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[Judge Judy] You tried to have him removed
from the property?

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That's correct.

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[Judge Judy] It says, "I woke up
and there was a random girl

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in my house at 2:00 in the morning.

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So I told her to leave."

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Right.

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"He put a gun to my head and said,

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'Don't tell ever tell me
who I can have over.'"

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[announcer] This is Judy Justice.

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[theme music playing]

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[announcer] Marinda Conway
is suing her former friend,

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Joseph Ethier for impound fees,
personal property,

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and fraudulent debit card charges.

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[Kevin] Court come to order. All rise.

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Have a seat, everybody.

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[Kevin] Hello, Judge.

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Case number 1128, Conway versus Ethier.

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- Thank you.
- You're welcome.

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[Judge Judy] I want you
all to know I woke up

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in a very good mood today.

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And this case is very confusing
so I'm going to try

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to simplify it.

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I've examined the complaint
and I've examined the answer

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and it seems to me that there are really
just two parts of this case.

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One, Ms. Conway, you think that Mr. Ethier

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owes you for some personal property

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that he took that belonged
to you--actually, three parts.

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He owes you money
for impound fees for a car

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that you alleged that he took
without your permission,

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resulting in it becoming impounded,

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and then you claim
he used a credit card of yours.

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Debit card.

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[Judge Judy] Without your permission.

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And while the bank initially
reversed those charges,

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they subsequently put back those charges
on your account.

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The story that goes behind this

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is very, very confusing to me.

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And I am not easily confused.

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So I wanna find out
a little something about you.

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- Okay.
- [Judge Judy] And you, Mr. Ethier.

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First of all, Ms. Conway,
what do you do for a living?

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- I'm a personal assistant.
- [Judge Judy] And you, sir?

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I'm a construction superintendent.

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[Judge Judy] And you know each other
for a long time?

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About four years, yeah.

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[Judge Judy] How do you know each other?

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[Marinda] We initially met in Modesto.

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I needed some electrical work at a store

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that I had out in Modesto
and that's how we initially met.

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And then I knew him
for like maybe a year or two then,

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and then I didn't see him for two years
until March of this year.

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Now over the course of the four years,

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did you and Mr. Ethier have any sort
of social relationship?

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- No. Uh-uh.
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

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Now Mr. Ethier, you seem to say that
that's otherwise?

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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

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Well, let me hear the otherwise.

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[Joseph] Okay. We met, like she said,
about four, five years ago.

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We started associating
with each other again sometime last year,

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and she needed somebody to go pick up
a motorcycle from her in, in Reno, Nevada,

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so we got together
and she took me out there

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and I brought her motorcycle back.

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We started hanging out, me and my other...

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[Judge Judy] Oh, no, no.
Don't give me the whole story.

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- Okay. Uh-hmm.
- I'm not--I'm setting the table

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for the story which is a little crazy
to me when I read it.

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What I asked you is simple.

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The plaintiff says
that you didn't have a social,

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when I say social, I'm talking about

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- an intimate relationship.
- [Joseph] Yeah, no, we didn't.

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- No.
- [Judge Judy] Never had

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an intimate relationship.

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- No.
- Okay.

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I ask you that question, Mr. Ethier

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because when I read your answer...

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- Yeah.
- [Judge Judy] ...in this case--

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you know what you wrote in your answer?

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[Joseph] Yeah, yeah, I do.

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[Judge Judy] So is that incorrect?

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No, that is correct.

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[Judge Judy] You said,
"I met Miranda five years ago.

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We never really dated,
but became friends with benefits."

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Well, even I at my age
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because I have children and grandchildren

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who have explained that to me.

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It doesn't mean that you get coupons.

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I apologize. I thought you were referring

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to before March of this year,

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if we had an intimate relationship
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Did you have an intimate relationship

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- after March of this year?
- Yeah. Yes.

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[Judge Judy] You did? Okay.

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So, before March of this year

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- you were just friends?
- [Joseph] Yes.

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[Judge Judy] After March of this year,

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you had a more social relationship.

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- That'd be a fair statement?
- Yes.

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- [Judge Judy] Okay.
- [Joseph] Yes.

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[Judge Judy] Now we've got that settled.

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- This is your sister.
- Yes.

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[Judge Judy] It is your claim
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you moved into a house
that was owned by your sister,

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that she was going to rent to you,

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- is that correct?
- That's correct.

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[Judge Judy] In what month was that?

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- [Marinda] March.
- March of 2021?

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Correct.

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[Judge Judy]
Did you sign a lease with her?

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I did.

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[Judge Judy] I'd like to see it.

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So far, I'm still in a good mood.

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[Marinda] Here you go.

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I printed it off my email-- I had her send
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so I print it--that's why it's like short.

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That's the lease though.

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I wanna see the lease.

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Not something that you copied.

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That's the lease,
I just--I had to print it off of an email.

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I want to see it.

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I--it was--I left it in the house
and taken by him.

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[Judge Judy] Then--just a second.

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Then if she emailed it to you,
she would have it in her emails.

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Do you have it in your emails
from March of 2021?

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- I just...
- That is either a yes or a no.

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I emailed it to her in October.

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It was a copy of the original.

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- Then the answer is no.
- [Shani] Okay.

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[Judge Judy] That becomes important.

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Do you understand? So this is nonsense.

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Take it back.

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Oh, I have it, from March of 2021 in my...

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[Judge Judy] Then I would like to see it,
from March of 2021.

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[Marinda] Okay. Hold on one second.

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[Joseph] Your Honor,
if I may say something?

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- [Judge Judy] No.
- [Joseph] No, okay.

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Don't say anything. Don't say anything.

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I'm still working on my good mood.

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Ms. Conway, we are supposed to have that

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- when we get here.
- I know.

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I thought that this was gonna be...

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- You thought?
- [Marinda] Right.

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No, that doesn't tell me anything

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when the issue is,
who had a lease to live there,

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then you don't show me a copy

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that was printed out October 9th.

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This one, that she sent over was May 15th.

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[Judge Judy] So the answer
is you don't have it in March.

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And she doesn't have it in March.

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[Marinda] The original,
I left in the house.

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[Judge Judy] Who cares?

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- Then it doesn't exist.
- Okay.

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If you left it in your house,

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if you left it in a birdcage,

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if you left it in your refrigerator,

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if you don't have it here in court,
it doesn't exist.

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And you know when you came here,
being an intelligent woman...

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- [Marinda] Uh-hmm.
- ...you don't leave the one

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critical piece of evidence
in your refrigerator at home.

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You bring it to court.

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I couldn't, because he took it.

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You just told me
your sister emailed it to you,

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- the original in March.
- [Marinda] Uh-hmm.

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[Judge Judy] Then you would have it
in saved emails.

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Listen, I'm an idiot on the machine,

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but even I know that I can go back

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to the search line
and I say my sister's name,

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and under her name comes up
what she sent to me

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in March of 2021.

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We're not talking about the year
of the flood.

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We're still talking about this year.

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- Right.
- [Judge Judy] So, if you don't have it,

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it doesn't exist.

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Now, do you have a lease?

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We had a verbal agreement, yes.

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So the answer is you do not have
a written lease.

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No, just a verbal agreement.

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[Judge Judy] In what month did you move

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- into sister's premises?
- February.

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Were you there
before Ms. Conway got there?

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Ms. Conway, no. She was there before me.

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Okay. So she was there before February?

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[Joseph] Yes, but she moved out.

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She lived there a long time
before I got there.

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She had moved to Dunsmuir,
had a residence up there.

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Her sister rented the place to me,
I had moved in there,

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she sold her place
after I moved in and then...

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[Judge Judy] Who sold the place?

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- The sister?
- [Joseph] Marinda.

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She sold her place in Dunsmuir
where she was living.

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- [Judge Judy] Oh, the plaintiff?
- [Joseph] Yes.

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Okay. So let me understand
what you're trying to tell me.

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Okay.

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There's nothing there about your sister.

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Don't say anything
that's gonna make you look stupid

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because I'm a pro at that.

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That's my strong suit.

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[theme music playing]

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[announcer] Marinda Conway
is suing her former friend,

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Joseph Ethier, for impound fees,

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personal property,
and fraudulent debit card charges.

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[Judge Judy] Now, before you moved in

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- in February...
- [Joseph] Yes.

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[Judge Judy] ...she had been living there

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- for a while but then moved?
- Right.

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[Judge Judy] So when you got there
in February,

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- was she or was she not...
- No, she...

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[Judge Judy] ...physically there?

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- No, she was not.
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

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And when you got there in February,

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you had an agreement

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with the sister who owned the property.

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- Yes.
- Stand.

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Move over there.

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- Last name.
- Simpson.

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How do you know Ms. Simpson?

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Through her sister Marinda.

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[Judge Judy] When did you have
a discussion with her

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about renting the property?

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End of January.

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[Judge Judy] How many houses
are on the property?

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[Joseph] There's a guest house in the back

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and then a main house in the front.

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Did you have an agreement with her

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with regard to the guest house
or the main house?

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- [Joseph] The main house.
- [Judge Judy] For how much?

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1,200 a month, Your Honor.

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- Did you pay her any money?
- [Joseph] Yes, I did.

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[Judge Judy] When for the first time

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did you pay her any money?

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- February.
- And you paid her $1,200?

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- [Joseph] Yes.
- Show me.

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I have text messages here.

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[Judge Judy] Did you pay her
in cash or check?

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[Joseph] I paid her in cash.

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But there's a sketch, you know, those...

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[Judge Judy] Shh.

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- Well, this is in May.
- [Joseph] Uh-hmm.

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- I wanna see February.
- [Joseph] Okay.

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February, I don't have any
records of that.

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There may--if you go to the beginning,

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they may be in there. I do...

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[Judge Judy] Well,
I see that you, Ms. Simpson,

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accepted $1,200 from him in May.

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That's a--would be a yes.

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Um, it was her rent money.

246
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[Judge Judy] No, no, no, no, no,
that would be a yes.

247
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- You accepted from him.
- No.

248
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- [Judge Judy] Oh, really?
- No.

249
00:09:56,133 --> 00:10:00,567
[Judge Judy] No, you say,
so you did give me $1,200.

250
00:10:00,633 --> 00:10:01,700
It was her rent money.

251
00:10:01,767 --> 00:10:02,700
[Judge Judy] So--just a second.

252
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That he delivered to me.

253
00:10:03,900 --> 00:10:07,500
[Judge Judy] Just a--so you're supposed
to pay $1,200.

254
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This is you.

255
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And I believe that you did pay $1,200.

256
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Not my sister, not my somebody else.

257
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"So, you're supposed to pay $1,200

258
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and I believe that you did pay $1,200

259
00:10:21,233 --> 00:10:23,667
because that's what I just deposited."

260
00:10:23,734 --> 00:10:25,600
There's nothing there about your sister.

261
00:10:25,667 --> 00:10:28,633
Don't, don't say anything
that's gonna make you look stupid

262
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because I'm a pro at that.

263
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That's my strong suit.

264
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- [Shani] He was delivering...
- "Yes, you are correct.

265
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I gave you $1,200 on the dot.

266
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Counted it twice to make absolutely sure."

267
00:10:42,433 --> 00:10:44,066
"Are you getting my texts?"

268
00:10:44,133 --> 00:10:46,967
"Yes, but I'm at work now."
"Sorry to bother you,"

269
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says he, "Can you by chance give me

270
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the storage info
so I can make the payment?"

271
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"Thank you." Shani, that's you.

272
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- Shani.
- [Judge Judy] Shani,

273
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that's still you.

274
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This is in July.

275
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He paid your rent of $1,200 a month.

276
00:11:03,633 --> 00:11:06,033
Then, at some point,

277
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sister wanted back into the house,

278
00:11:09,133 --> 00:11:10,266
and you let her in?

279
00:11:10,333 --> 00:11:12,433
- Yes.
- [Judge Judy] And began

280
00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:14,000
friends with benefits?

281
00:11:14,066 --> 00:11:15,734
- Yes.
- We were...

282
00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,166
[Judge Judy] Uh, just a second.

283
00:11:17,233 --> 00:11:18,633
Now, I'm getting the picture.

284
00:11:18,700 --> 00:11:20,100
[Marinda] We were friends with benefits...

285
00:11:20,166 --> 00:11:23,367
Shani, "I didn't do a thing wrong to her,"

286
00:11:23,433 --> 00:11:26,166
so says he, "to you or anybody else.

287
00:11:26,233 --> 00:11:29,166
She decides to rip me off for no reason.

288
00:11:29,233 --> 00:11:30,867
No reason whatsoever.

289
00:11:30,934 --> 00:11:32,967
She had no right to steal from me.

290
00:11:33,033 --> 00:11:35,433
And I have every right to protect myself

291
00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:38,467
from entities that are out
to do me wrong or harm.

292
00:11:38,533 --> 00:11:41,834
You and I had an agreement
on renting the house,

293
00:11:41,900 --> 00:11:43,533
not the three of us.

294
00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,600
You must understand
that she pushed her way in,

295
00:11:46,667 --> 00:11:49,066
and I made the mistake of letting her in.

296
00:11:49,133 --> 00:11:50,300
But she moved out.

297
00:11:50,367 --> 00:11:52,567
I had caught her stealing my ring,

298
00:11:52,633 --> 00:11:56,200
and my coins, and other things,
which she did return

299
00:11:56,266 --> 00:11:57,533
when I asked her to.

300
00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,734
Her reason was because she thought

301
00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,200
I was mad at her.

302
00:12:01,266 --> 00:12:03,033
Now, I don't know what she's doing

303
00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:04,266
and why she's doing it.

304
00:12:04,333 --> 00:12:08,100
The only thing I can come up with
is because of that seat."

305
00:12:08,166 --> 00:12:09,467
- [Joseph] Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] And I read

306
00:12:09,533 --> 00:12:10,967
something about the seat.

307
00:12:11,033 --> 00:12:12,800
And that's a motorcycle seat

308
00:12:12,867 --> 00:12:14,667
that she said she could have fixed,

309
00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:16,600
and when you went and it had it fixed,

310
00:12:16,667 --> 00:12:19,934
it cost $700 and the seat
was supposed to be free,

311
00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,333
so, you say, "So how do you think

312
00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,233
I reacted when I was told it was $700.

313
00:12:24,300 --> 00:12:26,834
I asked her to go back and talk to her dad

314
00:12:26,900 --> 00:12:30,433
because I wasn't going to pay
$700 for something

315
00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:32,433
that costs $400 brand-new.

316
00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:35,333
So, she got mad when I told her
she needed to talk to him.

317
00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,133
Now, I'm stuck paying $700 with something

318
00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,800
that isn't worth $700 and I was mad.

319
00:12:40,867 --> 00:12:44,767
Felt that she can take my stuff,
which is more valuable than $700,

320
00:12:44,834 --> 00:12:47,667
and hold it for collateral in a deal

321
00:12:47,734 --> 00:12:51,934
that made me and your uncle
come to terms, which I honored."

322
00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,400
Is the uncle the one who fixed?

323
00:12:53,467 --> 00:12:55,066
Apparently, her uncle, her father, yes.

324
00:12:55,133 --> 00:12:56,066
[Judge Judy] Oh, okay.

325
00:12:56,133 --> 00:13:00,333
"I have her on camera along with you
as well going through the house,

326
00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,767
hers taking my belongings to me

327
00:13:02,834 --> 00:13:04,967
and you trying to get in my bedroom.

328
00:13:05,033 --> 00:13:06,567
I have it on video.

329
00:13:06,633 --> 00:13:08,834
So, I have no reason to lie about that.

330
00:13:08,900 --> 00:13:11,500
Nobody has any right to go
into my bedroom,

331
00:13:11,567 --> 00:13:14,100
my personal space,
and taking anything from me.

332
00:13:14,166 --> 00:13:15,600
I ain't tripping."

333
00:13:15,667 --> 00:13:16,800
What does that mean?

334
00:13:16,867 --> 00:13:19,467
Uh, it says I'm--uh, I was letting it go.

335
00:13:19,533 --> 00:13:20,867
[Judge Judy] "But that just ain't right

336
00:13:20,934 --> 00:13:22,867
and my privacy was violated.

337
00:13:22,934 --> 00:13:27,200
Now, you as a landlord
is inhibiting her harassment,

338
00:13:27,266 --> 00:13:29,266
isn't that what you mean
by bringing her there.

339
00:13:29,333 --> 00:13:32,667
I have my rights
and I have my right to privacy."

340
00:13:32,734 --> 00:13:35,734
Okay. But this ends up with this,

341
00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,266
this long text message to her?

342
00:13:38,333 --> 00:13:40,133
It says that she wasn't there?

343
00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,700
You took her things
and, "She can get her things

344
00:13:42,767 --> 00:13:44,800
when she makes things right with me"?

345
00:13:44,867 --> 00:13:46,066
- Right.
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

346
00:13:46,133 --> 00:13:49,467
And then, you say, "You need to call me.

347
00:13:49,533 --> 00:13:52,333
I tried to call what's up?" You say,

348
00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,300
"My in-laws want to put their trailer
in my backyard today.

349
00:13:56,367 --> 00:13:59,567
I need the gate unlocked
and your trucks out of the way,

350
00:13:59,633 --> 00:14:01,767
and the wood stacked against the cottage.

351
00:14:01,834 --> 00:14:04,600
My in-laws need to get in the back.

352
00:14:04,667 --> 00:14:05,734
Please call me.

353
00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,166
I have been texting and calling
since 7:45 this morning."

354
00:14:09,233 --> 00:14:12,500
And he responds at 11:20,

355
00:14:12,567 --> 00:14:15,166
"I told you where the key was, sorry."

356
00:14:15,233 --> 00:14:18,066
"Do not be immature
and hang up on me," says you.

357
00:14:18,133 --> 00:14:20,900
"Since you won't listen,
I'm going to hang up on you.

358
00:14:20,967 --> 00:14:23,100
Your sister started this blank.

359
00:14:23,166 --> 00:14:26,467
Not me. I'm not the one
that decided to blank me over

360
00:14:26,533 --> 00:14:28,133
for no reason, she is,

361
00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,433
and you said you're not getting
in the middle of things

362
00:14:30,500 --> 00:14:33,800
but you really are, and now I'm the one
who's paying for it.

363
00:14:33,867 --> 00:14:35,934
I'm just not going to let it happen.

364
00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,900
I didn't do nothing to nobody.

365
00:14:37,967 --> 00:14:40,800
The only way I'm going to do what you ask

366
00:14:40,867 --> 00:14:43,200
is if your sister gives me back my stuff."

367
00:14:43,266 --> 00:14:45,867
Okay. I could probably read this.

368
00:14:45,934 --> 00:14:47,800
It sounds more like a novel.

369
00:14:50,066 --> 00:14:52,400
Don't speak at all,

370
00:14:52,467 --> 00:14:54,433
'cause it's all coming together.

371
00:14:54,500 --> 00:14:56,600
- Uh-hmm.
- It's not what is presented

372
00:14:56,667 --> 00:14:58,767
in the complaint and the answer.

373
00:14:58,834 --> 00:14:59,734
The complaint is about...

374
00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,133
[Judge Judy] Don't, don't speak.

375
00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,600
I was in a good mood.
I'm getting in a better mood.

376
00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:11,400
[theme music playing]

377
00:15:15,433 --> 00:15:18,567
[announcer] Marinda Conway
claims her former friend,

378
00:15:18,633 --> 00:15:21,600
Joseph Ethier, owes for impound fees,

379
00:15:21,667 --> 00:15:25,233
personal property,
and fraudulent debit card charges.

380
00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:28,633
[Judge Judy] Now, Ms. Simpson,
I wanna tell you what I know

381
00:15:28,700 --> 00:15:31,367
and I don't want you to try
if you're smart,

382
00:15:31,433 --> 00:15:34,900
because I assume that if you have in-laws,

383
00:15:34,967 --> 00:15:37,033
right, you say you have in laws?

384
00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:38,834
- That's a yes!
- Yes.

385
00:15:38,900 --> 00:15:41,633
So, I assume if you have in-laws,
you also have a husband?

386
00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:43,567
It's actually my son's in-laws.

387
00:15:43,633 --> 00:15:44,633
[Judge Judy] So you have children?

388
00:15:44,700 --> 00:15:45,934
- [Shani] I do.
- [Judge Judy] And you don't

389
00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,734
wanna look foolish
in front of your children.

390
00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,500
So, I want you to understand this.

391
00:15:49,567 --> 00:15:52,600
I know that you rented the house to him.

392
00:15:52,667 --> 00:15:55,767
And I know that you did not rent the house

393
00:15:55,834 --> 00:15:57,800
- in March to your sister.
- I did.

394
00:15:57,867 --> 00:15:59,367
I know that you did not

395
00:15:59,433 --> 00:16:02,333
because you nor your sister have a lease

396
00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,867
to show me in March.

397
00:16:03,934 --> 00:16:04,867
- Well, I know what...
- I have...

398
00:16:04,934 --> 00:16:07,467
...I have in my bank statement
that I gave her the $3,000.

399
00:16:07,533 --> 00:16:08,667
[Judge Judy] Just, just, just a second.

400
00:16:08,734 --> 00:16:12,000
What I'm telling you is,
I know that you...

401
00:16:12,066 --> 00:16:13,467
- Well, you're [indistinct]
- [Judge Judy] ...had an agreement

402
00:16:13,533 --> 00:16:14,700
with him.

403
00:16:14,767 --> 00:16:16,166
- [Shani] No, I didn't.
- [Judge Judy] Uh, well,

404
00:16:16,233 --> 00:16:18,967
I'm telling you, Ms. Simpson,
I don't believe it.

405
00:16:19,033 --> 00:16:20,200
It's the truth.

406
00:16:20,266 --> 00:16:22,066
[Judge Judy] I don't--nope, not the truth.

407
00:16:22,133 --> 00:16:23,400
- It's a big fib.
- It is. No, it's not.

408
00:16:23,467 --> 00:16:25,533
It's a big fib. Then, then in May...

409
00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:26,767
[Shani] The house
was rented to her in March.

410
00:16:26,834 --> 00:16:29,433
[Judge Judy] Just a second.
He was living there in February.

411
00:16:29,500 --> 00:16:31,667
- No, he wasn't.
- [Judge Judy] No, don't speak.

412
00:16:31,734 --> 00:16:34,100
Don't speak.
He was living there in February.

413
00:16:34,165 --> 00:16:35,600
- No, he was not.
- [Judge Judy] Really?

414
00:16:35,667 --> 00:16:37,867
In what month did he come?

415
00:16:37,934 --> 00:16:39,700
He came around March when she moved in.

416
00:16:39,767 --> 00:16:40,900
[Judge Judy] Oh, just a second.

417
00:16:40,967 --> 00:16:42,200
And they were--
they were having a relationship.

418
00:16:42,266 --> 00:16:44,433
Just a second. So he came in March?

419
00:16:44,500 --> 00:16:45,533
- [Shani] Yeah.
- [Judge Judy] He came

420
00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,000
at the same time your sister did?

421
00:16:47,066 --> 00:16:48,200
[Shani] Yeah, they, they were together.

422
00:16:48,266 --> 00:16:49,667
[Judge Judy] Just don't--just a second.

423
00:16:49,734 --> 00:16:51,000
So they were a couple, is what...

424
00:16:51,066 --> 00:16:52,533
They started to see each other.

425
00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,934
- [Judge Judy] No. No, no, no...
- I--I'm--I'm not there

426
00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,033
- with them all the time.
- [Judge Judy] No, Ms. Simpson,

427
00:16:55,100 --> 00:16:57,165
Ms. Simpson, what I want to know is,

428
00:16:57,233 --> 00:16:59,200
is it your understanding

429
00:16:59,266 --> 00:17:02,066
that you rented the house to your sister,

430
00:17:02,133 --> 00:17:05,500
and that the defendant moved in with her,

431
00:17:05,567 --> 00:17:08,000
or that they moved in at the same time?

432
00:17:08,066 --> 00:17:09,633
Do not answer.

433
00:17:09,700 --> 00:17:12,099
What is your impression?

434
00:17:12,165 --> 00:17:15,300
[Shani] I rented the place to my sister.

435
00:17:15,367 --> 00:17:18,200
And then, he came around after that.

436
00:17:18,266 --> 00:17:19,200
- [Judge Judy] He came...
- [Shani] And they,

437
00:17:19,266 --> 00:17:21,133
they started some kind of relationship.

438
00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,032
[Judge Judy] Just a second.
So, they were both there in March?

439
00:17:24,099 --> 00:17:25,599
- Yes.
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

440
00:17:25,666 --> 00:17:27,032
And did you visit them?

441
00:17:27,099 --> 00:17:28,433
- On and off.
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

442
00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:32,367
And when you visited them,
where did you go in the house?

443
00:17:32,433 --> 00:17:33,667
I went into my house.

444
00:17:33,734 --> 00:17:34,567
[Judge Judy] No, just a second.

445
00:17:34,633 --> 00:17:36,567
You went into a house
that you were renting,

446
00:17:36,633 --> 00:17:38,200
according to you to your sister.

447
00:17:38,266 --> 00:17:39,834
- [Shani] To my sister.
- [Judge Judy] And where

448
00:17:39,900 --> 00:17:41,367
in the house did you go, the living room,

449
00:17:41,433 --> 00:17:42,967
- the kitchen, the bedroom...
- Everywhere.

450
00:17:43,033 --> 00:17:44,066
[Judge Judy] ...where did you go?

451
00:17:44,133 --> 00:17:45,033
- Everywhere?
- [Shani] The bathroom,

452
00:17:45,100 --> 00:17:46,433
- the kitchen...
- Everywhere.

453
00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:48,233
- [Shani] I took a shower there.
- And they were both there?

454
00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:49,867
I did my laundry there, cooked food there.

455
00:17:49,934 --> 00:17:51,000
[Judge Judy] Just a second. You did?

456
00:17:51,066 --> 00:17:52,233
- [Shani] Yes.
- [Judge Judy] Well, just a second.

457
00:17:52,300 --> 00:17:54,233
Why would you do all of that

458
00:17:54,300 --> 00:17:56,200
when you had rented it to your sister?

459
00:17:56,266 --> 00:17:57,467
- Because we're sisters.
- Because we're...

460
00:17:57,533 --> 00:17:59,834
[Judge Judy] No, no!
I don't want you to say a word.

461
00:17:59,900 --> 00:18:01,567
I don't want you to say a word.

462
00:18:01,633 --> 00:18:04,166
Where do you and your children live?

463
00:18:04,233 --> 00:18:06,200
My children do not live with me,
and there is also...

464
00:18:06,266 --> 00:18:07,200
[Judge Judy] Who--just a second.

465
00:18:07,266 --> 00:18:08,533
Who do you live with?

466
00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,633
I live on that same property with the...

467
00:18:11,700 --> 00:18:12,867
[Judge Judy] Just, just a second.

468
00:18:12,934 --> 00:18:14,867
You live on the same property.

469
00:18:14,934 --> 00:18:16,867
There are two structures on the property.

470
00:18:16,934 --> 00:18:19,133
- Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] There is a main house--

471
00:18:20,033 --> 00:18:21,000
I was in a good mood.

472
00:18:21,066 --> 00:18:22,166
I'm getting in a better mood. (chuckles)

473
00:18:24,133 --> 00:18:26,667
There is a guest house and a main house?

474
00:18:26,734 --> 00:18:27,934
- [Shani] Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] Uh-huh,

475
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,433
- is not an answer.
- Yes.

476
00:18:29,500 --> 00:18:32,200
[Judge Judy] And so,
I assume when you say

477
00:18:32,266 --> 00:18:33,600
you went into the house,

478
00:18:33,667 --> 00:18:36,233
- you were living in the guest house.
- But I had...

479
00:18:36,300 --> 00:18:37,333
[Judge Judy]
No, don't, don't go like this.

480
00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,867
- We're not talking...
- [Shani] I have access

481
00:18:38,934 --> 00:18:40,033
to the main house, too.

482
00:18:40,100 --> 00:18:41,133
[Judge Judy] No, that's not what--

483
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,900
listen to me, that's not my question.

484
00:18:43,967 --> 00:18:45,333
You may have had access.

485
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,600
Whoever you rented the house to
may have given you access

486
00:18:48,667 --> 00:18:50,533
because you all knew each other.

487
00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,800
Were you living in the guest house?

488
00:18:52,867 --> 00:18:53,967
That's what you just told me.

489
00:18:54,033 --> 00:18:55,233
She's gonna read it back.

490
00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:57,000
You said, "I was living on the property."

491
00:18:57,066 --> 00:18:59,166
There were only two structures
on the property.

492
00:18:59,233 --> 00:19:01,300
The guesthouse and the main.
So, just answer the question.

493
00:19:01,367 --> 00:19:02,266
Guesthouse, yes.

494
00:19:02,333 --> 00:19:04,300
That's makes it easier, right?

495
00:19:04,367 --> 00:19:05,200
- [Marinda] My [indistinct]
- [Judge Judy] Well, then--

496
00:19:05,266 --> 00:19:07,533
uh, don't speak at all,

497
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,600
'cause it's all coming together.

498
00:19:09,667 --> 00:19:10,834
Do you understand?

499
00:19:10,900 --> 00:19:14,633
It's not what is presented
in the complaint and the answer.

500
00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:15,834
The complaint is about...

501
00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:17,000
[Judge Judy] Don't, don't, don't speak.

502
00:19:17,066 --> 00:19:18,133
Okay.

503
00:19:20,967 --> 00:19:24,266
[Judge Judy] This is the way
your complaint opens, Ms. Conway.

504
00:19:24,333 --> 00:19:28,967
In April of 2021, my sister, wanted Joseph

505
00:19:29,033 --> 00:19:30,533
to build a shed for her.

506
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,967
She had a main house in a cottage,

507
00:19:33,033 --> 00:19:36,033
so while he did the work, she let Joseph

508
00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:38,500
stay in the cottage free of charge,

509
00:19:38,567 --> 00:19:41,100
around the same time in April.

510
00:19:41,166 --> 00:19:42,700
- That's what you swore to.
- [Marinda] Uh-hmm.

511
00:19:42,767 --> 00:19:45,166
[Judge Judy] I made an agreement
with my sister

512
00:19:45,233 --> 00:19:48,133
to rent the main house in June!

513
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,400
- Now...
- [man] [indistinct]

514
00:19:49,467 --> 00:19:51,700
[Judge Judy] ...both of you
have acknowledged,

515
00:19:51,767 --> 00:19:55,367
as well as sister
that when--according to you,

516
00:19:55,433 --> 00:19:59,166
he moved in in March,
they started to have,

517
00:19:59,233 --> 00:20:01,033
according to you and according to them,

518
00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:03,900
an intimate relationship,
and they were living together

519
00:20:03,967 --> 00:20:05,734
in March in the main house,

520
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,633
that's what you just told me, right?

521
00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:08,734
- [Shani] Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] She can read--

522
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,700
- uh-huh is not an answer.
- Yes. Yes.

523
00:20:10,767 --> 00:20:12,433
[Judge Judy]
So, all of this is kinda wrong,

524
00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:13,767
- you understand that?
- [Shani] Yes.

525
00:20:13,834 --> 00:20:15,166
Okey-dokey. Good.

526
00:20:15,233 --> 00:20:18,667
I woke up and there
was a random girl in my house

527
00:20:18,734 --> 00:20:20,667
at 2:00 in the morning.

528
00:20:20,734 --> 00:20:23,200
I found out she was a friend of Joseph's,

529
00:20:23,266 --> 00:20:24,834
so I told her to leave.

530
00:20:24,900 --> 00:20:26,333
Do you know anything about nothing at all?

531
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,133
- Nothing at all.
- [Judge Judy] Just a second.

532
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,900
At 4:00 AM, Joseph came into my room.

533
00:20:31,967 --> 00:20:34,033
But you were having
an intimate relationship within March,

534
00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:35,033
- April, May...
- [Marinda] I [indistinct]

535
00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:36,333
in the room because I was still mad

536
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:37,633
about this girl being in there
with her nine loads

537
00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:39,133
- of laundry and...
- [Judge Judy] Just a second.

538
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,300
- ...not knowing what she wants.
- [Judge Judy] Just a second.

539
00:20:40,367 --> 00:20:43,867
He put a gun to my head
and said don't ever tell me

540
00:20:43,934 --> 00:20:45,400
who I can have over.

541
00:20:45,467 --> 00:20:49,467
I became uncomfortable living there
while Joseph was in the cottage.

542
00:20:49,533 --> 00:20:51,266
Well, that is a bunch of baloney.

543
00:20:51,333 --> 00:20:52,433
- He wasn't in the cottage.
- [Judge Judy] She was--

544
00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:53,734
of course he wasn't in the cottage

545
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,467
but that's what you say in the complaint.

546
00:20:55,533 --> 00:20:57,533
That's what you say in your complaint.

547
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:58,834
- He wasn't in the cottage.
- [Judge Judy] I became

548
00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:00,900
uncomfortable living there,

549
00:21:00,967 --> 00:21:03,934
'cause this is this whole story
you made up with your sister.

550
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,333
Because you did try
to get a restraining order

551
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,266
- against him.
- Correct.

552
00:21:07,333 --> 00:21:08,233
[Judge Judy] Just a second.

553
00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:09,734
You did go to court to try

554
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,233
to get a restraining order against him.

555
00:21:12,300 --> 00:21:14,967
Now, did you try to
get him off the property

556
00:21:15,033 --> 00:21:18,667
before or after your sister went to court

557
00:21:18,734 --> 00:21:20,967
to try to get a restraining order
against him?

558
00:21:21,033 --> 00:21:23,333
Did I try to get him removed
from the property...

559
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,300
- [Judge Judy] Yes.
- ...before?

560
00:21:24,367 --> 00:21:25,533
- Yes.
- [Judge Judy] Yes.

561
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,800
You tried to get him removed
from the property

562
00:21:27,867 --> 00:21:31,233
before your sister and the police...

563
00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:32,433
- [Shani] Yes.
- [Judge Judy] ...refused

564
00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:33,734
to put them off the property.

565
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,433
- That's a yes.
- [Shani] Yes.

566
00:21:36,500 --> 00:21:39,233
(chuckles) Now, you see it's all coming
together?

567
00:21:39,300 --> 00:21:41,100
[announcer] To be continued.

568
00:21:42,867 --> 00:21:44,133
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569
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,300
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570
00:21:51,166 --> 00:21:54,166
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