1 00:00:00,133 --> 00:00:02,367 What did you go into her room for? 2 00:00:02,433 --> 00:00:03,633 To have a conversation. 3 00:00:03,700 --> 00:00:05,600 When she pushed through, she started attacking me. 4 00:00:06,867 --> 00:00:08,132 How many times did she hit you? 5 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,133 I would say around 10 to 15 times. 6 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,367 You went in there angry. 7 00:00:11,433 --> 00:00:14,533 I was in her face. However, I never laid my hands on her. 8 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,467 You know how I believe that? Zero. 9 00:00:17,533 --> 00:00:18,834 Zero. 10 00:00:18,900 --> 00:00:21,600 [narrator] This is Judy Justice. 11 00:00:39,066 --> 00:00:41,633 [narrator] Previously, on Judy Justice... 12 00:00:41,700 --> 00:00:43,133 And tell me what happened. 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,500 So, on August 7th, I came home, 14 00:00:46,567 --> 00:00:50,133 and whenever I opened the door, she's there standing there. 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,600 And she got aggressive, and she grabbed my hair, 16 00:00:52,667 --> 00:00:55,667 and she pulled me from the laundry room to the kitchen. 17 00:00:55,734 --> 00:00:57,934 And you ask her on the 7th to move out. 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,233 -Yes, after that. Yes, Your Honor. -[Judy] Yes. 19 00:01:00,300 --> 00:01:02,100 I don't know what your lawsuit is about. 20 00:01:02,166 --> 00:01:04,300 Is it about damaged property? 21 00:01:04,367 --> 00:01:05,500 Yes. Yes, Your Honor. 22 00:01:05,567 --> 00:01:07,734 -What property? -My house. When she-- 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,433 [Judy] Just a second. She didn't damage your whole house. 24 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:14,233 You talk about taking out the window screen. Did you take out the screen? 25 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:16,500 -I did. -In order to smoke weed? 26 00:01:16,567 --> 00:01:17,800 No. 27 00:01:17,867 --> 00:01:19,667 What was the reason you remove it? Because you-- 28 00:01:19,734 --> 00:01:21,233 Don't speak to her. 29 00:01:22,367 --> 00:01:24,166 [narrator] And now, the conclusion. 30 00:01:24,233 --> 00:01:28,633 Ofelia Gutierrez is suing her former tenant, 31 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:33,734 Ashley Chavez, for property damage and breaching their rental agreement. 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:39,166 Do you have a bill, if it required fixing, to fix this screen? 33 00:01:39,233 --> 00:01:41,567 -Yeah. -[Judy] I'll take a look at it. 34 00:01:42,633 --> 00:01:45,500 It's on this. It should be on this quote. 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:58,200 Return this to her. I don't have time to be annoyed with this. 36 00:01:58,265 --> 00:02:01,767 Take a line and show me with a pen 37 00:02:01,834 --> 00:02:05,433 something about replacing a screen or fixing a window, 38 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:07,400 if it had to be fixed. 39 00:02:18,466 --> 00:02:22,966 Madam, did you just circle "owner supplied lavatory faucet pop-up"? 40 00:02:23,033 --> 00:02:25,000 This has to do with a bathroom. 41 00:02:25,066 --> 00:02:27,433 Well, that's what the company gave me, Your Honor. 42 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:29,667 They put everything in writing and gave me a quote. 43 00:02:29,734 --> 00:02:32,567 If they put everything, there should be something here about a screen. 44 00:02:32,633 --> 00:02:35,266 What you circled had to do with a toilet. 45 00:02:35,333 --> 00:02:39,567 Okay, arson. Is the arson that you're talking about 46 00:02:39,633 --> 00:02:42,533 the alleged fire that started in the bathroom? 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,600 No, ma'am. The one when she take out the window screen. 48 00:02:46,667 --> 00:02:48,633 [Judy] Okay, well, tell me about that fire. 49 00:02:48,700 --> 00:02:51,500 I noticed one of my daughters, she told me, "I smell something burnt." 50 00:02:51,567 --> 00:02:52,767 She text me. 51 00:02:52,834 --> 00:02:56,300 So, I went upstairs to check. I knocked on her door. 52 00:02:56,367 --> 00:02:58,800 And there was smoke coming out of the door. 53 00:02:58,867 --> 00:03:01,567 I keep knocking. She doesn't want to open it. 54 00:03:01,633 --> 00:03:04,200 And I'm like, "Is everything okay? Something is burning." 55 00:03:04,266 --> 00:03:07,900 When she opened it, there was a lot of smoke in the room. 56 00:03:07,967 --> 00:03:09,967 And I'm like, "What are you guys doing?" 57 00:03:10,033 --> 00:03:14,333 She's like, "Oh, I leave a plate by accident next to a candle." 58 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,100 I'm like, "This is too much smoke." So, my alarm went off. 59 00:03:19,166 --> 00:03:22,066 And she told me that it was a paper plate. 60 00:03:22,133 --> 00:03:23,700 What were you burning in the room? 61 00:03:23,767 --> 00:03:27,133 I wasn't burning anything. So pretty much what I had was a candle. 62 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,800 And then, there was, it wasn't a paper plate, 63 00:03:29,867 --> 00:03:32,466 it was Styrofoam, right? And I guess it got too close 64 00:03:32,533 --> 00:03:36,500 and it burnt up, I'm not too sure. But it was not enough 65 00:03:36,567 --> 00:03:38,834 to cause any smoke or anything like that. 66 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:42,066 As a result of that clear accident, 67 00:03:42,133 --> 00:03:45,433 did any part of your room suffer any damage? 68 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:48,966 Only the window, not on my room. The window that's part of the-- 69 00:03:49,033 --> 00:03:51,200 [Judy] The window... the screen. 70 00:03:51,266 --> 00:03:54,767 Okay. Well, I don't have an invoice for the screen. 71 00:03:54,834 --> 00:03:57,133 All right, well, we're finished with your claim. 72 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,734 Unless you want to talk about... what unpaid utility bill? 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,266 We have an agreement, verbal agreement when she move in 74 00:04:03,333 --> 00:04:06,333 that she's gonna stay only for a few months, the max. 75 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,567 And if she's planning to stay more, she will have to help with the bills. 76 00:04:10,633 --> 00:04:13,467 And obviously, I make it clear after a month, 77 00:04:13,533 --> 00:04:16,466 when I noticed that she was bringing her boyfriend over 78 00:04:16,533 --> 00:04:20,500 and they were using 24/7 my laundry room, and the electricity. 79 00:04:20,567 --> 00:04:23,000 I work all day, my kids go to school all day... 80 00:04:23,066 --> 00:04:25,834 Don't go off on tributaries. You're telling me 81 00:04:25,900 --> 00:04:28,967 that she used more utilities after a couple of months, 82 00:04:29,033 --> 00:04:30,767 and she didn't pay any extra. 83 00:04:30,834 --> 00:04:31,900 Yes, Your Honor. 84 00:04:31,967 --> 00:04:34,800 -Did she give you any money for utilities? -No. 85 00:04:34,867 --> 00:04:37,300 [Judy] Do you remember having a conversation about utilities? 86 00:04:37,367 --> 00:04:39,734 We never had any conversation about utilities. 87 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,500 Did you have a conversation with her about how much specifically, 88 00:04:43,567 --> 00:04:49,367 in dollars, she was supposed to give you in addition to $400 in rent for utilities? 89 00:04:49,433 --> 00:04:52,633 I told her that we can split it maybe a quarter, 90 00:04:52,700 --> 00:04:56,100 because you know, we're probably 300 a month. 91 00:04:56,166 --> 00:04:57,533 But she didn't say anything. 92 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,500 [Judy] So, you had no contract with her. 93 00:04:59,567 --> 00:05:01,000 We don't have no contract-- 94 00:05:01,066 --> 00:05:03,367 [Judy] No, you didn't have a contract, even a verbal one. 95 00:05:03,433 --> 00:05:05,266 You said, I want this. She didn't answer you. 96 00:05:05,333 --> 00:05:07,433 -That's not a contract. -Yeah. 97 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:09,467 [Judy] And you continued to take her rent 98 00:05:09,533 --> 00:05:11,433 for the next three months, of $400. 99 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:14,800 Because she keeps telling me that she's looking for a place. 100 00:05:14,867 --> 00:05:17,233 Okay, good. She did unlawfully evict you. 101 00:05:17,300 --> 00:05:18,567 Yes, ma'am, she did. 102 00:05:18,633 --> 00:05:21,367 No, you left by yourself. 103 00:05:21,433 --> 00:05:23,133 [Judy] Don't, don't talk to her, madam. 104 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,667 I read what you gave me. I read the conversation 105 00:05:26,734 --> 00:05:29,367 that caused your daughter to come into the room 106 00:05:29,433 --> 00:05:33,066 and to have a confrontation with her because she didn't like the way 107 00:05:33,133 --> 00:05:35,900 she was talking to your mother in text messages. 108 00:05:35,967 --> 00:05:37,867 -Isn't that right? -Yes, Your Honor. 109 00:05:37,933 --> 00:05:39,400 [Jacob] Your Honor? 110 00:05:39,467 --> 00:05:41,066 We also have video evidence. 111 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,967 And you also told her she had to be out in the text the next day. 112 00:05:47,033 --> 00:05:49,567 She kept saying, I'm paid 'til the 13th. 113 00:05:49,633 --> 00:05:53,467 You said, you gotta be out today. That's an unlawful eviction. 114 00:05:53,533 --> 00:05:57,133 Your Honor, I'd like to interrupt and say that a peace officer did call her, 115 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,200 and she said she would no longer be staying there. 116 00:05:59,266 --> 00:06:01,867 [Judy] That's okay. Her landlord told her 117 00:06:01,934 --> 00:06:04,367 she had to be out by the next morning. 118 00:06:05,300 --> 00:06:07,433 Now, you wanted to say something? 119 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:10,400 Yes, we have video evidence right after the assault. 120 00:06:10,467 --> 00:06:12,600 And um, she also has-- 121 00:06:12,667 --> 00:06:15,467 I haven't heard about an assault yet. I'm getting to it. 122 00:06:15,533 --> 00:06:16,734 Yes, ma'am. 123 00:06:19,133 --> 00:06:22,900 They kept trying to get in my room while I had it locked after the attack-- 124 00:06:22,967 --> 00:06:24,600 Why did you go into her room? 125 00:06:24,667 --> 00:06:26,767 Because I was also retaliating against her. 126 00:06:26,834 --> 00:06:29,467 -[Judy] Did you put your hands on her? -Yes, Your Honor. 127 00:06:29,533 --> 00:06:30,800 Now I'll see your video. 128 00:06:30,867 --> 00:06:32,233 [narrator] And later today... 129 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:35,033 After the fight, I got shot a couple of months later. 130 00:06:35,100 --> 00:06:38,500 When had you borrowed the money from her? After or before that? 131 00:06:38,567 --> 00:06:40,767 The second money was after I got shot. 132 00:06:40,834 --> 00:06:43,367 How much money did you put on her card? 133 00:06:44,567 --> 00:06:47,033 How much money did he put on your card? 134 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,100 [narrator] Ofelia Gutierrez claims her former tenant, 135 00:06:59,166 --> 00:07:03,633 Ashley Chavez, damaged the bedroom and bathroom she was renting. 136 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:08,734 Ashley is countersuing for damages after Ofelia's daughters assaulted her. 137 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,700 Now, you said that just prior to your leaving, 138 00:07:11,767 --> 00:07:14,533 you had a confrontation with one of her daughters. 139 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:15,600 [Ashley] Yes, ma'am. 140 00:07:15,667 --> 00:07:17,133 [Judy] Is that the assault you're talking about? 141 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,033 -Yes, ma'am. -[Judy] Want to tell me what happened? 142 00:07:19,100 --> 00:07:23,300 So, pretty much, she knocked on my door like I said three times. 143 00:07:23,367 --> 00:07:25,300 That's when I finally opened the door. 144 00:07:25,367 --> 00:07:28,700 And then, she started just arguing with me about the messages. 145 00:07:28,767 --> 00:07:30,800 -Just telling me like, "Oh--" -Stand up. 146 00:07:30,867 --> 00:07:35,133 So, pretty much, I just, I was like, "I'm not gonna argue with you." 147 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,300 What did you go into her room for? 148 00:07:37,367 --> 00:07:38,633 To have a conversation. 149 00:07:38,700 --> 00:07:40,633 -[Judy] You went in to talk to her. -Yes, ma'am. 150 00:07:40,700 --> 00:07:41,734 [Judy] About what? 151 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,332 About what she was telling my mother. 152 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,033 About a conversation you didn't approve of that she was having with your mother. 153 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:48,100 Yes, Your Honor. 154 00:07:48,166 --> 00:07:50,400 And you were annoyed about the tone of these messages 155 00:07:50,467 --> 00:07:51,933 back and forth with your mother. 156 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,000 -They were aggravating your mother. -Yes, Your Honor. 157 00:07:54,066 --> 00:07:55,767 [Judy] That's all the reason you went in there. 158 00:07:55,834 --> 00:07:57,734 -You went in there angry. -Yes, Your Honor. 159 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,934 Okay. You want to tell me if you put your hands on her? 160 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,100 She kicked me first. 161 00:08:02,166 --> 00:08:03,600 [Judy] What did you do? 162 00:08:03,667 --> 00:08:06,233 I retaliated because she put her hands on me first. 163 00:08:06,300 --> 00:08:08,500 -How? -Physically. 164 00:08:08,567 --> 00:08:11,166 [Judy] Physically, how did she put her hands on you first? 165 00:08:11,233 --> 00:08:13,100 -She kicked me. -[Judy] Where? 166 00:08:13,166 --> 00:08:15,800 -In the stomach. -Make me a verbal picture 167 00:08:15,867 --> 00:08:18,600 how it came about that she kicked you in the stomach. 168 00:08:18,667 --> 00:08:22,867 Because I was in her face. However, I never laid my hands on her. 169 00:08:22,934 --> 00:08:25,400 [Judy] What do you mean, you were in her face? 170 00:08:25,467 --> 00:08:27,233 Was she sitting or standing? 171 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:28,567 Standing. 172 00:08:28,633 --> 00:08:30,200 When you got into her face, 173 00:08:30,266 --> 00:08:33,567 I want your mother to turn around to look at you. Turn around. 174 00:08:34,700 --> 00:08:37,567 All the way around, look at each other. You're in her face. 175 00:08:37,633 --> 00:08:42,834 Now, I want you to show me your interpretation of being in your face. 176 00:08:42,900 --> 00:08:44,133 I'd say this is quite accurate 177 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,467 because it's physically how close I was to her. 178 00:08:46,533 --> 00:08:47,967 [Judy] And what were you saying? 179 00:08:48,033 --> 00:08:49,200 Why would you say that? 180 00:08:49,266 --> 00:08:53,300 Yeah, turn around. You know how I believe that? Zero. 181 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,700 Zero. 182 00:08:56,433 --> 00:08:58,467 And then, what did you do to her? 183 00:08:58,533 --> 00:09:01,367 She kicked me first because I was in her face. 184 00:09:01,433 --> 00:09:03,066 And what did you do to her? 185 00:09:03,133 --> 00:09:04,333 Retaliated. 186 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,400 [Judy] How? 187 00:09:05,467 --> 00:09:06,567 Using my fists. 188 00:09:06,633 --> 00:09:07,834 [Judy] What did you do? 189 00:09:07,900 --> 00:09:09,900 -[Martina] Punched her. -[Judy] How many times? 190 00:09:09,967 --> 00:09:12,233 I'm unsure, but it was around ten seconds. 191 00:09:12,300 --> 00:09:14,300 How many times did she hit you? 192 00:09:14,367 --> 00:09:17,567 Um, so, can I just explain how it happened? 193 00:09:17,633 --> 00:09:20,800 Okay, so, pretty much, she kept arguing with me. 194 00:09:20,867 --> 00:09:23,333 So, I wasn't gonna argue back. I closed the door. 195 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,600 And that's when she pushed through. And once she pushed through, 196 00:09:26,667 --> 00:09:29,433 she was already in my room, and she started attacking me. 197 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:31,900 She pushed me on the bed, and that's when I kicked her, 198 00:09:31,967 --> 00:09:35,266 because I was already being attacked, pretty much. I was just defending myself. 199 00:09:35,333 --> 00:09:39,066 She also started punching me, I would say around 10 to 15 times. 200 00:09:39,133 --> 00:09:41,133 Her sister also jumped in. 201 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,433 I was trying to fight both of them at the same time 202 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:46,500 while I'm being pinned down on the bed. 203 00:09:46,567 --> 00:09:49,867 And then, after the attack, they left their phones in the room. 204 00:09:49,934 --> 00:09:51,934 And I told them I was gonna call the cops. 205 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,165 And they kept trying to get in my room while I already had it locked 206 00:09:55,233 --> 00:09:57,800 -after the attacks. -[Judy] Why did you go into her room? 207 00:09:57,867 --> 00:10:00,033 Because I was also retaliating against her. 208 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:03,066 [Judy] When you got into the room, you went in after your sister? 209 00:10:03,133 --> 00:10:05,633 -Yes, Your Honor. -[Judy] Did you put your hands on her? 210 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:06,767 Yes, Your Honor. 211 00:10:06,834 --> 00:10:07,934 Now you can sit. 212 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:10,500 Now you can sit. 213 00:10:12,767 --> 00:10:14,200 Now I'll see your video. 214 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,900 [Ashley speaking] 215 00:10:26,633 --> 00:10:28,033 [Martina speaking] 216 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:29,700 [Ashley speaking] 217 00:10:29,767 --> 00:10:31,667 -[Martina speaking] -[Ashley speaking] 218 00:10:31,734 --> 00:10:33,400 -[Martina speaking] -[Ashley speaking] 219 00:10:41,633 --> 00:10:42,533 [Martina speaking] 220 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,734 [Ashley speaking] 221 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,033 [Martina speaking] 222 00:10:48,100 --> 00:10:50,300 [Ashley speaking] 223 00:10:50,367 --> 00:10:51,834 [Martina speaking] 224 00:10:51,900 --> 00:10:54,367 [Ashley speaking] 225 00:10:57,533 --> 00:10:59,633 -[Martina speaking] -[Ashley speaking] 226 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,233 Were you trying to get in the door while she was holding it closed? 227 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:08,633 Yes, ma'am. 228 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:11,700 [chuckles dryly] 229 00:11:11,767 --> 00:11:14,066 I don't know if you caught it, but when she said, 230 00:11:14,133 --> 00:11:17,967 "You already put your hands on me, stay out," they said, "Exactly." 231 00:11:18,033 --> 00:11:20,533 So, admitting that they put their hands on her. 232 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,066 -Thank you. -Mm-hmm. 233 00:11:23,767 --> 00:11:26,066 Were you treated at all for your injuries? 234 00:11:26,133 --> 00:11:27,200 Um, no. 235 00:11:27,266 --> 00:11:29,567 [Judy] Did you take any photographs of your injuries? 236 00:11:29,633 --> 00:11:32,300 The cops did, but I wasn't able to retrieve them. 237 00:11:32,367 --> 00:11:37,700 On the original claim which seeks $6,496 for property damage, 238 00:11:37,767 --> 00:11:41,165 arson, breach of an agreement and unpaid utility bills, 239 00:11:41,233 --> 00:11:43,734 that case is dismissed in its entirety. 240 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,834 On the counterclaim, which seeks $914.57 241 00:11:48,900 --> 00:11:51,667 for an unlawful eviction, a lot of other things, 242 00:11:51,734 --> 00:11:55,066 but in addition to the unlawful eviction to an assault, 243 00:11:55,133 --> 00:12:00,800 I actually think that figure that she fixed is low of $914.50, 244 00:12:00,867 --> 00:12:04,433 but she's fixed the figure, and that's what I'm awarding her. 245 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:09,333 On the counterclaim, $914.50. We are finished, step out. 246 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,967 [Kevin] This court is adjourned. 247 00:12:14,533 --> 00:12:16,700 She was not following the rules at home. 248 00:12:16,767 --> 00:12:19,433 And she caused damages, that's the main thing. 249 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:22,600 Honestly, I was trying to wait it out until I could sign a lease legally. 250 00:12:22,667 --> 00:12:26,333 So, obviously, I don't want to cause any trouble for the person that was, 251 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,400 I guess, in my thought process, trying to help me out. 252 00:12:29,467 --> 00:12:30,834 But I guess I was wrong. 253 00:12:30,900 --> 00:12:34,266 We were just trying to help this kid, but everything goes wrong. 254 00:12:34,333 --> 00:12:35,900 I'm happy I'm out of that place. 255 00:12:35,967 --> 00:12:37,967 I thought they helped me out, but they definitely didn't. 256 00:12:38,033 --> 00:12:39,867 They made it a lot harder for me. 257 00:12:41,667 --> 00:12:45,500 I think a key takeaway from that case is control. 258 00:12:45,567 --> 00:12:48,300 And if you want to maintain control of your home 259 00:12:48,367 --> 00:12:52,033 and things that happen inside your home, you can be an altruistic person 260 00:12:52,100 --> 00:12:55,734 and want to help out a young person who's getting back on their feet, 261 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,266 then you let them stay in your home for free. 262 00:12:58,333 --> 00:13:02,100 And that allows you to retain a portion of control. 263 00:13:02,166 --> 00:13:06,600 But once you start charging rent, then landlord-tenant laws start to apply. 264 00:13:06,667 --> 00:13:09,166 You can't decide, I want you out by Saturday, 265 00:13:09,233 --> 00:13:11,367 or I want you out by tomorrow morning. 266 00:13:11,433 --> 00:13:14,467 The second you start taking money from somebody, you lose control. 267 00:13:14,533 --> 00:13:18,000 Because now they have rights. And if you get fed up with them, 268 00:13:18,066 --> 00:13:20,867 and you know, house guests stays longer than they're supposed to, 269 00:13:20,934 --> 00:13:23,300 you can ask them to leave, that's well within your right. 270 00:13:23,367 --> 00:13:26,033 But once you start accepting money, then laws start to apply, 271 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:28,400 and you lose control to make decisions about your own home. 272 00:13:28,467 --> 00:13:30,066 So, something to keep in mind. 273 00:13:31,533 --> 00:13:35,734 Case 4113, McGill vs. Taylor. All parties, please come forward. 274 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,700 [narrator] Sharonea McGill is suing her former friend, 275 00:13:39,767 --> 00:13:44,900 Adrian Taylor, for unpaid loans and unauthorized credit card charges. 276 00:13:44,967 --> 00:13:48,834 Mr. Taylor, I'm gonna start with you, sir, because this is... 277 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:52,600 I hope, a relatively easy case. How do you know Miss McGill? 278 00:13:52,667 --> 00:13:58,633 I met Miss Sharonea probably like the year 2021, around October. 279 00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:03,667 We met on Facebook. And I guess how our relationship started, 280 00:14:03,734 --> 00:14:07,033 it was like trouble bonding. 'Cause I just got out of a break-up 281 00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:10,934 and she got out of a break-up, and we were real close friends. 282 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,333 And I say, like, moving forward, like 2022, 283 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,333 we got close, and we stayed friends and everything. 284 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,367 When you say you got close, did you ever meet? 285 00:14:23,433 --> 00:14:26,433 You know, you met on Facebook. Did you ever meet in person? 286 00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:28,700 -Yeah, we met in person. -[Judy] When? 287 00:14:28,767 --> 00:14:32,667 We met in person at the park. Like I said, we all been best friends. 288 00:14:32,734 --> 00:14:35,900 She was there for me. Like, I went through a break-up. 289 00:14:35,967 --> 00:14:38,800 And she was really like, mentally helping me with that, 290 00:14:38,867 --> 00:14:42,033 -or whatever. -All right, so you met on Facebook. 291 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:43,300 -Right. -[Judy] Okay. 292 00:14:45,900 --> 00:14:50,567 Sarah, you have who he fought in April 2023? 293 00:14:50,633 --> 00:14:53,533 -I do. -And what would that person's name be? 294 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,433 Cashton Young. You won. 295 00:14:55,500 --> 00:14:58,767 [Judy] It's all there. It's what happens with the Internet, sir. 296 00:14:58,834 --> 00:15:00,834 -That sound familiar? -Yes. 297 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,967 So, the 2024, you were mistaken. 298 00:15:04,033 --> 00:15:05,600 Duh. 299 00:15:15,433 --> 00:15:19,333 [narrator] Sharonea McGill claims her former friend, 300 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,700 Adrian Taylor, is responsible for multiple loans 301 00:15:22,767 --> 00:15:25,667 and unauthorized credit card charges. 302 00:15:25,734 --> 00:15:27,834 There came a time when you needed some money. 303 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:29,567 -Okay, so, the time-- -[Judy] So-- 304 00:15:29,633 --> 00:15:31,367 -Ma'am? -[Judy] That would be a yes. 305 00:15:31,433 --> 00:15:33,834 -Yes, yes, right. -[Judy] You needed some money. 306 00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:35,433 What did you need money for? 307 00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:39,100 The money part came in 2022. 308 00:15:39,165 --> 00:15:41,633 Maybe back in February or something. 309 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:44,133 I was behind on some bills. 310 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,767 And I asked her, "Hey, Sharonea, can you loan me this, 311 00:15:47,834 --> 00:15:51,934 and I'll pay you back after I win my fight in, uh, June?" 312 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,300 June or July, something like that. She said, "Okay, cool." 313 00:15:56,367 --> 00:15:57,533 So, then, I had-- 314 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,600 [Judy] So, how much did she loan you? 315 00:15:59,667 --> 00:16:03,500 She loaned me that time, I want to say maybe four or five hundred. 316 00:16:03,567 --> 00:16:05,133 So, I paid her back. 317 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,834 -Mnh-mnh. -[Judy] Okay. 318 00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:08,700 -Mm-mm. -[Judy] Don't say anything. 319 00:16:08,767 --> 00:16:10,533 But you paid her back that money. 320 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:11,834 I paid her back the money-- 321 00:16:11,900 --> 00:16:14,467 Okay. You paid her back that money, that's great. 322 00:16:14,533 --> 00:16:16,934 But then, you borrowed additional money from her. 323 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,300 Right. 324 00:16:18,367 --> 00:16:20,633 [Judy] When did you borrow additional money from her? 325 00:16:20,700 --> 00:16:25,033 So, the second part, when I borrowed additional money was 326 00:16:25,100 --> 00:16:27,633 after the fight, I got shot a couple of months later. 327 00:16:27,700 --> 00:16:29,266 Month and year. 328 00:16:29,333 --> 00:16:35,333 I got shot October the 16th, to be exact, of 2022. 329 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:40,165 When had you borrowed the money from her? After or before that? 330 00:16:40,233 --> 00:16:42,600 The second money was after I got shot. 331 00:16:42,667 --> 00:16:48,333 Okay. And tell me, how much money did she loan you after you got shot? 332 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,033 So, when she gave me the card, it had zero balance. 333 00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:55,734 She added me as a person on the card. It had zero balance on it. 334 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,433 She didn't have anything on it. 335 00:16:57,500 --> 00:16:59,066 [Judy] She gave you a credit card. 336 00:16:59,133 --> 00:17:00,667 She gave me a credit card, yes, ma'am. 337 00:17:00,734 --> 00:17:05,567 So, in 2022, how much money did you put on this credit card? 338 00:17:05,633 --> 00:17:10,133 Um, to be exact, I know for sure. It was a thousand for the card. 339 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:15,532 I know a thousand for my rent. And I know it was like a few other, 340 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:17,967 maybe like gas or something like that. 341 00:17:18,032 --> 00:17:21,200 And I was using it that way. And then, after that, 342 00:17:21,266 --> 00:17:23,867 she said, "Bro, I need my card back." 343 00:17:23,934 --> 00:17:27,165 "Bro, you spend too much, bro." So, I ended up giving the card back. 344 00:17:27,233 --> 00:17:29,233 [Judy] When did you give it back? 345 00:17:29,300 --> 00:17:31,700 She came and got it back 'cause I wasn't able to walk. 346 00:17:31,767 --> 00:17:36,233 Not in two thousand-- I wasn't able to walk 'til 2022. 347 00:17:36,300 --> 00:17:39,800 Until 2023. So, she came and got the card from my house. 348 00:17:39,867 --> 00:17:43,266 And, um, I ended up returning back to work. 349 00:17:43,333 --> 00:17:47,367 Uh, 2024, was my comeback fight. 350 00:17:47,433 --> 00:17:48,834 And I ended up losing that fight. 351 00:17:48,900 --> 00:17:51,633 How much money did you put on her card? 352 00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:54,300 How much money did he put on your card? 353 00:17:54,367 --> 00:17:55,767 It was about four thousand. 354 00:17:55,834 --> 00:17:58,633 I don't do "about." How much money did he put on your card? 355 00:17:58,700 --> 00:18:03,734 [Sharonea] $3,947.75. 356 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,767 Okay. Now, you do fights, is that right? 357 00:18:06,834 --> 00:18:07,967 What kind of fights? 358 00:18:08,033 --> 00:18:09,433 I box for a living. 359 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:11,700 [Judy] And you box under what name? 360 00:18:11,767 --> 00:18:14,200 -Montu. -Sarah, take a look. 361 00:18:14,266 --> 00:18:18,200 I want you to look up Adrian Taylor. 362 00:18:18,266 --> 00:18:20,834 -Boxer. -Mm-hmm. 363 00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:24,700 Did you box in April of 2023? 364 00:18:24,767 --> 00:18:26,900 I believe... I believe so. 365 00:18:26,967 --> 00:18:29,600 [Judy] Well, that's not 2024, right? 366 00:18:29,667 --> 00:18:32,767 Am I correct? He said he went back in 2024? 367 00:18:32,834 --> 00:18:34,900 That's when he had a fight? 368 00:18:34,967 --> 00:18:38,767 He said, "I end up returning back to work 2024 with my comeback fight." 369 00:18:38,834 --> 00:18:42,100 Okay. Now, let's go back a little before that. 370 00:18:42,166 --> 00:18:44,400 April 2023. 371 00:18:44,467 --> 00:18:49,600 Sarah, you have who he fought in April 2023? 372 00:18:49,667 --> 00:18:50,734 I do. 373 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,667 And what would that person's name be? 374 00:18:52,734 --> 00:18:55,166 Cashton Young. You won. 375 00:18:55,233 --> 00:18:58,567 On April 13th, 2023. 376 00:18:58,633 --> 00:19:00,867 It's all there, sir. 377 00:19:00,934 --> 00:19:05,700 You want to tell him the next time he fought and won in 2023? 378 00:19:05,767 --> 00:19:07,734 That's what happens with the Internet, sir. 379 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,467 Well, he lost on April 27th to Pryce Taylor. 380 00:19:11,533 --> 00:19:15,200 And then, on May 18th, he won against Donte White. 381 00:19:15,266 --> 00:19:17,467 -[Judy] That sound familiar? -Yes. 382 00:19:17,533 --> 00:19:20,233 So, the 2024, you were mistaken? 383 00:19:22,066 --> 00:19:23,333 Duh. 384 00:19:24,867 --> 00:19:27,400 The 2024, you were mistaken. 385 00:19:27,467 --> 00:19:31,333 You went back to work in 2023, and you won. 386 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,133 You won again in June. That sound familiar to you? 387 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,500 [Adrian] Yes. 388 00:19:36,567 --> 00:19:41,333 So, Mr. Taylor, if which is your defense was, 389 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,500 "Yes, I did tell her I would pay off this card, 390 00:19:44,567 --> 00:19:46,367 which had a zero balance, 391 00:19:46,433 --> 00:19:49,834 but I told her I would pay her back with my next fight." 392 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:54,300 'Cause I read this. I said well, that's a long time to be shot, 393 00:19:54,367 --> 00:19:57,934 then go back to work. But you did in fact go back to work 394 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,967 in 2023, fought many times and won several. 395 00:20:03,033 --> 00:20:04,967 So, why didn't you pay her back? 396 00:20:05,033 --> 00:20:07,200 The, okay, the... 397 00:20:07,266 --> 00:20:09,000 the real... [sighs] 398 00:20:09,066 --> 00:20:11,500 My real intentions... I mean, I was... 399 00:20:11,567 --> 00:20:15,300 Yes, I was supposed to had paid back. I reneged on my word. 400 00:20:15,367 --> 00:20:18,900 Good, very good. Like it. You want to stop there? 401 00:20:18,967 --> 00:20:20,467 Yeah. 402 00:20:20,533 --> 00:20:24,200 Judgment for the plaintiff in the amount of $3,947. 403 00:20:24,266 --> 00:20:25,800 See how easy that was? 404 00:20:25,867 --> 00:20:28,066 [Kevin] This court is adjourned. 405 00:20:30,767 --> 00:20:33,834 He just didn't want to do what he was gonna do. 406 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:36,266 And I won the case, and I'm satisfied. 407 00:20:36,333 --> 00:20:40,800 I mean, I understand, you know. I did renege on my word, so, I'm cool with it. 408 00:20:40,867 --> 00:20:44,567 After that last payment that I let him loan. 409 00:20:44,633 --> 00:20:47,266 After that, then, it was like, yeah, no more. 410 00:20:47,333 --> 00:20:50,333 She called me every day. But I was sending what I could send. 411 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,467 Enough was enough. 412 00:20:51,533 --> 00:20:54,266 I just wish the best for her. Wish nothing but the best for her. 413 00:20:55,734 --> 00:20:58,233 I think he realized that he got caught. 414 00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:00,233 Maybe he thought his boxing matches 415 00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:03,367 were some underground, secret fight club situation. 416 00:21:03,433 --> 00:21:06,033 But they were all listed online, you could see. 417 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:09,967 Clearly, there was news articles about them, photos of him at the fights. 418 00:21:10,033 --> 00:21:13,600 So, I think he just got caught in a little bit of a lie. 419 00:21:13,667 --> 00:21:16,133 Yeah. And eventually, he just said, I reneged... 420 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,734 I reneged on my promise. 421 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,300 I reneged on my word. 422 00:21:19,367 --> 00:21:22,300 -Easy. One of the easy ones. -Yeah. 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