1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,433 He used your debit card? 2 00:00:02,500 --> 00:00:03,500 Yes. 3 00:00:03,767 --> 00:00:05,300 I need proof. 4 00:00:05,834 --> 00:00:08,967 There's something here that has to do with men. 5 00:00:09,033 --> 00:00:10,133 I have no idea. 6 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,867 They're male enhancement pills 'cause he's impotent. 7 00:00:12,934 --> 00:00:14,633 That's not true, Your Honor. (laughs) 8 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:17,000 Well, then, you stayed with the wrong guy for a couple of months. 9 00:00:17,066 --> 00:00:19,433 [announcer] This is Judy Justice. 10 00:00:19,967 --> 00:00:22,967 [theme music playing] 11 00:00:37,300 --> 00:00:39,867 [announcer] Previously on Judy Justice. 12 00:00:39,934 --> 00:00:44,667 It says, "In June, I woke up and there was a random girl 13 00:00:44,734 --> 00:00:46,900 in my house at 2:00 in the morning. 14 00:00:46,967 --> 00:00:51,767 Joseph came into my room, he put a gun to my head and said, 15 00:00:51,834 --> 00:00:54,033 "Don't ever tell me who I can have over.'" 16 00:00:54,100 --> 00:00:57,066 This is this whole story you made up with your sister 17 00:00:57,133 --> 00:01:00,333 because you did try to get a restraining order against him. 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,266 There's nothing there about your sister. 19 00:01:02,333 --> 00:01:05,432 Just--don't say anything that's gonna make you look stupid 20 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:08,233 because I'm a pro at that. 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,266 The police refused to put him off the property. 22 00:01:12,333 --> 00:01:14,333 - That's a yes? - [Marinda] Yes. 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,800 [chuckles] Now we see it's all coming together. 24 00:01:17,867 --> 00:01:20,500 I was in a good mood. I'm getting in a better mood. 25 00:01:22,367 --> 00:01:24,667 [announcer] And now, the conclusion. 26 00:01:25,133 --> 00:01:29,367 Marinda Conway has accused her former friend with benefits, 27 00:01:29,433 --> 00:01:32,133 Joseph Ethier, of withholding her property 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,600 and using her debit card without permission. 29 00:01:34,667 --> 00:01:38,700 Joseph says Marinda filed a false restraining order against him. 30 00:01:38,767 --> 00:01:40,667 So then your sister went to court 31 00:01:40,734 --> 00:01:43,900 and filed for a restraining order 32 00:01:43,967 --> 00:01:46,233 and she alleged to--let me guess, 33 00:01:46,300 --> 00:01:49,166 in the restraining order that he put a gun to her head. 34 00:01:49,233 --> 00:01:50,533 - Is that what you did? - Correct. 35 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,500 [laughs] 36 00:01:52,567 --> 00:01:54,166 In order to get him off the property? 37 00:01:54,233 --> 00:01:55,734 - Uh-hmm. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 38 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,633 Ultimately, that restraining order was dismissed, am I correct? 39 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:00,667 Correct. 40 00:02:00,734 --> 00:02:03,433 [Judge Judy] But did you in fact for a period of time, 41 00:02:03,500 --> 00:02:05,533 between the time it was dismissed 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,233 and the time you filed it get him off the property? 43 00:02:08,300 --> 00:02:10,366 - Yes, it had a move out order. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 44 00:02:10,433 --> 00:02:13,800 Of course, because the judge said, based upon what you wrote, 45 00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:17,667 that he put a gun to your head, that he was a threat to you, 46 00:02:17,734 --> 00:02:19,166 so you and your sister 47 00:02:19,233 --> 00:02:21,667 - managed to get him off the property. - Right. 48 00:02:21,734 --> 00:02:25,000 [Judge Judy] And because you didn't show up for the restraining order hearing 49 00:02:25,066 --> 00:02:29,934 or because the judge heard the hearing and dismissed it, it was dismissed? 50 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Correct. 51 00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:34,133 Oh, I'm still in a good mood. 52 00:02:34,533 --> 00:02:35,533 I'm so glad. 53 00:02:36,934 --> 00:02:39,400 [Judge Judy] So I only have a couple of questions for you, sir, 54 00:02:39,466 --> 00:02:41,100 now that my job is made easier 55 00:02:41,166 --> 00:02:43,367 'cause I know who I'm dealing with on this side. 56 00:02:43,433 --> 00:02:45,533 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] And I know a little bit 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,400 about whom I'm dealing with on this side. 58 00:02:48,466 --> 00:02:51,100 There are a couple of easy parts to this story now 59 00:02:51,166 --> 00:02:53,600 that we understand the characters here, 60 00:02:53,667 --> 00:02:56,633 - who want from you, like, $9,000. - [Joseph] Yeah. 61 00:02:56,700 --> 00:02:57,966 You took her car? 62 00:02:58,033 --> 00:02:59,433 No, I did not take her car. 63 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:00,934 Do you know who took her car? 64 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,133 - Yes, I do. - [Judge Judy] Who did? 65 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,100 My ex-girlfriend. 66 00:03:03,166 --> 00:03:06,900 [Judge Judy] And the ex-girlfriend was also a girlfriend 67 00:03:06,967 --> 00:03:09,633 when you were sort of friends with benefits 68 00:03:09,700 --> 00:03:10,767 - with her in March or not? - [Joseph] No. 69 00:03:10,834 --> 00:03:11,967 We split up. 70 00:03:12,033 --> 00:03:14,500 - [Judge Judy] You had split up? - That's why I rented the house. 71 00:03:14,567 --> 00:03:16,433 And your ex-girlfriend's name is? 72 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:17,333 [...] 73 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,533 [Judge Judy] And the car was impounded. 74 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,200 Do you know when your ex-girlfriend took the car? 75 00:03:21,266 --> 00:03:22,100 No, I do not. 76 00:03:22,166 --> 00:03:24,233 Did you give the police that information? 77 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:26,466 No, I did not. And I never spoke to the police about a car. 78 00:03:26,533 --> 00:03:29,166 [Judge Judy] How did you find out that your car was in impound? 79 00:03:29,233 --> 00:03:32,433 I came in on my flight from Oregon on July 1st, 80 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:34,500 I went by the house, my car was gone. 81 00:03:34,567 --> 00:03:37,266 I thought maybe it got towed until I called the city 82 00:03:37,333 --> 00:03:38,533 to see if it got towed. 83 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,600 They said no, it didn't get towed. 84 00:03:39,667 --> 00:03:43,033 I tried calling Rick several times until--for the next two days, 85 00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:45,700 I called him to see if maybe he had the car for some reason. 86 00:03:46,133 --> 00:03:49,100 He never did answer my call, and in July 4th, 87 00:03:49,166 --> 00:03:50,667 I reported the car stolen. 88 00:03:50,734 --> 00:03:53,834 July 24th, his ex-girlfriend got ahold me. 89 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:55,333 Facebook messaged me, said that... 90 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:56,433 [Judge Judy] Just a--just a second. 91 00:03:56,500 --> 00:03:58,000 Don't tell me what she said to you. 92 00:03:58,066 --> 00:03:59,834 If you have it in your phone, 93 00:03:59,900 --> 00:04:01,533 - I will look at it. - [Marinda] Okay. 94 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,667 So he says that his ex-girlfriend took the car. 95 00:04:04,734 --> 00:04:09,300 So now I'd like to see what you have from her in your text messages. 96 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,266 - I don't have a whole bunch of time here. - [Marinda] I know. 97 00:04:17,332 --> 00:04:18,166 - Well then... - I'm trying to... 98 00:04:18,233 --> 00:04:19,300 I don't know how to spell her name. 99 00:04:19,367 --> 00:04:20,500 [Judge Judy] Well, listen to me. 100 00:04:20,567 --> 00:04:24,767 It is your allegation that the defendant took your car. 101 00:04:24,834 --> 00:04:26,400 - [Marinda] Uh-hmm. - [Judge Judy] Without your permission. 102 00:04:26,467 --> 00:04:27,633 - [Marinda] I have a sworn statement... - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 103 00:04:27,700 --> 00:04:29,266 ...from the person that he took the car to, 104 00:04:29,332 --> 00:04:31,266 - saying that he brought the car there. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 105 00:04:31,332 --> 00:04:34,133 - When the cops found it. - [Judge Judy] I need proof. 106 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,166 - If you have a police report... - [Marinda] I do. 107 00:04:36,233 --> 00:04:38,100 ...I will read a police report. 108 00:04:42,567 --> 00:04:43,567 Here you go. 109 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,200 - And then I have the conversation... - Shh. 110 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:58,467 Okay. 111 00:04:58,533 --> 00:05:02,467 So now I have a report that you made of the stolen vehicle that says 112 00:05:02,533 --> 00:05:03,967 that you don't know who took the car. 113 00:05:04,033 --> 00:05:05,600 Right. I didn't know who took the car. 114 00:05:05,667 --> 00:05:08,567 And this is the page--maybe she deleted her account before... 115 00:05:08,633 --> 00:05:09,700 - [Judge Judy] Just a second. - ...coming here. 116 00:05:09,767 --> 00:05:11,900 [Judge Judy] Just a second. The only thing that I'm entertaining now 117 00:05:11,967 --> 00:05:14,266 is getting the car out of impound and what it'll cost you 118 00:05:14,333 --> 00:05:16,100 - to get the car out of impound. - Uh-hmm. 119 00:05:16,166 --> 00:05:17,133 [Judge Judy] And in order to do that, 120 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,367 I have to determine if he took the car in retaliation 121 00:05:20,433 --> 00:05:24,900 or for whatever reason or if he importuned somebody else to take the car. 122 00:05:24,967 --> 00:05:26,500 Did you tell your girlfriend to take the car? 123 00:05:26,567 --> 00:05:27,433 - Never. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 124 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:28,967 Your ex-girlfriend to take the car. 125 00:05:29,033 --> 00:05:32,500 So now you have exactly 30 seconds to produce proof to me, 126 00:05:32,567 --> 00:05:35,367 'cause that's why we're here today, that's one of the allegations. 127 00:05:35,433 --> 00:05:36,467 - And this. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 128 00:05:36,533 --> 00:05:37,967 - This is the impound bill. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 129 00:05:38,033 --> 00:05:40,500 Just a--I just wanna see proof 130 00:05:41,133 --> 00:05:44,300 that he was the person who took your car. 131 00:05:44,367 --> 00:05:47,533 [Marinda] Okay. So here's the Facebook messages from her. 132 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,734 And another one, he's giving me the address after [indistinct] 133 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,900 [Judge Judy] Just a second. I wanna see... 134 00:05:50,967 --> 00:05:53,200 This is from the guy that-- where he took the car to, 135 00:05:53,266 --> 00:05:56,066 where the cops found the car, it's a statement from him saying that-- 136 00:05:56,133 --> 00:05:58,133 I don't read a statement from anybody. 137 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,900 Okay. And then here's the impound fee. 138 00:06:01,633 --> 00:06:02,867 [Shani] Find the other thing. 139 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,433 [Judge Judy] All right. Your ex-girlfriend's name is [...]? 140 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:13,567 Yes. 141 00:06:13,633 --> 00:06:16,533 [Judge Judy] Are you sure that you don't want to acknowledge to me 142 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,166 that you had something to do with getting her car impounded? 143 00:06:20,233 --> 00:06:21,500 I had nothing to do with it. 144 00:06:21,567 --> 00:06:24,467 That you never drove her car off the premises? 145 00:06:24,533 --> 00:06:26,133 Never drove--no, I did not. 146 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,900 [Judge Judy] Did your girlfriend drive the car off the premises? 147 00:06:28,967 --> 00:06:29,800 Apparently, she did. 148 00:06:29,867 --> 00:06:31,200 - [Judge Judy] No, not apparently. - Yes. 149 00:06:31,266 --> 00:06:33,700 Were you in communication with her? 150 00:06:34,166 --> 00:06:35,933 That's either a yes or a no. 151 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Yes. 152 00:06:39,933 --> 00:06:42,900 Listen, it was by your choice because you slept with him there. 153 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,266 My mistake was sleeping with him. 154 00:06:44,332 --> 00:06:46,300 Well, just a second. It was your mistake 155 00:06:46,367 --> 00:06:47,867 - because you slept with him there. - Right. 156 00:06:47,933 --> 00:06:49,767 Never gonna figure out this whole scenario. 157 00:06:49,834 --> 00:06:54,033 I'm really getting a zha-zha in my head as a result of it. 158 00:06:58,933 --> 00:07:02,066 [theme music playing] 159 00:07:05,567 --> 00:07:09,767 [announcer] Marinda Conway has accused her former friend with benefits, 160 00:07:09,834 --> 00:07:12,700 Joseph Ethier, of withholding her property 161 00:07:12,767 --> 00:07:15,233 and using her debit card without permission. 162 00:07:15,300 --> 00:07:19,433 Joseph says Marinda filed a false restraining order against him. 163 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:22,300 Okay. On what date were you in communication 164 00:07:22,367 --> 00:07:24,066 with the now ex-girlfriend? 165 00:07:24,133 --> 00:07:25,867 Um, here and there ever since... 166 00:07:25,934 --> 00:07:27,266 [Judge Judy] Here and there and everywhere? 167 00:07:27,332 --> 00:07:30,500 - She's... - Did you discuss with her the car? 168 00:07:30,567 --> 00:07:32,266 - No. - Who's [...]? 169 00:07:32,332 --> 00:07:33,233 He's a friend of mine. 170 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:35,633 Tell me what he had to do with this car, sir? 171 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:38,266 Apparently, the car was found on his property. 172 00:07:38,332 --> 00:07:40,300 Where he lives in an apartment complex or... 173 00:07:40,367 --> 00:07:41,533 Now, he's your friend? 174 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:42,667 - [Joseph] Yes, he is. - Yes. 175 00:07:42,734 --> 00:07:45,166 You're gonna pay the impound fees, $330. 176 00:07:45,233 --> 00:07:46,332 Okay. Uh-hmm. 177 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,433 - And [indistinct] when I got the car... - [Judge Judy] Yeah, don't speak. 178 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:49,433 - Don't... - It had a cracked windshield. 179 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:51,600 - [Judge Judy] Don't--listen. - My stereo was pulled out of it. 180 00:07:51,667 --> 00:07:53,567 [Judge Judy] Listen. Did you take his stuff? 181 00:07:53,633 --> 00:07:54,767 - No. - [Judge Judy] Did you take anything 182 00:07:54,834 --> 00:07:55,900 that belongs to him? 183 00:07:55,967 --> 00:07:58,633 At some point, did you take it and then give it back? 184 00:07:58,700 --> 00:07:59,700 - When I didn't... - [Judge Judy] Question, 185 00:07:59,767 --> 00:08:01,433 did you take it and give it back? 186 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:02,800 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] That's all I asked you. 187 00:08:02,867 --> 00:08:04,100 You took it and you gave it back. 188 00:08:04,166 --> 00:08:05,900 But it was stuff that I gave him that I took. 189 00:08:05,967 --> 00:08:08,233 Who cares? Once you give something, that's a gift. 190 00:08:08,300 --> 00:08:10,300 - [Marinda] Right. Right. - You can't take it and give it back, 191 00:08:10,367 --> 00:08:11,867 and then take it and give it back. 192 00:08:11,934 --> 00:08:13,200 You took his things. 193 00:08:13,266 --> 00:08:14,266 That's not true... 194 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,200 - I didn't ask you anything. - [Joseph] Okay. 195 00:08:16,967 --> 00:08:19,600 [Judge Judy] Now what property did you take of hers 196 00:08:19,667 --> 00:08:24,467 that you were holding onto as a result of this stupid seat situation? 197 00:08:24,533 --> 00:08:27,467 What I did was withheld her stuff from her that she left in the house. 198 00:08:27,533 --> 00:08:28,533 [Judge Judy] Where is it? 199 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,667 It's still--yeah, I left it in the house when I left. 200 00:08:30,734 --> 00:08:31,767 What stuff? 201 00:08:31,834 --> 00:08:33,533 [Joseph] Uh, her clothes, everything she left in the house. 202 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,133 - [Judge Judy] It's still there? - [Joseph] It's--was still there, 203 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,467 I have a video of, uh, documentation of when I left the house. 204 00:08:37,533 --> 00:08:40,667 [Judge Judy] Okay. What is it that you claim that he... 205 00:08:40,734 --> 00:08:43,033 He took the whole house, everything in that house was mine. 206 00:08:43,100 --> 00:08:45,165 He took the whole house. And more than anything, 207 00:08:45,233 --> 00:08:47,700 I just want my videos back of my kids 208 00:08:47,767 --> 00:08:50,200 and, um, videos back of my ex, because he's passed away. 209 00:08:50,266 --> 00:08:51,233 And that's all that we have. 210 00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:52,900 I don't care if he keeps my stuff. 211 00:08:52,967 --> 00:08:54,500 I want the videos back. 212 00:08:54,567 --> 00:08:55,600 [Judge Judy] Okay. 213 00:08:56,165 --> 00:08:57,200 Very carefully. 214 00:08:57,266 --> 00:08:58,133 [Joseph] Uh-hmm. 215 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,500 Because, you know, I'm an equal opportunity abuser. 216 00:09:01,567 --> 00:09:02,567 [Joseph] I understand. 217 00:09:02,767 --> 00:09:04,033 And everything in the house was mine 218 00:09:04,100 --> 00:09:05,233 - because I was living there. - [Judge Judy] Shh. Just a second. 219 00:09:05,300 --> 00:09:06,533 So was he. 220 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,667 Not by my choice. 221 00:09:07,734 --> 00:09:09,166 [Judge Judy] Listen, it was by your choice 222 00:09:09,233 --> 00:09:11,033 - because you slept with him there. - [Marinda] Right. 223 00:09:11,500 --> 00:09:12,700 My mistake for sleeping with him. 224 00:09:12,767 --> 00:09:13,667 [Judge Judy] Well, just a sec. 225 00:09:13,734 --> 00:09:15,900 It was your mistake because you slept with him there. 226 00:09:15,967 --> 00:09:17,667 I mean, he wasn't a trespasser. 227 00:09:18,333 --> 00:09:19,200 Okay. 228 00:09:19,266 --> 00:09:21,166 Never gonna figure out this whole scenario, 229 00:09:21,233 --> 00:09:25,567 I'm really getting a zha-zha in my head as a result of this. 230 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,066 She wants her stuff. 231 00:09:28,133 --> 00:09:29,767 - Did you throw it away? - No, I did not. 232 00:09:29,834 --> 00:09:31,834 [Judge Judy] So that means that you still have some of it? 233 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:34,133 [Joseph] I don't have any of it when I left the premises. 234 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,200 I left it in the house. 235 00:09:35,266 --> 00:09:37,834 When I got thrown out of the house, I had 15 minutes to get my stuff. 236 00:09:37,900 --> 00:09:40,400 So, the cops let me go get my stuff, I left, 237 00:09:40,467 --> 00:09:42,767 my friends went back to get what they could of mine. 238 00:09:42,834 --> 00:09:44,700 And they left everything of hers. 239 00:09:44,767 --> 00:09:46,367 - [Judge Judy] Just a second. - But they took everything. 240 00:09:46,433 --> 00:09:49,567 [Judge Judy] So is what you're telling me, that friends of yours went in. 241 00:09:49,633 --> 00:09:50,500 Yes. 242 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,066 Asked your friends to go in and get stuff. 243 00:09:54,133 --> 00:09:55,000 My stuff. 244 00:09:55,066 --> 00:09:57,165 [Judge Judy] Well, they took other stuff. 245 00:09:57,233 --> 00:09:58,633 - [Joseph] No, what they took... - They took the whole house. 246 00:09:58,700 --> 00:09:59,533 [Judge Judy] Don't. 247 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:00,800 [Joseph] Okay. While they were doing it, 248 00:10:00,867 --> 00:10:03,600 we were doing the Duo video chat or whatever, 249 00:10:03,667 --> 00:10:06,667 and I was pointing out to them what to take and what not to take. 250 00:10:06,734 --> 00:10:10,433 And then I have a video document everything that was left in the house, 251 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:11,600 which is on my phone. 252 00:10:11,667 --> 00:10:12,934 And it's all her stuff. 253 00:10:13,266 --> 00:10:15,033 [Marinda] I have pictures of the house when we came into it. 254 00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:16,700 It was completely emptied off. 255 00:10:16,767 --> 00:10:18,900 I have pictures of the house before I left there. 256 00:10:18,967 --> 00:10:20,867 - [Joseph] Uh-hmm. - And pictures of my stuff in the room. 257 00:10:20,934 --> 00:10:23,934 And then when we got entry into the house and it all being emptied up. 258 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:24,867 What? 259 00:10:24,934 --> 00:10:25,867 [Shani] He took the blinds off the windows. 260 00:10:25,934 --> 00:10:26,800 I mean, he left it bare. 261 00:10:26,867 --> 00:10:28,300 [Judge Judy] Let me explain something to you. 262 00:10:28,367 --> 00:10:31,667 It's very hard when people start out by lying to me. 263 00:10:31,734 --> 00:10:34,100 - Uh-hmm. - [Judge Judy] To have any sympathy 264 00:10:34,165 --> 00:10:35,900 whatsoever for them. 265 00:10:35,967 --> 00:10:37,600 The person who started out lying was him. 266 00:10:37,667 --> 00:10:40,200 No, the people starting out lying was you. 267 00:10:40,266 --> 00:10:41,300 - No, it wasn't. - [Judge Judy] Oh, yeah. 268 00:10:41,367 --> 00:10:42,567 You want me to read you what you wrote? 269 00:10:42,633 --> 00:10:44,500 - Uh-hmm. I guess my... - [Judge Judy] In your complaint? 270 00:10:44,567 --> 00:10:45,433 You want me to read you the first line? 271 00:10:45,500 --> 00:10:46,834 [Marinda] Um, I have my timeline of everything going down. 272 00:10:46,900 --> 00:10:48,467 No, no, no. No, just--I'm gonna read you 273 00:10:48,533 --> 00:10:50,433 what you swore to in your complaint. 274 00:10:50,500 --> 00:10:51,734 I've read it to you before. 275 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,567 And it bears no reasonable resemblance 276 00:10:55,633 --> 00:10:57,767 to the story that just came out here today. 277 00:10:57,834 --> 00:10:58,934 Absolutely none. 278 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,000 So with what you're saying to me, and now you can sit, 279 00:11:02,066 --> 00:11:04,900 if what you're saying to me is the only thing 280 00:11:04,967 --> 00:11:07,367 that you're interested in are the tapes, 281 00:11:07,433 --> 00:11:09,100 and pictures, and photographs, 282 00:11:09,166 --> 00:11:12,800 which are irreplaceable that were taken, he doesn't have them. 283 00:11:12,867 --> 00:11:14,834 - Yes, he does. - So I can't place the value on them. 284 00:11:14,900 --> 00:11:16,500 I have his friend Bobby was the one 285 00:11:16,567 --> 00:11:18,200 - who went and picked up my stuff. - And my door that got kicked down. 286 00:11:18,266 --> 00:11:19,100 I don't want you to speak. 287 00:11:19,166 --> 00:11:20,200 [Marinda] I have a recorded statement from his best friend, 288 00:11:20,266 --> 00:11:22,800 saying that he--that he paid him to go clean out the house, 289 00:11:22,867 --> 00:11:24,734 - I have it recorded on my phone. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 290 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,133 Just a second. What I'm telling you is if what--your complaint is 291 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,734 that you want money for the storage of the car 292 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,934 and getting it out of impound, that you're gonna get. 293 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,700 - And the value of my accounts. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 294 00:11:36,767 --> 00:11:38,700 That, you're gonna get. 295 00:11:38,767 --> 00:11:40,266 The next thing that you complain about 296 00:11:40,333 --> 00:11:42,600 are things that were taken out of the house. 297 00:11:42,667 --> 00:11:44,567 - Yeah. - [Judge Judy] The things that you told me 298 00:11:44,633 --> 00:11:47,700 - that you really want are memorabilia. - [Marinda] Uh-hmm. 299 00:11:47,767 --> 00:11:49,133 - Yeah. - Tapes. 300 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,200 He says he doesn't have them. 301 00:11:51,266 --> 00:11:52,133 He's lying. 302 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,834 [Judge Judy] Well, he may be lying, so were you. 303 00:11:53,900 --> 00:11:55,000 I don't know. 304 00:11:55,066 --> 00:11:58,967 The final thing that I have to deal with are debit card charges. 305 00:11:59,033 --> 00:12:01,233 So now I want you to show me 306 00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:05,300 what you claim he took out from your debit card. 307 00:12:05,367 --> 00:12:07,767 - He made online purchases. - Just a second. 308 00:12:07,834 --> 00:12:10,033 - [Marinda] He never had my debit card. - Just a second, just a second. 309 00:12:10,100 --> 00:12:11,734 I always physically had it. 310 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,633 But he took a picture of my debit card 311 00:12:13,700 --> 00:12:16,100 and then made online purchases from my debit card. 312 00:12:16,166 --> 00:12:18,233 All I'm asking you is to show me. 313 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:19,200 [Marinda] This right here. 314 00:12:19,266 --> 00:12:23,200 Show me that he made online purchases from your debit card. 315 00:12:23,266 --> 00:12:25,333 - [Marinda] Okay. There you go. - I just need proof that he made... 316 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,900 Here in July-- I found out about it in July. 317 00:12:27,967 --> 00:12:32,266 [Judge Judy] Just a second. Does anything that you are giving to Kevin 318 00:12:32,333 --> 00:12:36,066 demonstrate that he used your debit card? 319 00:12:36,133 --> 00:12:37,300 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] Fine. 320 00:12:37,367 --> 00:12:39,133 Don't hand me a whole bunch of papers. 321 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,367 Take a pen, point out, where he... 322 00:12:41,433 --> 00:12:42,467 I already did. They're circled. 323 00:12:42,533 --> 00:12:43,667 Perfect. 324 00:12:45,367 --> 00:12:47,165 That's June and I have July here. 325 00:12:47,967 --> 00:12:51,133 And then some of the items I found in the house when I gained entry, 326 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,433 which was a tool bag that he bought from Home Depot for $389, 327 00:12:54,500 --> 00:12:56,300 I have that receipt here in my phone. 328 00:12:56,367 --> 00:12:58,133 - [Judge Judy] Okay. - Some combat boots 329 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,100 that he bought [indistinct] 330 00:12:59,165 --> 00:13:00,867 Nine dollars for some--shh. 331 00:13:01,333 --> 00:13:04,934 Amazon, debit purchase, $54. 332 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,600 Doesn't say for what. 333 00:13:06,667 --> 00:13:09,767 Amazon purchase, which I assume was delivered to the house. 334 00:13:09,834 --> 00:13:11,734 - That was in June. - Uh-hmm. 335 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,900 - Were you still living together... - I left the house in June. 336 00:13:13,967 --> 00:13:15,567 - [Judge Judy] Shh. - June 6th. 337 00:13:15,633 --> 00:13:17,867 You left the house June 6th. 338 00:13:17,934 --> 00:13:19,066 And those charges started happening 339 00:13:19,133 --> 00:13:19,967 - June 8th. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 340 00:13:20,033 --> 00:13:21,567 When did you return to the house? 341 00:13:21,633 --> 00:13:22,934 - [Marinda] I never did. - [Judge Judy] After June? 342 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,734 I returned there August 5th. 343 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,800 [Judge Judy] Oh. 344 00:13:27,033 --> 00:13:28,834 [Marinda] And I have a picture of the tool bag I found. 345 00:13:28,900 --> 00:13:33,300 There was a $389 tool bag bought from homedepot.com, shipped to the house, 346 00:13:33,367 --> 00:13:35,700 that was in the house when I gained entry into the house, 347 00:13:35,867 --> 00:13:37,333 which I took from the house. 348 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,533 - And then-- - Just a second. 349 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:39,600 So you took it from the house? 350 00:13:39,667 --> 00:13:41,467 - Yes, uh-huh. - [Judge Judy] Okay. Just a minute. 351 00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:46,767 I don't think that the courts are supposed to be abused... 352 00:13:46,834 --> 00:13:48,633 - I am... - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 353 00:13:48,700 --> 00:13:49,934 You had a choice. 354 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,567 You had a choice not to commit fraud by lying to the court, 355 00:13:53,633 --> 00:13:58,000 because the three of you were involved in this ever-crazier arrangement. 356 00:14:03,133 --> 00:14:06,200 [theme music playing] 357 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,066 [announcer] Marinda Conway claims defendant Joseph Ethier 358 00:14:14,133 --> 00:14:18,133 used her debit card without permission and threatened her with a gun. 359 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,433 Joseph claims the restraining order against him was dismissed. 360 00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:25,400 - Well, both of you made charges on this. - No. 361 00:14:25,467 --> 00:14:26,867 [Judge Judy] Both of you made charges on the debit card. 362 00:14:26,934 --> 00:14:27,767 I don't buy anything online. 363 00:14:27,834 --> 00:14:31,934 [Judge Judy] However, I have to ask you this question, Mr. Ethier, 364 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,500 there's something here that has to do with muscle men. 365 00:14:37,367 --> 00:14:39,100 - What is that? - [Joseph] I have no idea. 366 00:14:39,433 --> 00:14:40,266 No idea whatsoever. 367 00:14:40,333 --> 00:14:42,500 They're male enhancement pills 'cause he's impotent. 368 00:14:42,567 --> 00:14:44,100 Uh, that's not true, Your Honor. (laughs) 369 00:14:44,165 --> 00:14:46,567 Well, then you stayed with the wrong guy for a couple of months. 370 00:14:47,467 --> 00:14:48,967 - I never, ever charged any... - [Judge Judy] Just... 371 00:14:49,033 --> 00:14:50,834 - Okay. - [Judge Judy] Is what you're telling me, 372 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:54,667 'cause nothing says that it was shipped or that you ordered it. 373 00:14:54,734 --> 00:14:56,266 - Uh-hmm. - [Judge Judy] Unless you can show me 374 00:14:56,333 --> 00:14:58,700 other than the fact that you circled things that say... 375 00:14:58,767 --> 00:15:00,734 I got my whole year history here, 376 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,233 I don't--I'm--I don't buy online. 377 00:15:02,300 --> 00:15:03,800 I don't buy anything on Amazon. 378 00:15:03,867 --> 00:15:05,333 And I have, um, 379 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,000 - Home Depot recorded statement... - [Judge Judy] Okay. So... 380 00:15:07,066 --> 00:15:08,900 ...from them saying that everything did get shipped, 381 00:15:08,967 --> 00:15:11,567 I recorded my conversations with my bank, 382 00:15:11,633 --> 00:15:13,867 saying that everything was shipped and they reversed the credit. 383 00:15:13,934 --> 00:15:15,800 - I have it all recorded. - I don't wanna listen to the bank. 384 00:15:15,867 --> 00:15:17,667 - That's still hearsay, madam. - Uh-hmm. 385 00:15:17,734 --> 00:15:20,300 I wanna see proof that you have, 386 00:15:20,367 --> 00:15:21,900 that he used this debit card. 387 00:15:21,967 --> 00:15:23,266 [Marinda] Okay. So he bought--okay, so... 388 00:15:23,333 --> 00:15:25,367 - Just not--just proof... - [Marinda] On that bank statement, 389 00:15:25,433 --> 00:15:28,633 there is a Home Depot charge for $389 390 00:15:28,700 --> 00:15:31,233 and he bought this tool bag with that I took from the house, 391 00:15:31,300 --> 00:15:33,133 and I have the receipt from Home Depot right here. 392 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,033 [Judge Judy] Okay. Now, you now have that item. 393 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:37,233 - That's correct. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 394 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:38,967 Tell me about that item. 395 00:15:39,033 --> 00:15:40,500 That is what my witness is for. 396 00:15:40,567 --> 00:15:42,533 The item that she's speaking of, the tool bag, 397 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,834 was his tool bag that she stole out of my truck. 398 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:46,433 She broke into my truck and took his... 399 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:47,667 - [Judge Judy] Just a second. - Uh-hmm. 400 00:15:47,734 --> 00:15:48,667 Who purchased it? 401 00:15:48,734 --> 00:15:50,200 [Joseph] I don't know. It wasn't me. 402 00:15:50,266 --> 00:15:51,333 - And it wasn't him. - [Judge Judy] What... 403 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,567 I've got her several times accusing... 404 00:15:52,633 --> 00:15:53,633 It happens to be the same one... 405 00:15:53,700 --> 00:15:54,567 [Judge Judy] Just a second, just a second. 406 00:15:54,633 --> 00:15:57,633 [Joseph] I have--I have her accusing three different people of using her card. 407 00:15:57,700 --> 00:15:59,934 Me, him, his girlfriend, and then back to me again. 408 00:16:00,066 --> 00:16:01,533 - Well, that's possible. - [Joseph] Yeah. 409 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,800 But these tools were purchased at Home--listen to me. 410 00:16:04,867 --> 00:16:05,867 Yes. 411 00:16:06,500 --> 00:16:09,033 The tools were purchased at Home Depot. 412 00:16:09,100 --> 00:16:09,967 [Joseph] Right. 413 00:16:10,033 --> 00:16:12,834 [Judge Judy] She took the tools that were in the house, 414 00:16:12,900 --> 00:16:16,200 she--so they must've been a lot of tools, either in the house or in the truck. 415 00:16:16,266 --> 00:16:18,767 - Just the tool bag. - [Judge Judy] But she paid for them. 416 00:16:18,834 --> 00:16:19,834 No, ma'am. 417 00:16:19,900 --> 00:16:22,133 These were his existing tool bags that she took. 418 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,767 - No, this was a brand new tool bag... - These, these--okay. 419 00:16:23,834 --> 00:16:24,867 that I have the receipt for. 420 00:16:24,934 --> 00:16:26,233 - They even gave me a picture of it. - [Judge Judy] I'd like to see it. 421 00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:27,166 I'd like to see it. 422 00:16:27,233 --> 00:16:28,433 [Marinda] Okay. So here's the receipt. 423 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:30,967 [Joseph] If she has a receipt, I mean, she paid for it, right? 424 00:16:31,033 --> 00:16:32,266 - [Marinda] Right here. - Don't talk. 425 00:16:32,333 --> 00:16:34,367 [Marinda] There's the receipt, and then the next picture over 426 00:16:34,433 --> 00:16:35,967 is the tool bag I got from the house. 427 00:16:45,734 --> 00:16:48,200 And this happens to be the same tool bag as in my receipt. 428 00:16:48,266 --> 00:16:49,500 - [Judge Judy] And you took it? - I did. 429 00:16:49,567 --> 00:16:50,867 Do you have any use for a tool bag? 430 00:16:50,934 --> 00:16:51,800 [Shani] She was gonna give it to the... 431 00:16:51,867 --> 00:16:53,266 - [Judge Judy] Did you-- - [Shani] ...cops for evidence. 432 00:16:53,333 --> 00:16:54,567 I tried to give it to the cops for evidence. 433 00:16:54,633 --> 00:16:55,700 - Just a second. - [Marinda] Yeah. 434 00:16:55,767 --> 00:16:57,400 Don't speak. 435 00:16:58,433 --> 00:16:59,567 This isn't a dance. 436 00:16:59,633 --> 00:17:02,000 And then, um, on my other account, 437 00:17:02,066 --> 00:17:04,599 there was $953 in purchases, 438 00:17:04,666 --> 00:17:08,867 and one of them is for a Plenty of Fish dating site 439 00:17:08,934 --> 00:17:12,032 that I asked Plenty of Fish to investigate it and it was his profile. 440 00:17:12,099 --> 00:17:13,467 [Judge Judy] Just--okay. 441 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:17,032 $841. 442 00:17:17,099 --> 00:17:21,000 That includes the two things that I find over there that were in fact yours, sir. 443 00:17:21,066 --> 00:17:23,133 And the $330 for the towing. 444 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,633 Judgment for the plaintiff, we're finished. 445 00:17:24,700 --> 00:17:25,900 - Thank you. - What about my other accounts? 446 00:17:25,967 --> 00:17:27,066 - [Kevin] Court is adjourned. - All the... 447 00:17:27,133 --> 00:17:30,333 You should be very lucky that I'm awarding you anything. 448 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,667 I'm gonna tell you why. 449 00:17:31,734 --> 00:17:34,400 You used the court to get him out of the house. 450 00:17:34,467 --> 00:17:36,500 - Uh-hmm. - [Judge Judy] With a false allegation 451 00:17:36,567 --> 00:17:39,000 because you couldn't get him out of the house otherwise. 452 00:17:39,066 --> 00:17:42,100 - Yeah. - You're very lucky that you got a penny. 453 00:17:42,166 --> 00:17:43,500 Do you understand? 454 00:17:43,567 --> 00:17:46,033 I don't think that the courts are supposed to be abused 455 00:17:46,100 --> 00:17:47,567 - like that. - Uh-hmm. 456 00:17:47,633 --> 00:17:49,633 - [Judge Judy] When housing court is a... - I [indistinct] 457 00:17:49,700 --> 00:17:50,567 [Judge Judy] Just a second. 458 00:17:50,633 --> 00:17:51,834 You had a choice. 459 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:55,867 You had a choice not to commit fraud by lying to the court 460 00:17:55,934 --> 00:17:59,300 and telling them that something happened that was violent that didn't happen 461 00:17:59,367 --> 00:18:04,066 because the three of you were involved in this ever-crazier arrangement. 462 00:18:04,133 --> 00:18:07,667 So what I'm telling you is you're lucky you got a penny. 463 00:18:07,734 --> 00:18:08,900 We're done here now. 464 00:18:08,967 --> 00:18:10,467 - Okay. What about my... - We're done here now. 465 00:18:10,533 --> 00:18:11,367 Court is adjourned. 466 00:18:11,433 --> 00:18:12,734 Step this way, ma'am. 467 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,934 Well, I don't believe she should've been awarded anything 468 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,033 because I never stole her car, never, never bought a tool belt. 469 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:21,066 She stole that from me out of my truck. 470 00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:22,900 That's about him committing fraud on my account, 471 00:18:22,967 --> 00:18:25,467 stealing my car, kicking over my house, 472 00:18:25,533 --> 00:18:27,200 and just being a nuisance, really. 473 00:18:27,266 --> 00:18:29,533 As far as I know, she went out and purchased it, 474 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,200 and had something, you know, use it as evidence against me or whatever. 475 00:18:33,266 --> 00:18:36,266 But other than that, yeah, I think it's a lot better than $9,000. 476 00:18:36,333 --> 00:18:37,467 Of course he's gonna deny that. 477 00:18:37,533 --> 00:18:41,333 I never had a firearm, never pointed a gun to her head, never. 478 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,000 I don't know, I don't know guns, I don't know what kind of gun it was. 479 00:18:44,066 --> 00:18:45,367 You know, 'cause it was at my head 480 00:18:45,433 --> 00:18:47,734 and it was--it was at night and lights weren't on. 481 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,200 I mean, she said she left the next day. 482 00:18:50,266 --> 00:18:52,367 If I were to put a gun to her head, I thought I--you know, 483 00:18:52,433 --> 00:18:54,066 if that were me, I would've left immediately, 484 00:18:54,133 --> 00:18:55,867 you know, and press charges, right? 485 00:18:55,934 --> 00:18:58,433 I don't know. I don't know anything about a .22 486 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:00,734 or I don't know anything about guns. 487 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,600 Because she kept calling police to try to get them-- 488 00:19:03,667 --> 00:19:05,467 to get me out of the house when, you know, 489 00:19:05,533 --> 00:19:07,367 I have my rights and stuff, so they couldn't do it, so... 490 00:19:07,433 --> 00:19:09,700 And, you know, I mean, it--I'm just glad he's gone. 491 00:19:09,767 --> 00:19:11,233 Uh, judge saw right through her. 492 00:19:11,300 --> 00:19:13,433 It's time to protect myself and I got a bad picker. 493 00:19:14,433 --> 00:19:16,433 [Judge Judy] That case was exhausting. 494 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:19,667 I could tell you were confused from start to finish. 495 00:19:19,734 --> 00:19:21,934 It was just so convoluted and... 496 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,567 - They know what happened. - Uh-hmm. 497 00:19:23,633 --> 00:19:25,600 But because it's so bizarre. 498 00:19:25,667 --> 00:19:27,033 They tried to tell another story. 499 00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:32,300 It was so confusing when I in fact read the complaint 500 00:19:32,367 --> 00:19:36,233 and the answer, and so inconsistent with what they were telling me. 501 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:37,333 Almost every line. 502 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,467 Almost every line. 503 00:19:38,533 --> 00:19:39,467 [Judge Judy] Almost every line. 504 00:19:39,533 --> 00:19:42,767 And, you know, you get to a point where both parties 505 00:19:42,834 --> 00:19:46,100 are trying to obfuscate the truth 506 00:19:46,166 --> 00:19:48,333 that you actually lose interest. 507 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,000 The primary thing that actually irritate 508 00:19:52,066 --> 00:19:56,767 and has always irritated me is when you abuse the court system 509 00:19:56,834 --> 00:19:58,367 - to get something done. - Uh-hmm. 510 00:19:58,433 --> 00:20:01,967 [Judge Judy] To get it done illegally in order to expedite it. 511 00:20:02,033 --> 00:20:06,133 You're willing to sign a document that says, "I've been duly sworn, depose, 512 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,200 and says he put a gun to my head, etcetera." 513 00:20:09,266 --> 00:20:11,100 Somebody looks at that and say, "Oh, my goodness. 514 00:20:11,166 --> 00:20:13,066 We're gonna put you out of the house. 515 00:20:13,133 --> 00:20:16,033 We're going to prevent you from seeing your children." 516 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:19,500 When it's used a mechanism rather than the truth, 517 00:20:19,567 --> 00:20:21,100 so she is very lucky... 518 00:20:21,166 --> 00:20:22,033 [Sarah] Yeah. 519 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:23,767 ...that she got any money. 520 00:20:23,834 --> 00:20:27,233 That and when they try and use that same court to their benefit, 521 00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:29,333 the same court that they had just scammed to get their way. 522 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,000 - Right, right. - [Sarah] Yeah. 523 00:20:32,667 --> 00:20:33,834 [announcer] Want justice? 524 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:36,400 Go to JudyJustice.tv. 525 00:20:41,066 --> 00:20:44,066 [theme music playing]