1 00:00:00,266 --> 00:00:03,367 There was an argument that was on Bourbon Street. 2 00:00:03,433 --> 00:00:05,633 He was yelling at me in front of everyone. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,533 You left him downtown and went back to the hotel. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,266 He then left you at the hotel 5 00:00:12,333 --> 00:00:14,367 - and went back to Texas. - That is correct. 6 00:00:15,500 --> 00:00:17,567 I've learned to avoid long road trips. 7 00:00:18,100 --> 00:00:20,000 Trust me, I know. 8 00:00:20,066 --> 00:00:22,033 [Announcer] This is Judy Justice. 9 00:00:22,100 --> 00:00:25,100 [theme music playing] 10 00:00:39,567 --> 00:00:43,967 [announcer] Kyana Guidry is suing her ex- boyfriend, Tavon Hughes, 11 00:00:44,033 --> 00:00:46,467 for a car down payment, travel cost, 12 00:00:46,533 --> 00:00:48,200 and the value of her belongings. 13 00:00:48,266 --> 00:00:49,400 [Kevin] Court come to order. 14 00:00:51,700 --> 00:00:52,633 Be seated, please. 15 00:00:54,467 --> 00:00:55,734 Good morning, Judge. 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,700 Case number 1103, Guidry versus Hughes. 17 00:00:58,767 --> 00:01:00,200 - [Judge Judy] Thank you. - [Kevin] You're welcome. 18 00:01:00,266 --> 00:01:02,333 [Judge Judy] Well, Ms. Guidry, I have several questions for you. 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,766 - How old are you? - Twenty-eight years old. 20 00:01:04,834 --> 00:01:08,033 - What kind of work do you do? - [Kyana] I have a small online business, 21 00:01:08,100 --> 00:01:10,400 but I'm not currently employed right now. 22 00:01:10,467 --> 00:01:12,533 [Judge Judy] What is the nature of this online business? 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,533 - [Kyana] Cosmetics. - [Judge Judy] You make any money at it? 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,734 A little bit, I mean, I'm--I was just starting out, very small. 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,934 Other than your business, how do you support yourself? 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,734 I do Uber, like, DoorDash, stuff like that. 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,967 [Judge Judy] And before you became involved with the defendant, 28 00:01:27,033 --> 00:01:29,133 - who were you living with? - Uh, my brother and I 29 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,066 - had an apartment together. - [Judge Judy] And then what I gather, 30 00:01:32,133 --> 00:01:35,633 - around 2018, you met the defendant? - [Kyana] Yes. 31 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:38,667 [Judge Judy] And then in the summer of 2020, you became a couple? 32 00:01:38,734 --> 00:01:41,500 - Yes, ma'am. - According to you, in the summer of 2019, 33 00:01:41,567 --> 00:01:45,133 the defendant gave you money to put down on a car? 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,233 - [Kyana] Yes. - [Judge Judy] How much money 35 00:01:46,300 --> 00:01:49,567 - did he give you to put down on the car? - He gave me a thousand. 36 00:01:49,633 --> 00:01:52,866 And when in 2019 did he give you the thousand? 37 00:01:52,934 --> 00:01:54,967 That was in September? 38 00:01:55,033 --> 00:01:57,033 [Judge Judy] Okay. One of the things that was curious to me, 39 00:01:57,100 --> 00:01:59,333 when you decided to move in together, 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,900 you said you moved in with a goddaughter? 41 00:02:01,967 --> 00:02:03,900 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] Did she live with you 42 00:02:03,967 --> 00:02:05,567 during the whole time that you were living with the defendant? 43 00:02:05,633 --> 00:02:08,066 [Kyana] No, ma'am. Not the whole time. 44 00:02:08,133 --> 00:02:09,967 Well, where does she go when she's not with you? 45 00:02:10,032 --> 00:02:12,000 Um, well, she was living with her mother, 46 00:02:12,066 --> 00:02:15,300 but some family issues and then she came to live with us. 47 00:02:15,367 --> 00:02:17,500 [Judge Judy] Okay. Well, then I'm gonna get back to that in a moment. 48 00:02:17,567 --> 00:02:18,500 - Okay. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 49 00:02:18,567 --> 00:02:22,433 So gave you the down payment in September of 2019. 50 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:25,066 Then you decided to trade in that car, 51 00:02:25,133 --> 00:02:29,000 use that car as a down payment, and buy another car? 52 00:02:29,066 --> 00:02:30,500 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] And you bought 53 00:02:30,567 --> 00:02:32,966 another car that was in both your names? 54 00:02:33,033 --> 00:02:34,567 [Kyana] Yes. He convinced me to put it in. 55 00:02:34,633 --> 00:02:35,934 - Right. - [Judge Judy] Both your names? 56 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,466 It was in my name and her name, yes. 57 00:02:38,533 --> 00:02:40,100 - [Judge Judy] Yeah. Both your names? - Right. 58 00:02:40,166 --> 00:02:42,633 [Judge Judy] So part of this case revolves around this car 59 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:45,900 because when you had some sort of a kerfuffle 60 00:02:45,966 --> 00:02:48,433 in May of 2021, 61 00:02:48,500 --> 00:02:51,133 when you went on a road trip with this car. (chuckles) 62 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,000 Listen, I've learned to avoid long road trips. 63 00:02:54,066 --> 00:02:56,200 - [Tavon] The road trip was not... - Long road trips with children, 64 00:02:56,266 --> 00:02:58,800 long road trips with mates. Uh, you know... 65 00:02:58,867 --> 00:03:00,800 - [Kyana] It's so terrible. - ...certain things are very stressful 66 00:03:00,867 --> 00:03:02,166 on a road trip, 67 00:03:02,233 --> 00:03:04,700 unless everybody can watch a movie on their... 68 00:03:04,767 --> 00:03:05,900 - Uh-hmm. - [Judge Judy] Anyway, 69 00:03:05,967 --> 00:03:09,934 you traveled from Texas to New Orleans and from what I gather, 70 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,600 there was an argument that was in New Orleans, on Bourbon Street. 71 00:03:13,667 --> 00:03:16,567 You got annoyed, you left him on Bourbon Street, 72 00:03:16,633 --> 00:03:18,633 then he left you in New Orleans. (chuckles) That's... 73 00:03:18,700 --> 00:03:21,033 - [Kyana] No. That is not the full truth. - That's exactly... 74 00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:22,700 - [Judge Judy] Just a... - ...how it went. 75 00:03:22,767 --> 00:03:25,633 [Judge Judy] You had a fight in New Orleans, not in the car, 76 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:29,100 outside of the car, in a restaurant, on the street? 77 00:03:29,166 --> 00:03:30,500 - In the street. - No, it was on the street, 78 00:03:30,567 --> 00:03:34,300 he was yelling at me in front of everyone about something so insane, 79 00:03:34,367 --> 00:03:36,400 and I asked him multiple times can you chill? 80 00:03:36,466 --> 00:03:38,567 We're trying to enjoy my birthday. 81 00:03:38,633 --> 00:03:40,466 It was my birthday, it was the day after my birthday 82 00:03:40,533 --> 00:03:42,600 and he would not chill, so I was like, "You know what? 83 00:03:42,667 --> 00:03:45,633 Let's just go 'cause you killed my vibe, so let's just go." 84 00:03:45,700 --> 00:03:47,667 - So we're... - She left on her own. 85 00:03:47,734 --> 00:03:49,200 [Judge Judy] Don't--[makes noise] 86 00:03:49,266 --> 00:03:52,200 - Don't--try not to say anything. - [Tavon] Okay. 87 00:03:52,266 --> 00:03:53,834 - [Judge Judy] Again... - All right. 88 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:56,133 [Judge Judy] Usually, if you let her talk, it's gonna come down to the fact 89 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,700 that she said, "I lost my vibe, 90 00:03:58,767 --> 00:04:02,133 - let's just go and she left. - [Tavon] Yes. 91 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,600 I told him, "Let's go." 92 00:04:03,667 --> 00:04:05,166 [Judge Judy] Well, not let's go together. (laughs) 93 00:04:05,233 --> 00:04:07,900 [Kyana] Yes. Let's go together, let's go back to the hotel 94 00:04:07,967 --> 00:04:10,300 because I don't wanna be here anymore. I'm not just gonna leave him, 95 00:04:10,367 --> 00:04:12,166 we're in his car, first of all. And we came in together. 96 00:04:12,233 --> 00:04:13,667 [Judge Judy] No, you weren't-- you weren't in the car 97 00:04:13,734 --> 00:04:15,900 at the time you had the argument, that's what you just told me. 98 00:04:15,967 --> 00:04:17,700 - [Kyana] No, we drove there and parked. - You were outside the car 99 00:04:17,767 --> 00:04:20,934 and you said, "Just let's just go." When you said "just let's go..." 100 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,767 - Uh-hmm. - ...where did you go? 101 00:04:22,834 --> 00:04:25,500 I proceeded to walk to the car where we parked at. 102 00:04:25,567 --> 00:04:27,100 [Judge Judy] Okay. And where did he go? 103 00:04:27,166 --> 00:04:28,734 [Kyana] He was behind me, 104 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,332 but then as I'm walking, I turn around and he's gone. 105 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,233 - [Judge Judy] Okay. - So I turn around and I go back 106 00:04:33,300 --> 00:04:34,867 - to where we were initially standing... - [Judge Judy] Just a sec. 107 00:04:34,933 --> 00:04:37,332 Did you go back to the hotel? 108 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,266 - [Kyana] Yes. - [Judge Judy] Did you go back 109 00:04:39,332 --> 00:04:41,000 - to the hotel together? - No. 110 00:04:41,066 --> 00:04:43,667 - Did you go back to the hotel? - No, I did not. 111 00:04:43,734 --> 00:04:45,467 [Judge Judy] Were your things at the hotel? 112 00:04:45,533 --> 00:04:46,734 - [Tavon] Yes. - [Judge Judy] Did you just leave 113 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:47,967 - them there? - [Tavon] Yes. 114 00:04:48,033 --> 00:04:50,100 - What things were there? - My luggage. 115 00:04:50,166 --> 00:04:53,332 - [Judge Judy] Okay. Did you... - My cell phone and also my wallet. 116 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,033 [Judge Judy] Well, how did you get those things? 117 00:04:55,100 --> 00:04:58,633 I ended up getting a Uber-- not a Uber, but a Lyft 118 00:04:58,700 --> 00:05:02,033 at about 5:00 AM Saturday morning 119 00:05:02,100 --> 00:05:04,233 back to the hotel to get my things. 120 00:05:04,300 --> 00:05:06,500 Was there any drinking involved during this time? 121 00:05:06,567 --> 00:05:09,300 That is correct, 'cause she was gonna buy everything. 122 00:05:09,367 --> 00:05:11,233 Oh--shh, shh, shh. I'm getting a clearer picture. 123 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:13,467 So you got back to the hotel at about 5:00 AM. 124 00:05:13,533 --> 00:05:15,633 - Was the plaintiff there? - Yes, she was there. 125 00:05:15,700 --> 00:05:17,533 [Judge Judy] Okay. He comes back at 5:00? 126 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,367 - He gathers his things? - Uh-hmm. 127 00:05:19,433 --> 00:05:21,400 - Do you have any conversation? - [Kyana] Yes. 128 00:05:21,467 --> 00:05:25,100 He walks into the hotel room and he slams the door extremely hard, 129 00:05:25,166 --> 00:05:27,600 and he starts yelling at the top of his lungs, 130 00:05:27,667 --> 00:05:30,266 "Why would you leave me downtown in New Orleans?" 131 00:05:30,332 --> 00:05:31,700 And I was really scared so I didn't say anything. 132 00:05:31,767 --> 00:05:35,300 [Judge Judy] Just a sec. Had you taken the car back to the hotel? 133 00:05:35,367 --> 00:05:36,600 - Yes, I did. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 134 00:05:36,667 --> 00:05:39,000 - So you had an argument with him. - Uh-hmm. 135 00:05:39,066 --> 00:05:42,000 And you were not near the hotel, you were far enough away 136 00:05:42,066 --> 00:05:44,133 from the hotel to drive there. 137 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,800 Yeah, about seven minutes. 138 00:05:45,867 --> 00:05:47,567 I don't care. To drive there. 139 00:05:47,633 --> 00:05:51,433 And when you got back to the hotel, his 140 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:53,266 - phone was there, right? - [Kyana] Yes, ma'am. 141 00:05:53,332 --> 00:05:55,033 - [Judge Judy] His wallet was there? - Yes, ma'am. 142 00:05:55,100 --> 00:05:57,133 [Judge Judy] All of the things that would have enabled him 143 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,333 - to get back unless he walked back... - [Kyana] Yes, ma'am. 144 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,433 ...to the hotel. So in effect, 145 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:05,700 you left him downtown and went back to the hotel. 146 00:06:05,767 --> 00:06:07,700 - After looking for him for an hour. - [Judge Judy] Not after. 147 00:06:07,767 --> 00:06:09,233 - That's either a yes or a no. - [Kyana] Yes. 148 00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:10,934 You left him downtown, 149 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,700 he then left you at the hotel, 150 00:06:13,767 --> 00:06:16,266 took the car, and went back to Texas? 151 00:06:16,332 --> 00:06:17,200 Correct. 152 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:20,900 It's--simply, this is not a novel, 153 00:06:20,967 --> 00:06:23,200 it's maybe a novella, but it's not a novel. 154 00:06:23,266 --> 00:06:26,367 So you stranded him downtown New Orleans, 155 00:06:26,433 --> 00:06:28,800 he stranded you in Louisiana? 156 00:06:28,867 --> 00:06:30,367 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] That's part of your case, 157 00:06:30,433 --> 00:06:32,633 how you got back from Louisiana to Texas, 158 00:06:32,700 --> 00:06:35,767 it's not my problem, that's your problem, you got yourself back to Texas. 159 00:06:35,834 --> 00:06:38,400 This whole case revolves around this car. 160 00:06:38,467 --> 00:06:40,900 And also my belongings that he disposed of. 161 00:06:40,967 --> 00:06:42,767 - No. - [Judge Judy] We'll get to belongings. 162 00:06:42,834 --> 00:06:43,900 Yes, ma'am. 163 00:06:46,033 --> 00:06:47,600 Make sure you tell me everything that's true, understand? 164 00:06:47,667 --> 00:06:49,734 - Yes. - 'Cause you see how fair I am? 165 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,933 - Yes. - That can turn on you on a dime. 166 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,533 - Okay. - All right? 167 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:54,500 - [Tavon] All right. - Perfect. 168 00:06:59,332 --> 00:07:02,467 [theme music playing] 169 00:07:05,533 --> 00:07:08,600 [announcer] Kyana Guidry claims her ex- boyfriend, 170 00:07:08,667 --> 00:07:11,967 Tavon Hughes, owes for a car down payment, 171 00:07:12,033 --> 00:07:15,000 travel cost, and the value of her belongings. 172 00:07:15,066 --> 00:07:17,000 - You now have the car. - Which car? 173 00:07:17,066 --> 00:07:18,767 [Judge Judy] The car that's in both your names? 174 00:07:18,834 --> 00:07:20,200 [Tavon] No, I no longer have the car. 175 00:07:20,266 --> 00:07:22,200 - [Judge Judy] Where is it? - I gave the car back. 176 00:07:22,266 --> 00:07:25,400 [Judge Judy] Oh. You gave it back to the company that you bought it from? 177 00:07:25,467 --> 00:07:26,600 - Correct. - [Judge Judy] And there was 178 00:07:26,667 --> 00:07:28,133 - a car loan on it? - That is correct. 179 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,967 [Judge Judy] And so neither of you are obligated 180 00:07:31,033 --> 00:07:32,867 - under the car loan anymore? - That is correct. 181 00:07:32,933 --> 00:07:34,867 [Judge Judy] Was there any loss on the car? 182 00:07:34,933 --> 00:07:36,332 - Uh, yes. - [Judge Judy] How much? 183 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,700 About $3,000 of a difference 184 00:07:38,767 --> 00:07:41,433 between what was owed on the car and what it was worth. 185 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:44,667 [Judge Judy] Okay. And did the plaintiff 186 00:07:44,734 --> 00:07:48,600 share with you the difference of what you lost on the car? 187 00:07:48,667 --> 00:07:50,767 - No. The plaintiff never paid for... - [Judge Judy] Okay. 188 00:07:50,834 --> 00:07:53,533 - ...any of it. - So, I'm dismissing that part 189 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,367 of your case that wants money for a car. 190 00:07:55,433 --> 00:07:58,033 When two people aren't married 191 00:07:58,100 --> 00:08:02,066 and they sort of complicate their finances, 192 00:08:02,133 --> 00:08:05,734 courts are disinclined, unless there's some real unfairness, 193 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,367 to get involved with that, you decided to do that. 194 00:08:08,433 --> 00:08:10,200 It was ridiculous, I keep telling people, 195 00:08:10,266 --> 00:08:13,166 I've told people for a quarter of a century, don't do that. 196 00:08:13,233 --> 00:08:15,600 It's ridiculous to get so involved. 197 00:08:15,667 --> 00:08:16,900 - Yeah. - [Judge Judy] Don't move in 198 00:08:16,967 --> 00:08:18,533 with your boyfriend and decide 199 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,600 to solidify the relationship by getting a dog. 200 00:08:22,567 --> 00:08:23,667 Or a pony. 201 00:08:23,734 --> 00:08:25,332 Or a car. (chuckles) 202 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,734 Or an anything. 203 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,332 It's ridiculous. He did the absolute right thing. 204 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,033 He turned the car back 205 00:08:31,100 --> 00:08:35,400 because you weren't going to easily sign off on the car... 206 00:08:35,467 --> 00:08:37,734 - [Tavon] No. - ...he didn't want to be obligated 207 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:39,767 on a car and be paying off on a car 208 00:08:39,834 --> 00:08:41,332 that you partially owned 209 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,100 because your name is on the title, he did the absolutely smart thing, 210 00:08:45,165 --> 00:08:47,700 turned in the car, took a loss... 211 00:08:47,767 --> 00:08:49,033 - Right. - [Judge Judy] ...just like you did. 212 00:08:49,100 --> 00:08:51,033 So he was holding the car for me, 213 00:08:51,100 --> 00:08:54,165 I couldn't even say, "Hey, let me take the car..." 214 00:08:54,233 --> 00:08:55,567 - [Judge Judy] No. - "...and I'll make payments on it." 215 00:08:55,633 --> 00:08:57,100 - [Judge Judy] No. - I was making payment--yeah. 216 00:08:57,165 --> 00:08:58,567 - What did I tell you? - [Tavon] Right. 217 00:08:58,633 --> 00:09:02,767 No. He wasn't gonna do that because you weren't gonna do that. 218 00:09:02,834 --> 00:09:03,967 - You see... - How would we own... 219 00:09:04,033 --> 00:09:05,333 [Judge Judy] Well I'm gonna tell you-- 220 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,700 I'm gonna tell you why 221 00:09:06,767 --> 00:09:09,166 because I've been doing this for a long time. 222 00:09:09,233 --> 00:09:11,233 If he gave you the opportunity, 223 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:13,166 the loan company, 224 00:09:13,233 --> 00:09:16,734 which now has two people on the hook for money, 225 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,100 isn't gonna say, "Okay. 226 00:09:18,166 --> 00:09:21,533 We're gonna take the person who's a wage earner 227 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,066 off the obligation to pay for this car 228 00:09:25,133 --> 00:09:27,700 and we're going to let just you, 229 00:09:27,767 --> 00:09:31,033 who occasionally drives for Uber and has a small business 230 00:09:31,100 --> 00:09:35,367 be the primary and sole obligor on this loan." 231 00:09:35,433 --> 00:09:37,667 No lending company would do that. 232 00:09:37,734 --> 00:09:42,165 That's why the smartest thing to do was to do exactly what he did. 233 00:09:42,233 --> 00:09:46,500 He has removed the obligation of either one of you to pay on this car, 234 00:09:46,567 --> 00:09:50,567 he took a hit on the loss just like you took a hit on the payments 235 00:09:50,633 --> 00:09:52,900 that you made on the car since he put down 236 00:09:52,967 --> 00:09:54,567 the down payment for that year. 237 00:09:54,633 --> 00:09:57,467 So, make believe, you rented a car for a year 238 00:09:57,533 --> 00:10:00,667 and you had the use of the car for a year, I assume you had another car? 239 00:10:00,734 --> 00:10:02,033 - I did, um... - [Judge Judy] Okay. 240 00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:05,000 So you used the car-- you used the car for driving Uber, 241 00:10:05,066 --> 00:10:06,567 according to you, occasionally. 242 00:10:06,633 --> 00:10:09,300 So the part of your (indistinct) requests, 243 00:10:09,367 --> 00:10:11,200 money for the car is dismissed. 244 00:10:11,266 --> 00:10:13,734 Now, we're going to get to that part of your lawsuit 245 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,767 that asks for your property back. 246 00:10:15,834 --> 00:10:19,734 I'd like to know specifically, because this is what happened. 247 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,934 You finally made your way back to Texas, 248 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,333 he had stuff packed up, 249 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,700 you say you got some of the stuff that was there, 250 00:10:26,767 --> 00:10:28,333 but there was a lot of stuff missing. 251 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,133 You called the police, you went in with the police, 252 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,165 they looked around, and you say that you left items 253 00:10:34,233 --> 00:10:37,533 in the house that belonged to you, that he's retained? 254 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,266 So, tell me specifically, 255 00:10:40,333 --> 00:10:42,700 and I don't wanna hear about a hair dryer, 256 00:10:42,767 --> 00:10:44,867 I don't wanna hear about makeup, 257 00:10:44,934 --> 00:10:47,967 I don't wanna hear about two pairs of shoes 258 00:10:48,033 --> 00:10:49,567 or three pairs of jeans, 259 00:10:49,633 --> 00:10:52,165 that's not what this whole thing is set up for. 260 00:10:52,233 --> 00:10:54,667 What large-ticket items 261 00:10:54,734 --> 00:10:58,266 do you say he didn't return to you when he packed your things? 262 00:10:58,333 --> 00:11:01,400 - Like, my business supplies. - [Judge Judy] Okay. Business supplies. 263 00:11:01,467 --> 00:11:05,000 Tell me exactly what business supplies. 264 00:11:05,066 --> 00:11:08,133 So I had, um, my eyelashes, 265 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,867 I had about 80 pairs that I was (indistinct) 266 00:11:10,934 --> 00:11:14,033 [Judge Judy] Okay. Do you know what happened to her 80 pairs of eyelashes? 267 00:11:14,100 --> 00:11:16,333 - No, I do not. - What else? 268 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,367 - [sighs] Um... - [Judge Judy] Make sure you tell me 269 00:11:18,433 --> 00:11:20,200 everything that's true. Understand? 270 00:11:20,266 --> 00:11:21,834 - 'Cause you see how fair I am? - [Tavon] Yes. 271 00:11:21,900 --> 00:11:23,567 That can turn on you on a dime. 272 00:11:23,633 --> 00:11:24,967 Okay. 273 00:11:25,033 --> 00:11:26,100 - All right? - [Tavon] All right. 274 00:11:26,166 --> 00:11:27,834 - Perfect. - [Kyana] I mean, I don't have a ton of... 275 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:29,166 [Judge Judy] Just a second. 276 00:11:29,233 --> 00:11:32,100 - What else? - [Kyana] Mostly just my business stuff, 277 00:11:32,165 --> 00:11:35,633 really, but all of my other stuff, like, I had just bought 278 00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:37,900 a bunch of clothes, a bunch of shoes, 279 00:11:37,967 --> 00:11:40,165 like, literally, everything that I own was in that house 280 00:11:40,233 --> 00:11:42,700 'cause we lived together, all of my stuff was there. 281 00:11:42,767 --> 00:11:44,834 I want you to tell me exactly 282 00:11:44,900 --> 00:11:47,934 what date and time you went to the house 283 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,867 and he gave you some of the stuff that was there. 284 00:11:50,934 --> 00:11:53,600 Um, it was on July 1st. 285 00:11:53,667 --> 00:11:55,433 - [Judge Judy] 07/01. And... - No. June 1st. Sorry. 286 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:58,000 [Judge Judy] June 1st. And the trip was in May? 287 00:11:58,066 --> 00:11:59,633 - [Kyana] Yes. - The end of May, May 28th. 288 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:02,533 Now, when he gave you your things, 289 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,200 - what were they packed in? - [Kyana] It was a wagon that I had. 290 00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:08,233 He had like a suitcase and it contained some of... 291 00:12:08,300 --> 00:12:09,967 No, you mean a wagon that you pull? 292 00:12:10,033 --> 00:12:11,533 - Yeah, the wagon that you pull. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 293 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,133 So in that wagon was a suitcase? 294 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,200 - Uh-hmm. - What else? 295 00:12:16,266 --> 00:12:18,367 [Kyana] Inside of the suitcase, he didn't throw away 296 00:12:18,433 --> 00:12:20,734 - my LED mirrors that I sell as well. - [Judge Judy] Your what? 297 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,000 LED mirrors. That's something for my business as well. 298 00:12:24,066 --> 00:12:25,934 - [Judge Judy] Okay. - And, um, my passport was in there, 299 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,734 - my laptop was in there. - [Judge Judy] So that's big. 300 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,800 - [Kyana] Yes. - [Judge Judy] Now, 301 00:12:29,867 --> 00:12:31,600 when did you purchase this laptop? 302 00:12:31,667 --> 00:12:34,333 - The beginning of 2020, end of 2019. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 303 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,467 - Who purchased it? Who paid for it? - [Kyana] Me. 304 00:12:36,533 --> 00:12:38,165 - It came out of my-- - I did. 305 00:12:38,233 --> 00:12:39,633 It came out of my account. 306 00:12:39,700 --> 00:12:42,300 Money provided by me into her account. 307 00:12:42,367 --> 00:12:43,700 - [Judge Judy] Okay. - [Kyana] The money was a gift... 308 00:12:43,767 --> 00:12:45,600 - [Judge Judy] Just a second. - ...and (indistinct) 309 00:12:45,667 --> 00:12:47,133 Is what--just a second. No, no, no, no, no. 310 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,300 Listen to me, Ms. Guidry. 311 00:12:48,367 --> 00:12:50,033 Let's not play games 312 00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:53,266 because there's a reason for my asking you these questions. 313 00:12:53,333 --> 00:12:56,266 If I believe what you say in your complaint, 314 00:12:56,333 --> 00:12:58,333 which was your role was to stay home, 315 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,533 take care of the house, not work, 316 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,934 and he was providing for everything. 317 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,834 So if he bought you a laptop as a gift, 318 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:06,633 that's a gift, you're entitled to take it. 319 00:13:06,700 --> 00:13:10,266 If he bought you an LED whatever it is, 320 00:13:10,333 --> 00:13:12,400 if he provided the income 321 00:13:12,467 --> 00:13:15,033 that provided this cash to pay for 322 00:13:15,100 --> 00:13:17,967 and he gave it to you, that was a gift, that's fine. 323 00:13:18,033 --> 00:13:20,433 - But he did return that to you... - Uh-hmm. 324 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:22,767 [Judge Judy] ...because those were gifts. 325 00:13:22,834 --> 00:13:27,000 So he wasn't saying, "I paid for it, therefore it's mine," 326 00:13:27,066 --> 00:13:29,433 there was an understanding that he had 327 00:13:29,500 --> 00:13:32,767 that they were purchased with his funds as the source, 328 00:13:32,834 --> 00:13:35,500 but he recognized that they were a gift, 329 00:13:35,567 --> 00:13:37,600 so he returned it to you. 330 00:13:37,667 --> 00:13:40,533 What else was in the suitcase in the wagon? 331 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,767 [Kyana] Bubble mailers, 332 00:13:41,834 --> 00:13:46,066 like, mailers for me to mail out my products, and... 333 00:13:46,133 --> 00:13:48,266 [Judge Judy] Okay. So he returned business items. 334 00:13:48,333 --> 00:13:50,433 - Uh-hmm. - Uh-huh is not answer. 335 00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:52,300 - Yes, I'm sorry. Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] Business items. 336 00:13:52,367 --> 00:13:53,900 What else was in the wagon? 337 00:13:53,967 --> 00:13:55,567 [Kyana] That's really all I can remember. 338 00:13:55,633 --> 00:13:58,200 Just a second. Were there any clothes in the wagon? 339 00:13:58,266 --> 00:14:00,200 - Any clothes? - No, ma'am. 340 00:14:00,266 --> 00:14:02,500 The only clothes that I had was the clothes that I went to New Orleans with. 341 00:14:02,567 --> 00:14:04,934 [Judge Judy] Okay. Where were the rest of her clothes? 342 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,800 [Tavon] The other clothes that she did have, 343 00:14:06,867 --> 00:14:10,000 she had already gotten her clothes from the apartment. 344 00:14:10,066 --> 00:14:13,033 We had been back and forth with issues, 345 00:14:13,100 --> 00:14:16,100 and so she was in and out of the apartment all the time. 346 00:14:16,166 --> 00:14:19,000 When you say she was in and out of the apartment all the time... 347 00:14:19,066 --> 00:14:20,900 - Going to her brother's house and... - [Judge Judy] She would go 348 00:14:20,967 --> 00:14:22,734 - to her brother's house and take clothes? - Right. 349 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,934 [Judge Judy] When you left for New Orleans, 350 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,800 she had a lot of stuff at her brother's house, 351 00:14:26,867 --> 00:14:28,033 - is that what you're telling me? - That's correct. 352 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:29,433 - Okay. - [Tavon] The thing she had 353 00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:31,600 at the apartment, she took with her to New Orleans. 354 00:14:31,667 --> 00:14:34,033 [Judge Judy] To New Orleans, except for these--some business items... 355 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:35,165 - [Tavon] Correct. - [Judge Judy] ...that were there 356 00:14:35,233 --> 00:14:36,633 - that you did put in the... - [Tavon] Yes. 357 00:14:36,700 --> 00:14:39,433 That I gave to her when she returned to Houston. 358 00:14:39,500 --> 00:14:40,433 [Judge Judy] Okay. 359 00:14:43,266 --> 00:14:45,700 Do you have any proof that he acknowledged 360 00:14:45,767 --> 00:14:48,567 that he had property of yours in your home 361 00:14:48,633 --> 00:14:50,900 after the breakup that he threw away? 362 00:14:50,967 --> 00:14:53,033 - That's either a yes or no. - [Kyana] Yes. 363 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:55,300 [Judge Judy] I'd like to see it because, you know, 364 00:14:55,367 --> 00:14:57,367 my mind is always capable of being changed. 365 00:15:02,433 --> 00:15:05,433 [theme music playing] 366 00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:12,667 [Announcer] Kyana Guidry has accused her ex- boyfriend, 367 00:15:12,734 --> 00:15:15,266 Tavon Hughes, of refusing to pay 368 00:15:15,333 --> 00:15:19,734 for travel costs and throwing out her belongings after they broke up. 369 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,266 I'm curious where the goddaughter was 370 00:15:22,333 --> 00:15:25,300 when you went on this trip to New Orleans, 371 00:15:25,367 --> 00:15:27,767 and when you came back. Where was the goddaughter? 372 00:15:27,834 --> 00:15:29,066 She was with her mom, 373 00:15:29,133 --> 00:15:31,100 and he also disposed of her things as well. 374 00:15:31,166 --> 00:15:33,700 [Judge Judy] What I'm just not following 375 00:15:33,767 --> 00:15:37,700 is why sometimes with her mom, now you're back living with your brother? 376 00:15:37,767 --> 00:15:40,233 No, I have my own place now. The only reason why she was with her mom 377 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:41,934 that weekend is because we went to New Orleans. 378 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,000 [Judge Judy] Just a second. 379 00:15:43,066 --> 00:15:45,165 You have to understand, my background is family court. 380 00:15:45,233 --> 00:15:47,367 - Uh-hmm. - [Judge Judy] So, if you say 381 00:15:47,433 --> 00:15:51,100 you moved in with him in Texas with your goddaughter, 382 00:15:51,165 --> 00:15:53,400 there's a family court reason 383 00:15:53,467 --> 00:15:55,700 why she wasn't with her mother. 384 00:15:55,767 --> 00:15:57,266 We never went to court, 385 00:15:57,333 --> 00:16:01,066 it was just a family thing, like, I took the responsibility of having her. 386 00:16:01,133 --> 00:16:02,567 - [Judge Judy] There's a reason for that. - And he agreed. 387 00:16:02,633 --> 00:16:04,233 [Judge Judy] And I'm just curious 388 00:16:04,300 --> 00:16:05,734 what happened to her 389 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,934 when you were on this trip to New Orleans. 390 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,567 If she's not gonna answer me, I'm gonna let you answer me. 391 00:16:10,633 --> 00:16:13,333 [Tavon] Yes. Uh, she was probably with her brother, 392 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,867 that's where the little girl went when we went to New Orleans. 393 00:16:15,934 --> 00:16:18,667 [Kyana] We stopped in Lafayette, Louisiana, 394 00:16:18,734 --> 00:16:21,033 and dropped her, meet her mom. 395 00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:22,400 That is not correct. 396 00:16:22,467 --> 00:16:25,066 - Are you really gonna lie in court? - [Tavon] She knows that's not correct. 397 00:16:25,133 --> 00:16:27,066 - That is definitely correct. - I... 398 00:16:27,133 --> 00:16:28,000 [Tavon] Yeah. 399 00:16:28,900 --> 00:16:30,100 [Judge Judy] How long did she live with you? 400 00:16:30,166 --> 00:16:31,567 (laughs) About a couple of weeks. 401 00:16:31,633 --> 00:16:33,033 Oh, she was only with you a couple of weeks? 402 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:34,165 - [Tavon] Yes. - [Kyana] That's not true. 403 00:16:34,233 --> 00:16:35,900 She was not with us more than a couple of weeks. 404 00:16:35,967 --> 00:16:38,033 She was with us, we lived in the house together, 405 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:41,233 I have a copy of the lease, I'm on the lease, I live at the house, 406 00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:44,000 I have a YouTube channel, I'm in the house every single day. 407 00:16:44,066 --> 00:16:46,367 Not you. I'm talking about your goddaughter. 408 00:16:46,433 --> 00:16:48,000 - [Kyana] Yeah. - [Tavon] The kid did not live with us. 409 00:16:48,066 --> 00:16:49,066 - [Kyana] She did live with us. - [Judge Judy] Shh. 410 00:16:49,133 --> 00:16:50,800 For how long is my question? 411 00:16:50,867 --> 00:16:52,867 For a couple of months, like... 412 00:16:52,934 --> 00:16:54,900 [Judge Judy] Okay. Not a "couple of months like." 413 00:16:54,967 --> 00:16:56,967 So she lived with you for a couple of months. 414 00:16:57,033 --> 00:16:59,467 What months did she live with you? I just would like to know. 415 00:16:59,533 --> 00:17:01,934 So she lived with us from, like... 416 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,867 [Judge Judy] Not "like" I take out the word, "like," it's a filler word. 417 00:17:04,934 --> 00:17:06,700 - Don't ever use it again. - Okay. Sorry. 418 00:17:06,767 --> 00:17:08,834 [Judge Judy] Except if you wanna say "I like you." 419 00:17:08,900 --> 00:17:10,967 But other than that, don't use the word "like." 420 00:17:11,032 --> 00:17:12,867 She lived with you from when to when? 421 00:17:12,934 --> 00:17:16,300 - [Kyana] From March of 2021. - [Judge Judy] 2021. Okay. 422 00:17:16,367 --> 00:17:19,000 - Until the breakup. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 423 00:17:19,066 --> 00:17:20,900 - Who is she living with now? - [Kyana] With me. 424 00:17:20,967 --> 00:17:23,200 - [Judge Judy] And you're living alone? - Yes, ma'am. 425 00:17:23,266 --> 00:17:26,200 - Do you have custody of her? - [Kyana] I don't have court custody, 426 00:17:26,266 --> 00:17:27,900 no, ma'am. I have guardianship. 427 00:17:27,967 --> 00:17:29,266 - [Judge Judy] You have guardianship... - I'm her guardian. 428 00:17:29,333 --> 00:17:31,300 - [Judge Judy] ...through a court? - No. Not through a court. 429 00:17:31,367 --> 00:17:33,900 - Any reason why not? - We just never went that route, 430 00:17:33,967 --> 00:17:36,400 it was just an understanding that she's gonna stay with me. 431 00:17:36,467 --> 00:17:37,700 [Judge Judy] Well, you know, 432 00:17:37,767 --> 00:17:40,367 you have to permanently plan for this child's future. 433 00:17:40,433 --> 00:17:42,133 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] That's the important thing. 434 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,233 I see that you have a certain affection for her 435 00:17:45,300 --> 00:17:48,233 and it's fair for a child to know where they're gonna be. 436 00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:50,266 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] And if you're stepping in 437 00:17:50,333 --> 00:17:53,233 to do that, good for you, but child should have some sort of a plan. 438 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:56,066 Okay. Now, did you dispose 439 00:17:56,133 --> 00:18:00,600 of any of Ms. Guidry's clothing, shoes, anything else. 440 00:18:00,667 --> 00:18:02,333 - Even if you bought it? - No. 441 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,567 [Judge Judy] Do you have anything of hers in your home that belongs to her? 442 00:18:06,633 --> 00:18:07,633 No, I do not. 443 00:18:07,700 --> 00:18:10,600 And when I allowed the police officer to come through the home, 444 00:18:10,667 --> 00:18:13,367 I allowed him to go in every single room in that home 445 00:18:13,433 --> 00:18:15,467 to check it out to see if she had anything. 446 00:18:15,533 --> 00:18:17,166 - [Judge Judy] Okay. - And there was nothing there of hers 447 00:18:17,233 --> 00:18:18,667 'cause she didn't have anything in there. 448 00:18:18,734 --> 00:18:20,433 - Because you threw it all away. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 449 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:22,166 He doesn't have anything that belongs to you. 450 00:18:22,233 --> 00:18:23,700 Now, this is what you're asking for. 451 00:18:23,767 --> 00:18:25,333 Money owed for travel expenses. 452 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,266 Those are the travel expenses that you incurred 453 00:18:28,333 --> 00:18:31,934 moving from Louisiana back to Texas 454 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,867 because he took the car and went home. 455 00:18:33,934 --> 00:18:35,400 You had a fight, that's what happened. 456 00:18:35,467 --> 00:18:39,300 He just traveled a shorter distance when you left him on Bourbon Street. 457 00:18:39,367 --> 00:18:41,433 The car down payments, I've already dealt with, 458 00:18:41,500 --> 00:18:44,200 he did the absolute right thing by returning the car. 459 00:18:44,266 --> 00:18:47,166 - Okay. - He doesn't have any property of yours. 460 00:18:47,233 --> 00:18:49,066 [Kyana] He had all of my property. 461 00:18:49,133 --> 00:18:51,033 - [Tavon] I do not-- - I live in that house. 462 00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:52,533 [Judge Judy] Right now he has none of your property. 463 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,533 - She knows I don't have-- - [Kyana] I moved into the house-- 464 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,533 - --any of my property. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 465 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,767 - --with all of my clothes, my shoes-- - [Judge Judy] Just a sec-- 466 00:18:55,834 --> 00:18:56,900 [Tavon] [indistinct] everything for her. 467 00:18:56,967 --> 00:18:58,900 - Don't argue, just don't-- - [Kyana] Everything. 468 00:18:58,967 --> 00:19:00,967 please do me a favor, don't argue with me. 469 00:19:01,567 --> 00:19:06,600 Right now, I have to make a decision about who I rely on, 470 00:19:06,667 --> 00:19:10,700 and Mr. Hughes says, which is supported by his conduct 471 00:19:10,767 --> 00:19:15,467 that big-ticket items like laptops, which are expensive, 472 00:19:15,533 --> 00:19:18,633 which clearly he paid for, he gave to you. 473 00:19:18,700 --> 00:19:24,300 So since he gave you things that had value that he paid for, 474 00:19:24,367 --> 00:19:26,033 why would he keep your shoes? 475 00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:28,200 - Why would he throw away [indistinct] - [Judge Judy] No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 476 00:19:28,266 --> 00:19:30,900 Don't say why. I don't answer questions. 477 00:19:30,967 --> 00:19:33,567 Do you have any proof that he acknowledged 478 00:19:33,633 --> 00:19:37,834 that he had property of yours in your home after the breakup, 479 00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:39,400 which would have been around June 1st, 480 00:19:39,467 --> 00:19:42,033 when you came with the police, that he threw away? 481 00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:44,200 That's either a yes or a no. 482 00:19:44,266 --> 00:19:45,533 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] I'd like to see it 483 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,066 because, you know, my mind is always capable of being changed. 484 00:19:50,834 --> 00:19:52,867 - [Kevin] I'll take it. I'll take it. - [Kyana] So this and-- 485 00:19:52,934 --> 00:19:54,767 - that's what I said on [indistinct] - [Judge Judy] Okay. 486 00:20:01,967 --> 00:20:02,800 Yeah. 487 00:20:02,867 --> 00:20:06,834 The only thing he says here is "I want closure," 488 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:08,900 and that was on May 29th. 489 00:20:08,967 --> 00:20:12,300 You have 'till the end of next week to secure your things, 490 00:20:12,367 --> 00:20:14,834 he says, "or they will be disposed of." 491 00:20:14,900 --> 00:20:18,567 And this was on May 29th, and according to what I heard, 492 00:20:18,633 --> 00:20:21,567 I believe June 1st is the day you went there with the police-- 493 00:20:21,633 --> 00:20:22,600 - [Tavon] Correct. - --is that right? 494 00:20:22,667 --> 00:20:24,100 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] That was within that week. 495 00:20:24,166 --> 00:20:26,000 - Yes. - Okay. Your case is dismissed. 496 00:20:26,066 --> 00:20:28,000 We're finished. Thank you very much. It's over. 497 00:20:28,066 --> 00:20:29,533 [Kevin] Court is adjourned. 498 00:20:31,233 --> 00:20:33,367 Okay. So this man came after me. 499 00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:34,834 I cared about Kyana. 500 00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:36,367 I did a lot of things for her. 501 00:20:36,433 --> 00:20:37,967 And I told him, like, "Okay. 502 00:20:38,033 --> 00:20:41,367 Well, you know, I like to be taken care of." 503 00:20:41,433 --> 00:20:46,000 Including, you know, paying for her things that she didn't have. 504 00:20:46,066 --> 00:20:49,300 I like to be provided for, he agreed to everything, he even... 505 00:20:49,367 --> 00:20:50,967 And that's the way it was. 506 00:20:51,033 --> 00:20:54,033 ...made sure I had money on a specific day, every day. 507 00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:55,500 She was taking advantage, exactly. 508 00:20:55,567 --> 00:20:56,600 He did that on his own. 509 00:20:56,667 --> 00:20:59,333 I got closure that I'd been wanting for a very long time, 510 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,233 so I'm happy with the verdict. 511 00:21:01,300 --> 00:21:02,667 [Judge Judy] (chuckles) So, what do you think? 512 00:21:02,734 --> 00:21:05,734 You know, number one lesson I've learned since being here, 513 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,900 don't co-sign, don't co-own, anything, 514 00:21:08,967 --> 00:21:13,667 with anyone that's not your legally married husband, wife, partner, 515 00:21:13,734 --> 00:21:16,000 because these problems arise all the time 516 00:21:16,066 --> 00:21:19,967 and courts don't wanna be involved in people's petty relationship drama. 517 00:21:20,033 --> 00:21:22,867 Right. We don't wanna decide whether those are your underpants 518 00:21:22,934 --> 00:21:24,500 or somebody else's underpants. 519 00:21:24,567 --> 00:21:26,633 - Exactly. - Uh, you know, my father used to say, 520 00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:30,567 "Keep it simple, stupid. Use the KISS principle, keep it simple." 521 00:21:30,633 --> 00:21:33,000 You're absolutely right, I'm glad you learned a lesson. 522 00:21:34,700 --> 00:21:35,900 [Announcer] Want justice? 523 00:21:35,967 --> 00:21:38,333 Go to JudyJustice.tv.