1 00:00:00,867 --> 00:00:02,867 I started, uh, renting WaveRunners... 2 00:00:02,934 --> 00:00:05,800 You rented these jet skis for a family vacation? 3 00:00:05,867 --> 00:00:06,734 Yes, I did. 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,066 According to you, they were returned scratched? 5 00:00:09,133 --> 00:00:10,300 Yes, Your Honor. 6 00:00:10,367 --> 00:00:13,033 [Steven] I've got pictures here to show all the scratches 7 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:15,100 on the WaveRunners before we even picked 'em up. 8 00:00:15,166 --> 00:00:16,867 After this incident, I just sold the business. 9 00:00:16,934 --> 00:00:18,100 I couldn't handle it. 10 00:00:18,166 --> 00:00:19,633 That is not my problem, sir. 11 00:00:19,700 --> 00:00:21,567 [announcer] This is Judy justice. 12 00:00:21,633 --> 00:00:24,633 [theme music playing] 13 00:00:38,967 --> 00:00:43,500 [announcer] John Robinson is suing his jet ski renter, Steven Rigby 14 00:00:43,567 --> 00:00:47,667 for breach of contracts, property damage, and missing equipment. 15 00:00:47,734 --> 00:00:49,433 [Kevin] Court come to order. 16 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:50,867 Be seated, please. 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,934 - Good morning, Judge. - Good morning, Kevin. 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,633 Case number 1152, Robinson versus Rigby. 19 00:00:56,700 --> 00:00:57,734 - Thank you. - You're welcome. 20 00:00:58,567 --> 00:01:01,967 [Judge Judy] Mr. Robinson, tell me about this business that you're running. 21 00:01:02,033 --> 00:01:04,300 Yeah. So, I started, uh, renting WaveRunners 22 00:01:04,367 --> 00:01:06,700 because I just really enjoyed WaveRunners. 23 00:01:06,767 --> 00:01:09,333 I opened the business in around April 15th. 24 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,533 [Judge Judy] Of what year? 25 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,000 Of this year, 2021. 26 00:01:12,066 --> 00:01:14,500 [Judge Judy] What did you do before April of 2021? 27 00:01:14,567 --> 00:01:15,934 [John Joseph] I have a normal day job. 28 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,100 I work in the financial industry. 29 00:01:17,166 --> 00:01:20,433 I still do that but this was a side business for me, 30 00:01:20,500 --> 00:01:23,700 where I was gonna make extra income and also enjoy myself on the beach 31 00:01:23,767 --> 00:01:25,667 and take out the WaveRunners myself. 32 00:01:25,734 --> 00:01:26,867 How many did you buy? 33 00:01:26,934 --> 00:01:29,000 [John Joseph] I started off with just two WaveRunners. 34 00:01:29,066 --> 00:01:32,033 [Judge Judy] Did you add to the number of WaveRunners that you had? 35 00:01:32,100 --> 00:01:33,600 As soon as I sold the business-- 36 00:01:33,667 --> 00:01:35,567 'cause after this incident, I just sold the business. 37 00:01:35,633 --> 00:01:36,467 I couldn't handle it. 38 00:01:36,533 --> 00:01:38,000 So you no longer have the business? 39 00:01:38,066 --> 00:01:39,734 [John Joseph] No longer have the business, uh-hmm. 40 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,265 [Judge Judy] So you had the business from April of 2021. 41 00:01:43,333 --> 00:01:45,166 - [John Joseph] Uh-hmm. - Until... 42 00:01:45,233 --> 00:01:46,500 [John Joseph] July 2021. 43 00:01:46,567 --> 00:01:47,934 [Judge Judy] Until July? 44 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:48,866 - Yeah. - [Judge Judy] And when you say 45 00:01:48,934 --> 00:01:51,600 you sold the business, what did you sell of the business? 46 00:01:51,667 --> 00:01:53,333 Or did you just sell the jet skis? 47 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,533 - I sold the jet skis and then... - [Judge Judy] Oh, stop there. 48 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,500 And when you bought them in April 2021, how much did you pay for them? 49 00:02:00,567 --> 00:02:03,367 I paid--let me just pull up the receipt. 50 00:02:03,433 --> 00:02:05,600 I want to get this exactly right. Um... 51 00:02:05,667 --> 00:02:06,767 [Judge Judy] Absolutely. 52 00:02:06,834 --> 00:02:11,500 Including taxes and everything, it came out to 26,856. 53 00:02:11,567 --> 00:02:13,900 That's for the WaveRunners. 54 00:02:13,967 --> 00:02:17,367 And then, I bought a trailer with it, that was 2,100. 55 00:02:17,433 --> 00:02:22,367 And then, other costs like life jackets, gas cans, came out to a total of 29,500. 56 00:02:22,433 --> 00:02:25,000 But you paid $26,000 for the jet skis? 57 00:02:25,066 --> 00:02:26,400 - Yeah. - [Judge Judy] Let's go back 58 00:02:26,466 --> 00:02:27,800 to when you sold the business. 59 00:02:27,867 --> 00:02:29,667 You sold the business a few months later. 60 00:02:29,734 --> 00:02:30,600 Yeah. 61 00:02:30,667 --> 00:02:33,000 When you sold the business, you sold the jet skis? 62 00:02:33,066 --> 00:02:34,466 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] Who did you sell them to? 63 00:02:34,533 --> 00:02:37,033 [John Joseph] I sold them to my witness, Nathan. 64 00:02:37,100 --> 00:02:39,633 [Judge Judy] Oh, Nathan who missed the appointment? 65 00:02:39,700 --> 00:02:40,533 - Yes. - Yes. 66 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:41,533 [Judge Judy] That's interesting. 67 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,867 And did you create a bill of sale for Nathan? 68 00:02:43,934 --> 00:02:45,966 [John Joseph] Um, yes. I did seller financing. 69 00:02:46,033 --> 00:02:48,500 He didn't have the money at that time, so I gave him seller financing. 70 00:02:48,567 --> 00:02:50,400 You have a contract of sale with him? 71 00:02:50,466 --> 00:02:51,934 - I do. Yes. - [Judge Judy] I'd like to see it. 72 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,166 Kevin, would you show me the contract of sale? 73 00:02:55,300 --> 00:02:58,000 - [John Joseph] Here it is. - [Kevin] Thank you. 74 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,367 [Judge Judy] Did you have a loan on the jet skis? 75 00:03:09,433 --> 00:03:10,867 I did have a loan on the jet skis. 76 00:03:10,934 --> 00:03:12,066 For how much? 77 00:03:12,133 --> 00:03:13,633 [John Joseph] Eighteen thousand one hundred. 78 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:15,700 [Judge Judy] Okay. So you were able to pay off the loan? 79 00:03:15,767 --> 00:03:16,734 [John Joseph] Yeah. 80 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,800 And you sold the jet skis and equipment to him for $30,000? 81 00:03:21,867 --> 00:03:22,966 [John Joseph] No, Your Honor. 82 00:03:23,033 --> 00:03:25,966 I--in addition to that contract, I gave him another 17,000. 83 00:03:26,033 --> 00:03:27,533 You gave him a what? 84 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,700 I gave him 17,800 to buy more WaveRunners because... 85 00:03:31,767 --> 00:03:34,667 [Judge Judy] Oh, well, I don't care what you gave him to buy more WaveRunners. 86 00:03:34,734 --> 00:03:39,533 These were the two WaveRunners that we're talking about in this case? 87 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,667 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] That you sold to him 88 00:03:41,734 --> 00:03:44,000 for $30,500. 89 00:03:44,066 --> 00:03:45,734 Um so, that was the total loan amount. 90 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,533 But then, if you go further into it, then you'll see I gave him extra money. 91 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,600 No, no, listen to me. 92 00:03:51,667 --> 00:03:53,333 You didn't sell them for a discount. 93 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,700 You sold them for $30,500. 94 00:03:56,767 --> 00:04:00,934 And you agreed to loan him $30,500. 95 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,433 And the loan is secured by collateral. 96 00:04:03,500 --> 00:04:05,233 - [John Joseph] Yeah. - I assume if you were smart enough 97 00:04:05,300 --> 00:04:08,834 to draw up this loan agreement, you believed that the collateral 98 00:04:08,900 --> 00:04:12,300 was sufficient to ensure that the loan was repaid? 99 00:04:12,367 --> 00:04:13,500 - Yes, Your Honor. - [Judge Judy] Of course. 100 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,500 [John Joseph] Uh-hmm. 101 00:04:14,567 --> 00:04:18,300 [Judge Judy] So, in effect you were whole if he pays off this loan. 102 00:04:18,367 --> 00:04:21,667 Now, it is your claim that you rented these jet skis 103 00:04:21,733 --> 00:04:24,332 to Mr. Rigby for a family vacation. 104 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:25,300 [John Joseph] Yes. 105 00:04:25,367 --> 00:04:26,633 [Judge Judy] And you were taking grandchildren? 106 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:29,166 Yes. My son has a houseboat down at Lake Powell 107 00:04:29,233 --> 00:04:30,900 and we've been doing this for years. 108 00:04:30,967 --> 00:04:34,332 We've been--for about five or six years, we've been rentin' houseboats 109 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,633 for our grandkids to go down... 110 00:04:35,700 --> 00:04:37,567 - [Judge Judy] You mean, jet skis? - I mean, jet skis, WaveRunners. 111 00:04:37,633 --> 00:04:38,600 [Judge Judy] Okay. 112 00:04:38,667 --> 00:04:42,500 According to you, he rented them and they were returned scratched? 113 00:04:42,567 --> 00:04:44,166 - Scratched, yes, Your Honor. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 114 00:04:44,233 --> 00:04:45,433 Do you have photographs of the scratches? 115 00:04:45,500 --> 00:04:47,266 [John Joseph] I do. Yes, Your Honor. 116 00:05:00,133 --> 00:05:03,166 [Judge Judy] Did you ever arrive at your destination, Mr. Rigby? 117 00:05:03,233 --> 00:05:05,066 - Yes, I did. - [Judge Judy] With the jet skis? 118 00:05:05,133 --> 00:05:06,166 Yes, we did. 119 00:05:06,233 --> 00:05:07,367 And one of them worked? 120 00:05:07,433 --> 00:05:11,600 [Steven] Well, when you load 'em onto the houseboat, you can go weightless. 121 00:05:11,667 --> 00:05:14,633 So, they both worked just idling. 122 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:17,000 So, we loaded 'em on to the houseboat. 123 00:05:17,066 --> 00:05:19,567 So did you use them? Is my question. 124 00:05:19,633 --> 00:05:21,300 - No. - Neither one? 125 00:05:21,367 --> 00:05:24,000 [Steven] We used the one a little bit. 126 00:05:24,066 --> 00:05:26,367 [Judge Judy] Okay. Do you know how it got scratched? 127 00:05:26,433 --> 00:05:28,700 [Steven] We rented 'em twice from him. 128 00:05:28,767 --> 00:05:32,700 We rented 'em once in May, and then this was the July trip. 129 00:05:32,767 --> 00:05:37,133 He, uh, charged my son for scratches on the WaveRunners. 130 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,367 So, my son told me, "When you go to pick 'em up, 131 00:05:40,433 --> 00:05:42,133 take a video of the WaveRunners." 132 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:47,633 I've got pictures of me on my phone and I've got pictures here 133 00:05:47,700 --> 00:05:50,000 to show the--all the scratches on the WaveRunners. 134 00:05:50,066 --> 00:05:51,133 Oh, I'd love to see them. 135 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,332 [Steven] Yes. 136 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,367 This is before we even picked 'em up. 137 00:05:58,033 --> 00:05:59,200 [Kevin] Thank you. 138 00:05:59,266 --> 00:06:01,367 [Steven] And I got a video, if you'd like to see that, Your Honor. 139 00:06:01,433 --> 00:06:02,900 I absolutely would. 140 00:06:02,967 --> 00:06:07,900 So, so these were photographs that you took before. 141 00:06:07,967 --> 00:06:10,333 Right in the yard before we even picked 'em up. 142 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,567 Now I'd like to see your video, sir. 143 00:06:30,066 --> 00:06:32,066 Okay. I just wanna know. 144 00:06:32,133 --> 00:06:35,467 Do you park your jet skis someplace, Mr. Robinson? 145 00:06:35,533 --> 00:06:38,332 Where are the jet skis parked? 146 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,900 Your Honor, I was out of town. 147 00:06:39,967 --> 00:06:42,400 That's an either yes or a no. 148 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,266 I don't use them often, but I have used jet skis, 149 00:06:49,332 --> 00:06:52,600 and some are carefully taken care of 150 00:06:53,133 --> 00:06:56,433 and some when they're rented get banged around a little bit. 151 00:06:56,500 --> 00:06:57,600 Yours were banged around. 152 00:07:02,900 --> 00:07:06,066 [theme music playing] 153 00:07:09,066 --> 00:07:13,266 [announcer] John Robinson claims his jet ski renter Steven Rigby 154 00:07:13,333 --> 00:07:17,700 is responsible for missing equipments and damaging his jet skis. 155 00:07:17,767 --> 00:07:21,332 Steven is countersuing for the return of his rental deposit. 156 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,467 Okay. I just want to know. 157 00:07:23,533 --> 00:07:26,867 Do you park your jet skis someplace, Mr. Robinson? 158 00:07:26,934 --> 00:07:29,367 Where are the jet skis parked? 159 00:07:29,433 --> 00:07:31,000 Your Honor, I was out of town. 160 00:07:31,066 --> 00:07:33,133 That's an either yes or a no. 161 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,100 I'm looking here. There are a lot of other jet skis. 162 00:07:35,166 --> 00:07:36,467 In this case, yes, Your Honor. 163 00:07:36,533 --> 00:07:38,533 [Judge Judy] All right. So, in this case, the answer is yes. 164 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,767 You park where there are a lot of other jet skis. 165 00:07:40,834 --> 00:07:41,800 - Yeah. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 166 00:07:41,867 --> 00:07:46,200 Well, this is July 23rd at 8:57 a.m. 167 00:07:46,266 --> 00:07:47,600 [Steven] Uh-hmm. 168 00:07:47,667 --> 00:07:50,332 [Judge Judy] Which is when you picked them up. Okay. 169 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,166 And, you know, they look certainly drivable 170 00:07:53,233 --> 00:07:56,567 but they're-- certainly look used and, uh, scratched up. 171 00:07:56,633 --> 00:07:58,000 - Yes, Your Honor. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 172 00:07:58,066 --> 00:08:00,367 Now, Kevin, would you return this? 173 00:08:00,433 --> 00:08:04,633 So, they were scratched up before Mr. Rigby took them. 174 00:08:04,700 --> 00:08:08,233 Now, you have a video that Nathan just handed you. 175 00:08:08,300 --> 00:08:11,000 - [John Joseph] Yeah. - [Judge Judy] He wants to show me 176 00:08:11,066 --> 00:08:13,500 a video of what he allegedly took 177 00:08:13,567 --> 00:08:14,667 on the same date. 178 00:08:14,734 --> 00:08:17,533 Is that what you wanna show me, Nathan, or you didn't take 179 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,000 a video of the same day? 180 00:08:19,066 --> 00:08:20,266 It's not the same day... 181 00:08:20,332 --> 00:08:21,600 [Judge Judy] Then, I'm not interested in it. 182 00:08:21,667 --> 00:08:23,633 Then, I couldn't be less interested in it. 183 00:08:23,700 --> 00:08:27,700 So, Mr. Robinson, let me try to explain this to you, sir. 184 00:08:27,767 --> 00:08:31,500 You bought these in April. Did you buy them new or used? 185 00:08:31,567 --> 00:08:33,467 - Brand new, Your Honor. - [Judge Judy] And you rented them 186 00:08:33,533 --> 00:08:35,600 between April and the end of July? 187 00:08:35,667 --> 00:08:37,299 - [John Joseph] Yes, Your Honor. - [Judge Judy] And you used them? 188 00:08:37,366 --> 00:08:38,265 [John Joseph] Yes, Your Honor. 189 00:08:38,332 --> 00:08:40,299 [Judge Judy] How many times did you rent them? 190 00:08:40,366 --> 00:08:43,366 [John Joseph] What do you think? Maybe 25 times? 191 00:08:43,433 --> 00:08:44,333 - [Judge Judy] And maybe... - Twenty. 192 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,165 [Judge Judy] So, let's say 20, 25 times. 193 00:08:46,233 --> 00:08:48,767 And how many times did you personally used them? 194 00:08:48,834 --> 00:08:50,300 I only went out once, Your Honor. 195 00:08:50,367 --> 00:08:52,300 [Judge Judy] And what about Nathan, did he ever go out in them? 196 00:08:52,367 --> 00:08:53,667 - Once. - [Judge Judy] Oh, just a second. 197 00:08:53,734 --> 00:08:57,165 Once. So, you rented them 25 times, you went out once, he went out once. 198 00:08:57,233 --> 00:08:58,633 Well, somebody scratched them. 199 00:08:58,700 --> 00:09:01,333 Because what I'm telling you is his photographs... 200 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,000 - [John Joseph] Yeah. - [Judge Judy] ...that I've just looked at 201 00:09:03,066 --> 00:09:06,300 and his video of July 23rd, 202 00:09:06,367 --> 00:09:10,667 do not show me brand new three months old 203 00:09:10,734 --> 00:09:12,600 subject to normal wear and tear 204 00:09:12,667 --> 00:09:14,767 by one person using them. 205 00:09:14,834 --> 00:09:18,233 There are scratches on them. They're scuffed, you know. 206 00:09:18,300 --> 00:09:20,800 I don't use them often and haven't been 207 00:09:20,867 --> 00:09:23,166 on one in a couple of years, 208 00:09:23,233 --> 00:09:25,533 but I have used jet skis, 209 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,166 and some are carefully taken care of 210 00:09:29,233 --> 00:09:32,467 and some, when they're rented get banged around a little bit. 211 00:09:32,533 --> 00:09:34,967 Yours were banged around, and you sold them 212 00:09:35,033 --> 00:09:36,133 for what you paid for them. 213 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,266 So, I don't know what you're complaining about. 214 00:09:39,333 --> 00:09:40,967 So, so here's some more pictures 215 00:09:41,033 --> 00:09:42,934 that was right when we picked them up. 216 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,200 And you can see more scratches than I [indistinct] 217 00:09:45,266 --> 00:09:48,333 [Judge Judy] I can't differentiate, sir, between what scratches 218 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,567 were there and what scratches were not. 219 00:09:50,633 --> 00:09:53,333 Nor do I intend to use this device to figure that out. 220 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:54,266 [John Joseph] Yes. 221 00:09:54,333 --> 00:09:58,367 Because you have a bill for me, I assume from a mechanic. 222 00:09:58,433 --> 00:09:59,266 Yes, Your Honor. 223 00:09:59,333 --> 00:10:01,433 [Judge Judy] Who fixed up all the scratches. 224 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:04,200 And I assume, without looking at it, 225 00:10:04,266 --> 00:10:07,066 that the mechanic doesn't list 226 00:10:07,133 --> 00:10:10,533 where each scratch is located. 227 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:11,467 I assume. 228 00:10:11,533 --> 00:10:13,834 I assume that there's a general bill 229 00:10:13,900 --> 00:10:17,100 for cleaning up the jet skis. 230 00:10:17,166 --> 00:10:18,033 I may be wrong. 231 00:10:18,100 --> 00:10:19,567 If I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong. 232 00:10:19,633 --> 00:10:20,934 Yeah, it's a general bill, Your Honor. 233 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,800 [Judge Judy] Okay. Then, there's no way for me 234 00:10:22,867 --> 00:10:26,000 to differentiate between what the scratches, 235 00:10:26,066 --> 00:10:29,200 and nicks, and dents that were in the jet skis 236 00:10:29,266 --> 00:10:32,333 in the video that I just saw from July 23rd 237 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,233 and your mechanic's bill. 238 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:37,467 So, what I'm telling you is you had no damage. 239 00:10:37,533 --> 00:10:41,567 You sold the equipment to Nathan 240 00:10:41,633 --> 00:10:43,367 for what you paid for it. 241 00:10:43,433 --> 00:10:45,834 You rented them, according to you, 242 00:10:45,900 --> 00:10:48,800 25 times between April, 243 00:10:48,867 --> 00:10:51,433 May, June, and July 23rd. 244 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:55,300 So, you don't have any damages 'cause I assume you made money. 245 00:10:55,367 --> 00:10:57,367 I assume you rented them for money? 246 00:10:57,433 --> 00:10:58,667 - Yes, Your Honor. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 247 00:10:58,734 --> 00:10:59,967 So you have no damages. 248 00:11:00,100 --> 00:11:02,800 And there's no way for me to tell where the scratches are. 249 00:11:02,867 --> 00:11:06,266 With the sale to Nathan, I gave him an additional 17,000 250 00:11:06,333 --> 00:11:09,000 to get to that 30,000 that I sold it to him for. 251 00:11:09,066 --> 00:11:14,233 So, that's where--we would actually sold it to him for much less than 30,000. 252 00:11:14,300 --> 00:11:16,433 [Judge Judy] Well, that's not-- I may have missed it. 253 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:22,333 So, you gave him $17,500. 254 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:28,000 Instead of making the note, half, you gave him $17,000. 255 00:11:28,066 --> 00:11:29,367 - [John Joseph] Yes, You Honor. - I don't understand that. 256 00:11:29,433 --> 00:11:32,367 So, in order to run the business for Nathan, 257 00:11:32,433 --> 00:11:34,767 he needed more than just one set 258 00:11:34,834 --> 00:11:37,133 and so he had to go out and buy new sets. 259 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,800 And so, I gave him an additional 17,000 when I sold it. 260 00:11:39,867 --> 00:11:42,467 [Judge Judy] That--yeah. Well, that is not my problem, sir. 261 00:11:42,533 --> 00:11:45,165 That is your convoluted business arrangement with him. 262 00:11:45,233 --> 00:11:46,734 But your loan agreement, 263 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,600 the collateral for the $30,000 of the two jet skis. 264 00:11:50,667 --> 00:11:51,600 [John Joseph] Yes, Your Honor. 265 00:11:51,667 --> 00:11:53,667 Any, uh, WaveRunners he bought after that 266 00:11:53,734 --> 00:11:55,700 would also be under collateral. 267 00:11:55,767 --> 00:11:57,300 If you look at the collateral, it will... 268 00:11:57,367 --> 00:12:00,500 [Judge Judy] Oh, that's okay. But at this time, he hadn't bought any? 269 00:12:00,567 --> 00:12:04,300 At this time, at the time of this loan agreement, (chuckles) 270 00:12:04,367 --> 00:12:07,000 - which was for $30,000... - [John Joseph] Yeah. 271 00:12:07,066 --> 00:12:09,633 ...you had the collateral for this 272 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:12,834 loan agreement was the two-- are they Kawasaki, 273 00:12:12,900 --> 00:12:14,367 - is that what they are? - Yes, sir--ma'am. 274 00:12:14,433 --> 00:12:17,133 [Judge Judy] Jet Skis, absolutely no way for me to determine 275 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,567 what was damaged and what was not I saw. 276 00:12:19,633 --> 00:12:23,433 It was clear that these were scratched up when he picked them up. 277 00:12:23,500 --> 00:12:27,433 Now, according to you, missing--damaged jet skis. 278 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:30,200 Forget that, loss of revenue, forget that. 279 00:12:30,266 --> 00:12:31,433 They were scratched already. 280 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:33,834 Missing equipment. Okay. 281 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:35,600 What equipment was missing? 282 00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:38,266 Life jackets, and a gas can, 283 00:12:38,333 --> 00:12:41,500 and then there's a rod that carries the gas can. 284 00:12:41,567 --> 00:12:43,300 They took that rod as well. 285 00:12:43,367 --> 00:12:44,467 Well, I don't know who took it. 286 00:12:44,533 --> 00:12:46,700 - [John Joseph] Yeah. - They, they would have no use for that. 287 00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:48,066 Yes, Your Honor. 288 00:12:48,133 --> 00:12:49,066 [Judge Judy] Uh, do you know what I mean, Mr. Robinson? 289 00:12:49,133 --> 00:12:50,000 - Yeah. - [Judge Judy] They would have 290 00:12:50,066 --> 00:12:51,734 no use of it. So, life jackets. 291 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,533 And how many life jackets did you provide? 292 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:55,500 Six. 293 00:12:55,567 --> 00:12:57,934 [Judge Judy] Mr. Rigby, were there life jackets? 294 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,667 [Steven] No. No life jackets, Your Honor. 295 00:12:59,734 --> 00:13:00,800 [Judge Judy] You had your own life jackets? 296 00:13:00,867 --> 00:13:01,900 We had our own life jackets. 297 00:13:01,967 --> 00:13:03,700 [Judge Judy] Was your wife with you? 298 00:13:03,767 --> 00:13:05,133 Not when I picked 'em up, no. 299 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,767 - [Judge Judy] Okay. But... - She's my fiancee, Your Honor. 300 00:13:08,834 --> 00:13:10,200 Nice. Good for you. 301 00:13:10,867 --> 00:13:13,667 Um, Mr. Robinson 302 00:13:13,734 --> 00:13:15,066 [John Joseph] Yes, Your Honor. 303 00:13:15,133 --> 00:13:18,266 [Judge Judy] You told me earlier, I believe--Whitney, 304 00:13:18,333 --> 00:13:21,900 I believe Mr. Robinson said earlier that he closed down his business 305 00:13:21,967 --> 00:13:24,900 right after this incident, is that correct? 306 00:13:24,967 --> 00:13:27,600 On April sold it in July. 307 00:13:27,667 --> 00:13:29,900 [Whitney] He said, "After I bought them, I sold the business. 308 00:13:29,967 --> 00:13:34,433 I couldn't handle it in, uh, April of 2021." 309 00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:38,266 - That's when he bought it? - Yeah, until July of 2021. 310 00:13:38,333 --> 00:13:40,967 [Judge Judy] And his rental was the end of July 311 00:13:41,033 --> 00:13:46,200 because it was the 23rd and you had two jet skis at that time? 312 00:13:46,266 --> 00:13:47,533 - Yes, Your Honor. - [Judge Judy] And then, 313 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:52,400 you entered into this agreement on the 27th of July with Nathan, 314 00:13:52,467 --> 00:13:56,567 in which you secured as collateral the life jackets. 315 00:13:56,633 --> 00:13:58,200 [John Joseph] I bought--I bought him more life jackets... 316 00:13:58,266 --> 00:13:59,500 [Judge Judy] So, what you just-- so what--just a second. 317 00:13:59,567 --> 00:14:00,567 ...Your Honor. 318 00:14:00,667 --> 00:14:02,900 [Judge Judy] So, what you want me to believe and-- 319 00:14:02,967 --> 00:14:05,800 well, I'll believe if you show me a bill, 320 00:14:05,867 --> 00:14:10,266 that between the 24th and the 27th, 321 00:14:10,333 --> 00:14:12,467 you bought new life jackets? 322 00:14:12,533 --> 00:14:14,700 - Yes, Your Honor. I, I did. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 323 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:19,633 You wanna see your signature? 324 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:21,266 - You gotta get your story straight. - Yes. 325 00:14:21,333 --> 00:14:23,800 [Judge Judy] Do you understand? You gotta get your story straight. 326 00:14:23,867 --> 00:14:26,100 The first thing that you have to do when you come with a witness 327 00:14:26,166 --> 00:14:27,767 is get your story straight. 328 00:14:33,700 --> 00:14:35,934 [theme music playing] 329 00:14:39,967 --> 00:14:43,834 [announcer] John Robinson is accusing defendant Steven Rigby 330 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:47,066 of renting two of his jet skis and damaging them. 331 00:14:47,133 --> 00:14:49,200 Steven claims they were already damaged 332 00:14:49,266 --> 00:14:51,767 and one jet ski didn't even work. 333 00:14:51,834 --> 00:14:54,467 So, what you want me to believe and-- 334 00:14:54,533 --> 00:14:56,967 well, I'll believe if you show me a bill 335 00:14:57,033 --> 00:15:01,200 that between the 24th and the 27th, 336 00:15:01,266 --> 00:15:03,734 you bought new life jackets? 337 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,367 [John Joseph] Yes, Your Honor. In addition, I did want to say. 338 00:15:06,433 --> 00:15:09,233 He actually ended up taking the WaveRunners 339 00:15:09,300 --> 00:15:10,700 without anyone being there. 340 00:15:10,767 --> 00:15:12,800 Like you said, he, he missed the appointment. 341 00:15:12,867 --> 00:15:15,700 He wasn't--he told him he's gonna be there at 10:00 o'clock. 342 00:15:15,767 --> 00:15:18,867 But he showed up really early and took the WaveRunners 343 00:15:18,934 --> 00:15:21,600 without signing agreement, without calling me. 344 00:15:21,667 --> 00:15:24,433 And then, at that point, that's why we had to report it 345 00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:27,500 to the police because he took the WaveRunners 346 00:15:27,567 --> 00:15:31,400 without signing the rental agreement or paying full for them. 347 00:15:31,467 --> 00:15:33,233 So, in this text here... 348 00:15:33,333 --> 00:15:34,233 [Judge Judy] No text. 349 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:37,066 I wanna see a bill from a sporting goods store 350 00:15:37,133 --> 00:15:40,233 for life jackets between the 23rd 351 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:44,767 or the 24th of July and the 27th of July. 352 00:15:45,967 --> 00:15:48,500 [John Joseph] So, Nathan bought 'em, and then I've Venmoed him. 353 00:15:48,567 --> 00:15:51,300 Do you want-- do you have that on your phone? 354 00:15:51,367 --> 00:15:54,133 So, I've--so I can show that I Venmoed you. 355 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,633 It was an eBay purchase. 356 00:15:55,700 --> 00:15:56,900 [Judge Judy] I don't care about eBay. 357 00:15:56,967 --> 00:16:00,100 I wanna see a receipt for life jackets 358 00:16:00,166 --> 00:16:01,734 between those two dates 359 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:06,233 prior to July 27th and after July 24th. 360 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:08,200 [John Joseph] So, here's a Venmo of me 361 00:16:08,266 --> 00:16:10,400 Venmoing him for those life jackets. 362 00:16:10,467 --> 00:16:13,633 Nathan's gonna have to get me where he bought them. 363 00:16:13,700 --> 00:16:15,300 Right here. Let's see. 364 00:16:15,367 --> 00:16:17,066 [Judge Judy] And the date he bought them. 365 00:16:26,266 --> 00:16:30,900 You bought one Exxel blue universal adult-sized life jackets, 366 00:16:30,967 --> 00:16:32,300 is that right? 367 00:16:32,367 --> 00:16:35,133 Yes. It was-- it was a pack of four or five. 368 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,567 - For $59. - [Nathan] I don't remember, yeah. 369 00:16:38,633 --> 00:16:39,867 [Judge Judy] I don't remember. Okay. 370 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:44,000 You didn't take any life jackets? 371 00:16:44,066 --> 00:16:45,000 No life jackets, Your Honor. 372 00:16:45,066 --> 00:16:47,000 [Judge Judy] Okey-dokey. You have a counterclaim. 373 00:16:47,066 --> 00:16:50,400 How much of a deposit did you give to the plaintiff? 374 00:16:50,467 --> 00:16:51,533 Nine hundred dollars. 375 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,400 On what date did you take the WaveRunners? 376 00:16:54,467 --> 00:16:55,700 On the 23rd. 377 00:16:55,767 --> 00:16:57,834 [Judge Judy] I see that you dropped them off someplace. 378 00:16:57,900 --> 00:17:01,500 [Steven] We dropped 'em off back at the Marina at Antelope. 379 00:17:01,567 --> 00:17:04,800 He told us, we could no longer use the WaveRunners. 380 00:17:04,867 --> 00:17:06,500 So, we had to haul 'em all the way back 381 00:17:06,567 --> 00:17:08,500 to the Marina and that was on the 25th. 382 00:17:08,567 --> 00:17:13,567 And tell me what happened with the pickup, the exchange? 383 00:17:13,633 --> 00:17:17,000 Nathan over here, who I'm not interested 384 00:17:17,066 --> 00:17:18,233 in their business arrangements. 385 00:17:18,300 --> 00:17:20,333 It's all sounds a little sketchy to me. 386 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,633 He was out of town, Nathan was supposed to make 387 00:17:22,700 --> 00:17:25,000 the exchange with you, give you the paperwork. 388 00:17:25,066 --> 00:17:28,467 You were supposed to pay the balance on the 23rd, correct? 389 00:17:28,532 --> 00:17:29,567 - Correct. - [Judge Judy] And what time 390 00:17:29,633 --> 00:17:30,734 were you supposed to meet him? 391 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,367 [Steven] I got a text message from John Joseph about a week before. 392 00:17:35,433 --> 00:17:38,200 I've been up to his house. I went up and inspected the WaveRunners. 393 00:17:38,266 --> 00:17:41,233 I had seen what they looked like and they looked--they were brand new. 394 00:17:41,300 --> 00:17:42,633 I was really impressed. 395 00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:45,300 A week before we were to pick 'em up, before July 4th, 396 00:17:45,367 --> 00:17:47,133 it was on July 17th, 397 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,066 he sends me a text sayin', "I'm outta town. 398 00:17:50,133 --> 00:17:52,333 You're gonna have to pick 'em up in Murray." 399 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,633 He didn't give me a name. 400 00:17:53,700 --> 00:17:54,767 He gave me an address. 401 00:17:54,834 --> 00:17:56,834 I've got the text that he sent me. 402 00:17:56,900 --> 00:17:59,133 - I'm gonna look at it. - [Steven] I--you wanna look at it? 403 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,100 [Judge Judy] Yeah. 404 00:18:02,133 --> 00:18:03,333 Thank you. 405 00:18:07,867 --> 00:18:10,600 So, you had been to see them and they were brand new when you saw them? 406 00:18:10,667 --> 00:18:13,367 When I went--that was back in April, they were brand new. Yes. 407 00:18:13,433 --> 00:18:15,367 And then we move forward to the end of July? 408 00:18:15,433 --> 00:18:18,000 [Steven] Right. So, that's the text he sent me to pick 'em up. 409 00:18:18,066 --> 00:18:19,767 - [Judge Judy] Okay. - [Steven] No--you can see no name. 410 00:18:19,834 --> 00:18:22,700 No, nothin'. I tried callin' him-- 411 00:18:22,767 --> 00:18:24,166 well, at first, I said, "Thanks." 412 00:18:24,233 --> 00:18:26,734 The next day I called him 'cause I wanted to talk to him 413 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,000 of what am I supposed to do? 414 00:18:28,066 --> 00:18:29,533 Who am I supposed to talk to? 415 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,900 Well, what he does on his phone, it goes to voicemail 416 00:18:32,967 --> 00:18:34,567 and then it says my voicemail is full. 417 00:18:34,633 --> 00:18:36,834 You can't leave any messages on his phone. 418 00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:39,700 So, what I did is I called rental. 419 00:18:39,767 --> 00:18:41,967 I don't remember who I talked to. 420 00:18:42,033 --> 00:18:43,500 I says, "Hey, I'm pickin' up..." 421 00:18:43,567 --> 00:18:45,333 [Judge Judy] You can't--you can't tell me what they said to you. 422 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,266 [Steven] Oh. 423 00:18:46,333 --> 00:18:49,233 No, I mean, I told them, "I was picking up some WaveRunners 424 00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:51,033 that was John Joseph Robinson's. 425 00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:52,567 Are you gonna have 'em there?" 426 00:18:52,633 --> 00:18:53,500 - And he said... - [Judge Judy] But here, 427 00:18:53,567 --> 00:18:55,000 - you can't tell me what he said. - [Steven] Oh, okay. 428 00:18:55,066 --> 00:18:56,433 - You went there? - I went. 429 00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:59,734 [Judge Judy] Did you ever make an appointment with Nathan over here? 430 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,567 [Steven] Never. Never. 431 00:19:01,633 --> 00:19:03,500 I didn't know who to talk to. 432 00:19:03,567 --> 00:19:05,233 Uh, when I talked to him down there... 433 00:19:05,300 --> 00:19:06,333 Stand up, Nathan. 434 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,567 Tell me when you had, Nathan, a conversation with the defendant. 435 00:19:09,633 --> 00:19:11,400 Listen to me, then you're gonna show me on your phone, 436 00:19:11,467 --> 00:19:14,567 the day that you had the conversation with him, okay? 437 00:19:14,633 --> 00:19:16,433 On what date--take out your phone. 438 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:17,600 - Your Honor... - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 439 00:19:17,667 --> 00:19:18,700 Take out your phone. 440 00:19:18,767 --> 00:19:21,333 Now, tell me, on what date 441 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,000 you had a conversation with Mr. Rigby? 442 00:19:24,066 --> 00:19:26,667 [Nathan] Your Honor, it wasn't on my phone that the conversation happened. 443 00:19:26,734 --> 00:19:27,800 It was on whose phone? 444 00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:30,367 [Nathan] When he called rental the day 445 00:19:30,433 --> 00:19:32,600 before to ask how to pick them up, 446 00:19:32,667 --> 00:19:34,700 I happened to be there at that time. 447 00:19:34,767 --> 00:19:36,600 And the guy there... 448 00:19:36,667 --> 00:19:38,667 [Judge Judy] You can't tell me what he said. 449 00:19:38,734 --> 00:19:40,500 - As you're saying... - [Nathan] Gave me the phone. 450 00:19:40,567 --> 00:19:43,100 He gave me the phone and I personally talked to him, 451 00:19:43,166 --> 00:19:46,433 and I told him, "Meet me at 11:00." 452 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:50,500 [Judge Judy] Just a second. So, you told him to meet you at 11:00? 453 00:19:50,567 --> 00:19:52,133 - Yes, Your Honor. - [Judge Judy] Is that right? 454 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,200 Okay. 455 00:19:53,266 --> 00:19:58,233 Let me tell you what your partner over here swore to in his complaint. 456 00:19:58,300 --> 00:19:59,633 Let me tell you what he swore to. 457 00:19:59,700 --> 00:20:03,934 "Since I was out of town, I left the jet skis, gear, and trailer 458 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,734 at a third party's house," 459 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,967 which was not-- so, you left it at a launching yard. 460 00:20:09,033 --> 00:20:11,567 "Nathan, my witness was to meet Steven," 461 00:20:11,633 --> 00:20:14,266 that would be you, "at 10:00 a.m." 462 00:20:14,333 --> 00:20:15,600 You wanna see your signature? 463 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,300 - You gotta get your story straight. - [John Joseph] Yeah. Yeah. 464 00:20:18,367 --> 00:20:20,734 Do you understand? You gotta get your story straight. 465 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,033 The first thing that you have to do when you come with a witness 466 00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:25,834 is get your story straight! 467 00:20:25,900 --> 00:20:28,100 You owe him his $900 back. 468 00:20:28,166 --> 00:20:29,133 Is that what you paid him? 469 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,066 That's what I paid him. 470 00:20:30,133 --> 00:20:31,033 [Judge Judy] That's what you're getting back. 471 00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:32,100 Your case is dismissed. 472 00:20:32,166 --> 00:20:34,133 Judgment on the counterclaim for $900. 473 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,200 - Thank you very much. - Thank you, Judge. 474 00:20:35,266 --> 00:20:36,700 - [Judge Judy] We're done. - [Kevin] Court is adjourned. 475 00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:41,100 I thought he, he was a good guy but, but obviously not. 476 00:20:41,166 --> 00:20:43,700 I think Judge Judy is spot on. 477 00:20:43,767 --> 00:20:45,266 I called the police because he never signed 478 00:20:45,333 --> 00:20:47,233 - the rental agreement. - Am I supposed to sign somethin'? 479 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:49,066 Am I supposed to-- am I supposed to pay you guys? 480 00:20:49,133 --> 00:20:49,967 They says, "No." 481 00:20:50,033 --> 00:20:51,600 They abandoned 'em in a parking lot. 482 00:20:51,667 --> 00:20:52,934 I love Judge Judy. 483 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,834 [Sarah] I learned a good lesson from that case. 484 00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:59,700 The defendant did a great job taking a video with a timestamp 485 00:20:59,767 --> 00:21:03,433 before he even took the jet skis off of the plaintiff's property 486 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:05,266 or wherever he had left them. 487 00:21:05,333 --> 00:21:07,200 And I think that's a good lesson for everybody before 488 00:21:07,266 --> 00:21:09,767 you lend someone, even a friend anything of yours, 489 00:21:09,834 --> 00:21:13,834 you know, take a photo or two, just so you have a time stamped, verified, 490 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:15,700 uh, document that you could show in court 491 00:21:15,767 --> 00:21:17,900 just like the defendant did here. 492 00:21:17,967 --> 00:21:20,100 So we did our job today. You learned something. 493 00:21:20,166 --> 00:21:21,300 - We did. - [Judge Judy] Perfect. 494 00:21:23,533 --> 00:21:24,667 [announcer] Want justice? 495 00:21:24,734 --> 00:21:27,033 Go to JudyJustice.tv. 496 00:21:31,934 --> 00:21:34,934 [theme music playing]