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You were interested in her daycare?

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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

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I have video footage of
the children with me and I have pictures.

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I don't recall none of this.

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You don't?

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Hmm.

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Oh, my God.

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You have a bad memory.

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There are some people
that just will never get it,

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and they will go through life
never getting it.

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[announcer] This is Judy Justice.

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[theme music playing]

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[announcer] Daycare owner LaKesha Thomas

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is suing her former client Ka'Leshia Friar

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for one month of daycare services,

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fraud, and breach of contract.

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[Kevin] Court come to order.

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[Judge Judy] Have a seat, please.

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- Hello, Judge.
- Hello.

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Case number 1116, Thomas versus Friar.

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- Thank you.
- [Kevin] You're welcome.

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Ms. Thomas, how long have you had
a daycare center?

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Since 2006.

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[Judge Judy] And are you licensed?

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I am licensed right from the start.

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- In what state?
- Georgia.

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[Judge Judy] How many children are you
allowed to have in your daycare facility?

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I'm allowed to have six
in the daytime and six at nighttime.

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[Judge Judy] Give me the hours
that you watch children during the day.

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- From 5:30 to...
- [Judge Judy] In the morning?

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5:30 AM to 5:30--to--PM.

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It's 12-month--12 hours there,
but it's nine hours, per child.

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What does that mean?

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[LaKesha]
I can get for children for nine hour--

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up to nine hours
because I'm a family home daycare.

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How many children could you have fulltime

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as children in the home at one time?

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At one time, six children.

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- [Judge Judy] During the day?
- During the day. Yes, ma'am.

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[Judge Judy]
And when you say six at night,

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does that mean overnight,

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that they stay overnight
or part of the night?

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That means, I guess, part of the night.

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- [Judge Judy] You don't know?
- 3:00 PM.

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[Judge Judy] Do you usually have
children who stay the night?

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- [LaKesha] No, ma'am.
- So it's just really during the day

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that you take care of up
to six children a day?

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Yes, ma'am.

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My night hours are 3:00 PM

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to 11:00 PM or 4:00 PM to 12:00 AM.

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Okay. And you are paid
additionally for that?

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Yes, ma'am.

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[Judge Judy] Do you usually
have six children in your program?

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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judge Judy] Since 2006,

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would you estimate

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that most of the time you have
maximum capacity children?

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Yes, ma'am.

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[Judge Judy] Ms. Friar, the first time
that you went to the plaintiff's home

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to--for a place for your two children,
did you go during the day?

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Yes, ma'am.

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And how many children were there?

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I'll say four, five--four or five.

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[Judge Judy] Okay. This is about money
that you claim is owed to you

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for taking care
of the defendant's children?

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Correct.

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[Judge Judy] And for falsely
disputing the charge.

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So I'm gonna start with Ms. Friar,
how old are your children?

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Now? They're um one and five.

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[Judge Judy] Now,
you are originally from Texas?

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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judge Judy] You were moving to Georgia?

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Yes, ma'am.

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Month, day, and year?

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[Ka'Leshia] Month? Um, I moved...

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in September--hmm.

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September--I really don't know the date.

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It was like September 10th of 2020.

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I contacted her a month before--

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I mean, two months--
almost three months, June 2020.

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[Judge Judy]
To tell her that you were moving

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and that you were interested
in her daycare?

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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

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And did you go to see it
before you enrolled your children?

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Yes, ma'am. I actually went to see her
and we--I told her that I got a...

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In what month? Was that in September?

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Oh, that was--when I went to go?

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Oh, it was September. Yes, ma'am.

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Do you remember what date in September?

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I'll say--I will say like the...

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[Judge Judy]
Do you know when in September?

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[LaKesha] I do.

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Around the 10th through the 12th.

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When did your children
start in her daycare?

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[Ka'Leshia]
I'll say the--it was after the 14th.

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Yeah, the last week of September.

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Give me the date.

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the 20--I think it was the 28th.

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Yup, 28th.

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[Judge Judy] That's when they started?

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Yes, ma'am.

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- Both fulltime?
- [Ka'Leshia] Yes, ma'am.

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It was actually past fulltime.

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- [Judge Judy] Okay. So fulltime.
- Yes, ma'am.

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[Judge Judy] And then you agreed with her,

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according to what I read about

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how much she would be paid every two weeks

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- to take care of the children?
- Yes, ma'am.

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[Judge Judy] And what was
she supposed to be paid each--

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two weeks to take care of the children?

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Three hundred and fifty-two.

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- [Judge Judy] Bi-weekly?
- Bi-weekly.

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[Judge Judy] Did you sign a contract?

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Uh yes, ma'am.

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[Judge Judy] Do you have
a copy of the contract?

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- May I see it, please?
- [Kevin] Okay.

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[Judge Judy] What is this Loan AND/OR
Daycare Tuition Re-Payment Form?

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My Loan and Daycare
Tuition Form is for parents

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who cannot pay me
on my stated Monday tuition payday,

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or if a personal loan is loaned to anyone.

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And the Daycare Tuition Re-Payment Form

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is because Ms. Friar
couldn't make Monday payments.

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- My tuition is due on Mondays.
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

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But she says you made an arrangement
with her to pay $352 bi-weekly?

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Was that your agreement with her?

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That was my agreement with her
up until January.

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- Just a--just a second.
- [LaKesha] Sorry.

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Was that your agreement with her?

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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

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- And you started September 28th?
- Yes, ma'am.

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[Judge Judy] And did you make bi-weekly
payments through October 28th?

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[Ka'Leshia] No, ma'am.

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I--actually,
October 23rd was the last time

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she'd seen my children because my...

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[Judge Judy] Just a second.

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You were actually there for four weeks?

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- Yeah. Well--yeah--no. I...
- Yeah, four weeks.

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[Ka'Leshia] I was--yeah,
I was there actually four weeks.

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[Judge Judy] Your children
were there for four weeks?

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Not too long.

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- Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] Just a second.

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Were actually physically
in the location for four weeks?

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Yes, ma'am.

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[Judge Judy] So if your children
were there for four weeks,

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you should have paid her $704?

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Did you pay her the $704?

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[Ka'Leshia] Yes, ma'am.
I paid her that amount.

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I paid bi-weekly.

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[Judge Judy] What I wanna know
is did you pay her $704?

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Yes, ma'am.

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[Judge Judy] And those payments
you did not have reversed at a bank

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- or anything else?
- No, ma'am.

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[Judge Judy] You actually paid her 704?

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Yeah, we did it through CashApp.

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[Judge Judy] How much did you receive
from the defendant

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between September 28th and October 23rd?

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That's a question.

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When did you marry?

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We're in that process at this time,
now getting married.

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- [Judge Judy] So you're not married?
- Right.

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- So the answer is you're not married.
- [D'Vontae] We...

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You're married or you're not married?

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People know when they're married
or when they're not married.

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[theme music playing]

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[announcer] Daycare owner, Lakesha Thomas,

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claims her former client
Ka'Leshia Friar is responsible

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for one month of daycare services
after Ka'Leshia disputed the charges.

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- Look at your papers.
- [LaKesha] Okay.

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I wanna know how much
you were paid for those four weeks?

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It should have been 704.

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The registration fee is $65 per child.

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[Judge Judy] Just a second--no j--

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Yes, ma'am.

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Understand something.

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I asked you a question.

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I said how much were you paid by her
between 9/28 and 10/23?

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The bi-weekly should have been 704.

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That's correct.

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[Judge Judy] How much did you
receive from her in total?

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- 704 plus 130.
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

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So you received what you started to say
was a registration fee plus the 704.

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Were any of those charges
reversed by a bank?

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Those charges were--two weeks...

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- [Judge Judy] That's either yes or no?
- Yes. Yes, ma'am.

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Which two weeks?

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[LaKesha] The week
of October 24th, that week.

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- [Judge Judy] You mean the week for...
- The two weeks prior to that.

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[Judge Judy]
So, she reversed one payment of 352,

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is that what you're saying to me?

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She reversed two payments.

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Ms. Friar stated she was--

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her children were with me
until October 23rd.

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That's not true.

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They came another week in October
and they came three weeks in November.

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- So, I don't know where...
- [Judge Judy] Just a minute.

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Do you know if they were there, actually,
physically there?

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In my presence. Yes, ma'am.

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[Judge Judy] Really?

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- May I see your record?
- [LaKesha] You can. Yes, ma'am.

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Sure.

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Here's November. Here's October.

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I have video footage
of the children with me

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and I have pictures
of the children with me.

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I would love to see...

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- [LaKesha] After October 23rd.
- I would love--just a second.

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I would love to see it.

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Absolutely.

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[Judge Judy] Now, before I look at that,

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and it's not that
I wouldn't like to look at it,

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which I probably will.

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Do you wanna rethink of
when your children were last there?

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They weren't there?

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October 23rd of 2020.

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Oh, my God. Okay. I have text messages
too.

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[Judge Judy]
She says that they were there,

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that's Arthur and KeShawn?

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The name's Arthur and Kashten.

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[Judge Judy] Arthur and Kashten? Okay.

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Well, I only have October,
through October 3rd,

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the 26th through the 30th.

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That's one week.

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Oh, there's November.

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I have through--well,
you have it through November 19th.

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So you have video showing me
the children there after October 23rd?

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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judge Judy] I'd like to see it.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Just type on Judy Justice,
if she wanna press that one

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- and she can see the timestamp
- [Kevin] Timestamp?

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[LaKesha] Yes, sir.

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[Kevin] This one right here, Judge.
The one--top, top right.

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[Judge Judy] Well, I have one
photo here on October 29th.

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I mean,
she could've got the photo anywhere.

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- And timestamped it?
- [Judge Judy] Just a second.

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No. It says October 29th, 10:25 AM.

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Okay. She could have--she probably...

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[Judge Judy] Are these your children?

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Um, I can't see.

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Oh, wow.

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- [Ka'Leshia] Yeah, they're mine.
- Yeah. Okay. Good.

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That's a video, Your Honor.

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What?

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That--if you go back.

241
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- [LaKesha] Yeah.
- That--this is a video,

242
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it's a screen recording of a...

243
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Would you do me a favor?

244
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See if you can negotiate that for me.

245
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- Yeah. Okay.
- [laughter]

246
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You can see here, it says home,
November 10th, 9:58 AM.

247
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[LaKesha] My birthday.

248
00:10:10,677 --> 00:10:11,878
[Sarah] This is just...

249
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- [Judge Judy] Got it.
- [Sarah] Yeah.

250
00:10:14,514 --> 00:10:15,882
- [Judge Judy] That's her?
- [Sarah] She screen-recorded

251
00:10:15,949 --> 00:10:17,417
a security footage or something.

252
00:10:17,484 --> 00:10:18,552
- You mean...
- It's timestamped it's...

253
00:10:18,618 --> 00:10:20,087
...the security footage from her house?

254
00:10:20,153 --> 00:10:25,025
Yeah. It's timestamped
at November 10th, 2020 at 9:58 AM.

255
00:10:26,026 --> 00:10:26,994
[Judge Judy] Got it.

256
00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:28,028
Do you wanna see the video?

257
00:10:28,095 --> 00:10:30,764
[Ka'Leshia] I mean, she could've found
the video and screen-recorded it.

258
00:10:30,831 --> 00:10:32,065
Oh, my God.

259
00:10:32,132 --> 00:10:33,834
I could easily
screen-record this right now.

260
00:10:33,900 --> 00:10:35,769
[Judge Judy] Okay.
So I want you to prove to me

261
00:10:35,836 --> 00:10:39,806
that you were not in Georgia
after September 23rd.

262
00:10:39,873 --> 00:10:42,109
Um, do you want me to go through my phone?

263
00:10:42,175 --> 00:10:43,643
I don't care how you prove it to me.

264
00:10:43,710 --> 00:10:46,046
I want you to look in your phone
and show me

265
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that you were not in Georgia
after September 23rd.

266
00:10:50,083 --> 00:10:52,052
[LaKesha] Okay.
Can I show you text messages

267
00:10:52,753 --> 00:10:54,921
from my last conversation, please?

268
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- It's October 23rd.
- [LaKesha] Thank you.

269
00:10:59,126 --> 00:10:59,960
- Hmm?
- October 23rd.

270
00:11:00,027 --> 00:11:01,228
October 23rd.

271
00:11:02,195 --> 00:11:04,064
- Oh, this is a different phone.
- [Judge Judy] Hmm?

272
00:11:04,131 --> 00:11:05,832
This is a different phone.
It's--I got a whole 'nother phone.

273
00:11:05,899 --> 00:11:06,800
Uh-hmm. I'm ready.

274
00:11:06,867 --> 00:11:09,169
Everybody who can't find something
finds a whole other phone.

275
00:11:09,236 --> 00:11:10,303
- They get a whole other phone.
- Yeah.

276
00:11:10,804 --> 00:11:11,638
[Judge Judy] Something
happens to their phone?

277
00:11:11,705 --> 00:11:13,140
- I got that from somewhere.
- Who's that?

278
00:11:13,874 --> 00:11:14,841
[Ka'Leshia] My husband.

279
00:11:14,941 --> 00:11:15,909
[Judge Judy] Stand up.

280
00:11:16,343 --> 00:11:17,577
- How you doing, ma'am?
- [Judge Judy] Stand up.

281
00:11:19,613 --> 00:11:23,016
Did you move with your wife
from Texas to Georgia?

282
00:11:23,083 --> 00:11:24,317
No, ma'am, I did not.

283
00:11:24,384 --> 00:11:26,286
- [Judge Judy] Where were you?
- In Texas.

284
00:11:26,353 --> 00:11:28,121
- [Judge Judy] What were you doing there?
- Working.

285
00:11:28,188 --> 00:11:29,623
And why did your wife go to Georgia?

286
00:11:29,689 --> 00:11:31,625
[D'Vontae] Well,
she wasn't my wife at the time.

287
00:11:31,691 --> 00:11:34,661
I met her during this process.

288
00:11:34,728 --> 00:11:36,196
[Judge Judy] What date did you meet her?

289
00:11:36,263 --> 00:11:40,901
[D'Vontae] I would probably say
September 18th or so.

290
00:11:40,967 --> 00:11:42,002
[Judge Judy] Where did you meet her?

291
00:11:42,069 --> 00:11:45,038
How did I meet her? (chuckles) Uh, on a
website.

292
00:11:45,105 --> 00:11:47,274
- But she was in Georgia at that time?
- [D'Vontae] No, ma'am.

293
00:11:47,340 --> 00:11:48,742
I was not in Georgia.

294
00:11:48,809 --> 00:11:51,111
- [Judge Judy] No, she was in Georgia?
- Yes, ma'am.

295
00:11:51,178 --> 00:11:52,846
[Judge Judy] She was in Georgia
when you met her on a website?

296
00:11:52,913 --> 00:11:54,181
- Yes.
- Don't touch him.

297
00:11:56,016 --> 00:11:58,151
- So you met her on a website?
- Uh-hmm. Yes.

298
00:11:58,218 --> 00:11:59,252
When did you marry?

299
00:11:59,319 --> 00:12:02,055
[D'Vontae] Um, we're in that process
at this time, now getting married.

300
00:12:02,122 --> 00:12:03,457
- [Judge Judy] So you're not married?
- Right.

301
00:12:03,523 --> 00:12:05,258
- But I mean...
- Is that--so the answer...

302
00:12:05,325 --> 00:12:06,359
- [D'Vontae] I'm saying we're...
- ...is you're not married.

303
00:12:06,426 --> 00:12:07,661
You're married or you're not married?

304
00:12:07,727 --> 00:12:09,196
People know when they're married
or when they're not married.

305
00:12:09,262 --> 00:12:11,665
You understand, like,
I'm saying we're in that process right now

306
00:12:11,731 --> 00:12:14,201
as far as we are going to
the court for that?

307
00:12:14,267 --> 00:12:16,169
- [Judge Judy] Hmm?
- Because I have to get some things off

308
00:12:16,236 --> 00:12:17,237
of my--in order to get married.

309
00:12:17,304 --> 00:12:19,806
Sir, either you're married
or you're not married.

310
00:12:19,873 --> 00:12:21,408
You are currently not married?

311
00:12:21,475 --> 00:12:23,410
Currently, right, which I answered.

312
00:12:23,477 --> 00:12:25,178
Either you're married
or you're not married.

313
00:12:25,245 --> 00:12:26,279
[D'Vontae] I mean,
you asked me the question.

314
00:12:26,346 --> 00:12:27,247
I gave you the answer to begin with.

315
00:12:27,314 --> 00:12:28,815
Then just answer the question. You...

316
00:12:28,882 --> 00:12:30,417
- [D'Vontae] I gave you that...
- She said, "This is my husband."

317
00:12:30,484 --> 00:12:31,718
- Right.
- It is.

318
00:12:31,785 --> 00:12:32,853
No, it's not your husband.

319
00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:34,888
[D'Vontae] I mean--but--
common law married.

320
00:12:34,955 --> 00:12:36,256
- [Judge Judy] No, there's no...
- Common law marriage would make that..

321
00:12:36,323 --> 00:12:38,358
[Judge Judy] It doesn't exist.
It doesn't exist anymore.

322
00:12:38,425 --> 00:12:42,195
Oh, well,
according to the staff of police in Texas,

323
00:12:42,262 --> 00:12:44,064
- it does exist in Texas.
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

324
00:12:44,131 --> 00:12:46,867
The only time common law may exist
in some jurisdiction is

325
00:12:46,933 --> 00:12:49,402
'cause it's outlawed in most,
is when you live open

326
00:12:49,469 --> 00:12:52,472
and notoriously with someone
for a period of either...

327
00:12:52,539 --> 00:12:54,207
- [D'Vontae] Right.
- ...10 or 20 years, or more.

328
00:12:54,274 --> 00:12:55,075
- Hmm.
- Oh.

329
00:12:55,175 --> 00:12:57,144
[Judge Judy] Then you can be
considered in some jurisdictions,

330
00:12:57,210 --> 00:13:00,380
maybe in some remote state.

331
00:13:00,447 --> 00:13:02,749
But most states have
outlawed common law marriage.

332
00:13:02,816 --> 00:13:03,917
- [Oh, well, I'm just...
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

333
00:13:03,984 --> 00:13:05,218
...giving you the information
that was given to us.

334
00:13:05,285 --> 00:13:06,620
[Judge Judy]
And just give the information.

335
00:13:06,686 --> 00:13:07,487
- Okay.
- [Judge Judy] So you're not married?

336
00:13:07,587 --> 00:13:09,256
You met in September of 2020.

337
00:13:09,322 --> 00:13:10,123
2020. Right.

338
00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:12,125
[Judge Judy] She was in Georgia,
you were in Texas?

339
00:13:12,192 --> 00:13:13,293
- [D'Vontae] Yes, I was.
- Okay.

340
00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,628
Were you working in Texas?

341
00:13:14,694 --> 00:13:16,163
- Yes. I worked in Texas.
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

342
00:13:16,229 --> 00:13:17,631
What were you doing? What kind of work?

343
00:13:17,697 --> 00:13:19,199
Um, I do music.

344
00:13:19,266 --> 00:13:20,667
I'm an entrepreneur in the music business.

345
00:13:20,734 --> 00:13:22,435
[Judge Judy] Had you known her before?

346
00:13:22,502 --> 00:13:23,537
[D'Vontae] No, ma'am, I did not.

347
00:13:23,603 --> 00:13:24,804
[Judge Judy] So you met her online?

348
00:13:24,871 --> 00:13:26,673
That's what I gave you
the information of earlier.

349
00:13:26,740 --> 00:13:29,309
Okay. When was the first time
you met her in person?

350
00:13:29,376 --> 00:13:32,145
Um, probably, um, February?

351
00:13:32,212 --> 00:13:33,513
So you met her in September.

352
00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:35,248
September, October, November, December,

353
00:13:35,315 --> 00:13:36,917
do--you didn't see her Christmas time?

354
00:13:36,983 --> 00:13:38,518
- [D'Vontae] No.
- [Judge Judy] What about Thanksgiving?

355
00:13:38,585 --> 00:13:41,021
- Did you see her on Thanksgiving?
- No. No. I don't celebrate holidays. No.

356
00:13:41,087 --> 00:13:43,924
[Judge Judy] When you were communicating
with her, was she in Georgia?

357
00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:44,925
Yes, ma'am.

358
00:13:44,991 --> 00:13:46,927
Did you know
where she was living in Georgia?

359
00:13:46,993 --> 00:13:47,861
No, ma'am.

360
00:13:47,928 --> 00:13:49,996
Oh, I did not know exactly
where she was living, that's it.

361
00:13:50,063 --> 00:13:51,431
[Judge Judy] Did you know
if she was working?

362
00:13:51,498 --> 00:13:53,567
Yes. She was working at that time.

363
00:13:53,633 --> 00:13:55,101
During Thanksgiving or Christmas,

364
00:13:55,168 --> 00:13:56,770
did she ever tell you
that she stopped working?

365
00:13:56,836 --> 00:13:57,704
Yes.

366
00:13:57,771 --> 00:13:59,306
[Judge Judy] When did she tell you
she stopped working?

367
00:13:59,372 --> 00:14:05,178
[D'Vontae] Um, October somewhere,
whenever the kids had symptoms of COVID.

368
00:14:05,245 --> 00:14:09,983
They had to be released from,
uh, go through the 14 days, uh, of COVID.

369
00:14:10,050 --> 00:14:14,154
And she had to do a extra 14 days,
so that makes four-week--four weeks

370
00:14:14,221 --> 00:14:18,058
that she had to sit for COVID
and she eventually lost her job.

371
00:14:18,124 --> 00:14:19,526
Do you remember what date that was?

372
00:14:19,593 --> 00:14:22,762
[D'Vontae]
Around October 23rd, around that...

373
00:14:22,829 --> 00:14:25,232
- [Ka'Leshia] 25th.
- Or 25th, somewhere around that.

374
00:14:25,298 --> 00:14:26,299
[Judge Judy] Okay.

375
00:14:27,901 --> 00:14:29,669
On November 11th.

376
00:14:29,736 --> 00:14:31,605
"Hey, we're gonna there around 9."

377
00:14:31,671 --> 00:14:33,139
I don't recall none of these messages.

378
00:14:33,740 --> 00:14:34,741
- [Judge Judy] You don't?
- No.

379
00:14:34,808 --> 00:14:36,776
[Judge Judy] Hmm. You have a bad memory.

380
00:14:36,843 --> 00:14:37,844
Yeah.

381
00:14:37,911 --> 00:14:39,179
Bad memory, and nasty.

382
00:14:44,184 --> 00:14:47,254
[theme music playing]

383
00:14:50,857 --> 00:14:53,627
[announcer] Daycare owner Lakesha Thomas

384
00:14:53,693 --> 00:14:55,695
has accused her former client,

385
00:14:55,762 --> 00:15:00,100
Ka'Leshia Friar of owing
for one month of daycare services.

386
00:15:00,634 --> 00:15:03,270
Ka'Leshia disputed the charges
with her bank,

387
00:15:03,336 --> 00:15:06,673
claiming her boys did not attend
the daycare that month.

388
00:15:06,740 --> 00:15:09,976
[Judge Judy]
Can you show the witness please,

389
00:15:10,043 --> 00:15:13,980
the video of the children
from November 10th?

390
00:15:29,696 --> 00:15:32,032
Was there ever a time that
the defendant's children

391
00:15:32,098 --> 00:15:33,366
- were out sick?
- No.

392
00:15:33,433 --> 00:15:35,201
[Judge Judy] Did she ever tell you
that they were out sick?

393
00:15:35,268 --> 00:15:36,403
- [LaKesha] No, ma'am.
- [Judge Judy] Okay.

394
00:15:37,203 --> 00:15:40,373
I assume that if your children were sick
and you were out with them for a month,

395
00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,744
that you took them to see
some sort of pediatrician or urgent care?

396
00:15:44,811 --> 00:15:46,146
Can I see proof of that?

397
00:15:46,212 --> 00:15:48,081
[Ka'Leshia] Actually, I went to a hospital

398
00:15:48,148 --> 00:15:50,317
and we didn't have Medicaid
or nothing like that.

399
00:15:50,383 --> 00:15:51,217
[Judge Judy]
Well, they would give you a...

400
00:15:51,284 --> 00:15:55,121
No. They just gave us a not--
they didn't have COVID.

401
00:15:55,188 --> 00:15:58,692
What's the name
of the emergency room that you went to?

402
00:15:58,758 --> 00:16:00,327
I don't know, Your Honor.

403
00:16:00,393 --> 00:16:01,661
I just barely moved to Georgia.

404
00:16:01,728 --> 00:16:05,265
It's like South something,
South Georgia Hospital.

405
00:16:05,332 --> 00:16:07,534
[Judge Judy] Tell me on what date
you reversed the charges

406
00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,036
on checks that you were giving to her?

407
00:16:10,103 --> 00:16:11,237
I reversed the charges?

408
00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:12,839
Yeah, did you ever reverse charges?

409
00:16:12,906 --> 00:16:15,742
I, um, actually talked to Kesha

410
00:16:15,809 --> 00:16:18,511
and let her know that--what was going on

411
00:16:18,578 --> 00:16:22,882
before this time and she was cool.

412
00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:25,618
She was like, "All right. You know,
you're a cool person, la, la, la."

413
00:16:25,685 --> 00:16:26,553
And there's no...

414
00:16:26,619 --> 00:16:28,321
[Judge Judy]
I just asked you a simple question.

415
00:16:28,388 --> 00:16:31,324
I said did there come a time
when you reversed charges

416
00:16:31,391 --> 00:16:33,860
in a bank for money that you had paid her?

417
00:16:33,927 --> 00:16:36,329
I contacted my bank.

418
00:16:36,396 --> 00:16:37,664
[Judge Judy] That's what I'm asking you.

419
00:16:37,731 --> 00:16:38,965
- Oh. I let them know...
- [Judge Judy] And what...

420
00:16:39,032 --> 00:16:41,301
On what date did you contact your bank

421
00:16:41,368 --> 00:16:44,304
to tell them to reverse
the charges on the check?

422
00:16:44,371 --> 00:16:46,039
January, 2021.

423
00:16:46,106 --> 00:16:47,240
[Judge Judy] January what?

424
00:16:47,307 --> 00:16:48,842
Um, 7th, I guess.

425
00:16:48,908 --> 00:16:49,776
28th.

426
00:16:49,843 --> 00:16:51,344
No, 7th.

427
00:16:51,411 --> 00:16:52,912
[Judge Judy] Well, if according to you,

428
00:16:52,979 --> 00:16:57,951
the last time that your children
were there was on October 23rd,

429
00:16:58,017 --> 00:17:01,254
why would you be reversing charges
in January?

430
00:17:01,321 --> 00:17:03,723
'Cause she was still
getting my money from me.

431
00:17:03,790 --> 00:17:04,924
My kids wasn't there the four weeks

432
00:17:04,991 --> 00:17:05,992
- so why should I pay her?
- [Judge Judy] Just a sec.

433
00:17:06,059 --> 00:17:08,560
What I'm asking you is
you had to have paid her?

434
00:17:08,627 --> 00:17:10,363
Was she on an automatic payment?

435
00:17:10,430 --> 00:17:12,898
- Yeah.
- [Judge Judy] So what you did was

436
00:17:12,965 --> 00:17:15,667
you told the bank
to stop making automatic payments?

437
00:17:16,435 --> 00:17:19,071
But you didn't stop in November?

438
00:17:19,138 --> 00:17:20,874
You stopped the end of January?

439
00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:22,709
You didn't stop in November?

440
00:17:23,175 --> 00:17:25,244
According to you, you stopped in January.

441
00:17:25,310 --> 00:17:26,780
Because she said she was gonna stop them.

442
00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:29,749
Okay. Now, I'll see the e-mail...

443
00:17:30,550 --> 00:17:32,252
- Text message?
- [Judge Judy] Yeah.

444
00:17:32,318 --> 00:17:33,119
[LaKesha] Okay.

445
00:17:34,821 --> 00:17:35,855
There we go.

446
00:17:45,432 --> 00:17:47,534
[Judge Judy] On November 11th...

447
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,936
- Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] ...at 5:19 in the morning.

448
00:17:50,003 --> 00:17:52,439
"Hey we're gonna be there around 9."

449
00:17:52,505 --> 00:17:55,341
- [Ka'Leshia] Uh-hmm.
- [Judge Judy] "GM, OK we'll be here."

450
00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:59,646
At 5:35 AM, you respond "We just woke up."

451
00:18:00,346 --> 00:18:02,315
"No worries, we'll be here."

452
00:18:02,382 --> 00:18:05,852
I don't know where Cash Cup is,
and she didn't either.

453
00:18:05,919 --> 00:18:07,887
If you find it, let me know.

454
00:18:07,954 --> 00:18:11,124
And then on November 20th,
"They're not coming."

455
00:18:11,724 --> 00:18:13,393
I don't recall none of these messages.

456
00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:14,961
- [Judge Judy] You don't?
- [Ka'Leshia] No.

457
00:18:15,028 --> 00:18:16,095
[Judge Judy] Hmm.

458
00:18:16,162 --> 00:18:17,397
You have a bad memory.

459
00:18:17,464 --> 00:18:18,431
Yeah.

460
00:18:19,065 --> 00:18:20,400
Bad memory, and nasty.

461
00:18:23,603 --> 00:18:24,771
Bad and nasty.

462
00:18:25,972 --> 00:18:27,307
- November 20th...
- [Judge Judy] Bad and nasty.

463
00:18:27,373 --> 00:18:28,208
If I...

464
00:18:28,541 --> 00:18:30,276
- Sit.
- [Ka'Leshia] Uh-hmm.

465
00:18:30,343 --> 00:18:32,312
- Would you...
- [Judge Judy] Sit--you--sit down.

466
00:18:32,378 --> 00:18:33,847
- I mean, so why did you made...
- Sit down.

467
00:18:34,347 --> 00:18:35,348
Stand up?

468
00:18:38,284 --> 00:18:40,753
[Judge Judy] So,
what you want me to think about

469
00:18:40,820 --> 00:18:44,324
looking at this is, is that the plaintiff

470
00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:47,961
who's been in business since 2006,
and has kids,

471
00:18:48,027 --> 00:18:50,597
you said she had four or five
when you went there to visit,

472
00:18:50,663 --> 00:18:56,135
that she somehow got somebody to change
the digitalized date stamp on a video

473
00:18:56,202 --> 00:19:01,541
and she somehow
created text messages with you

474
00:19:01,608 --> 00:19:04,310
going back--oh, my God,

475
00:19:05,111 --> 00:19:07,814
for October 7th,

476
00:19:07,881 --> 00:19:09,549
that is a child that belongs to you?

477
00:19:10,350 --> 00:19:11,184
That's my child.

478
00:19:11,251 --> 00:19:12,085
[laughs]

479
00:19:12,151 --> 00:19:12,986
Right.

480
00:19:13,052 --> 00:19:17,123
They've got all these text messages
go all the way back to October 1st

481
00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:18,858
from the same number.

482
00:19:18,925 --> 00:19:19,926
Do you understand?

483
00:19:21,027 --> 00:19:22,395
- I understand is that...
- [Judge Judy] Walk away.

484
00:19:22,462 --> 00:19:23,363
Sit.

485
00:19:23,429 --> 00:19:24,464
- You said stand...
- [Judge Judy] Don't.

486
00:19:24,531 --> 00:19:25,765
Which one you want me to do?

487
00:19:25,832 --> 00:19:28,368
I didn't ask you to stand.
I said did you--do you understand?

488
00:19:28,434 --> 00:19:30,203
- Oh, do I understand?
- [Judge Judy] Do you understand?

489
00:19:30,270 --> 00:19:33,139
They go all the way up
to November the 20th,

490
00:19:33,206 --> 00:19:34,374
that she made all that up?

491
00:19:35,008 --> 00:19:36,042
- It's 2020.
- And, you know,

492
00:19:36,109 --> 00:19:37,277
there are some people--

493
00:19:37,343 --> 00:19:40,880
there are some people
that just will never get it,

494
00:19:41,381 --> 00:19:43,583
and they will go through life
never getting it.

495
00:19:43,650 --> 00:19:46,586
And the sad part of it,
is people that go through life

496
00:19:46,653 --> 00:19:49,923
who never get it are gonna teach that
to their children.

497
00:19:51,057 --> 00:19:53,326
Judgment for the plaintiff
in the amount of $1,900.

498
00:19:53,393 --> 00:19:55,361
- We're finished.
- [Kevin] Court is adjourned.

499
00:19:56,563 --> 00:19:57,530
Thank you.

500
00:19:58,464 --> 00:20:00,700
- She was wrong.
- I'm glad justice was served.

501
00:20:00,767 --> 00:20:01,601
She did Photoshop.

502
00:20:01,668 --> 00:20:03,736
People told me that
folks would come up with

503
00:20:03,803 --> 00:20:06,072
whatever they wanna come up
with to get out of it, so...

504
00:20:06,139 --> 00:20:07,507
You can do anything to a iPhone.

505
00:20:07,574 --> 00:20:09,576
I don't even know and I don't even care.
(laughs)

506
00:20:09,642 --> 00:20:10,743
And I ain't going through this again.

507
00:20:10,810 --> 00:20:11,611
I'm glad this over.

508
00:20:13,112 --> 00:20:15,315
[Sarah] See, I told you,
there's some upside

509
00:20:15,381 --> 00:20:17,951
of learning all the technical timestamps

510
00:20:18,017 --> 00:20:20,920
and location stamps, and things like that.

511
00:20:20,987 --> 00:20:22,689
The plaintiff really had it all together

512
00:20:22,755 --> 00:20:25,224
and she had her evidence
and it was very clear

513
00:20:25,291 --> 00:20:29,462
from the timestamp on the video
and the photo that it was at her home.

514
00:20:29,529 --> 00:20:33,232
It had a location on a map
that you could see and a specific time.

515
00:20:33,299 --> 00:20:36,336
And it just shows that technology
can be useful sometimes.

516
00:20:36,402 --> 00:20:37,470
Okay. Yes.

517
00:20:37,537 --> 00:20:40,473
I'm sure it would be very helpful
if someone could teach me

518
00:20:40,540 --> 00:20:41,774
how to use those things.

519
00:20:41,841 --> 00:20:43,309
Until that time comes,

520
00:20:43,376 --> 00:20:46,145
I'm going to have somebody
sitting right over there

521
00:20:46,212 --> 00:20:47,680
who could get it for me.

522
00:20:47,747 --> 00:20:50,717
I don't know, I really tried
but I find it very difficult to master.

523
00:20:50,783 --> 00:20:52,218
I've just learned how to send an email,

524
00:20:52,285 --> 00:20:56,756
which for me is a giant leap forward
in some--into this century.

525
00:20:56,823 --> 00:20:59,092
- I'm doing my best, we have time.
- [Judge Judy] Thank you.

526
00:21:00,793 --> 00:21:01,995
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527
00:21:02,061 --> 00:21:03,963
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528
00:21:09,235 --> 00:21:12,238
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