she's in the same kind
of situation she was before.

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She was sold to you with a certain
agreement and you can't

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- breach that agreement.
- [Taylor] Uh-hmm.

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I'm not going to certainly rewrite
the contract.

456
00:20:02,767 --> 00:20:04,600
- No, I didn't expect you to.
- [Judge Judy] Okay. What?

457
00:20:04,667 --> 00:20:06,767
[PJ] There's a part that says
if both parties agree to not have

458
00:20:06,834 --> 00:20:09,100
another litter, she must be spayed
within four months.

459
00:20:09,166 --> 00:20:11,367
And we had both agreed at one point
we're done breeding.

460
00:20:11,433 --> 00:20:13,867
[Judge Judy] Well, she evidently
hasn't made that agreement.

461
00:20:13,934 --> 00:20:16,233
[PJ] Right. I want the dog fixed.
End of...

462
00:20:16,300 --> 00:20:17,633
[Judge Judy] Well, I can't do that.
I mean,

463
00:20:17,700 --> 00:20:18,800
I don't have the equipment here.

464
00:20:18,900 --> 00:20:20,567
- [PJ] Right. So the only thing I...
- But...

465
00:20:20,633 --> 00:20:23,166
I wish. The only--the only thing
I was able to do was...

466
00:20:23,233 --> 00:20:26,100
[Judge Judy] (chuckles) I would--I
would if I--believe me--

467
00:20:26,166 --> 00:20:27,967
I would if I could but I can't. So...

468
00:20:28,033 --> 00:20:30,367
[PJ] The only thing I could do is put
the AKC papers into my name

469
00:20:30,433 --> 00:20:32,967
to encourage her to spay her,
so hopefully no more future puppies

470
00:20:33,033 --> 00:20:34,667
- would be created.
- [Judge Judy] I'm not creating any

471
00:20:34,734 --> 00:20:37,133
order that assists her. Do you understand?

472
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,433
- [PJ] Uh-hmm.
- Right now, what exists

473
00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:42,834
is an order that says she can't
really breed the dog because

474
00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:47,000
she's not gonna be able to sell the
puppies for 2,500 or $3,000 apiece.

475
00:20:47,066 --> 00:20:51,734
She may breed the dog but you have
to sell the puppies for $400 apiece

476
00:20:51,834 --> 00:20:56,200
and if-- what it costs her to breed
the dog with vet bills and

477
00:20:56,266 --> 00:20:58,133
everything else, and she's only gonna get

478
00:20:58,266 --> 00:20:59,500
$400 a puppy, that's an awful

479
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:04,667
lot of trouble to go through to wind
up with a net-net amount of money.

480
00:21:04,734 --> 00:21:06,700
Right. So because I'm not getting
the dog back,

481
00:21:06,767 --> 00:21:09,467
that's why I was doing the counter--
the counterclaim.

482
00:21:09,533 --> 00:21:11,633
[Judge Judy] You're not.
You fixed the problem.

483
00:21:11,700 --> 00:21:13,233
You did that on your own.

484
00:21:13,300 --> 00:21:15,867
Your choice, wanna have the dog neutered?

485
00:21:15,934 --> 00:21:18,200
- She gives you the dog.
- Okay.

486
00:21:18,266 --> 00:21:19,533
- [Judge Judy] You got it?
- [Taylor] Yes.

487
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,500
- Perfect. We're done here.
- [Kevin] Court is adjourned.

488
00:21:22,867 --> 00:21:24,266
I mean, at the end of the day, I'm
happy that Adora

489
00:21:24,333 --> 00:21:25,533
is coming home with me.

490
00:21:25,667 --> 00:21:29,066
I try to be an ethical breeder and
these dogs are my lifelong problem.

491
00:21:29,133 --> 00:21:31,767
She wanted more money,
that's what it was.

492
00:21:31,834 --> 00:21:34,100
It's my duty to protect them
until they die.

493
00:21:35,233 --> 00:21:36,500
[Judge Judy] You know it's interesting?

494
00:21:36,567 --> 00:21:40,300
The defendant in that case
was really interested in the breed

495
00:21:40,367 --> 00:21:42,700
and she was an experienced breeder.

496
00:21:42,767 --> 00:21:44,333
There's no question that the plaintiff and

497
00:21:44,433 --> 00:21:45,533
her husband were just...

498
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,900
- Getting into it.
- And you may...

499
00:21:46,967 --> 00:21:48,200
- It's not just a hobby.
- Yeah.

500
00:21:48,266 --> 00:21:49,967
You have to--it's not just a hobby.
You have to make sure you have

501
00:21:50,033 --> 00:21:51,667
the proper home and the proper papers,

502
00:21:51,734 --> 00:21:53,166
the proper bloodline.

503
00:21:53,233 --> 00:21:56,533
And, and everything. Because what
the plaintiff said was, she got

504
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,900
interested in breeding because she
wants to enhance the breed.

505
00:22:00,100 --> 00:22:03,667
Well, I think that if you're going
to breed AKC animals,

506
00:22:03,734 --> 00:22:06,367
you have to--it has to be
more than just a...

507
00:22:06,433 --> 00:22:08,300
- [Sarah] Hobby.
- Just a hobby.

508
00:22:08,367 --> 00:22:13,500
And I, I say that having experienced
it once and being foolish--

509
00:22:13,567 --> 00:22:16,033
once, it has to be more than just a
hobby.

510
00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:18,433
You really have to be smart and
committed to do that.

511
00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:20,533
- Dedicated.
- Right.

512
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