1 00:00:00,734 --> 00:00:03,333 You hired the defendant as a wedding planner. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,533 Correct. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,567 [Judge Judy] Prior to the wedding, she quit. 4 00:00:06,633 --> 00:00:08,600 - That's not true. - I have facts. 5 00:00:08,667 --> 00:00:10,300 Did you have a written contract? 6 00:00:10,367 --> 00:00:12,166 - We did not. - We were good friends. 7 00:00:12,233 --> 00:00:14,166 - I just took her word. - That's a bad idea. 8 00:00:14,233 --> 00:00:16,800 - That's correct. - Don't tell me I'm correct. 9 00:00:16,867 --> 00:00:18,767 I'm always correct. 10 00:00:18,834 --> 00:00:20,400 [announcer] This is Judy Justice. 11 00:00:20,467 --> 00:00:23,467 [theme music playing 12 00:00:36,333 --> 00:00:39,367 [announcer] Jennifer Perry is suing her former friend 13 00:00:39,433 --> 00:00:42,233 and wedding coordinator, Carla Williams 14 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:44,367 for a refund for wedding planning services 15 00:00:44,433 --> 00:00:46,467 and the cost of decorations. 16 00:00:46,533 --> 00:00:48,500 [Kevin] Court come to order. All rise. 17 00:00:50,867 --> 00:00:51,800 Have a seat, please. 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,500 [Kevin] Hello, judge. 19 00:00:54,567 --> 00:00:57,400 Case 1104, Perry versus Williams. 20 00:00:57,467 --> 00:00:58,667 - Thank you. - You're welcome. 21 00:00:58,734 --> 00:01:01,266 [Judge Judy] Ms. Perry, you hire d the defendant 22 00:01:01,333 --> 00:01:03,433 as a wedding planner for your daughter's wedding. 23 00:01:03,500 --> 00:01:06,000 - That's correct. - You had known her before. 24 00:01:06,066 --> 00:01:08,700 We used to be coworkers about 20 years ago. 25 00:01:08,767 --> 00:01:11,867 We did have a friendship outside of work. Yes. 26 00:01:11,934 --> 00:01:14,100 [Judge Judy] Tell me when your daughter's wedding was scheduled. 27 00:01:14,166 --> 00:01:17,100 - June 12th of 2021. - So it took place? 28 00:01:17,166 --> 00:01:19,000 - It did. - That's your daughter. 29 00:01:19,066 --> 00:01:21,000 [Jennifer] No. She wasn't able to travel today. 30 00:01:21,066 --> 00:01:23,633 [Judge Judy] Okay. In what month did you hire the defendant? 31 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:25,967 November 29th of 2020. 32 00:01:26,033 --> 00:01:28,133 - Did you have a written contract? - We did not. 33 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,133 [Judge Judy] Is there any reason why you did not have a written contract? 34 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,100 - This is your business. - That's correct. 35 00:01:33,166 --> 00:01:35,734 And according to you, you've been in this business for a long time. 36 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,967 - That's correct. - [Judge Judy] Do you have a contract 37 00:01:38,033 --> 00:01:39,900 - with other clients? - Yes, ma'am. 38 00:01:39,967 --> 00:01:42,066 [Judge Judy] And is there any reason why you didn't have a contract 39 00:01:42,133 --> 00:01:44,233 - with the plaintiff? - I did. 40 00:01:44,300 --> 00:01:47,300 Well, because Jennifer and I are--well, we were good friends 41 00:01:47,366 --> 00:01:51,100 and um I just took her word, so and that's why we weren't... 42 00:01:51,166 --> 00:01:52,934 That's a bad idea, Ms. Williams. Of course, this is business. 43 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,100 - Yeah, exactly. - And if this is your business, 44 00:01:57,166 --> 00:01:59,366 - you're supposed to have a contract. - Correct. 45 00:01:59,433 --> 00:02:01,333 And you're supposed to have a contract. 46 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,300 You signed a venue for your daughter's wedding? 47 00:02:03,367 --> 00:02:04,266 Correct. 48 00:02:04,333 --> 00:02:05,233 [Judge Judy] Did you have a contract? 49 00:02:05,367 --> 00:02:07,033 - Yes, ma'am. - Did you have a caterer 50 00:02:07,100 --> 00:02:08,734 - for your daughter's wedding? - I believe so. 51 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,333 My daughter coordinated that with her father, but I believe so. 52 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,800 So, her father paid for the caterer? 53 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:13,767 Correct. 54 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:15,467 [Judge Judy] I have to assume there was a contract. 55 00:02:15,533 --> 00:02:17,400 - Unless you--her father does... - I would assume so as well. 56 00:02:17,466 --> 00:02:19,367 - I think you're correct. - [Judge Judy] What did you pay for? 57 00:02:19,433 --> 00:02:21,934 - I paid for Carla's services. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 58 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,100 - Okay. What else? - I paid for the decorations. 59 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,200 What else? 60 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:28,033 I helped with the bachelorette party. 61 00:02:28,133 --> 00:02:30,266 - That I don't care about. - Um primarily, Carla's service... 62 00:02:30,333 --> 00:02:32,066 [Judge Judy] I wanna know--Ms. Perry? 63 00:02:32,133 --> 00:02:33,033 Yes. 64 00:02:33,100 --> 00:02:36,333 [Judge Judy] Exactly what did you pay for? 65 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,200 - [Jennifer] I paid a lot. - You paid for the decorations. 66 00:02:38,266 --> 00:02:39,867 - Correct. - [Judge Judy] Which were according 67 00:02:39,934 --> 00:02:41,966 to what I read, maybe a couple of hundred bucks. 68 00:02:42,033 --> 00:02:44,100 What I paid for through Carla. Yes, ma'am. 69 00:02:44,166 --> 00:02:45,333 [Judge Judy] Was a couple of hundred bucks. 70 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,400 And the defendant's services were $1,100. 71 00:02:49,466 --> 00:02:51,000 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] How many people 72 00:02:51,066 --> 00:02:52,966 - were at the wedding? - Close to a hundred. 73 00:02:53,033 --> 00:02:54,900 - Was there a dinner? - There was. 74 00:02:54,966 --> 00:02:56,400 - At a venue? - Yes. 75 00:02:56,466 --> 00:02:58,500 - [Judge Judy] With music? - DJ. 76 00:02:58,767 --> 00:02:59,633 - [Judge Judy] DJ. - Uh-hmm. 77 00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:01,266 - Cake? - Yes. 78 00:03:01,333 --> 00:03:05,033 [Judge Judy] So, your contribution to this was $1,100. 79 00:03:05,100 --> 00:03:08,734 I'm just setting it clearly and you were supposed to provide 80 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,000 the wedding planner who would do the arrangement for flowers, 81 00:03:13,066 --> 00:03:15,000 who would arrange for a DJ. 82 00:03:15,066 --> 00:03:17,533 Okay. So it is your claim 83 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,466 that while you paid her $1,100, 84 00:03:20,533 --> 00:03:22,900 which I don't think you deny that she paid you $1,100. 85 00:03:22,966 --> 00:03:24,600 - Correct. - [Judge Judy] Prior to the wedding, 86 00:03:24,667 --> 00:03:28,966 you claimed she quit. The defendant says that you fired her. 87 00:03:29,033 --> 00:03:31,767 - That's not true. - That's what I'm here to find out. 88 00:03:31,834 --> 00:03:35,233 The total cost that Ms. Williams quoted you 89 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:37,500 for her services was how much? 90 00:03:37,567 --> 00:03:40,333 - The number changed. - [Judge Judy] Just a s-- 91 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,600 how much was the last number 92 00:03:43,667 --> 00:03:46,400 she quoted you for the job? 93 00:03:46,466 --> 00:03:48,966 - $1,100. - [Judge Judy] No. That's wrong. 94 00:03:49,033 --> 00:03:51,000 That's not true. Be careful what you say 95 00:03:51,066 --> 00:03:54,433 'cause at this point, we're not in a good place. 96 00:03:54,500 --> 00:03:58,567 She said she quoted you $3,882. 97 00:03:58,633 --> 00:04:00,266 [Jennifer] That was never provided to me. 98 00:04:00,333 --> 00:04:02,734 Never, never have I seen that number. 99 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:03,800 - This is the first time... - [Carla] That's not true. 100 00:04:03,867 --> 00:04:05,033 [Jennifer] ...I'm hearing of that number. 101 00:04:05,100 --> 00:04:06,533 [Judge Judy] Okay. Very good. 102 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,433 So, you tell me the number 103 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:14,066 that she quoted you to do the entire job. 104 00:04:14,133 --> 00:04:18,100 The entire job was $750 105 00:04:18,166 --> 00:04:21,100 and then it was going to be an additional $100 106 00:04:21,166 --> 00:04:23,433 t-to rent a love table that she had. 107 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:27,867 As we proceeded on, she tacked on an additional $230 108 00:04:27,934 --> 00:04:31,500 to cover the rental of additional items that my daughter wanted to use. 109 00:04:31,567 --> 00:04:35,700 Collectively, we came up at $1,100 to which she has been paid fully. 110 00:04:35,767 --> 00:04:39,700 [Judge Judy] Now, in going over what she was going to do, 111 00:04:39,767 --> 00:04:41,734 one of the things that she was going to do 112 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,734 was to hire a DJ that I assume 113 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,266 the bride's father was going to pay for 114 00:04:48,332 --> 00:04:51,066 or were you supposed to pay for the--just-- 115 00:04:51,133 --> 00:04:54,633 okay, very careful what you say to me because right now, Ms. Perry, 116 00:04:54,700 --> 00:04:57,967 you're doing that lilt from foot to foot 117 00:04:58,033 --> 00:04:59,667 which makes me a little uncomfortable. 118 00:04:59,734 --> 00:05:01,400 - Okay. Sorry. - [Judge Judy] Do you understand? 119 00:05:01,467 --> 00:05:03,300 - Yes. - No, it's an uncomfortable thing 120 00:05:03,367 --> 00:05:06,266 because you're trying to get where I'm going, 121 00:05:06,333 --> 00:05:09,600 which is not an easy place to get to 122 00:05:09,667 --> 00:05:11,633 because I have five children, 123 00:05:11,700 --> 00:05:14,166 all of whom have been married at least once 124 00:05:14,233 --> 00:05:17,667 and planned weddings and know what wedding planners do 125 00:05:17,734 --> 00:05:19,900 and what their function is. 126 00:05:19,967 --> 00:05:22,300 So, I've had experience. 127 00:05:22,367 --> 00:05:23,533 - Understood. - [Judge Judy] And the country 128 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,500 is pretty much the same. 129 00:05:25,567 --> 00:05:28,600 Ms. Williams' problem is she runs a business 130 00:05:28,667 --> 00:05:31,266 and she didn't do a contract, a written one. 131 00:05:31,332 --> 00:05:32,800 - Can I speak? - [Judge Judy] So what I asked you 132 00:05:32,867 --> 00:05:36,000 was very simply as part of your arrangement 133 00:05:36,066 --> 00:05:39,900 with your ex-husband who was paying for the wedding. 134 00:05:39,967 --> 00:05:41,332 - He was paying for some of... - [Judge Judy] Who was just-- 135 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,467 he was paying for the vast majority of the wedding. 136 00:05:45,533 --> 00:05:47,100 - That's not true. - [Judge Judy] According to you 137 00:05:47,166 --> 00:05:50,000 because he was paying for a hundred people for food. 138 00:05:50,066 --> 00:05:51,433 [Jennifer] I said for the caterer, correct. 139 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:52,933 For the--for the--he paid for the food. 140 00:05:53,033 --> 00:05:54,233 - The caterer. 141 00:05:54,367 --> 00:05:56,600 - [Judge Judy] He paid for the venue. - No. 142 00:05:56,667 --> 00:05:59,633 The, the venue was paid for by the groom's parents. 143 00:05:59,700 --> 00:06:02,533 Okay. So, the groom's parents paid for the venue. 144 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,834 - Uh-hmm. - [Judge Judy] Your ex-husband paid 145 00:06:04,900 --> 00:06:06,834 - for the food for a hundred people. - Okay. 146 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:09,033 And you're, you're telling me 147 00:06:09,100 --> 00:06:11,900 that your total responsibility so far 148 00:06:11,967 --> 00:06:16,133 was the $1,100 that you paid to the defendant. 149 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,667 - Yeah. - [Judge Judy] And my question 150 00:06:17,734 --> 00:06:19,400 - to you was... - That's not my entire responsibility 151 00:06:19,467 --> 00:06:22,934 - but that was the obligation... - My question--no, my question to you 152 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,734 was as part of your responsibility with the wedding planner, 153 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,266 she was going to acquire a DJ. 154 00:06:30,332 --> 00:06:34,266 - Which would need to be proved. - [Judge Judy] Stop. Just listen. 155 00:06:34,332 --> 00:06:39,300 My question is who was supposed to pay for the DJ? 156 00:06:39,367 --> 00:06:43,200 - That discussion did not take place. - [Judge Judy] Just a-- 157 00:06:43,266 --> 00:06:45,332 oh, I'm not believing you at all. 158 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,767 - I'm not believing... - Why is that? 159 00:06:46,834 --> 00:06:50,467 [Judge Judy] Why, why is that? Because this whole case revolves-- 160 00:06:50,533 --> 00:06:53,967 put your hand down. This whole case revolves around the DJ 161 00:06:54,033 --> 00:06:56,600 - and a problem that I'm just... - [Jennifer] That's correct. 162 00:06:56,667 --> 00:06:58,600 Don't tell me I'm correct. I'm always correct. 163 00:06:58,667 --> 00:07:00,834 Except when she says I'm not correct. 164 00:07:02,967 --> 00:07:04,834 You may not consider it a meeting, 165 00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:07,033 but when you bring things over to her house 166 00:07:07,100 --> 00:07:10,266 and discuss with the event planner where you want these... 167 00:07:10,333 --> 00:07:11,467 [Jennifer] That was a friend, not a meeting. 168 00:07:11,533 --> 00:07:13,433 I'm--don't, don't try to talk over me, madam. 169 00:07:18,166 --> 00:07:21,166 [theme music playing] 170 00:07:24,300 --> 00:07:27,233 [announcer] Jennifer Perry claims her former friend 171 00:07:27,300 --> 00:07:29,700 and wedding coordinator, Carla Williams, 172 00:07:29,767 --> 00:07:32,533 owes for a refund for wedding planning services. 173 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,734 Carla is countersuing for breach of contract, 174 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,667 lost wages, and defamation of character. 175 00:07:38,734 --> 00:07:41,533 [Judge Judy] Okay. So, if you were supposed to pay 176 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,933 for the DJ as part of your responsibility for this wedding, 177 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,633 as part of the wedding planning thing, 178 00:07:46,700 --> 00:07:50,867 and what happened here is that the groom's aunt, 179 00:07:50,933 --> 00:07:54,433 they said, we could get the DJ for free. 180 00:07:54,500 --> 00:07:57,533 - So, we're not going to use her DJ. - And I'm sorry... 181 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,500 [Judge Judy] That puts me in one category of my head. 182 00:08:01,567 --> 00:08:03,900 If you were supposed to pay for the DJ 183 00:08:03,967 --> 00:08:06,533 and s-- clearly, somebody is supposed to pay for the DJ 184 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,867 'cause this wedding was pretty well-planned out, Ms. Perry. 185 00:08:08,934 --> 00:08:11,333 The groom's family was paying for the venue. 186 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,367 The bride's father was paying for the caterer. 187 00:08:14,433 --> 00:08:16,533 - Yes, ma'am. - You were supposed to pay 188 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,967 - for certain decorations... - Uh-hmm. Correct. 189 00:08:19,033 --> 00:08:20,266 [Judge Judy] ...and wedding planning. In that package, 190 00:08:20,332 --> 00:08:24,332 were you also supposed to pay for the DJ is the question? 191 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,767 We were sharing responsibilities for the finance. 192 00:08:26,834 --> 00:08:29,433 - [Judge Judy] No, no, no. - So, it wasn't agreed upon. 193 00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:32,200 They didn't come to me and say, here's the DJ. 194 00:08:32,265 --> 00:08:34,799 I asked you who was supposed to pay for it? 195 00:08:34,866 --> 00:08:36,467 It-it would have been deter-- I would have been happy 196 00:08:36,533 --> 00:08:38,265 to pay for the DJ if that's who she would've collected. 197 00:08:38,332 --> 00:08:40,600 [Judge Judy] Okay. Fine. Very good. Then I'm gonna deal with this case-- 198 00:08:40,667 --> 00:08:43,500 I'm gonna deal with this case on a very simple basis. 199 00:08:43,567 --> 00:08:45,734 I'm gonna deal with it since you have no written contract 200 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,633 on a quantum meruit basis. 201 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:49,934 On what month were you hired, month and year? 202 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,233 November the 29th, 2020. 203 00:08:52,300 --> 00:08:53,934 [Judge Judy] When, according to you, 204 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,967 were you told your services were no longer necessary? 205 00:08:57,033 --> 00:08:59,667 The day of rehearsal, she told me my service was no longer available. 206 00:08:59,734 --> 00:09:01,033 - [Jennifer] That's... - [Judge Judy] No, just a second. 207 00:09:01,100 --> 00:09:04,066 - May 18th, 2021. - Can we agree on a date 208 00:09:04,133 --> 00:09:08,567 either of being fired or quitting on May 18th, 2021? 209 00:09:08,633 --> 00:09:10,166 - Yes, we can. - [Judge Judy] Great. 210 00:09:10,233 --> 00:09:13,000 Between November 29th, 2020, 211 00:09:13,066 --> 00:09:14,967 December, January, February, 212 00:09:15,033 --> 00:09:18,400 March, April, and half of May, five and a half months, 213 00:09:18,467 --> 00:09:22,567 tell me what you actually did in furtherance 214 00:09:22,633 --> 00:09:25,767 of the arrangement that you had with the plaintiff. 215 00:09:25,834 --> 00:09:28,734 I prepared pipe and draping which they ordered 216 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,433 two pipe and draping for the bride. I have pictures 217 00:09:30,500 --> 00:09:32,500 - that I can show you. - [Judge Judy] I'd like to see it. 218 00:09:32,567 --> 00:09:33,700 - Can I see? - [Jennifer] And, Your Honor, 219 00:09:33,767 --> 00:09:34,767 she did not ask the bride what she want... 220 00:09:34,834 --> 00:09:36,834 [Judge Judy] Great. Don't--just a second. Just a second. 221 00:09:36,900 --> 00:09:38,333 Don't speak. 222 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,967 I am now ruling on this case based upon how much time 223 00:09:42,033 --> 00:09:44,200 and what she actually did 224 00:09:44,266 --> 00:09:45,967 during that five and a half-month period. 225 00:09:46,033 --> 00:09:48,500 - [Jennifer] Understood, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] To absorb $1,100 226 00:09:48,567 --> 00:09:53,333 and if it fixed a reasonable hourly to her expertise, 227 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,233 I'm gonna figure out whether or not 228 00:09:55,300 --> 00:09:57,633 she is entitled to keep because I think 229 00:09:57,700 --> 00:09:59,633 that the arrangement you had with her 230 00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:02,867 was to pay substantially more than $1,100. 231 00:10:02,934 --> 00:10:05,367 But since she doesn't have that in writing anywhere, 232 00:10:05,433 --> 00:10:07,300 if she did any work, you don't get your money back. 233 00:10:07,367 --> 00:10:09,867 - You understand that? - That's not what she stated to me. 234 00:10:09,934 --> 00:10:11,800 [Judge Judy] Just a second. I don't care what she stated to you, that's 235 00:10:11,867 --> 00:10:14,400 - why you're here in court today. - Understood. Agreed. 236 00:10:14,467 --> 00:10:16,266 [Judge Judy] Very good. So you're here in court today 237 00:10:16,333 --> 00:10:18,700 to determine the worth of her work 238 00:10:18,767 --> 00:10:21,400 for five and a half months and whether or not she used up 239 00:10:21,467 --> 00:10:25,033 that $1,100 in work that she did for you. 240 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:26,867 Okay. May I see it, please? 241 00:10:34,834 --> 00:10:37,400 Okay. Was this done specifically for her wedding? 242 00:10:37,467 --> 00:10:39,165 - Her daughter's wedding. Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 243 00:10:39,233 --> 00:10:42,300 - Did you send her pictures of this? - She-she saw th-that picture 244 00:10:42,367 --> 00:10:43,233 in your hand. 245 00:10:43,300 --> 00:10:46,467 [Judge Judy] Did you discuss what they wanted either with her 246 00:10:46,533 --> 00:10:49,934 or with her daughter about what color she wanted? 247 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,100 - Did you have those conversations? - Yes, ma'am. Yes, I did. 248 00:10:52,165 --> 00:10:56,133 Are these the flower arrangements that you did for the wedding? 249 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,133 [Carla] Yes, ma'am. 250 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,667 [Judge Judy] Are these her daughter's color? 251 00:10:58,867 --> 00:10:59,734 Yes, ma'am. 252 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,300 [Judge Judy] Did you send her these pictures? 253 00:11:01,367 --> 00:11:03,700 Yes. She saw pictures. She even saw it in person. 254 00:11:03,767 --> 00:11:05,500 Tell me when she saw them personally. 255 00:11:05,567 --> 00:11:07,934 It was in uh November when we met up. 256 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,700 It was also in December 'cause I met up wit' 'em several times. 257 00:11:10,767 --> 00:11:12,867 How many times did you meet with them in December? 258 00:11:12,934 --> 00:11:15,567 - It was maybe two or three times. - [Judge Judy] Where? 259 00:11:15,633 --> 00:11:17,667 - [Carla] Um at my home. - Who was present? 260 00:11:17,734 --> 00:11:19,000 Uh Jennifer and her daughter. 261 00:11:19,100 --> 00:11:20,967 Were these made up of fresh flowers? 262 00:11:21,333 --> 00:11:24,233 [Carla] No, those were not. Those were silk flowers for the wedding. 263 00:11:24,300 --> 00:11:26,133 [Judge Judy] Silk flowers that you own 264 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,734 that you arranged in order to show her and her daughter? 265 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,433 - That's-that's correct. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 266 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:34,100 Who told you what the colors were, blue and white? 267 00:11:34,165 --> 00:11:36,333 [Carla] Jennifer and her-- uh and Alexa, her daughter. 268 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,767 [Judge Judy] Okay. So, what you do is you take 269 00:11:38,834 --> 00:11:41,734 - the color scheme of the bride. - Of the--that's correct. 270 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,900 - [Judge Judy] And create this? - That's correct. 271 00:11:43,967 --> 00:11:46,633 So these blues were bought just for this wedding? 272 00:11:46,700 --> 00:11:47,867 - [Carla] That's right. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 273 00:11:47,934 --> 00:11:49,567 How much money did they cost? 274 00:11:49,633 --> 00:11:51,000 With that big bundle there, 275 00:11:51,066 --> 00:11:53,767 that was about $400 because flowers are-- 276 00:11:53,834 --> 00:11:56,165 - silk flowers are very expensive. - Who paid for those? 277 00:11:56,233 --> 00:11:58,533 - I did. - Did the plaintiff reimburse you 278 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:59,467 for those? 279 00:11:59,533 --> 00:12:00,467 [Carla] No, ma'am. They belong to me. 280 00:12:00,533 --> 00:12:04,734 [Judge Judy] But these were purchased in this box for her wedding? 281 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,667 - [Carla] That's correct. - Ma'am, that's not true. 282 00:12:06,734 --> 00:12:09,533 I actually had provided Carla with the flowers 283 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,400 that I had purchased for Alexa's wedding. 284 00:12:11,467 --> 00:12:13,834 That is not for Alexa's event exclusively. 285 00:12:13,900 --> 00:12:16,400 [Carla] Th-the flowers that Jennifer bought for her daughter, 286 00:12:16,467 --> 00:12:18,400 you know, those wooden-- the flowers they're wooden, 287 00:12:18,467 --> 00:12:20,200 they were on a skinny stem and they really--they really... 288 00:12:20,266 --> 00:12:22,800 - It's what the bride wanted. - [Judge Judy] Don't speak. 289 00:12:22,867 --> 00:12:25,233 And they're very, very sk-- uh small, they're wood. 290 00:12:25,300 --> 00:12:27,500 Those are the flowers that Jennifer provided and when I saw 291 00:12:27,567 --> 00:12:30,700 those flowers, I said, "Jennifer, these are not going to work. 292 00:12:30,767 --> 00:12:33,165 If we're gonna use these flowers, we're gonna have to add 293 00:12:33,233 --> 00:12:36,533 some of the flowers that I have because if we want it to look full, 294 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,767 those little s-flowers are not going to look appropriate." 295 00:12:39,834 --> 00:12:42,433 [Judge Judy] Did you return those to the plaintiff? 296 00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:45,133 - The ones that she brought the... - Yes, she picked those up. 297 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,300 - Yes, ma'am. - Okay. 298 00:12:47,367 --> 00:12:49,900 Careful with me, very careful. 299 00:12:49,967 --> 00:12:52,133 Did you give to the defendant 300 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,500 a certain number of flowers that you purchased? 301 00:12:56,567 --> 00:12:59,066 - Yes, ma'am. - Did she return them to you? 302 00:12:59,133 --> 00:13:01,467 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] You didn't purchase 303 00:13:01,533 --> 00:13:03,667 - any of these flowers. - [Jennifer] That's correct. 304 00:13:03,734 --> 00:13:05,233 - That is not what... - [Judge Judy] Don't speak. 305 00:13:05,300 --> 00:13:07,166 - The answer is no. - No. 306 00:13:07,233 --> 00:13:08,433 [Judge Judy] Next question, 307 00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:11,500 who did the flowers for your daughter's wedding? 308 00:13:11,567 --> 00:13:13,166 - I did. - [Judge Judy] Personally? 309 00:13:13,233 --> 00:13:15,233 - Personally. - So, you did the arrangements 310 00:13:15,300 --> 00:13:17,033 - for your daughter's wedding? - Yes, ma'am. 311 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:18,667 [Judge Judy] I'd like to see a picture of it. 312 00:13:18,734 --> 00:13:20,967 - Okay. - Of the flower arrangements. 313 00:13:21,033 --> 00:13:22,667 - [Jennifer] Okay. - [Sarah] If it makes a difference 314 00:13:22,734 --> 00:13:25,233 for your judgment for how much she gets paid by the hour, 315 00:13:25,300 --> 00:13:28,400 I know her complaint says that she's been working for 12 years. 316 00:13:28,467 --> 00:13:32,367 The LLC was incorporated in 2018. 317 00:13:32,433 --> 00:13:33,900 - [Judge Judy] Uh-hmm. - So, she must have had 318 00:13:33,967 --> 00:13:35,967 some sort of business prior to this design company. 319 00:13:36,033 --> 00:13:37,100 [Judge Judy] Uh-hmm. Uh-hmm. Right. 320 00:13:37,165 --> 00:13:39,800 [Sarah] I found the one of-- a photo of Alexa's bouquet. 321 00:13:39,867 --> 00:13:41,867 [Judge Judy] I'd like to take a look at both. 322 00:13:41,934 --> 00:13:43,033 [Sarah] Sure. 323 00:13:47,834 --> 00:13:49,600 [Judge Judy] I'm not talking about your daughter's flowers. 324 00:13:49,667 --> 00:13:51,967 I'm talking about the flowers for the table. 325 00:13:52,033 --> 00:13:54,600 Oh, I'm sorry. We were discussing bouquets. 326 00:13:54,667 --> 00:13:56,433 [Judge Judy] No. We weren't discussing bouquets. 327 00:13:56,500 --> 00:13:58,633 - Did I ever use the word bouquet? - No. 328 00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:00,133 [Judge Judy] I never used the word bouquet. 329 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,000 Here you go. Oh, sorry. 330 00:14:16,433 --> 00:14:17,433 [Judge Judy] Okay. 331 00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:21,400 So on the head table, you had a nice s-something of flowers, 332 00:14:21,467 --> 00:14:24,934 reasonable, and then you went for the tables, 333 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,100 y-you went on the cheap side. 334 00:14:26,166 --> 00:14:27,700 - No, that is what my...ma'am... - [Judge Judy] Sure. Oh, sure, you 335 00:14:27,934 --> 00:14:28,800 - did. 336 00:14:28,867 --> 00:14:30,867 - ...that is what my daughter wanted. - [Judge Judy] Sure you did. 337 00:14:30,934 --> 00:14:32,600 You went on the cheap side. Okay. I got it now. 338 00:14:32,667 --> 00:14:34,900 [Jennifer] Those were the items that my daughter had picked out. That 339 00:14:34,967 --> 00:14:37,533 - was the display that she wanted. - [Judge Judy] Yeah. Fine. Very fine. 340 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,266 The expectation of the wedding coordinator... 341 00:14:39,333 --> 00:14:41,734 Very, very good. Listen, I wanna explain something to you. 342 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:42,867 I got this whole thing. 343 00:14:42,934 --> 00:14:44,066 I got the whole thing. 344 00:14:44,133 --> 00:14:47,266 She spent a time putting together items, meeting with you. 345 00:14:47,333 --> 00:14:49,165 She met with you and your daughter. 346 00:14:49,233 --> 00:14:53,600 I would guesstimate, guesstimate at least four times, 347 00:14:53,667 --> 00:14:55,066 - probably more. - It was more than that. 348 00:14:55,133 --> 00:14:57,667 - No. It was three. Three maximum. - [Judge Judy] Probably... 349 00:14:57,734 --> 00:14:59,734 - No, that's not true. - [Jennifer] That is true. 350 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,233 - Did she come to the venue? - Yes. 351 00:15:01,300 --> 00:15:02,900 She came to the venue on February 23rd. 352 00:15:02,967 --> 00:15:05,934 [Judge Judy] Just a second. Just a second. Is that the fourth time? 353 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,800 - [Jennifer] No. - [Judge Judy] You're telling me 354 00:15:07,867 --> 00:15:10,066 that you met with her twice? Just a second. You see, 355 00:15:10,133 --> 00:15:13,400 let me tell you why I don't believe you 'cause other than the fact 356 00:15:13,467 --> 00:15:14,800 that you're getting red. 357 00:15:14,867 --> 00:15:17,400 Let me tell you why, because she met with you once on the 29th. 358 00:15:17,467 --> 00:15:19,266 - [Jennifer] No, no. - And then what you are telling me 359 00:15:19,333 --> 00:15:20,367 is she met with you once 360 00:15:20,433 --> 00:15:25,300 between November and the time she went to the venue 361 00:15:25,367 --> 00:15:30,867 when she had this kerfuffle with a DJ who was the aunt of the bridegroom. 362 00:15:30,934 --> 00:15:35,934 So, if that's what you're telling me, I'm telling you, I don't believe it. 363 00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:42,000 Did she ever tell you that she had a small budget because Alexis, 364 00:15:42,066 --> 00:15:45,033 that's her daughter's father was not contributing to the wedding? 365 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:46,533 - Yes. - Why did you tell her that? 366 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,533 - That's not true. - It was true at the time. 367 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,400 I'm gonna have to introduce you to the truth. 368 00:15:55,133 --> 00:15:58,133 [theme music playing] 369 00:16:01,867 --> 00:16:05,934 [announcer] Jennifer Perry has accused wedding coordinator Carla 370 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,934 Williams, of canceling her services three weeks before the wedding. 371 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,600 Carla claims Jennifer breached their contract and defamed her. 372 00:16:13,667 --> 00:16:16,066 Okay. So now you wanna sit back 373 00:16:16,133 --> 00:16:21,266 and think about how many times you met with Ms. Williams 374 00:16:21,333 --> 00:16:24,934 on this event after you first met with her 375 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,734 on November 29th, 2020. 376 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,700 There was no meeting on November 29th, 2020. 377 00:16:29,767 --> 00:16:31,967 - I sent her a text message... - [Judge Judy] I said, how many times 378 00:16:32,033 --> 00:16:34,734 did you meet with her 379 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,734 after November 29th, 2020? 380 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:39,934 Think about it. 381 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 - Two. - How many times did you meet 382 00:16:42,066 --> 00:16:46,200 with the plaintiff after November 29th, 2020? 383 00:16:46,266 --> 00:16:49,600 It was about eight to ten times we met eh-because we met... 384 00:16:49,667 --> 00:16:51,700 we met the ven-- at the venue three times. 385 00:16:51,767 --> 00:16:52,834 - No. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 386 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:54,467 You met at the venue three times. 387 00:16:54,533 --> 00:16:56,767 Do you remember when you went to the venue? 388 00:16:56,834 --> 00:17:00,133 Um I don't remember the exact date, but I know we went out 389 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,467 and it was in February because that was the first time 390 00:17:02,533 --> 00:17:05,266 I had to go look at the venue so that I can get an idea of what, 391 00:17:05,333 --> 00:17:06,633 what exactly that they wanted. 392 00:17:06,700 --> 00:17:07,733 Okay. So that's one. 393 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,266 We also met in March. 394 00:17:09,333 --> 00:17:10,834 Where did you meet in March? 395 00:17:10,900 --> 00:17:11,900 We-we met at the venue again. 396 00:17:11,967 --> 00:17:14,700 - [Judge Judy] Who was present? - Uh Jennifer and her daughter, 397 00:17:14,767 --> 00:17:16,333 - Alexa. We also met in April. - Where? 398 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,599 Um, well, we was in a car together 'cause we went over to Illinois. 399 00:17:20,666 --> 00:17:26,532 Um it was a company that was selling a lot of the uh supplies that 400 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:28,467 uh the coordinators or banquet owners have. 401 00:17:28,532 --> 00:17:31,066 So, I mentioned it to Jennifer that we can go over there 402 00:17:31,133 --> 00:17:32,867 and look at a couple items for the wedding. 403 00:17:32,934 --> 00:17:35,800 So we were all three in the car together in Jennifer's c-car. 404 00:17:35,867 --> 00:17:37,834 Okay. And how long did you spend there? 405 00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:39,934 Uh we was there for about an hour. 406 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,734 You have any recollection of that, madam? 407 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:42,867 - I do. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 408 00:17:42,934 --> 00:17:43,867 When else did you meet? 409 00:17:43,967 --> 00:17:45,700 And then we also met um at the rehearsal. 410 00:17:45,867 --> 00:17:48,400 Okay. And she never came to your house, 411 00:17:48,467 --> 00:17:50,400 so she looked at these pictures via... 412 00:17:50,467 --> 00:17:52,000 - [Carla] No. - She looked at these... 413 00:17:52,066 --> 00:17:54,133 [Carla] J-Jennifer had been to my house several times. So... 414 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,266 - As friends. - [Judge Judy] Just...don't speak. 415 00:17:56,333 --> 00:17:59,500 'Cause I don't...what I'm telling you is I don't believe your story 416 00:17:59,567 --> 00:18:01,467 that you met twice, do you understand? 417 00:18:01,533 --> 00:18:02,467 I do. 418 00:18:02,533 --> 00:18:04,533 [Judge Judy] I didn't believe it when you said it 419 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,767 and now, I'm positive that you met more than twice. 420 00:18:06,834 --> 00:18:08,667 - Okay. - [Judge Judy] After the road trip, 421 00:18:08,734 --> 00:18:11,934 was the only other time that you met at the rehearsal dinner, 422 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,266 - that you met? - No, we met several times 423 00:18:14,333 --> 00:18:16,834 'cause Jenni-- brough-- Jennifer brought some items to my home 424 00:18:17,834 --> 00:18:21,000 um that she uh wanted at her daughter's reception which was items 425 00:18:21,066 --> 00:18:24,066 that she wanted to be put on the grass because the wedding ceremony 426 00:18:24,133 --> 00:18:26,000 - was outside. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 427 00:18:26,066 --> 00:18:28,834 So, how many times did she bring items to your home? 428 00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:29,900 She came four times. 429 00:18:29,967 --> 00:18:31,734 Does any of that sound familiar to you? 430 00:18:31,867 --> 00:18:34,667 - Yes. - Very good. Your claim is dismissed 431 00:18:34,734 --> 00:18:36,367 - for your $1,100. - [Jennifer] Ma'am, can I... 432 00:18:36,433 --> 00:18:37,734 - No, your claim... - [Jennifer] No. 433 00:18:37,834 --> 00:18:38,734 [Jennifer] I would like to speak. 434 00:18:38,867 --> 00:18:40,533 Your claim is... your claim is absolutely... 435 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,266 Well, I wasn't allowed to interrupt. I'd like to present my side of the 436 00:18:43,333 --> 00:18:45,367 case. She's saying hearsay. I have facts. 437 00:18:45,433 --> 00:18:49,367 On November 28th is the date that we went over to the venue. 438 00:18:49,433 --> 00:18:52,000 I actually told her about the sale. 439 00:18:52,066 --> 00:18:54,967 - Provided it to her. - [Judge Judy] So, just a second. 440 00:18:55,033 --> 00:18:58,066 I don't care. You have no case. 441 00:18:58,133 --> 00:19:00,533 I don't believe that you met with her twice. 442 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,533 You may not consider it a meeting... 443 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,467 - [Carla] Uh-hmm. - ...but when you bring things over 444 00:19:04,533 --> 00:19:07,467 to her house and discuss with the event planner 445 00:19:07,533 --> 00:19:09,600 - where you want these... - That was a friend, not a meeting. 446 00:19:09,667 --> 00:19:11,600 [Judge Judy] And don't, don't try to talk over me, madam. 447 00:19:11,667 --> 00:19:13,867 You had a limited responsibility. 448 00:19:13,934 --> 00:19:17,266 You had someone who trusted you with whom you were friendly with, 449 00:19:17,333 --> 00:19:19,400 - who had no contract with you. - [Carla] Uh-hmm. 450 00:19:19,467 --> 00:19:22,400 And you paid her a de minimis amount of money. 451 00:19:22,467 --> 00:19:27,000 So I didn't believe that based upon all of this that you only met with 452 00:19:27,066 --> 00:19:29,734 her as according to you, two times. Is that what she said? 453 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,066 - Yes. - Two times. 454 00:19:31,133 --> 00:19:34,700 But then when we go back to what you did, in fact, take her 455 00:19:34,767 --> 00:19:36,800 time. She went...don't speak. 456 00:19:36,867 --> 00:19:38,266 She went with you. 457 00:19:38,333 --> 00:19:40,934 I don't care if you went with your daughter. It's your wedding. 458 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,200 - [Jennifer] She needed a ride. - She...don't speak. 459 00:19:43,266 --> 00:19:44,333 I don't care who drove. 460 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,400 She went with you in her capacity as a wedding planner 461 00:19:49,467 --> 00:19:51,600 to look at items for the venue. 462 00:19:51,667 --> 00:19:53,700 You may not consider that work, 463 00:19:53,767 --> 00:19:55,667 but that's work. That's what she does for a living. 464 00:19:55,734 --> 00:19:56,900 But she has (indistinct) in Victoria. 465 00:19:56,967 --> 00:19:58,767 [Judge Judy] Do not speak, just listen. 466 00:19:58,934 --> 00:20:01,867 So, since I don't have a written contract. 467 00:20:01,934 --> 00:20:02,800 [Carla] Uh-hmm. 468 00:20:02,867 --> 00:20:04,066 [Judge Judy] And since I don't believe 469 00:20:04,133 --> 00:20:05,934 - that you met only twice. - Correct. 470 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,533 [Judge Judy] I am paying her by way of quantum meruit 471 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,533 because I believe that she met with you closer to 10 times. 472 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,066 - Uh-hmm. Correct. - [Judge Judy] Not two. 473 00:20:15,133 --> 00:20:16,934 - Not two. She...I... - I have evidence of the times 474 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,467 - that we met. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. I'm 475 00:20:18,533 --> 00:20:21,967 speaking. You don't remember a lot until your recollection is refreshed. 476 00:20:22,033 --> 00:20:23,467 - Wow. - [Judge Judy] Now, we're gonna get 477 00:20:23,533 --> 00:20:24,834 - to the counterclaim. - She's trash. 478 00:20:24,900 --> 00:20:27,000 She's got a counterclaim. Don't move yourself. 479 00:20:27,066 --> 00:20:30,233 Just listen. Her counterclaim is money owed 480 00:20:30,300 --> 00:20:32,266 for breaching the agreement. Forget it. 481 00:20:32,333 --> 00:20:33,934 - Next time, put it in writing. - Okay. 482 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,734 [Judge Judy] Lost wages and defamation. 483 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,700 So, what I'm gonna hear is the defamation part of your case. 484 00:20:38,767 --> 00:20:40,734 - Correct. - If you want a contract, 485 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,667 you're a businessperson, put it in writing. 486 00:20:42,734 --> 00:20:44,133 - Do you understand? - Yes, ma'am. 487 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,600 Great. Now, let's hear about the defamation. 488 00:20:46,667 --> 00:20:48,667 Okay. After Jennifer fired me, she went on to... 489 00:20:48,734 --> 00:20:50,734 [Judge Judy] After you no longer work together. 490 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,600 - We worked...yes. - I didn't get to...I don't need to 491 00:20:53,667 --> 00:20:56,934 know whether you quit or whether she fired you as a result of this 'cause 492 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,000 That actually matters. 493 00:20:58,066 --> 00:21:02,800 Whether you fire her or she quit, it doesn't make a difference. 494 00:21:02,867 --> 00:21:04,900 - She was the one... - [Judge Judy] Don't speak. 495 00:21:04,967 --> 00:21:06,800 I'm done with your case. 496 00:21:06,867 --> 00:21:11,033 Now, I'm gonna find out whether or not you defamed her. 497 00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:15,233 Now, I would just like to see w-what it is that you claim 498 00:21:15,300 --> 00:21:18,934 she said about you publicly to defame you. 499 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,734 - [Carla] Yes. - [Judge Judy] Let me see it. 500 00:21:30,133 --> 00:21:32,767 She posted, "Never do business here. 501 00:21:32,834 --> 00:21:35,000 I've been friends with her, helped her with an event, 502 00:21:35,066 --> 00:21:37,800 helped her prepare a baby shower. That's just unfortunate. 503 00:21:37,867 --> 00:21:41,200 But I am bearing the financial loss with three weeks until the wedding." 504 00:21:41,266 --> 00:21:42,333 - She posted that? - Yes. 505 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,500 [Judge Judy] It's not defamatory. Anything else? 506 00:21:44,567 --> 00:21:47,133 She's also on Instagram telling people don't use my business. 507 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,266 - She's false. She don't... - [Judge Judy] She's allowed... 508 00:21:49,333 --> 00:21:50,967 just a second. She's allowed to do that. 509 00:21:51,033 --> 00:21:52,667 - That's her opinion. - [Carla] Uh-hmm. 510 00:21:52,734 --> 00:21:56,100 Did she ever tell you in the initial conversation that she had, 511 00:21:56,166 --> 00:21:58,266 which is something that you put in your complaint? 512 00:21:58,333 --> 00:22:00,066 This is just a point of interest for me. Did she 513 00:22:00,133 --> 00:22:04,133 ever tell you that she had a... when she called you in November 514 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,000 of 2020 that she had a small budget because Alexis, 515 00:22:08,066 --> 00:22:11,066 that's her daughter's father, was not contributing to the wedding? 516 00:22:11,133 --> 00:22:12,000 Yes. 517 00:22:12,066 --> 00:22:13,333 [Judge Judy] Did you ever tell her that? 518 00:22:13,467 --> 00:22:14,867 - I did. - Why did you tell her that? 519 00:22:14,934 --> 00:22:17,066 - That's not true. - It was true at the time. 520 00:22:17,133 --> 00:22:19,233 - You don't have... - [Jennifer] I have one more daughter 521 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:21,367 You don't have a case... you don't have a case for defamation. 522 00:22:21,433 --> 00:22:23,066 I'm gonna have to introduce you to the truth. 523 00:22:23,133 --> 00:22:25,133 - It will be a nice first meeting. - I have the truth, ma'am. 524 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,734 Thank you very much. We're done here. 525 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,633 [Kevin] Court is adjourned. 526 00:22:28,700 --> 00:22:31,834 Unfortunately, she lied, but she was more believable. 527 00:22:31,900 --> 00:22:34,467 I was trying to be a good friend and give her a family discount. 528 00:22:34,533 --> 00:22:37,133 She told me that she would just give me back my money. 529 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,600 I've been truthful with her. 530 00:22:38,667 --> 00:22:41,533 I been, you know, there to help for whatever way she needed, 531 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,667 but this would happen, so. 532 00:22:42,734 --> 00:22:45,533 It's very upsetting to lose a friendship of over 20 years, 533 00:22:45,633 --> 00:22:46,600 but, it happens. 534 00:22:46,734 --> 00:22:49,600 It's a terrible situation because it could have went a better way 535 00:22:49,667 --> 00:22:53,066 but, you know, she chose it this way so this is what happens. 536 00:22:54,066 --> 00:22:56,266 [Sarah] That defendant seemed pretty professional, 537 00:22:56,333 --> 00:22:58,934 despite the fact that she didn't have a written contract 538 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,066 in this instance for her business. 539 00:23:01,133 --> 00:23:04,000 But otherwise, she seemed to have all her ducks in a row. 540 00:23:04,066 --> 00:23:06,133 She had all her evidence laid out. 541 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,800 She knew what she had done for the plaintiffs and their wedding. 542 00:23:08,867 --> 00:23:13,033 You go back to it's so much easier if you have a written contract. 543 00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:15,834 If you outline what your basic agreement is, 544 00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:18,066 - especially the cost. - [Sarah] Uh-hmm. 545 00:23:18,133 --> 00:23:20,500 And what is going to be part of that, 546 00:23:20,567 --> 00:23:23,400 you're protected. It really helps everybody. 547 00:23:23,467 --> 00:23:27,266 So, if you take away anything from this is, if you're in a business, 548 00:23:27,333 --> 00:23:31,266 whether it be friend, relative, neighbor, 549 00:23:31,333 --> 00:23:34,900 if you have something that has a cost involved to it, 550 00:23:34,967 --> 00:23:37,333 put it in writing. Anyway, this a good case. 551 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,000 - [Sarah] Yeah. - And you should keep that card 552 00:23:39,066 --> 00:23:41,600 in case you need her. She sounds like a very reasonable wedding planner. 553 00:23:41,667 --> 00:23:42,667 I might. 554 00:23:43,667 --> 00:23:44,800 [announcer] Want justice? 555 00:23:44,867 --> 00:23:47,066 Go to JudyJustice.tv. 556 00:23:52,166 --> 00:23:55,166 [theme music playing]