1 00:00:00,033 --> 00:00:03,000 You put your hands on her, she put her hands on you. 2 00:00:03,066 --> 00:00:05,133 She started saying, you're never gonna see your kid 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,300 unless you go to a court and get custody, and you do this... 4 00:00:08,367 --> 00:00:13,033 You don't fight over whether or not you can hold the baby. 5 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:14,233 If I'm being assaulted-- 6 00:00:14,300 --> 00:00:18,667 You shouldn't be assaulted over whether or not you can hold the baby! 7 00:00:18,734 --> 00:00:20,100 Dumb and dumber. 8 00:00:20,166 --> 00:00:22,800 [narrator] This is Judy Justice. 9 00:00:41,734 --> 00:00:44,500 [narrator] Previously, on Judy Justice... 10 00:00:44,567 --> 00:00:46,500 -You met in what month? -June. 11 00:00:46,567 --> 00:00:49,200 [Judy] By July, you found out she was pregnant. 12 00:00:49,266 --> 00:00:51,533 -Correct. -That's why we call it dating, 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,433 not mating. 14 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:55,934 Tell me about this alleged assault on July 21st. 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,900 She bites me. I got bit three or four times already. 16 00:00:58,967 --> 00:01:02,033 So, at that point, I'm trying to get her off of me by pushing her forehead. 17 00:01:02,100 --> 00:01:03,367 And they arrested him. 18 00:01:03,433 --> 00:01:04,367 Yes, ma'am. 19 00:01:14,367 --> 00:01:18,233 You called the police. You told them that your boyfriend had assaulted you. 20 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:21,734 That he had kidnapped your baby, and that he had guns. 21 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,934 That's the information that the police had. 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,867 -That's why we're here. -[Judy] They don't know 23 00:01:25,934 --> 00:01:28,700 if they're gonna find a soft-spoken guy who had a fight with his girlfriend 24 00:01:28,767 --> 00:01:32,934 and it got a little out of hand. Or whether they're dealing with a nut. 25 00:01:34,066 --> 00:01:36,066 [narrator] And now, the conclusion... 26 00:01:36,133 --> 00:01:39,900 Ja'Quan Madyun and Michelle Kerr-Madyun 27 00:01:39,967 --> 00:01:44,133 are suing Ja'Quan's ex-girlfriend, Yezlyn Torres, 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,433 for stolen property, false police reports, and an assault. 29 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:51,166 -Okay. So, you were taken into custody. -Correct. 30 00:01:51,233 --> 00:01:53,366 And you did, in fact, have a fight with her. 31 00:01:53,433 --> 00:01:54,467 A fight? 32 00:01:54,533 --> 00:01:56,467 Yeah, you had a fight with her. A physical fight. 33 00:01:56,533 --> 00:01:58,734 You put your hands on her, she put her hands on you. 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,967 The other way around. She put her teeth on me, 35 00:02:01,033 --> 00:02:03,433 and then I restrained her from biting me again. 36 00:02:03,500 --> 00:02:07,367 I'm not sure of whether, sir, when you said you could see the baby, 37 00:02:07,433 --> 00:02:10,667 that you didn't-- And I'm not suggesting that you hit her, 38 00:02:10,734 --> 00:02:13,433 at that point, but I am suggesting 39 00:02:13,500 --> 00:02:17,000 that you would have put your hand on her 40 00:02:17,066 --> 00:02:18,934 to try to retrieve the baby. 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,700 Let me see if you even say that in your complaint. 42 00:02:21,767 --> 00:02:23,333 Hold on a second. 43 00:02:24,700 --> 00:02:28,266 "Yezlyn and I got into a heated argument. She was holding the baby 44 00:02:28,333 --> 00:02:30,900 and I asked her if I could hold him. 45 00:02:30,966 --> 00:02:35,433 Yezlyn refused, and slapped my hand. I kept trying to reach for him, 46 00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:39,200 and she grabbed my wrist, and then kicked me in the groin 47 00:02:39,266 --> 00:02:41,200 and bit me several times. 48 00:02:41,266 --> 00:02:43,200 When I was finally able to get him..." 49 00:02:43,266 --> 00:02:47,633 So, the fighting continued. So, there's a push-pull about this baby. 50 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:50,300 I don't understand. Craziness. 51 00:02:50,367 --> 00:02:52,800 If she's acting irrationally, you shouldn't. 52 00:02:52,867 --> 00:02:53,966 I wasn't acting irrationally. 53 00:02:54,033 --> 00:02:55,400 [Judy] Yes, you were, sir. 54 00:02:55,466 --> 00:02:58,533 You were in the house, and for some reason she got a bee in her bonnet. 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,433 If according to you, she was a regular smoker of what, marijuana or cigarettes? 56 00:03:03,500 --> 00:03:04,700 Marijuana, ma'am. 57 00:03:04,767 --> 00:03:08,100 So, who knows whether or not she was under the influence-- 58 00:03:08,166 --> 00:03:10,633 Whatever it is, you extricate yourself. 59 00:03:10,700 --> 00:03:13,800 You don't fight over whether or not you can hold the baby. 60 00:03:13,867 --> 00:03:15,667 I went to the garage, ma'am. 61 00:03:15,734 --> 00:03:19,000 You don't fight over whether or not you can hold the baby. 62 00:03:19,066 --> 00:03:21,367 -Me? -[Judy] Be a grownup, you're 30. 63 00:03:21,433 --> 00:03:24,333 -Not the person who put their hands on me? -[Judy] Just a second. 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,200 You're not supposed to struggle over whether or not you can hold an infant. 65 00:03:28,266 --> 00:03:31,966 If you asked her, can I hold the baby, which is what you said in here, 66 00:03:32,033 --> 00:03:34,834 and she said no, I can understand why you're annoyed. 67 00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:38,233 You don't go over and say give me, I want to hold it-- 68 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:40,066 What kind of adult behavior is that? 69 00:03:40,133 --> 00:03:42,567 Can I see our son to put him in our room? 70 00:03:42,633 --> 00:03:44,900 Listen, this whole thing about assault is stupid. 71 00:03:44,966 --> 00:03:46,900 Were either one of you treated medically? 72 00:03:46,966 --> 00:03:49,800 -I did go to the hospital, yes... -[Judy] For what? 73 00:03:49,867 --> 00:03:52,033 For bite marks. For assault by bite, yes. 74 00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:54,533 Oh, I'd like to see the report. 75 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,000 -There's no question she bit you. -[Ja'Quan] Correct. 76 00:03:57,066 --> 00:03:59,633 She refused to get medical attention. 77 00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:02,600 There's no question that you put your hands on her. 78 00:04:02,667 --> 00:04:04,600 To get her off from biting me? 79 00:04:04,667 --> 00:04:06,734 If I'm being assaulted, I can't defend myself? 80 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,600 You shouldn't be assaulted over whether or not you can hold the baby! 81 00:04:10,667 --> 00:04:12,033 I shouldn't be assaulted. Correct. 82 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:14,467 You shouldn't be assaulted because you shouldn't be fighting over-- 83 00:04:14,533 --> 00:04:16,632 I shouldn't be assaulted for asking to hold the baby. 84 00:04:16,700 --> 00:04:17,966 You're not following me, sir. 85 00:04:18,033 --> 00:04:20,065 -You're not following me. -[Ja'Quan] I understand you. 86 00:04:20,132 --> 00:04:22,166 You made several errors in judgment. 87 00:04:22,233 --> 00:04:26,000 Your first error in judgment was having unprotected sex. 88 00:04:26,066 --> 00:04:30,033 That's the first thing, in June of 2023. 89 00:04:30,100 --> 00:04:31,900 Mistake number uno. 90 00:04:31,967 --> 00:04:34,633 I say the same thing to her! 91 00:04:34,700 --> 00:04:36,633 Dumb! Dumb and dumber. 92 00:04:36,700 --> 00:04:38,700 You're a little bit older than she is, 93 00:04:38,767 --> 00:04:41,667 but mentally, you're probably younger than she is. 94 00:04:41,734 --> 00:04:44,867 'Cause that's what happens to men, they don't grow up fast. 95 00:04:44,933 --> 00:04:48,133 They don't grow up fast, and then they grow up not at all, 96 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,867 and then, they just get old. 97 00:04:49,933 --> 00:04:51,433 I will deal with it. 98 00:05:02,266 --> 00:05:06,166 Okay. So, you went to have this looked at two days later. Is that right? 99 00:05:06,233 --> 00:05:07,967 When I was released from jail, yes. 100 00:05:08,033 --> 00:05:10,967 -Then you went-- Absolutely. -When I was released from jail, yes. 101 00:05:11,033 --> 00:05:13,400 [Judy] Absolutely, when you were released from jail, 102 00:05:13,467 --> 00:05:16,834 you went and you had your arm looked at, 103 00:05:16,900 --> 00:05:21,266 and it said, evidence of bite marks by his girlfriend two days ago. 104 00:05:21,332 --> 00:05:24,767 So, you weren't treated, sir, for anything. 105 00:05:24,834 --> 00:05:27,567 -You went there to memorialize-- -How could I be treated-- 106 00:05:27,633 --> 00:05:29,834 To memorialize your injury. 107 00:05:29,900 --> 00:05:33,467 How could I have been treated if I was just taken to the jailhouse? 108 00:05:33,533 --> 00:05:35,433 They did not even examine me. 109 00:05:35,500 --> 00:05:38,033 Let me see what this doctor did for you. 110 00:05:38,100 --> 00:05:42,367 Okay. So, they gave you an antibiotic because you were bitten. Right? 111 00:05:42,433 --> 00:05:44,533 -[Ja'Quan] Yes. -[Judy] As a precaution. 112 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,667 Okay. And did you seek medical treatment? 113 00:05:46,734 --> 00:05:47,967 No, Your Honor. 114 00:05:48,033 --> 00:05:51,567 Funny, the police examined you, sir, right after this incident, 115 00:05:51,633 --> 00:05:54,867 when you were taken into custody, before you were taken to jail. 116 00:05:54,933 --> 00:05:57,100 -Is that correct? -I'm not aware of that. 117 00:05:57,166 --> 00:05:59,834 Well, they did because you said, she bit me. 118 00:05:59,900 --> 00:06:02,734 You must have said she bit you, it's in the report. 119 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,567 It said... it's in the report. 120 00:06:04,633 --> 00:06:06,500 Did they have any pictures of those? 121 00:06:06,567 --> 00:06:09,467 They evidently didn't think it was necessary. 122 00:06:09,533 --> 00:06:11,900 Correct, exactly. But you can see in those pictures 123 00:06:11,967 --> 00:06:14,433 that I have bruising and marks up my arm. 124 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:18,467 So, they couldn't see them at the time, so no, the wouldn't have examined those-- 125 00:06:18,533 --> 00:06:21,367 They couldn't see them at the time? You mean, at the time you were-- 126 00:06:21,433 --> 00:06:23,934 -[Ja'Quan] Arrested, yes. -Don't try to talk over me. 127 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,934 -At the time of your arrest... -Sorry. You asked me a question. 128 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,066 At the time of your arrest, the police saw two marks. 129 00:06:30,133 --> 00:06:32,133 One on your hand and one on your arm. 130 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,867 The ones I told them about. 131 00:06:33,933 --> 00:06:36,200 I'm not unsympathetic with you, sir. 132 00:06:36,266 --> 00:06:38,700 -I'm trying to piece together... -Okay. 133 00:06:38,767 --> 00:06:42,300 ...the evidence of when all these bite marks-- 134 00:06:42,367 --> 00:06:45,200 -I'm trying to help. Uh-huh. -Well, you have to acknowledge this, sir. 135 00:06:45,266 --> 00:06:48,900 If at the time of the incident, the police did, in fact, observe 136 00:06:48,967 --> 00:06:52,033 a bite mark on your arm and one on your hand-- 137 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:55,000 I had to tell them where the two were. They didn't even examine me. 138 00:06:55,066 --> 00:06:58,000 I told them about the bites. The wouldn't even have looked at me. 139 00:06:58,066 --> 00:06:59,967 -They did look at you! -[Ja'Quan] They didn't. 140 00:07:00,100 --> 00:07:03,533 That's what I'm trying to tell you. I had to tell them I was bitten. 141 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,700 They did not look at me until I said, 142 00:07:05,767 --> 00:07:07,734 wasn't I supposed to be examined, too? 143 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,266 Wasn't I supposed to be examined too? Sorry. 144 00:07:10,333 --> 00:07:13,867 [Judy chuckles] This isn't happening for you, sir, 145 00:07:13,934 --> 00:07:17,066 because you think that I'm stupid, like maybe some other people 146 00:07:17,133 --> 00:07:18,900 that you deal with. I'm not stupid. 147 00:07:21,567 --> 00:07:24,600 She's saying, you're never gonna see your kid unless you go to court, 148 00:07:24,667 --> 00:07:26,600 and you get custody, and you do this and this. 149 00:07:26,667 --> 00:07:30,433 That's why you should absolutely, sir, [chuckles] 150 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:34,000 absolutely have thought before you made a baby with somebody, 151 00:07:34,066 --> 00:07:36,166 get to know 'em a little bit. 152 00:07:45,332 --> 00:07:48,700 [narrator] Ja'Quan Madyun and Michelle Kerr-Madyun 153 00:07:48,767 --> 00:07:52,233 claim Ja'Quan's ex-girlfriend Yezlyn Torres 154 00:07:52,300 --> 00:07:55,433 bit him in the arm and lied to the police. 155 00:07:55,500 --> 00:08:00,233 Yezlyn is countersuing Ja'Quan, claiming she was the one assaulted. 156 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:02,633 Now, what you just said to me was, 157 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:05,533 they wouldn't have even looked at the two marks, 158 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,600 one on my hand and one on my arm, unless I showed it to them. 159 00:08:09,667 --> 00:08:12,166 I said to you, they did, in fact, look at them. 160 00:08:12,233 --> 00:08:13,300 Correct. 161 00:08:13,367 --> 00:08:15,767 You keep insisting they wouldn't have looked at them 162 00:08:15,834 --> 00:08:17,967 unless I told them to look at them. 163 00:08:18,033 --> 00:08:19,300 They looked at them. 164 00:08:19,367 --> 00:08:21,433 -The answer is yes. -[Ja'Quan] Okay. 165 00:08:21,500 --> 00:08:23,767 [Judy] After you told them to look at them. 166 00:08:23,834 --> 00:08:24,867 Correct, okay. 167 00:08:24,934 --> 00:08:27,500 And you told them to look at two marks, 168 00:08:27,567 --> 00:08:30,300 one on your hand and one on your arm. 169 00:08:30,367 --> 00:08:32,600 Which they did and which they noted in here. 170 00:08:32,667 --> 00:08:36,332 Two days later, after you were released from jail, 171 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,265 miraculously, you had bite marks all up and down your arm. 172 00:08:40,332 --> 00:08:41,667 That's all I'm saying. 173 00:08:41,734 --> 00:08:45,000 The police noted the two marks you told them to look at. 174 00:08:45,066 --> 00:08:48,533 Two days later, you had multiple bite marks-- 175 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,567 And bruises. 176 00:08:49,633 --> 00:08:52,266 Okay, we're done here. We're done with the assault. 177 00:08:52,333 --> 00:08:56,300 -Your Honor, can we finish? -Do you have any medical records? 178 00:08:56,367 --> 00:08:59,165 I have pictures that I took. 179 00:08:59,233 --> 00:09:01,800 -Do you have any medical records? -No, Your Honor. 180 00:09:01,867 --> 00:09:04,200 [Judy] I'll take a look at your photograph. 181 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,266 [Ja'Quan] How does me saying that I was bitten twice... 182 00:09:08,333 --> 00:09:11,266 These were all taken by me on the day of the assault 183 00:09:11,333 --> 00:09:13,033 and the day following the assault. 184 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:16,834 No, sir, not bruising. You told the medical people two days later 185 00:09:16,900 --> 00:09:20,100 that you had multiple bite marks all up and down your arms. 186 00:09:20,166 --> 00:09:23,066 That's what you told them. The question is, who inflicted them, 187 00:09:23,133 --> 00:09:26,767 when you told the police two days earlier that you were bitten twice? 188 00:09:26,834 --> 00:09:29,834 -That doesn't require an answer. -Those were the two visible ones. Okay. 189 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:33,233 Okay. So, nobody was, pardon the expression, 190 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:36,066 seriously, even close, injured from this domestic spat 191 00:09:36,133 --> 00:09:38,734 over whether or not you could hold the baby. 192 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,734 Let's move on to your property, please. 193 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,367 After she moved out, you went into the house. 194 00:09:44,433 --> 00:09:47,165 Tell me what damage you're alleging she caused in the house. 195 00:09:47,233 --> 00:09:51,233 There was not damage to the home itself, uh, just trash she had left. 196 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:53,567 [Judy] Okay. So, it required cleaning up. 197 00:09:53,633 --> 00:09:54,734 Clean up, yes. 198 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,900 Okay. And what do you allege she took? 199 00:09:56,967 --> 00:10:01,633 She took all of the child's belongings from the home. 200 00:10:01,700 --> 00:10:03,633 -[Judy] Fine. -Things that I had bought. 201 00:10:03,700 --> 00:10:06,900 So what? They were not given to her, they were given to the child as gifts. 202 00:10:06,967 --> 00:10:08,867 I gifted them to my son. 203 00:10:08,934 --> 00:10:10,734 Next! 204 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,000 -What? -Next! 205 00:10:13,066 --> 00:10:16,800 A couple of my grandmother's blankets and bedding and towels. 206 00:10:17,934 --> 00:10:20,066 You have any of her bedding and towels? 207 00:10:20,133 --> 00:10:23,000 I only accidentally took a blanket. 208 00:10:23,066 --> 00:10:26,667 And I didn't even realize until Mr. Madyun had pointed it out 209 00:10:26,734 --> 00:10:28,500 that it was his grandmother's blanket. 210 00:10:28,567 --> 00:10:29,633 [Judy] Did you return it? 211 00:10:29,700 --> 00:10:30,767 -No, not-- -Why? 212 00:10:30,834 --> 00:10:33,000 -They didn't ask for it back-- -[Judy] Where is it? 213 00:10:33,066 --> 00:10:35,667 It's at the house I'm currently living in. 214 00:10:35,734 --> 00:10:39,233 I asked for things back, and she refused to return them. 215 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:41,467 She asked for my son's belongings back. 216 00:10:41,533 --> 00:10:43,233 -[Judy] She can't have those. -I know. 217 00:10:43,300 --> 00:10:45,934 Blanket. You want to wrap it up and send it back to her? 218 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,633 -You know where it goes? -Mm-hmm. 219 00:10:47,700 --> 00:10:49,767 All my legal documents with my bank information on it 220 00:10:49,834 --> 00:10:51,700 that she took out of my drawer. 221 00:10:51,767 --> 00:10:54,700 Okay. This happened back in July. 222 00:10:54,767 --> 00:10:57,867 July, August, September, October, November, December. 223 00:10:57,934 --> 00:11:00,100 Six months later. Have you replaced the documents? 224 00:11:00,166 --> 00:11:01,533 That's a yes or a no. 225 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,266 No, I haven't. They're bank documents. 226 00:11:03,333 --> 00:11:05,166 -Do you have his documents? -No, Your Honor. 227 00:11:05,233 --> 00:11:08,367 The documents he speaks of were in a little blue folder, 228 00:11:08,433 --> 00:11:11,834 and that blue folder contained my son's social security, 229 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:15,233 along with his bank information and his CalKIDs information. 230 00:11:15,300 --> 00:11:16,333 I don't have that. 231 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,900 -[Judy] Where is it? -I don't know. 232 00:11:17,967 --> 00:11:20,533 Are you able to get to that account? Did you go to the bank? 233 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,400 Did you say, I don't have my paperwork? 234 00:11:22,467 --> 00:11:24,834 If somebody, six months ago had my paperwork, 235 00:11:24,900 --> 00:11:26,367 you go to the bank and-- 236 00:11:26,433 --> 00:11:29,166 You're missing that I wasn't allowed to go into this address. 237 00:11:29,233 --> 00:11:32,834 I'm just asking you, sir, what you're alleging she has that's yours. 238 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:35,500 She said she doesn't have it. I'm asking you 239 00:11:35,567 --> 00:11:37,266 whether or not you've replaced it. 240 00:11:37,333 --> 00:11:39,567 She told police she doesn't know where it is, 241 00:11:39,633 --> 00:11:41,400 but she just described what it is. 242 00:11:41,467 --> 00:11:43,633 -...doesn't know what it is. -[Judy] Slick, listen to me. 243 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:47,066 Listen to me, I asked you a question. The question was a simple one. 244 00:11:47,133 --> 00:11:50,165 The question was, did you replace the bank documents? 245 00:11:50,233 --> 00:11:51,233 I said no. 246 00:11:51,300 --> 00:11:53,367 [Judy] I don't believe you. What's next? 247 00:11:53,433 --> 00:11:55,300 Blanket, you're getting back, your mother's blanket. 248 00:11:55,367 --> 00:11:57,000 What else do you want? 249 00:11:57,066 --> 00:11:59,533 That's it. If I can't get the things back, 250 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,367 the keepsakes that I bought to have in my grandson's room, then-- 251 00:12:03,433 --> 00:12:06,066 No, she took them. She's living someplace else. 252 00:12:06,133 --> 00:12:08,033 I suggest you not fight over that, 253 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:10,500 otherwise... you want to be able to see him. 254 00:12:10,567 --> 00:12:13,633 I'd get a paternity test if I were you, just to be on the safe side. 255 00:12:13,700 --> 00:12:15,033 I need a paternity test? 256 00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:19,200 I'm just telling you. If I had a son, and my son met a girl in June, 257 00:12:19,266 --> 00:12:22,633 and traveled cross country to meet her in June, 258 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:25,633 and it was mid-June, as a matter of fact, I think it was mid-June 259 00:12:25,700 --> 00:12:28,367 by the time you got there. Yes, mid-June. 260 00:12:28,433 --> 00:12:32,233 And two weeks later, the person who he's just met is pregnant, 261 00:12:32,300 --> 00:12:37,033 and gives birth a month early to what apparently is a full-term baby, 262 00:12:37,100 --> 00:12:41,066 almost six pounds. Would I tell my son to get a paternity test? 263 00:12:41,133 --> 00:12:44,233 You're kidding me, huh. I sure would. 264 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:50,133 In all probability, this is your baby. I assume it is. 265 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,834 But wouldn't you feel like an idiot if you went through the next 20 years 266 00:12:53,900 --> 00:12:59,266 paying support, struggling over custody, struggling over visitation. 267 00:12:59,333 --> 00:13:03,600 And then, to find out that biologically, he's not yours? 268 00:13:03,667 --> 00:13:04,934 Wouldn't you feel foolish? 269 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,166 It's what I mentioned in the first couple of moments we were in here. 270 00:13:08,233 --> 00:13:12,100 and then I said she made it seem like she was offended by that-- 271 00:13:12,166 --> 00:13:14,800 She could be offended, offended, 272 00:13:14,867 --> 00:13:16,600 -She can. -[Judy] Offended, offended. 273 00:13:16,667 --> 00:13:19,734 -But to treat someone a certain way-- -[Judy] This is not offended. 274 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,567 Are you trying to talk over me? Who do you think you are? 275 00:13:23,633 --> 00:13:25,767 I'm just a guy in a courtroom. 276 00:13:25,834 --> 00:13:28,033 This doesn't happen. Uncross your arms. 277 00:13:29,767 --> 00:13:32,800 I'm telling you, and probably your mother told you, 278 00:13:32,867 --> 00:13:34,767 I assume your mother told you. 279 00:13:34,834 --> 00:13:39,200 I'm saying, if I started being abused and started being treated a certain way 280 00:13:39,266 --> 00:13:42,867 after I said these things, I need to check to make sure he's mine. 281 00:13:42,934 --> 00:13:45,100 And she's saying, you're never gonna see your kid 282 00:13:45,165 --> 00:13:48,433 unless you go to court and you get custody and you do this and this. 283 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:51,300 She's premeditatively kept our son away from me. 284 00:13:51,367 --> 00:13:54,867 That's why you should absolutely, sir... [laughs] 285 00:13:54,934 --> 00:13:57,333 -All right. -[Judy] Absolutely have thought, 286 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,967 before you made a baby with somebody, get to know 'em a little bit. 287 00:14:01,033 --> 00:14:03,967 If what you're saying is true, she had nutty behavior. 288 00:14:04,033 --> 00:14:07,734 And if she smoked marijuana during her pregnancy, 289 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,400 which may have accounted for the baby being born early, maybe not, 290 00:14:11,467 --> 00:14:12,767 but certainly, that's dumb. 291 00:14:12,834 --> 00:14:16,200 You would say, if you smoked marijuana while pregnant, that was dumb, right? 292 00:14:16,266 --> 00:14:19,133 And you would know that's putting your baby at risk, right? 293 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,433 -Yes. -[Judy] You would know that. 294 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:24,467 That would be really stupid and not in the best interest of the child, right? 295 00:14:24,533 --> 00:14:25,800 -Right? -Yes. 296 00:14:25,867 --> 00:14:28,433 Okie doke. So, I would know all those things, sir, 297 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:31,500 before I made a baby with somebody. Do you understand? 298 00:14:31,567 --> 00:14:33,834 -Yeah, but I'm in this situation. -[Judy] Before. 299 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:35,800 -What? -Right, right, right. 300 00:14:35,867 --> 00:14:38,433 She wasn't smoking with a baby before she was pregnant. 301 00:14:38,500 --> 00:14:41,033 What are you suing him for? What do you think he owes you? 302 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:42,100 Forget the assualt. 303 00:14:44,934 --> 00:14:47,400 -I left some belongings behind. -Like what? 304 00:14:47,467 --> 00:14:50,834 I left a flat-screen TV, about 72 inches. 305 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:54,133 Where did you get the money for a 72" television set? 306 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,400 -Welfare. -Then I get the television. 307 00:14:56,467 --> 00:14:59,767 Welfare is not to buy a 72" television. What else? 308 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,467 [narrator] Ja'Quan Madyun and Michelle Kerr-Madyun 309 00:15:12,533 --> 00:15:16,667 are accusing Ja'Quan's ex-girlfriend Yezlyn Torres 310 00:15:16,734 --> 00:15:21,133 of biting Ja'Quan and stealing Michelle's keepsake blanket. 311 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,266 Yezlyn claims Ja'Quan is wrongfully keeping her property. 312 00:15:25,333 --> 00:15:26,734 Okay. Let's move on. 313 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,934 Okay, I packed as much as I could within 24 hours, and then I left. 314 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,200 And so, I left some belongings behind. 315 00:15:33,266 --> 00:15:34,300 Like what? 316 00:15:34,367 --> 00:15:37,467 I left a flat-screen TV, about 72 inches. 317 00:15:37,533 --> 00:15:39,567 [Judy] Tell me when you purchased it. 318 00:15:39,633 --> 00:15:42,633 I purchased it in March, shortly after our son was born, 319 00:15:42,700 --> 00:15:44,533 -before I left. -[Judy] In March? 320 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,000 And-- Just a second. During the time that you were living rent-free 321 00:15:49,066 --> 00:15:51,033 -at his mother's house... -Yes. 322 00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:53,467 -[Judy] ...were you collecting welfare? -[Yezlyn] Yes, Your Honor. 323 00:15:53,533 --> 00:15:55,734 [Judy] How much were you contributing to the household? 324 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,066 -I-- -[Judy] Not an "I," that's a number. 325 00:15:58,133 --> 00:16:00,400 How much were you contributing to the household? 326 00:16:00,467 --> 00:16:03,166 About $500 in bills. 327 00:16:03,233 --> 00:16:07,066 And then, I would buy the toiletries and all that. 328 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:08,867 Okay, $500 in what bills? 329 00:16:08,934 --> 00:16:13,100 I paid the light and gas, as well as the water. 330 00:16:13,166 --> 00:16:17,867 And I paid Miss Kerr, I paid her for the Internet. 331 00:16:17,934 --> 00:16:19,900 -Well, the Internet, you were using. -[Yezlyn] Yes. 332 00:16:19,967 --> 00:16:22,367 You were there using it by yourself. 333 00:16:22,433 --> 00:16:24,567 -Yes, Your Honor. -Right? Uncross your arms. 334 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:28,867 When you were living with him when you were pregnant, 335 00:16:28,934 --> 00:16:31,333 what expenses did you pay for? 336 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,800 Careful, you're gonna have to prove it to me. 337 00:16:33,867 --> 00:16:37,533 What expenses did you pay for when you were living with him? 338 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,100 When we were living together, neither one of us 339 00:16:40,165 --> 00:16:42,000 were paying bills or anything, we would just-- 340 00:16:42,066 --> 00:16:44,567 -So, the answer is-- -She can't speak for me. 341 00:16:44,633 --> 00:16:47,633 Just a second. It's his mother. What were you paying for? 342 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:50,133 -I was buying whatever. Toilet paper... -[Judy] You could. 343 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,300 And where did you get the money for a 72" television set? 344 00:16:53,367 --> 00:16:54,400 Welfare. 345 00:16:54,467 --> 00:16:55,900 -[Judy] From welfare? -Yes, Your Honor. 346 00:16:55,967 --> 00:16:58,233 -Then I get the television. -[Ja'Quan laughs] 347 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:00,934 [Judy] Welfare is not to buy a 72" TV. 348 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,233 Welfare is to pay for rent, light, food. 349 00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:08,133 It's not to buy a 72" television. What else? 350 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,800 What else? Seventy-two inch television, forget it. 351 00:17:10,867 --> 00:17:12,934 He's filed false police reports-- 352 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,567 [Judy] All right, I'm finished with the two of you. 353 00:17:15,633 --> 00:17:17,700 What part of uncross your arms don't you understand? 354 00:17:17,767 --> 00:17:18,967 It's my comfortable stance. 355 00:17:19,032 --> 00:17:21,900 [Judy] I don't care. My job is to keep you uncomfortable. 356 00:17:21,967 --> 00:17:24,934 Are you due back in court at any other time with her? 357 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,100 Yes, we have a contempt of court hearing the 20th of this month. 358 00:17:29,166 --> 00:17:31,500 Contempt of court against whom? 359 00:17:31,567 --> 00:17:33,667 The mother for denying my visits. 360 00:17:33,734 --> 00:17:36,600 [Judy] Well, let me suggest this to you, Miss Torres, 361 00:17:36,667 --> 00:17:41,533 you make a baby with somebody, do not think that you are the sole parent. 362 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,834 -Mm-hmm. -Thank you. 363 00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:46,700 I'm not going to suggest to you what's gonna happen, 364 00:17:46,767 --> 00:17:49,700 but certainly, he can get a copy of this tape. 365 00:17:49,767 --> 00:17:53,066 And certainly, if I were the judge hearing that custody case, 366 00:17:53,133 --> 00:17:55,133 I'd make you have a drug test. 367 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,000 -Yes. -[Judy] Regularly. 368 00:17:57,066 --> 00:17:59,133 Like randomly, three times a week. 369 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,367 Because if you couldn't stop smoking marijuana while you were pregnant, 370 00:18:02,433 --> 00:18:04,567 -chances are you still are. -I'm not. 371 00:18:04,633 --> 00:18:06,700 [Judy] Great, I'm glad to hear it. 372 00:18:06,767 --> 00:18:09,900 But you no longer have control over whether or not 373 00:18:09,967 --> 00:18:12,066 the child has interaction with his father. 374 00:18:12,133 --> 00:18:14,300 Can I give input on what he's saying? 375 00:18:14,367 --> 00:18:17,066 Because the instance that he's talking about... 376 00:18:17,133 --> 00:18:18,734 I only denied his visits twice. 377 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,834 One time I was in court, so that's why that visit didn't happen. 378 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:24,467 The second time, he came to our current home 379 00:18:24,533 --> 00:18:27,633 where me and the child are staying, and told my Uber to leave. 380 00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:31,000 I was going to drop him off at the court ordered location 381 00:18:31,066 --> 00:18:34,266 and he told my Uber to leave, causing problems at my home. 382 00:18:34,333 --> 00:18:36,900 So then, he called the police and did the report. 383 00:18:36,967 --> 00:18:40,800 What you probably have to do is set up a pick up and return place 384 00:18:40,867 --> 00:18:42,233 at a local police precinct. 385 00:18:42,300 --> 00:18:44,300 [Yezlyn] I tried that. The judge denied it. 386 00:18:44,367 --> 00:18:46,033 -Why? -I did a ex parte. 387 00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:48,834 And she said that she didn't find cause for emergency, 388 00:18:48,900 --> 00:18:50,700 so we have to wait till there... 389 00:18:50,767 --> 00:18:53,300 You mean he hasn't seen his child in how long? 390 00:18:53,367 --> 00:18:55,400 He sees him every other day. 391 00:18:55,467 --> 00:18:59,834 Oh, okay, fine. When you go back, you may want to both ask the court, 392 00:18:59,900 --> 00:19:03,734 so that he feels comfortable, to order a DNA test. 393 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,633 I'm not gonna get into anything else. 394 00:19:05,700 --> 00:19:08,233 You can tell the judge at that contempt hearing 395 00:19:08,300 --> 00:19:11,867 everything you want to tell them, sir. So, it's your contempt hearing 396 00:19:11,934 --> 00:19:17,133 against her for failing to adhere to the temporary order of visitation. 397 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,633 -Correct. -All things otherwise have been settled. 398 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:20,700 No. 399 00:19:20,767 --> 00:19:23,367 No. So, you have an ongoing custody case. 400 00:19:23,433 --> 00:19:24,400 Correct. 401 00:19:24,467 --> 00:19:26,433 This is part of the ongoing custody case? 402 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:28,033 This was included, yes. 403 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:30,000 There has been no final order? 404 00:19:30,066 --> 00:19:31,066 No. 405 00:19:31,133 --> 00:19:35,467 Okay. Within 72 hours, you pack up his mother's blanket 406 00:19:35,533 --> 00:19:37,633 -and return it to her. Do you understand? -[Yezlyn] Yes. 407 00:19:37,700 --> 00:19:39,300 -In good condition. -Yes, Your Honor. 408 00:19:39,367 --> 00:19:42,700 Same way that you had it. Anything else that she has 409 00:19:42,767 --> 00:19:44,467 that belongs to your mother? 410 00:19:44,533 --> 00:19:45,667 No. 411 00:19:45,734 --> 00:19:47,533 Thank you very much. We're finished. 412 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,834 -[Kevin] This court is adjourned. -Thank you, Judge Judy. 413 00:19:54,867 --> 00:19:58,900 I think I should've at least won something for the abuse I endured 414 00:19:58,967 --> 00:20:03,000 and the belongings that I left behind. But she has the final say, so. 415 00:20:03,066 --> 00:20:06,367 She said I should not have been assaulted for asking to hold our child. 416 00:20:06,433 --> 00:20:07,867 That's what I take from that. 417 00:20:07,934 --> 00:20:09,166 He's definitely the father. 418 00:20:09,233 --> 00:20:11,967 I guess we'll have to find out. I'm pretty sure I'm the father. 419 00:20:12,033 --> 00:20:15,233 But the way she's acting, there's probably another dummy out there. 420 00:20:15,300 --> 00:20:19,233 Unless it's about pick up or drop off, or an emergency regarding our child, 421 00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:22,033 I want no communication. And he gets upset about that. 422 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:24,834 I'm ready to be a dad. I'm ready to take care of my child 423 00:20:24,900 --> 00:20:27,800 and do what I need. But bitter baby mama's getting in the way 424 00:20:27,867 --> 00:20:31,633 and making that impossible to happen. Make sure you get to know your baby mama. 425 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:37,333 I liked your explanation in court, because I could tell that the plaintiffs, 426 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,633 the mother and himself, couldn't understand why 427 00:20:39,700 --> 00:20:42,834 so many police officers showed up in the manner that they did. 428 00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:45,800 I think your explanation was great, as in, you have to look at it 429 00:20:45,867 --> 00:20:48,867 from the eyes of the police. This is the information they were given. 430 00:20:48,934 --> 00:20:50,467 Not accepting that as true, 431 00:20:50,533 --> 00:20:52,934 but this is what they believed they were walking into. So-- 432 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,900 They could've been walking into. 433 00:20:54,967 --> 00:20:58,200 And a lot of the information was corroborated. They found guns. 434 00:20:58,266 --> 00:21:01,533 He said he was on the phone with them disclosing their location. 435 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,667 If you don't know, as a police officer, what you're walking into, 436 00:21:04,734 --> 00:21:06,834 better safe than sorry, in some ways. 437 00:21:06,900 --> 00:21:09,667 And so, I liked the-- I think they understood, 438 00:21:09,734 --> 00:21:12,633 after you explained that. But I think in the moment, 439 00:21:12,700 --> 00:21:14,900 it can be very heated. You could tell 440 00:21:14,967 --> 00:21:16,867 she was very nervous taking the video. 441 00:21:16,934 --> 00:21:18,533 -[Judy] And angry. -And angry. Rightfully so, 442 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,367 if you're in that position, I understand the anger and nervousness 443 00:21:22,433 --> 00:21:24,600 if 15 police officers show up to your house. 444 00:21:24,667 --> 00:21:27,400 Again, you have to think about it from their perspective 445 00:21:27,467 --> 00:21:30,367 that this is what they've been told by someone you interact with 446 00:21:30,433 --> 00:21:33,200 and have a child with. So, I think they got it. 447 00:21:33,266 --> 00:21:36,266 When playing house, which is what they were doing, 448 00:21:36,333 --> 00:21:38,500 becomes a blood sport... 449 00:21:39,767 --> 00:21:42,734 the only one that gets hurt is the baby. 450 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,900 And you know, Sarah, I've been preaching this for years, 451 00:21:46,967 --> 00:21:51,667 you don't have a baby until you are physically, financially, 452 00:21:51,734 --> 00:21:56,633 and emotionally ready to take on the responsibility of another human being. 453 00:21:56,700 --> 00:21:59,567 You don't do it by accident. 454 00:21:59,633 --> 00:22:03,600 And if you're 30 and 22, 455 00:22:03,667 --> 00:22:07,500 -you know how to prevent getting pregnant. -Mm-hmm. 456 00:22:07,567 --> 00:22:12,800 It just seems to me so monumentally unfair 457 00:22:12,867 --> 00:22:14,166 to an infant. 458 00:22:14,233 --> 00:22:16,567 First he's in California, then he goes to Florida. 459 00:22:16,633 --> 00:22:19,734 Now he's back in California, where he's gotta stay. 460 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,533 -She doesn't have anybody in California. -Mm-hmm. 461 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,166 Just ridiculous. You can ruin three lives 462 00:22:25,233 --> 00:22:27,900 just because you're operating with the wrong organ. 463 00:22:27,967 --> 00:22:30,667 -You should be operating with your brain. -Mm-hmm. 464 00:22:32,266 --> 00:22:34,467 [narrator] Are you a victim of a scam? 465 00:22:34,533 --> 00:22:36,100 Go to JudyJustice.tv. 466 00:22:41,567 --> 00:22:44,200 [theme music playing]