1 00:00:00,266 --> 00:00:02,934 We, uh, got into an argument and we'd broken up. 2 00:00:03,734 --> 00:00:05,300 Tell me what the argument was about. 3 00:00:05,367 --> 00:00:06,700 It was me drinking. 4 00:00:06,767 --> 00:00:08,333 [Judge Judy] Did he come home drunk? 5 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,467 [Ashley] Yes, ma'am. I told him he had thirty days 6 00:00:10,533 --> 00:00:13,400 to move out if he could not come in the house drinking 7 00:00:13,467 --> 00:00:14,834 and that lasted about five days. 8 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:16,633 - You have a child? - That is correct. 9 00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:18,767 - How old is your child? - She is eight. 10 00:00:18,834 --> 00:00:21,066 [announcer] This is Judy Justice. 11 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,000 [theme music playing] 12 00:00:38,467 --> 00:00:41,667 [announcer] Ashley Ford and her mother, Glenda Bruner, 13 00:00:41,734 --> 00:00:44,066 are suing Ashley's ex-boyfriend, 14 00:00:44,133 --> 00:00:46,400 Chad Tennyson, for travel cost 15 00:00:46,467 --> 00:00:48,867 and his share of a vacation package. 16 00:00:49,667 --> 00:00:51,367 [Kevin] Court come to order. All rise. 17 00:00:52,667 --> 00:00:53,667 Have a seat, please. 18 00:00:53,734 --> 00:00:55,333 [Kevin] Good morning, Judge. 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,500 - Good morning, Kevin. - Case number 1117. 20 00:00:57,567 --> 00:00:59,166 Ford, Burner versus Tennyson. 21 00:00:59,233 --> 00:01:00,500 - Thank you. - You're welcome. 22 00:01:00,567 --> 00:01:03,100 - [Judge Judy] Your last name is Ford? - Yes, Your Honor. 23 00:01:03,166 --> 00:01:04,500 - [Judge Judy] This is your mom? - Yes. 24 00:01:04,567 --> 00:01:08,667 And she's technically here because she paid for some part of a trip? 25 00:01:08,734 --> 00:01:10,367 - That is correct, yes. - You could sit down from... 26 00:01:10,433 --> 00:01:11,300 [Glenda] Thank you. 27 00:01:12,633 --> 00:01:16,300 You two dated for a relatively short period of time. 28 00:01:16,367 --> 00:01:18,100 During that short period of time, 29 00:01:18,166 --> 00:01:20,100 you did one of the most foolish things 30 00:01:20,166 --> 00:01:22,333 that people do when they're just dating, 31 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,367 sort of feels as if it brings them together, 32 00:01:25,433 --> 00:01:28,500 you bought what I used to call a timeshare. 33 00:01:28,567 --> 00:01:30,533 But this really isn't a timeshare. 34 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,934 It's called a vacation package. 35 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,533 - That's what I read. - That is correct. 36 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:39,100 [Judge Judy] You bought it for two years from July of 2019 to July 2021. 37 00:01:39,166 --> 00:01:41,567 - Uh-hmm. Yes. - And you're going to explain to me 38 00:01:41,633 --> 00:01:44,166 what it is that you get for that, you know, 39 00:01:44,233 --> 00:01:45,900 I allowed my mind to float 40 00:01:45,967 --> 00:01:48,934 and it sort of suggested to me that they had several places 41 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,366 around the country where you could go 42 00:01:52,433 --> 00:01:55,300 and have a vacation and pay something, 43 00:01:55,366 --> 00:01:57,500 but you knew you were going to get that space, 44 00:01:57,567 --> 00:02:00,567 that particular--one bedroom or two bedrooms, whatever it was, 45 00:02:00,633 --> 00:02:03,867 and they were nice places, places that you wouldn't ordinarily go. 46 00:02:03,934 --> 00:02:06,266 So far, is that relatively what it is? 47 00:02:06,333 --> 00:02:07,967 - Yes, basically. - Yes. 48 00:02:08,032 --> 00:02:09,567 Anyway, to make a long story short, 49 00:02:09,633 --> 00:02:12,500 the vacation package lasted longer than the relationship, 50 00:02:12,567 --> 00:02:14,934 which is usually the problem. 51 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,834 And then there was a whole kerfuffle about who paid 52 00:02:19,900 --> 00:02:22,667 and a trip that you were supposed to take 53 00:02:22,734 --> 00:02:24,333 that you say he canceled, 54 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,800 and that you had to make alternative arrangements 55 00:02:26,867 --> 00:02:28,500 and you didn't have enough money. 56 00:02:28,567 --> 00:02:30,966 So that's where your mother came in. 57 00:02:31,033 --> 00:02:34,000 She paid part of the cost of that trip. 58 00:02:34,066 --> 00:02:37,100 So, she wants to be reimbursed 'cause you all say that's his fault. 59 00:02:37,166 --> 00:02:39,100 He says me, I didn't do anything. 60 00:02:39,166 --> 00:02:40,200 Nothing. 61 00:02:40,266 --> 00:02:44,100 Okay. So let's start with once upon a time. 62 00:02:44,166 --> 00:02:47,200 Once upon a time you met when, where, and how? 63 00:02:47,266 --> 00:02:50,533 We started talking in the end of May 2018. 64 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,900 We met about a week later, June 8th, 2018. 65 00:02:54,966 --> 00:02:56,466 [Judge Judy] At the time you met, 66 00:02:56,533 --> 00:02:58,767 you were living in your own home, you have a child? 67 00:02:58,834 --> 00:03:00,600 - That is correct. Yes. - [Judge Judy] How old is your child? 68 00:03:00,667 --> 00:03:02,767 - She is eight. - And you, sir, where were you living? 69 00:03:02,834 --> 00:03:04,333 - [Chad] In Benville. - [Judge Judy] By yourself? 70 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,000 - Yes. - [Ashley] That's not correct, Your Honor. 71 00:03:06,066 --> 00:03:07,734 He is living with his mother. 72 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,166 Well, she has Alzheimer's and I take care of her. 73 00:03:10,233 --> 00:03:12,934 - You were living in her house? - My house. I was taking care of her. 74 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,033 Is the house owned by your mother or you? 75 00:03:15,100 --> 00:03:18,333 No, me. It was just a rental home that she lived with me. 76 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,033 - [Ashley] And she paid the bills for it. - [Judge Judy] Oh. 77 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:21,667 - Sorry, sorry. - [Judge Judy] Don't do that again. 78 00:03:21,734 --> 00:03:24,867 Was that what you did as a full-time job, 79 00:03:24,934 --> 00:03:27,266 - to take of your mom? - Yeah. At that time, yes. 80 00:03:27,333 --> 00:03:30,567 [Judge Judy] When did you first go on vacation 81 00:03:30,633 --> 00:03:32,000 when you bought this package? 82 00:03:32,066 --> 00:03:35,667 For the package, the first time that I used the vacation package? 83 00:03:35,734 --> 00:03:39,066 No, the first time you went to a place and bought the vacation. 84 00:03:39,133 --> 00:03:42,066 You went there in order to buy a vacation package. 85 00:03:42,133 --> 00:03:44,734 The week of July 14th, 2019. 86 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,000 You hadn't bought it at that time yet? 87 00:03:47,066 --> 00:03:48,767 - That is correct. - Right. 88 00:03:48,834 --> 00:03:50,500 [Judge Judy] Used to get these things all the time. 89 00:03:50,567 --> 00:03:53,934 Come, we'll give you a free weekend or a free night and then... 90 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,567 - That's how it started. - [Judge Judy] ...you go to a place 91 00:03:55,633 --> 00:03:58,867 and they put you in a room with a lot of other people. 92 00:03:58,934 --> 00:04:02,066 - [Ashley] Uh-huh. - And then they show you a video. 93 00:04:02,133 --> 00:04:03,867 I've had these cases before. 94 00:04:03,934 --> 00:04:05,266 And then before you leave, you say, 95 00:04:05,333 --> 00:04:08,000 "Oh, that would be so ideal if we could go travel together." 96 00:04:08,066 --> 00:04:09,934 Anyway, it's very good marketing. 97 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,767 And so on July 14th you decided to buy this package. 98 00:04:13,834 --> 00:04:16,233 Tell me about the cost of this vacation package, 99 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:18,000 tell me what the contract was. 100 00:04:18,065 --> 00:04:19,667 - Do you have the contract? - Yes, I do. 101 00:04:19,733 --> 00:04:20,800 [Judge Judy] I'd like to take a look at it. 102 00:04:20,867 --> 00:04:21,934 Yes, ma'am. 103 00:04:25,667 --> 00:04:26,567 Here you go. 104 00:04:35,567 --> 00:04:36,900 [Judge Judy] Uh, uh, uh. 105 00:04:36,967 --> 00:04:38,900 Did you read all this before you signed it by the way? 106 00:04:38,967 --> 00:04:40,500 - I'm just curious. - Not well enough. 107 00:04:40,567 --> 00:04:41,867 - [Judge Judy] I'm just curious. - No. 108 00:04:41,933 --> 00:04:44,266 [Judge Judy] I mean, everybody initialed every single thing, 109 00:04:44,332 --> 00:04:46,133 and then you both signed it. 110 00:04:46,933 --> 00:04:50,000 I just looked at this briefly. I'll have Sarah look at it over. 111 00:04:50,700 --> 00:04:53,667 How much did it cost for the two years? 112 00:04:53,734 --> 00:04:57,900 It would end up costing $4,235.20. 113 00:04:57,967 --> 00:05:01,200 So $4,200 for the both of you? 114 00:05:01,266 --> 00:05:02,200 - Yes, ma'am. - Yes. 115 00:05:02,266 --> 00:05:04,967 [Judge Judy] That you're obligated to pay monthly? 116 00:05:05,033 --> 00:05:07,100 - [Chad] Yes. - Now there's lots of stuff 117 00:05:07,166 --> 00:05:09,533 there with--points, you can use points, you get points. 118 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,300 So what did you get points for? 119 00:05:11,367 --> 00:05:13,633 So it was 400,000 points 120 00:05:13,700 --> 00:05:17,433 and then each resort and each night has a point value. 121 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:20,834 So if you go to a five-star place, you use so many points. 122 00:05:20,900 --> 00:05:24,100 If you go to a three-star place, you use so many points. 123 00:05:24,166 --> 00:05:25,867 - Basically, yes. - [Judge Judy] Is that what it is? 124 00:05:25,934 --> 00:05:28,332 - Yes. - How much do you pay monthly? 125 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,332 The payment is $107.84 for the contract. 126 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,567 - $107.84 a month for two years? - [Ashley] Uh-hmm. 127 00:05:36,633 --> 00:05:39,900 There's also--I'm sorry, there's also a thousand dollar 128 00:05:39,967 --> 00:05:43,000 deposit that was included in that. 129 00:05:43,066 --> 00:05:45,900 [Judge Judy] Okay. So I assume you paid the deposit. 130 00:05:45,967 --> 00:05:47,533 - [Chad] I did. - [Judge Judy] What? 131 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,300 - [Chad] I paid. - That is not correct. 132 00:05:49,367 --> 00:05:53,400 I assume, when I say you, the joint you paid the deposit. 133 00:05:53,467 --> 00:05:55,734 - Not that day, it was... - [Judge Judy] What day? 134 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:56,700 It was... 135 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,400 Came at later as a credit card. 136 00:06:00,467 --> 00:06:03,266 We were not aware that we were going to be getting 137 00:06:03,333 --> 00:06:05,734 a thousand dollar credit card that day. 138 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,333 So it wasn t explained that you were getting a credit card 139 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,934 and there were points and whatever. 140 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,133 I'm getting a headache. It's so much easier to call 141 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,500 and make a reservation at a hotel and say, 142 00:06:14,567 --> 00:06:16,533 "I feel like going on vacation today 143 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,100 or next week, or next month, 144 00:06:19,166 --> 00:06:20,467 or in two months." 145 00:06:20,533 --> 00:06:23,133 That's just my idea of freedom. 146 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,734 Understand this, people who choose to live together, 147 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,834 without benefit of marriage, should not engage 148 00:06:31,900 --> 00:06:33,667 in buying things jointly, 149 00:06:33,734 --> 00:06:36,433 a pet, a car, 150 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:39,367 a vacation package, anything, 151 00:06:39,433 --> 00:06:42,500 because 50% of the marriages in this country fail, 152 00:06:42,567 --> 00:06:45,967 and substantially more relationships fail. 153 00:06:50,700 --> 00:06:53,400 [theme music playing] 154 00:06:56,834 --> 00:07:00,900 [announcer] Ashley Ford blames her ex-boyfriend Chad Tennyson 155 00:07:00,967 --> 00:07:04,800 owes for travel cost and his share of a vacation package 156 00:07:04,867 --> 00:07:06,433 they purchased together. 157 00:07:06,500 --> 00:07:09,000 [Judge Judy] Okay. Who paid the deposit? 158 00:07:09,066 --> 00:07:10,266 You say you do. 159 00:07:10,333 --> 00:07:14,133 Tell me, Mr. Tennyson, how you paid the deposit of a thousand dollars. 160 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,934 I gave her the cash. 161 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,633 - [Judge Judy] When? - November. 162 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:20,200 - November of 2019. - Yes. 163 00:07:20,266 --> 00:07:22,967 [Judge Judy] Be very careful about this answer, Ms. Ford. 164 00:07:23,033 --> 00:07:25,400 Didn't Mr. Tennyson give you a thousand dollars? 165 00:07:25,467 --> 00:07:27,467 He did not give me a thousand dollars. 166 00:07:27,533 --> 00:07:29,600 - Did he give you any money? - [Ashley] Yes, he did. 167 00:07:29,667 --> 00:07:31,767 - How much? - That day that he's talking about? 168 00:07:31,834 --> 00:07:35,133 $600. Prior to that, he had deposited $80 169 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,332 into my bank account and another time 170 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,533 he had deposited $75 into my bank account. 171 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,066 Eighty and seventy-five, 172 00:07:42,767 --> 00:07:46,200 so five--so, so far, $755... 173 00:07:46,266 --> 00:07:47,400 - That is correct. - [Judge Judy] ...that he paid 174 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:48,734 - towards the deposit. - Yes, ma'am. 175 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,200 So you put in $245 towards the deposit. 176 00:07:52,266 --> 00:07:54,200 He paid $755? 177 00:07:54,266 --> 00:07:55,600 - That sounds about right. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 178 00:07:55,667 --> 00:07:57,367 Then you had it paid by month. 179 00:07:57,433 --> 00:07:59,066 For how many months did you pay? 180 00:07:59,133 --> 00:08:01,367 I have paid one--eleven months. 181 00:08:01,433 --> 00:08:03,133 [Judge Judy] So you paid for 11 months 182 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,467 and the obligation is now terminated? 183 00:08:06,533 --> 00:08:07,633 [Ashley] That is correct, yes. 184 00:08:07,700 --> 00:08:10,500 [Judge Judy] And the timeshare is over? 185 00:08:10,567 --> 00:08:13,934 - Yes, ma'am. - So, either somebody is getting sued 186 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,600 - or he paid the other months. - Yes, ma'am. 187 00:08:16,667 --> 00:08:18,433 - [Judge Judy] Which is it? - He paid the other months. 188 00:08:18,500 --> 00:08:20,667 - So he paid the other months? - [Ashley] Yes, ma'am. 189 00:08:20,734 --> 00:08:23,667 - [Judge Judy] So he paid 13 months. - Yes, ma'am. 190 00:08:23,734 --> 00:08:25,467 And the majority of the deposit? 191 00:08:25,533 --> 00:08:27,934 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] In what month and year 192 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,400 did the two of you break up? 193 00:08:29,467 --> 00:08:33,567 July 2019, about six days after. 194 00:08:33,633 --> 00:08:35,734 So now the member ship is paid up, 195 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:39,033 you paid less than he did for the deposit. 196 00:08:39,100 --> 00:08:41,834 - Yes, ma'am. - And you paid less than he did 197 00:08:41,900 --> 00:08:44,265 - for the membership... - Yes, ma'am. 198 00:08:44,333 --> 00:08:45,600 [Judge Judy] ...the annual membership. 199 00:08:45,667 --> 00:08:48,734 So now I'd like you tell me what you're suing him for. 200 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,600 - [Ashley] Absolutely. So... - [Judge Judy] Because your lawsuit says 201 00:08:52,667 --> 00:08:56,533 balance of vacation of package, $526. 202 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,633 [Ashley] That is the balance that was due after the May payment and the rate... 203 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:03,066 - Then you pay that. - I'll explain, I'm sorry. 204 00:09:03,133 --> 00:09:04,800 [Judge Judy] There's no explanation. 205 00:09:04,867 --> 00:09:07,400 Pay the majority of the... 206 00:09:07,467 --> 00:09:08,734 I wasn't supposed to pay anything. 207 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,400 After we broke up, I wanted to cancel the package. 208 00:09:11,467 --> 00:09:12,533 - [Judge Judy] You can... - We were within our-- 209 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,967 we were within our ten-day grace period that s in the contract. 210 00:09:14,033 --> 00:09:16,066 You--I guarantee you 211 00:09:16,133 --> 00:09:18,467 that you would not have canceled this package. 212 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:21,200 - I called and they stated that... - [Judge Judy] You can't tell me... 213 00:09:21,266 --> 00:09:24,200 - You're right. - [Judge Judy] If you can show me... 214 00:09:24,266 --> 00:09:28,533 It's--there's a ten-day termination window in the contract. 215 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:29,567 I'll look into it. 216 00:09:29,633 --> 00:09:31,133 [Judge Judy] While she's looking for that, 217 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,066 you broke up in July of 2019, 218 00:09:34,133 --> 00:09:37,667 the same month. How many times did you use the vacation package? 219 00:09:37,734 --> 00:09:39,333 A total? 220 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,467 Think carefully. How many times did you use... 221 00:09:42,533 --> 00:09:44,300 I was actually able to use it one time. 222 00:09:44,367 --> 00:09:46,400 [Judge Judy] How many times did you use it, sir? 223 00:09:46,467 --> 00:09:48,533 - Zero. - [Judge Judy] You have any information 224 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,967 that Mr. Tennyson used it all? 225 00:09:51,033 --> 00:09:52,934 [Ashley] He did not use it at all. He had said... 226 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,400 [Judge Judy] Don't tell me what he said. 227 00:09:54,467 --> 00:09:57,734 I'm still not getting what you're suing him for 228 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,100 because right now, you have no lawsuit that I'd be interested in. 229 00:10:01,166 --> 00:10:02,834 - [Ashley] I understand. - [Judge Judy] It appears to me 230 00:10:02,900 --> 00:10:07,066 that Mr. Tennyson has--had zero benefit. 231 00:10:07,133 --> 00:10:08,900 - He paid for 13 months. - [Ashley] Uh-hmm. 232 00:10:08,967 --> 00:10:11,166 He paid the majority of the deposit, 233 00:10:11,233 --> 00:10:15,400 so right now, I'm not seeing any basis for a lawsuit. 234 00:10:15,467 --> 00:10:17,734 [Ashley] So as I said, Your Honor, I wanted to cancel within the... 235 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,533 [Judge Judy] I don't care whether you did or not. You went on a vacation... 236 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,100 - So we--he said that... - You went on a vacation afterwards. 237 00:10:22,166 --> 00:10:24,100 [Ashley] He said he did not wanna cancel the package. 238 00:10:24,166 --> 00:10:26,967 He wanted to keep it and he was gonna be responsible for it. 239 00:10:27,033 --> 00:10:29,266 I have text messages and voicemails stating he was... 240 00:10:29,333 --> 00:10:31,834 [Judge Judy] Just a second. I would like to see-- 241 00:10:31,900 --> 00:10:34,333 if that's the case, unless he acknowledges, 242 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,867 did you say to her I wanna keep the package 243 00:10:36,934 --> 00:10:38,165 and I'll pay for the whole thing? 244 00:10:38,233 --> 00:10:41,934 Yeah. I said, yeah, I just wanna do it 50/50 'cause she couldn't afford it. 245 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,567 - [Ashley] That is not correct. - [Judge Judy] No, no, no. 246 00:10:43,633 --> 00:10:45,066 That's not what I asked you, sir. 247 00:10:45,133 --> 00:10:46,867 What I asked you, Mr. Tennyson, 248 00:10:46,934 --> 00:10:50,667 was did you say to her after you had broken up, 249 00:10:50,734 --> 00:10:53,633 within this cancelation period, 250 00:10:53,700 --> 00:10:58,165 did you say to her keep the package, I'll pay for the whole thing? 251 00:10:59,033 --> 00:11:00,600 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 252 00:11:00,667 --> 00:11:04,066 I'd like to see. What date did you break up, Mr. Tennyson? 253 00:11:04,133 --> 00:11:05,900 - Honestly, I don't even remember. - [Judge Judy] No, 254 00:11:05,967 --> 00:11:07,166 you have to remember. 255 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,400 You went on vacation on the 19th. 256 00:11:10,467 --> 00:11:11,767 - [Chad] A week later. - [Judge Judy] Where were you 257 00:11:11,834 --> 00:11:13,200 - when you broke up? - At the house. 258 00:11:13,266 --> 00:11:14,900 - [Judge Judy] At whose house? - Ashley's. 259 00:11:14,967 --> 00:11:16,100 - At her house? - [Chad] Yes. 260 00:11:16,166 --> 00:11:19,033 - Tell me what happened. - We, uh, got into an argument 261 00:11:19,100 --> 00:11:21,000 - and we'd broken up. I... - [Judge Judy] Well, tell me 262 00:11:21,066 --> 00:11:23,500 - what the argument was about. - It was me drinking. 263 00:11:23,567 --> 00:11:26,667 [Judge Judy] Okay. When you had that argument on the 29th, 264 00:11:26,734 --> 00:11:28,767 - you were fighting over his drinking? - Yes, ma'am. 265 00:11:28,834 --> 00:11:30,400 - [Judge Judy] Was he drunk? - Yes, ma'am. 266 00:11:30,467 --> 00:11:33,300 [Judge Judy] Okay. And did he come home drunk? 267 00:11:33,367 --> 00:11:34,767 Yes, ma'am. He came home drunk. 268 00:11:34,834 --> 00:11:36,500 [Judge Judy] So you told him he had to leave? 269 00:11:36,567 --> 00:11:38,900 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] He left the house 270 00:11:38,967 --> 00:11:43,467 within 15 days of your signing this contract. 271 00:11:43,533 --> 00:11:45,300 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] Now I'd like to see 272 00:11:45,367 --> 00:11:46,533 the text message. 273 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,000 [Ashley] There's just some of them right there I have. 274 00:11:49,066 --> 00:11:50,066 Just a second. 275 00:11:51,934 --> 00:11:55,233 [Sarah] Your Honor, there is a ten-day grace period, 276 00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:57,533 but it has to be submitted to Wyndham, 277 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,400 um, in writing of the intent to cancel. 278 00:12:01,233 --> 00:12:04,233 [Judge Judy] Okay. Listen, uh, this is in September. 279 00:12:04,300 --> 00:12:05,633 This is well after the cancelation period. 280 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:07,266 - [Ashley] Yes, there were no messages... - [Judge Judy] Yeah, okay. 281 00:12:07,333 --> 00:12:08,800 - ...exchanged right after then. - [Judge Judy] Right. 282 00:12:08,867 --> 00:12:11,066 - So he's paid for 13 months? - Yes, ma'am. 283 00:12:11,133 --> 00:12:15,133 And you paid for 11 and he paid for the majority of the deposit. 284 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,000 So I'm not entertaining that. 285 00:12:17,066 --> 00:12:19,433 What else do you think he's responsible for? 286 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:21,300 According to you, you went on a trip with your daughter 287 00:12:21,367 --> 00:12:23,233 and someone canceled a reservation. 288 00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:25,300 Yes. So, as I said... 289 00:12:25,367 --> 00:12:27,433 [Judge Judy makes sound] Understand this. 290 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:29,700 People who choose to live together 291 00:12:29,767 --> 00:12:31,400 without benefit of marriage 292 00:12:31,467 --> 00:12:34,767 should not engage in buying things jointly, 293 00:12:34,834 --> 00:12:37,233 a pet, a car, 294 00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:40,533 a vacation package, a timeshare, 295 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,266 a ring, a Picasso, 296 00:12:44,834 --> 00:12:48,734 anything, because 50% of the marriages in this country fail 297 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,233 and substantially more relationships fail. 298 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:54,567 So, you don't know somebody for a month 299 00:12:54,633 --> 00:12:57,133 and then go get a vacation package. 300 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,433 He did the right thing. He paid for at least half. 301 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:02,066 I'm not hearing any of it. Do you understand? 302 00:13:02,133 --> 00:13:03,367 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] Great. 303 00:13:03,433 --> 00:13:06,900 Now, you say that you and your daughter used the points again, 304 00:13:06,967 --> 00:13:09,934 you went once and you were using the points again from when to when? 305 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,967 I've scheduled it in February of 2021. 306 00:13:13,033 --> 00:13:16,533 Our vacation was supposed to be June 11th 307 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,967 through the 17th 2021. 308 00:13:19,033 --> 00:13:22,266 Okay. And what you say is on the way there, 309 00:13:22,333 --> 00:13:24,200 you were driving there with your daughter 310 00:13:24,266 --> 00:13:25,633 - to this vacation package. - That's correct. 311 00:13:25,700 --> 00:13:30,000 [Judge Judy] And you were advised once you got there that it was canceled? 312 00:13:30,066 --> 00:13:32,700 No, ma'am. As we were driving, um, my phone beeped. 313 00:13:32,767 --> 00:13:36,600 I looked it down and it was an email stating your reservation was canceled. 314 00:13:36,667 --> 00:13:38,834 I pulled over onto the side of the road, 315 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:40,133 I read the email. 316 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,700 It stated my reservation was canceled. 317 00:13:41,767 --> 00:13:43,133 - [Judge Judy] I'd like to see it. - Yes, ma'am. 318 00:13:45,867 --> 00:13:48,133 Email that I received and I'll go ahead and give you 319 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,600 the, uh, cancelation policy as well. 320 00:13:50,667 --> 00:13:52,900 No, no. Don't give me a cancelation policy. 321 00:13:52,967 --> 00:13:55,500 Just give me the email. 322 00:13:58,633 --> 00:14:02,600 Okay. So, your reservation, they said, had been canceled. 323 00:14:04,867 --> 00:14:08,967 Defendant so far has been-- so far has been a standup guy 324 00:14:09,033 --> 00:14:12,333 and paying for 13 months of a club he didn't use 325 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,400 that you used that he paid for, 326 00:14:15,467 --> 00:14:18,200 three quarters of the down payment, 327 00:14:18,266 --> 00:14:19,767 you paid a quarter of it. 328 00:14:19,834 --> 00:14:21,900 It doesn't sound to me as if he was a cad. 329 00:14:26,633 --> 00:14:29,700 [theme music playing] 330 00:14:33,300 --> 00:14:37,033 [announcer] Ashley Ford has accused her ex-boyfriend, 331 00:14:37,100 --> 00:14:40,667 Chad Tennyson, of canceling her vacation reservation 332 00:14:40,734 --> 00:14:42,300 the day it was starting. 333 00:14:42,367 --> 00:14:45,165 Chad claims that cancellation was a mistake 334 00:14:45,233 --> 00:14:46,734 made by the resort. 335 00:14:47,700 --> 00:14:51,600 Okay. So your reservation, they said, had been cancelled? 336 00:14:51,667 --> 00:14:55,633 Yes, ma'am. So I pulled over to the side of the road and I called. 337 00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:58,433 I said, "This is incorrect. We're actually on our way, we're driving." 338 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:00,266 You can't tell me what they said to you. 339 00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:01,767 [Ashley] Okay. That is fine. So... 340 00:15:01,834 --> 00:15:03,600 [Judge Judy] You got a notice that your reservation was canceled. 341 00:15:03,667 --> 00:15:05,400 Got a notice the reservation was canceled. 342 00:15:05,467 --> 00:15:07,133 I called and I asked what had happened. 343 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,600 - They told me--I won't tell you... - [Judge Judy] You can't... 344 00:15:08,667 --> 00:15:10,133 I won't--I won't tell you what they told me. 345 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,400 So that prompted me to call Mr. Tennyson. 346 00:15:13,467 --> 00:15:15,934 I asked him, can I tell you what he told me that first time? 347 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,433 - [Judge Judy] Absolutely. - Okay. And that's how... 348 00:15:17,500 --> 00:15:19,166 - He's here. He's a party. - [Ashley] Okay. 349 00:15:19,233 --> 00:15:21,600 - He can defend himself. - In that conversation, 350 00:15:21,667 --> 00:15:25,233 I asked him how he could cancel our vacation. 351 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:27,133 - We're on our way. - Do you remember a phone call 352 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,266 that you received from her on the road? 353 00:15:29,333 --> 00:15:31,166 - Yes, she called me. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 354 00:15:31,233 --> 00:15:33,700 I want you to relay to me the conversation. 355 00:15:33,767 --> 00:15:35,900 Be very careful to tell me the truth. 356 00:15:36,633 --> 00:15:39,533 Uh, she just accused me right off the bat of canceling 357 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,767 and if I would call Wyndham with her in, 358 00:15:42,834 --> 00:15:45,500 which I said--I didn't have a problem with doing that. 359 00:15:45,567 --> 00:15:48,333 - Did you call Wyndham with her? - No, 'cause she sent me 360 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,000 a text message just going straight into the attack on-- 361 00:15:52,066 --> 00:15:54,867 about cancellation. So I just--I didn't. 362 00:15:54,934 --> 00:15:58,333 Okay. Did you, Mr. Tennyson, 363 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,700 - cancel this reservation? - No. 364 00:16:00,767 --> 00:16:01,934 - He absolutely did. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 365 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,300 Did you know that Ms. Ford 366 00:16:05,367 --> 00:16:08,233 was going on a vacation and using the package? 367 00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:10,000 No. No, I hadn't. 368 00:16:10,066 --> 00:16:12,367 - You got no notice? - [Chad] No notice, no-- 369 00:16:12,433 --> 00:16:14,433 - I didn't know anything. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 370 00:16:14,500 --> 00:16:18,100 So the phone call that you got from her in June 371 00:16:18,166 --> 00:16:20,600 of this year was the first time 372 00:16:20,667 --> 00:16:22,300 you had spoken to her in how long? 373 00:16:22,367 --> 00:16:24,633 Six months, seven months. 374 00:16:24,700 --> 00:16:26,967 [Judge Judy] Okay. Now it's your obligation 375 00:16:27,033 --> 00:16:30,800 to show me proof that Mr. Tennyson canceled this reservation. 376 00:16:30,867 --> 00:16:33,200 [Ashley] Yes, ma'am. I said that I would give him a call back. 377 00:16:33,266 --> 00:16:35,800 I would call Wyndham and ask that he would stay 378 00:16:35,867 --> 00:16:37,266 by his phone and answer. 379 00:16:37,333 --> 00:16:39,734 I called shortly thereafter and he did not answer. 380 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,066 That is when I sent the text stating 381 00:16:42,133 --> 00:16:43,567 that he had canceled it 382 00:16:43,633 --> 00:16:46,834 or that I assumed he had canceled or was told. This is an email... 383 00:16:46,900 --> 00:16:50,000 [Judge Judy] Yeah. Just a second. You can't slip it in there. 384 00:16:50,066 --> 00:16:52,700 All I want from you is proof. 385 00:16:52,767 --> 00:16:55,967 He's been so far relatively honest with me. 386 00:16:56,033 --> 00:16:59,165 - And he's been relatively fair with you. - Yes, ma'am. 387 00:16:59,233 --> 00:17:02,066 He's paid for a vacation package, more than half of it, 388 00:17:02,133 --> 00:17:04,333 that he never used, you and your daughter 389 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,367 who are at least going to use it twice, 390 00:17:06,433 --> 00:17:10,300 so, so far, you know, aside from the fact that he had 391 00:17:10,367 --> 00:17:13,099 or hopefully had a drinking problem 392 00:17:13,165 --> 00:17:15,700 and no longer has it, that would be smart. 393 00:17:15,767 --> 00:17:17,700 I need non-hearsay proof 394 00:17:17,767 --> 00:17:20,133 that he canceled this reservation. 395 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,300 He says he did not. 396 00:17:21,367 --> 00:17:24,599 This is an email from Wyndham stating... 397 00:17:24,666 --> 00:17:27,066 - No, no, don't tell me what it stated. - Sorry, this is with a screen shot 398 00:17:27,133 --> 00:17:29,700 - from their system. - Don t, don't tell me what it says. 399 00:17:37,100 --> 00:17:39,600 Would you bring up your phone, please? 400 00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:44,400 Give the phone to Kevin. 401 00:17:45,834 --> 00:17:48,066 Kevin, would you hand that phone to Sarah? 402 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:56,133 Sarah, go to June 10th, 2021 5:18 PM. 403 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:01,166 It would be Wyndham Club reservation perhaps. 404 00:18:01,233 --> 00:18:03,333 The thing that's interesting to me, Ms. Ford, 405 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,033 is that according to what you've given me 406 00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:10,000 - at 5:18 PM... - Uh-hmm. 407 00:18:10,066 --> 00:18:13,533 ...they claim that the reservation was canceled. 408 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,467 You were supposed to check in on the 10th. 409 00:18:15,533 --> 00:18:16,967 - On the 11th. - [Judge Judy] 11th. 410 00:18:17,033 --> 00:18:20,033 And you had make this booking six months in advance. 411 00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:21,433 - [Ashley] Yes, ma'am. - So that was a long time. 412 00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:24,400 - [Ashley] Uh-hmm. - [Judge Judy] And within eight minutes... 413 00:18:24,467 --> 00:18:26,700 - Uh-hmm. - ...they contacted you. 414 00:18:26,767 --> 00:18:28,066 [Ashley] I contacted them. 415 00:18:28,133 --> 00:18:30,834 Because you had received a cancelation notice. 416 00:18:30,900 --> 00:18:32,834 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] So within eight minutes... 417 00:18:32,900 --> 00:18:35,333 - Yes, ma'am. - ...of him allegedly calling them, 418 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,100 they notified you that the reservation 419 00:18:39,166 --> 00:18:40,967 has been canceled. You said, "Hold it, 420 00:18:41,033 --> 00:18:43,066 I didn't cancel that reservation." 421 00:18:43,133 --> 00:18:47,200 And the club said to you, "I'm sorry, we already gave away that room." 422 00:18:47,266 --> 00:18:49,500 - [Ashley] Yes, ma'am. - That sounds suspect to me 423 00:18:49,567 --> 00:18:52,633 unless I can find something here 424 00:18:53,433 --> 00:18:54,967 from his email account. 425 00:18:55,033 --> 00:18:56,266 It is... 426 00:18:57,166 --> 00:19:00,200 beyond my imagination 427 00:19:00,266 --> 00:19:02,166 that within nine minutes 428 00:19:02,233 --> 00:19:04,166 of receiving this cancelation 429 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,567 contacting you all in that nine-minute period 430 00:19:07,633 --> 00:19:09,633 saying this reservation has been canceled, 431 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:12,367 you pulling over, calling them immediately 432 00:19:12,433 --> 00:19:14,734 saying this is all a mistake, 433 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,266 - that they gave away your accommodations. - And I can't tell you 434 00:19:18,333 --> 00:19:20,100 - what they told me, can I? - [Judge Judy] Just a second. I--no. 435 00:19:20,166 --> 00:19:21,934 You cannot tell me what they told you 436 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,900 because, unless she can find something in there, 437 00:19:25,967 --> 00:19:27,834 he's not responsible for your vacation. 438 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:29,767 I don't find what he's told me suspect. 439 00:19:29,834 --> 00:19:31,333 - But I... - [Judge Judy] If I can find 440 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,533 some communication with him, that's fine. 441 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:35,967 This is still hearsay and I don't have... 442 00:19:36,033 --> 00:19:37,800 - So why wouldn t I have gone to... - [Judge Judy] Why? 443 00:19:37,867 --> 00:19:39,266 - Why wouldn t I have gone? - [Judge Judy] Why? 444 00:19:39,333 --> 00:19:41,867 Because it has been somewhat of an experience 445 00:19:41,934 --> 00:19:45,834 between myself and family members 446 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:49,734 and friends who have these club arrangements, 447 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,600 things happen and there's double booking, 448 00:19:52,667 --> 00:19:55,000 there are problems with reservations. 449 00:19:55,700 --> 00:19:57,266 Defendant so far has been-- 450 00:19:57,333 --> 00:19:59,934 so far, has been a standup guy 451 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,467 and paying for 13 months of a club he didn't use, 452 00:20:03,533 --> 00:20:06,934 that you used, that he paid for three quarters 453 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,367 of the down payment, 454 00:20:09,433 --> 00:20:10,934 you paid a quarter of it. 455 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,367 It doesn t sound to me as if he was a cad. 456 00:20:13,433 --> 00:20:15,467 So, I'm not figuring out 457 00:20:15,533 --> 00:20:19,533 why somebody who hadn't spoken to you in six months 458 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,433 would call and cancel an upcoming reservation 459 00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:24,033 that he knew nothing about, 460 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:26,600 unless she can find something in his email, then, then I'm gonna stay... 461 00:20:26,667 --> 00:20:28,600 I can prove that he knew about the vacation, 462 00:20:28,667 --> 00:20:32,133 not necessarily that one, but whenever I booked the one in October, 463 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,700 I never told him about that. 464 00:20:33,767 --> 00:20:36,867 He knew about that because I have messages where he was telling me, 465 00:20:36,934 --> 00:20:39,900 - "Enjoy the vacation." - I'm not talking about in October. 466 00:20:39,967 --> 00:20:43,834 I'm talking about the following June. You hadn't spoken to him in six months. 467 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:46,600 Right. Your Honor, I can prove a history that he is spiteful 468 00:20:46,667 --> 00:20:49,333 - and that he is very vindictive and... - [Judge Judy] I don't care. 469 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,800 Madam, this is not Dr. Phil. It's a court. 470 00:20:52,867 --> 00:20:54,133 [Ashley] I understand. 471 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,000 [Judge Judy] And so far I don't find any of his conduct egregious 472 00:20:57,900 --> 00:21:00,100 or that he took financial advantage if you. 473 00:21:00,166 --> 00:21:03,633 [Sarah] There are emails from the 10th and the 11th, 474 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,633 but none regarding the vacation package. 475 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,633 [Judge Judy] Nothing on the 10th? 476 00:21:09,700 --> 00:21:12,600 And there are other emails there on the 10th? 477 00:21:12,667 --> 00:21:14,800 - Uh, yes. - Okay. 478 00:21:14,867 --> 00:21:17,266 Did you finally have a vacation with your daughter? 479 00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:19,400 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] Good. And you paid for it? 480 00:21:19,467 --> 00:21:20,667 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] Yes. 481 00:21:20,734 --> 00:21:23,133 Yeah, your case is dismissed. We're finished here. Thank you. 482 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,166 [Kevin] Court is adjourned. 483 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,600 He never takes responsibility for his actions. 484 00:21:28,667 --> 00:21:30,367 She has a right to how she feels. 485 00:21:30,433 --> 00:21:31,600 He denies everything. 486 00:21:31,667 --> 00:21:34,033 He is--constantly just insults, 487 00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:36,400 mean jabs, he's like a child whenever he's angry. 488 00:21:36,467 --> 00:21:37,800 Yeah, just a bunch of jabs. 489 00:21:37,867 --> 00:21:39,100 Just childish. 490 00:21:39,166 --> 00:21:42,266 Obviously, don't be stupid and go into any type of a contract 491 00:21:42,333 --> 00:21:43,967 with someone that you're not married to. 492 00:21:45,033 --> 00:21:48,433 [Sarah] That defendant had thousands of emails there. 493 00:21:48,500 --> 00:21:50,233 Scrolling through took a minute, 494 00:21:50,300 --> 00:21:53,100 but there was nothing from Wyndham, there was nothing from the date, 495 00:21:53,166 --> 00:21:55,867 and I agree with you that I don't think he would have gone through 496 00:21:55,934 --> 00:21:59,333 all of those emails as I did and delete just the one email. 497 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,567 [Judge Judy] I actually thought what he did, 498 00:22:01,633 --> 00:22:03,934 - continuing to pay without using... - [Sarah] Uh-hmm. 499 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,400 ...the program, knowing that she was using the program. 500 00:22:08,467 --> 00:22:10,166 - It was pretty reasonable. - [Sarah] Uh-hmm. 501 00:22:10,233 --> 00:22:12,000 [Judge Judy] The lesson is never learned. 502 00:22:12,734 --> 00:22:14,967 Don't buy a dog. 503 00:22:15,033 --> 00:22:17,500 Don't buy a vacation package, 504 00:22:17,567 --> 00:22:20,033 because you think it's gonna all bring you together. 505 00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:22,166 It's usually unsuccessful. 506 00:22:22,233 --> 00:22:25,633 It's kept me in business for a quarter of a century. 507 00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:27,934 But it's really not a smart thing to do. 508 00:22:29,633 --> 00:22:33,033 [announcer] Want justice? 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